Thanks for sharing and doing the video, Joe. Helped me make my decision. For me, clearance is way more important than 0-60 time on my Talon. I have other machinery for 0-60 thrills. Glad the 32's work well.
Good to see a good, honest review about what actually happens when you go up 4" in tire size. So tired of all the fanboy talk about how they couldn't feel any difference when jumping up in tire size. Fortunately it sounds like the gearing is right in 1st and 2nd so you can get some good use out of those 32's. Hopefully the three of you guys can get together soon and do a comparison between all three rigs. I think all three have their own place in the market.
Thanks! We'll be together a couple times over the next few months and will definitely put some related content together. Super happy with the 32's for now. -Joe
I guess it really depends what you want them for. If you're looking to crawl or do some mud, the clearance from the 32's is nice. If you're purely after speed staying close to stock is better.
As long as it works for you that’s the main thing. I feel like a big population of the UTV community just likes to stand around the drag strip and race their buddies. So of course to them 0-60 is everything. Looks really good with the bigger tires. You can always add the turbo later.
I think sport mode is the way to drive the Talon all the time,except when one wants to paddle shift just for fun. Zero to 60 has so little to do with how I ride, but I definitely want to have mid range punch. I suspect your machine will get quite a bit better as it breaks in. You have so few miles that the engine is still really tight. Glad you like them-keep us updated! 👍😎
Very good information for the Talon owners. My Son-in-law has one, so he will be interested, as he does not like the stock tires. Thanks for putting this information out there!
I see already mentioned a few times, bigger tires throw your speedometer off. Every tire revolution you went further on the larger tires so you were going more than 60 mph so it didn't take as long as you thought. to get to 60.
I think if I were to go larger I would want a larger rim. Hopefully might keep the weight down. I wouldn't go 32's on mine, but 30's yes. I can see why you did it on yours. Bet the ride is better also.
Stock tires are 9” wide in front and 11” in rear. Did you have any issues fitting 32x10”R15 on all stock rims in front or rear? Did you have any rubbing issues? I would like to install same set on my Talon 1000R. Im wondering if 4” wider machine will have rubbing issues.
Lower gears seemed normal, 3rd seemed like it came about the same and 4-6 felt/sounded like the revs dropped too low after the shift. To be honest, I set up a camera to monitor the speed at each shift point but for whatever reason, the footage disappeared... Either way, I’m sure it would’ve made a difference to have the transmission in sport mode rather than standard automatic. Hope that helps. -Joe
To do the test the right way you need a radar gun. The 32 inch tires is probably tell the talon it's going 60. But it most likely actually speed is 63 or 65. Which means it will take longer to get up to speed. Showing it takes longer to get up to speed. Not sure if you use a radar gun. Just my thoughts.
doesnt the talon have a "smart transmission" too? i think after time its supposed to adjust to the tires you put on, driving style etc. I dont know how much stock you can put in that, but I think its a feature.
I heard the same regarding smart transmission. I think though for dessert terrain 30's would be a great choice unless you are rock crawling. Thanks for sharing, hopefully someone has the same comparison on 30's.
I have heard same for their trans. That after driving for a while it will remap for tire size. Would like to see another speed test after driven a while.
Hmmm, heard machines learns your driving, but that goes towards shift points, mine as learned auto is lazy, sport is more heavy trail use, er takes shift pints from 4500 to 7500.
Did you happen to get the weights of the Tusks with wheels? I did beadlock wheels with Nitto tires and added 25lbs to each front corner and 20lbs to each rear. oof.
I’m thinking 30’s max. That’s way too much torque loss. Really afraid what I’d lose in the steep terrain where I live (NW Montana). Gotta be able to climb steep. Then again, you could just pop in the Jackson Racing Turbo and be right where you want to be.
There's a formula that should have accurately projected a "zero to sixty" time when you changed the gear ratio (which is effectively what you did when changing tire diameter), but I really don't think that is a meaningful performance figure for most. The bigger tires do so much for the vehicle in other ways that they are almost always a desirable mod. I have always wondered why most manufacturers don't offer larger DOT tires/wheels as a factory option.
Great video, 32's definitely makes a huge difference. i was told the computer after a few miles re learns how to shift with the bigger tires. i have the same ones on my machine and so does my brother. nice choice, perfect tire for here in AZ.
my talon R gave a rough ride on the trails so I switched from stock 28 to 32 tires. My computer did not seem to learn the tire size. I dont mind as I also drive in the AZ desert rocky some times steep terrain. I find myself using low range more often. the brakes and steering definitely feel heavier and slower but they felt razor sharp before the tire change so they are still good. no way I am going back to stock tires
Did you use a gps speed source? If you went with the stock speedo, the larger tires may have given you a false reading. I just picked up the Talon 4 live valve, and I put some beadlocks and 28" Mongrels. I don't really care about top speed, but moreover am interested in crawling, so far SUPER impressed!! Good review!!!
