Tony's films are shot so well, they really demonstrate his ability. Long shots that really sell the action, rather than quick cuts to make someone 'look good'. Good stuff! :)
Tony Jaa's Muay Thai skills are not only showcased excellently in movies, but he is also a well-trained martial artist with a strong foundation in Muay Thai. Apart from his performances on screen, he has participated in various martial arts competitions and demonstrations, demonstrating his genuine expertise in the field of Muay Thai
Tony Jaa is an amazing fighter. My Dad raised me on his movies and every time I think of a great Muay Thai fighter that is around today, it's him. And it's like she said, a lot of it was Hollywood-ized for dramatic effect but he knows what he's doing.
Seriously, that dude could do some brutal looking battles. In a more just world he would have his own super popular niche like, jackie chan and his crazy stunts and desperate scramble, where nobody does it like them and they have a huge following.
@@chrishubbard64 he does have a super popular niche, what bubble are you stuck in? And how is jackie chan a super popular niche? He is an international super star. Wait a minute? What is a super popular niche that's an oxymoronic statement.
@@chrishubbard64 Jackie Chan was one of the most popular actors in the 90s and early 2000s because of his stunts and fight scenes that "he did them all himself" (he didn't do all of his fight scenes or stunts himself ). Tony Jaa's biggest problem was that he had maybe 3 good movies with him being in a leading role . He is similar in that way to Steven Seagal .
In ancient times, muay thai or muay boran was actually considered a kind of weapon in war specifically between Thailand and Burma. Soldiers that mastered in muay thai were assigned to protect each leg of King's elephant in the war zone, for close combat purpose. And yes! in those days, Kings or leaders battled each war on elephant-back.
@@Junweitrustnobody1403At war if you have to take down an elephant with just swords and spears, you'd have to target it's legs, hence a soldier for each legs protection. Similar to infantry supporting tanks in urban combat situation in modern doctrine.
@@i3oringdayz ah right right like how halberd or other polearm is useful against horsemen. Is there historical drawings of elephant's legs been covered? I'm very curious
@@Junweitrustnobody1403 Google image this word "จตุลังคบาท" or "Chatulangkhabat", unfortunately not too much info in English but plenty of pictures thought.
To Tony Jaa's defense, those are Muay Boran punches, not Western Boxing. Muay Boran kinda became Muay Thai after the introduction of Western Boxing from the Phillipines where they added boxing gloves to increase safety. The influence of Western boxing raised the stance from a low stance to high stance, changed punches, and added rules to standardize the Sport of Muay Thai from of the art of Muay Boran.
@@BrandonTLuong from what I know, Americans introduced boxing to the Philippines in the early 1900s and was legalized in 1921. It was during this time of the reign of King Rama VII(1920-1930) that he hosted many Phillipine boxing matches and used that to standardize Muay Thai.
@@damienthetexasian6827 according from wiki there's no mention of King rama VII hosting many Philippines boxing match Because it was the British boxing not Philippines, Rama VII at the time only support national sport that is muay thai, And boxing gloves is influenced by the British boxing not "Philippines boxing"
@@PranadonNakaseths i hear ya. I questioned it also when both my Thai coaches told me. I too had never heard the Phillipino boxing connection. No reason these both can't be true.
Its kind of the same with Karate, where most karate schools teach karate that falls under "tournament rules", so a lot of the actual techniques are slowly being forgotten except for their places of origin. I dont know enough about Muay Thai to correct her on the "different levels of Muay Thai to master? I don't know what he's talking about", but I feel that there's definitely somewhat of a rank system of sorts, much like other martial arts having ranks.
Tony Jaa is a legend. Most of his moves are real. Choreography is based on the real Muay Boran style. It is not the sport Muay Tai Boxing. It is street Muay Tai
is not street fight! is a style developed to defend the elephant of the king enemy try to cut elephant foot so the king had a potential death just from falling elite soldiers protect the elephant with the classic 2 sword when they lose the swords they use muay BORAN 1 hit = disable\kill the enemy only elbow, clinch and knee
Tony Jaa teeped to the face in that scene to return the disrespect the other guy had shown just before (Flipping him off, saying "f*ck muay thai"). Touching the face with a foot is considered disrespectful in traditional Thai culture.
The low stance she pointed out also took place just after the face kick. The camera was looking up from the point of view of the downed opponent. It was a flex on Tony's part to show Big Bear he was in control.
Muay Thai is probably the most useful, practical martial art there is. Combined with Brazilian Jiu-jistu or Western Wrestling it's perfect. It's also the most entertaining fighting style to watch. You guys have an amazing culture. :)
So I grew up in Thailand doing Muay Chaiya, a southern Muay Boran style. I believe the tiger knee is a reference to a specific low stance where you're almost in a lunged position, back knee almost touching the ground. The idea is to bait a mid-low kick and transition into a sweep or strike. I think the stance translates to "tiger drags its tail". It's possible to do a knee strike from that position, but takes a great deal of athleticism, energy, and wind-up that's generally not practical and thus not expected - but a great deal of power if delivered. Maybe the anime just wanted a signature move and formulated the name "tiger knee", but it's possible this is a reference to a tiger stance into an improbable knee strike that distills the idea that only someone with top tier athleticism and experience could do.
You nailed it. If I recall it right, that is more or less the animation for tiger knee in Street Fighter 2, he lowers the stance before throwing the knee. Also in-story Sagat is supposed to be super powerful physically, so much so Ryu has to learn magic to defeat him.
My guess is ... at the time the game is developed, muay Thai is less well known. The developer kinda make up the name of all of his move. And in this case of Sagat, all of his move has the word "tiger" on its name. We are talking about game (and this anime adaptation) that has yoga practioner able to stretch their limps, float in the air, and even breath fire. No one is expecting realism I guess.
@@WutipongWongsakuldej when street fighter came out the Japanese already knrw about how effective muay thai was. thats why they made their nemesis Sagat. most people dont even know who Sagat is nowadays. the Japanese karate fighters knew how tough old school muay thai fighters were.
Here is another fact about Tony Jaa. Tony did fight as a Muay Thai Fighter. His record was 5-0. He decided to pursue movies because of the art of Muay Thai and Muay Boran for his country rather than just fighting against people. Tony Jaa's form is 10/10 for the movie Ong Bak.
Are you seriously comparing someone with 5 fights (were they even pro?) vs someone who's an 8 time world champion? I think it's a bit telling you clowns actually think a movie is real, hint it's not.
@@SlayerofFictiondon’t forget, he’s actually Thai. Means he grew up with it as his national sport. Course he’s no champion, but the art is in his blood as his birth right.
I agree. I started practicing Muay Thai after going through a bad breakup in 2004, where we watched Ong Bak (her recommendation) in Theaters. Of course, the guns I was checking out made it very clear that it was Muay Boran in the film. Still practicing to this day and started mixing in more of the Dutch style.
Before tony Yaa it was the JCVD movies Kickboxer and Bloodsport that popularized the sport. I mean, everybody wanted to be Tong Po back in the days kicking concrete beams.
There is also a kick called "Crocodile tail strike" (จระเข้ฟาดหาง) in Muay Thai as well. And that scene that Tony Jaa "teep" the opponent face is called "Feet Rub Face" move (บาทาลูบพักตร์)
A kick with the sole of the foot to the face is considered a severe offense. You do this on purpose to insult your opponent. The logic behind it: in Thai culture the head is view as the vessel of one's soul, the foot - touching the ground - is dirty. So, trying to run dirt onto one's soul is disrespectful.
Years ago, I had the chance of attending a Muay Thai event in Bangkok. Seeing the fighters perform the Wai Khru before the fight was simply beautiful. And those kicks they were throwing at each other during the fight were vicious: they looked (and sounded) like they could kill you on the spot.
Muay Thai is considered as a weapon in Thailand btw. If you are a fighter or practice it and use it to kill or hurt someone that can be considered as weapon.
@@RovalisGTO a regular person would be in the emergency hospital my Asian friend almost killed two dudes in high school, he defended himself against those wannabe bullies, I knew it was Muay Thai because I watched tony jaa movies
FYI Tony Jaa is displaying classical Muay Boran guard stance which is more angular and more protective than sport Muay Thai's 11 guard. The Muay Boran techniques displayed here from Ong Bak all have traditional poetic names influenced by the epic myth of Ramakien which is based on the Hindu Ramayana. The teep to the face is "Bata Loopak" or "Foot Touches Face" which is also a sign of disrespect toward an opponent. The second one where Tony jumps over Big Bear's kicking leg and knees him in the face is "Hanuman Kham Longka" or "Monkey King Crosses the city of Lanka". The late Grandmaster Sidyodtong actually makes a cameo here and utters the technique out loud. Lastly, the jumping double knee and double elbow is called "Chuey Khang" or "Chuck the Chin" movement. Also "Kickboxer" is an iconic JCVD movie, but really deserves a 2/10 instead of a 4 for a lot of inaccuracies. I doubt the general audience would not be too keen on them but a seasoned person already in the know about Muay Thai would definitely have a field day. For one, old style boxers do not dip their kaad chuek or hand rope wrappings in giant chunks of broken glass but finely ground bits for the abrasion. To name some others, there's a scene where Van Damme is training against a hard palm tree not a banana tree which boxers actually use in lieu of a heavy bag. Banana trees have a fleshy plant-like stem, not wood. This makes them suitable for hitting without damage to the shins. And lastly, except for a few scenes, Van Damme is mostly throwing karate-style kicks throughout the entire movie when he's supposed to be using Thai-style kicks.
@@Katcom111 Yea he coined it "muay Surin" because that's the name of the place where Jaa is from. But it's a little akin to saying "muay Bangkok" if it came from Bangkok. Through and through it's just muay Boran that Jaa is practicing and displaying. Historically speaking "muay Boran" comes from the same roots as other systems like pradal Serey and lethwei and is the umbrella term to cover all of the major regional flavors of Korat, Chaiya. Lopburi and Thasao. You can even throw Krabi Krabong into there as it is a type of muay Boran. In Tony's second movie, however, he came up with "muay Kotchasarn" or Elephant Boxing style which was brilliantly portrayed and totally fictitious lol.
Funfact : Muay Boran is a style developed to defend the elephant of the king when enemy try to cut elephant foot.. 4 elite soldiers protect the elephant with the classic 2 sword. when they lose the swords they use muay BORAN There are many dangerous techniques such as breaking joints, and takedown.
