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Courting controversy today, when I recommend the quartz version of a watch OVER the auto. Shock horror! I got a stellar deal on it, whihc undoubtedly helps shape my opinion of this one, but I'm getting increasingly bored of setting and winding autos every day. More quartz, Vicar? Cheers, Jody
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I've never understood the hatred for quartz. I have a couple of them and I love the utility, the grab-and-go. I also love mechanical watches, the idea that you have springs and gears moving along as you go through your day really appeals to me in this increasingly digital world. I don't think the love for one excludes love for the other. Great video as always.
I don’t know why quartz gets hate either. Considering it’s a huge advancement that caused a 70’s quartz crisis should have more people happy to wear them (especially if you lived through that time). Quartz are nice to have just for a switch up when you don’t feel like winding a watch or letting it run for days knowing you only wore it one day and it’ll have a power reserve for 50+ hours.
Agree. The Seiko quartz watches of the 70-80s were as cutting edge as any piece. Jeweled, built to last and service and beautifully made. This was pre the cheap nasty plastic movements. I have a twin quartz that is thermocompensated and accurate to 15sec a year. At the time in Japan it would cost you a few thousand Oz. It was a luxury buy. Respect!
I don't hate Quartz, I own a couple, I just find mechanical more appealing.
No hate. I have 5, but to a collector automatics are more interesting
Same here.
I love my autos but have several quartz and enjoy them just as much. 👍👍
The solar just pushes it over the top. This is all the watch you'd ever need. I used to be an auto snob but more and more I'm loving solar seikos, citizens and casios. Just so nice to never have to set, wind or change a battery.
Same here.
Fair enough
"everytime i think i'm out they pull me back in"
Jody's relationship with Seiko 😂😂
Yeah I thought he was stopping reviews of Seiko watches.
Did jody ever explain it? I don't think I was able to catch it?
He said he would stop to review EXPENSIVE Seikos.
Jody saying “no more seiko”: 🖐
Jody seeing a great deal: 🖖
Coke or Pepsi, Quartz or Automatic, Star Wars or Star Trek. It’s always there for people to argue about. Some of us are content with loving both. That’s why I dig your channel, brother.
I can tell I'm too into this hobby when my first thought to your comment was "what's a Coke bezel?"
More find of the root beer bezel myself lol
Neither, both, both
Quartz or auto?
Grand Seiko: yes
Vinyl vs. CDs is a great analogy! I've never heard anyone put it that way before.
I enjoy mechanical watches but as I am lucky to be able to have a modest collection, not exclusively. Quartz have their place and there are some beautiful pieces about. Honestly by being blind to quartz as a category you will miss out on the whole other world of horology.
I am over quartz. I've had four quartz watches (Seiko, Citizen, and a mountaineering watch whose name escapes me) and one mechanical auto -- a used Rolex datejust from the 1970s over the past 30 years. On the mountaineering you use a nickel to twist off the batter cover, but I stripped it out. The others I'd have to take to a jeweler (try to find a watch shop these days), and $15 or $20 and the time to do a roundtrip to drop off and pick up is just too irritating. Have never spent a dime on the Rolex over all these years, nor had to make battery replacement trips. So my last two watches have been mechanical automatics.
I'd be OK with a ten year battery... a combination battery/solar, but that's about it.
@@larrydunn4626 I’ve got maybe 7 quartz watches and a few dozen mechanical. Between a fine screwdriver set and a swiss army knife I’ve never had to pay anyone to swap batteries
I have a uniform wares overpriced quartz, but absolutely love it. 2 hand, beyond minimal. Admittedly stupid.
That totally depends on how you look at watches. Yeah, quartz does have its place in the world of horology, no doubt about it. Quartz watches can do stuff that mechanical watches can’t, no doubt about that, too, but a quartz watch in my opinion is just that - a watch, while a mechanical watch even in its simplest form is a piece of art. Making a hundred or more pieces come together to work precise is not an easy feat and I’m talking about the days of yonder when all watches were completely handmade, which nowadays is reserved to some of the luxury brands. The way some mechanical movements look due to their decoration is just mind blowing. Take the back off a quartz watch on the other hand and it’s the exact opposite of a stunner.
