Civic owner here- So what happened was the CVT didn't actually overheated but instead I failed to open the valve on the exhaust on the second run which causes the exhaust to throw smoke when I reopened it and we thought something was wrong with the turbo seal or was running lean, that's why we didn't do anymore runs, also I keep seeing people saying that the cvt won't last the cvt is trash, but I've done TONS of race's with this car literally tons and surprising even for me the transmission is holding up well, also another thing alot of people don't know is that this is the civic touring sedan and it has the SI motor with stronger internals, the civic hatchbacks have weaker internals than the sedan touring which is very weird but it's true, you can check civicx for more info on it. So maybe that's why mines still holding up, oh one last thing depending on how you play with the throttle the cvt can be faster or slower. You need to play with it enough to figure it out. And the car keeps surprising me too. Anyway that's all for now, if you wanna know more just hit me up on IG. ✌
I've heard about this touring sedan having stronger internals but I doubt it before but I guess it's true since most of the cvt that blown are hatchbacks...as to why honda would do this puzzles me
Great car, man. I believe that I heard that you have a 27Won turbo. That true? Also, what other mods (other than the tune)? Anyway, anyone who claims that the Civic's CVT is trash is a clown who lacks knowledge. They're holding on to the outdated notion that CVTs are bad. Nissan had terrible CVTs (and may still). However, Honda and Toyota make some of the world's most reliable cars, and they have been using quality CVTs for quite some time.
@@josevince2424 I did hear that - at least in reference to the rods. However, sounds like OP is stating that there may be more components that are weaker in the hatch. If you don't want to mod heavily, I wouldn't be concerned. However, if you do, maybe consider a coupe or sedan.
What's the secret on the throttle thing to make it faster bro?I have a civic too but hatchback and never heard of the weaker internals thing, glad u put that out there
I want to see some Honda Accord 2.0 tuned races! Getting ready to tune mine so would like to see what that will be like up against other cars like this.
Great video like always but isn't this an unfair comparison 😅. 1.5 is tuned vs non tuned. The 2.0 10 speed is pretty damn quick. I would love to see this 1.5 come back vs a tuned 2.0 10 speed. That would be an awesome race
WTF The civic trap 172km 😲😲😲 and it seem like it hit the redline too which cuts power a bit, so that means it can trap even higher with a good run, Damn impressive for that little tiny 1.5
Well it isn’t drastic but I did FBO Ford Focus sedan. You can check on my page. Those things move fbo. If you get good work done it’s good. Those accords move.
The cvt is quicker than a 10 speed because it has no gears but its limited to how much torque you can put on it. This tranny may not last long unfortunately.
People don't realize that regardless of the civic being a cvt.... any car with an automatic tranny will blow up sooner or later with twice the power going through it.
How much did it cost to get 300 BHP out of the 1.5 liter? Also factor in the cost of a new CVT, because that one is going to be slipping within a couple years if driven hard with that much increased torque.
As much as people may hate CVT. It is here to stay. The only downside of cvt in a proper drag race is the sluggish start, but as I tested in beamng drive, cvt yields better mid high speed acceleration and ended up with higher speed in a quarter mile. Fun and fuel economy can still stand together as Honda proved, but as long as you want fuel economy, you need to make some sacrifices.
Excuse my ignorance, but is this basically a modified Civic vs a stock Accord? Not sure what this justifies... It's one thing to compare both stock models, but then I suppose the Accord would win too easily? I feel like the Accord should have been slightly modified as well since it was clearly heavier and less HP, you could probably see the result coming right from the opening specs.
The CVT models can only be tuned to a certain point before it can't handle anymore power. The manual transmission is a much better platform to use a tune with
If you have a turbocharged vehicle and you've been getting on it never turn it off right away at least let it idle for a couple minutes pop your hood if possible lol... Or drive it easy for the last couple minutes before your destination 💯👍👍
Alll those variables effect the 0-60 times of the car though. Especially slope, temperature and sea level. You get horrible numbers especially in a turbo at altitude.