Really nice straight forward breakdown, by someone who obviously knows their stuff. Always good to hear a professional at the top of their game just talking shop.
She doesn’t. Know one who knows MA or kinetics would say a kick starts from the opposite side. It’s natural resistance from a hard body, I.e. the ground
As soon as I saw Miriam in the thumbnail for the video rating movie fight scenes I had to click and watch, good job on getting one of the most respectable Muay Thai fighters to rate videos for you, one of my idols lol
"I have to rate this high because it's Tony Jaa" Based on this statement and her criticisms of Jaa's technique, I get the impression she probably wanted to rate it lower but knew the comments section would come after her
Jony Jaa really popularized Muay Thai on the world stage. I would watch his fight scenes a dozen times and had no idea what type of fighting art he used but later learned it was Muay Thai. A legend!
It’s always been popular in Europe. There’s Muay Thai events every weekend, it’s only just really becoming popular in the USA now. One championship just did an American prime time show so hopefully it’ll gain the popularity it deserves.
@@edwardfletcher7790 And yet what distinguishes Thai boxers who are just average from the really good ones is command of rhythm, distance and timing. The thing that makes Buakaw so terrifying is the way he keeps his own timing and rhythm, moves it around like jazz, and makes the other guy conform to it.
@@toddellner Not really my point. I'm referring to the terrible Chinese Opera style arm waving crap. I think Muay Thai fighters are better simply because of the style & their absolute dedication to perfection.
My friend broke his arm blocking a Muay Thai round kick without thinking during training and the kick was only thrown at half power. Oh the memories lol.
@@cheesypuffs1342 Use cover or shield your head with your arms, very similiar to western boxing to soften the blow and protect the head. Usually round kicks have less power to the head than kicks to the body and legs, or just evade the kick all together if possible. Lol
That was one of my gripes about the scene with Tony Jaa and Paul Walker. In close quarters, covering with your forearm is better than getting kicked in the head. Her critiques strictly comes from Muay Thai in the ring with a lot of space.
Tony Jaa does Muay Boran, which is the ancient combat martial arts used in battle which was then sporterized into modern Muay Thai. There is some correlation but there will be lots of moves in Boran not used in Muay Thai. My friend is an instructor in Muay Boran. He taught me the differences and a few unique techniques.
@@eliseoreyes1858 No you're half right half wrong lol.. I'm sure Tony Jaa knows Muay Thai, but in Movies he mostly uses Muay Boran. It's more flashy and cooler for movies. I don't see any moves like Samart or Saechai in movies.. Unless you're trying to accurately portray Muay Thai. In Tony Jaa movies its probably like 70% Muay Boran and 30% Muay Thai.
@@eliseoreyes1858 so... where did muay thai come from if not from the original martial art... and even she says it's Boran in the analysis... are you one of those people that just has to say something even if it's wrong?
7:39 "I've never heard of a Tiger Knee. It's just a knee buddy." Sagat is over 7 feet tall with a knee the size of most people's torso. That and having the ability to kick through boulders qualify it as a Tiger Knee lol
@@mhm1767 obviously, the humour missed you. Street Fighter first released in 1987, Sagat and his Tiger Knee since 91- 3 decades, to her 2. Thank you kindly. Being that she was busy training to be champion instead of playing games, like Umz Games obviously was, it's that shocking, it's humour lol
When you see Tony Jaa in movies .It not muaythai style for sport. You heard her talk about "muaythai boran"(for kill in war) In thai have muaythai boran 5 style - muay chaiya(south) - muay lopburey(central region) - muay taa-saou(North) - muay korat (Northeast) - muay pa-la-sig-sa (capital) Tony Jaa uses muay korat style (his hometown) it has a wider range than other tyres. Well come to Thailand.
I remember when I first saw Ong Bak, in 2004 (I guess, idk exactly), It was absolutely insane, like nothing I've seen before, I knew nothing about it and it had that "'jaw dropping" effect on me... in fact, even nowadays I don't think there's something better out there in terms of "fighting movies", he really set a new standard.
What I liked more than the fights was that the protagonist was actively trying to avoid fighting. Got tired of those films where the protagonist is a "pacifist" who, at the first inconvenience, just stands defiantly, waiting for someone to provoke him into a "justified" fight. It was "hey! this guy actually acts as if he did not want to fight!". The persecutions were cool, too.
@@sergiojuanmembiela6223 True. Jet Li when I saw him in Kiss of The Dragon and then later on Romeo Must Die, he was insanely fast and very grounded. It was a lot more realistic fighting than I had seen from Jet before that. Onk-Bak 2 is also great. I love Tony Jaa's story as well. As soon as his fame was growing, he retired from movies, was gone for years, then came back and started doing films again.
Tony Jaa is literally a legend in movies. He does his own stunts and choreography. He is very skilled and trained very well so he can prolly do al the stunts he does in movies in real life. And he really knows what's he doing, so he must be rated much more.
@@SlayerofFiction he is not only an actor, but also trained in martial arts. sure, he probably wouldn't win a championship, but saying he is just an actor is disrespectful.
*I love how she doesn't try to discredit them so much and constantly uses "Not like anything I have seen before".* *That's a good strategic disclaimer.*
I trained Muay Thai for many years. She's spot on. I learned 6 different kicks outside of the Low Kick, Round Kick, Front Kick and Head kick. there is of course the Axe kick and I learned 6 other ones from 2 different masters who came to Master Toddy's school in Vegas from Master Green that are devastating and not legal in a professional fight, but you can do them on the street. She was spot on with everything she said. She reminds me of my wife who is also a Muay Thai fighter and Southpaw boxer. Excellent video!
I worked in Bangkok for 5 years from 2000-2005 and watched Ong Bak at the cinema in Thailand when it came out 2003 about 2-3 years before being released in UK, straight away I knew this would turn Jaa Phanom, aka Mr Tony Jaa from Surin into a mega star……. Mauy Thai Boran
I was in Muay Thai for 15 years or so. We used shinai swords to condition our shins a lot. I’d forgotten about a lot of little things. Fun to watch. Like curling the hand in when she shows elbows… broke my back and had to stop. The skip kick was a favorite of mine.
@@VeraxMusic not really. Kinda changed my life. I spent my 30’s at home. Still in pain every day but I’m moving around and stuff. So it got better after 10 years of not changing. It sucks but I’m grateful it’s better than it was now. Thanks for asking.
@@Meckaneckk no gym. Where we did the first several years closed down years ago now. We did it to ourselves. My brother and I. Lol. I’d never have done that to any students. That’s just about the dumbest thing anyone could do in the states. Lol
With how cheesy Power Rangers have always been, I’m surprised they even considered showing a fight from it. Even in the fight shown, she probably wasn’t even intentionally trying to do a Muay Thai move. Lol
@@antman9259 You're not wrong but he was a moron it was a "Muay Thai" fighter While everyone else did Kung Fu even in the Japanese version. (which is very funny) when he transforms he puts on traditional muay thai uniform (then through the magic of special effects) that becomes his costume. Look up geki-violet.
Some of Thai words in this video Teep = ถีบ = Using the flat of your feet to punt something. Same word is used for when you ride a bicycle Boran = โบราณ = Ancient/old. Muay Boran basically just means old style boxing Mongkhon = มงคล = A headgear, there are a lots of tradition and ritualistic aspect to muay thai and this part of them. Interstingly มงคล also mean auspicious in normal day-to-day usage. Wai Khru = ไหว้ครู = Traditional ritual of venerating your teacher/school before the match. ไหว้ is a thai version of indian greeting. ครู/Khru means teacher, cognate with of the word Guru. Rum muay = รำมวย = literally means boxing dance Not an expert on the field so forgive me if I get something wrong.
She definitely is but the number of Ong Bak fanboys who are talking smack about her just because she criticized the realism in Ong Bak is ridiculous....there will always be these dummies who can't separate movies from reality when it comes to martial arts....it's the one thing where for some stupid reason the average Joe still believes that what they see on screen is real and then they'll get mad when an actual professional fighters tells them it's not
@@cyborgchicken3502 To be fair she is talking quite a bit of nonsense in this clip. I put it down to the different style of Muay Thai that is likely being taught in the US. One example is at 10:45 - 11:05, she says you don't do that, even though it is very common to see. In the video "Rodtang's Dangerous Muay Thai Style", you may see Rodtang (one of the best Muay Thai fighters in Thailand) perform this multiple times. Just after the 7 minute mark or at 11:22 are two examples. Guard down during a Muay Thai fight in front of a fighter at close (elbow) range, dishing out hooks. Ramon Dekkers is another fighter that very often did that. Again there is a video on yt: "The Very Best of Ramon Dekkers (Knockouts/Highlights) | Muay Thai" that shows him within the first minute do it multiple times. 0:25 through 0:32 for example. 0:30 to 0:32 also show him standing low in front of his opponent whilst finishing him, something she says you don't do in Muay Thai (standing low). Both of those fighter's footages (especially the 0:25 to 0:32 from Dekkers) are also contrary to what she says at 6:07. Odd that she doesn't remember this very common technique called "hook". The shown film footage of the hooks by Tony Jaa look rather like wild arm swings instead of a controlled hook, though. It is a movie after all.
@@muppet5760 i see your point of view but I suppose in her case she's talking about it from her own experiences and her own style of fighting, every Muay Thai fighter has a different way of using the art in a professional fight, it doesn't mean she's talking nonsense though, mind you she both competed and trained in Thailand during her 14 fight run as a Muay Thai champ, so it's possible that whatever school she trained at didn't implement those techniques you mentioned, or perhaps she just didn't include them in her style of fighting, the fact that she won all 14 bouts in her career with no losses and has been training in Muay Thai for over 20 years is proof enough that she knows what she's talking about at least based on her own experiences, maybe she's wrong in saying that it's absolutely never used, you've just provided examples that there are cases of such techniques being used but I don't think it discredits her opinion and her experience in any way...she's got the fight record and skill to prove that she knows what she's talking about....also Tony Jaa isn't a professional fighter, he's an actor and has trained in Muay Boran which is the more ancient style of Muay Thai
Very impressive. As a Thai, to see foreigners has true knowledge in Muay Thai and Muay Boran more than average Thais and use the terms so correctly. Especially the comments! It's so different from Thai food videos, where most of the clip and comments usually go wrong.