The test I did was with GPS speeds. Full disclosure though, it was on a phone and they can be off by a few MPH as well. I'd like to get some beadlocks as well...They're on the ever-growing list.. -Joe
Very good review, been waiting on someone to do this....... do you have any rubbing issues with the larger tires and just because I'm still in research mode on the Talon X4, how much fuel are you taking with you on these longer trips and have you ever come close to running out on the trail w/the 7 gallon tank?
I haven't had any running through the slow technical or quicker tight cornering stuff. As for the fuel, I haven't been on a long enough trip yet to notice but it's on the list. Loving this rig though! -Joe
Great video thanks. I have a 22 1000R and have been told not to put 32s on because it is hard on the clutches in the transmission. Can you shed some light on this?
Hey Joe. Another question. The fronts are 9" wide and the rears are 11" wide. So you can still put 32/10/15's on both of them? Also are the front and rear wheels (rims) the same width, or are they the same width as the tires? Sorry for so many questions about this but I want to make sure the terrabites will fit. Thanks.
I just picked up a Talon X4 LV and immediately put 32’s on it. I’m still breaking it all in, but haven’t worked up the nerve to try launch mode with the heavier 32’s. Have you had any issues using launch on a heavier tire?
First, great job comparing the differences in tire size. Second, Wow the Honda is slow as molasses. They need to offer a factory turbo with live valve shocks...I might consider one then...until then my x3 turbo does me good
Thanks for watching. We’ll definitely be doing some follow up videos with better speed monitoring and different tires sizes. Factory turbo would be SLICK but I don’t see it happening soon. 3-5 years maybe... -Joe
Ya i got there and they figured it out. I went with Tusk Terrabite 8 ply. They look pretty awesome on the rims, can wait to get them on my Talon. Thanks for the video's they really helped me decide on tire and size
If you're going to re-test your 0-60 times, you should probably use a Draggy or at the very least a GPS for the speed. 4" different in tires is going to throw your speedo off by quite a bit. Yes, the apparent gearing is going to be different, but so is the speedo.
@@DerangedOffRoad Yes, If speedometer was reading 60 in both, 32s would have actually been around 68 mph. It would make a big difference in numbers so it is misleading.
28 to 32 inch tire is throwing off speedometer. A 4inch difference is about a 7.5 to 10.1 mph difference. Is the test being done with radar gun or speedo on vehicle. Some more specifics???? Thanks
Wow, what an insane difference. I went from 29" Bighorns to 32" Carnivores in my 15' RZR XP 1000 and my 0-60, 1/8 mile and 1/4 mile all improved slightly going to the 32s on my Draggy, 3 tenths of a second and almost 2mph faster in the quarter mile. I was thinking I would have to install a clutch kit but so far, no issues...knock on wood lol
@@TheBandit7613 ummm, what is physically impossible? Cause I did 2 runs with each set of tires on it and got the same results....is it physically impossible for a precise GPS system that is designed to measure what it was designed to do? Or physically impossible for you to comprehend that 0.3 seconds less to do a quarter mile is actually getting there faster. Just curious
@@wolvie49er25 Let's talk about this. You have heavier tires that also change the final drive gearing. Tires are flywheels. Larger diameter and heavier tires will take more energy to get moving and to slow or stop. That's simple physics. So you are adding weight, and adding weight in the worst possible place. And you are claiming your machine is actually substantially faster? That's like magic. It violates the laws of physics Unless... You did something you didn't mention, like change the clutch weights, added more turbo boost, something that adds horsepower. Now then, If you install smaller, lighter tires, THEN the machine will be faster. less weight to get moving. Less energy required to turn. What are you not telling us? You had to do something else.
