Club Building 101: Understanding Epoxy
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2024
- It is one of the most important but also undervalued supplies for building clubs - Epoxy.
This video explains how to properly mix and measure to ensure the best bond, along with a few tricks to help make your next build a success.
Great idea using a scale to insure proper mix ratio. Thanks!
Ryan,
Is it common for a shaft tip not to fit inside the hosel before prepping and sanding the tip?
I have a 2016 Bettinardi BB1 that I purchased a new shaft for. I was told by Bettinardi and another source that they use a .370 tip for their putters. I purchased a KBS CT putter shaft .370 tip and it does not fit.
I kept the old shaft tip and it seems like the old tip is slightly smaller then the new one. I am about to head out to Lowes and buy a micrometer. Before I sanded down the tip, I wanted to make sure that this is a common problem or if it's not a problem at all. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
I wish you would do more videos, you're very clear with all your explanations.
sanding down steel is not common practice and is usually only necessary on shafts right at the very tip if the chrome plating is causing an issue.
What it sounds like is the tip diameter of the shaft you have might be a bit out fo spec and that's causing the issue. Some gentle sanding may help fix the problem but dont go to far reducing the wall thickness.
Hi Ryan, another great video! The epoxy topic brings me to my question. Bear with me as I 'go around the issue here' You are never supposed to fill too much 'void/space' between shaft and head with epoxy - correct? So given an iron with a taper hosel and a .355 steel shaft at what point is a shim required? I find that in the majority of my repairs if I place the shaft into the head without glue , the head will be on so loose (you can twirl the head by turning the shaft with your hand). Only with a shim in place will the head fit 'snug' . Now I've experimented with two irons that fit loose - one had a shim put in it and the other without a shim. Neither one has failed....(yet?) So the question is: When reshafting any club, does it have to fit 'snug' (and what would be your criteria for 'snug') and if it doesn't and you go ahead and epoxy, will that build eventually fail? thanks again and sorry for the long winded question. :D Gary
Its a good question.
Snug doesn't have to mean absolutely no movement. But when you rest it to set is there a lot of lean?
If you can fit a shim in dry then you will need a shim for sure when using epoxy, if a shim has no chance of fitting dry then epoxy with shafting beads is probably the best bet.
Its a general rule but I hope this helps.
Hi Ryan, that does make a lot of sense. Sometimes after applying epoxy the club will 'set' after tapping the head into the shaft and if it does lean, I'll take it out and put the shim in it. thanks for clearing that up. :D
Any idea how I can remove a shaft adapter tip that has been epoxied in??????
Thank you Ryan; great vid!
Great video Ryan. I use the shafting beads almost all the time as you recommend, but sometimes I still struggle when the hosel diameter is too big for a snug fit. It's always too small a gap for a shim, and too large to only use epoxy and beads. An experienced club builder friend of mine suggested I cut up some small pieces of an aluminum can, coat both sides with epoxy and spiral it onto the shaft when gluing. It has worked fine and I haven't had any epoxy failures with it, but it still worries me . What do you think of this? Also I recently watched a video where a guy in a Tour van used some fishing line when gluing the shaft to the head together. I've used the mono fishing line to dry fit for swing weight and moi, but never in gluing...thoughts? Finally, I recently purchased some clamps that lock the shaft to the head. I haven't used them yet but was wondering if you have, and any thoughts.
Can you help explain how shafting beads help center the shaft? I never understood that. The sand seems too fine to self-center the shaft in the hosel, it just seems to thicken up the epoxy somewhat.
Shafting beads work a bit like a shim to fill extra space between the shaft and the hosel. When evenly applied and installed correctly the beads will help keep the shaft centered in the hosel and reduce lean.
@@ryanbarath1916 Why doesn't the epoxy do that? Why would you need beads to do what epoxy should be doing?
@@bertraminc9412 epoxy is liquid until it sets. think about it like a small jar inside a large jar, with marbles in-between. once the marbles (beads) are distributed, the inner jar (shaft) won't touch the wall of the outer one (hosel).
For the love of god I’ve reshafted a wedge 3 times, this thing will not stay on what am I missing lol the shaft tip is prepped the epoxy is golf grade epoxy the epoxy was applied in the hosel as well as the to the tip and then inserted left to set for hours. Failed after 20 hits or so.
So the beads will center a taper head 3.55 to a regular shaft..both 3.55
how much epoxy do you mix for a driver? weight = grams / oz. ?
I Don,t have shafting beads ? is there anything else i can use ? No club stores within 2000 miles so i have to DIY any repairs .This job is to replace a shaft in an old driver for a friends wife to use ,i have done a few inrons but not a driver before ,the head isa Ping G15 .
HI Thomas, sorry for the delay.
For a PING G15 you should use beads and a proper sleeve ferrule that is a stock replacement. Hard to recommend a substitute since I have only ever used proper beads.
Ryan, please confirm on epoxy.
1:.7 Total 1.7 grams
2: .7 Total 3.4 grams
3: .7 Total 5.1 grams
4: .7 Total 6.8 grams
5: .7 Total 8.5 grams
6: .7 Total 10.2 grams
7: .7. Total 11.9 grams
8: .7 Total 13.6 grams
9: .7 Total 15.3 grams
10: .7 Total 17.0 grams
Thank you. I realize this is simple but I am having such a mental block. Please reply.
Thank you for your prompt reply! Much appreciated.
Dude, OMG - this is not 'dark sciences' folks. You're gluing some clubs. I just eye ball two puddles and mix them together. Been doing this for years. Never had one fail. And I've taken them apart years later and it requires a ton of heat and torque. Also, save yourself some money on the shafting beads. I've never used shafting beads (snake oil?), and never had to. If the shafts feel a bit loose, you could use a bit of beads, but I would really wonder why it's loose. I don't mean to be graphic, but we could literally do a 20 minute video on how to wipe your butt. We could spend 5 minutes talking about the texture and thickness of the toilet paper (you don't want it too thin, or too thick) and then how to fold it, and then how many times to do the actual wiping, and of course the checking of the paper to ensure you're done. I mean, we can over complicate anything. Just make two puddles on some cardboard, mix well, get a tee and dab some inside the hosel, then coat the outside of the shaft, put the shaft in, and pull it out (displaces air) and then in again, then get some nail polish remover to clean the excess epoxy off the shaft and ferules, and set 'em up for a day. Some say the clubs should be in an upright position afterwards, I don't think it matters. Oh, and the epoxy I use is at least 15 years old. In two parts, and still as strong as ever. EZ.
@@newmanfertig886 Thanks. This is kinda what I thought, but I glued three clubs tonight. One became pretty tacky within 30 minutes, but the other two were still moving around. I came and watched this video and got spooked that my ratio was messed up, and somehow the first one I did just luckily got the right amount. So I carefully measured a new batch of epoxy, pulled the two that weren't setting, cleaned them up and re-did them. Probably completely unnecessary, but I guess we will see in the morning.
@@davidnettleton3375 Great! Glad it worked out for you.
will jb weld work
Use 2 part epoxy, and it will NOT fail.
@@newmanfertig886 are you sure? I’m looking at a pack of JB in my shop and debating on not even ordering “golf epoxy”😂😂
Says he has a super easy way to measure epoxy and then says take your scale. That's not easy if you don't have one. Thought he had a simple way to eyeballing it.