I studied the original Muay Thai, we had bamboo sticks in the gym for shin conditioning, as we advanced in training the aim was to one day break the bamboo with our shin, I accomplished not just that but the ability to kick metal, I have 5 wins from low kicks alone. Muay Thai is the perfect street Martial Art if the practitioner can use it well. I can transition easily to effective moves, that is what helped me win fights. If you try grabbing me you get a knee or an elbow. We even have an elbow done when an opponent grabs your wrist, you just tuck in the wrist while lifting the elbow over to the opponents head, or pull down your wrist, bringing the opponents head to a knee or spinning elbow. Today I am a referee with the kickboxing federation. Van Damme's kick in Blood Sport was a karate kick, he was doing a flick kick most of the time, which is an incomplete kick in Muay Thai, where your hip or pelvis has to be in the kick, it is a total transfer of bodyweight into the kick which can send you into a spin if you miss.
@@henryhoover3953 Chances are very high if the athlete is smart enough with the leg kicks. Edson Barboza and Pat Barry have done it multiple times. In Jose Aldo vs Uriah Faber, Jose seriously messed up Uriah's legs
I love the selection for this. I was not expecting Street Fighter and... Power Rangers. I loved that she still gave us knowledge even when it was something silly, instead of just being like 'that's wrong and dumb.'
In most of these type vids I've seen (not many) the experts are good about it. Pretty sure they have some that do the "that just dumb" and not explain why. But mostly respected the experts they find.
I always find differences between martial arts fascinating. Like how she said in Muay Thai, you shouldn’t point your toes when kicking. I took karate for 10 years and we ALWAYS pointed our toes. Because in karate, you kick with your foot rather than your shin, and kicking without curling or pointing your toes can cause you to break them. Just found that interesting.
It's called a Tiger Knee because it's from a video game that entered production around 1988. Everything Sagat does is Tiger whatever, even the fireballs. It's his thing. Her head might have exploded if she saw a Tiger Uppercut.
Didn't see that cartoon. Actually Tiger Knee from the videogame is... Like majority of special moves in Street fighter, the question is: if someone is given the power to break laws of physics and do it, can anyone defend against it? how would the woman in the video prepare for a fight with an opponent blessed by the gods with the tiger knee or tiger uppercut working exactly as they do in the videogame?
@@BlackestEyes709 Don't forget his signature super, Tiger Genocide. But if a 7'4" Thai Fighter wants to knee your chest in, he can call it whatever he wants.
I have been training WT for 2 years and 5 years on and off of Krav Maga. We had a couple of Muay Thai trainers visit from Thailand before the covid thing and had a sparring session with them.. I have never, in those 7 years, have my wind knocked out of me on the level that he did when he got close to me.. I had a good hold until i got an elbow to my jaw and a kick to my ribs right after. Lets just say i sat down for a second.
Muay boran (Tony used) has a low stance in order to defend take down. Muay boran came from battle fields. People only needed to strike, defend, and take down. Muay boran has many joint locks and take downs but 0 submission and ground fight. Why? Back in old wars, if you got thrown to the ground, you'd get stomped or ran over or stabbed with any objects then died. No need to do arm bar or other submission. (Even in real fight today, once you throw a person with Judo or Wrestling or whatsoever, you can very well smack the dude with a rock or any hard object, or stomp his head "IF" you aint afraid of lawsuits after for killing the person. No ground fighting needed to win a fight). Anyways thays why Tony's stance or Muay borna stance is low. Muay thai stance tosay is standing tall to strike fast and hard and also because it doesn't have take downs, so you don't need to lower your body for extra balance.
There isn't any record that Muay Boran unarmed striking was used in warfare. Most likely swords, spears and pikes. When musket guns and cannons was introduced in the 15th century in southeast asia. It is no use to fight unarmed.
@@Katcom111 Muay is not the main fighting way but for when you lost your weapon or using along your weapon. And Battle in that time less warrior gain access to armor. Imagine fighting against warior that expert in his weapon and muay. You could be kicked or punch along the fight no need to use muay with bare hand. When you are too focus on weapon fighting and got lower kick as surprise then he gain advantage for sure. There are no rule in battlefield to use your weapon in hand and switch to Muay only when you lost weapon. The damage from kicke might not break your bone but your muscle will be damaged and that pain af. Once you can't keep moving you are dead meat in battlefield. That why they always said that design to take life in battlefield. Muay thai give you an advantage in fighting.
So I’m guessing she didn’t watch Ong Bak, because she said she wouldn’t get that low, but Tony Ja only got that low on that occasion because his opponent was on the ground, so he closed in to check if the fight was over while maintaining a defensive stance
He retired, became a monk, right when his career was taking off, then after a few years went back to making movies, only to find that the industry had changed to a more streaming focused environment. He was in Monster Hunter, which is way better than people give it credit. He also did Jiu Jitsu with Nicolas Cage. He is going to be in The Expendables 4 next year.
As an an eleven yaers long true fan of MH. I want to reject but I can't, lmao. That movie is an absolute garbage and a disgrace to the whole of MH series.
the way that Tony Ja hook the punch@06:00 is a punch technique from Mauy Korat (one of Mauy Boran) . It called " mud- kwang- kway" ( หมัดขว้างควาย). Love your video, krab.
If you grab an arm and do it with the arm included you literally have a flying triangle choke I think a lot of Martial artists under estimate what is possible just because it is not optimal. a frankensteiner is a totally legitimate martial arts manoeuvre it's just not a very good one but if that is all the situation presents you with that's what you going to do I think a lot of the problem with martial artist is they don't fight in real-world circumstances play the fight for sport which is not real you don't have a referee in real life nobody there to break up the fight if it gets too bad work course they don't know what they're doing and they just train and I couldn't use it in a real situation anyway I have used manoeuvres nobody would ever told me to use simply because the opportunity presents itself martial arts can be very rigid for some reason optimisation you should take a back seat 2 opportunity plus if you grab somebody by the genitals and left you can easily get some really good fight because they don't know how to counter lifts and it's really funny.
at 5:05, the low stance is mostly for defensive, and counter into legs' joints. It is also true that in Ong Bak they would change the stance to look cool
Van Damme comes from shotokan Karate. The reason why we “fold” the foot away from the shin during a roundhouse kick (she calls it pointing your toes) is simply to avoid a multiple fracture to your toes if the top of your toes hit your target (think his shoulder or elbow) when you hit. For example, imagine if Leon Edwards toes had hit Kumaru Usman instead of his shin. He would have broken his on toes on the spot and lost the fight. So some fighting styles sacrifice a bit of energy on that kick to remove the risk of breaking your toes. Unless you’re wearing shoes of course, then it’s ok. This lady’s hit by the way. And 23 years of fighting? How old is she?
In a competition you actually do not do that, you hit with the flat side of the foot, and have the toes like a Muay Thai fighter. In "a real fight" you flex the tows and hit with the toes (the ball of the foot behind the toes). Because that makes the target area smaller, especially when you want to hit a pressure point. And if you aim for the head: you easy hit behind the block, if there is a block.
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According to wikipedia, about 45 at the time of the video
Oh nooo!!! You didn't have any scenes from The Protector! That fight scene with Tony Jaa Vs Lateef Crowder was one of the BEST fights I've ever seen in a movie! Nooo! Run that back with The Protector! 😆
As a Muay Thai fighter myself, i agree with most of what she is saying. Best advice to do is to not get into a fight with people, just try to avoid confrontation as much as possible.
as someone whose fought in muay boran and muay thai for about the same amount of time she really knows her stuff and was a blast to watch, her points were fantastic.
My first exposure to Muay Thai was Street Fighter 2. I didn't know what Sagat was fighting with but it's the closest thing I saw to Muay Thai. Then the next was Tekken 2 with Bruce Irving. I thought it looked pretty cool but again had no idea what it was. Then I saw it more in the UFC and over the course of a few years, I saw Ong Bak and so on and so forth and now I know what it is.
i can totally see where she's coming from but i also understand the traditional fighting style from ong bak which i would say is as useful or wouldnt stray far from the modern techniques of muay thai. most modern style martial arts dont go high or uses a more simple techniques to fight because most fighters nowadays are restricted by their physicality. So yeah, i'd say i agree with her but also with Tony. XD
Thank you for your feedback on these movies! Love Tony Jaa and he was the influence for me to learn Thai. Only learned it for 1yr but would love to get back into it. And with that Fast/ Furious movie, I'm sorry but Paul Walker against Jaa wasn't that believable because Jaa would have taken him out in one or two hits!
Miriam is the best! Such a nice person, and legit as they come! It's a shame that some of her analysis surely had to get cut out because of time restraints.
Yes, but it's Muay Boran that is the original martial art for self-defense or lethal offense. Muay Thai is developed during the 1900s with regulations and restrictions to make the said martial art a viable competitive sport.
any viable martial art is effective for fighting. boxing, kickboxing a few types of wrestling, bjj, certain types of karate, sambo, some parts of taekwondo, some parts of judo. thats why mma is a thing, i do agree tho if you're solely gonna learn one style muay thai is a great idea especially if u got a good gym
Thanks for sharing. I love breakdowns of fight scenes. I do it myself. Not to say I am any form of martial arts expert. But I like to watch, rewatch, slow down, and see what attacks are being used, reactions, figure out the move's intention and things that could have gone better. I never looked closely at Muay Thai. This was very educational for me. I draw comics and maybe one day, I'll have a Muay Thai fighter.
The original Muay Thai is a style that go for the kills which mostly aimed at critical part of the body like the head/neck or chest especially the heart. The Muay Thai have gone through a lot of changes to be accepted in the tournament fight to avoid serious injuries. All true Muay Thai fighters that was taught in Thailand would know the history of it. Kicking of the banana tree is one of the old training that was used in the past to stronger the bone. Some fighter in the past generation would break their bone during training to have much stronger and hard bone regrown over n over again. I know all this thanks to my mother who is a thai and have been taught by cousin.