@@TheBandit7613 I'm all for discussion, I have not done any changes to my clutching yet, it is not a turbo so no boost change. I added a GGB exhaust a couple years ago but that's just a slip on muffler that with no tune or intake mods is just sound really. I didn't claim substantial gains, I claimed slight improvement. My 1/4 mile went from 17.10 sec on the 29s to 16.80 seconds on the 32s and my speed went from 70.51mph to 71.95 mph at the 1/4 mile mark. Your running under the assumption that the new tires are heavier, this is not the case. The new rims I purchased are lighter then the stock ones and the Carnivores are one of the lightest tires on the market so the diameter might have changed but the rotating weight has not. If there is no extra weight resistance then why would it affect performance. I'm not gonna lie, i thought I was going to lose some acceleration performance as well, but my Engineer buddy told me that it wouldn't because of all these factors and that I might see no difference to a slight uptick....and bet me on it. Needless to say, the slightly quicker quarter mile cost me a bottle of whiskey. In the end, the numbers don't lie. I have a slight improved 1/8 mile, 1/4 mile and speed at both those destinations. You can choose not to believe, but I have zero reason to lie. In the end I'll probably still do a clutch kit and see what kind of gains I get from that as well. Cheers good sir
@@TheBandit7613 On a side note, i purchased this machine used in 2018 so if the previous owner did a clutch kit on it, I am not aware, just being totally transparent
Thanks for the video on the 32. I have 30 inch tusk terribites and I'm looking to upgrade to 32. I know this video is 2 yrs old. Do you still recommend them or do you have another tire you are running that you like better? I've consider the 30s m1 evils but I really want the 32 inch but I'm afraid they will rub.
I’m now running Tusk megabites. The terrabites a still a great tire. I wanted a little better loose sand and mud performance so I moved to mega’s. Hard to beat the value of the terrabites. -Joe
Great job on the video Joe! Very honest and informative...most people don’t know how much a difference larger tires make on power. I’ve stayed with the stock Bighorns on my YXZ for that reason. I know larger tires would kill my ability to climb hills in Glamis.
Can you tell me the brand of tire those are again . I’m looking to upgrade mine to 32’s . Also was glad to see they didn’t require new rims . They went on the factory rims
Hey Joe, Are these tires 32/10/15 all around. I would like to put these tires on mine as well. Are there any issues with rubbing/scrubbing on the front tires? I just picked up my Talon 1000x-4 and have put on a windshield and mirrors. I purchased OEM front and rear bumpers which I am having painted to match the orange of the Talon. I also have a rear tinted window to install.
You said you kept the stock rims. What's the tire size for the 32s you're running? Are they the same front and rear instead of being fatter in the rear like stock?
I also run 32 inch terrabites on my Talon R and I think they are a Great tire overall, Very Durable. I do wonder if the lack of traction the Terrabite get compared to the stock tire could have played a role? Great vid, Very informative.
They’ve rubbed once or twice is all. Not enough for me to consider forward a-arms. I run air pressure around 10. They’d rub a bit more if I had them at 20+. -Joe
I'm picking up a 2021 base model in late May, what is your actual height of the machine with the 32" tires? I ask this because my garage door is 80" and I don't think it'll fit with anything larger than 30".
Gotta do the turbo if you're gonna go up in tires. Unless you're into rock crawling the machine is going to work harder to push those tires. Looks great but there is a sacrifice.
Phone GPS for the speedo so times probably aren't perfect. I'll be running it again soon after I determine the change the tire size made to my speedo. The speed was secondary in my mind. What said more to me was the amount of time I spent in each of the higher gears. Barely got out of 5th.
did you adjust your speedometer for this test? Maybe you didn't know when you really hit 60. I had a toyota PU I put 31's on and i was going a lot faster when my spedo said 60, so i would have already been doing 60 way before my spedo said
@@DerangedOffRoad so do the wheels line up when looking at it from the rear. People on the forums are claiming I would need a 1.5 in spacer. I have a 2020 1000x4
I think you missed an important consideration with your test. Did you use a hug gun or gps for speed or your speedo? If you relied on your speedometer for the 60 mph, then with the 32's you were actually going faster than 60. This would lead to the much slower times.
Thanks for the reply back, putting 32s of BFG km3 on the wifes 1000r fox live valve. Just wondering what psi you run. Im old school and still run the ATV. I'm usually 2 miles behind her. Lol
James Young Yeah. From what I’ve been told, if your sticking with the stock wheels and staying at 10” or under wide for your tires, there is no need for spacers. My tires are 32x10-15’s -Joe
Good video - I was waitnig for a vid like this. So for rock crawling in low im assuming the 32s wont hurt the power when in low. What do you think? sub'd...
@Deranged Off-Road I like to play in the pits just north of the olive mill some evenings. It's fenced off from the street but access in the rear from the creek bed is open.
If you were using the speedo to figure out your 0-60 times and it wasn't recalibrated your test is flawed and the car lost less acceleration than your numbers indicate.
Ya I’m not spending $30k on a 15 second 0-60 bike. Get your shit together Honda and offer a turbo that doesn’t make my already $30k bike a freakin $36k bike.
