That’s Nathan Law, a Hong Kong politician currently in exile as he is wanted by the CCP and HK gov National Security police for threatening “national security.” His family in Hong Kong is currently being closely monitored and questioned by the police.
I believe that Hong Kong should gain their Independence from China and become like Singapore, cause Hong Kong is not like the other Chinese cities, it's more accepting, I hope they don't give up
Bored i mean, the easier way is to run. My parents did that cause they wanted to watch youtube or something im not sure and now I'm American apparently.
wrong. They stayed because they want to seize the assets that belong to the peaceful hardworking older generation. They use all kinds of dirty tricks to harass people who had been working hard to build up HK society and provide them education. They want to use mental tortures and human struggling to make older generation kill themselves or live miserably. These are innocent people who got nothing to do with politics. Is it fair? Is that what you guys called social justice?
As admirable as it’s, they should’ve known this is a lost cause. Peoples making mistake thinking freedom and democracy always come peacefully. It’s not. Sometimes there’s no other way other than self defence. That’s what 2nd amendment is for. So when the time comes (hopefully never will), citizens has the right and POWER to make a change.
@Mark Carson im not from china im from hk, what you say is wong, hk is dead and will die if it doesn't adapt to china, china has more successful cities than hk because those cities under china rules is making better progress while hk is being dragged down by its political limitations. Hk became a successful city under british 'dictatorship' not democracy. So why do you want democracy for hk when hk as never been a democracy?
I like how Americans in the comment section complain about how shit HK is when HK is more developed, richer and more civilized than any place in America.
But if your young citizens are crying "how can you treath us like that" than there is certainly something broken.The goverment first duty is to protect it's people.
Even though i know Hong Kong was a British Colony for almost a century, I still find it weird to see people in Hong Kong speaking with near-British accents.
They didn’t get it wrong the next time. This needed to happen in order for what’s happening this week to start. The Hong Kong people saw those students strength during 2014 and never forgot it.
Why are the people trying to get ahead of official government and ruling without letting it be heard? Why is it that you have all technology such as phones that you are outside starting movements?
The protesters plans of linking up with Macau, the Taiwanese, Tibet or Xinjiang activists is a bad idea, because they are considered outsiders by most of the rest of China. The government will just use an 'us vs them' campaign to turn most of the mainlanders against the protesters, and just outwait them again while the rest of China goes on about its business. You need actual support and sympathy from the mainland to effect any pressure on the party. This will probably take a long time, years if not a decade but it will come, because if there is any constant in history it is that ALL governments falter and THAT is the time to push them for concessions. An economic slowdown is coming, and more and more people will be questioning whether the party is still holding up its end of the social contract. That would be the time to get support and have an actual chance at getting concessions from the government.
If Taiwan, Hong Kong, Macau, Tibet and Xinjiang linked to be a single force against CCP and CCP sent all its (Un-"brainwashed") people against them the anti-CCP forces will win due to its higher morale
There is still a lot of things VICE News don't know yet. I am from Hong Kong, the situation is a lot more ridiculous. The police treated both parties unfairly. They treated the pro-Government people very nicely even though they punched and humiliated to students and the police LET THEM GO. Meanwhile, students didn't do much and were abused by police and law were enforced so intense that a single act will be questioned for 2 days.
China gave up Hong Kong to UK after the Opium War. Over 100 years Hong Kong was under the UK colonial status. China should give Hong Kong a special status and enforce the One Country Two Laws system. This should be China behind the chaos to blame on US through the push of the HK leader. If the riot mobs supported by US, do you think they are stupid enough to put up a US flag and played the US music? The HK police do not speak Canto and they are People Republic army came from the China to Hong Kong bridge. These China military police in Hong Kong do not carry an ID and no police number. They also fight like China soldiers.
i have huge admriation and respect for the people of hong Kong for fighting back against a system that's treats the people like they don't matter stand strong stand tall and stand brave hong Kong and let the world know the people do matter there is an old saying I would rather die on my feet then live on my knees
@Jeffery HAN [09S1] lol its u again. How about I give you three reason why China is growing in economy. Population, censorship and the lost of freedom of speech. Edit: in a good way
So...let me get this straight...China doesn't tolerate dissent, yet they put up with this demonstration for over a month. Surely that would mean that China does actually tolerate dissent?
Hong Hong is a special administrative region, China only has two sdr, HK and Macau, special administrative means that Hong Kong government have their own decision to choose the path of Hong Kong and China don’t have the right to disturb Hong Kong’s governances (一國兩制）, and now the chief executive of HK is all promoted by mainland China, China’s action of promoting the chief executive of HK is completely against the rule（一國兩制）, HK citizen can’t choose the chefs executive who is best if them, that’s why they are so angry about the Beijing government.
Honk Kong is a perfect example of Westernization being superior to being enslaved by China. The reason why Hong Kong is a pretty nice place to live in because British colonialism kept it independent from mainland China. Now that Britain granted Hong Kong its independence in the '90s and China's economy and military continues to grow, they're starting to get dragged into slavery under the Chinese regime. So, for all of the people that just love to blame Western colonialism for all of the world's problems, the examples of Hong Kong, Japan and South Korea prove that Western colonialists were relatively benevolent with their colonies.
Love this comment, although I wouldn't say benevolent because we did shit on our colonies, those that agreed with us and adopted the western ideology are much better off than those that didn't.
Only England though, other European countries weren't that generous to the local people as England(i.e Spain and Belgium ). And even though England did a really great job to improve those countries, they also took a lot of resources from them in return too.
Im from Hong Kong and you saying is absolutely right. You seldom see such scale of protest during the British colonial era. Not because they suppress our freedom, but our "remaining" freedom today is actually given by British which is now gradually taken away by the Chinese commies
we fight for future hong kong. I think all countries can use this sentence no matter when and where they are living. It is right? if it is right, come on, let's make fire, destroy and kill??? The police just fight to make hong kong peaceful again! How you can say they don't know.
The Chinese seem to have more balls than the yanks. You don't see people in the US standing up to the police that way. Much less against their dear Washington.
A Artisan Are you stupid? The Chinese police are way harsher. Did your blind ass not see how they abused those protestors? They even dragged them out to dark places to beat their ass.
Lol, I was not aware that a Communist party in America was taking away our voting rights and creating a fixed electoral process. Why should we protest like the Hong Kongers again?
SmashBrosBrawl Wow, you're blind... First of all, if you think voting every 4 years is what Democracy is all about, then you're a sheep. Second, having a government controlled by money is as "fixed" as it will ever be. Use your common sense, dumbfuck. I bet you've never even noticed that in the US there is only 2 political parties. Hell, you probably think that's normal. Now go fuck off to your video games, kiddo.
***** From mayor to President, everyone gets voted in by the people. Money certainly plays a factor and corporations can "sponsor" candidates that they share common interest with but at the end of the day, people vote. Ron Paul was probably the "Least Corrupt" politician and the people did not vote for him. And the two party system is pretty diverse, You have progressives, Libertarians, Tea Party, Etc.... The US system has it's problems but it is millions times better than having the state chose your candidates.
kickinghighify Hong Kong is puny, 7 million people. If China wanted to stablise Hong Kong, release the border gates and Hong Kong will become a suburb of Shenzhen within a week.
