Former Montreal Maine & Atlantic Locomotives Await Their Fate in Lowell | Slideshow + Walk Around
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Slideshow + Video - 3/16/18 - This day was the true end of an era. The final six Montreal Maine and Atlantic locomotives were finally picked up from Northern Maine Junction by Pan Am Railways, and were in transit to their new home, for some their final home, Larry's Truck and Electric (LTEX) in McDonald, Ohio. Along the way they were dropped off in Lowell, MA, for transfer to Pan Am Railways train POSE, where I had the chance to get numerous detail footage of the locomotives from the MBTA Gallagher Terminal.
After the MM&A closed due to bankruptcy caused by the Lac Megantic derailment that occurred in 2013 these locomotives were stashed away and stored from 2014 to 2018, when they finally emerged to be taken away. It was quite an experience to see these locomotives, once the bloodline of a Class II railroad, in such a state of disrepair, and one that will always be remembered as one of my most interesting catches of my railfanning career. As of when I wrote this, the status of all the locomotives other than the F40PHM-2 was last reported as stored at LTEX. However, MMA 450, the F40, has been acquired by the Western Maryland Scenic Railroad and is being used in excursion passenger service. Hopefully more of these locomotives will come back to life, and this unique power won't be lost forever. Enjoy the video, and if you like what you saw please be sure to like, comment, and subscribe.
My video of these units on POSE the following Sunday - • One Last Run for Montr...
Locomotives:
MMA 8202 (Ex. NS, CR GE C39-8)
MMA 450 (Ex. CDAC EMD F40PHM-2)
MMA 8578 (Remote controlled GE B39-8E)
MMA 8553 (Remote controlled GE B39-8E)
MMA 5016 (Ex. BN GE C30-7)
MMA 5026 (Ex. BN GE C30-7) - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
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Railfans: Visible Sadness And Frustration
Lmaooooooo yes
Oh and 5026 Was one of the engine the lac Megantic Train explosion
Both B39-8Es are ex-LMX units and are being leased by Canadian National (CN) by 2021.
I remember C-30-7's growing up in Arkansas as a kid in the 1970's. They were painted in the old Cotton Belt & Southern Pacific colors.
From the Burlington Northern to the MMA, to this... an unfortunate fate for these Dash-7s.
Yes, I wish I had gotten to see them when they were still in service :-(
I must be getting old...I remember when these C30-7 locomotives were brand new.
Haha, you're lucky! I would've loved to see them new!
I got to see 2 c30-7's that was in 2010 ohio central 7063 and 7064. They sold 7064 that same year, 7063 was never seen again.
@@ohioandnortheastern Both of them were sold to PRSX and sent to Brazil to work on the Progress Rail of Brasil. The 7064 and 7063 were repainted on the silver PRSX scheme and retained their original numbers.
I can confirm the ex Conrail C39-8 and the ex BN C30-7s have been scrapped.
Its a shame how such a careless or rather poor shortline neglected the care their engines needed. Engines like 5016 would give railroads like NS a heart attack. Also 8202 was one of the engines once owned by the Pennsylvania northeastern here in PA along with a few others. I personally saw the engine myself when she was on the Halloween trains in New Hope and that engine was definitely in better hands and seemed better in condition back then (Only 8212 is left and is still operational with CR blue, 8211 is in New hope still in NS paint). We gave them those units and seeing them vandalized (and thinking their insides look like crap because of MMA being so good at maintenance) breaks my heart. 5026 i believe was involved in the Lac Megantic crash which was the final straw of the railroad and I made a documentary of that on my channel. MMA was like the Penn Central of short lines, even CSX does a better job than them I imagine since MMA was guilty of several safety setbacks which were exposed by of course Lac Megantic. As far as I know about 5017 (the leader of MMA 2 in that crash) it won't be scrapped but will never run again. it was held as evidence against MMA in court.
I agree with you on that one perhaps New Hope & Ivyland would have learned Lac megantic Quebec TSB & NTSB report on C-30 family locomotive faults
@@EpicThe112 The only reason 7087 doesn't run is not due to design flaws in the C30-7 as the engine was quite successful. Though in the wrong hands without basic maintenance and it being done incorrectly (Wrong air filters for replacement? cmon now) they turn into junk like 5017 and degrade faster than normal. 7087 doesn't run anymore due to lack of parts and GEs not really being built to last long especially in tourist operations. It's been out of service since 2016 for mechanical work but New hope pretty much gave up on it due to lack of parts and they already have 2198 and 8218 (A GP30 and GP9u) that both have more parts available and are more than enough to compensate not to mention being twice as reliable and if New Hope gets power short they can borrow engines from their freight counterpart Pennsylvania Northeastern (Mainly 7010, a GP9RM) also New Hope isn't the richest of tourist railroads compared to ones like Strasburg :/
@@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren thank you for telling me about 7087 C30-7 situation on why it doesn't run.
