No matter how much I admire Radiohead and their creative prowess, videos like this make me admire them even more! What a great band! I can’t believe how good they are. And obviously, I also admire Joe and want to thank him for all of his videos, keep up the good work my man! You’re killing it
Rodolfo Estrada thank you!! Making videos like this is so fun and makes me really appreciate them more than I already do too (which is a lot)! More to come soon!
Would you ever consider making another one of these? They're IMMENSELY helpful and a great resource for not only replicating these sounds but better understanding this instrument and having a good starting point for similar patches I want to make. I'm particularly curious about the bassy synth in The Butcher that you used in your cover. Tinker Tailor Soldier Sailor is another one with a great, specific synth sound I'd love to see you tackle. In any case, keep up the great work, love your vids.
Just made the closest possible patch to Staircase on my Prophet 5 (it's got a lot less features so I had to cut certain things)... sounded absolutely gorgeous. Thank you for this, I have a hard time dialing in Radiohead synth sounds at times because they can be pretty wild, and awash with delay, making it hard to pinpoint what's happening. You've got a great ear! Thanks again, I can finally play a lot of these songs thanks to your videos. :)
pure gold... love it. Thanks for such an educational video. I'll try these tricks right away in my Rev2. A next challenge for you: Dawn Chorus synth on the REV2!
Great tutorial! I have always loved the Yorke solo and Radiohead synth sounds. Though I've been messing with synthesis for a while, I found it very insightful to see you build these sounds in a linear fashion. Well done!
You’re doing the lord’s work, son. Seriously though, I could never get remotely close and was always confused by the Prophet’s modulation matrix and all the LFOs and just everything. I actually feel like I understand the synth now. Thank you!!! Keep doing more prophet stuff like this, the settings and education are invaluable for REAL!
Incredible video!!! I know so much more about synthesizers now. If you could do a part 2 to this showing how to connect and work with a daw/analog mixer/audio interface that would be amazing.
Thank you Joe, new subscriber here glad I discovered you on a whim. Loving your channel and can tell I’ll be here a lot. Appreciate you sharing your knowledge and the way you break it down for everyone to comprehend. Keep on always! Thanx 🙏🏻
apart from all the cool sounds they make, im super intrigued by their rhythm as well. it would be amazing if you can crack down on the more confusing yet hypnotizing beats, such of weird fishes, 15 step, paranoid android, everything in its right place and so forth
Very fine work this and your other videos, keep it up! How about the polyphonic synth on Where I end...? The live version from the Jools show in 2003 sounds wicked! If you ever do part 3 or dissect the monophonic sounds, please consider the solo of Climbing Up the Walls (i know Jonny uses his Ondomo for this live nowadays but the Prophecy in the album sounds massive).
Thanks Joe, tried recreating the Supercollider one on my Deepmind12. Came very close, despite some features missing compared to the Rev2. Very cool. Thanks and best regards from the Netherlands!
You should do a video on the loops of radiohead! I love how they use mostly guitar loops for texture and color like in the end of Idioteque, end of Weird Fishes, Ed's work throughout Decks Dark and Ful Stop
Radiohead fan or not, this is a great video, showing the versatility of the Rev 2. Unfortunately, Joe's talent for creating sounds doesn't come with it. Good work!
I randomly found your videos ....when you begin to play any radiohead song or part it reminds me of when I first discovered them with hail to the thief and felt so hypnotized by them unable to stop listening....thanks for making these videos......ps wierd fishes -johnnys part...can't find it anywhere online...any way you can help me find it?
Hello Joe Edelmann. Congratulations for your channel. I want to make you a question. How did developed your ear to recreate synths sounds? I am new in this area. I am trying to learn about the paremeters, but my ear don't recognize the sounds difference very well. I just recorded a cover (Voice and piano) of The Vampyre of Time and Memory and I am trying to get the synth sound, but I still couldnt. Can you help? By the way, I am a big fan of radiohead too. Again, congrats for your content.
Are any of these sounds only possible if you have the 16 voice version or are they just as possible with the 8 voice version of the Prophet Rev2?? Love your videos man. Keep it up.
Juan Aldahondo they should all be just as possible on the 8 voice! The extra voices mostly help with playing it piano style with extra notes in the chord or using a sustain pedal. But most of Thom’s chording is fairly sparse - even an old-school 5 voice like the original Prophet would probably still work!
