What's The Difference Between Kickboxing & Muay Thai?
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Muay Thai is more popular than ever thanks to the UFC, Glory, K-1, and other MMA and kickboxing federations. But some people don't really know the different between Muay Thai and Kickboxing. In fact, just the other day someone asked me what arts I studied, and when I mentioned Muay Thai they said, "That's like kicks 'n stuff, right?" Not really...
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Kickboxing: whack whack
Muay Thai: *CRACK CRACK*
Basically lool
Very good explanation. :)
Im dead
Mere Arihi Pipi-Takoko surprisingly accurate
@Espada kurosaki what about elbow to the head in MT
kickboxing is pure striking muay thai is a hybrid of striking and stand up grappling
Nop, youre talking about sanda
@@carlosandres1835 Exactly. Muay Thai has clinching, not grapplings. Sanda/Sanshou is more known for its grapplings!
He did say STAND UP grappling though, as in the clinch.
Blue Benomm no there is stand up clinching in muay Thai
Blue Benomm yes standup clinch is still a form of grappling
A more technical difference between Kickboxing and Muay Thai is the body movements and planes of motions. Muay Thai is very much about rotation around the transverse plane, when throwing low kicks, head kicks, elbows, kness, and mostly, the clinch. These techniques require knowledge and skill on learning how to rotate the body and use the kinetic energy to transfer to exploding power as your strike too
I suppose in comparison, Kickboxing is as technical, but in a different sense. I feel that Kickboxing has way too many organisations and different associations have different "rules" and it just feels unnatural to be held back by so many rules. Muay Thai is very brutal and natural and Kickboxing is more technical and "flashy"
I train both and enjoy both equally as well :)
In conclusion the Muay Thai is more complete...
+Hendra Subrata Basically. If you go in order of least complete to most complete forms of fighting it goes first regular Boxing, then Kickboxing, then Muay Thai, and then MMA. Each level adds another thing you can do, in boxing only punching is allowed, in kickboxing you can do everything you can do in boxing plus kicking, in muay thai you can do everything you can do in kickboxing plus, elbows, knees, and the clinch, and finally in MMA you can do everything you can do in muay thai plus fight on the ground (wrestling, ground and pound and submissions).
Jenkins1155 Great analysis 👍
yeah
yup
Jenkins1155 you do know MMA is a conbination of difrent styles not just one right
Kickboxing to me looks like watered down Muay Thai.Back in the 80s it was a blend of western boxing and tae kwondo kicks
That's what every muay thai fan boy says to disparage kickboxing. People don't get that kickboxing is beautiful. Tons of spinning moves, hip rotation and flying kicks.
King Cold not trying to dishonor kickboxing But with all honor , Muay thai is superior. Kickboxing is also good But too modern
@@thedieseldiet just as some misinformed Muaithai fans say Kyokushin is Muaithai in gi, Sanshou is Chinese Muaithai, Dutch kickboxing is Dutch Muaithai (maybe for fighhters like Remon Dekkers perhaps. Vos and Mejiro gym is Kyokushin based), Japanese kickboxing is an imitation of Muaithai (Japanese kickboxing is based on Karate!)
@@yongjiean9980 i might not know much but I know that buakaw (muay thai) destroyed everyone in k-1including champion kick boxers such as Masato and won the championship by utilizing clinch techniques among others
@@bakhytzhansaparbay8592 back in day Andy hug destroy muay thai fighters same lol
kyokushin karate is Japanese, knees and elbow strikes are also used alot in a fight (or while sparring) but i love both muai thai and kyokushin
Muay Thai fighters are far more deadlier than kickboxers streetwise and sportswise, before Muay Thai became a sport it was an ancient fighting style kickboxing is too modernized and too predictable for Muay Thai fighters
The deadlier and UnModernized version of Muay Thai you are talking about is called muay boran
mrotola28 I have to disagree to agree what makes the fighter strong it’s not the sport okay muay thai can be deadly but what makes the fighter deadly is. The amount he put into his training and improving in my opinion power speed reaction and coordination are important in martial arts u feel me?
