@@maxplayscfb You got my subscription! In future videos like these can you fully fill graphics like the one at 2:27. I know that I like to screenshot graphics In videos like these so I can use them when I play and I’m sure other people do as well. Now I have to go into my notes app and write out the conversions for each letter grade. It’s not the biggest deal in the world but something that could’ve been “a nice touch” is now “a slight annoyance” Thanks for the tip, look forward to seeing more of your content in the future!
I was waiting for a 3 minute introduction, 2 minute advertisement, and a 30 second segment of the actual video. Guy proved me wrong. Definitely hitting that like and subscribe button.
It worked...had a 4-star recruit and was in 3rd place on his list. Did a hard sell, Didn't think it was gonna work, because his like for my school kept going down. On the 3rd week he commited to my school and i was 3rd on the list...
Fantastic breakdown man! EVERYONE is posting these CFB recruiting tips that are like 30 minutes long with a ton of extra talking and BS. You were straight to the point and ACTUALLY showed proof with a numbers breakdown! Love it! Instantly subbed to the channel! Looking forward to more videos like this. Would be interested to see the difference in Hard Sell and non pitching
The only one I really cared to watch was Bordeaux's recruiting vid when the game first came out. Watched a couple of others and they said some helpful stuff but I tuned most of it out cause it was just yapping. And I agree, in this 5 min video, it was more informative than like 3 other people's 35 min - 1 hour videos
I just started playing dynasty mode and I am CLUELESS when it comes to recruiting. This just made it so much easier and a lot less overwhelming. Thank you so much!
for those struggling with the numbers concept, the players just need to average better than a C (technically between a C and C+ is the threshhold) to hard/soft sell. Meaning A-, B-, C- = sell, while B-, C-, D- = no sell
I've been looking at quite a few videos about dynasty but they were all unclear and non detailed. This video was simple, straight to the point and I came away with some useful, please keep making more videos like this.
Bro this is amazing. I just be hard selling everybody when I get the ideal pitch and sometimes it doesn’t work and I’ve always wondered why. This makes total sense
Nice video! Heres another thing probably worth testing - Soft selling the non-ideal pitch but has 2 motivations with good grades and a third that is not a motivation but also has a good grade appears to outperform friends and family as well by a decent margin.
i dont write comments much but this video is exactly what i need and how i think a lot of videos should be made. thats exactly my kind of video, instant sub
Amazing video, you’re the first person I think to point out hard selling isn’t always the right move WITH the math behind it… You get a sub my man, love putting math and logic into this game
This makes such a difference. This season for me is pretty much done but will definitely use this in the next years crop of recruits. What a gem find my guy!!!!👌🏾
@ hell yeah. Get way more recruits to commit after 1-3 weeks. Just make sure they are in the top 3 recruiting phase. As long as the gap between you and 1,2 schools aren’t too bad then you can steal the prospect
This is great content and makes me interested in further A/B testing. 1) At what letter grade point totals of a hard sell result in more gained influence than sending the house? 2) At what letter grade point totals of a hard sell is it more resource efficient than sending the house? 3) Same thing as 1 & 2, but with soft sell & contact friends and family.
I think this was a great breakdown. For some reason, the letters weren’t clicking for me in terms of how much interest they would accrue. But converting them to numbers makes it quite easy to analyze which move to perform. Great work, and happy playing. 💪🏼
Max love your videos. This is the most valuable one you have ever done. Thanks. There was a patch today tweaking hard sell and soft sells. Could you please do more research and a new video on the changes and if you still need a 17+ etc. thanks.
It’s worth noting that the 5 hour activity is pretty crappy. It’s good to know how the soft sell + 5 hr compares head to head to the 25 hr, but in many cases it’s just as useful to just know that a sell with B and above grades is going to outperform the 25. Soft sell with good grades along with DM is the most efficient use of hours. I stick those two on any guy that doesnt have any recruiting competition and I just want to progress the recruiting bar efficiently. Meanwhile hard sell costs double the soft sell without being twice as good, however when you pair it with the hyper efficient DM, you’re getting a very efficient use of 50 points. I use hard sell whenever I feel any pressure from another school on a recruit, knowing that this 50 hour combo is a decently efficient use of time while also generating a lot of progress.
I’ve been trying to figure this out for myself because all these TH-camrs before this never gave the answer I was looking for. Thank you!!!! Loved the vid
You been able to schedule on bye weeks? I only had 4 home games this season and that was the only weeks it let me schedule. Had so many guys unable to do visits
Incredibly informative on your process! Wondering if you’ll be looking into the “sway” recruiting mechanism, haven’t used it much but I’m interested to see a breakdown similar to your “soft sell/hard sell” video. Great content, great quality, eagerly awaiting the next upload.