Very correct aboht kicking banana trees and breaking the bones part. Please check out Nai khanom tom. Hes our folklore hero that used muay boran to fight off invaders ;)
@@trakkaton I'm sure if you've looked up Muay Thai, it was never a sport but a form of combat. Like OP mentioned, true Muay Thai was meant to be lethal by nature: either straight up kill or incapacitate them. In combat SPORTS there are certain restrictions to striking the head. I believe true Muay Thai elbow strikes were intended to break the skull, which is clearly not permitted in a sporting capacity. In regards to the heart, if we can make a heart pump with enough force via CPR, it stands to reason you can make a heart stop with enough force and precision. As a lethal form of combat, head, neck and heart is the go to.
@@L00N101 There are no succesful knock outs by hitting the sternum in MMA even though it's not forbidden. There are no elbows taht crack the skull in MMA even though elbows are not forbidden. Can you apply logic?
There's just something in the way that Miriam explains fighting concepts that brings such clarity. You can tell her expertise by her observations, her choice of words, and her laid-back confidence -- SO great to see, and I felt like this explainer, in particular because of all of this, was so easy to follow (for me, which says a lot lol) -- well done!
i scrolled the comments and they're all saying Tony Jaa does Boran so I assumed the expert didn't mention it. But she literally says in the video "I guess that's Boran" lol
Regarding Bloodsport and it's inaccuracies: I'm pretty sure Frank Dux was the "techincal consultant" on that movie, since it was supposed to be about his life. Frank Dux was also a pathological liar and made the whole story up. He also said that he was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor when he was in the Army in Vietnam, but in the picture of him wearing it, he's wearing the Air Force variant. When questioned about it, he said that they couldn't keep up with demand, so they had to give him that one in the meantime. Also, he was never in Vietnam
Yep... Deeply disillusioned when all the insane bollocks that Dux invented came out. When you think back on what he claimed I am astonished anyone ever believed it--myself included! But.. It was Ninja stuff and it is impossible to say how cool ninja stuff was in the mid to late eighties. We actively _wanted_ to believe. I think that made all the difference. And then a Segal came along and did pretty much the same thing! Although I think those particular clips came from 'Kickboxer', which came out the year after 'Bloodsport'. But they were both JVD's biggest films, or at least they were what put him on the map.
@@morelenmir It seemed like every evil businessman had his own island and ninja in the 80's. Why did that ever go out of fashion? If Jeffrey Epstein had ninjas on his island instead of children, he'd prolly be alive today
Champion Nakamoto is absolutely correct about shins vs forearm. Her truth also applies in Tae Kwon Do , you have a lot of roundhouses coming at you and you will destroy your forearms if you depend on them against mid level or high kicks .
I mean, cant you condition your forearms like you can your shins? Or is it just that its not very useful outside of forearm blocks so there isnt really a reason to do it? I know in her style the shins are basically shield and sword so it makes sense to focus so much on them.
@@chrishubbard64 The shin bone is thicker and is much closer to the skin in the leg so that specific area hardens/toughens with repeated trauma over time. Practical utility demands that you will have to use your forearms from time to time , but the areas that are kicked will primarily do damage to the muscles surrounding the bone . Sure block with those areas when you need to, but don't make it a habit to counter/check a shin with your forearm a majority of the time.
reviews like these are awesome and we know that they are professionals of their craft. the problem with these kinds of reviews is that it only focuses on tournament kind of fights. and they are reviewing street fights. the thing with street fights is that there are no rules so even if you are, let's say a muay thai trainee, youll throw wild punches and be in an awkward or different stance sometimes because your opponent does not have rules
What you see in Muay Thai (sport, tv, movies) is half of its original form, the original Muay Thai (Muay thai Boran, well known in the west Tony Jaa) which is training for barehanded combat during the wars (swords and shields barehanded barefoot), It's training to kill.
My dad is from the middle eastern part of Thailand and told me that they kick banana trees in order to train their shin to be tough. Like you literally break part of your shin and the bone will grow making your bone structure change a bit and become tougher. They punched tires to make the knuckle rough too. I don't know it's from the traditional boxing or it's a training regimen for most like OG training type.
Most people wouldn't know Muay Thai if not for Tony Jaa and Ong Bak..dude's a legend
If your a fan of muay Thai I highly suggest you watch samart Payakaroon if you've haven't before the man is a true legend in the muay thai world
Tony's films are shot so well, they really demonstrate his ability. Long shots that really sell the action, rather than quick cuts to make someone 'look good'. Good stuff! :)
3 influences for me when it came to being aware of muay Thai which are true crime 2, Bruce from Tekken and Tony JAA
What about buakaw guys
Buakaw..is legend
Tony Jaa's Muay Thai skills are not only showcased excellently in movies, but he is also a well-trained martial artist with a strong foundation in Muay Thai. Apart from his performances on screen, he has participated in various martial arts competitions and demonstrations, demonstrating his genuine expertise in the field of Muay Thai
Tony Jaa is boss
Tony Jaa is an amazing fighter. My Dad raised me on his movies and every time I think of a great Muay Thai fighter that is around today, it's him. And it's like she said, a lot of it was Hollywood-ized for dramatic effect but he knows what he's doing.
Is Muay Boran*, no Muay Thai
It's sad that Tony Jaa doesn't get much credit like he used to.
Seriously, that dude could do some brutal looking battles. In a more just world he would have his own super popular niche like, jackie chan and his crazy stunts and desperate scramble, where nobody does it like them and they have a huge following.
Cause he hasn't made any good movies lately.
@@chrishubbard64 he does have a super popular niche, what bubble are you stuck in? And how is jackie chan a super popular niche? He is an international super star. Wait a minute? What is a super popular niche that's an oxymoronic statement.
Muhammad ali and bruce lee make some mistakes to. They al humans its normal
@@chrishubbard64 Jackie Chan was one of the most popular actors in the 90s and early 2000s because of his stunts and fight scenes that "he did them all himself" (he didn't do all of his fight scenes or stunts himself ). Tony Jaa's biggest problem was that he had maybe 3 good movies with him being in a leading role . He is similar in that way to Steven Seagal .
In ancient times, muay thai or muay boran was actually considered a kind of weapon in war specifically between Thailand and Burma. Soldiers that mastered in muay thai were assigned to protect each leg of King's elephant in the war zone, for close combat purpose. And yes! in those days, Kings or leaders battled each war on elephant-back.
protect each leg of King's elephant, in what way?
@@Junweitrustnobody1403At war if you have to take down an elephant with just swords and spears, you'd have to target it's legs, hence a soldier for each legs protection. Similar to infantry supporting tanks in urban combat situation in modern doctrine.
@@i3oringdayz ah right right like how halberd or other polearm is useful against horsemen. Is there historical drawings of elephant's legs been covered? I'm very curious
@@Junweitrustnobody1403 Google image this word "จตุลังคบาท" or "Chatulangkhabat", unfortunately not too much info in English but plenty of pictures thought.
All Asian martial art was use in war
To Tony Jaa's defense, those are Muay Boran punches, not Western Boxing. Muay Boran kinda became Muay Thai after the introduction of Western Boxing from the Phillipines where they added boxing gloves to increase safety. The influence of Western boxing raised the stance from a low stance to high stance, changed punches, and added rules to standardize the Sport of Muay Thai from of the art of Muay Boran.
not sure about the Philippines part but definitely agree on the rest of the history.
@@BrandonTLuong from what I know, Americans introduced boxing to the Philippines in the early 1900s and was legalized in 1921. It was during this time of the reign of King Rama VII(1920-1930) that he hosted many Phillipine boxing matches and used that to standardize Muay Thai.
@@damienthetexasian6827 according from wiki there's no mention of King rama VII hosting many Philippines boxing match Because it was the British boxing not Philippines, Rama VII at the time only support national sport that is muay thai, And boxing gloves is influenced by the British boxing not "Philippines boxing"
@@PranadonNakaseths i hear ya. I questioned it also when both my Thai coaches told me. I too had never heard the Phillipino boxing connection.
No reason these both can't be true.
Its kind of the same with Karate, where most karate schools teach karate that falls under "tournament rules", so a lot of the actual techniques are slowly being forgotten except for their places of origin.
I dont know enough about Muay Thai to correct her on the "different levels of Muay Thai to master? I don't know what he's talking about", but I feel that there's definitely somewhat of a rank system of sorts, much like other martial arts having ranks.
Tony Jaa is a legend. Most of his moves are real. Choreography is based on the real Muay Boran style. It is not the sport Muay Tai Boxing. It is street Muay Tai
is not street fight!
is a style developed to defend the elephant of the king
enemy try to cut elephant foot so the king had a potential death just from falling
elite soldiers protect the elephant with the classic 2 sword
when they lose the swords they use muay BORAN
1 hit = disable\kill the enemy
only elbow, clinch and knee
@@RealNotallGaming i know ser. Thanks for info))
* THAI*
What's Tai
@@Meckaneckk The professor above means *Thai *
Tony Jaa teeped to the face in that scene to return the disrespect the other guy had shown just before (Flipping him off, saying "f*ck muay thai"). Touching the face with a foot is considered disrespectful in traditional Thai culture.
Thanks for pointing this out.
BTW, I've heard that Indians hate to touch Harij and thus would try to fight relying only on kicks.
Push kick
Steep kick
But in dutch kick boxing its the front kick
And its my favorite kick lol
Its easy and fast
But it's ALSO a great kick to hurt someone. An return insult to insult
The low stance she pointed out also took place just after the face kick. The camera was looking up from the point of view of the downed opponent. It was a flex on Tony's part to show Big Bear he was in control.
@@edi9892 what is Harij?
I'm thai, I didn't know there would be so many people interested in Muay Thai. I'm so glad! thank you for this video!
We grew up watching ong bak and tom yum goong. You would be surprised to know how many 90s kid in India know Tony Jaa.
Muay Thai is probably the most useful, practical martial art there is. Combined with Brazilian Jiu-jistu or Western Wrestling it's perfect. It's also the most entertaining fighting style to watch. You guys have an amazing culture. :)
@@almor2445yea it’s literally boxing with kicking ( and knees and elbows) super useful. GOAT martial art
@@phabove7 wow ❤
So I grew up in Thailand doing Muay Chaiya, a southern Muay Boran style. I believe the tiger knee is a reference to a specific low stance where you're almost in a lunged position, back knee almost touching the ground. The idea is to bait a mid-low kick and transition into a sweep or strike. I think the stance translates to "tiger drags its tail". It's possible to do a knee strike from that position, but takes a great deal of athleticism, energy, and wind-up that's generally not practical and thus not expected - but a great deal of power if delivered.