Most of what is happening in HK comes down to imperialism and colonialism. The British held Hong Kong as their colony for decades and colonialist ideology still has a strong hold in the city, the colonialism is expressed by so-called "democratic" opposition and hatred of "mainlanders", many Hong Kong citizens do not even think of themselves as Chinese, only Western. It's unfortunate that this type of repression happens, but ultimately Hong Kong is China and the Chinese government need to assimilate it into the rest of the country - which will have resistance. It's the same deal in the Indian province of Goa, which was a Portuguese colony until the Indians took it by force, many citizens there think of themselves as Portuguese, because of colonialism.
People coming from a western democracy will never hope to understand the cultural differences that are present. The very reason why this movement failed is because it was pushed by a group of narrow idealistic thinkers trying to move the region faster than it can adapt. You don't get to be an economical superpower in less than a century with partisan democracy slowing down every piece of legislation. China has a lot more to develop, a lot more to progress and it can't afford to play nice with every group there is. Democracy will eventually exist but probably not in the form that we're use to. AND, Hong Kong do have some form of a democratic process and they enjoy the most freedom out of all the regions in China. I just hope that people aren't so quick to pass down judgement on a region that they have no connection to and start waving the democracy boners because we all know how that went in Libya. Started from the top and now at the bottom...
i fell bad for then.. china gov is ruthless. and they have too be to. i dont think its in them they are like worker bees, in that system . i dont think they have the go to in a way it takes to get it done and their gov know that..
I only went to Hong Kong a few times but for some reason I worry so much for this country, I really hope China will get its hands off this unique and awesome place.
In a country that have rarely seen aggressive demonstrating, individuals that do try to protest properly, are criticized by all sides. Allowing police to just walk into their lines with ease, kicking their ass while doing so
@@zhangmaverick 靠一群暴乱分子想搞港独或推翻国家政权简直就是做梦。Mainland Chinese should make a protest also for fairness. Why Shanghai pays 600billion RMB to government each year and Hongkongers pay 0 cent? Where is the fairness? Why we should protect people that do not contribute to the country? They should leave from Chinese land.
some facts from Germany for the naive Hongkong teenagers. you get arrested when: 1. you wear a mask to cover the face 2. you wear anything else to cover your identity, including umbrellas 3. you carry anything what is usable as a weapon, including any kind of sticks or umbrella 4. to throw big stones or petrol bottles against the police is a murder attempt 5. to carry flags or signs od not allowed organisations 6. taking pics of the police is a reason to destroy the cam immediately, or to take away the cam and to arrest you. I think the rules in france or US are more strict then in Germany. In US they would be filing wrong mord cases against the leaders of the protest. Or the secret service shut them. Remember Martin Luther King or Malcolm X. Stop beeing naive and stupid. regards from Germany
Before Germany lectures anyone on anything, perhaps you should fix your self-created muslim problem. German women are not safe to walk outside at night.
@@steveguild871 i didn't advice how it should be. In opposite, I see, the Hongkong police is much more contained and democratic then the police in any western country.
I applaud all those Hong Kongers protesting for democracy. Freedom isn't free!
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These young kids are taught to love USA and Briton more than their mother land. So for the reason of humanity , we are pleading USA and Briton to accept these kids as refugees. When they become Western citizens, everybody will be happy
@@lionelmcmullen4049I am not sure the original origin of the source, but I remember Mao Zedong cited a similar quote during the communist revolution to motivate hid comrades
although this statement is true and the contradiction between Chinese government and Hong Kong does exist, but this video is more like anti-communists propagate that how bad Chinese communists are and appeal that we need to protest these bad Communists, bad Government and bad Police to gain their rights. it doesn't stand view on those policemen. what are they thinking about? Do these politician really thinking the way which citizen had said? why Chinese government have to do this decision? It didn't show us. I think if we really want to solve the problem between China and Hongkong. We should stand in different position to analyse the problem.
i like the attitude of the student leader guy, he was reflective on where they went wrong although im sure he could see the end coming. i hope they dont give up because i think their planning based on the little ive seen was pretty inspiring, the study area for students at admirality was brilliant!
Inequality at work. People feel marginalized and more and more forced into a corner where the future seem bleak and you see the result. High housing prices, low opportunities, and this is what you get.
When VICE News returned to Hong Kong near the end of 2014 to check in on the protesters, we witnessed the final days of the Umbrella Movement’s pro-democracy demonstrations. Watch "Hong Kong Rising" - bit.ly/1yGOOwv
Then u guys did a bad job because u only covered one side of the story. Shame on you guys and I was a big supporter of Vice before I saw this video. I thought you guys are better but ended up all medias are the same. Is all bias!! Sad.
Policemen ...where do you come from ???Hongkong ? or China? if you're hongkongers, you must listen your children ....most of them may be your children ...young hongkongers decide their futur, their democracy and their freedom ...we pray for you, young hongkongers...be proud and believe your fight
+Howard Tan I'm from Mainland background and I feel there should be independence, not for the sake of HK people BUT for Mainland Chinese ppl. For me personally, I rather the government, the country and its people to worry about their own issues and let HK ppl solve their problems themselves, even if there are HK people who feel HK is part of China. Just let them sort it out amongst themselves,while Mainland Chinese ppl can worry about their country and their government. The whole of this is making out like Mainland Chinese ppl are the bad guys and not all of them support the CCP.
+Peter Feng i admit that the education the people in Hong Kong receive is better to build up independent thinking than mainland did, and which is also the biggest problem right now in mainland, the education, the education needs reform. I mean urgently need. That's why there are a lot of students go abroad to get better education, but not in mainland. Why? Because the education in mainland is not be able to satisfy the demand of students.
Is it really silenced? Odd I still see the HK people standing strong. Are you always wrong Vice? Or do you just post whatever title seems to catch the most eyes?
Will somebody clarify why there is caucasian cops among the police breaking up the protest barricades? starting around the 7:12 mark you can see many of them among the HK police
china = not communist = dictatorship. I'd like to see xianjiang, taiwain, tibet and hongkong pull together to rebel against their overlord it would a sight to see.
so you want to see a nation plunge into a full out war? i believe reform is needed but not through violence and rebellion. many Chinese want change but not through war because they know this will bring about destruction to their country
They should have protested when the British ruled them... British never allowed them to vote. Chris Patten was assigned by the Prime Minister to govern HK without the permission of the HK Chinese.
Means Hong Kongers are happy with the way British ruled them...While Hong Kongers are really fed up with the way China manages them .... China rulers should really reflect.... if Hong Kongers who look so Chinese can be happy with British who look so different... yet so pissed with China rulers who look so similar..... something must be really wrong with China rulers....
@@transgenic40 or something must be wrong with the rioters?? Before the rioters in the 1990s HK did not have an issue with China rule.. and now we have rioters and look at the mess they made in HK. Even mainland is more peaceful than HK. So the mess has nothing to do with China. China was ruling HK in the 1990s before the rioters.
Dammit china sucks now! Before if there was a riot like this, people would be jumping around flying crouching tiger hidden dragon style. Gung Fuu everywhere and then some badly dubbed english. Some rich white guy comes out of nowhere in a business suit, laughs then leaves. That's because he is putting you on notice. So now you know whats up.
