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  • @bingsoo9559
    @bingsoo9559 2 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    I can’t believe Joe only has 65k-ish subs, Your so good at what you do man! We need to leg kick the TH-cam algorithm to give your content the love it deserves

    • @nicksalvatore5717
      @nicksalvatore5717 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @The Tide Rises his thumbnail for this video is pretty good

    • @amartya9034
      @amartya9034 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would punch it cross and hook but. I feel knowledge this good must be earned by seeking it, not being consumed as recommended

  • @milamotik3236
    @milamotik3236 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Great explanation thank you. Video idea: How does a fighter determine their fight class? (weight)

    • @redrizzla1989
      @redrizzla1989 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Stand on a set of scales.

  • @TheButcherMuayThai
    @TheButcherMuayThai 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    i really learned a lot. great video

  • @Lionheart_Kickboxing
    @Lionheart_Kickboxing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I appreciate your channel a lot Joe thanks

  • @arnabganguly4962
    @arnabganguly4962 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Beautiful explaination. Thanks for all inputs.

  • @astonchui808
    @astonchui808 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for knowledgeable insights! This is an amazing channel!

  • @athlonrub356
    @athlonrub356 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Joe, great perceptive on differences between KB and MT.

  • @TheChillGuy000
    @TheChillGuy000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Fun fact: Muaythai was invented around the mid of 16th century in Ayutthaya period of Siam. (some says it can be traced back to 13th century). It developed from the battlefield tactics to make the soldiers as effective and deadly as possible, even without weapons. Muaythai is known as the “art of eight limbs” for the eight parts of the body that are used for striking and knock out the opponent: (for example fists, elbows, knees, and feet. etc.) This is the reason why Muaythai is so deadly powerful and brutal! (Recommend to watch Ong-Bak: Muay Thai Warrior starring by Tony Jaa)

    • @sportmuaythaiv1045
      @sportmuaythaiv1045 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Regrettably, this is just a hype propaganda for ancient muaythai. A student of ancient muaythai cannot fight a modern sport muaythai. Just as Jack Dempsy would be minced by Evander Holyfield. Martial arts have progressed much.

    • @amartya9034
      @amartya9034 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@sportmuaythaiv1045 Dempsey travelled the lands learning from the best fighters he is more than capable of holding his own againts Holyfield

    • @amartya9034
      @amartya9034 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      How much was punching used in ancient Muay Thai before western boxing influenced it?

    • @sportmuaythaiv1045
      @sportmuaythaiv1045 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@amartya9034 Dempsey was very good , for his period. But boxing evolved and progressed since then. Sonny Liston was far better than Dempsey. Yet Cassius Clay defeated Sonny Liston very convincingly.

    • @sportmuaythaiv1045
      @sportmuaythaiv1045 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@amartya9034 I can't say, but guess that muaythai fighters of yore punched just as much as today muaythai fighters, except that modern sport muaythai fighters punch much more efficiently now. Sport muaythai literally adopted boxing punching and training method.

  • @9DIME
    @9DIME ปีที่แล้ว +9

    “You have to get better at traditional Boxing to have a better well rounded Defensive Skillset”
    I knew I liked this mans page for a reason, he knows what he’s talking about “you need to improve your hands in Muay Thai against someone with heavy hands” so many mma & kick boxing coaches Completely Neglect pugilism, Boxing 101, it’s boring, it hurts, it burns, but it works & it helps in the long run, plenty of examples of Older fighters using tighter angles & better boxing to beat younger more conditioned opponents (prime Ex. Ali vs Foreman, & Ali was NEVER the best technical fighter, & was well past his best in that fight, but he was still able to execute

    • @noteven6562
      @noteven6562 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I started out boxing and it was easier to pickup than muay thai. Muay thai is slow af in terms of learning curve. Arguably the harder art.