I think lei Wei is scaryer
@@spaceyofficial.0127 yes, about training its right, but just like firearms different training has different purpose, an Olympic athlete has different training than a soldier
@mark daniels exactly
I hope K-1 gonna come back and allow elbow-strikes. Anyway, if elbows are that dangerous, why large Kickboxing organizations don't make fighters wear thick elbow pads? Amateurs in Muay-Thai use them. You actually can google it. They would make elbows less dangerous and clinch will have bigger role in Kickboxing than today. Thumbs up if you agree.
You can win a fight in muay thai without throwing a punch or kick. You still have knees, elbows and grappling. There are specialists in muay thai with nicknames like "The elbow hunter" "Sky piercing knee". Some specialize in clinches like Dieselnoi while someone like saenchai would be a traditional striker.
Thanks For this Channel Bro I learn so much each day. It’s really appreciated!!
I literally thought about this yesterday. Thank you for answering my question.
Muay Thai is a Martial Art, it's the school of Life and the "real" Kickboxing is just a sport. I tried both, but my heart beats for Muay Thai :D
+Etienne Muller muay thai is kickboxing
@@js-hk6xs no it's not muay thai is thai boxnig
@@Serventofallahswt99he is right Muay Box is actually a kickboxing but ancient style of kickboxing. And the concept of kickboxing actually came from Thailand.
Shane I would love to have trained with you when I started in 79 .... what a mess the martial arts world was ! When I was doing traditional style I was reading magazines with bill Wallace and Beni Uequidez and thinking what am I doing? I got to usa and did American karate which at least was a little bit more realistic and back in Europe I had done kyukoshinkai so at least I was better prepared for dealing with street aggression.. but compared to the technical level these days we were groping in the dark and jeet kune so was on a lot of people's minds because a change has to come .... a six month boxing student could take most black belts ...anyway keep up the good work I think your vibe and your channel are the best on TH-cam..and I like your husky !
I love your work Shane because it has helped me today, today I was jumped by some kids at school and they demanded I fight the strongest one in the group, I told them no so they got ahold of my neck in a choke hold so I did the blocking to prevent and get out of the choke hold it worked so the big guy got ahold of me and hit me so I said, ok I will fight him not because I want to but because self defense, so I got at him from long distances and destroyed him, he then began to cry with his blood dripping from his nose and the school students were watching from the Windows, (This is during lunch by the way) and I am now the talk of the school. After school I met up with the kid that tried to harm me, (he is a 11grader) and ask if we could stop this stuff between us not be friend if you want but just stop this he said ok so I'm waiting for Monday too see what's to come of us
u friends now?
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mui thai and bjj is all u need to be a street fighter
TheWildCardA Not really. You'd want a self defense art, too. Something that was more brutal on the ground than Jiu Jitsu.
What you need for a street fight is a system not a sport.
A BJJ fighter for example would be totally fucked if there are multiple attackers and a muay thai guy will most likely throw a (for the streat) wrong hook and break his hand without his gloves
TheWildCardA that's a great combo but I think you should throw some wrestling, judo and boxing to go that.
kommentieren52 they are systems... there's just competitions as sports for muay thai and bjj. also muay thai fighters wouldnt throw a wrong hook cuz they train to master how to use all 8 limbs and they train to use all 8 correctly plus they tend to use elbows, knees and kicks more than punches and I don't think anyone would try to do any bjj related stuff I there were multiple attackers. and some arts that are combat sports are derived from a brutal predecessor martial art that is for self defense or a clean up, sport variation of it. like how muay thai is the cleaned up sport version of the deadlier muay boran and how bjj is derived from judo and Japanese jujitsu which was used by samurai.
by "wrong" i mean their normal hook wich can easyly break their nuckels if they dont have gloves. And the point is if you do bjj releated stuff on the street against a single attacker you NEVER KNOW if another one will come from behind or smth
Muay Thai is beautiful striking using eight weapons, sweeps and clinch. Kickboxing uses limited strike methods. The former is far superior and technical. It is chess to kickboxing’s draughts.
Until you get sidekicked.