Michael Tsang Funniest fucking thing is you are obviously not in China because those oppressive fucks fucking block youtube. You are probably the son of a fucking corrupt official taking black money out of the country and fucking over the rest of the Chinese people. Communists are the greatest shame of the Chinese people and have screwed us over more than any other people on earth, including the Japanese.
InspirationIsFree Too bad I'm born in America so I know everything. Fuck back to America or Britain of you want democracy. Fuck out of Hong Kong piece of shit. Don't like it, leave. Fuck your protest too bitch.
One factor for this movement being not successful might be Korea's strong opposition to it,as opposed to what the movement's leaders thought(because of 1987 where I was part of). Korea is now aligned with Russia and China and its geopolitical interests are different than those of US,UK and Japan. A major Korean newspaper openly criticized this movement as "they don't even know where to lean on" or so. So did the conservative 40% who support the president as beng half god,half man. And that while Western countries and even Taipei expressed support to the movement.
I supoort this movement morally, but I don't know what else to do so as not to give the Beijing government the excuse to say that the movement is instigated by foreign forces.
All these HK students just blindly advocate their belief in so-called democracy while completely ignoring other HKers' feelings: Many of my friends and I could do nothing those days except sitting at home and hearing those kids yelling "police brutality"..... Brutality my ass... See what happened in Baltimore
Non sense , because I live belgium now , tax social every 3 month they take me 1/3 of my salary (1500€) , the house is expensive cost around 100 000 € for a shite house the bank refuse to help you if you don't have min. 30 000 € in your pocket , well if you see shenzen , we have more opportunity for the business ... I think I will go back china , I live in belgium since 1990 so believe me or not , sorry for my bad english I can speak french and mandarin , my second langage . time to go back to my motherland
Historically the price of freedom has been DEATH. If you want freedom, you have to be ready to sacrifce all. That is how the nations of the 1st world were founded and defended. Better to be a dead freedom fighter than an alive serf .... If that is the way you feel then "that simplifies the problem"
7:43 White police officers grinning in the background and (possibly) helping to grad a protester out of the crowd in the next scene... WTF so there are still British officers in HKPD?
If U want a war , just put on a military uniform and express your ideas & rights , I don't think the Hong Kong authorities really give a **it?To me it looks like free violence to hand down to your children,what an inheritance,to be proud of. Honey , the children are revolting , again !!!!!
Liberty was never made by Britsih colony, liberty and freedom are law of nature, law to be respected. And honestly speaking can China give freedom of speech to Chinese people. seriously! If it is not democracy in HK, despite being Brtish colony, HK people will never have the rights to expression, education, more facilities than Chinese citizens, reason Chinese people strive to come to HK. Or if HK government will decide themselves to be a democratic system without the British that will be excellent. But it is not the case, HERE.
Daniel Wong Well hard to change a 1.6(?) billion country in one city, even if it is an important one. That would not even work in my country and our capital makes up almost 1/4 of the entire countries population XD
Ummm nothing is impossible in our human history right? No one have thought the America could gain independence from Great Britain in 18 century but really did in 1776, and no one had thought the USSR would disintegrate without a war. Remember international circumstances are always changing, so keep in faith
Studies show that older folk usually are more docile and sheepish and usually "take it from the man" because of children Meanwhile student are more aware and proactive to these situations.
Because they have the time and energy and spend all day thinking critically about things. They don't have to worry about feeding a family or losing a job. Things that are going on now will affect their lives more greatly than someone who's already retired.
All these students are naive, they should go to America to experience how bad the democracy system is, there is no such things as one people one vote in America, all the US leaders is not chosen by the people, but chosen and support by power behind them.
do not worry where I post my comments, when British was colonise Hong kong, there is no such things as freedom of speech, let not even talk about one people one vote, the Governor general of HK was appointed by the Queen, and change every 10 years, when Britain hand over Hong Kong to China, then they worry about one people one vote, is this double face and standard.
primoshunter They were mostly kids and unemployed youth. They aren't comming back because they have pissed off the locals, and the locals won't stand to see it destroy their livelyhoods anymore. Right now, these protests have been morphed into personal attacks against mainland people, there was just a video of a group of these idiots harrassing a mother and her 4 year old daughter into tears. Great example for its cause right? These protests lacked agenda from day one, they were infact hijacked away from its original organisers.
There will be a protest on 9/6 in HK against the controversial extradition bill the government tries to push through that will allow the transfer of fugitives to the mainland. If passed, it will be a huge threat to HK’s judicial independence and it will open the door for political prosecution of activists and speed up the integration of HK and China.
You all are educated? You know wateva you all do won’t change anything, right? What is not da matter of winning or losing, jus to show citizen powerful??? YOU ALL making them sitting back, watching tv, laughing & even plan more & more... What’s da point?! & I strongly say is doesn’t AT ALL police prob cos they jus doing their job. HK police been GREAT enough compare to other countries which use even ‘real weapon’ ..
@@dragonfly1929 We constantly offend the police in America and most of our protests end with nobody on either side being hurt. Also, one of the cool things about living under a democratic government is that you can stand up for your rights and liberties without being forced to march on the streets.
Indeed, Hong Kong was still British long after the idea of empire began to be thought of as something very negative. But there is something very strange about what the British did with Hong Kong, or rather what the British did not do. That is, for the longest time Great Britain never attempted to introduce democracy to Hong Kong. In the end, Hong Kong never did became a democracy under Great Britain. It is surprising I know.
Well historical evidence indicates that Britain once attempted to give democracy to Hong Kong, but was threatened by China to withdraw the idea with the PLA to crush at Hong Kong. But anyways as Britain did a relatively good job in establishing the freedom, rule of law and anti-corruption institutions like ICAC and the economic prosperity of Hong Kong, the people of Hong Kong did not clamour for democracy much like today. Those were the days when the Brits are here, sigh
This seems very interesting and all, but I couldnt listen for more than 2 minutes due to the talkers extreme S-pronounciations. They are way too sharp and my ears are hurting now. For the future, you should try using a de-esser program or while recording, try speaking at an angle of the mic, effectively "missing" the mic, rather than straight "at" it. Sorry for being anal, I love VICE, but I just cant watch due to that S-sound.
The world fails to produce leaders like they did in the past. If people like MLK, Gandi, and their followers gave up so easily, when things got tough, we would be living in a very different world. All these new movements pops out of no where and gets nothing done, like the whole Umbrella movements, or Occupy Wall Street. To me it seems most of these people are just there to get media attention, and once the media hype goes away, so does the movement. I truly thought it was a good cause, "The Umbrella Movement," but seems like another failure due to lack of strong leadership.
At 10:42 when the man comments about the girl interviewed and said gau-wu, meaning shopping I don't entirely understand what the joke is. Can someone help me understand?
Like the Hong kongers are protesting against the mainland China and gou Wu is the mandarin of shopping. People were on the streets protesting and the CE asked the mainland Chinese people to support the shops right, so the protesters used this excuse to protest on the street. Hope this helped
+Leah Pugh The Chief Executive was encouraging people to go to Mong Kok, which was the stage of occupation, right after the "clear stage" finished. Then the "customers" went to Mong Kok and kept protesting by using the name of "gau-wu".