Very Good Job Joe, please can you share with me the pattern of program for the Arpeggiators for Let Down end? Thank you in advance, greetins From Peru.
Thanks! When recreating it, I don’t think I used any sort of predetermined pattern… just a randomized sequencer on the notes of the A major scale across a few octaves should do the trick!
@@JoeEdelmann3 fair play, thank you for referring to the part 2. i was wondering, with your current gears, i was wondering how would you do ok computer synths cos they are mostly 90s digital synths hooked to pedals. would be awesome to see how you would copy paranoid android's strings/mellotron etc. using today's analog revival synths
This is mind blowing!! Thank you so much for doing this, I learned so much! -- With the live version of “Everything In It’s Right Place” on the prophet 08, do they use some of these same ideas?? I love that sound, reminds me of Boards of Canada
Hi, you mention a stronger 8-pole filter mode a few times. I don't think the REV2 has more than a 4-pole mode, but could you clarify? Thanks, cool video.
Jeremy Bernstein wow, whoops! You’re right, it’s a 2/4 pole switch not 4/8. Not sure why I mixed that up. So yeah, 4 is the stronger setting (button illuminated)
Hi, Great sounding stuff. Have you dissecting the lead sound from 'Ill Wind' I've been trying to figure out how they are getting that tone. it sounds like it could be a self oscillating filter but not sure it sounds almost as though in a different tuning also.
Do you mean the 5/8 arpeggios part underneath the saw wave melody (whose sound I did here as part of Supercollider)? I believe that’s Jonny on Ondes Martenot (the keyboard part of it)! th-cam.com/video/zzuGlEN2KuM/w-d-xo.html
@@JoeEdelmann3 Oh true is it the Ondes? That would explain it, such a nice sound. I was also thinking it could be inspired by the intro of 'Ill Wind' by Frank Sinatra. Clarinets in the opening.
Hey Joe,thank you so much for this video! Anyway, do you have any advice for a beginner keyboard/synths player on what i should practice or learn in able to use it as part of my songwriting tools? I do really want to be able to create something like kid a / amnesiac kind of sounds..haha
No problem! Do you mean more playing techniques or sound techniques? For playing like Thom, in that era and beyond: I'd say use a lot of split voicings (putting root notes in the left hand and then say the major or minor third an octave above in the right hand). Learn some basic modes and scales (for example, Phrygian is a big one for Everything In Its Right Place or Pyramid Song). For sound techniques: As seen in this video, focus on simple sounds with even just one saw or pulse wave oscillator, and add complexity by introducing pitch vibrato, or modulate the pitch or filter cutoff with white noise. Learn how to work with Envelopes to get the right punchiness or dreaminess out of the sound.
Nick Badamo it should! The voices just relate to the degree of polyphony you have (how many notes you can stack at once). Most of the chords Thom uses are fairly sparse (if you’ve seen my other video), so 8 should be more than enough, otherwise the 8 voice and 16 voice Rev2 are identical under the hood.
David McKelvey they used a ZX Spectrum computer for that sound I believe! I got something close by using a simple Triangle wave on my MicroKorg (for that 8-bitty sound) and playing an A major sus4 chord, latching the arpeggio set to Randomly trigger the notes across a couple octaves. Here’s our cover of it: th-cam.com/video/BKmy7CnUzmc/w-d-xo.html
Hey Joe, I was just wondering if the sounds you recreated here, namely Identikit 2012 could be done on a Moog Grandmother? I am looking to buy my first synth and want to be able to make these kinds of sounds but don't want to spend over $1,000. That would be great if you could let me know (if you are able to find out), thanks.
Hi Benjamin! I’m not super familiar with the Grandmother (other than just thinking “it’s a Moog, it must be awesome”). Obviously, every synth has a slightly different voice because of its unique oscillators and more importantly it’s filter. For Identikit, there’s not too much filtering though at least, so it’s probably possible to get a broadly similar sound. The key is the LFO vibrato and long release time.
@@JoeEdelmann3 ok thanks for the advice! I just haven’t heard sounds like that from any of the demos I’ve watched and was afraid it couldn’t make sounds like that or staircase, you know just that super fuzzy spacey sound which I have no idea what makes it that way all I know is that I love it and don’t wanna buy the synth and it not be able to do it at all but I doubt that’s the case.
Hello. The Moog Grandmother is a monophonic semi-modular synth. Only plays one note at a time (maybe 2?). Great for leads, bass tones, and like blips and bleeps, but maybe not the best choice if you're looking for something to play more pad-like tones like Identikit and Staircase, shown here. It seems you might prefer a polysynth.