I mean if 32” make that much difference imagine if you had 4 people with accessories plus going up a hill .. forget it ... and if you wanted to upgrade with turbo kit 6-7k now your spending more than can am or RZR turbo !!!!
Speed was tested using cell phone GPS. Purchased a dragy and will update the results in a future video. -Joe
You should tune your clutch for the 32s and get the power back.
Thanks for sharing and doing the video, Joe. Helped me make my decision. For me, clearance is way more important than 0-60 time on my Talon. I have other machinery for 0-60 thrills. Glad the 32's work well.
Good to see a good, honest review about what actually happens when you go up 4" in tire size. So tired of all the fanboy talk about how they couldn't feel any difference when jumping up in tire size. Fortunately it sounds like the gearing is right in 1st and 2nd so you can get some good use out of those 32's. Hopefully the three of you guys can get together soon and do a comparison between all three rigs. I think all three have their own place in the market.
Thanks! We'll be together a couple times over the next few months and will definitely put some related content together. Super happy with the 32's for now. -Joe
They also relearn shift points in about 50 miles of having new tires.
I guess it really depends what you want them for. If you're looking to crawl or do some mud, the clearance from the 32's is nice. If you're purely after speed staying close to stock is better.
As long as it works for you that’s the main thing. I feel like a big population of the UTV community just likes to stand around the drag strip and race their buddies. So of course to them 0-60 is everything. Looks really good with the bigger tires. You can always add the turbo later.
True that! The talons with turbo’s installed rip! I’d love to see a four seat R model with a turbo! -Joe
Did you calibrate the speedo for the larger tires?
Larger tires your 0 to 60 could be 0 to 70. I don't know exactly I do know there is a difference.
He didn't need to because he used a cell phone GPS for the speed.
I think sport mode is the way to drive the Talon all the time,except when one wants to paddle shift just for fun. Zero to 60 has so little to do with how I ride, but I definitely want to have mid range punch. I suspect your machine will get quite a bit better as it breaks in. You have so few miles that the engine is still really tight. Glad you like them-keep us updated! 👍😎
You're probably right. I'll tell you this, I had a blast on those 32's this past weekend! LOVE. THIS. RIG.
One of the best technical analysis I have seen.
Very good information for the Talon owners. My Son-in-law has one, so he will be interested, as he does not like the stock tires. Thanks for putting this information out there!
Thanks for taking the time to do all that testing....:)
I see already mentioned a few times, bigger tires throw your speedometer off. Every tire revolution you went further on the larger tires so you were going more than 60 mph so it didn't take as long as you thought. to get to 60.
It's also been said many times that all speeds were measured using gps.
I think if I were to go larger I would want a larger rim. Hopefully might keep the weight down. I wouldn't go 32's on mine, but 30's yes. I can see why you did it on yours. Bet the ride is better also.
Why will they not sell the 4 seater in Canada?!?! I want one!
Stock tires are 9” wide in front and 11” in rear. Did you have any issues fitting
32x10”R15 on all stock rims in front or rear?
Did you have any rubbing issues?
I would like to install same set on my Talon 1000R. Im wondering if 4” wider machine will have rubbing issues.
you have to flash the transmission's ecu... turbo kit offers the mod/tune file.. it changes the shift timing.
did you notice if your transmission shift points were at the same rpm between both tires?
Lower gears seemed normal, 3rd seemed like it came about the same and 4-6 felt/sounded like the revs dropped too low after the shift. To be honest, I set up a camera to monitor the speed at each shift point but for whatever reason, the footage disappeared... Either way, I’m sure it would’ve made a difference to have the transmission in sport mode rather than standard automatic. Hope that helps. -Joe
To do the test the right way you need a radar gun. The 32 inch tires is probably tell the talon it's going 60. But it most likely actually speed is 63 or 65. Which means it will take longer to get up to speed. Showing it takes longer to get up to speed. Not sure if you use a radar gun. Just my thoughts.
Officer Bob was busy with the ole radar gun so we used gps instead
doesnt the talon have a "smart transmission" too? i think after time its supposed to adjust to the tires you put on, driving style etc. I dont know how much stock you can put in that, but I think its a feature.
I heard the same regarding smart transmission. I think though for dessert terrain 30's would be a great choice unless you are rock crawling. Thanks for sharing, hopefully someone has the same comparison on 30's.
I have heard same for their trans. That after driving for a while it will remap for tire size. Would like to see another speed test after driven a while.
Hmmm, heard machines learns your driving, but that goes towards shift points, mine as learned auto is lazy, sport is more heavy trail use, er takes shift pints from 4500 to 7500.