Someone should consider opening an arms smuggling organization to hong-kong. My guess is if they had guns, AT launchers, and AA guns, things would be much different :)
SImon .Chen Too smart? They are still under occupation and their 'intelligence' sure didn't help anything. When you look at other regions in the world: -Egypt => got rid of its' dictators through violence - Libya => Got rid of its' leader through violence as well (although lack of leadership created a continued civil war for dominance). - Tunisia => Got rid of its' leaders and pushed for reform with violent protests. - Cuba => Same story... When there is a will to fight, there come results. The land belongs only to the one who is willing to fight for it, and if Hong-Kong residents are not willing to fight, they will NEVER get true freedom.
Leon Campa results? yes they got rid of one dictator but what stops another one from coming in? if im not wrong most of the countries you mentioned have became a war zone especially Libya. violence simply tears the country into pieces. Darkness cannot drive out Darkness only light can do that, Violence cannot drive out Violence only love can do that
New_PoV Which why I said organization and leadership is important. The protesters need to elect a leader of their own, even if it is not recognized by the party running the government, and announce that they name them as their interim leader until they gain the full right to democracy
Knew it would be a defeat and it truly is. But it is not useless, hopeless. At least it shows that freedom, independence and democracy are still valued by people.
I'm so proud of the Hong Kong protesters. Remember Teanimen square 7 thousand people are still missing and the tank guy gone. The only way out of socialism is "in front of the gun or behind it".
What respect. They are demonstrating and disobeyed the laws! They should be taught a hard lesson. I respect the police. This hong kong people are given too much priviledge and they are going overboard!
@@hunkhengloh3487 Haven't you watch the video? You are such a heartless person. Disrupting law and order is what you can think of? It goes even deeper than that. You are the one that should be given a hard lesson of education on humanity.
0:22 One might suggest that what the police are fighting for is Chinese martial tradition, believing in Guan Yu , that wealth arises from wisdom and war. At least the people of HK feel no great need to establish a bastion of their own, within which they may become trapped, by way of murder group circuiting (aka as uniting, or joining together in a halo). May their wisdom be of longevity of purpose, as opposed to futility of endeavour.
"we are not here because there is hope, we are here, therefore there is hope." 23:39
works for any situations, even you are killing. You also can use this sentence to convince yourselves.
That’s Nathan Law, a Hong Kong politician currently in exile as he is wanted by the CCP and HK gov National Security police for threatening “national security.” His family in Hong Kong is currently being closely monitored and questioned by the police.
5:48 "A communist dog shat 3 pieces of turd & those are the choices you are given"... that line was epic!!!
I believe that Hong Kong should gain their Independence from China and become like Singapore, cause Hong Kong is not like the other Chinese cities, it's more accepting, I hope they don't give up
that's exactly why these fuckers need to be silenced.
Haiyang Li but why do they have to be silenced? If you was forced to do something you disn't believe in, you would be pissed too.
Haiyang Li shut it you commie
PyroMachinima shut you ass up and speak to the family of those BLACK dudes got killed by your great WHITE cops for NO freaking reason
PyroMachinima shut it fedora
Huge respect for these people. Instead of running away to other countries they stay and fight to create change within their own country huge respect.
Bored i mean, the easier way is to run. My parents did that cause they wanted to watch youtube or something im not sure and now I'm American apparently.
wrong. They stayed because they want to seize the assets that belong to the peaceful hardworking older generation. They use all kinds of dirty tricks to harass people who had been working hard to build up HK society and provide them education. They want to use mental tortures and human struggling to make older generation kill themselves or live miserably. These are innocent people who got nothing to do with politics. Is it fair? Is that what you guys called social justice?
As admirable as it’s, they should’ve known this is a lost cause. Peoples making mistake thinking freedom and democracy always come peacefully. It’s not. Sometimes there’s no other way other than self defence. That’s what 2nd amendment is for. So when the time comes (hopefully never will), citizens has the right and POWER to make a change.
@Mark Carson im not from china im from hk, what you say is wong, hk is dead and will die if it doesn't adapt to china, china has more successful cities than hk because those cities under china rules is making better progress while hk is being dragged down by its political limitations. Hk became a successful city under british 'dictatorship' not democracy. So why do you want democracy for hk when hk as never been a democracy?
Bored That’s because there’s someone giving out money to these territories,US
I like how Americans in the comment section complain about how shit HK is when HK is more developed, richer and more civilized than any place in America.
Because of the British, whose ancestors and culture gave rise to America.
"When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty."
My first time watching this today, on 7th Sept 2019. The unbrellas do not look silenced
But if your young citizens are crying "how can you treath us like that" than there is certainly something broken.The goverment first duty is to protect it's people.
It is happening again now! Be strong Hong Kong people!
Rubbish
Its already happening today
Chinese Banks create Money out of nothing . But the banks hardly give anything to the workers . The are agree about this scam . Why not the Police ?
Even though i know Hong Kong was a British Colony for almost a century, I still find it weird to see people in Hong Kong speaking with near-British accents.
They didn’t get it wrong the next time. This needed to happen in order for what’s happening this week to start. The Hong Kong people saw those students strength during 2014 and never forgot it.
Why are the people trying to get ahead of official government and ruling without letting it be heard? Why is it that you have all technology such as phones that you are outside starting movements?
Do Police know what they fight for?
Yes,the police are fighting for law & order.
@@hunkhengloh3487 Chinese BOT stay away. Communist LOSER in communism everyone is low class.
Look at the comments here, who is one that’s being brainwashed here?
Salaries and communist China
@@hunkhengloh3487 that is surtenly not order and law ?
When the British and the Portuguese gave Hong Kong and Maccau back to China they gave it to the wrong China
The protesters plans of linking up with Macau, the Taiwanese, Tibet or Xinjiang activists is a bad idea, because they are considered outsiders by most of the rest of China. The government will just use an 'us vs them' campaign to turn most of the mainlanders against the protesters, and just outwait them again while the rest of China goes on about its business. You need actual support and sympathy from the mainland to effect any pressure on the party.
This will probably take a long time, years if not a decade but it will come, because if there is any constant in history it is that ALL governments falter and THAT is the time to push them for concessions. An economic slowdown is coming, and more and more people will be questioning whether the party is still holding up its end of the social contract. That would be the time to get support and have an actual chance at getting concessions from the government.
If Taiwan, Hong Kong, Macau, Tibet and Xinjiang linked to be a single force against CCP and CCP sent all its (Un-"brainwashed") people against them the anti-CCP forces will win due to its higher morale
They are not protesters, but Rioters
Who’s here after all the 2020 protesting
23:37 "We are not here because there is hope; we are here, therefore there is hope."
you should feel grateful that Hk police dont shoot you to death
like US police
simply because the protester raised his hand up and surrender to police
I guess you've never heard of the Tiananmen Square Massacre
There is still a lot of things VICE News don't know yet. I am from Hong Kong, the situation is a lot more ridiculous. The police treated both parties unfairly. They treated the pro-Government people very nicely even though they punched and humiliated to students and the police LET THEM GO. Meanwhile, students didn't do much and were abused by police and law were enforced so intense that a single act will be questioned for 2 days.
+saurabh chaudhari wow you just have admitted the natural instinct of a rapo too bad
saurabh chaudhari rapo
China gave up Hong Kong to UK after the Opium War. Over 100 years Hong Kong was under the UK colonial status. China should give Hong Kong a special status and enforce the One Country Two Laws system.