I like Muay Thai but I would like it even more if it's stance was like guys like in UFC or like karate
Well kickboxing does have 8 limbs except not legal in fight.
Is there any difference in the kicks used? I’ve just started Muay Thai and it seems to be predominantly low kicks, does kickboxing include more kicks from other martial arts like karate?
Can you make a video about Sanda/sanshou?
Hey Shane if I want to set up a friendly fight match with my friends what are some things to consider
Can you do a video about the difference between brazilian jiu-jitsu and traditional/japanese ju-jitsu/jiu-jitsu?
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1. imitate his hair
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5.Study Jeet Kune Do
6. and then try JKD
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download his fighting scene in his movies then slowmotion it
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Hey man, I enjoy your videos very much, great tips very helpful, but just out of curiosity, did...did you dye your hair a different color or is it the camera, i thought you were a redhead lol
Gave my thumb up for Shane AND the great Andy Hug!
I like this guy he just goes straight into the point
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Is Kickboxing a combination of karate kicks and western boxing?
cogen651 Also TKD kicks
cogen651 pretty much. Although some styles have a bit of muay thai (leg kicks, teep kick)
Shane knows his stuff... still learning over here!
Thanks shane, I train wushu-sanda and mma :)
I’m 17 and I already do ITF Taekwondo. I want to start BJJ and boxing, and either kickboxing or Muay Thai. Which one should I join?
Muay-Thai permits multiple knee strikes from the clinch, whereas K1 only permits "1" knee strike, and then break.
Kickboxing is confusing because some organisations label it as kickboxing yet it shares the shame belt system as karate as have weapon and form divisions in competitions which is obviously just forms that have been taken from karate so it’s hard to pin down what kick-boxing is since some clubs like my old club has a very strong connection to there origins , being that of karate , since kickboxing was originally invented by a fight promotion company and the kicks in it are largely based on karate .
Is there still full contact (no gloves or wraps) kick boxing to this day?
The difference
May Thai- a ancient traditional fight
Kickboxing- a martial arts sport
My kickboxing lesson starts in an hour its nice to get to know some more about it before going :p
Nice!
If you're good enough at what little or what (lot) you know, you can
defeat many disciplines, part of the equation is whether there are
rules involved. Remember Bruce Lee; ''10,000 reps on one move is better
than 1 rep on 10,000 moves'' to paraphrase..
To sum it up even more, its basically in the rules and prefered techniques. What I got out of cross training in different arts is Muay Thai is more power based with slow steps, power punches, hard kicks using the shin, and of course clinching elbows and knees. American style kickboxing was basically boxing with above the waist kicks with foot and no elbows or long clinches. U can see it in mma fighters stand up. If they use kickboxing they're probably fast with the hands, light on their feets, kick fast and almost never use elbows. Watch a GLORY match or an old World Combat league fight, then watch a match from Lion Fights or an old Lupanee match and you can tell its all in the rule set. In GLORY they make you fight under "kickboxing" rules
Hi shane i do kickboxing av been told to switch to muay thi because it is better what is your opinion which style is better for these 3 situations genral/street/ring
We should like to see you video yourself fighting in a tournament. You seem really experienced and good, let's not put it to waste.
But in KYOKUSHIN KARATE we also use knees and elbows just not to the face but we fan kick the face and we also grapple
I think wrestling and Muay Thai would be the most useful in street fighting like if someone runs up on you or naw ????
Especially if you're adept at both style and the guy who runs up has no gun
He’ll yeah My friend was gonna get into a fight and the other guy charged at him and he kicked him in the body and the other guy fell and the next day he had a bruise 😂 one kick and he won. This just goes to show you should learn Muay Thai in a street fight people don’t normally expect a kick to the calf, body or face 😂
or/and just workout and get big so people are scared to fight you
@@JESUSISKING77742 but what if there bigger
@@JESUSISKING77742 If you are avarege height(5"8') and jacked you won't be bigger than skinny guy who is 6"4'.
So it won't work on everyone
clear and concise. thank you very much
Beautiful explanation.
Interesting fact: Here in Japan they use Kickboxing and Muay Thai indifferently.
