The Week of Elden Ring (The Sequel) | Dropped Frames Episode 392

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    Happy Father's Day! We learn all about the trials and tribulations of dad's on the toilet, the wait for the Elden Ring DLC is rough! Twitch gets a new app. FROM Software CEO Hidetaka Miyazaki wants to go back to Bloodborne, Elden Ring hits 25 million sold. Cohh has some STRONG opinions about the new Dragon Age game and we go over our favorite games from this month's Steam NEXT Fest!
    0:00 - Happy Father's Day
    3:10 - New Elden Ring patch!
    5:00 - Elden Ring troubleshooting
    9:50 - Twitch raining bits
    14:00 - Twitch CEO's follow list/New Twitch app
    23:00 - Poopmaxxing
    28:00 - Cohh on Dragon Age: Veilguard
    40:00 - Bloodborne part 10
    45:40 - Elden Ring makes it to 25 million sold
    58:20 - Bluey
    1:01:30 - Diablo 4 Vessel of Darkness trailer
    1:04:50 - Avowed gameplay
    1:08:20 - Starfield Creation
    1:16:00 - BREAKING NEWS: Starfield
    1:18:00 - Best reviewed games of 2024 (so far)
    1:20:10 - Shin Megami Tensei V: Vengeance
    1:29:20 - Steam NEXT Fest
    - The Alters demo
    - SWORN
    1:31:20 - Zeke's list of 50 demos
    - Drillcore
    1:54:35 - Steam family account
    1:57:00 - Shoutouts
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ความคิดเห็น • 111

  • @itmeJP
    @itmeJP  19 วันที่ผ่านมา +147

    For what its worth, a viewer helped sus out the issue. Turns out, when my wireless mouse / keyboard would go "inactive" it would cause the game to stutter. Plugging them in to charge / making sure to keep them active so they wouldn't go to sleep while playing removed all the issues. Insane. Thanks, Kinjara!

    • @HokiHoshi
      @HokiHoshi 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      Wait you mean there's now a proven instance of chat actually helping the streamer fix a tech issue?

    • @issalga
      @issalga 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@HokiHoshi even a broken clock is right twice a day

    • @thethirdfrog
      @thethirdfrog 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you for the closure on this issue, much appreciated.

    • @LanceDH
      @LanceDH 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hey I think this might be an anticheat thing or so. I had the same issue with a bad USB cable charging my phone. If you nudge it the phone tends to disconnect. It's might be something reacting to a change in hardware.

  • @Charbizard1
    @Charbizard1 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +59

    Zeke was asked about his bathroom habits. Then he delivered.

    • @awgmax
      @awgmax 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I'm in zeke's camp. i sit down, mere seconds later everything is out in a nice log, wipe, get up. The whole thing takes maybe 2 minutes. That's what a good diet/gut bacteria health does for you.
      it also astounds my mates. They think i'm lying, or that i only peed.

    • @gremlin4304
      @gremlin4304 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@awgmax I think it's also related to how often one poops. I take 20 minutes or so (thorough clean-up included), but I poop every other day.

  • @Whirl435
    @Whirl435 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    44:10 when the Bloodborne remake talk starts - am I crazy, or did Cohh repeat everything JP just said without listening to him? Lol

    • @SaladXIV
      @SaladXIV 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      It was actually wild lol Cohh seems in another world on the podcast sometimes

    • @WoofDaLock
      @WoofDaLock 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      I was literally like "Does Cohh have JP muted?" If I was JP I would have been such a sarcastic ass in response. "Yeah gee Cohh, such an insightful comment that no one else just made."

  • @Robalogot
    @Robalogot 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    I would go crazy as JP having to do a podcast with Cohh... The moment something isn't within his interests, he basically ignores his cohosts and does whatever, listening with a half ear. And this time he tries to gaslight JP, trying to blame him for not speaking clearly. It's so fucking disrespectful, like how at times he's playing a game while doing the podcast... Seriously, if you don't have the basic decency to give the other people the same attention as they give you, you have no business being on a podcast, and you might have an addiction problem. He seems like a nice guy, but I wouldn't be able to tolerate that in a professional setting, not even in a casual conversation.

    • @jeremyherrmann5460
      @jeremyherrmann5460 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Agreed

    • @TeddieSage1987
      @TeddieSage1987 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Oh please, relax. They're friends. It's fine. Everything is fine.