I acknowledge the existence of quartz watches and I acknowledge their place in horology, but they’re definitely not for me! I prefer a proper mechanical watch over a quartz one any time of the day and to say I’m missing out because I don’t get into them isn’t true either. That’s like saying you’re missing out in the world of fruit because you don’t like oranges. What advantage would eating an orange bring me, if I don’t like the taste?! I know what quartz watches can do, but I don’t need them apart from the countdown function when I cook, for that I use the quartz watch in my mobile phone, but even that could be replaced by a mechanical one, if I wanted to, but I’m not that anal about it. 🙂
I’m also not a fan of single use batteries. The only watch that is part quartz that I’d actually like to own is one with a spring drive movement, which in my opinion is the first new technology to power a watch since the dawn of quartz.
@@pacovl46 With modern computerized production methods, it doesn't require "artists" to make a very precise mechanical watch any more. Why do you think Seiko Turtles and Samurais are so cheap? And, yes, they'll last just as long as a Rolex; I've had both.
When I first started collecting watches, I was an auto snob. I still like automatic watches, and manual-wind mechanicals, but I’ve wised up. G-Shocks converted me, and I’m now a quartz watch fan too!! I’m in radio, and one of the cool parts about a quartz digital watch (this also applies to mechanicals and Ana-digis made to be anti-magnetic) is that I can spend hours working around speakers, transmitters and other equipment without worrying about my watch getting magnetized, so now I’ll buy a mechanical or a quartz, as long as I like the look and features of the watch.
Some of the watch snobs hating quartz movements on seikos will still bend over for a g shock or a casio. Maybe it's the price difference? Plus I don't really count solar modules as quartz - more like quartz 2.0 or quartz +
Casio have never made a mechanical watch. If you want a tough watch, there's no competition.
I dont know that many people actually hate quartz. I have one that gets used for sailing. It works but is not interesting I'll probably get another when its done (they definitely don't last like mechanicals in my experience ) but one at a time is enough.
@@rw2266 perhaps I was a little harsh! After all watches can be such a marmite topic
Like most of us here, I have mechanical, G-Shock, Solar & regular quartz. Love em all, but I must admit my favorites are Citizen Promasters (1 on diver strap, other on bracelet). They just run & need nothing, look great, great lume. Maybe some find that boring bcz no need to tinker with them. I do understand this as I love setting & winding my mechanicals. That's why it's good to experience them all.
I flatly do not understand the love of the G-Shock or other Casio digital watches amongst watch enthusiasts ... I assume it must be some sort of weird nostalgia thing (and I'm a little older than these typical G-Shock lovers, so maybe its a generational thing).
When I first got into watches, everyone around me said dont buy quartz ugh buy a mechanical! And I've purchased zero quartz till last year and wow it's a life changer! I love my quartz pieces as much as my mechanicals and couldn't be happier with what I have
Always nice having a quartz in the collection. Sometimes you don’t want to have to worry about setting the time or date, you just want to pick something up that you know is already set and ready to go.
The only problem I’ve ever had with Quartz is the 3-5 year battery change, but Solar has mostly solved that problem.
I am loving the quartz. I am getting sick of adjusting the autos in my collection twice a week.
Thank you Jody - Seiko quartz watches are really growing on me - having a lot of automatics, they look after themselves and are great to just grab and go! atb snack.
I have both, including a Grand Seiko spring drive. All great watches but the quartz ones are remarkably accurate.
That T-shirt? Speedball 2? Brings back memories…”Ice Cream, Ice Cream.”
Hahahaha! Loved that game so much.
Yes!