BassForever44 They are not practising Muay Thai then.
@@calam8286 Are you? Its not MT either, now, that MT practicioners do western boxing footworK, lol.
Nice tips. Nice moves!
Shane could you make a video on the differences (pros and cons) of wrestling in a cage compared to on a mat?
Depends on what type of kickboxing
In europe
Kickboxing
From the 1970s
on wards is still also
Taught and practiced
I enjoy doing Muay thai and kick boxing the clinch is not used in most kick boxing matches
Great job...every other vid has 8mins of total bulls..t...informative thanks 4 posting
I always thought kb evolved from Muay Thai. Interesting stuff about the Dutch vs Thai thing.
What is about the other forms of Kickboxing? Like Pointfighting, Lightcontact or Fullcontact rules???
I do mma but my favorite style of kick boxing is sanda cause it has cool and effective takedowns
I was at a kickboxing gym, and it recently closed down, and I don’t know any other kickboxing gyms nearby so ima do Muay Thai
hey shane i got the idea too take a couple smoke show fights like you did bro. me and my coach are going too train hard for a year after i heal from a broken hand
Great video !
SHANE! Great new idea! Do a fights like a grappler! Like Royce Gracie! Mabey that could bring in some new viewers.
Yo Shane i am training karate now for 3 years and i am 12 years old but Should i use karate in a street fight i have the yellow belt and i am training now for the orange belt
Shane do you do muscle ups?
kyokushin karate or american kickboxing uses free kicks and free punches you know when you kick and pull your kick back instantly.it is effective for speed but causes alot less damage in reality whereas in muay thai whole power comes from twerk they don't pull back their punches and kicks like karate fighter would do insted they go and smash the target completely.the difference between karate and other kick boxing and muay thai is like the difference in the punch of karate and punch of boxing
Shane, what's your opinion on karate?
You don´t talk about guard, its some necesary to mention cause, just on the stand, kickboxers adopt a very side position if u understand, and that makes more vulnerably to low kicks, for example, and kickboxers have a style less agressive, they dont really play that game of roundhouses and blocks, counters, front kicks for distance, nak muays arey simply more prepared to hit and receive, and a very strong hits!! its a definite style "lethality" without free styles on him, but of course many have combined well, and yes, if you get too much to they, elbows and knees will crash u
In kickboxing you are not allowed to hold your opponents leg so you can sweep kick only under his leg if he trys to block your kick if u know what i mean and there are a lot of more little diffrences
whats better for practical self defense in a real life situation?
I am not good in English but I have a question how to fight with man who knows taekwondo really well? Can you show that in next video?
What is the best Muay thai or Kickboxing?
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Savate is also in kickboxing and hopkido
You should do whats the difference between sanshou *sanda* and muay thai!!!!!!! That would be amazing!!!!!
Which is better kickboxing or thai boxing
Muay Thai is versatile and effective but bad footwork and too open to the midsection. I personally like a modified version of kickboxing with a tkd background to be unpredictable
Bad footwork? I guess you don't know shit about real muay thai. Just to point out a couple names: Saenchai, samart, somrak, the Eel etc.
Muay Thai stance or footwork for use Fist elbow knee kick front - kick combo
And i thought you'd say something about pointfighting and light contact etc.. Too
Shane what's your opinion about savate kickboxing?
Bruce Wayne Agree on rules and make sure you know what to do if someone got KO'd
***** Shane can you do a video about the redirected fighting art bokator from Cambodia. It's similar to muai thai but is really good in its own way
OK so what's a better choice?
I think it just depends on what ruleset you want to fight under. Kickboxers nowadays train in multiple disciplines. Muay thai is probably one of the more popular ones.
Edit: Also, different promotions might have slightly different rules.
Muay Thai if it's the traditional art of Muay Thai and not the pussified American Kickboxing Association bullshit that's weakened it .
