Universal History: Extreme Ethiopia | with Richard Rohlin (Ethiopia #3)
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- This is my third and final Universal History discussion with Richard Rohlin on the topic of Ethiopia. Today we will look at several Ethiopian practices and how they ultimately manifest the two roles of Ethiopia as both the “container”, or the Ark, and the extreme. We discuss the importance of personhood in culture and the role of the saints, before we dive into different themes in Ethiopian tradition and hagiography that include a focus on the 9 Roman Saints we mentioned last time, the good thief, the saint as punisher, the scandalous aspect of salvation regarding cannibalism and the Eucharist, and much more. Enjoy.
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Watching this from Addis Ababa Ethiopia. This is truly a magical, beautiful land FULL of mystery and spiritual energy. Thanks for discussing Ethiopian history in such depth.
This is good apologetic fodder for people seeking to counter Protestant incursion into Ethiopia.
Have you heard song RoadToZion th-cam.com/video/hA2mSqHFjeM/w-d-xo.html
@@eldermillennial8330 just seen your comment. Can you please elaborate on what you mean? Genuinely interested I just don’t quite understand your point. Thanks.
Can you actually travel any of the Christian sites because of the war?
@@tarastymo3942 off course not, where in the world can you do that???
This series is one of the best of any podcast ever in the universe. Ever.
Ever.
Ever.
Ethiopia is the bible Israeliest ended
I’ve been a Christian in my mind for only a year. I was an atheist for years and was then agnostic. I’ve been researching a lot and orthodox is obviously the way to go. I had a feeling that’s what I would settle on. Its largely thanks to you and your way of looking at the world. There are a few Roman Catholic people I really really respect so I’ve been trying to find out which church I want to start attending. Now I need to find an Orthodox Church in my area because I just love listening to the way you think and see the world.
God bless.
God bless you buddy
Orthodox Christianity is the Truth and straight path to the Almighty God
Welcome
Love and respect peace to all humanity
May God bless your journey and may the saints, angles, and the mother of God protect you on the road.
@@ESPNOutofBounds Jesus is the only mediator between man and God.
@@justiceiria869
Did Solomon keep his mother in a cell, isolated from the affairs of his Court?
@@eldermillennial8330 can't you find that out by reading the bible.
Ethiopia and it's Christian history is just so addictive and Jonathan and Richard are not making it any better for me. So glad they added a third addition.
Go to a Sunday service and experience it. You will never want to leave.
More on Ethiopia that is not talked about much …
th-cam.com/video/Zo3XBg5bDtk/w-d-xo.html
Plus Russia
th-cam.com/video/M-iccFWxbPg/w-d-xo.html
It’s a good day when I see “Jonathan Pageau posted ---“ pop up on my phone screen.
Expect a lot more as I will try to make up for the slow summer. Loki video, Kanye video, interviews coming up soon...
Needed a video on Kanye AND Loki haha
@@MrRickkramer please do so. I'm very interested in hearing this as well.
@@MrRickkramer i will check it out! Thanks Rick!
I keep watching these conversations hoping I'll eventually understand them.
iv'e to listen to some video's 3 or 4 times.But as time goes on i have began to get a feel for patterns etc.I think if you know your Bible really well it might be easier.But now and again something makes complete sense without effort on my part.That said i don't think i could explain Jonathan Pageau to anyone. Nevertheless even when his explanations float over my head they just resonate truth.
Im Ethiopian and I don’t get most of it. From now on i have to pay attention when i attend church.
You guys are doing something great here , I wish the world knows more about my county , Ethiopia . Ethiopia doesn't only keep the ark of the covenant , she is also the covenant that keeps the ark , the holy cross and the holy grail .Thanks for all the great work you are doing .
I really love the Ethiopian Canon. I'll be honest, I really love the Ethiopian Church
AD 10th century Italian book in your Old Testament!? Okay I’m interested.