Did you happen to get the weights of the Tusks with wheels?
I did beadlock wheels with Nitto tires and added 25lbs to each front corner and 20lbs to each rear. oof.
I’m thinking 30’s max. That’s way too much torque loss. Really afraid what I’d lose in the steep terrain where I live (NW Montana). Gotta be able to climb steep. Then again, you could just pop in the Jackson Racing Turbo and be right where you want to be.
Or use low range
I’ve had 32’s on mine since day one, it has plenty of power
There's a formula that should have accurately projected a "zero to sixty" time when you changed the gear ratio (which is effectively what you did when changing tire diameter), but I really don't think that is a meaningful performance figure for most. The bigger tires do so much for the vehicle in other ways that they are almost always a desirable mod. I have always wondered why most manufacturers don't offer larger DOT tires/wheels as a factory option.
What size trailer u using to haul it with those 32s on?
With the bigger tires, has the temperature on the clutches gone up? That is my only concern. Thanks
New Tire Diameter:
32
OEM Tire Diameter:
28
Speedometer (MPH):
60
Actual Speed:
68.57142857142857
MPH
Speed Offset:
114.28571428571428
%
All speeds in this video were done by gps
Great video, 32's definitely makes a huge difference. i was told the computer after a few miles re learns how to shift with the bigger tires. i have the same ones on my machine and so does my brother. nice choice, perfect tire for here in AZ.
Thanks! Love it so far! Didn't notice anything on my last ride. - Joe
my talon R gave a rough ride on the trails so I switched from stock 28 to 32 tires. My computer did not seem to learn the tire size. I dont mind as I also drive in the AZ desert rocky some times steep terrain. I find myself using low range more often. the brakes and steering definitely feel heavier and slower but they felt razor sharp before the tire change so they are still good. no way I am going back to stock tires
Thank you for the test! It helps.
I heard you need to get the motor re programed for the bigger tires.have you ask the dealer about that.
Did you use a gps speed source? If you went with the stock speedo, the larger tires may have given you a false reading. I just picked up the Talon 4 live valve, and I put some beadlocks and 28" Mongrels. I don't really care about top speed, but moreover am interested in crawling, so far SUPER impressed!! Good review!!!
The test I did was with GPS speeds. Full disclosure though, it was on a phone and they can be off by a few MPH as well. I'd like to get some beadlocks as well...They're on the ever-growing list.. -Joe
Very good review, been waiting on someone to do this....... do you have any rubbing issues with the larger tires and just because I'm still in research mode on the Talon X4, how much fuel are you taking with you on these longer trips and have you ever come close to running out on the trail w/the 7 gallon tank?
I haven't had any running through the slow technical or quicker tight cornering stuff. As for the fuel, I haven't been on a long enough trip yet to notice but it's on the list. Loving this rig though! -Joe
Great honest, detailed video!
Just like a truck you need to regear it and do some clutch work for the bigger tires
Gerrym91 easier said than done on these having the DCT transmission.
Gear mapping tune. Can be done.
Great video thanks. I have a 22 1000R and have been told not to put 32s on because it is hard on the clutches in the transmission. Can you shed some light on this?
Did you use any spacers?
Hey Joe. Another question. The fronts are 9" wide and the rears are 11" wide. So you can still put 32/10/15's on both of them? Also are the front and rear wheels (rims) the same width, or are they the same width as the tires? Sorry for so many questions about this but I want to make sure the terrabites will fit. Thanks.
Wheels are all the same size and yeah, they are 10" wide all 4 corners. Very slight rub at full turn when you hit a big bump. -Joe
I just picked up a Talon X4 LV and immediately put 32’s on it. I’m still breaking it all in, but haven’t worked up the nerve to try launch mode with the heavier 32’s. Have you had any issues using launch on a heavier tire?
I’ve used it a few times with the 32’s. I don’t use launch mode often though. -Joe
I wonder how that effects the tiny tailing arms it has too.
First, great job comparing the differences in tire size. Second, Wow the Honda is slow as molasses. They need to offer a factory turbo with live valve shocks...I might consider one then...until then my x3 turbo does me good
Thanks for watching. We’ll definitely be doing some follow up videos with better speed monitoring and different tires sizes. Factory turbo would be SLICK but I don’t see it happening soon. 3-5 years maybe... -Joe
Did you use the factory rim offset for the 32" tires? It looks like I may have to run a different offset to get enough clearance. Thanks great video!
Thanks! Yeah, factory wheels, no spacers.
