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Big shout out to Matt (and everyone else who has loaned me a watch), I'm going to be struggling to post this one bck on Monday. I know it has some issues, and it isn't exactly cheap, but it looks amazing and it fits me like a glove, so that has to count for somethign, right? Let's see if my inherent tightness allows me to actually buy one! Cheers, Jody
At that price you could bring along the kitchen sink to test the water resistance if you feel the need!!!!
The pressure tester and 2 litres of water!
Really???
@@JustOneMoreWatch No, no - a reputable jeweler will give you water!
For that money I'd expect more than water, something with bubbles
Visible End-Link Rattle is the name of Jody's new prog rock band.
I'd buy their 4 hr long album
Tracks include; 'Seiko shuffle', 'moans and niggles' and the classic 'helloooooo and welcome'.
If you’re spending a good amount of money I don’t think it’s too cheeky to make sure you’re getting the most of what you’re paying for.
Completely agree
Love a stainless steel bezel ,Great looking but $1200 ?They take the p*ss.I'll wait for the San Martin version .Great video tho as ever.
Was thinking the same thing. Like Seiko, but I am very picky about the models I will lay down good money for over a nicely done homage (or 3 for the same $$)
San Martin is fine when you like sharp edges. This seiko is nicer than anything I have for the price and as nice as anything 3 times the price.
@@Kingofgoodtimes. I was joking about San Martin . I don't touch Ali express but really think Seiko are well over priced and under spec'd
One advantage of wearing the bracelet upside down is to control where the folded metal falls against the bottom of the wrist. Depending on the shape of your wrist, that placement of the fold can pressure a watch head more to one shoulder of the wrist or the other, helping to keep it centered. I've had to do so from time to time.
When you watch a lot of "Watch Channels" the reviewer might wax lyrical about the latest Seiko or Oris ...but you know their personal collections are Rolex, more Rolex, a Patek Philippe....etc.
With you, it's what you review. Thanks and keep it up.
So true
There's no airs and graces from Jody.
@@robertlindo8058 Unlike me.....
Actually, they're likely to have Grand Seiko.
Funny how our individual tastes run . I actually don't like stainless bezels but I really like that blue black .
Same here.
same!
4:42 ok... What does it say about seiko that you're relieved that everything lines up on one of their $1200 watches😑
They're still not getting my money. I'll stick with citizen
@@not-a-raccoon word
Yeah, at what point do people stop drinking the Seiko kool-aid. I just don't get it.
I sometimes wear bracelets back to front, sometimes you get better centering of the clasp if you do this, you try the bracelet the correct way round and if the clasp is off centre you reverse it to see if it sits any better. You would think if it's off one way reversing it would make it equally off the other way but that's not the case sometimes it will improve the way it fits your wrist.
Great trick! I just gave this a try and my wrist was happy 😊
Another solid video/review Jody keep up the great work!!! I just recently bought my first new Seiko (I have a large collection of watches but never bought a new Seiko) in an SRPF77 “Manta Ray” and I’m very happy with it so far. The only other Seiko I have is my late grandad’s 17 Jewel Seikomatic circa 1970 and that one amazingly still runs like a charm even after it’s been sitting idle for weeks to months at a time. Thanks again, Brian
After sending two 6R35s back for poor time keeping I would say yes, the experience prompted me to buy a Weishi 1000. You are an influencer in this field and as such we could all start going so armed and saying, 'well Jody takes his'
Can’t they be regulated to keep better time?
I've had mine for about two months-- you'll love it, too, I reckon! And by all means bring the grapher to the shop-- after all, keeping accurate time is rather the point of any watch!
Absolutely take the Weishi, I take mine when ever I go to StarBuy in Sydney, it's an almost must if you're considering buying a Seiko 😁👍🏼
I think Weishi needs to make a battery powered timegrapher we can take on every shopping spree. So the jewellers have one more reason to hate us.
HA! "Excuse me, do you have somewhere I can plug in my timegrapher?"