Hard sell + DM is more effective than Send The House. I made a post about this a few days because I had the same idea. The bonus for guessing the correct pitch is probably why it's SLIGHTLY more effective.
In every single case when you had good enough grades during this experiment, it actually wasn’t the case! That’s why it’s important to look at the grades of their ideal pitch. If you’re averaging A’s and B’s in their 3 ideal categories, it’s wayyyy better to pitch - the data backs it up too
@@maxplayscfb in the test that I ran, my recruit had two D's and a b for his interest grades. I thought for certain it would be better to just send the house. I was wrong. He had a small extra sliver of interest after I did a hard sell plus DM. I tagged you in a post so you can see for yourself. I believe the explanation is in the description. It's based on correct, ideal pitch. I'm sure you're correct when it comes to a soft sale though. It's probably purely based off of your grade relative to their targeted interests.
@@SimFootballFanatic you can’t compare a STH vs. hard/DM experiment to a f&f vs. soft/sm experiment. The numbers of the higher-cost actions are not double those of the lower cost so that would require an entirely separate experiment. STH is much worse per hour than F&F whereas hard/dm is actually pretty close to soft/sm. So yes, the 50 point sell combo is a much easier choice and it presumably doesn’t require the same grades as the 25 point sell combo to break even. Pretty much any correct-guess hard sell that doesn’t have all failing grades is going to beat STH.
Awesome! I appreciate this! I’m gonna apply this in my current season. I’ve been losing recruits and it’s frustrating so maybe this will help. I’ll let you know!
I hadn't even been paying attention and was just always pitching when I can. It turns out by this math that's been a good decision since rarely if ever would I have had a pitch that low.
Absolutely amazing stuff. Thank you! Personally it makes more sense to me to invert the grades (e.g A+ = 1 pt, target score less than 20) since its easier to add smaller numbers and I want to go after guys who have higher grades.
Dude my wife is so interested in how technical I get with my sports games because she loves watching me play..and sometimes she gets to play as well lol. Learning this and then incorporating it will definetly make her go “bro what?”😂 thank you! Will definetly give this a try lol
A/B Testing for a video game. Dope idea
EXACTLY ahahaha if analytics is becoming a huge factor in sports, let’s bring it to sports video games too
🙌🏾
@@maxplayscfb
You got my subscription! In future videos like these can you fully fill graphics like the one at 2:27. I know that I like to screenshot graphics In videos like these so I can use them when I play and I’m sure other people do as well.
Now I have to go into my notes app and write out the conversions for each letter grade. It’s not the biggest deal in the world but something that could’ve been “a nice touch” is now “a slight annoyance”
Thanks for the tip, look forward to seeing more of your content in the future!
@@maxplayscfblove it
IVE BEEN SEARCHING FOR THIS FOR WEEKS, I first seen this on TT and it may have been you I can’t recall but I need this explanation thanks
I was waiting for a 3 minute introduction, 2 minute advertisement, and a 30 second segment of the actual video. Guy proved me wrong. Definitely hitting that like and subscribe button.
Yeah I was waiting for the degenerate gambling plug
still a long ah intro
@@David-bl2sinot to be a jerk or anything, but how’s 5 minutes too long of a video for you?
@@David-bl2siwhen you’re 6 years old sure
Same
For anyone that wants the full point list
A+ (13)
A (12)
A- (11)
B+ (10)
B (9)
B- (8)
C+ (7)
C (6)
C- (5)
D+ (4)
D (3)
D- (2)
F (1)
We did not need this
@@Skillzratspeak for yourself.
@@Mc.Nuggetz can you not count
@@Skillzrat Nope I don’t have fingers.
@@Mc.Nuggetz unlucky
Bigger youtubers will steal this
Somebody already did 😂
@@lilkloud who lmao
Just be sure to tag him and call them out. Let’s be sure to give Max the credit.
Like me! I’m hard I mean huge! Hahaha
Love it!
Love that this video was only five minutes. Tired of coming across 45 min tutorials. Thanks for keeping it simple!
lol the next video recommended was a 45 minute “step by step recruiting tutorial”
Thank goodness for the shirt, your A$AP Rocky impersonation is uncanny.
Sick video and that’s a nice readable graph.
Thanks on the graph and yeah, I think it’s bc him and I have a similar smile
It worked...had a 4-star recruit and was in 3rd place on his list. Did a hard sell, Didn't think it was gonna work, because his like for my school kept going down. On the 3rd week he commited to my school and i was 3rd on the list...