Hey Joe, I just when to big o to put 30x10x15 tires on mine but they are saying they won't fit on the front with stock rims
My 32’s are 10x15’s... guys are Big-O are trying to sell you something else... unless you went with truck tires and they have a much different bead.
Ya i got there and they figured it out. I went with Tusk Terrabite 8 ply. They look pretty awesome on the rims, can wait to get them on my Talon. Thanks for the video's they really helped me decide on tire and size
Hey man, how many inches of ground clearance do you have now with the 32s?
If you're going to re-test your 0-60 times, you should probably use a Draggy or at the very least a GPS for the speed. 4" different in tires is going to throw your speedo off by quite a bit. Yes, the apparent gearing is going to be different, but so is the speedo.
Already planning the follow up... -Joe
GPS was used in this video
@@DerangedOffRoad Yes, If speedometer was reading 60 in both, 32s would have actually been around 68 mph. It would make a big difference in numbers so it is misleading.
Joshua Vondenhuevel gps was used. Not the speedo.
28 to 32 inch tire is throwing off speedometer. A 4inch difference is about a 7.5 to 10.1 mph difference. Is the test being done with radar gun or speedo on vehicle. Some more specifics???? Thanks
Speed was GPS on Phone. Definitely not super accurate but better than reading the speedo. New vid coming soon. Thanks for watching -Joe
Wow, what an insane difference. I went from 29" Bighorns to 32" Carnivores in my 15' RZR XP 1000 and my 0-60, 1/8 mile and 1/4 mile all improved slightly going to the 32s on my Draggy, 3 tenths of a second and almost 2mph faster in the quarter mile. I was thinking I would have to install a clutch kit but so far, no issues...knock on wood lol
Physically impossible.
@@TheBandit7613 ummm, what is physically impossible? Cause I did 2 runs with each set of tires on it and got the same results....is it physically impossible for a precise GPS system that is designed to measure what it was designed to do? Or physically impossible for you to comprehend that 0.3 seconds less to do a quarter mile is actually getting there faster. Just curious
@@wolvie49er25 Let's talk about this. You have heavier tires that also change the final drive gearing. Tires are flywheels. Larger diameter and heavier tires will take more energy to get moving and to slow or stop. That's simple physics. So you are adding weight, and adding weight in the worst possible place. And you are claiming your machine is actually substantially faster?
That's like magic. It violates the laws of physics
Unless...
You did something you didn't mention, like change the clutch weights, added more turbo boost, something that adds horsepower.
Now then, If you install smaller, lighter tires, THEN the machine will be faster. less weight to get moving. Less energy required to turn.
What are you not telling us? You had to do something else.
@@TheBandit7613 I'm all for discussion, I have not done any changes to my clutching yet, it is not a turbo so no boost change. I added a GGB exhaust a couple years ago but that's just a slip on muffler that with no tune or intake mods is just sound really. I didn't claim substantial gains, I claimed slight improvement. My 1/4 mile went from 17.10 sec on the 29s to 16.80 seconds on the 32s and my speed went from 70.51mph to 71.95 mph at the 1/4 mile mark. Your running under the assumption that the new tires are heavier, this is not the case. The new rims I purchased are lighter then the stock ones and the Carnivores are one of the lightest tires on the market so the diameter might have changed but the rotating weight has not. If there is no extra weight resistance then why would it affect performance. I'm not gonna lie, i thought I was going to lose some acceleration performance as well, but my Engineer buddy told me that it wouldn't because of all these factors and that I might see no difference to a slight uptick....and bet me on it. Needless to say, the slightly quicker quarter mile cost me a bottle of whiskey. In the end, the numbers don't lie. I have a slight improved 1/8 mile, 1/4 mile and speed at both those destinations. You can choose not to believe, but I have zero reason to lie. In the end I'll probably still do a clutch kit and see what kind of gains I get from that as well. Cheers good sir
@@TheBandit7613 On a side note, i purchased this machine used in 2018 so if the previous owner did a clutch kit on it, I am not aware, just being totally transparent
Thanks for the video on the 32. I have 30 inch tusk terribites and I'm looking to upgrade to 32. I know this video is 2 yrs old. Do you still recommend them or do you have another tire you are running that you like better? I've consider the 30s m1 evils but I really want the 32 inch but I'm afraid they will rub.
I’m now running Tusk megabites. The terrabites a still a great tire. I wanted a little better loose sand and mud performance so I moved to mega’s. Hard to beat the value of the terrabites. -Joe
@@DerangedOffRoad agreed, it is hard to beat the value. Did the 32s rub at all at full turn? I've been considering the 32 bfg km3s
What did the overall height measure with the 32” tires on?