@@brianmcleod3783 thanks for the info! I had no idea, I couldn’t figure out why the sounds from the moog demos vs demos of prophet rev2, notation summit etc. sounded so vastly different. If you don’t mind, are there any polysynths you’d recommend?
@Benjamin Devlin Honestly I'm pretty fresh on this journey myself! I have a Korg Minilogue XD, which I dig, and I think it's a great synth to start on, but I'm already on the hunt for something else even though I'll keep it for fun. It does a lot, but only has 4 notes of polyphony, which I've found a bit limiting. So I'm also looking for a good analog polysynth too. Ideally I would love to get a Prophet 5 or 6, or an OB6, but I just can't justify the price quite yet. If you have a midi controller keyboard, there are some great soft synths out there that will at least get you close to the sounds you're seeking, and will allow you to tweak the parameters like in this video. Some free ones like Surge (open source synth) are seriously awesome and have some great presets too. So for example, in the meantime while I'm looking around for my next hardware synth, I'm buying a good midi interface and the U-He Repro plugin pack which is supposed to be the best Pro-One /Prophet 5 emulator out there. Here's a video where they A/B a real one with the plugin. Tough to tell the difference: th-cam.com/video/uFA_B6pP9AA/w-d-xo.html Ha, I maybe just made things more confusing for you? The r/synthesizer subreddit is great for info too. Fair warning: this is a pretty deep, dark hole. I've already spent too many hours of my life on this, but I think it's super fun, so... Good luck!
Cathal Roper depends on your style of playing, but I don’t think you’ll have an issue with 8. 16 is probably more voices than you’ll ever need (there are only 10 fingers after all...) but where it really helps is in stacked (bi-timbral) sounds or for playing “piano style” with a sustain pedal (so you don’t run out of voices as fast). All the best polys of the 80s (Prophet 5, Oberheim, Juno etc) had 6 or fewer and are still excellent, or that limitation led to more interesting chord voicings. Oh yeah, also if you decide later you can always get the expander card to add the additional 8 voices!
@@rentarash no worries! I haven't done it myself, but I looked it up and it seems fairly straightforward! www.davesmithinstruments.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Rev2-Voice-Expansion-1.0.pdf?x72411
Roger Torrent both the 16 and 8 voices should behave identically (sonically)! The only difference is in your polyphony limitations (number of notes you can play at once, for single layer, or stacked sounds divided by 2). Most of the actual parts Thom plays are wide chord voicings that don’t push the limit of 8 voice polyphony.
Joe Edelmann sorry to bother you again. Do you think this synth (REV2) is a best buy, in order to recreat sounds that range okcomputer till now radiohead era? Is it worth it? What other synths do you recommend me? I hope i explain myself, sorry for my rusty english...
Roger Torrent the REV2 is a fantastic synth, with a wide range of possible sounds and built off of a strong legacy by a great company. I definitely recommend it in general because it’s a beautiful polysynth with a lot of functionality. In terms of Radiohead specifically, they’ve used a lot of different synth sounds if you go all the way back to OKC (Korg Prophecy, Mellotron which is actually a tape sampler, Crumar Strings, Novation Bass Station, etc.) and really only actually started using the Prophet ‘08 for the King of Limbs/AMSP era (but used the vintage Prophet V for Kid A). As I show in these videos, you can still get close to the sounds of other synths (except maybe a mellotron Bc it’s not a synth) with the rev2. So it depends on what you’re going for exactly!
Joe Edelmann Thanks a lot. Yes, the idea is to have a tool to create those kind of atmospheres but not exactly the same, so I will consider owning one then 🤩. By the way, I have a band called Ós Bru, feel free to listen to it. We mix inflences from radiohead, sigur ros, mogwai. Thanks again! 😃
@@JoeEdelmann3 have you done a lot of stacked layer presets? a lot of people say that a big strong point of the rev2 is stacking two presets to make one huge sound, therefore getting the 16 voice would leave you with 8 voices per timbre/layer i think. i do like your answer though, since i just got my 8 voice but i hope to get the expansion card for additional voices down the road. i have noticed that some of the presets i like so far are stacked, and leave me with 4 voices only
@@christdolphin69 I’ve done a few stacked patches, yes, and they are pretty useful! So, yes, that is an advantage of the 16 voice like you said. But still, the sound of even one layer can get pretty massive between the two oscillators, sub oscillator and effects. And like you said, can always upgrade later!
