Something a bit different from us: a brand-wide hybrid megatest. What other comparisons would you like to see? (And sorry about the cicadas. That is the noise of Australia sometimes!)
It would have been nice to compare the hybrid vs non-hybrid versions in terms of price and how many km it takes for the hybrid version to break even. And also the cost of replacing the batteries (and how long they last).
Something we can consider for the future. As for the cost of battery replacement (noting they are warranted to 5 years as standard, and warranted to 10 years if you get an annual checkup), that's not really possible - it wouldn't cost you anything in that period, and we can't accurately predict where battery prices will be in 2033.
Thank you! I was after a RAV hybrid but have been looking at a Kluger due to the wait times. Corolla Cross is now an option…but either way, this has come at the right time! Thank you 💗💗
Thank you for this comprehensive comparison. I have a 2022 RAV4 Cruiser AWD hybrid and Corolla Cross Atmos AWD hybrid. I find the Atmos much more practical as I live near the city and streets are narrow. The Cruiser has slightly more space but we find the Atmos much more agile and functional for daily use. The auto-park is an added bonus if a family member does not reverse parallel park well!
I’ve got the SL top of the line 2023 Camry Hybrid and I love it ! Very smooth and refined with the power train having plenty of torque for traffic light squirts and overtaking power. I average 800km to a 50 ltr tank. Yet it’s a big roomy car. It’s marvellous !
Excellent video guys, well done. Having driven all of them myself over the last few years apart from the new Corolla Cross, I'd broadly agree with everything you said. I have a Yaris Hybrid and love it. Glad to see its rear drum brakes holding their own!!
Yes ! I have a Camry Ascent Sport Hybrid and it is the best value for money and ride and economy car in the market. Will likely buy the next Camry upgrade when it comes in 2024
Toyota don’t get enough credit for their mature hybrid tech, which provides a huge step change reduction in fuel consumption compared to conventional ICE-powered cars, for a relatively modest additional cost, while using a fraction of the battery components of a plug-in hybrid or BEV. In a big country like Australia with an immature recharging network, Toyota’s hybrid range just hits the sweet spot for alot of people who want a car that can take them on any paved road or well maintained dirt / gravel road accessible for 2WD vehicles, and without any range anxiety. We can’t pretend that BEVs are the entire answer to driving down CO2 emissions from vehicle use. For me personally, I was in the market for an SUV early in 2023, and the Rav4 Cruiser Hybrid was in the mix, but after 2 local Toyota dealers in Sydney warned me of 2 year + wait times, I ended up buying an Outback XT instead. Toyota’s inability to supply the demand for their hybrids is the limiting factor for them selling more cars in Australia.
I do think that’s true in some ways and full hybrids continue to allow many people to seriously cut their emissions (and fuel budget). We credit this as much as we should, including with this vid! That said, it’s also fair to say that Toyota needs to step up its BEV game, because there is a (growing) slice of buyers for whom a BEV is suitable and can be charged cleanly.
It would be true if Toyota can make more Hybrid cars, or better yet replace majority of their ICE with Hybrid. As it stands though, Toyota hybrid only represents around 10-15% of Toyota total production worldwide. It would be good if you can buy a Toyota Hybrid car, but like you said you can't. Meanwhile both Tesla and BYD BEVs are readily available. And don't get me wrong, we have bpth a 2021 RAV4 GXL Hybrid AWD and BYD Atto 3 ER. BYD is fast becoming the Toyota of BEV with affordable but decent quality offering.
A very well thought-out and methodically executed test. Thanks a bunch, guys. If I'm not mistaken, Camry and RAV4 share the same engine and yet the fuel grades required are different: 95 for Camry vs 91 for RAV4. I'm wondering if you could kindly share your insights regarding the difference?
Weird - I asked TOYOTA & got a reply which didn't make sense. I asked a mechanic & he had no idea, particularly as the RAV4 was both heavier & in some, AWD. The same engine in USA & Japan uses 91 RON in Camry.
How about a comparison of all hybrids? I did a recent shop around for hybrids and was really disappointed by the interiors of all the Toyotas - they all felt they could really do with a major update, even the new Corolla Cross. And for similar money, competitors are building cars that really make you feel like you're driving a nice car.