There are plenty of timegrapher apps which works with headphones microphone attached to the watch case directly. Of course that's not a real timegrapher but this might show you some obvious issues with movement anyway. I used one to adjust few seiko and orient calibres, and it worked like a charm I was able to set 0 +1 spd easily.
Honestly, I don’t buy the whole timegrapher craze. I understand why watch reviewers have them; but, as a watch freak, I don’t really care if the movements in my watches are faultless ... as long as they run accurately. Nobody is perfect 😀. I have OCD tendencies and a timegrapher would simply feed an unnecessary frenzy.
@@snowmean1 Which doesnt mean your watches behave like what the Weishi says.
@@edteach3r What puts me off is the price. 150 $ for a Weishi? 150 $ for something I consider a sideline accessory, yet which is as or more expensive than a few of the watches I have?? Yeah, no, that's a bit too steep for me.
I've gone to a brick and mortar store, set the Seiko to NIST time, wound it fully, and then come back around 24 hours later to see how much it's drifted. Not as precise as a timegrapher, but I've found that method to be a pretty good predictor of how the movement will drift over the next couple years. All my Seikos slow down over time, so I look for ones that run a bit fast when new.
I adore this watch and will leave mine as a keeper as I agree 100% re the Cinderella Fit. I have 6.5" wrist and this Seiko just drapes to perfection. Well willing to overlook any of the negatives as they are nicely outweighed by the positives and especially the 'Classic' colour combo...As Jody said..not many Seikos produced with factory stock Steel Bezels...😁👌👌
It's a looker. I went for the SS bezel when I bought my Helm Vanuatu and it made the world of difference. Still, for me there are many better options in that price range.
I've owned quite a few Seiko divers over my 20 years with the Seiko 600m Prospex being one I've owned twice and regret both times I sold it. Back when I bought my two they were around $3600. Anyways I've owned a variety of Seiko divers. This one here looks incredible. That stainless on stainless is FINE!!! I WANT ONE WOW I WANT ONE. BEAUTIFUL. WELL DONE AS ALWAYS
KASHTON
What a beauty! Love the half brushed/half polished hands and I love the brushed steel bezel insert too. Hopefully you can find a good one 🤞
Excellent review of a very good watch. I enjoy the detail. The quantitative and subjective parts of your reviews are the gold standard!
As with most Seiko designs, they’d be perfect if someone else was making them
This is really eloquent actually. I’ve struggled to find the vocabulary to describe my feelings and this sums it up beautifully. Thank you.
Going to take an awfully long time for them to break that unfortunately. In the meantime we can reap the rewards.
Islander Watches will scratch that itch.
Heimdallr and San Martin 😏
@@scowlistic And yet my islander wasn't aligned lol
Great looking watch, but I'd share your fears about bezel alignment. Definitely one I'd prefer to buy in person to be safe...but definitely one to buy!
Really love it, but not for that kind of money, it's too expensive, shame as think it's a belter. Regards keep up the great show.
As soon as insaw the blue one last year, i ordered it immediately. And that case, after few months, i still find myself admiring those angles and finishing. Killer watch imho
I have this baby, it’s fantastic. No typical QC issues on mine. I wear it on a sailcloth strap.
Looks stunning! I agree with the logo. The shiny applied logo on my black Alpinist is great.
I agree, it does look like a special Seiko. Probably the best looking Seiko I’ve seen, other than the more expensive spring drive models.
Absolutely take the timegrapher with you! Like you say, Seiko is regrettably a crapshoot. I didn't think I'd find another of their pieces compelling but I'd be pleased to add that one to my collection if...IF...it checks all the boxes.
As an aside, I had to make sure I heard you correctly and it seems I did. Having had multiple surgeries on my right knee I have almost no medial meniscus on that side. Cheers mate!
I bought this one a couple of months ago, it's a beautiful watch and I'm glad you reviewed it.
Jody, take the time grapher! You do you!