Thom uses a prophet 6 now. He purchased it in 2018. Staircase was his Prophet 08 "Performance Edition" keyboard. You nailed it with that rev2! I was able to catch a glimpse of the P6 whenI saw him live this year. Here's a glimpse from the web: 66.media.tumblr.com/79eb5bfae0797014526749a4af123b3d/tumblr_inline_pj2gqkq9U01t9wpfo_500.png
Station 2Station yep, that’s his main synth for his solo stuff now! But he still trots out the ‘08 for Radiohead gigs. Both amazing instruments, such lush sounds.
Well, technically not a synth sound, but you can get close with one! In me and Takas cover I used the Arturia Vox Continental organ plug-in to get close to Thoms live sound.
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Staircase 5:55
Identikit 2012 8:57
Identikit 2016 12:18
Lotus Flower 13:48
Supercollider/Ill Wind 16:42
Your channel is simply too good to be true
Great video man!
No matter how much I admire Radiohead and their creative prowess, videos like this make me admire them even more! What a great band! I can’t believe how good they are. And obviously, I also admire Joe and want to thank him for all of his videos, keep up the good work my man! You’re killing it
Rodolfo Estrada thank you!! Making videos like this is so fun and makes me really appreciate them more than I already do too (which is a lot)! More to come soon!
Joe Edelmann I can’t wait to watch your new videos! Thanks for your amazing work!
I don't even own a Rev2 but I was so engaged throughout the whole demonstration. GG man, thanks for putting this out for us 👍🏼
Channel of the year and I'm not a musician, just a listener
Would you ever consider making another one of these? They're IMMENSELY helpful and a great resource for not only replicating these sounds but better understanding this instrument and having a good starting point for similar patches I want to make. I'm particularly curious about the bassy synth in The Butcher that you used in your cover. Tinker Tailor Soldier Sailor is another one with a great, specific synth sound I'd love to see you tackle. In any case, keep up the great work, love your vids.
Just made the closest possible patch to Staircase on my Prophet 5 (it's got a lot less features so I had to cut certain things)... sounded absolutely gorgeous. Thank you for this, I have a hard time dialing in Radiohead synth sounds at times because they can be pretty wild, and awash with delay, making it hard to pinpoint what's happening. You've got a great ear! Thanks again, I can finally play a lot of these songs thanks to your videos. :)
Prophet 5! 😍😍😍 no problem!
Rich, fuzzy, HAIRY, high harmonic sound us a sentence I never thought I would hear.
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great video dude!
This is awesome!!
Closed caption wrote Kid A as Kitteh hahaha
Absolutely fantastic Video, ive been sat in front of my Rev2 all day watching this 👍
pure gold... love it. Thanks for such an educational video. I'll try these tricks right away in my Rev2. A next challenge for you: Dawn Chorus synth on the REV2!
Dude, Your video channel was MADE for me! Awesome videos!
Great tutorial! I have always loved the Yorke solo and Radiohead synth sounds. Though I've been messing with synthesis for a while, I found it very insightful to see you build these sounds in a linear fashion. Well done!
The poly sequencer on it is amazing.
You’re doing the lord’s work, son. Seriously though, I could never get remotely close and was always confused by the Prophet’s modulation matrix and all the LFOs and just everything. I actually feel like I understand the synth now. Thank you!!! Keep doing more prophet stuff like this, the settings and education are invaluable for REAL!
This is amazing! Love the T-shirt too, epic band.
I really appreciate this tutorial. Thanks Joe, love your content
Incredible video!!! I know so much more about synthesizers now. If you could do a part 2 to this showing how to connect and work with a daw/analog mixer/audio interface that would be amazing.
great video! thanks
Great content Joe!
This is just beautiful! Very thorough and well explained
Thank you Joe, new subscriber here glad I discovered you on a whim. Loving your channel and can tell I’ll be here a lot. Appreciate you sharing your knowledge and the way you break it down for everyone to comprehend. Keep on always! Thanx 🙏🏻
Sounds great, please make a bunch of these
Great job! You kick ass!
apart from all the cool sounds they make, im super intrigued by their rhythm as well. it would be amazing if you can crack down on the more confusing yet hypnotizing beats, such of weird fishes, 15 step, paranoid android, everything in its right place and so forth
+1, please do that
@@no12578 weird fishes is actually drums and bass 4/4, eds guitar 3/4 and jonnys guitar 5/4, sounds absolutely amazing
Radiohead, led Zeppelin, Queens of the Stone Age... You like all my favorite rock bands of all time. Great video
My dude, thank you for making these videos and doing those covers. They're all excellent.