This should be China behind the chaos to blame on US through the push of the HK leader. If the riot mobs supported by US, do you think they are stupid enough to put up a US flag and played the US music? The HK police do not speak Canto and they are People Republic army came from the China to Hong Kong bridge. These China military police in Hong Kong do not carry an ID and no police number. They also fight like China soldiers.
i have huge admriation and respect for the people of hong Kong for fighting back against a system that's treats the people like they don't matter stand strong stand tall and stand brave hong Kong and let the world know the people do matter there is an old saying I would rather die on my feet then live on my knees
Are you???
@@Piergano AM I WHAT .WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TOO ASK ME
why you charging at the police ??? nothing will change, sorry HK ppl the govt will not give a shit about you. don't blame the police tho.
As a fellow student, I believe Hong Kong should be independent and not under china's control.
@Jeffery HAN [09S1] lol its u again.
How about I give you three reason why China is growing in economy.
Population, censorship and the lost of freedom of speech.
Edit: in a good way
So...let me get this straight...China doesn't tolerate dissent, yet they put up with this demonstration for over a month. Surely that would mean that China does actually tolerate dissent?
As long as this is contained in HK and does not spread to the mainland, they will "tolerate" it
Right.
Because the one in charge is the hong kong government, for now
It's that they are WEAK
I salute the youth of Hong Kong and i am touched by their actions. From Singapore
Hong Hong is a special administrative region, China only has two sdr, HK and Macau, special administrative means that Hong Kong government have their own decision to choose the path of Hong Kong and China don’t have the right to disturb Hong Kong’s governances (一國兩制）, and now the chief executive of HK is all promoted by mainland China, China’s action of promoting the chief executive of HK is completely against the rule（一國兩制）, HK citizen can’t choose the chefs executive who is best if them, that’s why they are so angry about the Beijing government.
Honk Kong is a perfect example of Westernization being superior to being enslaved by China. The reason why Hong Kong is a pretty nice place to live in because British colonialism kept it independent from mainland China. Now that Britain granted Hong Kong its independence in the '90s and China's economy and military continues to grow, they're starting to get dragged into slavery under the Chinese regime. So, for all of the people that just love to blame Western colonialism for all of the world's problems, the examples of Hong Kong, Japan and South Korea prove that Western colonialists were relatively benevolent with their colonies.
Love this comment, although I wouldn't say benevolent because we did shit on our colonies, those that agreed with us and adopted the western ideology are much better off than those that didn't.
sigh~ Typical 'western anglo exceptionalism'
Japan lol? Which empire were they part of?
Only England though, other European countries weren't that generous to the local people as England(i.e Spain and Belgium ). And even though England did a really great job to improve those countries, they also took a lot of resources from them in return too.
Im from Hong Kong and you saying is absolutely right. You seldom see such scale of protest during the British colonial era. Not because they suppress our freedom, but our "remaining" freedom today is actually given by British which is now gradually taken away by the Chinese commies
But wait, if the police is the first to attack a civilian, do they have the right to sue like we do in North America?
No
Feel sad to see this we are all chinese people it has always the old people running and control they dont understand the young people dreams
we fight for future hong kong. I think all countries can use this sentence no matter when and where they are living. It is right? if it is right, come on, let's make fire, destroy and kill??? The police just fight to make hong kong peaceful again! How you can say they don't know.
The Chinese seem to have more balls than the yanks. You don't see people in the US standing up to the police that way. Much less against their dear Washington.
A Artisan
Are you stupid? The Chinese police are way harsher. Did your blind ass not see how they abused those protestors? They even dragged them out to dark places to beat their ass.
Lol, I was not aware that a Communist party in America was taking away our voting rights and creating a fixed electoral process.
Why should we protest like the Hong Kongers again?
SmashBrosBrawl Wow, you're blind... First of all, if you think voting every 4 years is what Democracy is all about, then you're a sheep. Second, having a government controlled by money is as "fixed" as it will ever be. Use your common sense, dumbfuck. I bet you've never even noticed that in the US there is only 2 political parties. Hell, you probably think that's normal. Now go fuck off to your video games, kiddo.
*****
From mayor to President, everyone gets voted in by the people.
Money certainly plays a factor and corporations can "sponsor" candidates that they share common interest with but at the end of the day, people vote.
Ron Paul was probably the "Least Corrupt" politician and the people did not vote for him.
And the two party system is pretty diverse, You have progressives, Libertarians, Tea Party, Etc....
The US system has it's problems but it is millions times better than having the state chose your candidates.
SmashBrosBrawl
You're fucking stupid, you know that?
Well done Chinese, didn't let the americans have another maidan to break up another country and plunge it into a civil war.
kickinghighify Hong Kong is puny, 7 million people. If China wanted to stablise Hong Kong, release the border gates and Hong Kong will become a suburb of Shenzhen within a week.
Subtitles please! It will be so much easier to people who didnt speak english to understand!
Most of what is happening in HK comes down to imperialism and colonialism. The British held Hong Kong as their colony for decades and colonialist ideology still has a strong hold in the city, the colonialism is expressed by so-called "democratic" opposition and hatred of "mainlanders", many Hong Kong citizens do not even think of themselves as Chinese, only Western. It's unfortunate that this type of repression happens, but ultimately Hong Kong is China and the Chinese government need to assimilate it into the rest of the country - which will have resistance. It's the same deal in the Indian province of Goa, which was a Portuguese colony until the Indians took it by force, many citizens there think of themselves as Portuguese, because of colonialism.
People coming from a western democracy will never hope to understand the cultural differences that are present. The very reason why this movement failed is because it was pushed by a group of narrow idealistic thinkers trying to move the region faster than it can adapt. You don't get to be an economical superpower in less than a century with partisan democracy slowing down every piece of legislation. China has a lot more to develop, a lot more to progress and it can't afford to play nice with every group there is.
Democracy will eventually exist but probably not in the form that we're use to. AND, Hong Kong do have some form of a democratic process and they enjoy the most freedom out of all the regions in China. I just hope that people aren't so quick to pass down judgement on a region that they have no connection to and start waving the democracy boners because we all know how that went in Libya. Started from the top and now at the bottom...
i fell bad for then.. china gov is ruthless. and they have too be to. i dont think its in them they are like worker bees, in that system . i dont think they have the go to in a way it takes to get it done and their gov know that..
I only went to Hong Kong a few times but for some reason I worry so much for this country, I really hope China will get its hands off this unique and awesome place.
fck streetshitters what is your problem man?...
What doesn't make sense is why are you testing law?
These guys need to take a trip to Ferguson and L.A for some protester lessons.
So fucking true lmao
Yeah, students think that cops with helmets and little round shields are SWAT.
we are being facetious you degenerate swine Humza Mir
how self centered can you people be.
In a country that have rarely seen aggressive demonstrating, individuals that do try to protest properly, are criticized by all sides. Allowing police to just walk into their lines with ease, kicking their ass while doing so
I don't go against these students, I support them. However building barricades and stopping part of the city does not seem like peaceful protest...
All with masks should be arrested because there identity cannot be identified, especially during a protest. Violently, they can do whatever.
O Liberté, que de crimes on commet en ton nom! (Oh Liberty, what crimes are committed in thy name!)