Maybe the anime just wanted a signature move and formulated the name "tiger knee", but it's possible this is a reference to a tiger stance into an improbable knee strike that distills the idea that only someone with top tier athleticism and experience could do.
Now you have me thinking about Sagat, both the street fighter character and the actual fighter.
You nailed it. If I recall it right, that is more or less the animation for tiger knee in Street Fighter 2, he lowers the stance before throwing the knee. Also in-story Sagat is supposed to be super powerful physically, so much so Ryu has to learn magic to defeat him.
My guess is ... at the time the game is developed, muay Thai is less well known. The developer kinda make up the name of all of his move. And in this case of Sagat, all of his move has the word "tiger" on its name.
We are talking about game (and this anime adaptation) that has yoga practioner able to stretch their limps, float in the air, and even breath fire. No one is expecting realism I guess.
lol i remember beating all my friends with sagat just spaming things like TIGER KNEE!!!
@@WutipongWongsakuldej when street fighter came out the Japanese already knrw about how effective muay thai was. thats why they made their nemesis Sagat. most people dont even know who Sagat is nowadays. the Japanese karate fighters knew how tough old school muay thai fighters were.
Here is another fact about Tony Jaa. Tony did fight as a Muay Thai Fighter. His record was 5-0. He decided to pursue movies because of the art of Muay Thai and Muay Boran for his country rather than just fighting against people. Tony Jaa's form is 10/10 for the movie Ong Bak.
And he earned more in movies
Are you seriously comparing someone with 5 fights (were they even pro?) vs someone who's an 8 time world champion?
I think it's a bit telling you clowns actually think a movie is real, hint it's not.
And he could save more elephants that way
@@SlayerofFictiondon’t forget, he’s actually Thai. Means he grew up with it as his national sport. Course he’s no champion, but the art is in his blood as his birth right.
@@tchoythao1730 To be clear, all Thai's are amazing kickboxers just because they are born there?
You're a very stable genius
Tony Jaa popularized Muay Thai and Muay Boran through his films.
so he is the bruce lee for muay thai?
absolutely true, whenever I see muay thai fight I remember ong bak
@@DenzhiView I am not aware of him attaching any philosophy to his martial arts. Not in public, anyway.
I agree. I started practicing Muay Thai after going through a bad breakup in 2004, where we watched Ong Bak (her recommendation) in Theaters. Of course, the guns I was checking out made it very clear that it was Muay Boran in the film. Still practicing to this day and started mixing in more of the Dutch style.
Before tony Yaa it was the JCVD movies Kickboxer and Bloodsport that popularized the sport. I mean, everybody wanted to be Tong Po back in the days kicking concrete beams.
There is also a kick called "Crocodile tail strike" (จระเข้ฟาดหาง) in Muay Thai as well. And that scene that Tony Jaa "teep" the opponent face is called "Feet Rub Face" move (บาทาลูบพักตร์)
A kick with the sole of the foot to the face is considered a severe offense. You do this on purpose to insult your opponent.
The logic behind it: in Thai culture the head is view as the vessel of one's soul, the foot - touching the ground - is dirty. So, trying to run dirt onto one's soul is disrespectful.
Well I'll call it Deez nuts
Years ago, I had the chance of attending a Muay Thai event in Bangkok. Seeing the fighters perform the Wai Khru before the fight was simply beautiful. And those kicks they were throwing at each other during the fight were vicious: they looked (and sounded) like they could kill you on the spot.
Yeah it's better not to even consider messing around with Muay Thai on their native ground, your asking to get murdered if you do.
Muay Thai is considered as a weapon in Thailand btw. If you are a fighter or practice it and use it to kill or hurt someone that can be considered as weapon.
There is a reason why the average retirement age for Muay Thai boxers is 25.
If one of those kicks land in a vital spot it probably could.
@@RovalisGTO a regular person would be in the emergency hospital my Asian friend almost killed two dudes in high school, he defended himself against those wannabe bullies, I knew it was Muay Thai because I watched tony jaa movies
FYI Tony Jaa is displaying classical Muay Boran guard stance which is more angular and more protective than sport Muay Thai's 11 guard. The Muay Boran techniques displayed here from Ong Bak all have traditional poetic names influenced by the epic myth of Ramakien which is based on the Hindu Ramayana. The teep to the face is "Bata Loopak" or "Foot Touches Face" which is also a sign of disrespect toward an opponent.
The second one where Tony jumps over Big Bear's kicking leg and knees him in the face is "Hanuman Kham Longka" or "Monkey King Crosses the city of Lanka". The late Grandmaster Sidyodtong actually makes a cameo here and utters the technique out loud.
Lastly, the jumping double knee and double elbow is called "Chuey Khang" or "Chuck the Chin" movement.
Also "Kickboxer" is an iconic JCVD movie, but really deserves a 2/10 instead of a 4 for a lot of inaccuracies. I doubt the general audience would not be too keen on them but a seasoned person already in the know about Muay Thai would definitely have a field day. For one, old style boxers do not dip their kaad chuek or hand rope wrappings in giant chunks of broken glass but finely ground bits for the abrasion. To name some others, there's a scene where Van Damme is training against a hard palm tree not a banana tree which boxers actually use in lieu of a heavy bag. Banana trees have a fleshy plant-like stem, not wood. This makes them suitable for hitting without damage to the shins. And lastly, except for a few scenes, Van Damme is mostly throwing karate-style kicks throughout the entire movie when he's supposed to be using Thai-style kicks.
Yup.....most people watching this sort of stuff would have seen Buakaw murder that poor banana tree by now lol
His style is Muay Surin. Look it up and it's already been documented by Antonio Graceffo
@@Katcom111
Yea he coined it "muay Surin" because that's the name of the place where Jaa is from. But it's a little akin to saying "muay Bangkok" if it came from Bangkok. Through and through it's just muay Boran that Jaa is practicing and displaying. Historically speaking "muay Boran" comes from the same roots as other systems like pradal Serey and lethwei and is the umbrella term to cover all of the major regional flavors of Korat, Chaiya. Lopburi and Thasao. You can even throw Krabi Krabong into there as it is a type of muay Boran. In Tony's second movie, however, he came up with "muay Kotchasarn" or Elephant Boxing style which was brilliantly portrayed and totally fictitious lol.
If the mora thai stance is more protective, why doesn't thai fighters that won world championships use it?
Yup. As far as I know, Van Damme is a practitioner of Karate.
Tony Jaa was 10/10 back those days
Funfact : Muay Boran is a style developed to defend the elephant of the king when enemy try to cut elephant foot.. 4 elite soldiers protect the elephant with the classic 2 sword. when they lose the swords they use muay BORAN There are many dangerous techniques such as breaking joints, and takedown.
Really nice straight forward breakdown, by someone who obviously knows their stuff. Always good to hear a professional at the top of their game just talking shop.
She's talking sport. Martial arts wasn't a sport, we made it into a sport
She doesn’t. Know one who knows MA or kinetics would say a kick starts from the opposite side. It’s natural resistance from a hard body, I.e. the ground
As soon as I saw Miriam in the thumbnail for the video rating movie fight scenes I had to click and watch, good job on getting one of the most respectable Muay Thai fighters to rate videos for you, one of my idols lol
I love how she reflected the respect due to their ceremonial practices...can tell she really honours the sport
Yeah, I noticed that as well and I think she spoke really well about it.
She left her boyfriend because he lost a fight
@@LuisRios-bf9vn Really? Sound unlikely!
@@morelenmir look her up on the Joe Rogan podcast and you will also find more videos of it. It's really sad how she think of man
@@LuisRios-bf9vn no, i looked it up and it wasn't for that reason.
"This kick is awesome I need to learn that"
"I have to rate this high because it's Tony Jaa"
I LOVE it when the expert loves what they do.
"I have to rate this high because it's Tony Jaa"
Based on this statement and her criticisms of Jaa's technique, I get the impression she probably wanted to rate it lower but knew the comments section would come after her
The og Ong Bak still has to be the best martial arts film in history….and that comes with NO disrespect to Bruce Lee who is the GOAT without question
Over The Raid?
@@youngjayo6881 bruh the raid 1&2 is soooo damn elite
Both top notch. Bruce Lee would have been proud of the results of his legacy
Ip man ong bak the protector lol
Came here to say raid
Jony Jaa really popularized Muay Thai on the world stage.
I would watch his fight scenes a dozen times and had no idea what type of fighting art he used but later learned it was Muay Thai. A legend!
Jony Jaa is a dope name
You millennials funny
@@db-hj9cu That's funny, man.
It’s always been popular in Europe. There’s Muay Thai events every weekend, it’s only just really becoming popular in the USA now. One championship just did an American prime time show so hopefully it’ll gain the popularity it deserves.
Is muay boran kinda muay thai but use for war in ancien time
There's just something so efficient and purely destructive about good Muay Thai. Loved this. Loved her analysis
always been my favorite martial art. in the early days of ufc kickboxers were cleaning house
It's a truly brutal martial art.
It's the antidote to the "rhythmic dancing" arts seen in many Chinese films....
@@edwardfletcher7790 And yet what distinguishes Thai boxers who are just average from the really good ones is command of rhythm, distance and timing. The thing that makes Buakaw so terrifying is the way he keeps his own timing and rhythm, moves it around like jazz, and makes the other guy conform to it.
@@toddellner Not really my point. I'm referring to the terrible Chinese Opera style arm waving crap.
I think Muay Thai fighters are better simply because of the style & their absolute dedication to perfection.
@@edwardfletcher7790 Ah, that makes sense.
Thanks for the breakdown. Awe-inspiring to see that you persevered in Muay Thai for so long and becoming a seasoned World Champion.
My friend broke his arm blocking a Muay Thai round kick without thinking during training and the kick was only thrown at half power. Oh the memories lol.
so are people just not supposed to block & take it to the face?
@@cheesypuffs1342 Use cover or shield your head with your arms, very similiar to western boxing to soften the blow and protect the head. Usually round kicks have less power to the head than kicks to the body and legs, or just evade the kick all together if possible. Lol
I forgot to mention you can shield and cover at the same time if your not sure where the kick is going to land.