Decades ago, it was a Seiko for an inexpensive well made mechanical watch. When I was young. Now, it's Pagani or other Chinese brand, if you want a well made inexpensive mechanical watch. I'm wearing now now. RIP Seiko. It was nice knowing you. Perhaps Seiko should relocate to Switzerland. These days they'd fit right in.
They would have to step up their game considerably to fit in at this price point .
The price increase, and lack of applied logos and applied indices is so strange to me. It’s like we’re being held hostage, “if you want us on your wrist, YOU WILL PAY!”
I just don’t understand what justifies the price.
Like Daniel Wellington
@@MrMadvillan there’s capitalism, which is great, and there’s bad business practice, which isn’t. Giving people a good product or service at a good price is capitalism and good business, price gouging is not capitalism.
Absolutely take the timegrapher along with you! Having just run the gauntlet of buying a new Seiko online (it's ok apart from the bracelet) if I could have picked it up locally and thoroughly examined it first I absolutely would have done.
I appreciate that you mentioned the crown (not being signed). I have the SPB143 and am disappointed that Seiko doesn't bother to sign the crown. At over $1,000 it's the least they could do.
This is simply stunning.. I have tried it on (three times😀) and completely agree Jody, it is gorgeous.... possibly another classic in the making. Like all my other Seikos, it will age beautifully, I am sure. As a retired teacher, the price is just a bit too steep for me unfortunately.
I'm finished with studying soon. Wanted to buy a couple of watches with my money as an engineer. Now my girlfriend becomes my wife and wants to get pregnant soon. So not much money for watches... I feel for you man. It sucks to work hard, give your best at a job, and then you aren't able to go full berserk at buying Seiko-watches.
@@TheMonsterHunterTV Totally! Thanks for the commiserations. 😊
@@edteach3r Just out of curiousity. What are the best Seiko-Watches from your experience? I'm really into Seikos vintage-pieces. I own a vintage King Seiko (5626-7111. Maybe the best dresswatch ever made. The movement is just out of this world and even with it's 50 years of age it keeps time with just +1 second per day), a vintage flightmaster and a vintage Sports Chronograph (The one out of the James Bond Movie View to Kill with Roger Moore). I would love to hear your recommendations. Maybe you can give me a really useful one with your years of wearing-experience
Stunning yet understated in all the best ways. For a Seiko-phile like me, this is close to perfect! 😍 Can't wait to wear this one in and make it my own.
(I'll take a look at the bracelet when I get it back, I have a feeling I've probably just done a poor job of fitting the end-links when I swapped it around)
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P.S. I think I'll be keeping an eagle-eye on the tracking when you post it back! 😂
You're dumb to buy this
@@mdmohitulhaque8648 Hi, yes we can all be guilty of being 'dumb' at times when it comes to watches. Though, perhaps you could tell me why you think my decision to buy this watch was 'dumb', rather than just calling me names?
P.S. If lending this piece to Jody caused him to be so enamoured that he went out and bought one himself, then I think I'm comfortable that I'm not the only one who's 'dumb' when it comes to this beauty.
Great design, and if I had a time grapher, I would feel fine taking it along to check the watch. Great review as always Jody!!!
Beautiful piece. I just buy all my seikos from an AD so if you get a bad one you can exchange it for hopefully a good one. It's worked for me so far. Also absolutely time graph that thing. I would if I had one of those
I highly recommend using the Weishi before buying. I was looking at a beautiful used Rolex Sub (2002) and it was +23. I also looked at a brand new Tudor Pelagos that was +13. I ended up with two other watches (a 2020 Rolex 126610 and a Tudor BB58 Blue both from the AD) and they were both +0 on my Weishi. I look at accuracy as important. which is partly why half my collection is quartz and I use my Casio Solar Atomic watches to set my automatics. For a brand new luxury watch from the AD, I ask the inhouse watchmaker to put it on his timegrapher for me to observe.
“18 degrees, positively bitter” 😂
A hot Scottish summer day is a cold Sydney winter day.... 😂😇
We’re taps aff, he’s jeans on..