This is great Joe. Thanks for making this!
Thankyou for taking the time to do this! Fantastic content!
Broken hearts, make it rain ♪
Broken hearts, make it rain ♪
You are an absolute legend.
You’re a legend, bro
Great video. I guess "Everything is its right place" is also played on Prophet 5?
Yep, the original studio recording was a prophet 5! Nowadays live Thom has used the Prophet ‘08 for it though.
Great stuff dude, thank you! Especially the Staircase sound. Love that.
Very fine work this and your other videos, keep it up! How about the polyphonic synth on Where I end...? The live version from the Jools show in 2003 sounds wicked! If you ever do part 3 or dissect the monophonic sounds, please consider the solo of Climbing Up the Walls (i know Jonny uses his Ondomo for this live nowadays but the Prophecy in the album sounds massive).
Your videos are incredible. You are so damn smart. Make more. Teach more.
Great job, really good info!
Thanks Joe, tried recreating the Supercollider one on my Deepmind12. Came very close, despite some features missing compared to the Rev2. Very cool. Thanks and best regards from the Netherlands!
Very good video, well done
Great video man
I always loved the synth part to Paperbag Writer (Bside to There There)
I always thought they were strings
You should do a video on the loops of radiohead! I love how they use mostly guitar loops for texture and color like in the end of Idioteque, end of Weird Fishes, Ed's work throughout Decks Dark and Ful Stop
Excelente video hermano
Nice demo by the way.
this is excellent!
Radiohead fan or not, this is a great video, showing the versatility of the Rev 2. Unfortunately, Joe's talent for creating sounds doesn't come with it. Good work!
Damion Jensen ☺️ thank you!
Thank you for explaining how to create that Bladerunner CS-80 mournful sound with my Roland JD-XA.
i love your channel ❤️
this is sick
you're really cool dude
This channel is a gift from the gods.
what this is perfect
I randomly found your videos ....when you begin to play any radiohead song or part it reminds me of when I first discovered them with hail to the thief and felt so hypnotized by them unable to stop listening....thanks for making these videos......ps wierd fishes -johnnys part...can't find it anywhere online...any way you can help me find it?
awesome
🤯 you are so smart 🙌🏻
Could you do some of James Blake someday!:) thanks for this.
Ryan Schuman no problem! I’ll have to check out more of his stuff!
@@JoeEdelmann3 I video like this with Janes Blake synth sounds would be the best video in TH-cam.
Yesss, please do an analysis like this for some James Blake tracks!!
Hello Joe Edelmann. Congratulations for your channel.
I want to make you a question. How did developed your ear to recreate synths sounds? I am new in this area. I am trying to learn about the paremeters, but my ear don't recognize the sounds difference very well. I just recorded a cover (Voice and piano) of The Vampyre of Time and Memory and I am trying to get the synth sound, but I still couldnt. Can you help?
By the way, I am a big fan of radiohead too.
Again, congrats for your content.
You are amazing
Are any of these sounds only possible if you have the 16 voice version or are they just as possible with the 8 voice version of the Prophet Rev2?? Love your videos man. Keep it up.
Juan Aldahondo they should all be just as possible on the 8 voice! The extra voices mostly help with playing it piano style with extra notes in the chord or using a sustain pedal. But most of Thom’s chording is fairly sparse - even an old-school 5 voice like the original Prophet would probably still work!
You mention using 8 pole filter but from all I can find online the Rev2 has 2/4 pole modes. Am I missing something? Great work!
bluebus15 you’re not! I misspoke 😅 when I say 8 I mean 4 and when I say 4 I mean 2. Sorry!
I was hoping this would be about the musical theory of progressions.
stu9000 well, there’s still time for that!
@@JoeEdelmann3 Great! Didn't mean to be unappreciative, it's just that I know the sound design side already.
Great tutorial. But how do you make the Rev2 filter 8-pole? 🤔
I know only 2-pole (button off) and 4-pole (on).
Rayy‘s Musikladen you are correct! I misspoke during the video. The button turns on 4 pole from 2 pole. There is no 8 pole 😅
Very Good Job Joe, please can you share with me the pattern of program for the Arpeggiators for Let Down end? Thank you in advance, greetins From Peru.