@@JustOneMoreWatch 1990… wow I was 12
Dam, good pick up. I couldn't remember where I knew those faces. Loved that game.
Best shirt yet! Touchdown!
Thanks for your time 🕥, I am into automatic watches,gears😍, accidentally bought a Seiko kinetic, rotor spun when I shook it,was bummed gave it to my 😺 cat, now I love it,shake once a day,super accurate,set other watches by it
Regardless of how good a deal it is, you can’t escape the fact that the dial is an absolute mess. Not for me.
Doesn't look that messy to me.
I mean, that's just a wrong comparison, because every chronograph has a messy dial. That's why I would never consider to buy one.
@@damyr it has to display timing data, so that's a given
@@damyr
Not necessarily - Rolex, Tudor, Zenith all make good looking chronos that look tidy, symmetrical and balanced. On this, the way they’ve hacked into the 4 o’clock index to put in the date window just looks lazy and an afterthought.
Yea it's a shambles.
"Quartz has no soul" wrote the person on his computer instead of using a typewriter with paper and sending the message through carrier pigeon.
Edit: Carburettors vs Electronic Fuel Injection is the ultimate analog to Mechanical vs Quartz.
Yes that analogy is accurate.
I saw a hipster at a cafe the other day with a typewriter and a battery powerd record player on his table! I kid you not. ;-)
@@cosmicenforcer2534 There are quartz watches that would surprise you. Take a look at the Mondaine Stop2Go or the Bulova Moonwatch.
This Chronograph reminds me of the Tissot Seastar 1000 Chronograph I purchased a couple years ago. A great alternative to this divers Chronograph. It's Quartz and it's in my top 4 favorites in my collection (that includes both autos and quartz). Beautiful, functional, and has gained half a second between daylight savings time settings. And yes, I do actually snorkle with it. I can't wait to go diving with it!
I have an equal amount of quartz to analogue watches, my most recent purchase was a MWC ‘Dirty Dozen’ a 36mm homage with broad arrow
and running seconds - i’m in love! It’s a fantastic wee watch with 100m water resistance and great lume. Had to dye the skin coloured strap
with some brown wood stain, but besides that, it’s fantastic. Keep up the good work amigo.
More food for thought… 🤔 I’ve got some Promaster Eco-drives in the collection that have been my grab-and-go’s for years now, and compared to them I couldn’t agree more that the solar cells could have been better integrated on this Seiko. But still, at that price… Thank you for the review! ⭐️👊🏻
I think if someone has a super busy life then quartz or solar watches are a perfect choice. The dial is a bit busy. If there was some color gradient between the dial, bezel, or sub-dials, then maybe it wouldn't be obvious. Great video Jody! Thanks!
I enjoy vinyl and CDs as well as automatic and quartz watches! I like retro but embrace the modern also for practicality. Great review, keep up the good work!
Excellent video!! I LOVE QUARTZ WATCHES!! Started my watch adventure in '82 with my 7548 quartz. Still running perfectly today with 1 service and a handful of battery change. Thanks for this video man!! Love that solar chronograph 🔥💯
Huge fan of the sumo. I purchased the green 3rd gen. Ended up modding with ceramic bezel insert and Strapcode bracelets. I likely would have given a solid look if the solar sumo was out there without the chrono module.
Considering the efforts and expense watch makers, including the likes of Rolex, went through to develop quartz movements, it's obvious that at the time, they recognized it as the superior technology, which would logically be in highest demand.
Yet here we are today, with many still preferring a mechanical movement, and willing to pay a steep premium for it; even though we know mechanicals are less accurate, more fragile, and higher maintenance.
Go figure.
I though Seiko’s were banned on this channel now Jody?!?!?!;) it’s a cool watch!
Seiko watches costing more than $1000 *
Ahahah
@@scbr2458 If you payed more than a grand for this you're drunk!!
When it comes to Seiko, I only buy quartz. I have not had good experiences with 6r and other Seiko movements, but the quartz are great and more affordable.