Great job on the video Joe! Very honest and informative...most people don’t know how much a difference larger tires make on power. I’ve stayed with the stock Bighorns on my YXZ for that reason. I know larger tires would kill my ability to climb hills in Glamis.
Yeah, I won't be climbing China wall anytime soon that's for sure! 😜 -Joe
Deranged Off-Road Lol
Lololol.... china wall was very intimidating.
In the dunes you would run paddles so you could still run stock size for that.
Matthew Lund Yes, it’s really is
Hey Joe...I was thinking about buying a Honda Pioneer...any recommendations with respect to aftermarket cages/roll bars? Thanks. Roy, Glamis CA
You need to get a gear mapping tuner for the 32's
Can you tell me the brand of tire those are again . I’m looking to upgrade mine to 32’s . Also was glad to see they didn’t require new rims . They went on the factory rims
Tusk Megabites
Can you still feel the live valve working with the larger tires?
What is clearance situation with tires on full turn on rubbing suspension?
Hey Joe,
Are these tires 32/10/15 all around. I would like to put these tires on mine as well. Are there any issues with rubbing/scrubbing on the front tires? I just picked up my Talon 1000x-4 and have put on a windshield and mirrors. I purchased OEM front and rear bumpers which I am having painted to match the orange of the Talon. I also have a rear tinted window to install.
Congrats on the new rig! Yup, all 4 corners.
Had a little bit of rub on my ride today. At full crank and hitting a bump. -Joe
You said you kept the stock rims. What's the tire size for the 32s you're running? Are they the same front and rear instead of being fatter in the rear like stock?
32x10-15 all around. - Joe
@@DerangedOffRoad I wonder if that's why it seemed like you didn't gain as much ground clearance in the rear. Wider rims spread them more.
Any truth to transmission reprogramming needed? Only going to 30"s so I would think not.
I also run 32 inch terrabites on my Talon R and I think they are a Great tire overall, Very Durable. I do wonder if the lack of traction the Terrabite get compared to the stock tire could have played a role? Great vid, Very informative.
Thank you!
It Definitely could have. I'm sure the weight played a major role as well. -Joe
How bad do the 32s rub I'm thinking of putting them on mine
They’ve rubbed once or twice is all. Not enough for me to consider forward a-arms. I run air pressure around 10. They’d rub a bit more if I had them at 20+. -Joe
@@DerangedOffRoad do u have 32x10x15 on the front and back
New guy on the block where can I get those 32in tires at here in Oregon
Whats the overall hieght measurement for garage clearance?
Dang that sucks and 32s look sooooo good on your honda
Nice video. I did enjoy it. Only thing is you didn’t have your speedometer recalibrated for the bigger tires so times are not accurate
Times and speeds were done on gps
Deranged Off-Road copy. With that being said. How far off is your speedometer with the 32”.
6-7 mph at 60 -Joe
I'm picking up a 2021 base model in late May, what is your actual height of the machine with the 32" tires? I ask this because my garage door is 80" and I don't think it'll fit with anything larger than 30".
78.5” to the peak of the roof with 12 PSI in tires. I run terrabites and the measure just over 31”. -Joe
Gotta do the turbo if you're gonna go up in tires. Unless you're into rock crawling the machine is going to work harder to push those tires. Looks great but there is a sacrifice.
ummmm, no. clutch kit fixes that.
Do the front tires scrub at all when you turn?
No. 50 miles in on the tires, haven’t had them scrub once. -Joe
I know this video is older but did you calibrate the speedometer
No we didn’t
Don't you need to correct speedometer for tire size? or did you use GPS?
Phone GPS for the speedo so times probably aren't perfect. I'll be running it again soon after I determine the change the tire size made to my speedo.
The speed was secondary in my mind. What said more to me was the amount of time I spent in each of the higher gears. Barely got out of 5th.
Don’t you have to select the tire size in the computer so the transmission adjust accordingly?
Did you do a top speed run? I put 30's on and now my top speed on the speedo only hits 61 now instead of 75 like it did stock. I did not use a GPS.
Did you ever have to balance those 32" or did it run fine with no balancing at all?
We’ve never balanced any of our tires. We don’t do much road riding, but the tires have never been terrible on the road
Are you in sport mode whilst performing these 0-60mph tests sir?
No, standard auto in both. Definitely makes a difference to have it in sport.
Did you buy and extra set of the front rims for the rear to install the 32’s ?