@@zhangmaverick 别空喊口号了，连社会秩序都没有了还要什么自由。
@@heikogao 如果一個社會，淪落到是非不分，笑貧不笑娼，巧取豪奪，文以儒亂法，俠以武犯禁；全不以為羞耻，用上一句 "自由人權！"，狀棍加上政棍，刁民混合了蠢人，漢奸小丑跳樑； 這樣，盗賊流氓成了英雄好漢
@@zhangmaverick 靠一群暴乱分子想搞港独或推翻国家政权简直就是做梦。Mainland Chinese should make a protest also for fairness. Why Shanghai pays 600billion RMB to government each year and Hongkongers pay 0 cent? Where is the fairness? Why we should protect people that do not contribute to the country? They should leave from Chinese land.
@@heikogao 從美國人那一套的所謂民主去看他們的國家，由百萬份之一的政客和利得階層，把國家利益分賍式掠奪。普通民眾的利益，毫無保障。從社會福利到言論自由，只是水月鏡花，騙得了自己，卻是騙不到別人。如果用人人平等，選賢與能，社會資源分配公義去衡量，那麼，大部份的西方所謂民主國家，都不及格。美國的選舉制度，是專制和獨裁的間接選舉，由地方勢力，土豪和財閥們角力操控，超级選舉代表制度的存在，令選舉成了鬧劇。國會廟堂上，大多是空有大言而無實學的城狐社鼠，䲭鳥豺狼。每次選舉，選民站在票箱，看到不同陌生面孔，腦中浮現着政客們的花言巧語，將信將疑，茫茫然地投下他心中神聖一票。结果換上了另類的豺狼奸侫，再苦惱幾年，而苦惱是不中斷的，這就是美式民主的悲哀，也是你所謂的民主的選擇。我們到歐洲看看，到處都是頹垣敗瓦，民生凋零。我看見了路有餓俘，看見基礎建設的残破，民眾的苦難多艱。當然，這不是西方民主制度的責任，但由制度所衍生的毛病，是明確的。每一個國家，都應該因時制宜，選擇自己適合的政治制度。世上並無最好的制度，亦沒有推之四海而皆準，傳之萬世而不悖的真理
中國人傳統教育，主張量鑿而正枘以明倫理，教育的目的是傳道授業解惑和致良知。而業術有專攻。中國政府今日的教育政策和目的，也是一樣；只是方法不同。在世界還沒有大同，天下不為公的國際環境中，在經過歷史的教訓，百年屈辱的民族苦難；中國的教育政策，是要團結所有的人民，用同一的思想和步我，砥礪前行。要團結，就不能沒有領袖，沒有中心。例如，古人大部份的醫學，都托言黃帝金匱秘方，也是一樣的道理。這種模式，在經過西方人的渲染和抹黑，變成是不文明的，是不民主而獨裁的，但事實並不如此。
some facts from Germany for the naive Hongkong teenagers. you get arrested when:
1. you wear a mask to cover the face
2. you wear anything else to cover your identity, including umbrellas
3. you carry anything what is usable as a weapon, including any kind of sticks or umbrella
4. to throw big stones or petrol bottles against the police is a murder attempt
5. to carry flags or signs od not allowed organisations
6. taking pics of the police is a reason to destroy the cam immediately, or to take away the cam and to arrest you.
I think the rules in france or US are more strict then in Germany.
In US they would be filing wrong mord cases against the leaders of the protest. Or the secret service shut them. Remember Martin Luther King or Malcolm X.
Stop beeing naive and stupid.
regards from Germany
They wear masks because China makes HKers disappear. One by one...
th-cam.com/video/zzzERglFgj8/w-d-xo.html
Absolutely Estefan
Before Germany lectures anyone on anything, perhaps you should fix your self-created muslim problem. German women are not safe to walk outside at night.
@@steveguild871 i didn't advice how it should be. In opposite, I see, the Hongkong police is much more contained and democratic then the police in any western country.
I applaud all those Hong Kongers protesting for democracy. Freedom isn't free!
These young kids are taught to love USA and Briton more than their mother land. So for the reason of humanity , we are pleading USA and Briton to accept these kids as refugees. When they become Western citizens, everybody will be happy
Very good ideas! Brilliant thought!
The smallest light still shines in the darkest night .
Wow that's a very beautiful quote where did you hear it
@@lionelmcmullen4049I am not sure the original origin of the source, but I remember Mao Zedong cited a similar quote during the communist revolution to motivate hid comrades
although this statement is true and the contradiction between Chinese government and Hong Kong does exist, but this video is more like anti-communists propagate that how bad Chinese communists are and appeal that we need to protest these bad Communists, bad Government and bad Police to gain their rights. it doesn't stand view on those policemen. what are they thinking about? Do these politician really thinking the way which citizen had said? why Chinese government have to do this decision? It didn't show us. I think if we really want to solve the problem between China and Hongkong. We should stand in different position to analyse the problem.
i like the attitude of the student leader guy, he was reflective on where they went wrong although im sure he could see the end coming. i hope they dont give up because i think their planning based on the little ive seen was pretty inspiring, the study area for students at admirality was brilliant!
Inequality at work. People feel marginalized and more and more forced into a corner where the future seem bleak and you see the result. High housing prices, low opportunities, and this is what you get.
When VICE News returned to Hong Kong near the end of 2014 to check in on the protesters, we witnessed the final days of the Umbrella Movement’s pro-democracy demonstrations.
Watch "Hong Kong Rising" - bit.ly/1yGOOwv
Helloooooooooo
Then u guys did a bad job because u only covered one side of the story. Shame on you guys and I was a big supporter of Vice before I saw this video. I thought you guys are better but ended up all medias are the same. Is all bias!! Sad.
Eric is like a leftard who believes that media should also speak for the Nazis in slaughtering the Jews
Daniel Wong "leftard" - are you fucking 12?
Go google if u don't know what this term means...
Policemen ...where do you come from ???Hongkong ? or China? if you're hongkongers, you must listen your children ....most of them may be your children ...young hongkongers decide their futur, their democracy and their freedom ...we pray for you, young hongkongers...be proud and believe your fight
these people don't represent the most part of people in Hong Kong. What do they is the most that most of other people in Hong Kong don't want to do.
+Howard Tan I'm from Mainland background and I feel there should be independence, not for the sake of HK people BUT for Mainland Chinese ppl. For me personally, I rather the government, the country and its people to worry about their own issues and let HK ppl solve their problems themselves, even if there are HK people who feel HK is part of China. Just let them sort it out amongst themselves,while Mainland Chinese ppl can worry about their country and their government. The whole of this is making out like Mainland Chinese ppl are the bad guys and not all of them support the CCP.
+Peter Feng i admit that the education the people in Hong Kong receive is better to build up independent thinking than mainland did, and which is also the biggest problem right now in mainland, the education, the education needs reform. I mean urgently need. That's why there are a lot of students go abroad to get better education, but not in mainland. Why? Because the education in mainland is not be able to satisfy the demand of students.
Is it really silenced? Odd I still see the HK people standing strong. Are you always wrong Vice? Or do you just post whatever title seems to catch the most eyes?
This is 2014 from when it started. 2019 what your seeing now is the final comeback!
Final until China gets control over their sovereignty after the 50 years has gone and passed.