I'm really liking the V157 movement in the Seiko Solars. No bouncing ticks and so far, on both I have, second hits every marker on the chapters.
I love my Citizen Nighthawk as a quick grab and go beater. My only issue with quartz is the price. Around 300-400 is where I draw the line. Beyond that, I would rather get an automatic.
Why? Automatic is not inherently more expensive. You can buy a crappy $30 automatic made in China, just like you can buy a crappy $30 quartz made in China. Or you can buy a beautifully finished, high quality quartz that will last a lifetime for thousands, just like you can buy a high end mechanical for thousands. One is not inherently more expensive or valuable than the other. What matters is the quality and finishing etc.
The price and complexity of mechanical scales up way faster than quartz, so I hear you. The exception I can think of is something like the G-Shock Frogman watches, which are around 500 or above but are basically the pinnacle of tool watches due to the features and durability.
@@manoflego123 you will not find a fake eco drive anywhere others than the easy spotavle ones on wish. Now for rolex.... i would take my blue angel as an end of the world watch versus any mechanical.
that voice over when talking about the dial on the mechanical was hilarious. you are a comedian at heart sir. I come for the watches but stay for the laughs
Thanks Jody for giving this wonderful watch some love, totally agree with you. These solar quartz imho have the best of both worlds in terms of accuracy and no frequent battery changes, plus tons of value bc they don't have the same prestige premium as similarly spec'd autos. I bought the blue dial version of this, SSC759J1, which is also sapphire crystal and ceramic bezel. My only complaint was the silicon strap (and am in that "Seiko needs to step up their straps and bracelets" camp), so I put mine on an orange rubber Strapcode to make it pop like crazy as a fun watch. The case shape is a little different than the auto Sumo, so also haven't been able to find a nice stainless bracelet except for straight end link. As for wrist size, I'm a 6.75 inches tops and this watch actually doesn't feel the least bit big. The lugs curve down so smoothly it's really not an issue at all. In fact, had I not looked up specs, I'd have guessed it was more like a 48-49 mm lug to lug, and didn't notice it feeling any bigger than my Turtle.
I always loved the SSC017 for very similar reasons. It was a smaller and more modestly priced version with the SKX sizing and handset, but it had the busy dial problem that most chronos fight with. Most of my watches are mechanical, but I have some quartz too.
I have a 70’s vintage Seiko Hybrid:Analog dial with a function screen on top…Chrono, Alarm, Day/Date, Digital Time Display. The screen is very weak but she still runs. And a Seiko tri-compax super chronograph from the mid 80’s. Runs like a dream and beyond belief accurate….37 years later. Quartz rocks !! Great review as always Jody. But man, that worthless 24 hour sub dial…..just as easy to put in a 12 hour totalizer. I’ve seen those for
Great looking watch, and Solar too! No battery/capacitor change needed for 10 years+ which you didn't mention. Definitely on my shopping list.
Great looking Seiko Sumo Chrono. I love the Sumo case and build quality. Such a great price too!
I've established "detente" re quartz recently, starting when I purchased an LL Bean quartz field watch with gift certificates (quartz is all they sell these days). I go over it because of the Tritium hands and markers. Then I won an eBay auction for a Gekota quartz watch by mistake (thought it was a mechanical watch). So now I'm over it. Still prefer mechanical, but quartz is okay too. Good vid. Keep at it!
Thanks, Jodie, for calling out mechanical snobs. Wish there were more high quality quartz watches with great design. Quartz is cheap and more accurate - why is that bad!?
Saw this for an amazing discount here in Dubai - saw your video to ensure it was a good watch to have. Thanks for the video and honest thoughts.
Quartz certainly has its advantages. Both of my work watches are solar and atomic g-shocks. Never any worries about winding or the time being off, nor worries about magnetization or other damage. I wear my square most ofbthe time, but the range man comes out once or twice a month.