    • @MuuMiFin
      @MuuMiFin 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Why are people in TH-cam comment sections always so weird? Like dude relax, its not that big of a deal lol. They are 3 friends talking about video games, its not like its some serious business.

    • @eobet
      @eobet 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I was a weird episode…

  • @Zendien
    @Zendien 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    I love that the entire start of the podcast is PC troubleshooting talk :D

  • @crit-c4637
    @crit-c4637 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    A small correction on the esrb discussion. The esrb was created because Congress was holding hearings and drafting bills to regulate gaming content disclosure and many publishers didn't want that to be under a body they couldn't directly control. So they made a deal to form a self-regulatory body that became the esrb under the ESA (the group behind the former convention, E3).

  • @Jhakri_
    @Jhakri_ 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    ♪ Three old dudes talking 'bout poop ♪

  • @bittrippn6570
    @bittrippn6570 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    Can Cohh give a straight fuckin answer... like ever? Dude is a pro-level yapper.

  • @swedishZ0mBi3
    @swedishZ0mBi3 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Great podcast, thanks for uploading to youtube. Yeah I have like 5 months to wait until fathers day comes around here in Europe lol. According to Wikipedia there's like 10 different days of celebrating this around the world. Wild!

  • @LordlyWeeb
    @LordlyWeeb 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Was kinda hoping Cohh would be a little interested in SMT V:Vengeance. I like seeing Persona fans play a mainline SMT game for the first time.

    • @TheEregos
      @TheEregos 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It's so damn good too I wish the same, same with Zeke.

  • @Animehermit
    @Animehermit 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    The timeline for Dragon Age is long but Cohh got a lot of stuff wrong
    It STARTED as a single player game in 2015, then EA rebooted as a multiplayer GAAS game, then after Anthem failed and Jedi: Fallen Order did well did they reboot it a 3rd time to be a strictly single player offline, no microtransactions or EA account shenagian situation.
    Also the comment from the game director was target specifically about the mmo like nature of some of the side quests in Inquisition.

  • @casualclark1069
    @casualclark1069 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Happy Father’s Day, fellow gamers!

  • @Morden97
    @Morden97 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    People wanted to play BG3, as evidenced by its HUGE numbers on steam with a crazy tail as well, but not necessarily watch someone play BG3.

    • @emikochan13
      @emikochan13 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      that kinda game is uninteresting when you don't have your characters and choices

  • @varianngaming9403
    @varianngaming9403 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    I don't understand why Cohh was expecting anything different for the new Dragon Age, he's played Inquisition, what made him think they were going back?

    • @Redroomjjgfd
      @Redroomjjgfd 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Because people have been asking for 10 years, don't act like fans asking for a change has never happened. Use your brain man, we both know devs can change things, they just didn't this time and probably never will now that we know.

    • @varianngaming9403
      @varianngaming9403 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

      @@Redroomjjgfd You use your brain, Inquisition is their highest selling Dragon Age game, they were never going back so to expect otherwise and then getting upset about it when they show the game is ridiculous.
      I'm someone who prefers Origins btw, it's just weird that people were expecting something that we knew was never happening.

    • @neurololz
      @neurololz 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      @@Redroomjjgfd anyone expecting them to go back to DA:O style is completely deluded at this point, I'm sorry, DA:O was 15 years ago

    • @pawe1721
      @pawe1721 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      And he also enjoyed Inquisition? I understand his preference but it's not like he was forced to 100% Inquisition by some evil lords. And the way he talks about it feels like he tolerates it at most.

    • @Einomar
      @Einomar 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@neurololz Bg3 proves you wrong. DA origins was the spiritual successor to Bg 1 and 2, the difference between DA origins and bg3 is the combat. Bg3 has turn based combat and DA origins had real time with pause. Bg3s success proves that type of crpg can be very successful.

  • @Justin-ee1mv
    @Justin-ee1mv 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    57:55 Good one Zeke you made me laugh LULW

  • @libramartin
    @libramartin 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Cohh says we won't see another Origins, but really, they started working on the Veilguard like 7 years ago, now after the successes of Larian and Owlcat, they just might come back to the CRPG format.

  • @synthiandrakon
    @synthiandrakon 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    With kai it's cool because he and his fans and a lot of his associates have a specific type of gaming background. They grew up playing call of duty, Madden, nba2k and so there is like a real opportunity to expand the community. Because those people are already gamers, they already own a console, and now they're being exposed to games they might not have given the chance to before

  • @johnnybradata6847
    @johnnybradata6847 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I like Cohh's speech about boycotting games and i agree with it. Oh btw i can't find his Hogwarts Legacy playthrough, nvm i'm probably not searching right.

