Hey Mark, I get a lot out of your videos when the subject is you as a trainee. There are these inside tips that come out, like tricking your brain or working around your injuries or the way you are changing up the exercise every 2 minutes rather than going with only long cycle so you can get through it. I find this perspective really helpful.
Hello Mark, i am also doing marathoning, but i am alternating differently. 1 Rep for me is Snatch - High-Pull - Clean - Press - Overhead Squat - Swing to change Hand What do you think about this?
Try doing 20 minutes of continuous Turkish get-ups, as per Coach’s suggestion many months ago (start at 10 minutes, add a minute each week). Or, just stick pins in your eyes, whichever seems less painful. Up to 16 minutes with 16kg bell - the worst day of my week
Hi Mark . Im new to Kettlebells and would greatly appreciate your advise. When you say marathoning could you define the rep range you would consider a reasonable pace per minute for your 12 minute cycle
The reps will change depending on the technique you are performing during that minute. This will also change person to person, weight used and how long you've been marathoning. Mark has mentioned in previous videos what reps you should expect per minute per technique. One of the main goals of the marathon is just to move the bell for the whole time. A good way to start is run some EMOM workouts for specific techniques (like clean and press) and see what a reasonable rep range is for you, taking in account there are not breaks in the marathon. I could do around 15-16 reps of C+P for my lighter weight, but if I kept that pace in a marathon I would die.
13 RPM for Long Cycle, 18 RPM for 1/2 Snatch, 20 RPM for Snatch and Jerk. These are max scorable paces in International Kettlebell Marathon lifting. You could go faster, but will get no additional points; the discipline wanted to ensure there was no reason to rush fixation, because it becomes very difficult to judge/ score when it becomes a sprint. Some of us that do this for sport will exceed these rep ranges slightly in training, so that we are more prepared than the challenges we will face in competitions. There are very skilled and experienced lifters that can easily exceed these ranges with good fixation, but they are directed to lift heavier weight rather than exceed the pace. Marathon is scored on a coefficient, and heavier scores better.
13 RPM for Long Cycle, 18 RPM for 1/2 Snatch, 20 RPM for Snatch and Jerk. These are max scorable paces in International Kettlebell Marathon lifting. You could go faster, but will get no additional points; the discipline wanted to ensure there was no reason to rush fixation, because it becomes very difficult to judge/ score when it becomes a sprint. Some of us that do this for sport will exceed these rep ranges slightly in training, so that we are more prepared than the challenges we will face in competitions. There are very skilled and experienced lifters that can easily exceed these ranges with good fixation, but they are directed to lift heavier weight rather than exceed the pace. Marathon is scored on a coefficient, and heavier scores better.
Ok Mark. Sorry sometimes I’m a little slow. Soooo with let’s say 21k. Your doing 12 minutes of clean & press, and switching arms each minute. Did I get that right?
Yes, what Matthew said. You would find several other types of exercises (A, B, C, etc) and the run is like min 1: A (left) min 2: A (right) min 3: Long Cycle L min 4: Long Cycle R min 5: B L min 6: B R min 7: LC L min 8: LC R ... So basically each extra exercise (other than long cycle) accounts for 4 minutes total.
Frank Cuccia these weights are off though. So I'm guessing if you have the standard KB weights range, you just go down or up to the closest weight and work your way up to doing the workout. Is that right?
@@TheAccidentalTroubadour Basically. You want to start with a fairly light weight. As he stated, less than 50% of your clean and press weight. I think he may have said "heavy" clean and press weight too. If your access of weights are limited, I would start out with the lowest you have and plan maybe a 6 or 8 minute marathon and go from there. Your workouts can increase by either 2 or 4 minutes and after you reach a certain time, let's say around 20 minutes, you can start a new weight at the 6 minute mark again and run that simultaneously. You will then build up from there. Your access to different weights will very much determine how you go about this program. The weights he lists here are just those intermediate weights he can get to with his adjustable KB.
My goal is to do an entire Joe Rogan podcast which is usually about three hours with a kettle bell Full marathon session. And then I’m gonna try the same thing with both a club and a mace .Each done by them self one at a time On different days of course .I think that would prove some really awesome strength and endurance.
That could be over 3 hours, thats a little too insane or :) but who knows, few months ago it Was impossible to Thing of doing a lot of 5kg single handed mace 360s, now i can Do easy for half an hour until i get bored
Today I start the 10,000 swing challenge which will dominate my training schedule for this month. After that I will finally start implementing the marathon into my weekly prorgam.
Can someone clarify: 1min kb jerk, 1 min something else, 1 min kb jerk,... what are the other exercises? Is it me or is there no way this can include TGUs?
1 min kb jerk left hand, 1 min kb jerk right hand, 1 min exercise A left hand, 1 min exercise A right hand, and continue on from there. A TGU would not be the best in this scenario, though if you do a Turkish Get Down, you might be able to get two in each side before the minute is up. On an earlier video he mentioned when he was working on his marathon training he put out a lot of clean variation videos, because that is what he used to fill in the exercise spaces. Look back and see what he posted. If you think about it, including the long cycle for each hand, every exercise you pick will cover 4 minutes.