Just bought one new, in blue, on a rubber strap for £260 so I’m pretty well chuffed. Thanks for helping me decide to go for it once found. 👍🏽👍🏽
Great video Jody! I always wished there were more quartz dive chronos out there, still on the lookout for a 40-42mm one to fit my tiny wrist. This one looks like a beast!
It is a WHOPPER!
I’m an Ani-Digi freak, so I’m rather bound to quartz movements. I do own one hand-wind watch, but I mostly just give it a wind every once in a while to watch the little springs and gears dance in perfect harmony. I think mechanical movements are mesmerizing to look at, but as far as actual timekeeping I’m sticking to my Quartz pieces.
More quartz vicar? Indeed sir. Just got a 38mm solar prospex on my wrist, love the grab and go aspect of it. Having a day/date is the easiest way to get ignored when I’m in a hurry 😂
This Sumo might be the way I lean also. Thanks for shining the light on this one Jody!
Most of my small collection of watches are autos but my two work watches are tool quartz pieces. They are both decent watches and add interest to the collection, one you can drive a tank over apparently and the other has tritium tubes 😃
I just purchased a 37mm Citizen Eco Drive field watch after only wearing autos for years. I don’t think I’d like a quartz that uses a battery, but solar is pretty awesome! I’m really liking the dimensions, weight, & ease of use of this watch.
Awesome deal Jody and great review...i already have the save the ocean and dark blue soloar chrono versions but I'll be looking for one of these as well!
A brilliant and well argued presentation on the great Mechanical vs Quartz debate, they both have their place. I love steam engines, classic cars and bikes etc, but I wouldn't want to have to rely on them everyday, we've moved on, but that doesn't mean we can't still own, use and enjoy them for what they are?
Can I recommend the the Seiko V175-OADO not a PROSPEX, Sumo or PADI version but still an ISO spec 200M Divers watch, I bought mine slightly used two years ago, for a good price, it's a brilliant watch, not too big for those of us with smaller wrists and is always ready to go and I love it to bits.
Nice review Jody. I have the blue model of this watch. I love it. It is always set and ready to go. At plus one second a week, it’s never more than a few seconds off when I pick it up. Yes, the date is the weakest part of the design. Maybe leaving the date ofd would have been the way to go on a tool diver. That said, most people will never dive with it, and a date is a very useful complication. Quartz doesn’t bother me at all, especially when it’s solar powered. They are reliable and seldom need any kind of attention. Of the six solar quartz watches I own, I have only had to service one of them, it needed a new capacitor. Now, I look forward to another decade of use with no servicing. I love being able to pick up a watch after not using it for several weeks and having it ready to wear, still accurate to a couple of seconds!
Solar quartz is a whole burger thing. No back to pop and no gaskets to grind. The window ledge by my desk always has one. And I have never had one stop functioning. And crazy accurate. And I love my perpetual calendars. And yes, some guys rock a big Sumo. Thanks.
Dump the 12/24 register, move the chrono minutes to the 3 o'clock, date moved to 6 o'clock.
Make it a bi-compax, lose the clutter and it'd be 10x better.
This!
I have a Seiko Mecaquartz chrono, the retro Recraft style, and think it's great. Because it has the tachymeter chapter ring and no rotating bezel I don't have to concern myself with misalignment issues, at least not in that regard. Wish it were possible to set the 24-hour subdial separately to have a second time zone but otherwise it's a reliable and accurate movement. Cheers mate!
I had one of these and loved it but the printing was off, didn't match the indices. Apart from that I love the mecaquartz movements, very accurate, set it and don't think about it untill it needs a battery change every 2-3 years.
That sounds very cool, I will have to look it up.
Why is it that you can buy quartz wall clocks with sweeping seconds hands on the cheap, but it's incredibly rare to find a quartz watch with this feature?? (Not counting chrono seconds hands)
This would make quartz watches a lot more attractive to me... I hate a ticking hand missing the markers.
i have been wondering the same thing.