    • @MuuMiFin
      @MuuMiFin 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      So you're saying his boycotting every single game in the world he hasn't played?

  • @bigbadferg1649
    @bigbadferg1649 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Zeke was so focused on whether he could talk about pooping that he forgot to ask the important question of whether he should or not.

  • @Justin-ee1mv
    @Justin-ee1mv 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Can’t wait for all those let’s play

  • @cerealofdoom2125
    @cerealofdoom2125 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Fathers day is in 19 of March in Portugal

  • @Ayay01
    @Ayay01 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    you get drip feed 35 buck dlc from Bethesta and Coh seem hopeful ..will never ever get that lol

  • @TheEregos
    @TheEregos 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The Bethesda rage thing is odd they just do it for the launch, the creation club is an awesome thing in general. It allows for mods to get on console without modding a console, not only that but people make a living from it outside of Bethesda. Many get hired too.
    I wish more games did this especially Paradox titles.

  • @Squallcloud95
    @Squallcloud95 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That poop conversation wad gold! Hahaha!

  • @nicolasferreiro4492
    @nicolasferreiro4492 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    DA2 didn't go superwell. If anything, they dumb down the games that were more successful despite having failed in that approach already.

  • @RidePuppets4Justice
    @RidePuppets4Justice 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I was giggling like an idiot during the poop talk, I'll never grow up 😂

  • @matthewc5828
    @matthewc5828 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The poop talk is everything I've dreamed of. This shit is so damn funny lol!!

  • @goblinerr
    @goblinerr 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I can’t seem to hear what cohh says at 7:00 where can I find the fix for video memory/voltage issue?

  • @Choteron3
    @Choteron3 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    I surprised that Cohh is surprised that the upcoming Dragon Age will not be like the first one. After Origins each iteration of this franchise was combat orientated instead of tactical.
    Also the rumors before the trailer said that the combat would be like God of war.

    • @Redroomjjgfd
      @Redroomjjgfd 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Because its been asked of them for over 10 years? That's reason enough to hope for it, don't act like it's unreasonable to think that way. Its not.

    • @velodor2267
      @velodor2267 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      ​@@Redroomjjgfd Devs will iterate towards whatever sells better. To expect a return to DA:O is naive.

    • @olsongc8422
      @olsongc8422 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I've seen people talk about how the gameplay was like BG3, and I'm wondering it was ever like that.

    • @Nik202_
      @Nik202_ 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@olsongc8422 DA:O was adjacent I'd say. In that it's CRPG but BG3 is the peak of it. Like, that studio has built itself for the past 15 years to be able to make games like BG3. Bioware pivoted. Their constraints, goals, and studio structures are in two totally different places. My perspective is that I've got 2 different flavors of cake that I love for different reasons.

    • @tangentkatz
      @tangentkatz 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Yeah, it's weird to me is people who expected it to be like Origins. That was 15 years and 3 games ago. Maybe if BG3 had its success years ago they would have considered it but it will 4+ years until we see any BG3 effect if it happens at all.

  • @Rixstarian
    @Rixstarian 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    1:14:09 If Bethesda had created a compelling world in their own game, there might be less of a drive for JP to want one in another. People tolerate Bethesda's engine because of the worlds that were built, but if that isn't even adequate, what's the point of it?

  • @ericmielke9821
    @ericmielke9821 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This week on Dropped Loads

  • @MrNikoSrb
    @MrNikoSrb 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Zeke and Stardew Valley " explain how that works " HAHAHAHA

  • @justinwyatt7224
    @justinwyatt7224 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Have kids and our TV stays on Disney Plus with Bluey streaming for hours at the time - can confirm Bluey is A++

  • @sethchapman1425
    @sethchapman1425 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    What if you liked each Dragon Age for what they were and enjoyed each for entertaining you.

  • @evidicus
    @evidicus 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    Dragon Age: VG is made for people who consider the combat a necessary evil between the kissing parts

    • @pawe1721
      @pawe1721 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I've never played these games for combat because no matter the focus it was clunky at best. Story is where it's at but I can't tell if VG will deliver.

    • @timurdos
      @timurdos 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      rose-tint and all that. i replayed DAO last year and it was sooo bad (the combat i mean).
      RTwP is even worse than infinity engine games, one of the most popular mods for DAO is faster combat and combat overhauls.

