The funny thing about Dollars & Cents is that Colin's bass part is in a minor scale throughout the song, so Ed's part makes it constantly resolve and unresolve between a major and minor contradiction. Same thing happens during the Airbag intro. Ed's 3 note line (E-D-C#-D-C#) is in A major, while Jonny's low E string riff fluctuates between major and minor, and ultimately resolves. This tension is what makes their interplay so interesting.
As a drummer who can tell he has a distinct style but can't really explain it, if you made "How to play like Phil Selway" I would literally die and go to heaven!
What is brilliant about Ed beyond his mad skills, is his harmonic backing vocals that lay the road for Thom’s slippery vocals. Oh, and he’s brilliant at sewing the fabric of seeming chaos that blooms into the beauty that is in every composition. Hats off to you for nailing these sounds. Great video....just getting in the ballpark would have been revealing.
Interesting. I'm pretty sure Ed doesn't sing harmonies on the albums. The harmonies always sound like Thom overdubbing to me. And we all know how fond of overdubbing vocals Thom is. I'm pretty sure Ed just does those live because Thom can't sing two things at once.
Matthew Martinez it’s a cool idea! Someone mentioned something similar with stringing together the three individual guitarist lessons I’ve done to make a song in the style. I’ll think about it 🤔
Great video! Ed is definitely an underrated member of the band. No doubt he adds to the band’s definitive sounds, but he gets easily overshadowed by the other two guitarists’ fame.
A friend referred me to this guy and I've watched several videos. How the hell does this artist not have exponentially more subscribers and views? Seriously great stuff without gimmicks. I am at a loss.
Great job breaking down how Ed makes such a beautiful background for the rest of the band to play in! He really is key to the Radiohead sound, and adds so much, thanks!
With all the knowledge and power you have, you might not be a famous artist or in a famous band in your lifetime but you better raise your kids to be the new and improved thom yorke.
I love Ed's playing on How To Disappear Completely. He has the mix on his reverb all the way up so there's no dry signal, which took me years to recreate. The only pedal I could find that does that is the Mooer Shimverb, though I'm sure he uses something else
I'm a big Ed fan. I have his Fender Stratocaster *signature* guitar (altho there is no signature!). Great guitar, with a Fernandes Sustainer at the neck, Texas Special in middle, and a SD JB Jr. at the bridge. Lots of fun!
Twas a great Manhattan show in February. I remember waiting an hour to an hour and a half after the show to meet him too. Massive guy. Talented guitarist.
My wife bought me EOB’s sustainer strat last Xmas. It really let me venture out, and get lost in the music again. I use it with a Helix floor, it’s amazing what I can get out of the two
@@JoeEdelmann3 that's wild! that sound always drove me nuts cuz i had no idea what Ed was using to get that modulation. I assumed maybe it was a combination of his Lovetone pedals he was using during the Amnesiac sessions. Wow. Do the artifacts only occur with the Whammy 4 or are they also present on the newest version?
@@JoeEdelmann3 yeah i had a feeling the Whammy 4 was gonna do this sound better. Thanks for the info. I have a PS-6 with an expression pedal. I wonder if it has this mode that alternates between major and minor.
On the original album I believe he’s using samples of an instrument called an Autoharp! And putting it through a whole mess of delay and pitch effects. When Burne Holiday covered the song we used a looper to make a short sample of the notes of the G#m chord, then used a Whammy to shift it around and some delays to make it more warbly.
Hi Joe, question. Does the Ditto looper let you repitch the Ful Stop loops? ie play them an octave up/down when played back at double/half speed, like Ed does with the DL4 looper?
James Duffy hi James! Yes, sorry if It wasn’t clear, but that’s what I’m doing in this example (with the Double speed function specifically). There is a Double and a Half speed mode in the FX section. You cant continuously manipulate the pitch to other speeds though.
James Duffy oh, it does still repitch with those FX though! If you see when I record the loop it technically is an octave below where I end up triggering it... I also have a Whammy engaged with an octave harmony that may be making it hard to hear.