I swear for years I spent reading reading books and studying occult stuff trying to figure out what kind of pattern I was seeing and not able to figure out . Finding Orthodoxy and now this ongoing conversation, the LOS stuff, it’s like what I’ve looked for forever is finally starting to come into reality. Thanks for the great content.
Yes, I know exact what you mean.
Keep Rohlin, Rohlin, Rohlin!
God bless you brother Jonathan and all your friends whom you invite to discuss the Ethiopian Christianity and other wonderful Facts and wisdom of God in this world 🙏🙏🙏💙✝️
Keep doing the great work
May God keep showing you all the Truth you needed to see and share with the world
Mate you sound like a beautiful human being, God bless you and your family 💚✌️😇
@@Selu2023 That’s very kind and thoughtful of you Michael.
Amen amen amen
God bless you more
Thank you dear brother
May the Lord’s peace and blessings be upon you ✌️✝️🙏😊
@@iamchristian5735 Amen brother, and with you Dejen ✌️
The lessons I get from your videos are that I seriously need to pay attention to details and stop taking the role Ethiopia plays in the universal history as granted.
You guys are becoming my new obsession. The wisdom both of you have is beyond my imagination. It makes me grateful, to hear my Ethiopian history from foreigners in a non-biased yet respectful way. Keep up the good work!
Great conversation. Very insightful
These are the best podcasts ever. More Ethiopia!
This Ethiopian series has been fantastic! Thank you for your wealth of knowledge🙏 may God bless many through your research!
God bless you Jonathan! Glad to get notified of your broadcast.
So glad everyone is enjoying universal history as much as I am. Best series ever. Glory to God.
Some people talk about Tv series’ I’ve never seen and I just got excited about This notification.
I am completely into Rohlin-pageau, and Ethiopian role in universal history
While listening about ark replicas (1:05:51), wooden blocks at the end (that was for a moment called "a box") remembered feeling from childhood when while playing there was some special in boxes, in placing something inside the box.
And this remind me basic types of religiosity (heard it somewhere) - one is about being inside, in warm seclusion and another about being outside, about spaciousness, open space.
As a mother of 5 children I can tell you there is unequivocally no more loved plaything than an empty box. Preferably with a lid. They adore putting things in, taking them out again, carrying around or even hiding their collection of random treasures if the box is small, or even putting themselves in the box ( such as a cardboard box "fort" or even a large wooden toy box with a hinged lid that all of my young children would hide and play in when they were small enough to fit.)
There is even a sprawling "big box" store in the US called the Container Store which sells all manner of size and shape of organization containers which women (whom are ourselves vessels) in our country are obsessed with. It is a deeply resonant and meaningful pattern.
Great video, bringing me closer and closer to orthodoxy each video. But I always remind myself of my own heritage, I am a Lebanese maronite and each detail of it blows my mind.
When I started this series I was so confused.. why anyone would be interested in Ethiopia??.. but now, when for example they said they were going to get an actual Ethiopian Christian on a future episode, I’m clapping my hands and cheering out aloud with child like excitement.
U said "Why anyone would be interested in Ethiopia?? %😠😠😠
u must one of those biased English or American guys who have no idea about universal truth or history..besides hearing the biased and false western media.
From old to new testament, Ethiopia is mentioned for a reason.
To begin with...Hope u know that Mose's wife was Ethiopian.
The first country mentioned in the Bible in the new Testament.... The first convert to Christianity was Ethiopian( book of acts " Philip was lead by holy spirit to baptize the Ethiopian )... We don't accept it by missionaries who used religion for political purposes.
That Ethiopian guy went to Jerusalem for worshiping.
I could say more... but...
You guys are teaching me so much. Praise God for the beauty in the cultural liturgy that truly makes Christianity THE worldwide religion.
God bless you both, thank you!
Thanks gentlemen for sharing your knowledge. Please continue series, I love y’all’s universal history talks so much. It adds so much to my faith experience. Thank you 🙏
1:13:05 Dcn Henok Elias is an Ethiopian Deacon active on TH-cam.