@Porras 36 No? Because it does depend and goes more to preference and the rules to the fight. Some people don't really like clinching that often, so the go more in the kickboxing rout. And some other people also find more use coming from boxing, because they are better with their hands and just have more fun with it. Any of them will work for self defense, so don't bring that up to me. The only practiced and practical martial art that is questionable outside of a ring is jui jitsu and wrestling, since all it takes is the guy your beating up to have a friend or two of his to kick you in the back or something while on the ground.
@@spenserfarthing3898 Ignore the dude, he clearly is just a Muay Thai fanboy who just want to make it look like Muay Thai is the "superior fighting style who can even defeat a double-barrel shotgun even if the dude with the shotgun is at 10 meters away from you"
You surely must have heard of the French boxing Savate. Your comments would be interesting, thanks in advance.
Can you make a video on some fighting drills
Watching the older vids. You look so different
Taekwondo + boxing + Muay Thai is the best! For me
Youre forgetting about judo or jiu jitsu
What to do if someone is choking you while dining into your neck with their nails
The spiritual Muay Thai is Muay boran isn't it?
Muay boran is the original art you had ur hands wraped with ropes and you could headbutt, use submissions and all that and later became seperated to muay thai and krabi krabong wich is fighting with bamboo swords and muay thai became all stand up striking to become a sport while boran is the original created to deal with the pirates back in the old days i learn both in master sken academy
Can you do a boxing video please ?
Sure, on what topic?
***** boxer vs muay thai fighter
(guess who'll win xD )
On Boxing Defense please
An Nguyen that's bullshit political correctness, if you really think about it street fighting is a martial art but they never beat boxers for example
An Nguyen Aren't you supposed to fight dirty in a street fight?
Since it's most likely until the other person get's knocked out or killed.
I haven't really been in one but, since there is no referee, I would do everything I can to get out a live I think.
But I would most likely get killed because I don't know how to fight :p
And I am only like 17 years old and 170 cm with ca 60kg's weight.
Awwwww it's a little baby Shane!
Thank u kako
I would like to have my answers questioned. (Lol)😊
i am starting Muay thai from ground zero. when will i get into ring..? any suggestion.
U can get in first day as in to learn not compete for sure just take it easy and dont fuck ur shit up man goodluck
I'm by no means an expert but I find it interesting and often disappointing how many westerners (or people not from the country and culture of a martial art) tend to bypass the historical, cultural and spiritual elements and just go for the fighting/ physical stuff - that seems to be the case often here anyway (I'm in New Zealand). I've only recently started learning Muay Thai after boxing for a couple of years - I'm spending a month in Thailand in July (out in a rural village in Issan mainly) so I'm not just learning skills and techniques for the physical side but also as a gateway to learning something of their culture - I wonder how many westerner Muay Thai people can string together a sentence in Thai? Obviousoly its not necessary but yeah I'm just curious!
Thats so awesome!
Btw. I have been thinking about joing a muay thai club for some time now. Do you think I should start working out a lot for a period of time, then find a club?
I'm just scared I will be too weak. I think it's connected with the fact I never really fought in my life, so my body blocks me from this. Any tips guys? Thanks in advance
+pulp1405 It's always good to be in the best physical condition you can achieve - in any sport - but definitely in combat sports. there's fit, there's very fit and then there's 'fighting fit' which is on a whole new level. Don't worry about the fact that you've never really fought, many people enter into martial arts from the same place (including me). although it is a fighting sport you can always place the emphasis on the 'sport'...
Its true, in the West people have a negative reaction to the cultural & spiritual aspects of Martial Arts. Maybe religion has a role to play, maybe its just a socio-cultural disconnect. I suppose the bright side is that over a long enough span of time, the physical training will manifest the other aspects if conditions allow for it. My advice to people is to train the old fashioned way when you can. Train in isolation from friends & family; no tech, no media. Your only partners are your breath and your heartbeat. Then, it can become something else.
I don't know that the reaction is negative, more that most just simply ignore it or bypass it - they probably just see it as an unnecessary auxiliary element that simply isn't important. Imo, it's worth looking at how the people of the country/culture that the martial art comes from see it and learn from that. In Thailand there are many traditions that go with Muay Thai like the wai-kru dance etc. When I did a few classes with an older Thai instructor he told me its important to speak Thai while learning and in his opinion that was the 'right' way to learn
Brent Strathdee-Pehi Personally, I have a lot of experience with the spiritual world, and I know a lot that most people have no idea of.