@@JoeEdelmann3 holy cow, you're right, I didn't notice you played it an octave lower to start. I was focusing too much on the knob fiddling. thanks for the clarification! (and I was being dumb anyway, because you didn't change the tempo while playing with the pedal, just reversed it.)
could you give us a general idea of how much such a wonderful pedalboard setting would hurt our wallets? also, could you share your opinions on VSTs plugins that simulate pedals and amp presets digitally?
vh ks it depends on whether you go for the actual effect brand names or close substitutes, but Ed’s main classics (Memory Man and Whammy for example) go for around $200 each. Still, you could almost certainly imitate the philosophy of the effects chain with a set of cheaper pedals. Ed has also used cheaper pedals as well, like the Mooer E Lady (electric mistress flanger clone) which is just $80 and sounds fantastic! I don’t use a lot of pedal and amp VSTs, but I have occasionally used those built into Logic Pro X and they’re pretty solid! I like the Bass Amp Simulators Ampeg model, the Guitar Amp’s AC30 style, and for their Pedals I think the GRIT (RAT clone) and Candy Fuzz are fantastic. They even have a whammy imitation!
This was wonderful! Thank you!! Quick question: Does Ed use his sustainer guitar to pull off the intro to some live versions of National Anthem? Particularly the one in this video: th-cam.com/video/hTzRliW3iFs/w-d-xo.html (not his finest moment but it's a good example of what I'm inquiring about)
Richard Long indeed he does! The Ebow and the sustainer pickup work on very similar principles, but the pickup helps free up both hands! (Notice how he gets to use the whammy bar there) You do have to sometimes give the string a little bit of a play/press to start the sustain though.
Thank you Joe! I’m fascinated. I appreciate all of your work very much. It is obvious that great care goes into your craft. You’re exactly the kind of fan Radiohead deserves.
These are really great videos. I really relate in a lot of ways to what you're doing here. When Ok Computer came out I was about 16, and only a couple years into playing guitar. Pretty quickly I taught myself every guitar part and a lot of the keyboard/rhodes parts and I used to set up all my pedals, press play on the CD player and play along from beginning to end. One technique I've always been really curious about is that iconic Ok Computer trem delay, used mostly in Ed's part of the Airbag solo (Where Jonny's part of the solo seems clearly delay free and possibly with a slide involved) and I think Jonny in the Airbag breakdown at the end, and also in Ed's part in Exit Music. I know it's basically a delay used while plucking trem style, but I've never been able to work out a solid version of it. Are multiple delays being used to achieve the sound? What speed of delay time is used, how much delay feedback, and how does the speed of the picking correlate to the delay time? It seems the feedback is low or the delay time is fairly quick since you don't really hear lag repeats when they change notes, slide up or down to a note, etc. I'd love to see a video on this if you've managed to figure it out, or just your thoughts in a comment.
I think you’re right that in those cases Ed and/or Jonny are typically using shorter delay times and less repeats, just to thicken up the tremolo picking without distracting from the melody! Ed definitely uses multiple delays a lot on other occasions though, to make ambient pad sounds all you need are two delays at maybe 75% ratio to each other so the repeats kind of bounce off each other in least common multiples and eventually sound like one blur with the feedback. I’m definitely planning to make more videos on these and other topics though!
A guitar tutorial video with over 3 minutes of a guy not even holding a guitar at the start. I didn't come here fir you, I came here for a lesson Fucking hell.
The funny thing about Dollars & Cents is that Colin's bass part is in a minor scale throughout the song, so Ed's part makes it constantly resolve and unresolve between a major and minor contradiction. Same thing happens during the Airbag intro. Ed's 3 note line (E-D-C#-D-C#) is in A major, while Jonny's low E string riff fluctuates between major and minor, and ultimately resolves. This tension is what makes their interplay so interesting.
Airbag's intro is insane, There's three guitar riffs going on at the same time with different rhythms but it feels cohesive somehow
As a drummer who can tell he has a distinct style but can't really explain it, if you made "How to play like Phil Selway" I would literally die and go to heaven!
RIP this beautiful person
@@ej8736huh??