    • @evidicus
      @evidicus 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@timurdosthe combat in DAO is pretty solid actually, especially with the ability to customize the AI in great detail. Extremely impressive, especially for 2009. It’s not rose colored glasses or nostalgia either. Just like the Nemesis System from Mordor, the tactics system from DAO is an innovation that many people at the time thought would see use in other future games.
      The fact that modern players try to mod DAO to be more of an ARPG than a CRPG is no reflection on the quality of the original game.

  • @telkaivokalma
    @telkaivokalma 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    New Steam Family beta is legit awesome, especially for avoiding these situations. High rec.

  • @Redroomjjgfd
    @Redroomjjgfd 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I just wish Starfield's writing wasn't cold garbage. The gameplay loop wouldn't have affected me as much if I was seeing interesting dialogue. I'm glad they're getting experience developing different things though.

    • @esaedvik
      @esaedvik 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      And for some weird reason, the voice acting is super stiff for 90% of the characters. Even Toufexis is bland as heck. Feels like the voice director would be to blame...It's a pain to even watch it. Tbh, I was sure they'd just not release anything for it and forget about it. The updates that drizzled in a few months after release were so ridiculously sparse for a AAA game.

  • @Squallcloud95
    @Squallcloud95 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yup! I never went to the Haligtree in Elden ring. So the DLC will have to wait a bit!

  • @sumireravenclaw8034
    @sumireravenclaw8034 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Depending on the games, if a game is coming out VERY soon. and they have a demo. they will sometimes say purchase. but a game that is coming out much later you can usually play. I've downloaded demos where the game came out a in a month. and after the demo days was done they game stopped saying play and it turned blue with a purchase symbol.

  • @Justin-ee1mv
    @Justin-ee1mv 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Let’s go steam next fest dropped frames

  • @gilneyn.mathias1134
    @gilneyn.mathias1134 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    For a second there i thought i was watching 'Trash Taste' 🤔

  • @Justin-ee1mv
    @Justin-ee1mv 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I wonder how many concurrent players will play Elden Ring on the DLC release

  • @BloodyBobJr
    @BloodyBobJr 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Where's that guy? Thanks for fast upload guy

  • @issalga
    @issalga 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "Bloodborne part 10" timestamp got me

  • @broken_beast89
    @broken_beast89 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Father’s Day is Hallmarks version of needing a psn account. If Hallmark is not available in your country, you can’t participate, even if you you previously bought your card from Walmart.

  • @Justin-ee1mv
    @Justin-ee1mv 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Let’s go Hollywood animal mentored by Zeke Yippie

  • @Justin-ee1mv
    @Justin-ee1mv 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I do appreciate the Shit segment and understanding the shits of these 3 wonderful individual

  • @78kelab1
    @78kelab1 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My god the flashbang! Please turn on dark mode.

  • @dannyb016
    @dannyb016 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can we have a section of the show every week solely dedicated to Zeke's Poop schedule?

  • @Dinosberg
    @Dinosberg 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Destiny 2 Expansion also only has about 10 reviews though. We will see how it fares when it has as many reviews as Rebirth.

  • @Justin-ee1mv
    @Justin-ee1mv 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Pog

  • @synthiandrakon
    @synthiandrakon 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    GTA 6 success is dependant on many things. It'll definitely do well as a single player story game but at this point being brutally honest, GTA 6 isn't being made to be a good single player story game, the entire reason the game is being made is to act as a vehicle for GTA online 2. And the suits will want GTA online 2 to make more money than the current GTA online which I think is far from a certainty. GTA 6s success will be determined by how well GTA online 2 holds it's player base which like who knows. I mean rdr online didn't do that well,

  • @Razzying
    @Razzying 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I was not prepared for 3 people dedicating a good chunk of time just talking about pooping.

  • @evanstevens3201
    @evanstevens3201 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    For people who listen/watch to twitch at work the mobile app is complete shit. 😅

  • @aduboo29
    @aduboo29 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Cohh saying 'Many didn't like the old RPG, it was too complex' is such an eye roll. I love complex RPGs, but boy, Origins was not one of them. Even Origins was pretty basic by cRPG standards, janky as hell and already had one foot in over-the-shoulder action gaming. I'm excited for Veilguard because it's the first time Dragon Age has picked one god damn genre and not tried to do two things at once. No tactical camera, no bouncing between party members. They said 'We're an action game now' and build a game for that.
    Honestly? I'd probably like the game more if they'd gone the OTHER way, but I also haven't seen any evidence in over a decade that Bioware can produce a good cRPG. But I like the Mass Effect games so if we're going to go down that road with Dragon Age? At least they're not trying to please everyone and might make a game with a clear gameplay vision for once. And hell, Andromeda was a 3-ability action RPG game the combat was the only thing I thought that game did really well.