CVT's just arent strong enough to handle anything above 230 lb ft consistently IMO. They are a much cheaper solution and give great mpg. For anyone that likes to drive enthusiastically the CVT is useless and for anyone that likes performance mods..... fuggedaboutit
I'm not sure but I guess the cvt of the L15BA and L15B7 are the same. You say the hatch blows and the sedan don't. You're talking about the engine or the transmission?!?
I would love to see a stock 11th gen cvt hatch and accord drag. I find my hatch accelerate much faster after taking a corner and not so much and a straight drag.
Nice race like always, hey Sam i would like to see the BMW M235i with the G70 i know that BMW doesn't have the horse power like the G70 but that BMW feel so fast my brother just bought and feel fast i think will be a good race 👍
This video really points out to me how much I appreciate a good automatic . I know that cvts are efficient but are not for me . Very quick civic by the way .
@@josevince2424 yessir. Literally got an intake so I can hear the pshh pshh, and the exhaust to make the driving experience more enjoyable. Literally just a resonator delete with valved mufflers
Thanks for another awesome race SAM I think that CIVIC is going to take it unless the ACCORD is also Tuned.L15B7 is on a totally different game with a upgraded TURBO even though it's a CVT
300cv sur une cvt de 1.5t c'est trop pour avoir une transmission qui dure un minimum dans le temps. Mais c'est sympa de voir ça. French addict to Honda.
Because magazine times are not realistic. Magazine times are done at prepped track surfaces with launches OVER AND OVER again until they get the best launch. In real life you won’t have 15 times to launch a car in a street race or drag race. This is more realistic than a mid 5 seconds
Accord 2.0t for stock performance and reliability ,looks without mods wins to me ... Civics always wanna be better than the bigger brother lol congrats to civic 4 win but thats over 100hp+ jump on a 1.5 liter engine idk man
that most garbage gearbox of the world (cvt) can't handle even 4 runs 🤣. The results were expected.. there's 50 bhp difference, also civic is @200lb lighter.
Civic owner here- So what happened was the CVT didn't actually overheated but instead I failed to open the valve on the exhaust on the second run which causes the exhaust to throw smoke when I reopened it and we thought something was wrong with the turbo seal or was running lean, that's why we didn't do anymore runs, also I keep seeing people saying that the cvt won't last the cvt is trash, but I've done TONS of race's with this car literally tons and surprising even for me the transmission is holding up well, also another thing alot of people don't know is that this is the civic touring sedan and it has the SI motor with stronger internals, the civic hatchbacks have weaker internals than the sedan touring which is very weird but it's true, you can check civicx for more info on it. So maybe that's why mines still holding up, oh one last thing depending on how you play with the throttle the cvt can be faster or slower. You need to play with it enough to figure it out. And the car keeps surprising me too. Anyway that's all for now, if you wanna know more just hit me up on IG. ✌
I've heard about this touring sedan having stronger internals but I doubt it before but I guess it's true since most of the cvt that blown are hatchbacks...as to why honda would do this puzzles me
Really? And I was looking to get the same set up as yours but now everything changes since I have a hatchback 🥺
Great car, man. I believe that I heard that you have a 27Won turbo. That true? Also, what other mods (other than the tune)? Anyway, anyone who claims that the Civic's CVT is trash is a clown who lacks knowledge. They're holding on to the outdated notion that CVTs are bad. Nissan had terrible CVTs (and may still). However, Honda and Toyota make some of the world's most reliable cars, and they have been using quality CVTs for quite some time.
@@josevince2424 I did hear that - at least in reference to the rods. However, sounds like OP is stating that there may be more components that are weaker in the hatch. If you don't want to mod heavily, I wouldn't be concerned. However, if you do, maybe consider a coupe or sedan.
What's the secret on the throttle thing to make it faster bro?I have a civic too but hatchback and never heard of the weaker internals thing, glad u put that out there
I like these guys...they go right to the point...less talking and not joking around.