Great comparison guys. Toyota’s popularity is obvious given that no car presents the combined appeal of Toyota’s badge mixed with fuel economy and very handsome vehicles. The Corolla Cross is quite a handsome vehicle in GXL guise as well.
I just cant believe a corolla cross awd hybrid costs as much as my rav4 hybrid driveaway back in 2019 😂 was thinking of downsizing...not at that price!
I don't understand how you did get so low fuel consumption on Camry. I had Camry for one week and my fuel consumption was 6 L and plus needs premium fuel ?
I think the wheels were well and truly greased already by enormous demand - which we are responding to with a buyer's guide. As much as we're flattered, Chasing Cars isn't actually behind the long-term popularity of Toyota.
All time fav Camry Hybrid. Bought new Haval h6 ultra hybrid but selling with heavy loss and cant wait to get camry again. Personally for this camry has no match in with any brand of car in market. I mean last camry which i drove was near 900000 km and still running. I mean i swear to god, driven, Mercedes, bmw, haval, mg, Peugeot, guys believe me interms of reliability and smooth drive all these brand can't even touch camry. Can't expalin in words what camry is
A good general rule is that 91 is about 10% cheaper than 95, but 5% worse range, in cars that can adjust to both. I run 91 all the time in my cars (one of which is a hybrid) and give them a tank of 98 every now and then to clean any residues. Edit: and I would always choose a 91 compatible car if I could!
@@CampbellSimpson Does Australia have engineering detergent standards like "Top Tier" in the US? If so, and if the fuel met this standard, there is no need to run a higher octane to help clean the fuel system.
We fuel to the second ‘click’ to avoid that issue. The number is doable-our long-term Yaris Cross Hybrid GXL delivered lifetime fuel economy of 3.8L/100km, and that car was not driven for frugality. It saw quite a bit of assertive driving and testing too.
The passenger cars aren't spacious enough and the SUVs are too expensive.....so I bought a Corolla Fielder WAGON. It's cheap, unlike the Corolla Cross.
Those fuel economy numbers look very low, almost too low. I have a 22 RAV4 (AWD) hybrid and after a year of ownership I really have to nany it to get 5.2/5.3L per 100kms. Getting 4.7L/100 would have to be for that single test/trip. I don't think that'd be a consistent result over long term use.
How you personally drive is a variable we can't control. We performed a consistent loop that all the vehicles drove in the same conditions. We're simply presenting the results of our loop.
@chasingcars I'm not saying the numbers reported were under cooked, if anything my AWD would be slightly thirstier than the 2wd you tested. All I'm saying is long term use results would vary from a single trip (based on various driving conditions, fuel type, number of passengers). One trip I had using 98 fuel i got 4.3L/kms, but that's certainly not my average over a year with local and highway driving running on no less than 95 fuel, driving conservatively on eco mode.
It’s a relieving pass mark (“Ps get degrees 😏” energy) that Toyota offer so many hybrids, but as a former Toyota guy, I’m very disappointed at their non existent battery electric options. They’re offering cutting edge tech from 20 years ago across the range. I moved from Toyota to Subaru, now to Tesla and BYD. Both Tesla and BYD make Japan’s offerings look like the script for an Adam Sander movie. (Because like Adam Sander, he’s supposed to be funny, and was popular 20 years ago)
Did you miss 2:10? That may help you. This is our own independent cross-brand test. It isn’t a comparison of the Honda Civic. Very pleasant car to drive that. Also a very expensive one.
You’ve got it the wrong way around. This is a fully independent video that is responsive to what people are demanding in droves, not a paid placement (which we don’t ever do - subscribers know this - but would normally be used by others to drum up demand in a slow selling product)
Funny how you guys can get every Hybrid model sent to you, yet customers have to wait 2 years for a RAV4 Hybrid. Cynical marketing exercise from Toyota to try to keep interest in the brand up. Total fail video.
Something a bit different from us: a brand-wide hybrid megatest. What other comparisons would you like to see? (And sorry about the cicadas. That is the noise of Australia sometimes!)
It would have been nice to compare the hybrid vs non-hybrid versions in terms of price and how many km it takes for the hybrid version to break even. And also the cost of replacing the batteries (and how long they last).