Thanks! When recreating it, I don’t think I used any sort of predetermined pattern… just a randomized sequencer on the notes of the A major scale across a few octaves should do the trick!
the synth sounds of RECENT radiohead
fair - I cover some older examples in Pt 2! th-cam.com/video/GcxRHzkyphg/w-d-xo.html
@@JoeEdelmann3 fair play, thank you for referring to the part 2. i was wondering, with your current gears, i was wondering how would you do ok computer synths cos they are mostly 90s digital synths hooked to pedals. would be awesome to see how you would copy paranoid android's strings/mellotron etc. using today's analog revival synths
Another great video Joe. Note to self: stop watching Joe's videos and play some bloody music!
nicen nice haha yeah go play! well maybe still watch a little bit for my sake 😉
This is mind blowing!! Thank you so much for doing this, I learned so much! -- With the live version of “Everything In It’s Right Place” on the prophet 08, do they use some of these same ideas?? I love that sound, reminds me of Boards of Canada
AJ Smith yes very similar building blocks! I’ll probably make a part two eventually and/or a cover of the live version!
You’re awesome Joe!
Can you do a video explaining how do you record/mix your covers?
Hi, you mention a stronger 8-pole filter mode a few times. I don't think the REV2 has more than a 4-pole mode, but could you clarify? Thanks, cool video.
Jeremy Bernstein wow, whoops! You’re right, it’s a 2/4 pole switch not 4/8. Not sure why I mixed that up. So yeah, 4 is the stronger setting (button illuminated)
Hi,
Great sounding stuff.
Have you dissecting the lead sound from 'Ill Wind' I've been trying to figure out how they are getting that tone. it sounds like it could be a self oscillating filter but not sure it sounds almost as though in a different tuning also.
Do you mean the 5/8 arpeggios part underneath the saw wave melody (whose sound I did here as part of Supercollider)? I believe that’s Jonny on Ondes Martenot (the keyboard part of it)!
th-cam.com/video/zzuGlEN2KuM/w-d-xo.html
@@JoeEdelmann3 Oh true is it the Ondes? That would explain it, such a nice sound. I was also thinking it could be inspired by the intro of 'Ill Wind' by Frank Sinatra. Clarinets in the opening.
Hey Joe,thank you so much for this video!
Anyway, do you have any advice for a beginner keyboard/synths player on what i should practice or learn in able to use it as part of my songwriting tools? I do really want to be able to create something like kid a / amnesiac kind of sounds..haha
No problem! Do you mean more playing techniques or sound techniques?
For playing like Thom, in that era and beyond: I'd say use a lot of split voicings (putting root notes in the left hand and then say the major or minor third an octave above in the right hand). Learn some basic modes and scales (for example, Phrygian is a big one for Everything In Its Right Place or Pyramid Song).
For sound techniques: As seen in this video, focus on simple sounds with even just one saw or pulse wave oscillator, and add complexity by introducing pitch vibrato, or modulate the pitch or filter cutoff with white noise. Learn how to work with Envelopes to get the right punchiness or dreaminess out of the sound.
There isn't an 8Pole mode as you mentioned. I believe there is just 4 Pole and 2 Pole.
That’s right, a verbal type-o on my part! Sorry about that!
@Joe Edelmann will this work with the prophet rev2 8 voice?
Nick Badamo it should! The voices just relate to the degree of polyphony you have (how many notes you can stack at once). Most of the chords Thom uses are fairly sparse (if you’ve seen my other video), so 8 should be more than enough, otherwise the 8 voice and 16 voice Rev2 are identical under the hood.
Thank you that’s all I needed to hear I’m picking mine up tomorrow
Nick Badamo oh and double bonus is you could always expand the voices on the 8 later if you wanted!
Very helpfull, thank you very much!
Right now my band just want to finish our song, can you help to suggest what is the simplest effect for my guitarist?
Have you made or considered making a video like this for the sounds on Anima?
Miguel Pulido there’s a couple anima related sounds in this one! th-cam.com/video/v32rURpVzq0/w-d-xo.html
Could you do a synth sounds of muse(I love the arpeggiators they use) and queens of the stone age
Elijah Lanning maybe! I dug their use of arpeggiators early in my synth journey also!
myxomatosis!
Blaster Silonga I’m thinking of hitting my take on that in part two along with some others!
nice video, I d suggest time chapters thought
Your dope
Dont make it too cerebral just noodle the notes.