I know right
I want to see some Honda Accord 2.0 tuned races! Getting ready to tune mine so would like to see what that will be like up against other cars like this.
Let us know how it goes
By now Everyone should know the civic would win, only I didn't expect such a big gap
I can't wait to see the Civic beat the Accord. Thanks Sam for always bringing us good content!!
Thank you
Don't underestimate the accord, oh wait never mind its the voodo civic
@@edwardagustin6664 tune the accord and it would be a different outcome the civic always weighs a lot less
Great video like always but isn't this an unfair comparison 😅. 1.5 is tuned vs non tuned. The 2.0 10 speed is pretty damn quick. I would love to see this 1.5 come back vs a tuned 2.0 10 speed. That would be an awesome race
Unfortunately it's not coming back:(
WTF The civic trap 172km 😲😲😲 and it seem like it hit the redline too which cuts power a bit, so that means it can trap even higher with a good run, Damn impressive for that little tiny 1.5
Mine top is 205 km/hr with the stock engine
@@thebustle2482 im talking about TRAP speed on the 1\4 mile, not Top speed, they're two completely different things
@@jannamkeeran7137 Got it Men😉
That civic is as fast as the current Civic Type R. Holy cow! impressive
try faster
Great idea for this civics next race…
@@jannamkeeran7137 Only because of the cvt vs manual shifting
Really? Holy crap!! Lol
My gf got a 2018 civic sport. Maybe this video will convince her to tune it xD
love this. the channel is getting more and more better keep up the good work
Being waiting on since, 👍👍👍 the accord owner said he has an intake and an exhaust, but that shouldn't really increase power dramatically.
Well it isn’t drastic but I did FBO Ford Focus sedan. You can check on my page. Those things move fbo. If you get good work done it’s good. Those accords move.
Damn who would have thought the lighter car that was tuned with more power would win lol.
Thanks Sam
The Civic really surprised me with the CVT and all but, the Civic pulled through against the Accord with ten speed transmission this time 😉
The cvt is quicker than a 10 speed because it has no gears but its limited to how much torque you can put on it. This tranny may not last long unfortunately.
so funny i was looking at the new civic and saw this in my recommendation list, glad I click on it.
That voodoo Civic pulled on a Type R. A stock Accord has little chance here.
Love the new music and the specs
I've never seen anyone excited about getting walked 😂😂😂😂 Man cracked me up, he was excited the civic was gapping him lol
Sam, thanks making the Spec font bigger. 👍😘
Damn, the two underdogs that's being surprising everyone is going against each, this should be interesting.
I had a tuned 2.0T 10AT accord. I’d like to see if the difference between stock and a tuned accord.
can we get sam to 100k sub for Christmas, dudes been on roll, civic does it again 🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀
Thank you!
I thought you said no more of this civic videos because it's on the channel alot, but I guess luckily for me I get to see another one lol
Sam you know what this means right? It’s time for the tuned GLI vs this tuned civic.
The type r vs the tuned civic too
People don't realize that regardless of the civic being a cvt.... any car with an automatic tranny will blow up sooner or later with twice the power going through it.
True. Just cause the CVT can PUSH 250 plus hp doesn’t mean you should
Appreciate new format. Have much catching up. Who’s complaining? Keep it up!!
Exhaust on the civic looks nice.
How much did it cost to get 300 BHP out of the 1.5 liter? Also factor in the cost of a new CVT, because that one is going to be slipping within a couple years if driven hard with that much increased torque.
I wonder how much of a difference there is between the Accord 2.0T and Mazda 3 Turbo :)
I love that you added the draggy to the mix! Are you going to do that with all the races moving forward?
Not anymore. Not enough time and certainly not really the best place for dragy times
Great race!! Congrats for Draggy stats!! 👏👏👏👏👏
The civic need a run with the type s
Watching people race with an automatic is like drinking decaf coffee.