Joe went with all new rims. -Garrett
Did they rub at all ?
did you adjust your speedometer for this test? Maybe you didn't know when you really hit 60. I had a toyota PU I put 31's on and i was going a lot faster when my spedo said 60, so i would have already been doing 60 way before my spedo said
GPS was used
@@DerangedOffRoad fair enough
How off is the speedometer now?
Roughly 11%. At 45 mph in the speedo, I’m doing 50mph. At 60mph, on the speedo I’m doing 67ish mph. -Joe
Did you need spacers with the stock rims
No spacers required, that’s why I kept the stock wheels. I’ll need to add spacers when I put beadlocks on. -Joe
@@DerangedOffRoad so do the wheels line up when looking at it from the rear. People on the forums are claiming I would need a 1.5 in spacer. I have a 2020 1000x4
No, they’re confusing stock wheels with non stock wheels. Mine is same width front to back with 32” Tusk Terrabites on stock wheels. -Joe
Are those tires 32/10/15
What size wheels should I use to run 33s on talon
You can run the stock ones with 33s just fine. 15s will run any size tire you want, it’s a great all around size wheel.
I think you missed an important consideration with your test. Did you use a hug gun or gps for speed or your speedo? If you relied on your speedometer for the 60 mph, then with the 32's you were actually going faster than 60. This would lead to the much slower times.
Gps was used.
How many ply ?
Thank you so Much.
What psi do you run in 32s
10-12. -Joe
Thanks for the reply back, putting 32s of BFG km3 on the wifes 1000r fox live valve. Just wondering what psi you run. Im old school and still run the ATV. I'm usually 2 miles behind her. Lol
I want to know are they good side by side?
Yes, overall the Talon is a great machine!
great vid
It’s ok Dave does way better vids. 👍 -Dave 😀
Good video did u have to use any spacers with those 32's
No spacers with stock wheels - Joe
@@DerangedOffRoad would it be the same setup on a 2020 X 4
James Young Yeah. From what I’ve been told, if your sticking with the stock wheels and staying at 10” or under wide for your tires, there is no need for spacers. My tires are 32x10-15’s -Joe
@@DerangedOffRoad I appreciate the quick response I haven't even picked it up yet 2week wait
So are all 4 tires the same size?
Good video - I was waitnig for a vid like this. So for rock crawling in low im assuming the 32s wont hurt the power when in low. What do you think? sub'd...
While in high gear, I barely noticed in 1st and 2nd. When in low, I noticed no difference at all. It's when you hit 3rd, you start to feel it. -Joe
@@DerangedOffRoad Turbo time 😎
Man, I'd love too! Don't think I could get that past the wife Committee... 😜 -Joe
32s fit on stock talon 1000x-4?
Yes they fit....for the most part. Slight rubbing on the front tires when suspension gets fully compressed
Lis or minus 2” being the ground is nowhere near level /flat.
Who taught you how to measure
Did you change the Speedometer after you put the bigger tires on I think it would change the Speedometer
GPS was used
I think I know the secret location... San tan / queen creek area?
Yup. Unfortunately it’s fenced off now… 😢 -Joe
@Deranged Off-Road I like to play in the pits just north of the olive mill some evenings. It's fenced off from the street but access in the rear from the creek bed is open.
Didn’t realize it was still open from the wash. You may see me down there one day. 😉
@@DerangedOffRoad looking forward to it joe
32" look nice... That's about it.
If you were using the speedo to figure out your 0-60 times and it wasn't recalibrated your test is flawed and the car lost less acceleration than your numbers indicate.
Read the comments...
Time for a turbo I put 51 inches on mine.
33 terrachie Aztecs
So you did not add a programmer...so 0 - 60 on spedo with 32is more like 0-65...fyi... if you want to get accurate results get a gps.
GPS was used as mentioned in the comments and video description.
Ya I’m not spending $30k on a 15 second 0-60 bike. Get your shit together Honda and offer a turbo that doesn’t make my already $30k bike a freakin $36k bike.
Speedo is way off on 32” 60 is likely 68mph
Read previous comments.
Turbo will fix that! LOL
100 hp is just not enough for 1700lb weight machine, all the talon is good for is rock crawling
How many seat time hours do you have in one?
Deranged Off-Road enough
I think what you meant to say is 100hp isn't enough for the riding YOU do.
-Dave
Deranged Off-Road. Yup
I mean if 32” make that much difference imagine if you had 4 people with accessories plus going up a hill .. forget it ... and if you wanted to upgrade with turbo kit 6-7k now your spending more than can am or RZR turbo !!!!
Hey Bubba.....
Getchee turbo dude
That’s. Bad. Really slow.
Ok Bubba……