There are so many Radioheads out there!
I've always been curious on how to recreate the synth from Let Down
David McKelvey they used a ZX Spectrum computer for that sound I believe! I got something close by using a simple Triangle wave on my MicroKorg (for that 8-bitty sound) and playing an A major sus4 chord, latching the arpeggio set to Randomly trigger the notes across a couple octaves. Here’s our cover of it: th-cam.com/video/BKmy7CnUzmc/w-d-xo.html
I think.........I think I love you.
Love the shirt
I have that Synth.
Johnny Diamonds Music isn’t it awesome??
Joe Edelmann there’s a vid of me doing a few patches on my channel.
Please do Yorke solo. Ingenue &Default
th-cam.com/video/Zs4Cq9YUvPg/w-d-xo.html
interesting video. i wish you talked about Myxomatosis, though.
ThisGuy7845 was thinking of a part 2 maybe!
Hey Joe, I was just wondering if the sounds you recreated here, namely Identikit 2012 could be done on a Moog Grandmother? I am looking to buy my first synth and want to be able to make these kinds of sounds but don't want to spend over $1,000. That would be great if you could let me know (if you are able to find out), thanks.
Hi Benjamin! I’m not super familiar with the Grandmother (other than just thinking “it’s a Moog, it must be awesome”). Obviously, every synth has a slightly different voice because of its unique oscillators and more importantly it’s filter. For Identikit, there’s not too much filtering though at least, so it’s probably possible to get a broadly similar sound. The key is the LFO vibrato and long release time.
@@JoeEdelmann3 ok thanks for the advice! I just haven’t heard sounds like that from any of the demos I’ve watched and was afraid it couldn’t make sounds like that or staircase, you know just that super fuzzy spacey sound which I have no idea what makes it that way all I know is that I love it and don’t wanna buy the synth and it not be able to do it at all but I doubt that’s the case.
Hello. The Moog Grandmother is a monophonic semi-modular synth. Only plays one note at a time (maybe 2?). Great for leads, bass tones, and like blips and bleeps, but maybe not the best choice if you're looking for something to play more pad-like tones like Identikit and Staircase, shown here. It seems you might prefer a polysynth.
@@brianmcleod3783 thanks for the info! I had no idea, I couldn’t figure out why the sounds from the moog demos vs demos of prophet rev2, notation summit etc. sounded so vastly different. If you don’t mind, are there any polysynths you’d recommend?
@Benjamin Devlin Honestly I'm pretty fresh on this journey myself! I have a Korg Minilogue XD, which I dig, and I think it's a great synth to start on, but I'm already on the hunt for something else even though I'll keep it for fun. It does a lot, but only has 4 notes of polyphony, which I've found a bit limiting. So I'm also looking for a good analog polysynth too. Ideally I would love to get a Prophet 5 or 6, or an OB6, but I just can't justify the price quite yet. If you have a midi controller keyboard, there are some great soft synths out there that will at least get you close to the sounds you're seeking, and will allow you to tweak the parameters like in this video. Some free ones like Surge (open source synth) are seriously awesome and have some great presets too.
So for example, in the meantime while I'm looking around for my next hardware synth, I'm buying a good midi interface and the U-He Repro plugin pack which is supposed to be the best Pro-One /Prophet 5 emulator out there.
Here's a video where they A/B a real one with the plugin. Tough to tell the difference: th-cam.com/video/uFA_B6pP9AA/w-d-xo.html
Ha, I maybe just made things more confusing for you? The r/synthesizer subreddit is great for info too. Fair warning: this is a pretty deep, dark hole. I've already spent too many hours of my life on this, but I think it's super fun, so...
Good luck!
They really messed up Identikit, the 2012 synth line is why I bought a prophet 08
Which version of the prophet is this rev 8 or 16?
Cathal Roper it is the Rev2 16-voice!
@@JoeEdelmann3 how would the 8 voice hold up, looking into to buying and it's more in my price range
Cathal Roper depends on your style of playing, but I don’t think you’ll have an issue with 8. 16 is probably more voices than you’ll ever need (there are only 10 fingers after all...) but where it really helps is in stacked (bi-timbral) sounds or for playing “piano style” with a sustain pedal (so you don’t run out of voices as fast). All the best polys of the 80s (Prophet 5, Oberheim, Juno etc) had 6 or fewer and are still excellent, or that limitation led to more interesting chord voicings. Oh yeah, also if you decide later you can always get the expander card to add the additional 8 voices!