  • @tclyue
    @tclyue 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks for sharing Bazooka :)

  • @noureddinefakkar9956
    @noureddinefakkar9956 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good explanation 👏

  • @joxxxyalpharius2008
    @joxxxyalpharius2008 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you sir !

  • @igorjesus2121
    @igorjesus2121 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Perfect video

  • @Hand2HandCombat
    @Hand2HandCombat ปีที่แล้ว +1

    GREAT VIDS joe - can you do a video on fighting at range with a long guard and philly shell and elbows and low leg inner kicks like rico and the side teep - Be a great video on how to take the best moves from striking but like mayweather not taking damage but giving it

  • @TKDslinger
    @TKDslinger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Hi Joe, maybe you can make a video of differences between traditional kickboxing (full contact) and K-1 rules. Would be great!

  • @asiatraveler422
    @asiatraveler422 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great explanation Joe! Thank you. What do you think to combine both… ?? What is your opinion on that? Is it good to have a mix of them?

  • @jordanmaclean6410
    @jordanmaclean6410 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This blokes awesome, I love it.
    Never does he bag out Muaythai only points out the differences if a Thai fighter wants to fight kickboxing.

  • @ninjasolarteam
    @ninjasolarteam 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I train muay thai. I do have a mix background(taekwondo, arnis and boxing). I train the Technical and the clinch fight

  • @RebellionMuayThai
    @RebellionMuayThai 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    🔥🔥🔥

  • @brekdakbanchamek6454
    @brekdakbanchamek6454 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Kickboxing is Pretty much Punches Above the Waist only, Knee Strikes above The Waist, Kicks To the Legs up to the Head, And Where Clinches are immediately reset after a single clean knee strike.
    Muay thai Punches above the waist, Elbows above the waist, Knee Strikes to the Legs (quadracep) up to the head, The Clinches Are Extremely allowed to the Point that Knee strikes inside the Clinch of Muay Thai Bouts are Freaking Brutal, Abd Also Elbows while in the Clinch and Foot Sweeps are Allowed!!!
    Thank You Joseph "The Bazooka" Valtellini!!!
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  • @williamqpnguyen4110
    @williamqpnguyen4110 ปีที่แล้ว

    there is a huge variety of boxing styles (mexican, peek-a-boo, american, british, cuban, soviet etc.) and kickboxing styles (japanese, dutch, american, chinese, thai etc.). in the end whatever works for you the best.

  • @youngjhey
    @youngjhey ปีที่แล้ว

    I need drop byyour gym in Scarborough

  • @knightofjustice5475
    @knightofjustice5475 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I always thought of it like this: Kickboxing is a sport, and Muay Thai is a martial arts style.
    In kickboxing, karate, kung fu, and yes Muay Thai guys can fight in whatever the ruleset for that organization is.

  • @myquestionaskingaccount3252
    @myquestionaskingaccount3252 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Howcome you always wear shoes when training kickboxing in your videos? Just curious

    • @lennardusyoutube8505
      @lennardusyoutube8505 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's mostly for stability i also like to wear my wrestling shoes for MMA classes as it makes it a bit easier to get the takedown and to not roll my ankle

  • @BLACKXDRAGON-nv2ic
    @BLACKXDRAGON-nv2ic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Given to me Muay Thai is the comprehensive version of kickboxing

  • @newlife2281
    @newlife2281 ปีที่แล้ว

    Muay thai kicks could very well stop any boxer attack, specially low kicks and high kicks.

  • @Diablo-3323
    @Diablo-3323 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There's a type of Muay Thai which is almost identical to Dutch Kickboxing called Muay Mat, it accommodates Thai fighters that love to punch.

  • @BoyBlaze2002
    @BoyBlaze2002 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I have a question, first off I love both Muay Thai and Kickboxing there’s a lot to gain from both, and you really can’t go wrong with either. Now that I got that out the way, Joe mentioned that KB focuses more on head movement as opposed to Muay Thai, which is definitely a boxing component. My question is what about foot work?? KB focuses more on footwork and head movement as opposed to MT right??