My understanding is that sweeping seconds use more battery life. Wall clocks aren't a problem because they have easy to change large batteries
@@janiniinivirta2474 it’s down to power consumption
@@jerryglasses2229 I feel like we should have advanced far enough along with battery technology to overcome this by now.
And I don't mind changing the battery, what? Once a year? Every 6 months, even? If it means I don't have to look at a dodgy ticking hand.
@@gamesetmatt23 There's also the fact that a preference for sweeping seconds is far from universal. And there is utility to being able to.count out each distinct second as they happen. So it's not simply a technical/power consumption issue
9:45 Jody, the international rules of audio production require that when you go back in time you add echo AND a harp gliss. We’ll let it slide this time.
Jody, Hi, just got to say that in a recent video you made a throwaway comment about how you take more links from the front section to improve wearability which triggered my OCD but I tried it and it really makes a difference! Revisited all my collection and they are all much more comfortable on wrist when set up this way. Maybe do a piece on it if you haven’t already. Love the channel!
I enjoyed this installment very much. Your prior review on the Casio Duro was one of the compelling reasons I considered one and bought one for my use in the ocean for metal detecting. It made no sense to me to have something automatic, and that I would have to keep readjusting the time and date every time I took it out for use. In fact, I would venture to say, why would anyone use anything other than an inexpensive quartz diver for the actual ocean? Why risk an expensive auto that you're constantly fiddling with the crown to adjust the time and wearing down the seal the gasket provides? If I had Bill Gates kind of money I guess it wouldn't matter...but even he wears a Duro.
My two most loved watches I have had were a quartz Victorinox and a Citizen eco-drive. The Citizen was my engagement gift. I paid $3000 for a diamond ring for my wife and she bought me a $300 watch. Seems fair.
I don't get the knee-jerk over quartz either! I mostly have autos, but also a bunch of quartz and a couple of digi Casios. They're all great in my eyes.
I received the Auto for my 21st birthday. I'm 66 now. Still works a treat, with only one service (last year). No water ingress ever.
Jody I bought a old Prospex divers chrono this year, and I didn't think I would enjoy as much as I have. My first quartz in many years
Fabulous watch first time I've seen a quartz Sumo I love it👍 thanks Jody
Love the fact that its solar at least! That way the caseback does not need to be removed to change the battery and affect the water resistance!!
I bought a Seiko Solar Quartz SSC019P1. I liked the look, chronograph, pepsi bezel etc, so I didn't care that it was Quartz.
Aside from really liking the look if it, and the specs, I can use it to set the time on all my other Autos when they run out of juice, as it's fantastically accurate!
I do prefer the kind of tactile feel you get with automatic or mechanical watches. So I prefer them. But athletically wise, and functionality wise, if another Seiko Solar Quartz takes my fancy, I wouldn't gave any hesitation buying it.
I also really love my Casio World Time. No doubt quartz watches still certainly have a place.
I have the black limited edition version. I am now considering this one or the blue one. Great review.
Incredible watch for the price. The solar is awesome. Could have been better without the chronograph function. Great video. Cheers.
Great channel great presentations. 🙂 Just ordered an 807 Japan with that gorgeous green dial.
Cool....I have that too.
I love a good quartz, my Seiko darth tuna hasn't lost any time since I set it 3 weeks ago. super accurate and super tough, for a tool watch it just makes more sense.
Love the topic. Never gonna be a fan of quartz unless it's under 100 bucks. The love of mechanical inner workings is just part of the interest in this hobby for many of us. Still watched the video to keep an open mind.. Cheers!
I've just bought my first Seiko, this one but with the blue face and black silicone strap for £275 UK pounds that's equal to 480 Australian dollars, on sale at half price and yes, I'll be sourcing a stainless steel strap soon just to swap it out when I feel like it.
