because they are morons and know absolutely NOTHING about quads. no frickin manufacturer in HISTORY has or would make a 4x4 with two different size tires! idiots
Everyone always asking for more and then complain about the prices if the interior is bugging you go spend the extra 10k on something else let us be able to afford this the while longer.
Wisconsin here. If we have another sledding winter like last year I will be purchasing a sxs. Honda would be the way to go for myself. I own and have owned Honda bikes, snowblower, and a car. The reliability is unmatched. If they made a sled I would own a few of them as well. Are Honda Talon the best sxs out there? Probably not. I’m still going to buy Honda as my other Hondas are bulletproof.
Great video! The rocking back and forth while talking was a bit like being on a boat in rough waters though. Would be fine if it was the zoomed out scene but when the frame is tight its a little disorientating. LoL. Also, if they put 30's on the talon out of the gate you would notice how much that weight slows down a 1000cc naturally aspirated motor. Plus its more strain on the drivetrain. Honda plays it smart by keeping the smaller size and keeping reliability, fuel mileage, and the ability to turn down a warranty claim when someone bombs a transmission due to oversized tires.
It's basically A 2 wd when u use mud tires. Thanks that piece of crap electronic device that plays with the breaks & throws it into the drive when it feels too much traction in the front
I don't think Honda ever took the side-by-side world "by storm". Honda does so well in so many other genres but in the UTV world, they are just "mehhhh". Oh and for those of us weekend warriors that think a real "transmission" is the ticket Vs a CVT, I don't want to hear the whining when it breaks! I'll take the CVT any day of the week, I have no issue repairing a simple gearbox.......I would go Polaris or Kawi over that car 100%
Yep. That's all you hear about over, what... the last 50 years Honda has been making their reputation in reliability.... yep all those blown ATV transmissions. All those blown 3-wheeler transmissions. All those blown 2 and 4-wheel drive quads. OH WAIT! You didn't hear any of that ever. Maybe you should watch the TFL episode where they reviewed a brand new Subaru Outback (CVT) and couldn't climb a dirt hill. Throttle all the way to the floor, but the wheels weren't even turning. Or how about we'll known mechanics like Scotty Kilmer who have been working on every type of vehicle under the sun for the last 50 or 60 years, and they have nothing but bad things to say about CVT's and to stay away from them. If you want to be a lemming, go ahead. But don't polish a turd and tell everyone it's a priceless gem.
I'm a honda fan . They make the best small engines ever ... but in the sxs world they are like a R/T dodge mini van ... basic and very under powered they will never have big sales or compete with polaris or can am still they add power . I mean come on a CF moto is faster
I hate cvt but side by side cvt isn’t the same design and junk Subaru cvt. True cvt breaks but it’s cheaper to maintain than Honda’s DCT. Also DCT is prone to overheating when rock climbing or low speed off roading.
0:23 “That no one had seen before”. Uh, Yamaha YXZ1000R 2017 and updated to sport shift in 2018. Yep, it’s quite possible that Honda took a page out of Yamaha’s book.
This is hilarious! Once you get the Fred Flintstone upgrade for the honda talon is still 1000 years behind everything else! Let's see if honda will wake up and get with the program!
It will be fixed as soon as they add much needed HP. While Can-Am and Polaris are pushing 225 HP and 245 HP Honda is still light years behind in power. 104 HP. What a joke. Stock tires should be 32” now days for a trail rig. If you want 27” tire than buy a recreational UTV not a sport trail rig.
@@aknmtbr The one you maintain properly. It’s like my 2005 Ram 2500 Cummins that still runs like a top. Just like my 1970 Dodge Challenger 440 Magnum that runs better than new. If you keep up the maintenance everything will last.
I had a 2019 Talon 1000R. I even raced it in the northeast. With all the changes in the SXS world, even though I've been a lifetime Honda rider, I will definitely be making the switch to Can Am. I fit better in the Maverick R, more suspension, better handling, way more power, heavier duty drive train. For the price, the Maverick R isn't the cheapest compared to a Talon, but if you bought a Talon, sunk 20k into it, it STILL wouldn't drive, handle, and accelerate like a bone stock Can Am Maverick R.
Sold mine, hated the bronco busting slow driving and nose diving jumping. This would have been a good start 10 years ago but now it's aged and not well.