@@JoeEdelmann3 thanks man, that's interesting, is that card hard to install? Last qs I swear
Thanks with your help so far
@@rentarash no worries! I haven't done it myself, but I looked it up and it seems fairly straightforward! www.davesmithinstruments.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Rev2-Voice-Expansion-1.0.pdf?x72411
Is that possible to do with Sequential Prophet REV2-16 or REV2-8? Thanks in advance!
Roger Torrent both the 16 and 8 voices should behave identically (sonically)! The only difference is in your polyphony limitations (number of notes you can play at once, for single layer, or stacked sounds divided by 2). Most of the actual parts Thom plays are wide chord voicings that don’t push the limit of 8 voice polyphony.
Joe Edelmann sorry to bother you again. Do you think this synth (REV2) is a best buy, in order to recreat sounds that range okcomputer till now radiohead era? Is it worth it? What other synths do you recommend me? I hope i explain myself, sorry for my rusty english...
Roger Torrent the REV2 is a fantastic synth, with a wide range of possible sounds and built off of a strong legacy by a great company. I definitely recommend it in general because it’s a beautiful polysynth with a lot of functionality. In terms of Radiohead specifically, they’ve used a lot of different synth sounds if you go all the way back to OKC (Korg Prophecy, Mellotron which is actually a tape sampler, Crumar Strings, Novation Bass Station, etc.) and really only actually started using the Prophet ‘08 for the King of Limbs/AMSP era (but used the vintage Prophet V for Kid A). As I show in these videos, you can still get close to the sounds of other synths (except maybe a mellotron Bc it’s not a synth) with the rev2. So it depends on what you’re going for exactly!
Joe Edelmann Thanks a lot. Yes, the idea is to have a tool to create those kind of atmospheres but not exactly the same, so I will consider owning one then 🤩. By the way, I have a band called Ós Bru, feel free to listen to it. We mix inflences from radiohead, sigur ros, mogwai. Thanks again! 😃
Is the 16 voice Prophet Rev2 doing anything here the 8 voice couldn't?
Nope, just added polyphony, but most of these parts don’t use up all 16 voices at once anyway!
@@JoeEdelmann3 have you done a lot of stacked layer presets? a lot of people say that a big strong point of the rev2 is stacking two presets to make one huge sound, therefore getting the 16 voice would leave you with 8 voices per timbre/layer i think. i do like your answer though, since i just got my 8 voice but i hope to get the expansion card for additional voices down the road. i have noticed that some of the presets i like so far are stacked, and leave me with 4 voices only
@@christdolphin69 I’ve done a few stacked patches, yes, and they are pretty useful! So, yes, that is an advantage of the 16 voice like you said. But still, the sound of even one layer can get pretty massive between the two oscillators, sub oscillator and effects. And like you said, can always upgrade later!
it's a 2 and 4 pole filter, not 4 and 8.
Yep, I misspoke!
Man this was so interesting, I never realised how complex synths can be. How do you afford all this equipment??
Josh Hazelden thanks! a day job (gasp) and some fairly regular gigging! ☺️
(Drug dealer)
Epic last Name! You know what it translate into englisch?
Netztherapie haha thanks, I believe noble man, so time to get my fiefdom in order 😎
Thom uses a prophet 6 now. He purchased it in 2018. Staircase was his Prophet 08 "Performance Edition" keyboard. You nailed it with that rev2! I was able to catch a glimpse of the P6 whenI saw him live this year. Here's a glimpse from the web: 66.media.tumblr.com/79eb5bfae0797014526749a4af123b3d/tumblr_inline_pj2gqkq9U01t9wpfo_500.png
Station 2Station yep, that’s his main synth for his solo stuff now! But he still trots out the ‘08 for Radiohead gigs. Both amazing instruments, such lush sounds.
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Station 2Station thanks so much! Bowie fan also? 😉
@@JoeEdelmann3 Good stuff.
would be useful if we could hear your synth, its super quiet in places compared to the voice. Nice work though
Sorry for asking but what are the chords you play in staircase
No worries! I used The King of Gear’s transcription! thekingofgear.com/post/80097193327
midlake 1st album synth sounds please
wait where's motion picture soundtrack?
Well, technically not a synth sound, but you can get close with one! In me and Takas cover I used the Arturia Vox Continental organ plug-in to get close to Thoms live sound.