I enjoy mechanical watches but for a practical dive watch the fewer times the crown has to be unscrewed for adjustment or winding the better, so it would be very hard to argue against a solar powered quartz movement if this is to be a "tool watch".
In reality, if I just wanted to tell the time and date I'd look at my smart phone. A mechanical watch is more than just telling the time. I also like the idea of never wondering what day the battery will die. This is also why I like the idea of Eco-Drive watches.
I'm 62 and I have never owned a quartz watch. Timex in 1966 my first wind up to a Oris Aquis cal 400 I just aquired, I just love the mechanics of a mechanical movement watch.
I rem 3-4 yrs back I came across this series Pepsi color in a local mall, the shop has both guarantee and non-gurantee set. The latter costed only S$240 or A$240. I think Prospex logo was still not introduced for this model and was hardlex though.Those were the days, when SKX was on the rage, only 3-4yrs ago! Seiko what hv u done!
I have the first generation has SOLAR in stead of Prospex. I had have it for 4 years and I beat it hard. No one regret, great lume , but. Price today is out of hand.
I love the Prospex X
@@NathanChisholm041 my bad, edited to Prospex. I kept remembering professional specification when I m typing Prospex which is what it wants to mean, leading to typo. c",)
Just ordered the blue variant with 50% off. Looks to be the perfect daily driver for me! Cheers Jody!
Would love a quartz sumo just as much as an auto. However I strongly prefer the non-chrono dial. This is just too busy 😕
I love my quartz... most being equipped with the Seiko VK meca-quartz. Love the fact I can simply put it on and go.
It's a beauty! I own the Coral Blue Auto and I love that watch, it is the 6R15 variant however. I also own a Solar PADI edition diver and it's a fantastic watch as well. You made out very well at that price. I would have been all over it. Curious, have you heard about the Cartier SolarBeat Tank? The cells are accessed through the roman numerals on the dial! Brilliant! 😁
Hi Jodie I have a very modest collection but have some excellent quartz watches the Tissot Chrono XL and Bulova Curve and Bulova buzz aldrin Apollo 11 special edition these watches are super accurate. I cannot afford an automatic watch which gets anywhere near the accuracy of the quartz and the "set and forget" characteristics are super convenient. I think you should help and review more alternative power watches. Keep up the good work ...love the vids
I couldn't agree more! I just did a video on the quartz crisis & some of the quartz gatekeeping in watch fam. Fantastically done J! Loved this video... AS ALWAYS!
I love this watch. It should never need a battery and with an oil fill conversion, it will have more water resistance than any diver would ever need. I've already seen one UK price for £356 and that was just a quick look. I feel a project coming on.
If you think about what a watch is SUPPOSED to do, which is tell the time reliably and accurately with minimal fuss, it's hard to compete with solar quartz watches. I love the Citizen Skyhawk for that reason. Citizen Eco-drives in general are amazing, and the seconds hit the markers.
Who says that's what a watch is supposed to do, though?
I could just as easily say a watch is supposed to look good on your wrist, or make you feel something when you look at it. To be a masculine stand-in for jewellery.
They're not just about the time, are they.
Awesome review Jody, Love my seikos, but boy they really are cranking up the prices something crazy.
I thought you had given up on Seiko, mate 😊
Anyway, nice vid. I like autos and quartz and wear both. Cheers!
I am coming back around to quartz! I think that the reason a lot of people are opposed to quartz is because of the abundance of over-priced, under spec'ed quartz watches out there. I wish there were more manufacturers using slightly higher quality, jewelled quartz movements out there - for me the ability to have a durable quartz watch serviced would make it so much more attractive! :D
I'm definitely coming back to it as well mate.
Highly recommend looking at the Casio Oceanus line. Great value.
Chrono Sumo and Mecha Sumo both are fantastic. I love their design even though i never have them but i got them on my wishlist.