Perhaps after Ethiopia, an episode or 2 on Armenia and Gregory the Illuminator would be a nice addition to this series.
It would be interesting hearing an integration of Universal History with the events of the western European reformation. I was hoping that he would be touched on, but there's the Ethiopian Deacon Michael who spent time with Luther and affirmed the teachings of the Augsburg Confession then as far as I can tell disappears back into wherever he came from. That's all I've been able to find about this 'extreme Ethiopian' who aided those in the north trying to correct Roman abuses, leading within the Lutheran tradition to arguably a tradition of over correcting.
But lives of saints are good too. Thanks for your work and this spotlight on a people who've been Christian longer than most peoples have been peoples.
An African scholar in Germany would have been a big deal just for the oddity of it, no doubt being the first black man they had seen, yet I’ve never heard of that happening. Furthermore, monastic vows are VERY important to Ethiopians, so I have trouble imagining one having any respect for Luther after flagrantly violating his own, which he made in the name of Saint Ann, whose Combined feast with her Husband, Jochaim, is today.
@@eldermillennial8330 fair enough but it's part of 'lutheran' history. You can doubt it like those who doubt the lives of the martyrs if you wish.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_the_Deacon
@@j.g.4942this is very interesting. Which credo was Michael the Deacon referring to?
I have no words but amazed how you guys understand how eastern philosophy of religions compares to western philosophy! U guys really understand how orthodox teaching
I truly believe that I could forever continue to sift through this Rabbit Hole of Universal History.
Thanks to the both you, I sincerely mean it!
Finally i want to say you guys you are so blessed and you will see more amazing things in the world and In Ethiopia.you speaking and thoughts from the holy spirit God 💚💛❤️✝️✝️✝️
My favourite series Thank you both!
You see Ethiopia is a living mesuim for believing in one God. It also the root not a brunches. May God bless & protect you all . Excellent introduction of the Ethiopian orthodox tewahido church in short. Thanks D/N Henok
Too fascinating! And edifying. I’m Orthodox but have been paying some attention to Catholic “trads” which means I’ve been running into Fatima material. The idea of the period of Christianization before the End is similar “the triumph of the Immaculate Heart.” It’d be interesting hear some universal history “analysis” of Fatima. That said, for obvious reasons, I wouldn’t expect it!
To me Fatima is the distraction that has brought about the demise of the church of the West. There is a lot demonic in its darkness and complete absence of the Praise of God. It has done nothing but divide the Catholic world: those who like the Fatima trimmings on the rosary prayers and those who don't, those who think the third secret is known and those who don't, those who question whether the consecration of Russia has happened or not.... I could go on .... it helped unbalance Catholic devotion into purely intercessory prayer to a distant God who needs placating......... oh come on........ what is Christian about that!!!?
Fatima isn’t a message for Catholics, it’s a message for the whole world 🌎 😊🙏🏻❤️🕊
I love this series of Universal History. Thanks for all your good work putting this together.
'... I helped unload it dude..' 😍. Pls unload more esp about the nine saints. JP n RR , truly enlightening us in this world gone wonky.
This is amazing. Keep going!
Okay. Here's a story my mom told me. There were actually two Arcs that King Solomon had. One of that of Saint Mary's and the other was Saint Michael's. So Solomon wanted to give King Menelik I the Saint Michael Arc but the clergymen, I think, who were going back from Israel to Menelik.'s Country upon Solomon's orders actually switch the clothes covering the Arcs and take Saint Mary's Arc. In the story Solomon actually follows them but by then they were long gone. I may have to ask her for the ending though cuz I forgot whether he reaches them and God tells him to let them go or he doesn't reach them at all.
Loved all these about Ethiopia. Keep on!
51:58 on the dog head guardians… I was immediately reminded of the hound in game of thrones!
More episodes of this, just they go further into detail on last week's topic, Infinitely until we all know everything about a very small fact.
Thank you for this! It would be awesome to see the Wichita talk online somehow later for us residing in other continents !!