Agree the Honda is built well and is solid all around. But 100 hp is way way too little, that was introduced in 2014 and was the 'thing'. Now that is about 100 too few to make sense. Also the DCT is a dated design compared to the CanAm offering, drive both and you'll see the difference. I will say the Honda shifts nice, but wimpy overall.
What you’re forgetting about the Honda engine and DCT is that good ole reliability and reputation. 🤷🏾♂️ It brings great confidence knowing that my Talon 1000X4 Live Valve won’t leave us stranded on our trails here in AZ 🌵. I’m not really knowledgeable about CanAm, but I know that Polaris (RZRs in particular) always have something breaking around here where I’m at.🤣😂 The Honda tech and mechs might be “dated”, but they’re proven. Talons might not be the fastest or have a turbo (something else that will probably break), but they’re just as capable. I expect to enjoy mine for many years/miles to come with minimal issues. 🫡 They should put the larger Gold Wing engine in the Talon though. 👍🏾 That’s an improvement that I can get with.
Honda needs to get with it. In Canada the Talon is worth over 30k!!! plus taxes!! There's so many better options for that kind of money, and they're all SIGNIFICANTLY better than what Honda is offering. I can have a 170HP XP Pro for that money, a 200HP X3 for that money... A HEAVILY modified XP 1000 for that. The last one would be my choice, and it's a MUCH better built machine. Honda is out to lunch with their pricing.
Just bought a talon in Canada. The quality is better. The machine operates better. It'll keep it's value as well in Canada. And the conversion of cdn dollar to USD is why it's 34k in Canada. Also there's a Honda endorsed turbo kits for these. Go spend 45k on a turbo machine. It'll lose its value in 6 months.
@@alisheronick8763 You may want to do some math on that champ. Because the conversion leaves you THOUSANDS of dollars short. The quality isn't better, it won't keep it's value, it's a SxS for gods sake... You're making stuff up to make yourself feel better about your purchase.
Play Honda talon sucked in 2019 and still sucks now come still no power Steel rise like shit and interior room sucks. Do you want a non-CVT go Maverick R they got it right
i4wd still Sucks !!!!! For the Mud community.. need a model with real 4wd . Not something that jumps into 2wd wheel drive every time it touches clay with mud tires !!
who will be first....to make a sporty new full closed cabin with AC-heater, powerwindown with 200hp at the wheel with NO rubberbelt ?? kawasaki and honda ows this to all of us...
Why do you guys keep saying 27s in the front and 28s in the back? It has 28" tires front and back.
because they are morons and know absolutely NOTHING about quads. no frickin manufacturer in HISTORY has or would make a 4x4 with two different size tires! idiots
Everyone always asking for more and then complain about the prices if the interior is bugging you go spend the extra 10k on something else let us be able to afford this the while longer.
Wisconsin here. If we have another sledding winter like last year I will be purchasing a sxs. Honda would be the way to go for myself. I own and have owned Honda bikes, snowblower, and a car. The reliability is unmatched. If they made a sled I would own a few of them as well. Are Honda Talon the best sxs out there? Probably not. I’m still going to buy Honda as my other Hondas are bulletproof.
Great video! The rocking back and forth while talking was a bit like being on a boat in rough waters though. Would be fine if it was the zoomed out scene but when the frame is tight its a little disorientating. LoL. Also, if they put 30's on the talon out of the gate you would notice how much that weight slows down a 1000cc naturally aspirated motor. Plus its more strain on the drivetrain. Honda plays it smart by keeping the smaller size and keeping reliability, fuel mileage, and the ability to turn down a warranty claim when someone bombs a transmission due to oversized tires.
I have the Africa Twin. Hopefully you don’t have to disassemble half the machine to change the air filters like you do the AT 😂
I had a 21 X, i liked it but the gas pedal was very touchy
They feel like a bucking bronco but in a bad way.
I have the same talon what did you put the shocks on, mine beats me to death
Those 27" tires don't even belong on a trail model anymore.
Agreed. I'm running 32s on a stock RMAX and they're awesome.
it doesnt have 27’s on the front. You cant have two different height tires on a 4wd. The fact that this dude doesnt know that makes me wonder
Never happened. if u know anything about quads, u know that u can’t have two different sized tires on a 4x4
@dannylooney7348 You can but I'd rather not
Does Honda have anything new coming out?