    • @theresponsiblyviolentcitizen
      @theresponsiblyviolentcitizen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Youll see a lot more simple and relaxed shuffle steps in MT. In thai rules, when they ger in close range theyll duck their feet to avoid sweeps and knees when they clinch. Like joe said its just a bit slower which means they wont be doing a lot of more technical stuff.

    • @flyingknee23
      @flyingknee23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Do MT

    • @BoyBlaze2002
      @BoyBlaze2002 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@theresponsiblyviolentcitizen I don’t know why I’m just now seeing this, thank you brother.

    • @BoyBlaze2002
      @BoyBlaze2002 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@flyingknee23 I’m definitely gonna do MT, I already have boxing and marine corps martial arts under my belt, now I wanna try some MT.

    • @theresponsiblyviolentcitizen
      @theresponsiblyviolentcitizen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BoyBlaze2002 all the best on your journey, and thabk you for serving the greatest country the world has ever seen. Dont forget, mcmap is derived from ww2 catch wrestling to combat the communist judo fighters of their time. Try that out as well

  • @kickinwinghotboi883
    @kickinwinghotboi883 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "I want you to go home"
    But.... But I am home?

  • @melvinalucas5103
    @melvinalucas5103 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hummmmm

  • @96mrtimi
    @96mrtimi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Last

  • @gianpava
    @gianpava 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    now differences between sanda and kickboxing, muay thai

    • @ball254014
      @ball254014 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      not much different Just don't use elbow knee , just Muay Thai mixed karate By Osamu Noguchi
      Muay thai(grandma) +++++
      kickboxing(mother)+++
      sd(baby)++++

  • @King_Achilles
    @King_Achilles ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Kickboxing is more fast paced equivalent to wrestling.
    Muay Thai slow pace equivalent to jiujitsu. 👌💪

  • @zickzack987
    @zickzack987 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Easy answer for the Muay Thai guy: If you want to do Kickboxing you have to become a Kickboxer.

  • @redrizzla1989
    @redrizzla1989 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bit confused, surely the kickboxer would rather be at long range with the Thai boxer....
    Thai boxing is closer range than western kickboxing right? Especially with the clinch in muay thai

    • @IndoManiac90
      @IndoManiac90 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      he is talking specifically if a muay thai fighter wants to try to fight within kickboxing rules where he cant use the clinch. In a real fight yeah the kickboxer gets decimated in close range by the clinch from the muay thai guy

    • @Diamekod
      @Diamekod ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, that's not true. Thai boxing scores kicks first, that means you usually want to stay away if you can. Also, it's hard to get through those kicks and teeps. But the stance doesn't allow for such sophisticated footwork and also it's more of a tactical game, where you dominate the space. Kickboxing doesn't allow many techniques and also the kicks aren't that utilized because of that. Dutch style kickboxing for example focuses on big bombs and hard low kicks with little stuff besides that. If you're a kickboxer you want to go in ,use your speed, especially for the body shots and avoid the clinching. It's pretty hard to catch a fast kickboxer. It's also hard to hit a knee or elbow if he knows what he's doing. Eventually you'll hit him and catch him ,and then you can deliver the pain, but the kicking technique is much better in muay thai, also the stance suits it way better.

  • @itsmehahaha8295
    @itsmehahaha8295 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    In a nutshell kickboxing can kill and muay thai can massacre

  • @joeleto882
    @joeleto882 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Y los subtítulos en español ?

  • @sshy153
    @sshy153 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Buakaw is the epitome of muai-thai.

    • @MikeDrew312
      @MikeDrew312 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There is no epitome of Muay Thai … so many styles

  • @Danie678
    @Danie678 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Between muay thai and kickboxing which one is better for MMA??

  • @melvinalucas5103
    @melvinalucas5103 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Better question where did Kickboxing come from ????