I’m a Hong Konger and I just don’t know what to say
Will somebody clarify why there is caucasian cops among the police breaking up the protest barricades? starting around the 7:12 mark you can see many of them among the HK police
china = not communist = dictatorship. I'd like to see xianjiang, taiwain, tibet and hongkong pull together to rebel against their overlord it would a sight to see.
so you want to see a nation plunge into a full out war? i believe reform is needed but not through violence and rebellion. many Chinese want change but not through war because they know this will bring about destruction to their country
yeah sure you piece of shit
You can't even spell xinjiang correctly. I'm from there and I know 99.9% of the people living there hate fucking terrorist actions going on there...
It will never happen, Cadet
HOW CORRECTLY ONE OF THE WOMEN THAT CRITICIZES THE PROTESTERS SHOUTED THEY ARE NOT HONGKONGERS JUST SEE THEIR ID CARDS , THEY ARE FROM TAIWAN.
They should have protested when the British ruled them... British never allowed them to vote. Chris Patten was assigned by the Prime Minister to govern HK without the permission of the HK Chinese.
You are absolutely correct sisisiUSA
Means Hong Kongers are happy with the way British ruled them...While Hong Kongers are really fed up with the way China manages them .... China rulers should really reflect.... if Hong Kongers who look so Chinese can be happy with British who look so different... yet so pissed with China rulers who look so similar..... something must be really wrong with China rulers....
@@transgenic40 or something must be wrong with the rioters?? Before the rioters in the 1990s HK did not have an issue with China rule.. and now we have rioters and look at the mess they made in HK. Even mainland is more peaceful than HK. So the mess has nothing to do with China. China was ruling HK in the 1990s before the rioters.
Dammit china sucks now! Before if there was a riot like this, people would be jumping around flying crouching tiger hidden dragon style. Gung Fuu everywhere and then some badly dubbed english. Some rich white guy comes out of nowhere in a business suit, laughs then leaves. That's because he is putting you on notice. So now you know whats up.
I am proud to be a Hong Konger
Shut up idiot. You never had democracy for British rule and you won't get any now. Fuck off idiot.
Michael Tsang Fuck you you commie fuck!! I kill communists for fun!!! Learn to write in English then you can talk.
Michael Tsang Funniest fucking thing is you are obviously not in China because those oppressive fucks fucking block youtube. You are probably the son of a fucking corrupt official taking black money out of the country and fucking over the rest of the Chinese people. Communists are the greatest shame of the Chinese people and have screwed us over more than any other people on earth, including the Japanese.
InspirationIsFree Too bad I'm born in America so I know everything. Fuck back to America or Britain of you want democracy. Fuck out of Hong Kong piece of shit. Don't like it, leave. Fuck your protest too bitch.
Michael Tsang fuck you and your family for 18 generations
One factor for this movement being not successful might be Korea's strong opposition to it,as opposed to what the movement's leaders thought(because of 1987 where I was part of). Korea is now aligned with Russia and China and its geopolitical interests are different than those of US,UK and Japan. A major Korean newspaper openly criticized this movement as "they don't even know where to lean on" or so. So did the conservative 40% who support the president as beng half god,half man. And that while Western countries and even Taipei expressed support to the movement.
I supoort this movement morally, but I don't know what else to do so as not to give the Beijing government the excuse to say that the movement is instigated by foreign forces.
Of course it is instigated by foreign forces,you idiot!
Dial 911
they need to use force because peaceful protests are clearly not working
18:00 gave me chills
All these HK students just blindly advocate their belief in so-called democracy while completely ignoring other HKers' feelings: Many of my friends and I could do nothing those days except sitting at home and hearing those kids yelling "police brutality"..... Brutality my ass... See what happened in Baltimore
Carlos what are the benefit of democracy?
Non sense , because I live belgium now , tax social every 3 month they take me 1/3 of my salary (1500€) , the house is expensive cost around 100 000 € for a shite house the bank refuse to help you if you don't have min. 30 000 € in your pocket , well if you see shenzen , we have more opportunity for the business ... I think I will go back china , I live in belgium since 1990 so believe me or not , sorry for my bad english I can speak french and mandarin , my second langage . time to go back to my motherland
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
-John F. Kennedy
Historically the price of freedom has been DEATH. If you want freedom, you have to be ready to sacrifce all. That is how the nations of the 1st world were founded and defended. Better to be a dead freedom fighter than an alive serf .... If that is the way you feel then "that simplifies the problem"
FREE HONG KONG
@@tvbnews4376 free your mind and you'll live a better life! If you want to "free" like the yellow umbrella sht, you're going to rammed up your assss.
7:43 White police officers grinning in the background and (possibly) helping to grad a protester out of the crowd in the next scene... WTF so there are still British officers in HKPD?
If U want a war , just put on a military uniform and express your ideas & rights , I don't think the Hong Kong authorities really give a **it?To me it looks like free violence to hand down to your children,what an inheritance,to be proud of. Honey , the children are revolting , again !!!!!
Finally, the police fight back. Great, get rid of the thugs and terrorists. The bad guys deserve it and the rule of law prevails.
Liberty was never made by Britsih colony, liberty and freedom are law of nature, law to be respected. And honestly speaking can China give freedom of speech to Chinese people. seriously! If it is not democracy in HK, despite being Brtish colony, HK people will never have the rights to expression, education, more facilities than Chinese citizens, reason Chinese people strive to come to HK.
Or if HK government will decide themselves to be a democratic system without the British that will be excellent. But it is not the case, HERE.
I hope that there will be changes in China, but i guess a slow pace would be better, as too fast ones are very likely to end in a bloodbath.
I don't care for changes in China, but I wont changes in Hong Kong RIGHT NOW
Daniel Wong Well hard to change a 1.6(?) billion country in one city, even if it is an important one. That would not even work in my country and our capital makes up almost 1/4 of the entire countries population XD
Ummm nothing is impossible in our human history right? No one have thought the America could gain independence from Great Britain in 18 century but really did in 1776, and no one had thought the USSR would disintegrate without a war.
Remember international circumstances are always changing, so keep in faith
Daniel Wong Well good luck then ^^
If this was happening in France, The cops would get their ass kicked by Charlies!
why is it always the student youth who end up at these democracy rallies? You never see gainfully employed normal everday people at these things....
say whats the word on the situation on maduro in venezuela are they still protestin out there vice hasnt been saying much about it!
Studies show that older folk usually are more docile and sheepish and usually "take it from the man" because of children
Meanwhile student are more aware and proactive to these situations.
Employed people usually have to worry about day to day things like bills and shit while college students have time to take up causes.
Spencer Chudyk
So, protesting is just a smokescreen for liberty and democracy unless students do it.
What a hideous picture...
Because they have the time and energy and spend all day thinking critically about things. They don't have to worry about feeding a family or losing a job. Things that are going on now will affect their lives more greatly than someone who's already retired.
All these students are naive, they should go to America to experience how bad the democracy system is, there is no such things as one people one vote in America, all the US leaders is not chosen by the people, but chosen and support by power behind them.
What country are you in that lets you watch and post comments on TH-cam?
do not worry where I post my comments, when British was colonise Hong kong, there is no such things as freedom of speech, let not even talk about one people one vote, the Governor general of HK was appointed by the Queen, and change every 10 years, when Britain hand over Hong Kong to China, then they worry about one people one vote, is this double face and standard.
If I had my choice between Britain picking my sovereign or China picking my sovereign ... well nuff said.