Something we can consider for the future. As for the cost of battery replacement (noting they are warranted to 5 years as standard, and warranted to 10 years if you get an annual checkup), that's not really possible - it wouldn't cost you anything in that period, and we can't accurately predict where battery prices will be in 2033.
Thank you! I was after a RAV hybrid but have been looking at a Kluger due to the wait times. Corolla Cross is now an option…but either way, this has come at the right time! Thank you 💗💗
Please do a comparison with Kia/Hyundai hybrids and Honda CR-V hybrid
@@chasingcars why there is no prius
Thank you for this comprehensive comparison.
I have a 2022 RAV4 Cruiser AWD hybrid and Corolla Cross Atmos AWD hybrid. I find the Atmos much more practical as I live near the city and streets are narrow. The Cruiser has slightly more space but we find the Atmos much more agile and functional for daily use. The auto-park is an added bonus if a family member does not reverse parallel park well!
I’ve got the SL top of the line 2023 Camry Hybrid and I love it ! Very smooth and refined with the power train having plenty of torque for traffic light squirts and overtaking power. I average 800km to a 50 ltr tank. Yet it’s a big roomy car. It’s marvellous !
Excellent video guys, well done. Having driven all of them myself over the last few years apart from the new Corolla Cross, I'd broadly agree with everything you said. I have a Yaris Hybrid and love it. Glad to see its rear drum brakes holding their own!!
Thank you!
Good and innovative concept. Well done Chasing Cars.
Thank you.
Yes ! I have a Camry Ascent Sport Hybrid and it is the best value for money and ride and economy car in the market. Will likely buy the next Camry upgrade when it comes in 2024
Good choice!
I have recently purchased a hybrid ZR Yaris. I am loving it so far. Nice to drive and only 3.2l/100km it is perfect for my commute to work.
Toyota don’t get enough credit for their mature hybrid tech, which provides a huge step change reduction in fuel consumption compared to conventional ICE-powered cars, for a relatively modest additional cost, while using a fraction of the battery components of a plug-in hybrid or BEV.
In a big country like Australia with an immature recharging network, Toyota’s hybrid range just hits the sweet spot for alot of people who want a car that can take them on any paved road or well maintained dirt / gravel road accessible for 2WD vehicles, and without any range anxiety.
We can’t pretend that BEVs are the entire answer to driving down CO2 emissions from vehicle use.
For me personally, I was in the market for an SUV early in 2023, and the Rav4 Cruiser Hybrid was in the mix, but after 2 local Toyota dealers in Sydney warned me of 2 year + wait times, I ended up buying an Outback XT instead. Toyota’s inability to supply the demand for their hybrids is the limiting factor for them selling more cars in Australia.
I do think that’s true in some ways and full hybrids continue to allow many people to seriously cut their emissions (and fuel budget). We credit this as much as we should, including with this vid! That said, it’s also fair to say that Toyota needs to step up its BEV game, because there is a (growing) slice of buyers for whom a BEV is suitable and can be charged cleanly.
It would be true if Toyota can make more Hybrid cars, or better yet replace majority of their ICE with Hybrid. As it stands though, Toyota hybrid only represents around 10-15% of Toyota total production worldwide. It would be good if you can buy a Toyota Hybrid car, but like you said you can't. Meanwhile both Tesla and BYD BEVs are readily available.
And don't get me wrong, we have bpth a 2021 RAV4 GXL Hybrid AWD and BYD Atto 3 ER. BYD is fast becoming the Toyota of BEV with affordable but decent quality offering.
A very well thought-out and methodically executed test. Thanks a bunch, guys. If I'm not mistaken, Camry and RAV4 share the same engine and yet the fuel grades required are different: 95 for Camry vs 91 for RAV4. I'm wondering if you could kindly share your insights regarding the difference?
Weird - I asked TOYOTA & got a reply which didn't make sense.
I asked a mechanic & he had no idea, particularly as the RAV4 was both heavier & in some, AWD.
The same engine in USA & Japan uses 91 RON in Camry.
Compression ratio perhaps? Same engine but are the pistons the same?
Proud Corolla Cross owner here 🎉
Yeah they’re great. Very happy with mine!