No lockers?
Rear is a spool..front is a brake activated l.s.d..like Tacoma
It's basically A 2 wd when u use mud tires. Thanks that piece of crap electronic device that plays with the breaks & throws it into the drive when it feels too much traction in the front
I don't think Honda ever took the side-by-side world "by storm".
Honda does so well in so many other genres but in the UTV world, they are just "mehhhh".
Oh and for those of us weekend warriors that think a real "transmission" is the ticket Vs a CVT, I don't want to hear the whining when it breaks! I'll take the CVT any day of the week, I have no issue repairing a simple gearbox.......I would go Polaris or Kawi over that car 100%
Yep. That's all you hear about over, what... the last 50 years Honda has been making their reputation in reliability.... yep all those blown ATV transmissions. All those blown 3-wheeler transmissions. All those blown 2 and 4-wheel drive quads. OH WAIT! You didn't hear any of that ever.
Maybe you should watch the TFL episode where they reviewed a brand new Subaru Outback (CVT) and couldn't climb a dirt hill. Throttle all the way to the floor, but the wheels weren't even turning.
Or how about we'll known mechanics like Scotty Kilmer who have been working on every type of vehicle under the sun for the last 50 or 60 years, and they have nothing but bad things to say about CVT's and to stay away from them.
If you want to be a lemming, go ahead. But don't polish a turd and tell everyone it's a priceless gem.
you must like getting towed home
1:09 Cactus Flats i was just out there :p
Do you recognize the machine quieter than a cvt unit. My wife get migraines from the harmonics of a cvt unit
I thought my 2020 was worse than a cvt machine
I'm a honda fan . They make the best small engines ever ... but in the sxs world they are like a R/T dodge mini van ... basic and very under powered they will never have big sales or compete with polaris or can am still they add power . I mean come on a CF moto is faster
Speed isn’t everything, for example it has a dct, which is much better for utility purposes unlike the pioneer.
I hate cvt but side by side cvt isn’t the same design and junk Subaru cvt. True cvt breaks but it’s cheaper to maintain than Honda’s DCT. Also DCT is prone to overheating when rock climbing or low speed off roading.
Great Information!
Make us a new sport quad…screw these old man SxS’s!
Facts and bring back the 2 strokes. We need a 2025 TRX250R
0:23 “That no one had seen before”. Uh, Yamaha YXZ1000R 2017 and updated to sport shift in 2018. Yep, it’s quite possible that Honda took a page out of Yamaha’s book.
Umm… nah. Honda has a reputation of being the best and innovators for a reason, your Yamaha bias aside.
Make the inside with more room for us taller guys. Leg jammed into the dash😢
At 6'4 ive yet to sit in a talon...that bad? I hear teryx krx has more room
@@machmslf yes, not for tall people. I’m going with a RZR turbo R.
@@trogue33k try sitting in the teryx?
@@machmslf yes, I fit great in a Kawasaki as well. Need better fit and finish and a turbo!
This is hilarious! Once you get the Fred Flintstone upgrade for the honda talon is still 1000 years behind everything else! Let's see if honda will wake up and get with the program!
Hope 2025 brings the needed updates. Then maybe I’ll buy.
I don’t remember the talon being one of the best sxs ever
What about in 2020 when Jaime Campbell crossed the finish line at the Baja 1000 OVERALL FIRST UTV in a barely modified 4-seat Talon?
R-Trim is great but the KraftwerksUSA turbo kits and exhausts really wakes this thing up!
It will be fixed as soon as they add much needed HP. While Can-Am and Polaris are pushing 225 HP and 245 HP Honda is still light years behind in power. 104 HP. What a joke. Stock tires should be 32” now days for a trail rig. If you want 27” tire than buy a recreational UTV not a sport trail rig.
What’s more reliable?
@@aknmtbr The one you maintain properly. It’s like my 2005 Ram 2500 Cummins that still runs like a top. Just like my 1970 Dodge Challenger 440 Magnum that runs better than new. If you keep up the maintenance everything will last.
I had a 2019 Talon 1000R. I even raced it in the northeast.
With all the changes in the SXS world, even though I've been a lifetime Honda rider, I will definitely be making the switch to Can Am.