This three points how you could summarise Ethiopia. 1. Preservation of knowledge 2. Worship of God 3. Searching for wisdom
Regarding America's Founding Dathers, there's also a statue of George Washington (George Washington Enthroned) based on the Zeus Olympios of late antiquity, as well as the Apotheosis of Washington on the Capitol Building rotunda which depicts him as King of the Gods. Additionally, the apocryphal Vision of George Washington where he's visited by an angel and shown the future of the USA in an apocalyptic vision.
My mind was blown when I looked up the Apotheosis of Washington and saw how mythical even this modern country is. It looks like the USA may very well have continuity with the universal history.
@@maxpitchkites everyone does. It's universal, after all
Trippy
Really love this Universal History :)
Yes yes I happened to come on the channel hoping to see this
Thank you so much Jonathan, One love
When is the Rohlin-Pageau Ethiopia tour?
Sign me up!
And over on your left you’ll see a lake filled with mosters
@@christophermihaly7029giant monsters
Love the image of the mystic contemplating the pearl of great price. Beautiful form.
When lilacs last in the dooryard bloom’d,
And the great star early droop’d in the western sky in the night,
I mourn’d, and yet shall mourn with ever-returning spring.
Amazing subseries and I'm glad I learned a lot. Thanks for both of you to have done that. When is the Universal History episode on kingship with me to tag along?
I just love these videos!🧡
@Richard: in the Western Church, the martyrology is read liturgically at Prime (which is traditionally sung/said after Matins and Lauds) - at least that's what I've gleaned from visiting old rite (pre 70s "reform") Benedictines and also Marian Franciscans. But for the rest of the Church, I don't know. Guess what? Prime was taken *out* of the Office/Hours in the 70s-ish...! Enough said.
Nowadays often the lives of saints are read at communal meals of religious orders, too, which is not really liturgical per se, but significant.
I just wanted to say that RELIGION comes from "re-ligare" which means "to bind strongly" saying that something is Religious simply means that it makes us come together, it binds in a powerful way. The reason why the word religare was used to described sacred meeting activities, sacred assambly, it's because nothing binds people more strongly than whats beyond their individuality, thus get united by some deity, or some activity related to God or to some gods. Anything that binds people can be called religious if it binds people strongly, now that religion brings forth some natural rituals that flow from it. If you get binded by business and money then you will develop some ritualistic behaviors around that, some become like a liturgy. Anything that is placed above you s bigger than you and worthy of worship brings about a religion.
it comes from the latin religio. the romans had a qualitative dichotomy of superstitio vs religio.
@@bigolboomerbelly4348 Just as you can find etymology of english words you can also find the roots of Latin words. Religio or religare has roots "re" gives strength or repetitiveness to something, every word with Re in front of it has that quality in many languages still and it comes from the latin. ligio has the root "ligare" which means to link or bind. Superstitionis also has roots and etymology to it "super" above, the second part is made of the word "stare" to be somewhere, and "tion" which means action. They were used in specific context due to the nature of those words and the nature of the activities. Superstitio simply means that people something is added on top of what already is, that's why until today we call superstitious people to those who give power to certain things or actions above the natural capabilities of those things, people that add on top of things more to what thing actually are.
@@irodjetson You sound like a parrot.
@@Takkforkniven you read me like one, letters don't make sounds
@@irodjetson Stop.
Love this! Did they ever make an episode of the Celtic hagiography? Thank you Jonathan and Richard ❤️
The story behind the one with the bird is that they were in deep prayer and the devil decides to poke their eye so they are distracted. It doesn't work and they continue to pray. And then God restores their eye sight.
So in the conquest of Mexico, the flag which the conquistadores brought was the so called Spanish "St.Andrew's cross" which makes a lot of sense when one sees how they converted first the Tlaxcallan people (which were cannibals) and made them fight against the Aztec in Mexico-Tenochtitlan (which also were cannibals). All of this is insane, I swear. Great symbolic insight into all these patterns. Also, I remember hearing from some peasant old man in rural southern Mexico an explanation about a truck driver which didn't wanted to stay for the celebration of the local patron saint, and because of that the saint punished him and made one of his truck's wheels fall off on the road and caused a huge crash. We couldn't cross for hours because of that crash btw.