This is crazy and definitely deserves some recognition
Thank you!! Took all day to make but man I think it’s so sick
Fantastic breakdown man!
EVERYONE is posting these CFB recruiting tips that are like 30 minutes long with a ton of extra talking and BS. You were straight to the point and ACTUALLY showed proof with a numbers breakdown! Love it!
Instantly subbed to the channel! Looking forward to more videos like this.
Would be interested to see the difference in Hard Sell and non pitching
The only one I really cared to watch was Bordeaux's recruiting vid when the game first came out. Watched a couple of others and they said some helpful stuff but I tuned most of it out cause it was just yapping.
And I agree, in this 5 min video, it was more informative than like 3 other people's 35 min - 1 hour videos
I just started playing dynasty mode and I am CLUELESS when it comes to recruiting. This just made it so much easier and a lot less overwhelming. Thank you so much!
"If this video does good I might do more"
It's already by far his most popular video. GGS man
Yeah I suppose this is what we are gonna be doin now🤣🤣
only dude out here making useful content
Thank you!!
Seriously almost every channel I come across gives obvious information that I waste my time watching
This is awesome. No clickbait. No long extended video to get to the point. Definitely subscribing now, good stuff appreciate it
for those struggling with the numbers concept, the players just need to average better than a C (technically between a C and C+ is the threshhold) to hard/soft sell. Meaning A-, B-, C- = sell, while B-, C-, D- = no sell
Sick video brother. No fluff, actual data, 10/10 thanks for doing this.
Unfortunately nobody in my online league can ever find out about this hahaha
ahahaha hopefully you can implement this before they find it!
Im an engineer. This is the best recruiting guide video ive seen yet! MOAR MATH!!
I'm an engineer too and that has nothing to do with this video.
Next, test out when to "hard sell", "soft sell", and "sway". Nice, concise video. Thanks.
easily hard sell when the recruit is close to committing to your team
Probably the same formula. If the recruits 3 favorites total less than 19, but you can sway to 3 that are more than 19, go for it.
same things aply... its all about the #'s
@@manofsteleI’m confused break it down more
Soon as you in top 5
I've been looking at quite a few videos about dynasty but they were all unclear and non detailed. This video was simple, straight to the point and I came away with some useful, please keep making more videos like this.
Bro this is amazing. I just be hard selling everybody when I get the ideal pitch and sometimes it doesn’t work and I’ve always wondered why. This makes total sense
So glad the algorithm gave me this. Short, to the point and useful. Good shit A$AP.
Amazing video. When the graph first came up I was like what the F...... And then you explained it and it's absolutely genius.
Nice video! Heres another thing probably worth testing - Soft selling the non-ideal pitch but has 2 motivations with good grades and a third that is not a motivation but also has a good grade appears to outperform friends and family as well by a decent margin.
Could be the case if the 2 motivations add up to over 19
I'd like to see this.
@@benjmonce8198 good observation this is always the case for me as if I dont have 2 greens (usually around A) then I wont pitch at all.
This! Would be very curious to see what happens with this
That is what the swat mechanic is for. You can "Sway" the recruit to value something you are strong in, to then sell them that pitch instead
Definitely earned a sub, we think the same but you’re smarter , I appreciate the knowledge you shared .
This was super helpful. The clearest explanation backed by math that’s easy to follow.
i dont write comments much but this video is exactly what i need and how i think a lot of videos should be made. thats exactly my kind of video, instant sub
Amazing video, you’re the first person I think to point out hard selling isn’t always the right move WITH the math behind it… You get a sub my man, love putting math and logic into this game
Super helpful, actually makes sense, 19 threshold... You're a real one for this.
This actually makes alot of sense and is probably one of those most helpful videos out right now
This makes such a difference. This season for me is pretty much done but will definitely use this in the next years crop of recruits. What a gem find my guy!!!!👌🏾
Heck yeah thank you!
Did it work?
@ hell yeah. Get way more recruits to commit after 1-3 weeks. Just make sure they are in the top 3 recruiting phase. As long as the gap between you and 1,2 schools aren’t too bad then you can steal the prospect
Finally a video that isn’t 50mins long
This is great content and makes me interested in further A/B testing.
1) At what letter grade point totals of a hard sell result in more gained influence than sending the house?
2) At what letter grade point totals of a hard sell is it more resource efficient than sending the house?
3) Same thing as 1 & 2, but with soft sell & contact friends and family.