Excellent review. I hope you get more views, you certainly deserve them with excellent content like this!
Appreciate the hard work!! I can imagine how much of homework must have been done behind this👏
To me RAV4 , Corolla and Camry really worth the money to spend on 👌
How about a comparison of all hybrids? I did a recent shop around for hybrids and was really disappointed by the interiors of all the Toyotas - they all felt they could really do with a major update, even the new Corolla Cross. And for similar money, competitors are building cars that really make you feel like you're driving a nice car.
I have the Corolla Cross Atmos Hybrid AWD and it is perfection. Cool to drive around Gold Coast and The Northern Rivers.
Fantastic review and stats…thank you
Thanks for watching.
I've ordered a Corolla Cross Atmos hybrid. After 11 months wait its been manufactured and is awaiting shipping.
The Rav4 plug in hybrid/Prime is the one to have and best overall IMO.
Not sold in Australia unfortunately.
Huge markups at the dealers near me.
Great comparison guys. Toyota’s popularity is obvious given that no car presents the combined appeal of Toyota’s badge mixed with fuel economy and very handsome vehicles. The Corolla Cross is quite a handsome vehicle in GXL guise as well.
Thank you.
I just cant believe a corolla cross awd hybrid costs as much as my rav4 hybrid driveaway back in 2019 😂 was thinking of downsizing...not at that price!
Good review guy’s, I still love the Rav 4 though. The wait time is a pain 18 Months, I have ordered mine it’s due Xmas 2024.
Good to see my Toyota Corolla Cross coming top. I’m next in-line at my dealership now, so about 2 months away.
Picked up mine a month ago after waiting 7 months. Really happy with it so worth the wait!
@@pjb5594 @nozzieracing3444 what engine/version did you guys buy? and is it FWD or AWD?
@@HaNeves Atmos FWD hybrid.
Nice review! My SX Camry hybrid liquid Mercury colour is now in the water after 17 months waiting. Hence, cancelled my Tesla MY
I ve just bought a Yaris Cross 2024 MHEV. 3,4 l/100 km
Best reviews ever
Thanks, very kind!
I don't understand how you did get so low fuel consumption on Camry. I had Camry for one week and my fuel consumption was 6 L and plus needs premium fuel ?
we have a 2022 camry ascent sport hybrid and get about 4.5 all the time
While it isn’t paid content it’s still a giant free Toyota advertisement which no doubt will help grease the wheels with the big T in the future.
I think the wheels were well and truly greased already by enormous demand - which we are responding to with a buyer's guide. As much as we're flattered, Chasing Cars isn't actually behind the long-term popularity of Toyota.
I wish all of these models were available in Canada! I'm surprised they did not include the Prius in the comparison.
Prius is not available in Australia unfortunately
The one you can get delivered in under 18 months from order!
corolla hatch more fuel consumption than advertised?! goddamn... Really impressed by the yaris though
I was not expecting the fuel savings to be better on corolla cross than on hatch/sedan.
Was that the 2.0l engine?
Totally agree.
Wish they would add the Prius, Highlander, Alphard and Zenix in their next comparison of Toyota Hybrids.
A total doppelganger for my 2003 Outback spotted at 12:26! lol
KIA really need to bring their hybrid cars to our market
Why does Toyota specify 91 octane for the Rav4 and 95 octane for the Camry if both have the same A25A-FXS engine (and the same P710 transaxle)?
All time fav Camry Hybrid. Bought new Haval h6 ultra hybrid but selling with heavy loss and cant wait to get camry again. Personally for this camry has no match in with any brand of car in market. I mean last camry which i drove was near 900000 km and still running. I mean i swear to god, driven, Mercedes, bmw, haval, mg, Peugeot, guys believe me interms of reliability and smooth drive all these brand can't even touch camry. Can't expalin in words what camry is
The Corolla and Ch-r also come with more potent 2.0 hybrid powertrains..
Shame we don't get the new Prius.
Yeah, it looks cool.
Can you do a Lexus Hybrid comparison?
Did someone talk about 91 octane vs 95 that could be something of consideration in terms of running costs ?