I was orthodox but God open my eyes Glory to the King
This is amazing.
It's great to see you bringing insights from the margins into the centre. I don't understand how you are using the term 'principalities'. Could you explain, please?
Such good stuff!
There's an Ethiopian Orthodox guy at my work that drinks his tea with a teaspoon, just slurping in the whole thing, spoon by spoon, so I have a certain bias against Ethiopia. The daily slurpfest is slowly wearing me down.
Let it be your hair shirt.
Well that just sums up their entire culture doesn't it? lol.
Lol! I used to do that as a kid bc I was afraid of burning my mouth with the hot tea so I just slowly drank it spoon by spoon until it got cold enough for me to drink it normally
Lol:)
*Slurp*
Two things about Gerima
1. He was the son of Roman Emperor called Mesfianos(a story from the monastery he built in Tigray,Ethiopia)
2. He has connection with the story if Garamatines & the ancient city Gerima in Libya
Brilliant!!!
Thanks
I had learned very much from this series of videos. I have been to the Lincoln Wario memorial and did not know about rubbing his nose. So can you recommend books to read about Ethiopia?
When historians find out that their methods have only ended up peripheralizing this country in global history, they will eat crow. Ethiopia existed before any other country, even before ancient Egypt and Mesopotamia, among others. It won't be long before a thicket of evidence is shown to demonstrate that ancient Egypt was founded by Abyssinians (Ethiopian Highlanders), and the spiritual tradition among other fields passed to the nations from Egypt. This includes the scriptures, regardless of canon and apocrypha.
Ok, there's a point in this video when Jonathan says that his tradition's (Eastern Orthodox?) eschatology says that the final Emperor will come from Ethiopia just before the end of the world? I have never heard of this. Where do I learn more?
Text of Pseudo-Methodius
@@alem8100 thank you for this information!
The Papal Swiss guard. That's the same pattern of the dog headed men. Very interesting.
Good video
"I believe that to be 'literally' true..." I'm sorry. I just had an image of lots of little atlases holding up the world... literally... :) I'm excited to hear Richard talk about hagiography.
The Saint who got walled off after being accused of not keeping thr fast, after he said something like "his solution was to make himself a secret", could the wall be acting like a veil separating the Saint from his accusers in a sort of micro pattern of the way the ark was separated from Israel by a veil?
I suspect it's related to falling off the ladder. Jonathan often says Christ fills the hierarchy. Assuming a saint is on a certain rung, the accuser is trying to pull him down. If the saint responds he gets pulled down. By not responding, by locking himself up, the saint stays on the ladder, but, he can no longer climb higher.
I searched for a while and couldn't find anything that suggests the word culture comes from a latin word that means "veneration around a common point" Can you send your sources?
You should talk to dr zebene lema he is a priest at a church in verginia
Please consider asking Deacon Henok Elias, who is a fellow TH-camr at the Philosophy of Art and Science channel, on the show. I've thought he says a lot of great things.
Already in the calendar for a convo.
Ethiopians faught and defeated Italian colonialists at the battle of Adwa on the very day they commemorate martrydom of Saint George. King Minilik the 4th who is a distant descendant of Minilik the first who who was the son of King Solomon and Queen Sheba/Saba was their leading the war from the head. Surprisingly, king Minilik the 4th took repelica of the original Ark of covenant with him to the war, and this replica was named after St.George in his memmory. Ethiopians march forward holding this repelica of ark of covenant and fighted Italians and won the battle. There were Italians soldiers who claimed to have seen a man on horse with frieghtening devine appearance holding a glowing sword and fighting the battle of Ethiopians. Who was he? According to Ethiopians he was St.George because the day of the battle was on the same day when they celebrate mrtrydom St.Gearge by holding the the replica of the ark of covenant which was named after St.George. Note. the replica itself is the Sit of God but only named St George Tabot in memmory of his martrydom. Anyway Ethiopians have just reasons which are biblical to venerate and comemmorate saints. Check how King Minilik the 4th called Ethiopians to the war how he organized them, what he and his wife and other chiefs did at the battle. In each and every steps taken by the king, God has a great place.