If I can ever afford it, you're in charge of the museum.
What is brilliant about Ed beyond his mad skills, is his harmonic backing vocals that lay the road for Thom’s slippery vocals. Oh, and he’s brilliant at sewing the fabric of seeming chaos that blooms into the beauty that is in every composition.
Hats off to you for nailing these sounds. Great video....just getting in the ballpark would have been revealing.
Interesting. I'm pretty sure Ed doesn't sing harmonies on the albums. The harmonies always sound like Thom overdubbing to me. And we all know how fond of overdubbing vocals Thom is. I'm pretty sure Ed just does those live because Thom can't sing two things at once.
@@matthewsaul3533 The 2nd voice in Weird Fishes must be Ed
Gorgeous! Oh, how I love Identikit.
This was probably the most useful breakdown for me so far. Ed's guitar is irreplaceable.
For a potential pt. 2, consider his gorgeous work on the Basement version of Videotape ;)
Max van Westerop it is gorgeous! I covered a tiny bit of it in my Pedalboards Explored video, and it’s also in TKoG’s article in the description!
@@JoeEdelmann3 That part is like the Gods speaking in unison.
Ed, to me, is the most underrated member of the band.
Jonny and Thom are monsters when it comes to guitar, so very little place for him. Also, he sucks.
@@christopheguillaume4032brother, you have a quarter of his intelligence.
I’d love a Radioheadesque songwriting tips video or something along those lines
Matthew Martinez it’s a cool idea! Someone mentioned something similar with stringing together the three individual guitarist lessons I’ve done to make a song in the style. I’ll think about it 🤔
@@JoeEdelmann3 thanks so much! I love your videos and your teaching methods.
Great video! Ed is definitely an underrated member of the band. No doubt he adds to the band’s definitive sounds, but he gets easily overshadowed by the other two guitarists’ fame.
A friend referred me to this guy and I've watched several videos. How the hell does this artist not have exponentially more subscribers and views? Seriously great stuff without gimmicks. I am at a loss.
Finally some Ed appreciation, long time coming now, thank you
Definitely love Ed's style. He reminds me heaps of Dave Gilmour in that he writes compositions which create a beautiful soundscape.
"EEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!" - Ed
Great job breaking down how Ed makes such a beautiful background for the rest of the band to play in! He really is key to the Radiohead sound, and adds so much, thanks!
I loveee this mann. Thank you for making the mysterious sounds of radiohead seem a bit more achieveable
Also with that Dollars and Cents bit, any more Amnesiac covers in mind??
Matthew Dofitas most definitely!
With all the knowledge and power you have, you might not be a famous artist or in a famous band in your lifetime but you better raise your kids to be the new and improved thom yorke.
I love Ed's playing on How To Disappear Completely. He has the mix on his reverb all the way up so there's no dry signal, which took me years to recreate. The only pedal I could find that does that is the Mooer Shimverb, though I'm sure he uses something else
Dom The Musician a lot of pedals now like the TC electronic ones have “kill dry” modes to be used in parallel effect loops!
It’s actually a twelve string rick sent through the memory man with some added fuzz
This is amazing, ed is why I got an analog delay. I love the way he uses the guitar.
Luis Jaquez analog delay is such a great effect!
Another great tutorial. Can't wait to put it to use. Thanks Joe.
I'm a big Ed fan. I have his Fender Stratocaster *signature* guitar (altho there is no signature!). Great guitar, with a Fernandes Sustainer at the neck, Texas Special in middle, and a SD JB Jr. at the bridge. Lots of fun!
Twas a great Manhattan show in February. I remember waiting an hour to an hour and a half after the show to meet him too. Massive guy. Talented guitarist.
Kevin Maryles 😆 so worth the wait though!
yes finally!! I´ve been waiting ages for a video like this!! thnx man
The videos and the info being given is awesome, but really the driving factor is that each video you keep glowing up even more
"I bring you some MUSEings"
You are a very well-spoken gentleman Joe. I love this series! Learned a lot from it.
This is pure gold. Thank you!