Some people like the taste, without the adrenaline rush
@@ELP1125 fair enough. Cvt did surprise the crap outta me
As much as people may hate CVT. It is here to stay.
The only downside of cvt in a proper drag race is the sluggish start, but as I tested in beamng drive, cvt yields better mid high speed acceleration and ended up with higher speed in a quarter mile.
Fun and fuel economy can still stand together as Honda proved, but as long as you want fuel economy, you need to make some sacrifices.
Excuse my ignorance, but is this basically a modified Civic vs a stock Accord? Not sure what this justifies... It's one thing to compare both stock models, but then I suppose the Accord would win too easily? I feel like the Accord should have been slightly modified as well since it was clearly heavier and less HP, you could probably see the result coming right from the opening specs.
The accord is getting smoked 😂
Came here to bash on the cvt but left humbled.
The CVT models can only be tuned to a certain point before it can't handle anymore power. The manual transmission is a much better platform to use a tune with
With that level of torque that cvt is giving. It will break for sure one day
If you have a turbocharged vehicle and you've been getting on it never turn it off right away at least let it idle for a couple minutes pop your hood if possible lol... Or drive it easy for the last couple minutes before your destination 💯👍👍
Draggy is useless tbh, there's so many variables that will give you different times- weather, the wind, the sea level, the slope etc
Thank you, couldn’t agree more!
Plus traction too
well thats how it always is no??
@@mustangraf exactly. It’s beyond me how anyone could say it’s useless.
Alll those variables effect the 0-60 times of the car though. Especially slope, temperature and sea level. You get horrible numbers especially in a turbo at altitude.
Great video, thanks! Both cars really move.
CVT's just arent strong enough to handle anything above 230 lb ft consistently IMO. They are a much cheaper solution and give great mpg. For anyone that likes to drive enthusiastically the CVT is useless and for anyone that likes performance mods..... fuggedaboutit
Mine tuner with the stock turbo has been handling 268lb tq fine with 40k+ miles. Bought used too
Honda needs to make more AWDs that get decent MPG. FWD sucks, IMO.
Next race Honda ACCORD 2.0T VS Acura tlx aspec or tlx base
That already happened
The Accord 2.0T wins
@@RaY_77W can you link it please 😊
I love how they call the Accord Touring 2.0T a Sport 2.0T. Fortunately the BHP and torque ratios are the same; it's just a naming issue.
Sorry king accord but the boy racer civic got this , I think 🤔
I'm not sure but I guess the cvt of the L15BA and L15B7 are the same. You say the hatch blows and the sedan don't. You're talking about the engine or the transmission?!?
I would love to see a stock 11th gen cvt hatch and accord drag. I find my hatch accelerate much faster after taking a corner and not so much and a straight drag.
You should make a video with a half mile and 1 mile drag race let’s see at top end speed who’ll be the winner
What was it, 2 or 3 runs, and the tuned Civic got overheated?? lmao
Read the comment from the owner, pinned here
Nice race like always, hey Sam i would like to see the BMW M235i with the G70 i know that BMW doesn't have the horse power like the G70 but that BMW feel so fast my brother just bought and feel fast i think will be a good race 👍
Ugh people that tune the CVT’s… why
Dang 13.65 for the civic not bad. My 1996 civic with 100 shot and fbo was barley making those numbers.
This video really points out to me how much I appreciate a good automatic . I know that cvts are efficient but are not for me . Very quick civic by the way .
Need to see a LT1 10 speed on here
Honda makes a good CVT. But, it still does not change this thing is a ticking time bomb with so much power being pushed.
Will be interested race but we know the outcome out of this one 😉
Why not step up the game for the civic? Like against an sti or a c43 or even the dct volestor
Dct veloster got beat by the civic type r
@@RaY_77W ohhhhh, well the c43 should take it
@@combustionengineforever7734 duh
@@RaY_77W not necessarily, this civic could give a Stock c43 a good fight
@@joe6843 maybe
I want to see a race between Jetta 1.4,1.8 and 2.0 , please do it
Not bad for a tunned civic wonder how long that cvt is gonna hold up wth that extra power
Whats time can run this 1.5T with CVT and 300hp on 1/4mile?