@@SkysaxonDragonslayer It's that temperature in Manchester today...hot !
That's bloody freezing here!
@@paulieconnell1 he’s a big Jessie these days
Beautiful! Before I discovered brands like Zelos through your channel I think I might have tried to nab one of these.
Oh dear god my this is too good... a few watches in my collection are feeling very nervous right now
I’d say take it along! Although as you know, new watches can take a few weeks to settle into their timing.
Timegraphing in the store: It’s not too cheeky at all. It’s a non-invasive procedure and as long as you don’t make a video of it, they should let you.
I agree because my trust with Seiko's QC was lost long ago. Concerning timing, on another subscription I frequent and respect, I stated a simple question. If a movement is capable of +/- x seconds a day, then why doesn't it perform that way out of the box? Many, myself included, were able to tweak the old well known 7s26 movement down to very good timing especially if you owned a timegrapher. Why is the customer having to unscrew the back and with steady hand make adjustments to get better or even decent accuracy? I realize we're dealing with mass produced lower end movements, but wouldn't be refreshing for that -20 to +30, whatever, to be tightened up quite a bit? I was told cost and the fact most people don't care. I haven't mentioned alignment issues and won't because this horse has been beat to death. I would buy only after eyes and hands on. I enjoy your content. Cheers everyone.
Beautiful, end links kill it for me Jody, I have pagani's with less rattle! Bring the washi when you go to get one and bring you camera too, can't wait to their face!
Wow!! Thats a gorgeous watch. I'm still wearing my Willard. Great review as always!!
This stainless bezel model has been calling to me since I first saw them . Great review
I looked at this watch on the Australian Seiko Boutique website and the watch in the photo has a misaligned bezel!
You just have to love that quality control!
This is such a handsome watch! Thank you for this video!
In 1968 I used to visit Bangkok 5 or 6 times a year and I would bring back to the USA, 5 or 10 $25 Seiko automatics, day date, for guys in my aviation unit. They were gold or almost gold, since they turned your wrist green after a few months. Fun. Times have changed. I ordered the 185. You can't take it with you when you go.
Take the timegrapher! I Live in Sydney and will be more than happy to lug a power source around for you!
If you consider that an SKX goes for 300 up to 350€ right now in Europe.. 1000€ (price after discount) seems like a reasonable price for this. Bracelet is comparable to strapcode in quality, the Zaratsu polishing is reeeally nice, movement is reliable and a bit better than the old mid-tier seikos like sarbs, and the most important thing is the look of the watch. I find it beautiful in its semplicity and industrial feel. I got it as a gift, I would recommend to buy it at 750€/800$. Excellent watch!
Beautiful case...love the look. I agree with you, if I buy another Seiko, I'll ask the AD to put it on a timegrapher...you're spending over $1k and should get what you're paying for...especially with the 6r35, just saying.
But that case, yum.
Cheers Mate
That's a really handsome watch. Normally can't stand date at 3, but this is excellent, best integrated date I've seen. 6rxx can be rubbish tho, had a Alpinist & 6r35 Sumo, both were inconsistent and far less accurate than my 4rxx Turtle.
Agree, I'd have one but yes I'd want to check it's accuracy too.
Cheers mate & thanks to the owner for lending it to you. 👍🏻👍🏻
A bit expensive for me, I'll get the Steeldive SD1968 instead
Stick with my Vostoks, Orients, Invictas, Vaer, & OneElevens. All together still cheaper price tag than seiko
Absolutely, I've a Heimdallr Sharkmaster 300 running a ST2130, sub $275...
Great review, is it just the lume pip alignment we should be looking for on quality control or are there other things we should be looking for?
I *love* that: absolutely beautiful, although do agree with you on most of your niggles. The one I don't agree on is the lack of an applied logo: I think it's better printed. I think if it were applied it would unbalance the dial and just be "too much". I think, on this occasion (and usually I'm a big fan of applied everything), they've made the perfect choice with the printed logo. Great review though!