I enjoy the whiplash between agreeing, being intrigued, and wanting to yell at the heresy (particularly when Mary comes up).
The story of the cannibal remains me of Grusjenkas onion in the Brothers Karamazov.
Great.
Richard can you record your talk in witchita? It sounds great!
My friends are now convinced I'm part Ethiopian.
Maybe do one episode for Brazil, please?
They could do a New World thing
"kiddan" translated into English is, "covenant"
Tabot just means Arc, as in like the semitic word Teivah.
Orthodox Christian convert from Springfield, IL. So weird hearing them talk about our local landmark. Haha.
does anyone have a link to St Yared's poem about the mother of God that Richard mentions? can't seem to find anything
The Ethiopian saint, King Caleb is a saint in the chalcedonian and the Ethiopian church, but he died after chalcedon. Can you find out how that happened, that his a saint in both churches? Even after the schism. I read his story both in the Prologue of Ohrid and the Ethiopian Synaxarium.
Our fathers say, the word of God written by his hand (the ten commandments) in the Arc of the Covenant is the symbolism of Christ being in Saint Mary's womb and so the Arc is the symbolism of Saint Mart.
Could you do a video on Sicily, I've always seen it as the eithiopia of Europe. The symbol of sicily is Medusas head. Sicilians are not quite north African, not European. Giants in ancient Greece were said to live there. Sicilians have always been conquered and always revolted. Their architecture is a very Hybrid like the people, Norman, arabic and byzantine
😂😂😂😂😂
Speaking of saint Lincoln, it’s written he’s incorrupt. I think mother Brigid or Paula Fricke wrote a paper on it.
7:20 or Uncle Sam… or Lady Liberty… what’s your point
The nine saints story should be turned into an anime. Lol
Richard. It's time for a channel
What’s sad’s Ethiopian ancient scriptures stollen and it’s all over the world. Ethiopian researchers are not allowed In some of this universities. One of them is German catholic university doesn’t even allow you to do research. It’s tragic. USA and England and Austria and Italy…etc some of the scriptures hundreds of them to exist;(
Tedros Adhanom, director of the World Helath Organization is an Ethiopian. I wonder how this relates to the End Times. Symbolism Happens.
What would he have to do with End Times?
Are the dogfaces related in any way to the dogface pony soldier?
I can sent you the 9 sant and there is a holy place in north Ethiopia tigeray region abun yemata monstary (አቡነ የማታ ገዳም)
I think the saint accused of not fasting is about something like he knows that man cannot judge man, only God can. And he also knows that his physical being is just a vessel, and that man will fulfill his will. The accuser must have pulled this out of nowhere, and lied, the saint must have known that such outstanding behavior is most likely part of an agenda. So rather than have man judge him, and rather have this ‘enemy’ of sorts follow through with his agenda and act out more sins, and rather than act like his physicality is more important, he chose to show his accuser mercy and never let this reach him and spends the rest of his days in his mind in the company of God. I think maybe the walls big enough just for his body symbolizes the body. And maybe he did eat when he was to fast, and he chose this repentance. The symbolism fits there too that while his spirit is attuned to God, he is still merely man and a prisoner to the body and earthly demands and desires. And also that he used to be royalty in a great spacious palace, excessive to his being, with indulgence at the hand of servants. It could have been his way of showing God he has truly committed himself in spite of how he has lived.
Why do you call the Nine Saints Roman? They are known to hail from Asia Minor, Syria, and Egypt and no where have they identified as Roman.
Who knows how is JORDAN Peterson’s health, since he doesn’t record videos since May… and I can’t find a thing on the web about it
He is doing fine.