Your knowledge is extremely useful. You really go into the details and I appreciate the passion and work behind each of your videos.
I am a big fan of him man, I'm glad you met him joe,. He is great guitarist with Johnny greenwood
jonny
Nice work, fella! I do so enjoy these videos. Keep them coming 🙏
I love Joe.
I want to learn how to play like a Joe Edelmann... you ROCK!!!
THE MOST RADIOHEAD PERSON THAT I KNOW🚀🙌🏽
Thanks for these videos mate !!!
This is fantastic. High five!
Thanks Joe!
I don’t even have to watch to know that the video will be great 🙃
great video man
Been looking forward to this one 😁
like before watch.
always
i love when you start videos with hi friends :)
☺️✌️
My most anticipated one! Will you do Collin and Phil as well?
jackson prince possibly!
@@JoeEdelmann3 yes please, Colin, to me he is such an underrated/underappreciated bass player i would love to see you cover him.
My wife bought me EOB’s sustainer strat last Xmas. It really let me venture out, and get lost in the music again. I use it with a Helix floor, it’s amazing what I can get out of the two
this is so good
This could've been a good April Fool's video of you waiting for your chance to play like he does
Sam Carroll 😆 I too have seen the top solos video
Brilliant video......✌🏻🏴
How does he achieve the sound from Lucky? Whammy and delay? I can't get it to come close.
Thanks!!
Do you know what is ed doing on sail to the moon? sounds so cool. sail to the moon cover would be really nice
Fantastic
oh FUCK yea
te amo
Is that a shirt from the 2012 king of limbs tour? Looks alot like the posters i saw when they came to camden NJ?( nvm the video became alot clearer)
Indeed it is! Well, 2011 pre-tour…My first show was Roseland Ballroom!
great stuff now you gotta do his part on sail to the moon and staircase the only two of my favorites that you missed
Any chance of an episode like this on Phil's drumming? An episode on his gear as well as style and technique would be sick
Ted Ruiz yeah! I love his playing!
Totally agree.
Ed uses the dl4 to roughly double the speed of the loop for ful stop. I usually just do the double...your reverse addition sounds good
Yesss!
how to sing like thom yorke, or general concept of singing lol... u explain well
No reprobe mateeeee tambien que buen video bro
Eeeeeeeeeed
what's that swirling modulated sound during the Dollars and Cents part? just artifacts from the Whammy?
SolarFlaresMusic yep! It almost sounds like a phaser!
@@JoeEdelmann3 that's wild! that sound always drove me nuts cuz i had no idea what Ed was using to get that modulation. I assumed maybe it was a combination of his Lovetone pedals he was using during the Amnesiac sessions. Wow. Do the artifacts only occur with the Whammy 4 or are they also present on the newest version?
SolarFlaresMusic they’re most pronounced with the Whammy 4, but you can get similar ones in classic mode on the Whammy 5!
@@JoeEdelmann3 yeah i had a feeling the Whammy 4 was gonna do this sound better. Thanks for the info. I have a PS-6 with an expression pedal. I wonder if it has this mode that alternates between major and minor.
SolarFlaresMusic maybe! I’m not super familiar with the PS-6
Ooft, great video.
What Effect is used in 15 step ?
On the original album I believe he’s using samples of an instrument called an Autoharp! And putting it through a whole mess of delay and pitch effects. When Burne Holiday covered the song we used a looper to make a short sample of the notes of the G#m chord, then used a Whammy to shift it around and some delays to make it more warbly.
Hi Joe, question. Does the Ditto looper let you repitch the Ful Stop loops? ie play them an octave up/down when played back at double/half speed, like Ed does with the DL4 looper?
James Duffy hi James! Yes, sorry if It wasn’t clear, but that’s what I’m doing in this example (with the Double speed function specifically). There is a Double and a Half speed mode in the FX section. You cant continuously manipulate the pitch to other speeds though.
@@JoeEdelmann3 Thanks for the reply! Yeah I saw that, but I noticed it doesn't repitch them, it only changes the tempo.
