It is so much easier if you leave the takedown tool in the guide rod for reassembly. Then slightly take the pressure off and pop the tool out. Then you are not lining up the scratch pin under tension.
I will agree with him. I had to send mine back due to empty cases getting stuck in the barrel. They reamed the barrel and pinned the extractor, now I have a perfect gun that I trust my life with. I have over 4000 rounds through this gun now and not one flaw after it has been back from Springfield. It is my everyday carry.
I noticed if I use reloaded ammo, I get the following round stuck in the chamber but not in full battery. After a very difficult process of extracting the live round, I only used fresh manufactured rounds and it is flawless. The reloads ran perfectly in all my other 9’s
I had similar issues about 2 yrs ago. Mine came with a pinned ejector, but Springfield redid the extractor and feed ramp. I have shot over 5k rounds, a mix of HP, flatnose and round nose with no issues at all.
I bought one 2 years ago. First thing I did was try to load hollow points. It would not load a single round. I immediately reached out to Springfield and was told that I could either send it back, or run a bunch of practice rounds through it. I opted to run a bunch of practice rounds through it, to wear it in. It worked fine for about 150 rounds, then would not load any round I tried. Sent it back to Springfield, and was told it would be 3-6 weeks for repairs. Unacceptable!!!! My current carry weapon is a Hellcat Pro. I love it, and would prefer to get my $ back on the EMP.... I'm in week 1 of my 3-6 week wait.....🤮
First, I'd like to comment you on your excellent presentation. I also have this gun, and I have not fired it very often. The few times I have fired the pistol I was impressed with the accuracy. When I acquired the gun, I was warned that if I did not put the pin back on properly [which you so well explained], I would scratch it. I didn't buy the gun because it was pretty; I bought it because it fit my hand perfectly. But since it is so pretty, I don't want to mar it in any way. Thumbs up!
Good to know that ejector issues happen.. at least it’s a known problem and apparently Springfield will correct the problem. Just hoping I get my EMP Contour Carry comes back soon!
Purchased one a month ago and after a 500 round session, it went back to Springfield. I cleaned it before shooting and at the 250 count. Using quality ammo from pmc ball and Speer gold dots in 115gr. Trijicon doesn’t make sights for the EMP, so I asked Springfield if the tritium sights used on the EMP 3 could be installed on my 4. $175 for sights and installation and $35 for shipping. So you sell a $1200 pistol that doesn’t work, I’m without my $1200 investment for a month so far and you want to charge me for installation and shipping! I plan on retiring this year and moving far away from Phoenix. Far enough that I could retire my Glocks and carry this EMP. I’ll be selling it when I get it back.
I purchased mine in April, don’t know when it was made, 500 rounds in zero malfunctions with Freedom, PMC, Winchester white box, Range crap, and Hornady Critical Defense 115 gr.
Mine had the same problem..failures to eject about every 40 rounds. Stuck cases…it’s gone back to Springfield. Hoping to get it back soon..Hopefully…..
I am considering this same pistol and had two questions. How is the felt recoil for this 9mm model? How do you like the fiber optic sights? Thanks for the video!!
Once it had warranty repair I left be everything about it. The sights are fine for my purpose and the recoil is pretty smooth. It is extremely accurate.
Do you know if you can replace the fiber optic site with a regular night site or not and what would fit .would it be the same as an XDS or some of the other Springfields?
Danny Butler yes you can change them. I would have to search for different options. I know you could send the slide in to Springfield and they can install a front tritium sight as well as their combat low mount fixed rear sight. That is a pretty good combo.
Springfield denies the problem ever exist so there is probably no way to know if they have changed or not. Date was 2017 As some have stated you can use a paper clip for the tool.
BIG LOU - sweet Thank You!! That’s the deciding factor for me. I don’t mind if they stick out a little bit. Looks like it’ll be just the baseplate anyway. I was actually looking at the all stainless steel 10 rounders from Wilson Combat. They are a little pricier but from what I can see & from what I’ve heard they are very well made. They even have a tumbled finish which helps on reload and lets them drop free even while empty.
That may help you a little. Seems to be normal SA practice. I didnt know it at the time. Unless you are really good at DIY gunsmithing you may have to send it in.
Shoot Well And Often. SWAO! This thread talks about the “Ejector” being glued not the “Extractor” they are two totally different things. I’ve never owned a 1911 so I don’t know if they actually have an “extractor” or not. I do know that AR15’s have both. So maybe you can answer the question for me or maybe ask on the 1911 forum since I’m not a member. I would just like some clarification. It’s a bit confusing because an Extractor is actually a spring loaded moving part. Like I’ve seen some 1911’s with an external extractor and to me that makes perfect sense. Maybe I’m over thinking??