Design wise i prefer the chrono one. But the cons are :
1. They are solar powered so you must change the capacitor at a time.
2. A chrono with diver bezel i think it's just a waste.
The price and the design are very tempting to get my hand on chrono sumo 😁
You're so lucky to get it with that price. Congrats 😉👍
It's a bit of a feedback loop at times. People don't like quartz, so brands don't make the quartz models as attractive, people don't buy the quartz models, repeat. Honestly, if the brands just made the same watch, one auto and one quartz option, I would take the quartz as a serious consideration.
One watch that I really admire for actually trying to do what you're talking about it the Tissot PRX that recently came out. Both the quartz and Powermatic versions look amazing.
Ohhh that chopped 4 o’clock marker is hard to get past. I think it is a great value but that was a terrible decision on Seikos part.
It's pretty rough, eh Jeff?
For ten years I’ve worn a solar-powered radio-sync Citizen, H145 movement if you can call it a movement. No battery, almost always changes to and from DST even though I’m in a fringe reception area for WWVB (U. S. time signal station in Colorado). US$300 in 2012 though $400 list. Almost always within a second of official time. Sapphire crystal. Fairly easy to change to a different time zone. Syncs to German station when I’m in Europe.
It’s all about practicality. Recently I’ve started buying other watches for fun, but nothing I own is better. I got a Swiss watch with thermocompensated quartz PreciDrive innards, and so far it’s keeping within its rated ten seconds a year - but I still have to adjust date and time manually. I’m lazy! With an automatic I’d have more worries…
Hey! Loved the review! Could you please let me know where you bought the watches from in Australia?
Already being the owner of the SBDC033 Sumo/Blumo if I were to get a third generation Sumo it would probably be a chronograph quartz/solar . I’m not a fan of the third generation Sumo automatics . Thanks as always for a great video 👍🏻💯
Thank you for this thoughtful and thorough review.
Dial is a little busy but the price is right. Good size watch for me on my 8 1/4 inch wrist.
Agreed on that chopped off index. If they had moved the date to more like 4:30, they wouldn't have had to do that. But I'm guessing that's the way the movement lined up. If I was designing that watch, I would have put rectangular indices (bars) on it instead of circles, and it would have fit.
I wish Seiko would make a Kinetic mechaquartz chronograph. My main concern with quartz watches is having to open the back to replace the battery, potentially losing water resistance. Solar solves this problem, but I suspect solar-power doesn't have sufficient torque to drive a mechaquartz movement. I think a Kinetic will have sufficient torque, quartz accuracy, no need to change the battery. It is also relatively inexpensive and I love the mechanical feel of a Kinetic. Come on Seiko!
Great video Jody, thanks for the upload
I have the blue one.
Other than the marker at 4, I don't like the dial.
It's so different with what Seiko usually does. I guess the solar movement is the cause.
But, it ticks everything that I want, big brand, solar, complication.
When it comes in Seiko Sumo case at reasonable price, it is a BIG bonus.
Quartz every time, unless you wear a mechanical watch daily you have to manually date set and wind them. the last two mechanical watches I owned both suffered damaged gears due to manually winding which cost on average £200 to fix - both have now been sold. (Sellita SW200 movements need I say more). I now have an Oris with a Barrington watch winder to wind it gently and for my daily I have just bought a Tissot PRX quartz and I love it. For the money and for the running costs - Quartz all the way. Oh and my Eterna Kontiki bought in '91 has been faultless and worn daily at work since purchased need I say more.
Hi, Jody. I love your extreme close ups of dials and the time lapse. How do the running seconds hand and the minute counter line up with their corresponding markers? I had a cheaper Seiko mechaquartz with a useless minute totalizer because of alignment issues.
They are tiny you won't even be able to even see it! That's why ppl prefer small running seconds over a large ticking seconds hand. Anyway, dont worry about it!
Thanks for the tip but I hate busy watch faces. Getting the Sumo, that is the style I like. Great reviews.