I think this was a great breakdown. For some reason, the letters weren’t clicking for me in terms of how much interest they would accrue. But converting them to numbers makes it quite easy to analyze which move to perform. Great work, and happy playing. 💪🏼
I kept thinking that, if the grades weren't A or B, don't even pitch.
Jesus Christ it’s insane how simple this but it took you to do the work to get the data. I commend you. This is great stuff
Max love your videos. This is the most valuable one you have ever done. Thanks.
There was a patch today tweaking hard sell and soft sells. Could you please do more research and a new video on the changes and if you still need a 17+ etc. thanks.
Working on it this weekend!!
@@maxplayscfb you are the man. Thanks
This is the perfect video for this topic. Concise, clear and 5 minutes. I'm coming back for more. Great job.
Thank you!
Massive help, thank you for taking the time to research and present unique data without any clickbait!
This is the content we need! Yes, please give us more breakdowns with data and logic. Thank you.
It’s worth noting that the 5 hour activity is pretty crappy. It’s good to know how the soft sell + 5 hr compares head to head to the 25 hr, but in many cases it’s just as useful to just know that a sell with B and above grades is going to outperform the 25. Soft sell with good grades along with DM is the most efficient use of hours. I stick those two on any guy that doesnt have any recruiting competition and I just want to progress the recruiting bar efficiently.
Meanwhile hard sell costs double the soft sell without being twice as good, however when you pair it with the hyper efficient DM, you’re getting a very efficient use of 50 points. I use hard sell whenever I feel any pressure from another school on a recruit, knowing that this 50 hour combo is a decently efficient use of time while also generating a lot of progress.
I’ve been trying to figure this out for myself because all these TH-camrs before this never gave the answer I was looking for. Thank you!!!! Loved the vid
This is the best thing I’ve seen. It makes recruiting so much easier
And I love these videos using the maths to figure these things out. You got a new sub.
Thank you!! I’ll keep it up
Sir, you just got a new subscriber. Keep experimenting!
I've been looking for this...
I'd love to see one on scheduling visits, specifically scheduling on bye weeks, one green arrow visits, three, etc.
Yes! Great idea
You been able to schedule on bye weeks? I only had 4 home games this season and that was the only weeks it let me schedule. Had so many guys unable to do visits
I’ve never had the option to visit a bye.
This is the best video I have seen about this game period. Short, simple, and to the point. I will be subscribing
Sorry for the delay but thank you!! Means a lot
Incredibly informative on your process! Wondering if you’ll be looking into the “sway” recruiting mechanism, haven’t used it much but I’m interested to see a breakdown similar to your “soft sell/hard sell” video.
Great content, great quality, eagerly awaiting the next upload.
Finally, numbers. Thank you. Don’t know if this will work, gonna try it tonight, but this felt like the strongest reasoning I’ve seen so far. Gg!
My brother, you just changed recruiting for me. No 3 minute intro... straight science. Nah man. Jesus came again and he came in the form of you.
This is 🔥🔥🔥
Instant subscribe.
Now time to scroll.the rest of the content. Have a feeling its just as good and just as concise.
Big props
U just explained this to me like Oscar explained to Michael what a surplus was
Good ol Michael Scott!
Now if only he could explain what a rundown is.
Best part is this is less than 6 minutes. Great video, you deserve to go viral
Hard sell + DM is more effective than Send The House. I made a post about this a few days because I had the same idea. The bonus for guessing the correct pitch is probably why it's SLIGHTLY more effective.
In every single case when you had good enough grades during this experiment, it actually wasn’t the case!
That’s why it’s important to look at the grades of their ideal pitch. If you’re averaging A’s and B’s in their 3 ideal categories, it’s wayyyy better to pitch - the data backs it up too
@@maxplayscfbso if your ideal pitch is below 19 you just leave them on Send the house? Or you just give up on them?
@@maxplayscfb in the test that I ran, my recruit had two D's and a b for his interest grades. I thought for certain it would be better to just send the house. I was wrong. He had a small extra sliver of interest after I did a hard sell plus DM. I tagged you in a post so you can see for yourself.
I believe the explanation is in the description. It's based on correct, ideal pitch. I'm sure you're correct when it comes to a soft sale though. It's probably purely based off of your grade relative to their targeted interests.