    • @syed4595
      @syed4595 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Kickboxing was originally a combination of karate and boxing in Japan

    • @emmy4537
      @emmy4537 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ur mum

  • @mafnorth8708
    @mafnorth8708 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why does mua Thai guys think kickboxing is soft???

  • @anjartcrow6168
    @anjartcrow6168 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hahahahahahaha he said kickboxing

  • @madmaster3d
    @madmaster3d ปีที่แล้ว +2

    muay thai is best
    dont waste ur time with other sports

    • @kesenaememere8520
      @kesenaememere8520 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Don't be ignorant, Muay Thai has weak boxing, and pacing.

    • @madmaster3d
      @madmaster3d ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kesenaememere8520 weak :O? im done

    • @pichupuche2474
      @pichupuche2474 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kesenaememere8520 Muay Thai has weak boxing? LMAO?? Muay Thai fighter can dominate kickboxing in Kickboxing rules while Kickboxing can't with Muay Thai rules. This proves so many time as in K1, Glory, Rise etc.

    • @kesenaememere8520
      @kesenaememere8520 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pichupuche2474In Rise Kickboxers/Karate guys dominate. Kickboxing dominates K1 now, and Glory from light heavyweight to heavyweight dominate and only the featherweight division is dominated by Petch, and he had to improve his boxing to do that lol. He even says himself he's more of a Kickboxer than a traditional Muay Thai fighter.

    • @pichupuche2474
      @pichupuche2474 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kesenaememere8520 Are you dumb? Dominates doesn't mean the number of their kickboxers in those rings. Of course these rings have more Kickboxers than Muay Thai. K1, Rise based on Japanese kickboxers. Glory US kickboxer. But when Muay Thai fought with these kickboxers they were dominated with long run streak. One = Rodtang, Superbon, Sittichai Petchtanong. Glory = Petchpanomrung, Sittichai. K1 = Buakaw, Kaew fairtex, Kongnappa, Kaoklai Rise = Petchpanomrung. These Muay Thais dominated Kickboxing. They have excellent pace and boxing skill than any kickboxing in those country and they are not slow at all.

  • @melvinalucas5103
    @melvinalucas5103 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Mauy Thai is Kickboxing

    • @mr.j6244
      @mr.j6244 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Muay thai is muay thai

    • @wire3989
      @wire3989 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      hell nah KB is style evolve from rule, MT is style try to fit the rule.

    • @ball254014
      @ball254014 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Kickboxing is the cute baby of Muay Thai

    • @AyeItsProphet
      @AyeItsProphet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ball254014 not at all. There both different. Get your facts right

  • @sportmuaythaiv1045
    @sportmuaythaiv1045 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The title should read " The Important Differences Between 'Competing" Muay Thai vs Kickboxing, under kick boxing rules. In a 'fight', the kick boxer will get butchered by a muaythai fighter with simlar period of training.

    • @kesenaememere8520
      @kesenaememere8520 ปีที่แล้ว

      False

    • @sportmuaythaiv1045
      @sportmuaythaiv1045 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kesenaememere8520 LOl

    • @sportmuaythaiv1045
      @sportmuaythaiv1045 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kesenaememere8520 Legendary kick boxer had his career destroyed by Muay thai fighter Giorgio Petrosyan vs. Superbon th-cam.com/video/J2T4wVwrFhI/w-d-xo.html

    • @sportmuaythaiv1045
      @sportmuaythaiv1045 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kesenaememere8520 Now let's see clip of your kick boxing. Here is yours truly at 76++, and I am not athletically gifted, just a regular desk jockey. This is why muaythai boxing is superior to kick boxing. th-cam.com/video/Dv-vbV25SCQ/w-d-xo.html

    • @yangmf49
      @yangmf49 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s not how martial arts work lmao

  • @stripclubrick6848
    @stripclubrick6848 ปีที่แล้ว

    Artur Kyshenko Vs Yodsanklai Fairtex ….all the differences you need to see in one fight. Dutch Kickboxing is King