@@EpicThe112 No problem. It's a shame but understandable.
i have to agree on that
I’m sorry for being a year late, but this video is both sad and kind of rewarding to me. My grandfather use to be a MMA mechanic in Millinocket Maine and I was first introduced to the railroad in 2007 where I met 5023, it was awesome ( and I had permission since my grandfather was there and everything) very magical moment... but I’m hopeful there is a future for these guys! I wish I got to see them when they came down on ( EDPO?)
That's so cool! I hope there's a future for them too. 5023 was actually the first one I saw come down in the batch before these ones, so it's pretty infamous with me and my friends now. Also, this was POSE that they came down on.
Hopefully the Conrail C39-8 gets purchased by the ECRM in Saint Thomas
Awesome video!
Thank you! Glad you liked it.
Amazing video my dear friend thanks for sharing || Big like
Thank you very much!
5026 was part of the lac megantic disaster
1:00 Welcome to the Western MD Railway, 450!
Damn! Still alive one of those C30-7? We need one of them to be sent to Mexico and be used as part source to repair one of our SF30C, that was wrecked and needs parts.
LTEX in Ohio I believe has scrapped all these now, they might have some left though
You can spot three of these locos in this shot of the storage yard at Lordstown, at the top of the image next to the autoracks th-cam.com/video/suxTRjcaBG0/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for sharing that! That's cool!
IsaiahsTrains, I wish Canadian National should lease the B39-8Es from RLCX in 2021, right?
Maybe someday I will restore them as operational on my own Railroad in Texas they will be fantastic for freight train service and Excursion passenger trains 🚂
Old video, but what is the name of the tune at the start?
They could go to IRM, NH&I, BR&W, ESRM, O&SCVRR, or even WK&S
i wish the c30-7 was preserved both of them
IsaiahsTrains, the F40PHM-2 was last reported and stored at LTEX, right?
However, MMA #450, the F40, has been acquired by the Western Maryland Scenic Railroad and is being used in excursion passenger service. Hopefully more of these locomotives will come back to life, and this unique power won’t be lost forever. :D
What is the cirrent conditions on the mma locomotives as of today? (aside from 5017 and 3614)
They're all in various states of being scrapped at LTEX in Ohio, minus the 450 which is in passenger service at the Western Maryland Scenic RR
Tell me, what is so enjoyable about watching these locomotives heading to be scrapped?those c30-7s should be donated to the meseums and restored to running condition. It would be great to see these girls back in action, again. If I had a railroad museum, I would definitely go to where they are and purchase every one of them and restore them to operating condition. And have them repainted and repaired to running condition. I wouldn't send them to the scrappers,at all.
IsaiahsTrains, are they scrapping the F40PHM-2 #450?
Tom & Mom F40PHM-2 450 now works for the Western Maryland Scenic Railroad.
so is 5017 scrap now or still being used in the court case?
As far as I know it is in the scrap line at LTEX in Ohio.
From what I've heard, 5017 is still in Maine, and part of the deal to CP (so is the BAR F3)
If thats true, it will likely get scrapped
Rip MMA locos i hope they come back
Me too!
Is the market for ge 4 axles really that big?
Yes, lots of class 2 and 3 railroads have been purchasing them as of late.
@@IsaiahsTrains oh really, I've only heard of a couple not that much
lol. yea. but wasnt able to save a bunch from the nre purge
Yes, but not on USA. Some of these 4 axle GE's are being refurbished, repainted and sent to Mexico to work on the FIT or leased to mexican industries.
I wonder what happened to MMA 5017?
I think it's in storage at LTEX in Ohio... not positive though. Might be scrapped.
And for just the small sum of $19 a month you can help these sad locos find a new home to ride the rails again.
I heard that Sally Struthers is doing a commercial for them. For just $19 a month you can buy 4 gallons of Diesel for these tired thirsty locos
That F40PH looks shorter than usual
MMA: Exist
BN 5017: I'm about to end this railroad whole career
Lmao facts
Haul a mile long oil train but nah let's keep running a bad engine.
8:32 is that supposed to be in New York?
Nope, that's Lowell, MA.
As much as I love the engines times change and railroads look for better equipment and these locos are outdated, and I'm not saying they aren't going to run again but its not a big possibility
Yeah, I agree. Just the fact that they were sitting in storage for so long doesn't help their cause either. And, as you said, railroads can now get more efficient and modernized locomotives, so the only real possibility would be for a shortline or some small railroad to purchase them.
What happened to 5016 and 5026
I think they're still in storage at Larry's Truck and Electric in Ohio.
@@IsaiahsTrains i hope they don't get scraped cause one of them was involved in a train accident
5017 was the engine that ended MMA.
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On my birthday....
Quit playing with the zoom feature, does nothing for your video.
Oh look a hate comment
I can say without debate that the montreal maine and atlantic railway is hands down the worst railroad in history. They had poor management, poor choices of locomotives, they chose money over safety, they used one man train crews, they left trains parked on grades, and transport canada did not see to it that operations were safe. also, the c30-7 should be banned from service because of their reliability issues. The throttle lagging, the overheating engine, and their poor brakes.
Yes it's sad to see them sitting there. However there life is over. It's time to turn them back into useful steel. They are worn out and not worth the cost to restore them.