This Matt DID get the SPB187. I think the blue and black pops. But, this black dial is great as well. I just have one, two, three, four too many black dialed watches already :D. You are right about the fit. I have a 6.75" wrist and this watch fits like a glove. The case finishing and the details on the dial are just about perfect.
Thanks for the video. Cheers!
Hey Mat, I have a 6.25in wrist, do u think this watch would be too big for me?
@@boigahboi7074 It will look a bit large. But if you wear it right to the wrist it won't look bad at all!
Haha, I went the other way... too many blue dials in mine! And it's a little special to have the SS bezel, so it's not just your typical black-dial/back-bezel. I wouldn't mind having both, though! 😂
@@gamesetmatt23 Same same. Can't go wrong with either. 👌🏻👍🏻
I get watches with similar specs for half the price. Seiko was nice value a few years ago, but that time has passed. If I want an overpriced watch, I'll buy Swiss.
Well that's a dumb take
Love how you posted this everywhere haha.
18 degrees?? That's shorts weather up north here! hahahaha
Thought of getting a Sumo for a while now but my wrist isn't big enough to pull off the Sumo.
THIS ist perfect. Perfect lug to lug and has a great look to it.
Great review! I love this watch and the 62maX SPB143.
No dude, you're spot on, that is a nice watch. I view a lot of your videos and, yea man, this piece sparkled my eyes. Thanks for sharing.
Great Review, Great Watch... But the news of the day is actually Red Bull aiming to make their own Engines! Crazy!
With a lot of Merc engineers too... let's goooooo
I personally like the blue/black color-way more. The dial, hands and case shape are great - the signature Seiko look IMHO.
Beautiful watch. I’m only recently interested in watch collecting and appreciate the horological education I’m getting from the likes of you and Teddy Baldassarre. Cheers!
I was gonna get SPB143 but I'm leaning toward this, simply because this is a better Marinemaster lite rather than the SPB143 not quite getting the 62MAS look.
5:21 - I don't know about Matt but I've had a few watches that regardless how many links I pull from either side I couldn't get it to set on my wrist the way I like it to. Solution? Flip the bracelet back-to-front. Have only had to do this on a couple but it worked like a charm.
Wow! Thanks Jody for the review! Awesome watch. A definite stunner
Hey Jody, if someone's entitled to walk into a Seiko boutique with a weishi it's certainly you...if they are OK with it is a completely different thing of course! 😂
Thank you for the video I have watched it about 10 times already as I fight the inevitable. I love the black blue model and once again your video was just the incentive I needed to "ask" my wife to gift it to me for my birthday. I just got it and haven't put it on my own weishi yet but it seems to be a gooder too.
Just picked one up for £705 from a jeweller in the UK (sat in front of it to make sure it lined up 😁). Fell for it as soon as I saw it. Took some time to find one in a shop
This is a great line from Seiko. On my bucket list.
The case is a 100% (slightly scaled down version) of my Sumo....I typed this before you mentioned it… I wear my sumo on a wonderful Angus Jubilee bracelet from strap code. $750 for the whole kit...I would love to have this one but not at this price. Thanks for the great review Jody!
Nice watch, I like most things about it. Seiko do not make great bracelets, but after market options are plentiful. Saying that my Grand Seiko SBGA231 Ti bracelet is fantastic. As for the timegrapher question, if you are going into a quality jewellers to look at a watch, they should have a timegrapher that they could put the watch on to demonstrate the quality/accuracy of the movement for you.
Very nice the case looks very similar to the SBDC051 /61 just not to sure of shape and hour and minute indices
Even after your Willard review I was still keen, but in the end got the SPB143J1 instead. Still have the Willard itch but really love what I bought.
that is rather nice looking. reminds me of a tudor BB configured that way.
