Hi Nigel,i recived last week this kit also. And i was preparing for a happy build.Because i thought it could not go more worse than the Delta Intergrale,but what a disapointment it was after i opened the bags. I am now building the Meng McLaren Mp 4 from prost/senna. That kit surprized me with the quality,and it was even cheaper than this Lancia. And with seemlines i can live,but those sinkholes is bringing that-much work extra,that makes it almost be a hated kit. The Tamiya 1-12 kits are from another level. Meng is almost on the same level as Tamiya now. Even the Fujimi Skyline i have build was better. Such a shame from such a Iconic and Beautifull car.
Nigel+ i have the trumpeter 1/12 scale ford GT 40 Mark 2 this is a nice kit in spite of the defects in the plastic you are right about this kit but i will still purchase it will go nicely and with my Ford GT 40 kit its a beautiful car great kit review keep up the great work
I live 15km away from Italeri Factory and with a lot o love and deepest patriotism, I can ensure to all of you all over the entire world that italeri’s kit are the best rubbish s…t on the planet.
Great review, Loads of adverts in my video I must of had upwards of 10 ad breaks just thought I would mention it. As for the kit I too was looking forward to this car as I love Lancia cars but I wouldn't go near this with a 40ft Barge pole especially after the nightmare I had with the Lancia Delta Integrale. I followed your advice and corrected the disc brakes and other corrections but then messed up the seatbelts as the dimensions in the instructions were wrong and didn't find the correction on the website till after I had cut it all to length, Never did finish it just put it back in the box half finished and moved on with something better. Keep up the great work.
Hi Nigel, thank you for a great review! I just received my 1/12 Stratos and can kinda confirm you may have got a bad one. My bonnet has no sink marks, the roof just has tiny sink marks in the middle around where the antenna goes? (they look like they should just sand out) Certainly doesn't have the dip yours does. The top of the boot does have a sink mark where the support struts are underneath but not from the ejector pins. Maybe not good news for you at the moment, but good news for modellers as a whole. I hope you can get a replacement sprue!
Hi, Nige, nice review. We have spoken of this before and I think the time is ripe for you to give us a vid on the physics/mechanics of the injection moulding process. I have often suspected that there are so many human-affected variables which can result in either rubbish or excellent results from the same moulds. Some insight would be great. What do you think?
Just finished watching the review. While I was watching I initially thought you were being far too critical. It's your review, you are entitled your view and it's an honest review. It's what you're seeing. And I appreciate that. But I checked my kit. I now see a lot of what you're seeing, but I would not call it that bad. Also, it's a rally car. Not a showroom shiny Porsche or Lambo. Rally cars get hammered. I would definitely not finish this kit in an all out glass clear coat. And like you said the problems can be corrected, or even hidden. So in the end it's what the builder wants to get out of it and amount of the time spent on it. For the money, it's below par. It's Italeri in the end. But that doesn't mean you cannot make something awesome out of it. And have fun building it, even if its not perfect. And the target audience won't mind and is willing to put in that extra effort too step it up I think. Models are not supposed to be flawless I think. The Tamiya Porsche has a nicer body, but some of the other parts and detail is far worse. They're 70s kits. If Tamiya would today do a new tooled 1/12th sports car (are you listening Tamiya ?) like they did in the 70s it would blow this Stratos out of the water. But, they would also charge are least 300 ponds. The Carrera GT it the newest and it is over 450 euro. Thats why they much rather re-box the old 1/12the scale boxes with some PE and have them around the 80-120 range. Those sell a lot better. I got this kit at 175 Euro by the way, and I expect you can get it for less in 4 or 5 months.
Given the condition of the body panels, this would be a great kit for a post-race weathering job. Sheetmetal would have all kinds of stress wrinkles. Would make for an interesting weathering project. Rain soaked race with lots of mud/spray patterns. But it's putting lipstick on a pig. The quality of those moldings in unforgivable in this day and age, especially in that scale. I recently bought a Revell Huey for nostalgia reasons. Couldn't believe the amount of flash, even though I was expecting such, however, I only paid about $15 for it, not my left kidney. Inexcusable.