A good general rule is that 91 is about 10% cheaper than 95, but 5% worse range, in cars that can adjust to both. I run 91 all the time in my cars (one of which is a hybrid) and give them a tank of 98 every now and then to clean any residues.
Edit: and I would always choose a 91 compatible car if I could!
@@CampbellSimpson Does Australia have engineering detergent standards like "Top Tier" in the US? If so, and if the fuel met this standard, there is no need to run a higher octane to help clean the fuel system.
Yaris Cross only consumed 2.69l/100km !!! just wow
It's the small Yaris! Not the crossover one.
Extraordinary to the point that I'm suspicious that the fuel pump clicked off early on the second fill.
That almost matches an EV for energy costs!
We fuel to the second ‘click’ to avoid that issue. The number is doable-our long-term Yaris Cross Hybrid GXL delivered lifetime fuel economy of 3.8L/100km, and that car was not driven for frugality. It saw quite a bit of assertive driving and testing too.
The passenger cars aren't spacious enough and the SUVs are too expensive.....so I bought a Corolla Fielder WAGON. It's cheap, unlike the Corolla Cross.
Just think, there is now an even longer Kluger in the USA.
The Kluger is the such a wierd name. It’s a Highlander anywhere else, wtf?
Those fuel economy numbers look very low, almost too low. I have a 22 RAV4 (AWD) hybrid and after a year of ownership I really have to nany it to get 5.2/5.3L per 100kms. Getting 4.7L/100 would have to be for that single test/trip. I don't think that'd be a consistent result over long term use.
How you personally drive is a variable we can't control. We performed a consistent loop that all the vehicles drove in the same conditions. We're simply presenting the results of our loop.
@chasingcars I'm not saying the numbers reported were under cooked, if anything my AWD would be slightly thirstier than the 2wd you tested. All I'm saying is long term use results would vary from a single trip (based on various driving conditions, fuel type, number of passengers). One trip I had using 98 fuel i got 4.3L/kms, but that's certainly not my average over a year with local and highway driving running on no less than 95 fuel, driving conservatively on eco mode.
Am,.. what about Prius?
Prius is no longer sold in Australia.
Gen 2 Prius. Cmon boys.
No Venza on this list????
the Camry's the only one with a decent interior
It’s a relieving pass mark (“Ps get degrees 😏” energy) that Toyota offer so many hybrids, but as a former Toyota guy, I’m very disappointed at their non existent battery electric options. They’re offering cutting edge tech from 20 years ago across the range.
I moved from Toyota to Subaru, now to Tesla and BYD.
Both Tesla and BYD make Japan’s offerings look like the script for an Adam Sander movie. (Because like Adam Sander, he’s supposed to be funny, and was popular 20 years ago)
Camry for me ....
great video team, what a shame toyota still do the worst infotainment systems. my god.
Second*
that 2c / km thing tho
Wow!! Still using that old model RAV4 😮 You should just use a 2010 model and really go all out 😂😂
GJ
9:20 Oops
What am I missing
@@chasingcars Image flipped. No biggie :-)
Well done on securing the Toyota endorsement! Congratulations! Fantastic “self-charging” EV’s…
No endorsement and they didn’t even know we were running it. Two of the cars were sourced from outside Toyota…
Is this a Toyota paid add???????? Put a Honda Civic eHEV up against this group and I'm sure it would do very well against them.
Did you miss 2:10? That may help you. This is our own independent cross-brand test. It isn’t a comparison of the Honda Civic. Very pleasant car to drive that. Also a very expensive one.
Toyota commercial
Sorry gents, reeks of paid product placement of yesteryears technology bonanza. Farewell party 🥳
You’ve got it the wrong way around. This is a fully independent video that is responsive to what people are demanding in droves, not a paid placement (which we don’t ever do - subscribers know this - but would normally be used by others to drum up demand in a slow selling product)
stop praising shit features because they are new and downgrading them because they are old. age has no determination on quality.
Funny how you guys can get every Hybrid model sent to you, yet customers have to wait 2 years for a RAV4 Hybrid. Cynical marketing exercise from Toyota to try to keep interest in the brand up. Total fail video.
To be honest, there are ways to get hold of every car in this video for resting. Its easy to rent just difficult to buy