@@badsabre5917 I think you could probably sway to increase the grade to above 19 which will make the sell effective
@@SimFootballFanatic you can’t compare a STH vs. hard/DM experiment to a f&f vs. soft/sm experiment. The numbers of the higher-cost actions are not double those of the lower cost so that would require an entirely separate experiment. STH is much worse per hour than F&F whereas hard/dm is actually pretty close to soft/sm. So yes, the 50 point sell combo is a much easier choice and it presumably doesn’t require the same grades as the 25 point sell combo to break even. Pretty much any correct-guess hard sell that doesn’t have all failing grades is going to beat STH.
thanks so much for this man! super interesting stuff. for sure gonna try this out later tonight 🔥
Could be skewed by asst coaches abilities. Should’ve just used same exact team on 2 different save files, then it’s apple to apples
Nope. Won’t be the exact same recruits genius. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
I got the jist of the recruiting strategy the more I played it, but this video definitely helped out with the rest. Great stuff man!
Easy u wait till u the final 3 then u hard sell...works every time
Thanks to you I finally got the #1 recruiting class in my 5th season at Syracuse🙏🏾
Happy to help!!!
Bro this was so dope haha. What great content man!
Awesome! I appreciate this! I’m gonna apply this in my current season. I’ve been losing recruits and it’s frustrating so maybe this will help. I’ll let you know!
awesome! hopefully it helps!
glad i watched the whole thing...keep up the good work
great video, and also very good that its not 40 minutes long like any sizeable youtuber would do!
Glad you liked it!
Enjoyed the video, figured I’d leave a comment. I’m gonna try this out later. Well done sir!
Awesome! Thank you!
My God you definitely earned my sub. Thank you really thank you so much I was confused at first but it all made sense at the end
Great video!! Managed to compress hours of research into MINUTES of super valuable info! Thank you so much!
You’re the goat bro, just earned a like and a sub 💯‼️
Thank you SO MUCH for this! I've been wondering about this question since release day, and you made it really simple to figure out.
Smashing like and subscribe. Straight to the point and great info.
Love this man! Please keep going.
Please keep doing these. The Cod community has a couple guys that do the math on things and I think it’s very interesting and helpful. You the man!
Bro just wanted to say thank you. Since I’ve implemented this system my recruiting has been top 3 every year in my online dynasty
heck yeah, glad to help!!
Everyone else is saying this too but this is a dope ass video and you’ve earned a sub
I really appreciate what you’re doing with this game! Breaking it down like this has always been super interesting to me.
Thanks for watching!! Super sick to know people enjoy this
That was a world class video, my friend! Great content, keep going!
Best I've heard yet! You sold bro..
thanks!!!
LOVE this kind of content. I like knowing *why* things work the way they do down to a T. Thank you
Found this in my algorithm. Keep making them!
Dudes, this was fantastic!! Straight to the point. Love you bro
Clear, concise, clever content. This is great!
Brilliant brother! 19 points is key
Instant sub, this man is kegit and getsbright to the poiint.
This is awesome man! Can't wait to see more!
Thanks for getting to the point! Definite subscribe
This is genius and you deserve recognition for it
Brother, you just got ya self a new subscriber with this one. Keep blossoming
I hadn't even been paying attention and was just always pitching when I can. It turns out by this math that's been a good decision since rarely if ever would I have had a pitch that low.
Also, did NOT know you can tell what videos give you subscribers. Very helpful
I am all for this type of stuff! Great video!
Make those videos bro, this was genius! Very insightful!
Dude this is awesome, lean into this consistently and I think you’ll find your niche
Thanks! Love it! Can't wait to try it. Definitely liked and subscribed
Thanks for subbing!
Here from a Mills shoutout keep it going bro
This is fantastic. Took me a minute , but very helpful once I understand the letters to numbers idea.
Nice video dude, need more of this in the community.
Yo thank you!!! Means a lot to me that someone with your background has such kind words, I’ll keep grinding!!
Lifetime follow! I appreciate the time and effort this took! Thank you 🙏🏻
Absolutely amazing stuff. Thank you! Personally it makes more sense to me to invert the grades (e.g A+ = 1 pt, target score less than 20) since its easier to add smaller numbers and I want to go after guys who have higher grades.
Dude my wife is so interested in how technical I get with my sports games because she loves watching me play..and sometimes she gets to play as well lol. Learning this and then incorporating it will definetly make her go “bro what?”😂 thank you! Will definetly give this a try lol
That is awesome! Hope this works!!
This is probably the best video on TH-cam
Love these 5-10 minute videos explaining stuff in the game, thanks!
thanks for watching them!! I should have some more dope ones throughout the rest of august!
Beautiful! Finally, somebody willing to spend the time and do ACTUAL TESTING. I've subscribed. Look forward to more like this.
This is great, glad my algorithm found it, super helpful. Keep doin whatcha doin bro
This video is truly perfect. needed it ngl