Is the accord tuned?
Nop
the accord owner said he has an intake and an exhaust, but that shouldn't really increase power dramatically.
@@josevince2424 yessir. Literally got an intake so I can hear the pshh pshh, and the exhaust to make the driving experience more enjoyable. Literally just a resonator delete with valved mufflers
@@ProjectBaggedRice the exhaust looks sick bro
I wanna watch between Amg CLA benz vs accord 2.0
How did the CVT withstand 300hp?? How it is in the long run?
whats done to the CVT??
how do you make that much horsepower in the Civic without the CVT slipping?
How did the accord do a second slower to 60 than it does stock?
Thanks for another awesome race SAM I think that CIVIC is going to take it unless the ACCORD is also Tuned.L15B7 is on a totally different game with a upgraded TURBO even though it's a CVT
Acura RDX 2.0t vs Honda accord 2.0t 🔥
I’ll Bring my Accord 2.0T
@@precisionmotors good!
300cv sur une cvt de 1.5t c'est trop pour avoir une transmission qui dure un minimum dans le temps.
Mais c'est sympa de voir ça.
French addict to Honda.
I’d just love to know who that super hot guy is in the track pointing to go …😱
Great cars but man I feel bad for the dude In the great interior, looks like a 1990’s interior color lol
Need to see the civic against the CTR now that would be interesting 🤔
Sam already did some races between that Civic and a Type R.
@@Schreibtisch1 I haven’t seen that what was the outcome?
可以標註汽車生產年份 好詳細參考
Civic won 🔥🔥🔥
I want to see an accord 1.5t sport
Thanx for the mph 👍🏿 🙌
how does MT and C&D get accord 0-60 in low to mid 5s and here is 6.3???????????
Because magazine times are not realistic. Magazine times are done at prepped track surfaces with launches OVER AND OVER again until they get the best launch. In real life you won’t have 15 times to launch a car in a street race or drag race. This is more realistic than a mid 5 seconds
oh yeah 1 extra second more for an overheating problem. accord ftw
I was surprised that the CVT could take 300hp. I didn't think the Civic would do so well as it did.
For how long though ?
Does the 1.5 accord has the same CVT in the 1.5 Civic?
@@aymanal_jahwari9148 Yea they do
What are the mods tho
damn. that civic is fast
Only thing that scares me is the 1.5 being unreliable like our Honda’s are suppose to be.
What's the music from the start of the video?
Please get a 17 maxima and race it or call me please Honda owner seem to think they are so fast but not even in the maxima class
Sam... Do 100to 200 km
suggestion
Accord 2.0t for stock performance and reliability ,looks without mods wins to me ... Civics always wanna be better than the bigger brother lol congrats to civic 4 win but thats over 100hp+ jump on a 1.5 liter engine idk man
ohhh weee that dang civic fast!!
I want to see it against a tuned 2.0
Still waiting for the trans to blow, no way a stock trans rated for 200hp max is gonna last
The Civic already had some high mileage, I can't remember the exact numbers
That's impressive to hit 180 in a civic
There 5 min I'll never get back.
This civic vs the type s
This this this 👆👆👆👆👆
@@brucedahmer3445 spam this on every video please
That's HONDA for ya 💪💪💪
Does that CVT have any modifications ?
Obviously
300bhp on civic rs? Rip cvt
Not sure why we are doing this race, we have a tuned and turbocharged civic which weighs less and is quicker, what were they trying to accomplish?
Sooner or later the civics transmission is going to grenade with that much power.
More power, less weight. MATH. A tuned accord would make it much more interesting.
Accord got taken to Gapplebees.
I feel like 200 horse per liter isn’t safe
that most garbage gearbox of the world (cvt) can't handle even 4 runs 🤣. The results were expected.. there's 50 bhp difference, also civic is @200lb lighter.