Italeri and Roden do some really interesting subjects which is great, more than just the usual 'planes and tanks'. I like a challenge, but the quality of both companies' output is painful. When they are not cheap 'Dogfight Doubles' 1-72 kits, I think it's unforgivable to be honest. They don't 'strive' to improve like Airfix, Tamiya and Revell do. Maybe it's me?
Great review! I got the kit myself and wasnt amazed by the body panels too. Please let us know how you end up with that email, so we can try contacting them too. It was quite a battle to get a new body for the Delta when it came cracked because of their poor packaging.
@NigelsModellingBench l built a kit in 1984 (one of their truck, well detailed for its time) and the doors were affected by some sink due to internal structure. When they reintroduced that kit about 25 year later, I bought one, and the sinkmarks were in the same exact spot .
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Nice video Nigel, looks like a good kit.
Thanks 👍
Hi Nigel,i recived last week this kit also. And i was preparing for a happy build.Because i thought it could not go more worse than the Delta Intergrale,but what a disapointment it was after i opened the bags. I am now building the Meng McLaren Mp 4 from prost/senna. That kit surprized me with the quality,and it was even cheaper than this Lancia. And with seemlines i can live,but those sinkholes is bringing that-much work extra,that makes it almost be a hated kit. The Tamiya 1-12 kits are from another level. Meng is almost on the same level as Tamiya now. Even the Fujimi Skyline i have build was better. Such a shame from such a Iconic and Beautifull car.
Thanks for the review, I was thinking of buying this for my 2025 builds, after seeing this I'll save my £200!
Well, all I will say is that we dont know if all the kits are like this? I await a response from Italeri, hopefully it will be a positive outcome?
Nigel+ i have the trumpeter 1/12 scale ford GT 40 Mark 2 this is a nice kit in spite of the defects in the plastic you are right about this kit but i will still purchase it will go nicely and with my Ford GT 40 kit its a beautiful car great kit review keep up the great work
I live 15km away from Italeri Factory and with a lot o love and deepest patriotism, I can ensure to all of you all over the entire world that italeri’s kit are the best rubbish s…t on the planet.
Simply not true. They are definitely not in the top 5 or even top 10, but to say they're crap all over is generalizing.
Great review, Loads of adverts in my video I must of had upwards of 10 ad breaks just thought I would mention it. As for the kit I too was looking forward to this car as I love Lancia cars but I wouldn't go near this with a 40ft Barge pole especially after the nightmare I had with the Lancia Delta Integrale. I followed your advice and corrected the disc brakes and other corrections but then messed up the seatbelts as the dimensions in the instructions were wrong and didn't find the correction on the website till after I had cut it all to length, Never did finish it just put it back in the box half finished and moved on with something better. Keep up the great work.
Thank you. Ads are sorted now.
Hi Nigel, thank you for a great review! I just received my 1/12 Stratos and can kinda confirm you may have got a bad one. My bonnet has no sink marks, the roof just has tiny sink marks in the middle around where the antenna goes? (they look like they should just sand out) Certainly doesn't have the dip yours does. The top of the boot does have a sink mark where the support struts are underneath but not from the ejector pins. Maybe not good news for you at the moment, but good news for modellers as a whole. I hope you can get a replacement sprue!
That's great news.. thank you.
Hi, Nige, nice review. We have spoken of this before and I think the time is ripe for you to give us a vid on the physics/mechanics of the injection moulding process. I have often suspected that there are so many human-affected variables which can result in either rubbish or excellent results from the same moulds. Some insight would be great. What do you think?
OK, I shall give my little knowledge.
I got this kit yesterday at BSMC. Looks great. Don't know yet how it will go together. I hope the O37 is next on Italeri's list.
I'm hoping for the Delta S4.
@@NigelsModellingBench : So lets hope for both.