Eastern martial arts (the traditional styles) were integrating a lot of spiritual exercises that ultimately do a lot of harm spiritually and even physically.
Be blessed
Which is more lethal?
Yo ***** shane! Can you put up some of your boxing and muay thai amateur fights and sparring and also id like to know if you're gonna go pro one day : !
What's the difference between Muay Thai and Thai boxing???
It is the same
I see it as Muy Thai is more like street fighting in a ring and Kickboxing is more like contact sport (hence more rules and limits).
So karate is a type of kickboxing?
Im 15 and have been trying to find a fightstyle that is all round and could possibly compete with other martial arts. Now I am not 100% but I heard Krav Maga is if you are fighting multiple people with no rules and dealing with weapons. I am trying to get one since I am in High School. Im probably never gonna get into a fight but I wanna be sure I atleast can fight. But I have problems choosing which one that can compete with most Martial Arts since I have only been in one and It was horrible. If someone knows the difference or has been in one of these let me know. Krav Maga or Muay Thai.
Kickboxing. Saying that Muay thai is just kickboxing with punches and kicks is wrong. Muay thai stance is more narrow, square and flat-footed, limiting a lot of mobility to sacrifice the effectiveness of blocking kicks(which is why they stand in front of each other and raise their legs a lot) and honestly, this type of stance and kicking defense is very flawed. Mobility is important for MMA, very. You got smaller gloves so movement is more important and takedowns. Some could easily do a leg kick and immediately shoot right in for a takedown, succeeding due to the narrow thai stance. Another thing is boxing. Boxing is a big part of MMA. In Muay thai, boxing don't socre unless they appeared to stun your opponent or cause a knock down. For this reason, a lot of thai fighters will use only like 20% of their hands in sparring and will not even bother to defend the punches or simply cover up with long guard, standing in place. Headmovement is another thing. Headmovement is important to. And finally, tactics. Kickboxers are more technical. They use more feints and head movement. i see a lot of thai fighters feint by lifting their leg up! which is a no no
In summary if you didn't want to read all that. Muay thai has more weapons but lacks the fundementals.
Shane ive been wondering this for along time. Is muay thai fancy or not? Plz answer this question im a big fan of your channel
not at all
it can be
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How do you thickabout Myanmar Lethwei??
It's father of Muay Thai.
u can use knees in kickboxing too
Most places have banned it
I love K-1 / GLORY and I also like Western above-waist kickboxing but NOT pointfighting or Lau Gar. Your hopping side kick or backfist-reverse punch won't cut in in a real fight.
Shane i have just started boxing. When I throw a hook I get a painful shock through my wrist, what can I do ti prevent this? Love the videos have helped me out a lot thanks
bro same problem here especially when i hit a heavy bag with my bare hands
You are likely throwing the hook wrong. When throwing a hook, the fist, wrist and forearm should all be perfectly straight so there isn't stress on the wrist. If you throw a hook without the three being perfectly straight then there will be a lot of stress on the wrist tendons and ligaments which will cause pain and damage.
Same happened with me when I started on the punching bag my wrists were dead the next but you'll get use to it but don't do it too much or you'll pop your cartilage out if you still have the problem use handwraps
You guys shouldn't be punching a heavy bag with your bare fists in you're beginners.
Sangerino
I can only agree with you.
Generally you can say that you should never hit anything without wraps, because your wrist is rather fragile.
Pay attention to the wrapping, technique is key. Focus on stabilising your wrist, so you don't get hurt
Why do some muaythai fighters have like 200 wins and only 40 knockouts
I have black belts in palates, yoga and barre. My record in competition is currently 0-16 am thinking of learning a style that I heard was very successful in the early 90's, Jazzercise. I think with the new training I may finally win one! In the streets I'm undefeated! I carry weapons. Mace and a whistle,I'm 0-0. No losses...
How does one get a black belt in "yoga", dafaq