  • @captfish100
    @captfish100 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    woah woah woah I rarely disagree with Cohh but Skyrim was NEVER awesome. I 100% disagree.

  • @TheDoctor4221
    @TheDoctor4221 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    ...cohh needs some meds for these attention issues lol. Just blatantly ignoring everyone

  • @voxkine9385
    @voxkine9385 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Give me Origins, or save me $70!!!

  • @synthiandrakon
    @synthiandrakon 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Rdr2 was hurt by the fact it didn't launch on PC content wise. Because content creators are disproportionately pc players and many of them just don't want to buy a console to play one game. GTA 6 on the other hand might force streamers to buy a console

  • @Armoogeddon
    @Armoogeddon 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    People being shocked/mad about the Dragon Age Veilguard gameplay makes no sense to me. Pushback towards the goofy hero-shooter tone of the original reveal trailer at least has some logic behind it, but this?
    Dragon Age has been trend-chasing since DA2 , and this was the obvious end trajectory. The only similarity that united the previous 3 Dragon Age games was the focus on narrative, lore and characters. People also argued that Dragon Age: Origins was "simplified" when it was current, compared to the Infinity Engine games. Dragon Age combat has never been that deep or crunchy, Bioware's focus was always on the narrative and companions. The most "tactical" Origins ever got was pausing the game and aiming the spells of your tactical nuke of a "Mage" at the biggest clump of enemies.
    People just want to be mad about something 🤷‍♂

  • @megascoops
    @megascoops 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Hot take--most of the CRPG-lite elements of DAO and DA2 haven't aged well at all. And DAI is a joke from a RTwP perspective.

    • @Redroomjjgfd
      @Redroomjjgfd 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I don't know if its “lite” though, I'm not against the term but it seemed like a normal CRPG system when I played it?

    • @megascoops
      @megascoops 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Redroomjjgfd i personally feel it’s accurate for DAO and DA2. Aside from the RTwP mechanic, i felt it was more in line with World of Warcraft gameplay than something youd expect from pathfinder or pillars of eternity. Neither game really feel like a CRPG to me. So I’m kinda confused on people’s consternation here.
      I still like them and I think Cohh made a mistake not replaying DA2 last year. Best story/squad imo. Should play it on Normal though, because Bioware difficulty equates to high-HP punching bags.

  • @losvikings2584
    @losvikings2584 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Think it like this: old Simpsons will be loved by fans who grew up with that and new fans liking the new ones.
    Game is for new generation so give them a chance to like games

    • @mrtecnhimuyo
      @mrtecnhimuyo 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      its for new fans but story shouldve been reboot

  • @countryc0unt
    @countryc0unt 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Cohh fawning over any basic QoL in Elden Ring is kinda weird tbh. FromSoft doesn't need even more praise (deserved or otherwise) for implementing basic features than they are already getting.

    • @nolanlehman6392
      @nolanlehman6392 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They've made some of the most successful and influential games in the industry. They're allowed to be praised for whatever the hell people wanna praise

    • @countryc0unt
      @countryc0unt 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@nolanlehman6392 i am guessing you are one of the people who went "A JUMP BUTTON?! REVOLUTIONARY!!!! MIYAZAKI DID IT AGAIN, GAMING IS SAVED WHO WOULD HAVE EVER THOUGHT OF JUMPING IN A VIDEO GAME"

  • @jaydunna2645
    @jaydunna2645 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    but....Dragon Age moved away from crpg a long time ago...this isnt new.

  • @cokeMONSTERps3
    @cokeMONSTERps3 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    It's okay to defend Origin's gameplay.
    It's not okay to defend Nu-Dragon Age gameplay.
    Please stop shouting at me.
    I have no stake in the latest flavor of the month argument, but cmon. I bet you wouldn't see the arguments from the other side as "shouting" if you happened to enjoy the new gameplay.

  • @adrianmichael9863
    @adrianmichael9863 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    yeah to me the only dragon age is origins, MAYBE 2 but yeah the series is dead to me. new or spinoff is fine, change imo is always bad.