Once I had it fixed under warranty it runs perfectly. Before I could not say anything positive about it. Failrures all over the place. It shoots poa for me. The new extractor works perfectly and ejection is flawless
Shoot Well And Often. SWAO! - Do you know who makes a Night sight that would fit this pistol? The TruGlo TFX would be the best of both worlds if they make one that fits the EMP4. Tritium and Fiber Optic that won’t fall out, all in a single package!!!
I know Dawson Precision does a front sight specific tritium sight for the EMP. I have also heard that the EMP 3 3 dot tritium sights work for the EMP4. As far as the truglos ...the last I heard they dont have a set that fits without milling out the dovetail a bit. But you may contact them to see if that has changed.
It is so much easier if you leave the takedown tool in the guide rod for reassembly. Then slightly take the pressure off and pop the tool out. Then you are not lining up the scratch pin under tension.
I will agree with him. I had to send mine back due to empty cases getting stuck in the barrel. They reamed the barrel and pinned the extractor, now I have a perfect gun that I trust my life with. I have over 4000 rounds through this gun now and not one flaw after it has been back from Springfield. It is my everyday carry.
Yes once you get it back it is a piece of art. Too bad you have to send it though.
SWAO!
Shoot Well And Often. SWAO!,it is my favorite by far. I carry it daily. It is a piece of art.
I noticed if I use reloaded ammo, I get the following round stuck in the chamber but not in full battery. After a very difficult process of extracting the live round, I only used fresh manufactured rounds and it is flawless.
The reloads ran perfectly in all my other 9’s
I had similar issues about 2 yrs ago. Mine came with a pinned ejector, but Springfield redid the extractor and feed ramp. I have shot over 5k rounds, a mix of HP, flatnose and round nose with no issues at all.
I’m glad it worked out for you. It a great shooter.
When using the tool in the guide rod it is best to leave it in until you have the pistol reassembled with the slide stop in place.
Absolutely agree. Removing the retaining tool is my last step in reassembly.
This makes me feel better. I bought 1 and had the same problem and sent it in. Still awaiting for it to come back
Same…went back to Springfield
I bought one 2 years ago. First thing I did was try to load hollow points. It would not load a single round. I immediately reached out to Springfield and was told that I could either send it back, or run a bunch of practice rounds through it. I opted to run a bunch of practice rounds through it, to wear it in. It worked fine for about 150 rounds, then would not load any round I tried. Sent it back to Springfield, and was told it would be 3-6 weeks for repairs. Unacceptable!!!! My current carry weapon is a Hellcat Pro. I love it, and would prefer to get my $ back on the EMP.... I'm in week 1 of my 3-6 week wait.....🤮
Great! Went slow enough for me to get every detail needed. Thanks.
One of the best take down videos I've seen. Thanks much! I'm going to pick up my new EMP 4 CCC today!
Pam Waters congrats
This was very very helpful, thanks for taking the time. You solved ,,one of the issues I had with the weapon. Thanks much!
I’m glad it helped. Nice gun you have.
First, I'd like to comment you on your excellent presentation. I also have this gun, and I have not fired it very often. The few times I have fired the pistol I was impressed with the accuracy. When I acquired the gun, I was warned that if I did not put the pin back on properly [which you so well explained], I would scratch it. I didn't buy the gun because it was pretty; I bought it because it fit my hand perfectly. But since it is so pretty, I don't want to mar it in any way. Thumbs up!
As of 2020 All EMP4 have pinned ejectors from the factory.
Alex SAMANO good to know
Thank you for the honest review!
Good to know that ejector issues happen.. at least it’s a known problem and apparently Springfield will correct the problem. Just hoping I get my EMP Contour Carry comes back soon!
Purchased one a month ago and after a 500 round session, it went back to Springfield. I cleaned it before shooting and at the 250 count. Using quality ammo from pmc ball and Speer gold dots in 115gr. Trijicon doesn’t make sights for the EMP, so I asked Springfield if the tritium sights used on the EMP 3 could be installed on my 4. $175 for sights and installation and $35 for shipping.
So you sell a $1200 pistol that doesn’t work, I’m without my $1200 investment for a month so far and you want to charge me for installation and shipping!
I plan on retiring this year and moving far away from Phoenix. Far enough that I could retire my Glocks and carry this EMP. I’ll be selling it when I get it back.
They replaced the slide and barrel under warranty. Made the light primer strikes worse. Sent it back again and asked for a refund.
Almost got one in fde green but went with the range officer elite Champion 9mm
I want this for my EDC firearm.
I purchased mine in April, don’t know when it was made, 500 rounds in zero malfunctions with Freedom, PMC, Winchester white box, Range crap, and Hornady Critical Defense 115 gr.
Michael Holts very nice
Shoot Well And Often. SWAO! Thank you. It’s a sweet little gun.