Ouch
That was one of my gripes about the scene with Tony Jaa and Paul Walker. In close quarters, covering with your forearm is better than getting kicked in the head. Her critiques strictly comes from Muay Thai in the ring with a lot of space.
Tony Jaa does Muay Boran, which is the ancient combat martial arts used in battle which was then sporterized into modern Muay Thai. There is some correlation but there will be lots of moves in Boran not used in Muay Thai.
My friend is an instructor in Muay Boran. He taught me the differences and a few unique techniques.
Your wrong tony jaa does all the styles of. Muay thai....every movie he ever made shows a diffrent style of muay thai
@@eliseoreyes1858 No you're half right half wrong lol.. I'm sure Tony Jaa knows Muay Thai, but in Movies he mostly uses Muay Boran. It's more flashy and cooler for movies. I don't see any moves like Samart or Saechai in movies.. Unless you're trying to accurately portray Muay Thai.
In Tony Jaa movies its probably like 70% Muay Boran and 30% Muay Thai.
@@eliseoreyes1858 so... where did muay thai come from if not from the original martial art... and even she says it's Boran in the analysis... are you one of those people that just has to say something even if it's wrong?
@@FlyingTigersKMT yee yee exactly right hit it right on the money
@@eliseoreyes1858 lol bravo
7:39 "I've never heard of a Tiger Knee. It's just a knee buddy."
Sagat is over 7 feet tall with a knee the size of most people's torso. That and having the ability to kick through boulders qualify it as a Tiger Knee lol
Thank you. I was shocked she'd never heard of a Tiger Knee. Paused the video and went to the comments lol. Absolutely shocked.
@@UmzGames As far as my brief research goes, the tiger knee only exists in Street Fighter, so… as assumed the two decade professional is correct.
@@mhm1767 obviously, the humour missed you. Street Fighter first released in 1987, Sagat and his Tiger Knee since 91- 3 decades, to her 2. Thank you kindly.
Being that she was busy training to be champion instead of playing games, like Umz Games obviously was, it's that shocking, it's humour lol
Disappointed they did not mention Tiger Uppercut.
When you see Tony Jaa in movies .It not muaythai style for sport. You heard her talk about "muaythai boran"(for kill in war) In thai have muaythai boran 5 style
- muay chaiya(south)
- muay lopburey(central region)
- muay taa-saou(North)
- muay korat (Northeast)
- muay pa-la-sig-sa (capital)
Tony Jaa uses muay korat style (his hometown) it has a wider range than other tyres.
Well come to Thailand.
wow
I remember when I first saw Ong Bak, in 2004 (I guess, idk exactly), It was absolutely insane, like nothing I've seen before, I knew nothing about it and it had that "'jaw dropping" effect on me... in fact, even nowadays I don't think there's something better out there in terms of "fighting movies", he really set a new standard.
What I liked more than the fights was that the protagonist was actively trying to avoid fighting. Got tired of those films where the protagonist is a "pacifist" who, at the first inconvenience, just stands defiantly, waiting for someone to provoke him into a "justified" fight.
It was "hey! this guy actually acts as if he did not want to fight!".
The persecutions were cool, too.
@@sergiojuanmembiela6223 True. Jet Li when I saw him in Kiss of The Dragon and then later on Romeo Must Die, he was insanely fast and very grounded. It was a lot more realistic fighting than I had seen from Jet before that.
Onk-Bak 2 is also great. I love Tony Jaa's story as well. As soon as his fame was growing, he retired from movies, was gone for years, then came back and started doing films again.
The entire Final Fight in Ong Bak 2 is Tony Jaa's best work to date
Tony Jaa is literally a legend in movies. He does his own stunts and choreography. He is very skilled and trained very well so he can prolly do al the stunts he does in movies in real life. And he really knows what's he doing, so he must be rated much more.
When i first saw Ong Bak he was the one to inspire me to do Muay Thai along with real life Sagat which the Street Fighter character is based on
Yeah he is literally the guy and don't even know who the woman is talking about 😂🤣
That’s why I couldn’t believe Paul walker going toe to toe with him 😂😂😂 I know it’s a movie but dam
He's an ACTOR who ENTERTAINS people.
Turn off the movies, this is embarrassing.
@@SlayerofFiction he is not only an actor, but also trained in martial arts. sure, he probably wouldn't win a championship, but saying he is just an actor is disrespectful.
8 time muay thai champion?! 🔥🔥🔥 Thats hella badass
Ong Bak and the Protector were so dope. Tony Jaa is legendary
*I love how she doesn't try to discredit them so much and constantly uses "Not like anything I have seen before".*
*That's a good strategic disclaimer.*
I trained Muay Thai for many years. She's spot on. I learned 6 different kicks outside of the Low Kick, Round Kick, Front Kick and Head kick. there is of course the Axe kick and I learned 6 other ones from 2 different masters who came to Master Toddy's school in Vegas from Master Green that are devastating and not legal in a professional fight, but you can do them on the street. She was spot on with everything she said. She reminds me of my wife who is also a Muay Thai fighter and Southpaw boxer. Excellent video!
She is a champ
Was that ronnie green? He and his son was my first coach if it is 🙏🏻
Muay Thai aspect then yes but muay boran is an ancient fighting style
I worked in Bangkok for 5 years from 2000-2005 and watched Ong Bak at the cinema in Thailand when it came out 2003 about 2-3 years before being released in UK, straight away I knew this would turn Jaa Phanom, aka Mr Tony Jaa from Surin into a mega star……. Mauy Thai Boran
I was in Muay Thai for 15 years or so. We used shinai swords to condition our shins a lot. I’d forgotten about a lot of little things. Fun to watch. Like curling the hand in when she shows elbows… broke my back and had to stop. The skip kick was a favorite of mine.
Is your back ok now?
we used rattan escrimas.....fun times! ah the good ol days.
What was the name of the gym I wa t to find out who is doing that to people's shins
@@VeraxMusic not really. Kinda changed my life. I spent my 30’s at home. Still in pain every day but I’m moving around and stuff. So it got better after 10 years of not changing. It sucks but I’m grateful it’s better than it was now. Thanks for asking.
@@Meckaneckk no gym. Where we did the first several years closed down years ago now. We did it to ourselves. My brother and I. Lol. I’d never have done that to any students. That’s just about the dumbest thing anyone could do in the states. Lol
I'm from Philippines and I am not familiar with Muay Thai until I meet Tonay Jaa in Ongback. He's really a legend.
You met Tony Jaa in Ong-Bak? Nice. How did the meeting went?
@@RandalReid I mean I meet him in his movie and in hollywood. He's truly amazing.
@@reksgavriel5351 You met him in Hollywood? Cool.
Napanood kasi, hindi nameet.
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Mad props to this lady for participating (and WINNING) in such a brutal sport for twenty years!
"I'm just here for that outfit" -- said every Power Rangers actor and every Power Rangers fan in the entire 30 year history of Power Rangers!
One of the power rangers even killed a dude in real life, with a sword!
@J L Go, go Power Rangers…
With how cheesy Power Rangers have always been, I’m surprised they even considered showing a fight from it. Even in the fight shown, she probably wasn’t even intentionally trying to do a Muay Thai move. Lol
@J L I'm still scratching my head into why they're even including this. It's been a min but I could've sworn this season was Kung Fu Based lol
@@antman9259 You're not wrong but he was a moron it was a "Muay Thai" fighter While everyone else did Kung Fu even in the Japanese version. (which is very funny) when he transforms he puts on traditional muay thai uniform (then through the magic of special effects) that becomes his costume. Look up geki-violet.
Some of Thai words in this video
Teep = ถีบ = Using the flat of your feet to punt something. Same word is used for when you ride a bicycle
Boran = โบราณ = Ancient/old. Muay Boran basically just means old style boxing
Mongkhon = มงคล = A headgear, there are a lots of tradition and ritualistic aspect to muay thai and this part of them. Interstingly มงคล also mean auspicious in normal day-to-day usage.
Wai Khru = ไหว้ครู = Traditional ritual of venerating your teacher/school before the match. ไหว้ is a thai version of indian greeting. ครู/Khru means teacher, cognate with of the word Guru.
Rum muay = รำมวย = literally means boxing dance
Not an expert on the field so forgive me if I get something wrong.
Some of the words like Boran and Rum/Rom are derived from the Old Khmer words
@@Katcom111 Going even further, from Sanskrit. Like Khru --> Guru, and Boran --> Puran (same meaning: old).
@@RB-fp8hn Yes Thai inherited a lot from Indian and Buddhism, the king who developed Thai alphabet base most of them from Sanskrit
LOVE the fact that Muay Thai is getting the love that it deserve. Ong Bak is the GOAT!
I love her indepth explanations, and also her reactions to the Van Damme film! 😂
VAN DAMME using karate style when he kick.
"Tenderizing the meat (with your knee)" - Oh my, I'm about to fall in love with this badass woman! 😄
Yeah she got my heart with that one too .
Good. I like that she showed respect to tony JAA. That guy is actually a force to be reckoned with outside films
For those that don't know, Miriam is an absolute legend!
She definitely is but the number of Ong Bak fanboys who are talking smack about her just because she criticized the realism in Ong Bak is ridiculous....there will always be these dummies who can't separate movies from reality when it comes to martial arts....it's the one thing where for some stupid reason the average Joe still believes that what they see on screen is real and then they'll get mad when an actual professional fighters tells them it's not
@@cyborgchicken3502 it's probably because I'm late but i haven't seen any butthurt fanboys, at least not here
@@cyborgchicken3502 To be fair she is talking quite a bit of nonsense in this clip. I put it down to the different style of Muay Thai that is likely being taught in the US.
One example is at 10:45 - 11:05, she says you don't do that, even though it is very common to see. In the video "Rodtang's Dangerous Muay Thai Style", you may see Rodtang (one of the best Muay Thai fighters in Thailand) perform this multiple times. Just after the 7 minute mark or at 11:22 are two examples. Guard down during a Muay Thai fight in front of a fighter at close (elbow) range, dishing out hooks.
Ramon Dekkers is another fighter that very often did that. Again there is a video on yt: "The Very Best of Ramon Dekkers (Knockouts/Highlights) | Muay Thai" that shows him within the first minute do it multiple times. 0:25 through 0:32 for example. 0:30 to 0:32 also show him standing low in front of his opponent whilst finishing him, something she says you don't do in Muay Thai (standing low).