You can only suppress people for so long.. I'm anxious to see how many more people show up next time
Oh, they'll come back.
primoshunter They were mostly kids and unemployed youth. They aren't comming back because they have pissed off the locals, and the locals won't stand to see it destroy their livelyhoods anymore.
Right now, these protests have been morphed into personal attacks against mainland people, there was just a video of a group of these idiots harrassing a mother and her 4 year old daughter into tears. Great example for its cause right? These protests lacked agenda from day one, they were infact hijacked away from its original organisers.
Vicktor L Fuck you five cent
Bird Green truth hurts.
There will be a protest on 9/6 in HK against the controversial extradition bill the government tries to push through that will allow the transfer of fugitives to the mainland. If passed, it will be a huge threat to HK’s judicial independence and it will open the door for political prosecution of activists and speed up the integration of HK and China.
You all are educated? You know wateva you all do won’t change anything, right? What is not da matter of winning or losing, jus to show citizen powerful??? YOU ALL making them sitting back, watching tv, laughing & even plan more & more... What’s da point?! & I strongly say is doesn’t AT ALL police prob cos they jus doing their job. HK police been GREAT enough compare to other countries which use even ‘real weapon’ ..
we live in a global police state
Fight back ,learn from afghanistan resistance .
Man what was it with 2014 with the police world wide and society? It almost felt that it was the year of protest
my heart goes out to all the brave protesters, i wish you all the best of luck in your endeavor!
This is exactly what happens when people protest in America.
Democracy.. where are you now?
Democracy would have shoot you all in the US. Cops do not allow , anyone, to offende the police!
@@dragonfly1929 We constantly offend the police in America and most of our protests end with nobody on either side being hurt. Also, one of the cool things about living under a democratic government is that you can stand up for your rights and liberties without being forced to march on the streets.
do you want this to end up like Ukraine because thats what will happen
Did Hong Kong have democracy under the Brithish rule?
Indeed, Hong Kong was still British long after the idea of empire began to be thought of as something very negative.
But there is something very strange about what the British did with Hong Kong, or rather what the British did not do. That is, for the longest time Great Britain never attempted to introduce democracy to Hong Kong. In the end, Hong Kong never did became a democracy under Great Britain. It is surprising I know.
Well historical evidence indicates that Britain once attempted to give democracy to Hong Kong, but was threatened by China to withdraw the idea with the PLA to crush at Hong Kong.
But anyways as Britain did a relatively good job in establishing the freedom, rule of law and anti-corruption institutions like ICAC and the economic prosperity of Hong Kong, the people of Hong Kong did not clamour for democracy much like today.
Those were the days when the Brits are here, sigh
Daniel Wong
I hope you're ready for your daily dose of Anti-America, Anti-Europe, propaganda by the Chinese govt.
This seems very interesting and all, but I couldnt listen for more than 2 minutes due to the talkers extreme S-pronounciations. They are way too sharp and my ears are hurting now. For the future, you should try using a de-esser program or while recording, try speaking at an angle of the mic, effectively "missing" the mic, rather than straight "at" it. Sorry for being anal, I love VICE, but I just cant watch due to that S-sound.
香港加油
The world fails to produce leaders like they did in the past. If people like MLK, Gandi, and their followers gave up so easily, when things got tough, we would be living in a very different world. All these new movements pops out of no where and gets nothing done, like the whole Umbrella movements, or Occupy Wall Street. To me it seems most of these people are just there to get media attention, and once the media hype goes away, so does the movement. I truly thought it was a good cause, "The Umbrella Movement," but seems like another failure due to lack of strong leadership.
Really tempting to travel there and help.
VeggeMight too bad we can’t introduce them to guns 🤷🏼♂️
Thousand of youngsters like you! TALK only No ACTION. Comes and join the team!!!
At 10:42 when the man comments about the girl interviewed and said gau-wu, meaning shopping I don't entirely understand what the joke is. Can someone help me understand?
Like the Hong kongers are protesting against the mainland China and gou Wu is the mandarin of shopping. People were on the streets protesting and the CE asked the mainland Chinese people to support the shops right, so the protesters used this excuse to protest on the street. Hope this helped
+Leah Pugh The Chief Executive was encouraging people to go to Mong Kok, which was the stage of occupation, right after the "clear stage" finished. Then the "customers" went to Mong Kok and kept protesting by using the name of "gau-wu".
Someone should consider opening an arms smuggling organization to hong-kong. My guess is if they had guns, AT launchers, and AA guns, things would be much different :)
yeah much more violent and turn the situation into a small scale war. besides these guys are too smart to accept your offer
SImon .Chen Too smart? They are still under occupation and their 'intelligence' sure didn't help anything. When you look at other regions in the world:
-Egypt => got rid of its' dictators through violence
- Libya => Got rid of its' leader through violence as well (although lack of leadership created a continued civil war for dominance).
- Tunisia => Got rid of its' leaders and pushed for reform with violent protests.
- Cuba => Same story...
When there is a will to fight, there come results. The land belongs only to the one who is willing to fight for it, and if Hong-Kong residents are not willing to fight, they will NEVER get true freedom.
Leon Campa results? yes they got rid of one dictator but what stops another one from coming in? if im not wrong most of the countries you mentioned have became a war zone especially Libya. violence simply tears the country into pieces. Darkness cannot drive out Darkness only light can do that, Violence cannot drive out Violence only love can do that
New_PoV Which why I said organization and leadership is important. The protesters need to elect a leader of their own, even if it is not recognized by the party running the government, and announce that they name them as their interim leader until they gain the full right to democracy
Leon Campa nothing wrong with standing up I'm just saying violence isn't the way
IF you want to fight, all china needs to stand up to change the government. not only HK.
Never give up the fight
They got the good treatment. Try shutting down the streets in Manhattan, they wont last more than a few hours.
i believe hong kong will rise again and this time they will kick the govenment ass
Knew it would be a defeat and it truly is. But it is not useless, hopeless. At least it shows that freedom, independence and democracy are still valued by people.
Imagine having a communism Bay Area.
Best way out of this is to hold a national referendum.
Sounds very Catalan. Mainland China would just send in their own people to vote
I'm so proud of the Hong Kong protesters. Remember Teanimen square 7 thousand people are still missing and the tank guy gone. The only way out of socialism is "in front of the gun or behind it".
Glen Mcculley authoritarianism
They didn't select the British governors either. Hypocrites.
Theres a reason people fled to other countries during the handover
You put up a good fight for freedom Hong Kong. Respect!
Dante Dante you mistaken a thousand students with the majority of Hong Kongers, the locals were fed up with protesters occupying the streets.
failed ,hahaha loser
What respect. They are demonstrating and disobeyed the laws! They should be taught a hard lesson. I respect the police. This hong kong people are given too much priviledge and they are going overboard!
@@hunkhengloh3487 Haven't you watch the video? You are such a heartless person. Disrupting law and order is what you can think of? It goes even deeper than that. You are the one that should be given a hard lesson of education on humanity.
O Liberté, que de crimes on commet en ton nom! (Oh Liberty, what crimes are committed in thy name!)
0:22 One might suggest that what the police are fighting for is Chinese martial tradition, believing in Guan Yu , that wealth arises from wisdom and war. At least the people of HK feel no great need to establish a bastion of their own, within which they may become trapped, by way of murder group circuiting (aka as uniting, or joining together in a halo). May their wisdom be of longevity of purpose, as opposed to futility of endeavour.