I fit better in the Maverick R, more suspension, better handling, way more power, heavier duty drive train. For the price, the Maverick R isn't the cheapest compared to a Talon, but if you bought a Talon, sunk 20k into it, it STILL wouldn't drive, handle, and accelerate like a bone stock Can Am Maverick R.
No factory turbo i'm not buying it. also they need to fix the rear end bucking so much
Sold mine, hated the bronco busting slow driving and nose diving jumping. This would have been a good start 10 years ago but now it's aged and not well.
Buddy, this thing has been lagging since the day it was born. Even in 2019 it didn't come close.
Soooo the answer to the title is no? A refresh is desperately needed
Agree the Honda is built well and is solid all around. But 100 hp is way way too little, that was introduced in 2014 and was the 'thing'. Now that is about 100 too few to make sense. Also the DCT is a dated design compared to the CanAm offering, drive both and you'll see the difference. I will say the Honda shifts nice, but wimpy overall.
What you’re forgetting about the Honda engine and DCT is that good ole reliability and reputation. 🤷🏾♂️ It brings great confidence knowing that my Talon 1000X4 Live Valve won’t leave us stranded on our trails here in AZ 🌵. I’m not really knowledgeable about CanAm, but I know that Polaris (RZRs in particular) always have something breaking around here where I’m at.🤣😂
The Honda tech and mechs might be “dated”, but they’re proven. Talons might not be the fastest or have a turbo (something else that will probably break), but they’re just as capable. I expect to enjoy mine for many years/miles to come with minimal issues. 🫡
They should put the larger Gold Wing engine in the Talon though. 👍🏾 That’s an improvement that I can get with.
I’m sorry, but how you lean into the camera then back off then lean into it and back off is annoying
Big tires ruin handling.
@ huh?
@@flight2k5 comment glitched out.
@@Bigbossman12624 so what’s the correct comment?
@@flight2k5 was supposed to go under another person, not you. Guy was saying all sxs’s need to come with 32s. Very annoying when people say that.
Honda needs to get with it. In Canada the Talon is worth over 30k!!! plus taxes!! There's so many better options for that kind of money, and they're all SIGNIFICANTLY better than what Honda is offering. I can have a 170HP XP Pro for that money, a 200HP X3 for that money... A HEAVILY modified XP 1000 for that. The last one would be my choice, and it's a MUCH better built machine. Honda is out to lunch with their pricing.
Honda will be worth a lot more money in 5 years then a Polaris for the other ones
Just bought a talon in Canada. The quality is better. The machine operates better. It'll keep it's value as well in Canada. And the conversion of cdn dollar to USD is why it's 34k in Canada. Also there's a Honda endorsed turbo kits for these. Go spend 45k on a turbo machine. It'll lose its value in 6 months.
@@alisheronick8763 You may want to do some math on that champ. Because the conversion leaves you THOUSANDS of dollars short. The quality isn't better, it won't keep it's value, it's a SxS for gods sake...
You're making stuff up to make yourself feel better about your purchase.
Honda will last 3 times longer than those you mentioned
Have almost 60 days with my 24 model R. Love it so far!
Very Nice High Quality Units!
Just traded my Talon for an expedition they are just so far behind the competition. Still love the Honda but they need to update their cabin
I wish for a new trx450r That is efi and I wish for a new trx400ex that is efi for 2026
I disagree. Much DIS-respect should be given to all the manufacturers using CVT transmissions.
Junk
Everyone is running 37s now come on lol Hondas are so far behind in every single way
Interesting!
They shit the bed it needs turbo
Can you say schill
Bigger tires will increase the price! Not everyone wants or needs bigger tires. Dor those that do, buy them after the fact!
That’s not necessarily true
Play Honda talon sucked in 2019 and still sucks now come still no power Steel rise like shit and interior room sucks. Do you want a non-CVT go Maverick R they got it right
Till their
transmission s***'s the bed
i4wd still Sucks !!!!! For the Mud community.. need a model with real 4wd . Not something that jumps into 2wd wheel drive every time it touches clay with mud tires !!
who will be first....to make a sporty new full closed cabin with AC-heater, powerwindown with 200hp at the wheel with NO rubberbelt ?? kawasaki and honda ows this to all of us...
That's called a jeep or a truck.
@@PondstompingAdventuresjeeps suck quick bringing it up when people ask for side by sides
u stole the words out my mouth. a jeep would be cheaper tho. lol