James Duffy oh, it does still repitch with those FX though! If you see when I record the loop it technically is an octave below where I end up triggering it... I also have a Whammy engaged with an octave harmony that may be making it hard to hear.
@@JoeEdelmann3 holy cow, you're right, I didn't notice you played it an octave lower to start. I was focusing too much on the knob fiddling. thanks for the clarification! (and I was being dumb anyway, because you didn't change the tempo while playing with the pedal, just reversed it.)
James Duffy haha no worries! I didn’t explain too much about the fiddling I was doing ...
I missread this as how to sound like Ed O'neill, not disappointed at all.
Scott Moser 😂
What power supply do you use to power that memory man?
You should cover maquiladora, a killer song ;)
could you give us a general idea of how much such a wonderful pedalboard setting would hurt our wallets?
also, could you share your opinions on VSTs plugins that simulate pedals and amp presets digitally?
vh ks it depends on whether you go for the actual effect brand names or close substitutes, but Ed’s main classics (Memory Man and Whammy for example) go for around $200 each. Still, you could almost certainly imitate the philosophy of the effects chain with a set of cheaper pedals. Ed has also used cheaper pedals as well, like the Mooer E Lady (electric mistress flanger clone) which is just $80 and sounds fantastic!
I don’t use a lot of pedal and amp VSTs, but I have occasionally used those built into Logic Pro X and they’re pretty solid! I like the Bass Amp Simulators Ampeg model, the Guitar Amp’s AC30 style, and for their Pedals I think the GRIT (RAT clone) and Candy Fuzz are fantastic. They even have a whammy imitation!
Ooho sisiiisiiiii
I think you should consider buying an EOB strat with sustainer...
GuitArchitecture I know... it’s awesome 😅
where´s is the final sound of idioteque
s a d m u s i c c o v e r s ah, another good one! Maybe in a future video.
This was wonderful! Thank you!! Quick question: Does Ed use his sustainer guitar to pull off the intro to some live versions of National Anthem? Particularly the one in this video: th-cam.com/video/hTzRliW3iFs/w-d-xo.html (not his finest moment but it's a good example of what I'm inquiring about)
Richard Long indeed he does! The Ebow and the sustainer pickup work on very similar principles, but the pickup helps free up both hands! (Notice how he gets to use the whammy bar there) You do have to sometimes give the string a little bit of a play/press to start the sustain though.
Thank you Joe! I’m fascinated. I appreciate all of your work very much. It is obvious that great care goes into your craft. You’re exactly the kind of fan Radiohead deserves.
These are really great videos. I really relate in a lot of ways to what you're doing here. When Ok Computer came out I was about 16, and only a couple years into playing guitar. Pretty quickly I taught myself every guitar part and a lot of the keyboard/rhodes parts and I used to set up all my pedals, press play on the CD player and play along from beginning to end. One technique I've always been really curious about is that iconic Ok Computer trem delay, used mostly in Ed's part of the Airbag solo (Where Jonny's part of the solo seems clearly delay free and possibly with a slide involved) and I think Jonny in the Airbag breakdown at the end, and also in Ed's part in Exit Music. I know it's basically a delay used while plucking trem style, but I've never been able to work out a solid version of it. Are multiple delays being used to achieve the sound? What speed of delay time is used, how much delay feedback, and how does the speed of the picking correlate to the delay time? It seems the feedback is low or the delay time is fairly quick since you don't really hear lag repeats when they change notes, slide up or down to a note, etc. I'd love to see a video on this if you've managed to figure it out, or just your thoughts in a comment.
I think you’re right that in those cases Ed and/or Jonny are typically using shorter delay times and less repeats, just to thicken up the tremolo picking without distracting from the melody! Ed definitely uses multiple delays a lot on other occasions though, to make ambient pad sounds all you need are two delays at maybe 75% ratio to each other so the repeats kind of bounce off each other in least common multiples and eventually sound like one blur with the feedback. I’m definitely planning to make more videos on these and other topics though!
Ooh shiiittt
A guitar tutorial video with over 3 minutes of a guy not even holding a guitar at the start.
I didn't come here fir you, I came here for a lesson
Fucking hell.