Just finished watching the review. While I was watching I initially thought you were being far too critical. It's your review, you are entitled your view and it's an honest review. It's what you're seeing. And I appreciate that.
But I checked my kit. I now see a lot of what you're seeing, but I would not call it that bad. Also, it's a rally car. Not a showroom shiny Porsche or Lambo. Rally cars get hammered. I would definitely not finish this kit in an all out glass clear coat. And like you said the problems can be corrected, or even hidden.
So in the end it's what the builder wants to get out of it and amount of the time spent on it. For the money, it's below par. It's Italeri in the end. But that doesn't mean you cannot make something awesome out of it. And have fun building it, even if its not perfect. And the target audience won't mind and is willing to put in that extra effort too step it up I think. Models are not supposed to be flawless I think.
The Tamiya Porsche has a nicer body, but some of the other parts and detail is far worse. They're 70s kits. If Tamiya would today do a new tooled 1/12th sports car (are you listening Tamiya ?) like they did in the 70s it would blow this Stratos out of the water. But, they would also charge are least 300 ponds. The Carrera GT it the newest and it is over 450 euro. Thats why they much rather re-box the old 1/12the scale boxes with some PE and have them around the 80-120 range. Those sell a lot better. I got this kit at 175 Euro by the way, and I expect you can get it for less in 4 or 5 months.
So tempted!
I’ve had this kit on order since March
Still haven’t received it yet
Given the condition of the body panels, this would be a great kit for a post-race weathering job. Sheetmetal would have all kinds of stress wrinkles. Would make for an interesting weathering project. Rain soaked race with lots of mud/spray patterns. But it's putting lipstick on a pig. The quality of those moldings in unforgivable in this day and age, especially in that scale. I recently bought a Revell Huey for nostalgia reasons. Couldn't believe the amount of flash, even though I was expecting such, however, I only paid about $15 for it, not my left kidney. Inexcusable.
All good Charlie.. however, the Stratos had a fibreglass body.
Thanks nigel. I was thinking of getting this. Not now , im not paying 200 squid to fill and sand a lot of the crappy body.
Well, all I will say is that we dont know if all the kits are like this? I await a response from Italeri, hopefully it will be a positive outcome?
I think the drawings wrong as well, Nige, representing the discs. Think the batteries going into starter and idle stop solenoids?!
Yes, I spotted this afterwards.. the general drawings after brake assembly show as per kit parts, but the brake assembly steps how them correctly...
Italeri and Roden do some really interesting subjects which is great, more than just the usual 'planes and tanks'. I like a challenge, but the quality of both companies' output is painful. When they are not cheap 'Dogfight Doubles' 1-72 kits, I think it's unforgivable to be honest. They don't 'strive' to improve like Airfix, Tamiya and Revell do. Maybe it's me?
5mm long would be 60mm in full size? I know the car had really long plug caps so 5mm is about the correct size.
Great review! I got the kit myself and wasnt amazed by the body panels too. Please let us know how you end up with that email, so we can try contacting them too. It was quite a battle to get a new body for the Delta when it came cracked because of their poor packaging.
Will do!
Wheeljack.👍👍
Sh are the two letters missing😅
By the way most of my Italeri kit (a lot), become shelf queen when i ran out of filler.😂
Well, all I will say is that we dont know if all the kits are like this? I await a response from Italeri, hopefully it will be a positive outcome?
@NigelsModellingBench l built a kit in 1984 (one of their truck, well detailed for its time) and the doors were affected by some sink due to internal structure.
When they reintroduced that kit about 25 year later, I bought one, and the sinkmarks were in the same exact spot .
Seems like a tolerable engine kit with a mediocre chassis and terrible body!
Well, all I will say is that we dont know if all the kits are like this? I await a response from Italeri, hopefully it will be a positive outcome?
Nice review, disappointing kit. At the retail price they are I expect better.
Well, all I will say is that we dont know if all the kits are like this? I await a response from Italeri, hopefully it will be a positive outcome?
HI Nigel. How about getting the Lancia Delta back on the work bench 🫰