I recently was watching videos comparing languages, I was amazed by the similarities b/n Assyrian aramaic and Ge'ez(the root of all Ethiopic languages) which is the official language of Ancient Aksum and I assumed that Ge'ez may trace back to the time of Babylon. If you compare this to Languages side by side mainly with old script like bible it's like one language with different dialect.
Tenayistilin. Australian person here. I'm jumping in just to say I lived in the Tana Hayk Gonder area for more than ten years, and I'm kind of excited to hear you speak of these things. I'm not an academic or professional NGO, the mention of historical places and people - gosh . Yes I remember Shoa Bakery in Addis An Australian friend of mine married a Gurage woman. She didn't really want to live in Amhara, but that was where his work was. So they shuttled back and forth between his work and her family. As for Oromo, I lived in Asella for 18 months and found it strange that the local languages were written in Latin alphabet. Though you did see Arabic script written underneath quite often. As a foreigner you couldn't quite tell at first whether you were talking to an Amharic an Arabic a Gurage and maybe it didn't matter to you, but it sure mattered to them. Even so, I knew of several instances where Muslim and Christians were married and their marriage was accepted by the community generally. I was told by someone in Amhara that you can BECOME Amhara by learning the language and following the precepts of the Tewahado Church. But let's be real - that doesn't mean you have entry to higher strata of the community. My status was ignorant foreigner, and though I had some bad experiences, I had more experience of real kindness and generosity than I deserved. Tana Hayk - Abay - Debre Tabor - Gonder is a very, very special part of the world. I am blessed to have been there. Thanks guys for reminding me.
Malphono: As you know, I hadn't been listening to the podcast in a while (due to my particular technological restrictions but certainly not due to any disinterest whatsoever). While I haven't yet finished this episode (I'm on the final portion in which the two of you seem to begin speaking about the Tewahedo people in LA), I just wanted to say that this dialogue between you two about language, ethnicity, geography, borders, and much else really gives me sustenance to pursue my own studies in these areas (of which I've been ignorant for most of my life)-more than hope, they relieve me of the feeling of isolation in knowing that I'm not crazy for being interested in these topics (I would often question whether I am falling into a useless esotericism or not, but through this conversation, I can see more apparently the utility of what I pursue). On another note, I wonder how Deacon Henok got into all of this (because he doesn't seem to call himself a "language guy"): while I receive a lot of my exposure through the internet (in its present form), I know that his journey started much earlier. Granted, even growing up in the Oriental Orthodox Church probably lends to a need for a multilingual background or ability (especially if one is taking a serious effort to understand the holy teachings).
Personally, I find the need to acquire expertise over the following languages (virtually all of which I am ignorant of but which I hope to acquire with the help of the Spirit Who hovered upon the holy disciples on the day of Pentecost): Malayalam, Syriac, Arabic, Persian (or whatever languages might be associated with the Persian empire), Tamil, Sanskrit, and any other associated languages (such as Mongolian)-the need for these particular languages emerges from my being one of the Syriac Orthodox or Jacobite people of the Coast of Malayalam (the Malaya Kara or Malankara)-but also Ge'ez, Armenian, and Coptic. Then, I understand that a science exists for language learning, but I feel as if the science cannot be intuited without perfecting at least one of these tongues first. I hope that the Lord Who intends Unity for His children (those who have ears to hear and eyes to see) teaches them (or reminds them of) the means to return to Eden as one people.
Great feedback. Deacon Henok's channel is linked on my community page if you want to explore that for more information on his own background. I would also say that I don't know if "perfecting" a language is required. Most of us speak English imperfectly and are capable of learning other languages. I'd suggest immersion is more valuable, in whatever capacity it may be.
I recently was watching videos comparing languages, I was amazed by the similarities b/n Assyrian aramaic and Ge'ez(the root of all Ethiopic languages) which is the official language of Ancient Aksum and I assumed that Ge'ez may trace back to the time of Babylon.
If you compare this to Languages side by side mainly with old script like bible it's like one language with different dialect.
Proud to be one of the three nerds that made it through this entire video 😆
Wonderfully entertaining conversation.
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Tenayistilin. Australian person here. I'm jumping in just to say I lived in the Tana Hayk Gonder area for more than ten years, and I'm kind of excited to hear you speak of these things. I'm not an academic or professional NGO, the mention of historical places and people - gosh . Yes I remember Shoa Bakery in Addis An Australian friend of mine married a Gurage woman. She didn't really want to live in Amhara, but that was where his work was. So they shuttled back and forth between his work and her family. As for Oromo, I lived in Asella for 18 months and found it strange that the local languages were written in Latin alphabet. Though you did see Arabic script written underneath quite often. As a foreigner you couldn't quite tell at first whether you were talking to an Amharic an Arabic a Gurage and maybe it didn't matter to you, but it sure mattered to them. Even so, I knew of several instances where Muslim and Christians were married and their marriage was accepted by the community generally. I was told by someone in Amhara that you can BECOME Amhara by learning the language and following the precepts of the Tewahado Church. But let's be real - that doesn't mean you have entry to higher strata of the community. My status was ignorant foreigner, and though I had some bad experiences, I had more experience of real kindness and generosity than I deserved. Tana Hayk - Abay - Debre Tabor - Gonder is a very, very special part of the world. I am blessed to have been there. Thanks guys for reminding me.
Thank you for that fantastic contribution.
Malphono:
As you know, I hadn't been listening to the podcast in a while (due to my particular technological restrictions but certainly not due to any disinterest whatsoever). While I haven't yet finished this episode (I'm on the final portion in which the two of you seem to begin speaking about the Tewahedo people in LA), I just wanted to say that this dialogue between you two about language, ethnicity, geography, borders, and much else really gives me sustenance to pursue my own studies in these areas (of which I've been ignorant for most of my life)-more than hope, they relieve me of the feeling of isolation in knowing that I'm not crazy for being interested in these topics (I would often question whether I am falling into a useless esotericism or not, but through this conversation, I can see more apparently the utility of what I pursue).
On another note, I wonder how Deacon Henok got into all of this (because he doesn't seem to call himself a "language guy"): while I receive a lot of my exposure through the internet (in its present form), I know that his journey started much earlier. Granted, even growing up in the Oriental Orthodox Church probably lends to a need for a multilingual background or ability (especially if one is taking a serious effort to understand the holy teachings).
Personally, I find the need to acquire expertise over the following languages (virtually all of which I am ignorant of but which I hope to acquire with the help of the Spirit Who hovered upon the holy disciples on the day of Pentecost): Malayalam, Syriac, Arabic, Persian (or whatever languages might be associated with the Persian empire), Tamil, Sanskrit, and any other associated languages (such as Mongolian)-the need for these particular languages emerges from my being one of the Syriac Orthodox or Jacobite people of the Coast of Malayalam (the Malaya Kara or Malankara)-but also Ge'ez, Armenian, and Coptic.
Then, I understand that a science exists for language learning, but I feel as if the science cannot be intuited without perfecting at least one of these tongues first.
I hope that the Lord Who intends Unity for His children (those who have ears to hear and eyes to see) teaches them (or reminds them of) the means to return to Eden as one people.
Great feedback. Deacon Henok's channel is linked on my community page if you want to explore that for more information on his own background. I would also say that I don't know if "perfecting" a language is required. Most of us speak English imperfectly and are capable of learning other languages. I'd suggest immersion is more valuable, in whatever capacity it may be.