Both of those fighter's footages (especially the 0:25 to 0:32 from Dekkers) are also contrary to what she says at 6:07. Odd that she doesn't remember this very common technique called "hook".
The shown film footage of the hooks by Tony Jaa look rather like wild arm swings instead of a controlled hook, though. It is a movie after all.
If you scroll down a bit further you'll see a few
@@muppet5760 i see your point of view but I suppose in her case she's talking about it from her own experiences and her own style of fighting, every Muay Thai fighter has a different way of using the art in a professional fight, it doesn't mean she's talking nonsense though, mind you she both competed and trained in Thailand during her 14 fight run as a Muay Thai champ, so it's possible that whatever school she trained at didn't implement those techniques you mentioned, or perhaps she just didn't include them in her style of fighting, the fact that she won all 14 bouts in her career with no losses and has been training in Muay Thai for over 20 years is proof enough that she knows what she's talking about at least based on her own experiences, maybe she's wrong in saying that it's absolutely never used, you've just provided examples that there are cases of such techniques being used but I don't think it discredits her opinion and her experience in any way...she's got the fight record and skill to prove that she knows what she's talking about....also Tony Jaa isn't a professional fighter, he's an actor and has trained in Muay Boran which is the more ancient style of Muay Thai
It was cool cool to see a breakdown from someone so passionate about the sport. Muy Thai is honestly beast 🔥💪🏾
Very impressive. As a Thai, to see foreigners has true knowledge in Muay Thai and Muay Boran more than average Thais and use the terms so correctly. Especially the comments!
It's so different from Thai food videos, where most of the clip and comments usually go wrong.
I studied the original Muay Thai, we had bamboo sticks in the gym for shin conditioning, as we advanced in training the aim was to one day break the bamboo with our shin, I accomplished not just that but the ability to kick metal, I have 5 wins from low kicks alone. Muay Thai is the perfect street Martial Art if the practitioner can use it well. I can transition easily to effective moves, that is what helped me win fights. If you try grabbing me you get a knee or an elbow. We even have an elbow done when an opponent grabs your wrist, you just tuck in the wrist while lifting the elbow over to the opponents head, or pull down your wrist, bringing the opponents head to a knee or spinning elbow. Today I am a referee with the kickboxing federation. Van Damme's kick in Blood Sport was a karate kick, he was doing a flick kick most of the time, which is an incomplete kick in Muay Thai, where your hip or pelvis has to be in the kick, it is a total transfer of bodyweight into the kick which can send you into a spin if you miss.
What are the chances of winning with hard leg kicks in mma on the top professionals,
Are people so conditioned that it wont affect them ?
@@henryhoover3953 Chances are very high if the athlete is smart enough with the leg kicks. Edson Barboza and Pat Barry have done it multiple times. In Jose Aldo vs Uriah Faber, Jose seriously messed up Uriah's legs
I love the selection for this. I was not expecting Street Fighter and... Power Rangers. I loved that she still gave us knowledge even when it was something silly, instead of just being like 'that's wrong and dumb.'
In most of these type vids I've seen (not many) the experts are good about it. Pretty sure they have some that do the "that just dumb" and not explain why. But mostly respected the experts they find.
Street Fighter was one thing but POWER RANGERS!!! Maaaannn come on, why include this lmao 🤣
I always find differences between martial arts fascinating. Like how she said in Muay Thai, you shouldn’t point your toes when kicking.
I took karate for 10 years and we ALWAYS pointed our toes. Because in karate, you kick with your foot rather than your shin, and kicking without curling or pointing your toes can cause you to break them.
Just found that interesting.
It's called a Tiger Knee because it's from a video game that entered production around 1988. Everything Sagat does is Tiger whatever, even the fireballs. It's his thing. Her head might have exploded if she saw a Tiger Uppercut.
Tiger shot
Tiger knee
Tiger uppercut
Tiger rampage
Can't believe Sagat got 0/10 XD Tiger Trash
Didn't see that cartoon. Actually Tiger Knee from the videogame is... Like majority of special moves in Street fighter, the question is: if someone is given the power to break laws of physics and do it, can anyone defend against it? how would the woman in the video prepare for a fight with an opponent blessed by the gods with the tiger knee or tiger uppercut working exactly as they do in the videogame?
@@BlackestEyes709 Don't forget his signature super, Tiger Genocide. But if a 7'4" Thai Fighter wants to knee your chest in, he can call it whatever he wants.
Based off an actual muy Thai fighter from 70s to late 80s. He runs tiger muy Thai gym in Thai land
@@bigjayabc Sagat Petchyindee.
the Ong Bak fight stance was the Boran stance as she said... it's the precursor to Muay Thai. :) great video!
I have been training WT for 2 years and 5 years on and off of Krav Maga. We had a couple of Muay Thai trainers visit from Thailand before the covid thing and had a sparring session with them.. I have never, in those 7 years, have my wind knocked out of me on the level that he did when he got close to me.. I had a good hold until i got an elbow to my jaw and a kick to my ribs right after. Lets just say i sat down for a second.
it’s one of my old coaches from sityodtong! good man 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
Muay boran (Tony used) has a low stance in order to defend take down. Muay boran came from battle fields. People only needed to strike, defend, and take down. Muay boran has many joint locks and take downs but 0 submission and ground fight. Why? Back in old wars, if you got thrown to the ground, you'd get stomped or ran over or stabbed with any objects then died. No need to do arm bar or other submission. (Even in real fight today, once you throw a person with Judo or Wrestling or whatsoever, you can very well smack the dude with a rock or any hard object, or stomp his head "IF" you aint afraid of lawsuits after for killing the person. No ground fighting needed to win a fight). Anyways thays why Tony's stance or Muay borna stance is low.
Muay thai stance tosay is standing tall to strike fast and hard and also because it doesn't have take downs, so you don't need to lower your body for extra balance.
There isn't any record that Muay Boran unarmed striking was used in warfare. Most likely swords, spears and pikes. When musket guns and cannons was introduced in the 15th century in southeast asia. It is no use to fight unarmed.
@@Katcom111 Muay is not the main fighting way but for when you lost your weapon or using along your weapon. And Battle in that time less warrior gain access to armor.
Imagine fighting against warior that expert in his weapon and muay. You could be kicked or punch along the fight no need to use muay with bare hand. When you are too focus on weapon fighting and got lower kick as surprise then he gain advantage for sure. There are no rule in battlefield to use your weapon in hand and switch to Muay only when you lost weapon.
The damage from kicke might not break your bone but your muscle will be damaged and that pain af. Once you can't keep moving you are dead meat in battlefield. That why they always said that design to take life in battlefield. Muay thai give you an advantage in fighting.
@@Katcom111 umm achshually *nerd emoji intensifies*
yeah, she literally said that in the video.
So I’m guessing she didn’t watch Ong Bak, because she said she wouldn’t get that low, but Tony Ja only got that low on that occasion because his opponent was on the ground, so he closed in to check if the fight was over while maintaining a defensive stance
Exactly
FACTS 💯
Bruh she is going on what she is shown.
@@dentyph5169 I didn’t meant to diss her, I was just giving my input on that scene
@@dentyph5169 they should watch the shows if they're going to comment on them -- its not like Ong Bak is not known
He retired, became a monk, right when his career was taking off, then after a few years went back to making movies, only to find that the industry had changed to a more streaming focused environment. He was in Monster Hunter, which is way better than people give it credit. He also did Jiu Jitsu with Nicolas Cage. He is going to be in The Expendables 4 next year.
Hope the man has the same comeback as Ke Huy Quan did. Tony's a legend.
Should check out SPL II: A Time for Consequences / Killzone 2
Monster Hunter was garbage. No doubt.
Monster hunter was garbage that pleased no one lol. Didn't please martial arts movie enthusiasts or fans of the game.
As an an eleven yaers long true fan of MH. I want to reject but I can't, lmao. That movie is an absolute garbage and a disgrace to the whole of MH series.
the way that Tony Ja hook the punch@06:00 is a punch technique from Mauy Korat (one of Mauy Boran) . It called " mud- kwang- kway" ( หมัดขว้างควาย).
Love your video, krab.
"So that was very, very, very realistic"
"That, no. That's not Muay Thai."
I couldn't help but laugh at that.
If you grab an arm and do it with the arm included you literally have a flying triangle choke I think a lot of Martial artists under estimate what is possible just because it is not optimal. a frankensteiner is a totally legitimate martial arts manoeuvre it's just not a very good one but if that is all the situation presents you with that's what you going to do I think a lot of the problem with martial artist is they don't fight in real-world circumstances play the fight for sport which is not real you don't have a referee in real life nobody there to break up the fight if it gets too bad work course they don't know what they're doing and they just train and I couldn't use it in a real situation anyway I have used manoeuvres nobody would ever told me to use simply because the opportunity presents itself martial arts can be very rigid for some reason optimisation you should take a back seat 2 opportunity plus if you grab somebody by the genitals and left you can easily get some really good fight because they don't know how to counter lifts and it's really funny.
at 5:05, the low stance is mostly for defensive, and counter into legs' joints. It is also true that in Ong Bak they would change the stance to look cool
I guess I'm going to have to watch Raya. I liked the fight scene, but I didn't realize it was actually pretty accurate.
You may not because all you see in this video is all hand to hand combat in the movie
It's not accurate. She just liked it because they were women.
@@ty194 Well, she gave Tony Jaa a higher score. No women in that fight.
@@EugWanker Yet still named Raya as her pick. Make that make sense.
Van Damme comes from shotokan Karate. The reason why we “fold” the foot away from the shin during a roundhouse kick (she calls it pointing your toes) is simply to avoid a multiple fracture to your toes if the top of your toes hit your target (think his shoulder or elbow) when you hit.
For example, imagine if Leon Edwards toes had hit Kumaru Usman instead of his shin. He would have broken his on toes on the spot and lost the fight.
So some fighting styles sacrifice a bit of energy on that kick to remove the risk of breaking your toes. Unless you’re wearing shoes of course, then it’s ok.
This lady’s hit by the way. And 23 years of fighting? How old is she?
In a competition you actually do not do that, you hit with the flat side of the foot, and have the toes like a Muay Thai fighter.