Thanks
I have one manufactured in 2018. The empty cases get stuck upon ejection every 50 to 70 rounds. I guess i need to send it in....
They will take care of it. I had the same problem. Sent it in. It now has over 6k rounds through it. No problems at all. It is my daily carry.
Mine had the same problem..failures to eject about every 40 rounds. Stuck cases…it’s gone back to Springfield. Hoping to get it back soon..Hopefully…..
Shane. Did you send it to Springfield?
Yes and they fixed no problems since! Took about 2 weeks. Love this gun.
@@sundevilshane got mine back in 3 weeks. So far so good. Ran a variety of loads through it…approximately 100rds..all worked.
i reference this video all the time :)
Glad it helps
I am considering this same pistol and had two questions. How is the felt recoil for this 9mm model? How do you like the fiber optic sights? Thanks for the video!!
Once it had warranty repair I left be everything about it. The sights are fine for my purpose and the recoil is pretty smooth. It is extremely accurate.
Warranty repair?!
Do you know if you can replace the fiber optic site with a regular night site or not and what would fit .would it be the same as an XDS or some of the other Springfields?
Danny Butler yes you can change them. I would have to search for different options. I know you could send the slide in to Springfield and they can install a front tritium sight as well as their combat low mount fixed rear sight. That is a pretty good combo.
I absolutely adore this firearm but that takedown tool is a deal breaker for me.
My EMP4 and Kimber Pro Carry II have the same takedown tool. I clean them at the same time.
When did you get the gun...or when was it manufactured. I’m wanting to purchase and wonder if it was an old problem? How did you determine the issue??
Springfield denies the problem ever exist so there is probably no way to know if they have changed or not. Date was 2017
As some have stated you can use a paper clip for the tool.
Apparently the problems were addressed. Just got one today, and the extractor is pinned front, and Back
Do you know if the 10 round magazines from the EMP 4” LIGHTWEIGHT CHAMPION will work in this model ?? Thanks
Daniel Mares if it is 9mm they should fit just not flush
Yes they do. I own 11 of them they work flawlessly.
BIG LOU - sweet Thank You!! That’s the deciding factor for me. I don’t mind if they stick out a little bit. Looks like it’ll be just the baseplate anyway. I was actually looking at the all stainless steel 10 rounders from Wilson Combat. They are a little pricier but from what I can see & from what I’ve heard they are very well made. They even have a tumbled finish which helps on reload and lets them drop free even while empty.
@@DanMar5858, the mags for the EMP ONLY work with the EMP. They are proprietary to Springfield EMP only.
Does that little "L" tool come with the pistol?
Stephanie Roberts yes it comes with a take down tool
And if you lose it, a paper clip works just fine
How about showing the extractor "pinned location" please if there is a to see the "fix" ...
forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=784538#/topics/784538
That may help you a little. Seems to be normal SA practice. I didnt know it at the time. Unless you are really good at DIY gunsmithing you may have to send it in.
That's strange. I've never heard of an extractor being glued in as a solution.
The Triggerati SA glues them from factory. Pinning is the way they fix it.
Shoot Well And Often. SWAO! This thread talks about the “Ejector” being glued not the “Extractor” they are two totally different things. I’ve never owned a 1911 so I don’t know if they actually have an “extractor” or not. I do know that AR15’s have both. So maybe you can answer the question for me or maybe ask on the 1911 forum since I’m not a member. I would just like some clarification. It’s a bit confusing because an Extractor is actually a spring loaded moving part. Like I’ve seen some 1911’s with an external extractor and to me that makes perfect sense. Maybe I’m over thinking??
What do you do if you loose the tool to re-install the guide rod/spring assembly?
Use a paperclip.
Or a Small Allen wrench.
Know problems? Where? I here the ejection is slow and low to the shooter's arm.
Once I had it fixed under warranty it runs perfectly. Before I could not say anything positive about it. Failrures all over the place.
It shoots poa for me. The new extractor works perfectly and ejection is flawless
Glued the extractor? WOW!!! 😂😢
I want
Go get.
What happened to the front sight's fiber optic rod?
3manfan they pop off from time to time. I did a video where I replaced it but I notice now its gone. I must have accidently deleted it.
Shoot Well And Often. SWAO! - Do you know who makes a Night sight that would fit this pistol? The TruGlo TFX would be the best of both worlds if they make one that fits the EMP4. Tritium and Fiber Optic that won’t fall out, all in a single package!!!
I know Dawson Precision does a front sight specific tritium sight for the EMP. I have also heard that the EMP 3 3 dot tritium sights work for the EMP4.
As far as the truglos ...the last I heard they dont have a set that fits without milling out the dovetail a bit. But you may contact them to see if that has changed.