Good looking watch! I love the case on this model!! But like you I'm a bit disappointed with the printed logo on the dial, unsigned crown, but my biggest niggle is the bezel insert..if you're going to do stainless steel then make it solid, part of the bezel, I get ceramic and colored inserts! But "come on man" !!
lovely watch and great review as always but only got a fleeting view of the back of it at 5:32
All said and done, it is a handsome watch!! Take the time grapher!!!!
Nice one. You were very lucky with accuracy of that 6R-35. Mine is literally all over the palace, from what I have read this is common to this movement. Apparently winding it up a minimum of 55 times helps accuracy BTW. I was winding 25-30 and not getting good accuracy. In fact my 4R-36's all run within COSC from the factory. 6R-35's claim to fame is the 70 hour power reserve, not it's accuracy. I prefer the Supermatic 80 over the 6R.
Thanks for the excellent review. My SBDC125 doesn't have any bracelet rattle and the chapter ring is fine, but Seiko's QC needs to improve; no one wants to breathe a sigh of relief after spending $,1200 on a watch.
Liked the beveled crystal which has reflection of minute markers same as Willard.
Seiko SNZ389 (aka the Seiko Seamaster) has stainless a steel bezel as well. I have one and I love it. It was my 1st automatic watch and I just realised I bought it almost 15 years ago. Holy s***t. I paid less than 100€ for it back in the day.
Great video. There's actually 3 new MM200 including the new green one!
NIce watch, but honestly, I like the blue-black much more. With the right blue, that combination can be stunning.
I'm left handed I have found that some watch bracelets / watches wear better with the clasp flipped around.. it is also slightly easier to operate as a lefty with it reversed (for me) I wear a watch on my right arm.. as I can't stand having a watch on my left getting in the way.. I bought about 2mos again the larger mm200 SPB105J1 Green dial 44mm, I love it very well made the bracelet is ~ok as you say on the older bigger one as well.. I got mine at a local AD and it lines up very well, the AD matched internet pricing anyways.
I’ve been watching videos on this for months. That gasp when you opened the box sold me. Finally got one. I have a breitling superocean and a Tudor bb58. Don’t waste your money. This thing is unreal for around a grand.
Even though it has the tiniest speck of dust under the crystal I am very happy with my Great Blue Hole/SPB083J1 which I guess is sort of a slightly earlier iteration of the baby Marine master.
I have one and absolutely love it! It’s a keeper. I disagree on the Willard. I bought the Blue “Limited Edition” and love it too, BUT ... I was disappointed with the boring oyster bracelet it came on. It’s too meh for a “Limited Edition”!! So I threw on a Strapcode Shark Mesh tapered bracelet. And will eventually get the announced Uncle Seiko Beads of Rice for the Willard that they are currently working on getting out
Jody, we already had a small conversation about the frustrating Willard. it's so funny to see that you're in love with the SPB185 because I'm also thrilled by it. But until now I resisted because of the QC issues and that damn 6R35. Thanks for this great review, Uwe
This looks similar to the Heimdallr SKX007 Marine Master. Although the Seiko has a shiny bezel.
Ahhhh spring in North America! 81 degrees Fahrenheit Tuesday, finally!
Makes me appreciate my CITIZEN Promaster even more. Love your videos, Jodi.
Keep up the great work mate!
I suggest you review an SPB14x or 15x diver. They've all got the half brushed half polished hands. Mine was also perfectly aligned for what it's worth. :) The bezel is cracking, the size an improvement, but the interruption of the minute track next to the date is an eyesore.
I just bought a SPD149, and the Steelmaster was the only contender. I am happy I went the way I did, but am sure that I would have been equally happy with the other choice also. I’d offer to lend it to you for review, but you just said you don’t care for the blue dial / black bezel color combo, so...
Yobokies makes the best stainless steel insert for the SKX, nice thin engraving and recessed lume pip, so those who want to recreate this with an SKX, check that insert out.
Love your content as always.
Not as thrilled with Seiko for value as I used to be (shocking).
Beautiful watch, but for the $$$, not a must-buy.