In "a real fight" you flex the tows and hit with the toes (the ball of the foot behind the toes). Because that makes the target area smaller, especially when you want to hit a pressure point. And if you aim for the head: you easy hit behind the block, if there is a block.
According to wikipedia, about 45 at the time of the video
Oh nooo!!! You didn't have any scenes from The Protector! That fight scene with Tony Jaa Vs Lateef Crowder was one of the BEST fights I've ever seen in a movie! Nooo! Run that back with The Protector! 😆
Every time I kick through my computer monitor, I do it WAY different.
Tony Jaa is perfection. Bro has Muay Thai down to its core. Love his movies
As a Muay Thai fighter myself, i agree with most of what she is saying. Best advice to do is to not get into a fight with people, just try to avoid confrontation as much as possible.
as someone whose fought in muay boran and muay thai for about the same amount of time she really knows her stuff and was a blast to watch, her points were fantastic.
The champion: "Conditioning youre shins is vital in Muai thai"
The college stoner with a scooter since he was a kid: *I am invincible*
"It is absolutely effective to knee someone in the body."
Yeah, I kinda of suspected that...
Impressed with the concise commentary....
"I'm not trying to be limping around with a messed up foot for the rest of that fight!" I love it.
Yessss this was so insightful and badass. Totally here for this!
8 TIMES world CHAMPION !!!
damn girl u r a GODDESS !!
I've randomly been watching these and I love it.
Ong Bak is legend, period..
“Standing…grappling.” She’s like, “These people will not understand the clinch.”
My first exposure to Muay Thai was Street Fighter 2. I didn't know what Sagat was fighting with but it's the closest thing I saw to Muay Thai. Then the next was Tekken 2 with Bruce Irving. I thought it looked pretty cool but again had no idea what it was. Then I saw it more in the UFC and over the course of a few years, I saw Ong Bak and so on and so forth and now I know what it is.
You probably already know but Street fighter Sagat is actually based off a real Muay Thai fighter. Sagat Petchyindee who was a monster in the ring.
@@hmngvaj9723 Actually I had no idea. Thanks for sharing your knowledge with me :)
Dhanyavaad!
@@hmngvaj9723 Just about to write that
i can totally see where she's coming from but i also understand the traditional fighting style from ong bak which i would say is as useful or wouldnt stray far from the modern techniques of muay thai. most modern style martial arts dont go high or uses a more simple techniques to fight because most fighters nowadays are restricted by their physicality. So yeah, i'd say i agree with her but also with Tony. XD
Thank you for your feedback on these movies! Love Tony Jaa and he was the influence for me to learn Thai.
Only learned it for 1yr but would love to get back into it. And with that Fast/ Furious movie, I'm sorry but Paul Walker against Jaa wasn't that believable because Jaa would have taken him out in one or two hits!
Paul was actually doing a lot of BJJ but yes, Jaa would take him out.
no he would't. Paul had the plot armor.
@@szcxp2166 Paul didn’t his character did.
Exactly what me and my brother said😂😂😂🤗
Miriam is the best! Such a nice person, and legit as they come! It's a shame that some of her analysis surely had to get cut out because of time restraints.
I don't know she said some things that made me lose respect but she's one of the better ones on this channel
i want to see her vs senchai
@@last7509 I'm sure she would agree that Saenchai would destroy her, with all due respect to her of course, but it's apples to oranges to begin with.
@@enbo98 i still want to see it
She's definitely not a nice person lmao.
The reason why Muay Thai is so effective for fighting is because it was originally designed to take life in battle field in the past.
Yes, but it's Muay Boran that is the original martial art for self-defense or lethal offense. Muay Thai is developed during the 1900s with regulations and restrictions to make the said martial art a viable competitive sport.
any viable martial art is effective for fighting. boxing, kickboxing a few types of wrestling, bjj, certain types of karate, sambo, some parts of taekwondo, some parts of judo. thats why mma is a thing, i do agree tho if you're solely gonna learn one style muay thai is a great idea especially if u got a good gym
It's highly valuable the wisdom and advise of an expert of the field!
Thanks for sharing. I love breakdowns of fight scenes. I do it myself. Not to say I am any form of martial arts expert. But I like to watch, rewatch, slow down, and see what attacks are being used, reactions, figure out the move's intention and things that could have gone better. I never looked closely at Muay Thai. This was very educational for me. I draw comics and maybe one day, I'll have a Muay Thai fighter.
"Tony Jaa" - my childhood action hero ❤️❤️❤️
The original Muay Thai is a style that go for the kills which mostly aimed at critical part of the body like the head/neck or chest especially the heart.
The Muay Thai have gone through a lot of changes to be accepted in the tournament fight to avoid serious injuries. All true Muay Thai fighters that was taught in Thailand would know the history of it.
Kicking of the banana tree is one of the old training that was used in the past to stronger the bone. Some fighter in the past generation would break their bone during training to have much stronger and hard bone regrown over n over again.
I know all this thanks to my mother who is a thai and have been taught by cousin.
Very correct aboht kicking banana trees and breaking the bones part. Please check out Nai khanom tom. Hes our folklore hero that used muay boran to fight off invaders ;)
The neck I get, but you're not allowed to aim for the head or the heart? What do you mean by that? Not MT?
@@trakkaton I'm sure if you've looked up Muay Thai, it was never a sport but a form of combat. Like OP mentioned, true Muay Thai was meant to be lethal by nature: either straight up kill or incapacitate them.
In combat SPORTS there are certain restrictions to striking the head. I believe true Muay Thai elbow strikes were intended to break the skull, which is clearly not permitted in a sporting capacity. In regards to the heart, if we can make a heart pump with enough force via CPR, it stands to reason you can make a heart stop with enough force and precision.
As a lethal form of combat, head, neck and heart is the go to.
@@L00N101 There are no succesful knock outs by hitting the sternum in MMA even though it's not forbidden. There are no elbows taht crack the skull in MMA even though elbows are not forbidden. Can you apply logic?
@@trakkaton the moves are not meant to be one hit KO's, they're meant to be used multiple times to incapacitate the opponent.
There's just something in the way that Miriam explains fighting concepts that brings such clarity. You can tell her expertise by her observations, her choice of words, and her laid-back confidence -- SO great to see, and I felt like this explainer, in particular because of all of this, was so easy to follow (for me, which says a lot lol) -- well done!
i scrolled the comments and they're all saying Tony Jaa does Boran so I assumed the expert didn't mention it. But she literally says in the video "I guess that's Boran" lol
Regarding Bloodsport and it's inaccuracies: I'm pretty sure Frank Dux was the "techincal consultant" on that movie, since it was supposed to be about his life. Frank Dux was also a pathological liar and made the whole story up. He also said that he was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor when he was in the Army in Vietnam, but in the picture of him wearing it, he's wearing the Air Force variant. When questioned about it, he said that they couldn't keep up with demand, so they had to give him that one in the meantime. Also, he was never in Vietnam
Yep... Deeply disillusioned when all the insane bollocks that Dux invented came out. When you think back on what he claimed I am astonished anyone ever believed it--myself included! But.. It was Ninja stuff and it is impossible to say how cool ninja stuff was in the mid to late eighties. We actively _wanted_ to believe. I think that made all the difference. And then a Segal came along and did pretty much the same thing!
Although I think those particular clips came from 'Kickboxer', which came out the year after 'Bloodsport'. But they were both JVD's biggest films, or at least they were what put him on the map.
@@morelenmir It seemed like every evil businessman had his own island and ninja in the 80's. Why did that ever go out of fashion? If Jeffrey Epstein had ninjas on his island instead of children, he'd prolly be alive today
Not saying you're wrong but she's discussing Kickboxer not bloodsport lol
Champion Nakamoto is absolutely correct about shins vs forearm. Her truth also applies in Tae Kwon Do , you have a lot of roundhouses coming at you and you will destroy your forearms if you depend on them against mid level or high kicks .
I mean, cant you condition your forearms like you can your shins? Or is it just that its not very useful outside of forearm blocks so there isnt really a reason to do it? I know in her style the shins are basically shield and sword so it makes sense to focus so much on them.
@@chrishubbard64 The shin bone is thicker and is much closer to the skin in the leg so that specific area hardens/toughens with repeated trauma over time. Practical utility demands that you will have to use your forearms from time to time , but the areas that are kicked will primarily do damage to the muscles surrounding the bone . Sure block with those areas when you need to, but don't make it a habit to counter/check a shin with your forearm a majority of the time.
Great questions BTW
of course its more ideal to move out of the way. but in ufc, guys block roundhouse with their forearm on the daily. you can find 1000 videos right now
@@last7509 guys in MMA also don't kick as hard as nak muays. The MMA stance is generally wider too which makes checking harder
It’s good to see Miriam again
I love how she moves she is Insane
reviews like these are awesome and we know that they are professionals of their craft. the problem with these kinds of reviews is that it only focuses on tournament kind of fights. and they are reviewing street fights. the thing with street fights is that there are no rules so even if you are, let's say a muay thai trainee, youll throw wild punches and be in an awkward or different stance sometimes because your opponent does not have rules
Aww man, I was hoping to see Paco vs Frank Dux in Bloodsport. Can never have too much JCVD!
I come from Thailand.I have ever seen. You are a foreigner a deepest understanding of Muay Thai that.
I remember this lady. She was on Joe Rogan telling how it's disgusted her boyfriend lost a fight and she broke it off.
Exactly, she is crazy
That's all I remember her for. Watching this was hard because of her comments and her delivery in this video reminded me of her attitude on Rogan.
She's a good fighter but a terrible woman to date. Stay away from women like this, they lose attraction easily and are dead insidw
What you see in Muay Thai (sport, tv, movies) is half of its original form, the original Muay Thai (Muay thai Boran, well known in the west Tony Jaa) which is training for barehanded combat during the wars (swords and shields barehanded barefoot), It's training to kill.
My dad is from the middle eastern part of Thailand and told me that they kick banana trees in order to train their shin to be tough. Like you literally break part of your shin and the bone will grow making your bone structure change a bit and become tougher. They punched tires to make the knuckle rough too. I don't know it's from the traditional boxing or it's a training regimen for most like OG training type.
Cool video and Buakaw Banchamek is one of the best, do one of his video will be awesome