@@cucciafr68 it is crazy, but I automatically think of turkish get down instead of tgu so I can switch hands between, I forget that I do them ‘backwards’
In marathon competition, it is all a single lift. I have competed in half marathons for One Arm Long Cycle, and Snatch. In competition, it's all that single lift, with unlimited hand switches. Obviously, in training you can mix up the movements. I'm currently coming out of some injuries, so to groove my body back in, I'm doing 1 min per side of OALC, and then 1 min per side of snatch, and alternating for 30 minutes straight, just to restore mobility and movement patterns. If you are using marathoning as a workout/ training, and are not planning to compete, alternating 2 different lifts is much more pleasant. Doing a single lift is a serious challenge of both form and mental and physical resilience; it is much more difficult.
Can anyone help me? I’m confused about the ‘don’t put the bell down’. A) is a marathon ‘a minute on, a minute off’? B) and if so, are you able to put the bell down during the minute off?
You never put the bell down in any type of competition kb that I know. Half Marathoning is 30 min with out the bell touching the ground. Marathon is 60 min with the bell not touching the ground.
The difference between marathon and regular KB sport is that you must complete the set in marathon. If you put the bell down prior to the end of a 5 or 10 minute kettlebell event, your Score is The Number of reps you did. If you put the bell down in a marathon before the time elapses, your score is zero. You have to Finish
I take notes from your vids and I realized today that I finished 1 whole notebook! You should consider writing kettlebell books. Cheers
Same. I'm not quite at a notebook full yet though.
Agreed !!!
Yup same, except my notebook is a google docs with tons of pages 😂
Hey Mark, I get a lot out of your videos when the subject is you as a trainee. There are these inside tips that come out, like tricking your brain or working around your injuries or the way you are changing up the exercise every 2 minutes rather than going with only long cycle so you can get through it. I find this perspective really helpful.
I’ll make more then
@@MarkWildman please do. it really helps!
Hello Mark, i am also doing marathoning, but i am alternating differently. 1 Rep for me is Snatch - High-Pull - Clean - Press - Overhead Squat - Swing to change Hand
What do you think about this?
Is there a pause between your clean, press?
Try doing 20 minutes of continuous Turkish get-ups, as per Coach’s suggestion many months ago (start at 10 minutes, add a minute each week). Or, just stick pins in your eyes, whichever seems less painful. Up to 16 minutes with 16kg bell - the worst day of my week
I think I've done 10 minutes continuous TGDs with a 16kg once. It was not fun. That's awesome you got to 16 minutes.
if you like doing swings, you can now try to do simple & sinister ;)
Hi Mark . Im new to Kettlebells and would greatly appreciate your advise. When you say marathoning could you define the rep range you would consider a reasonable
pace per minute for your 12 minute cycle
The reps will change depending on the technique you are performing during that minute. This will also change person to person, weight used and how long you've been marathoning. Mark has mentioned in previous videos what reps you should expect per minute per technique. One of the main goals of the marathon is just to move the bell for the whole time. A good way to start is run some EMOM workouts for specific techniques (like clean and press) and see what a reasonable rep range is for you, taking in account there are not breaks in the marathon. I could do around 15-16 reps of C+P for my lighter weight, but if I kept that pace in a marathon I would die.
13 RPM for Long Cycle, 18 RPM for 1/2 Snatch, 20 RPM for Snatch and Jerk. These are max scorable paces in International Kettlebell Marathon lifting. You could go faster, but will get no additional points; the discipline wanted to ensure there was no reason to rush fixation, because it becomes very difficult to judge/ score when it becomes a sprint. Some of us that do this for sport will exceed these rep ranges slightly in training, so that we are more prepared than the challenges we will face in competitions. There are very skilled and experienced lifters that can easily exceed these ranges with good fixation, but they are directed to lift heavier weight rather than exceed the pace. Marathon is scored on a coefficient, and heavier scores better.
Thank you, this is really helpful and inspirational!
What would the typical cadence be per minute? Is it a super slow tempo?
Long cycle is 13/min. Or slightly slower
Everything else has its own speed
13 RPM for Long Cycle, 18 RPM for 1/2 Snatch, 20 RPM for Snatch and Jerk. These are max scorable paces in International Kettlebell Marathon lifting. You could go faster, but will get no additional points; the discipline wanted to ensure there was no reason to rush fixation, because it becomes very difficult to judge/ score when it becomes a sprint. Some of us that do this for sport will exceed these rep ranges slightly in training, so that we are more prepared than the challenges we will face in competitions. There are very skilled and experienced lifters that can easily exceed these ranges with good fixation, but they are directed to lift heavier weight rather than exceed the pace. Marathon is scored on a coefficient, and heavier scores better.
@@mikelasnier1121 thanks mike.
@@mikelasnier1121 thank you for your detailed reply to the other posters question. I learned a lot and appreciate it.
@ 6:43 did you mean Long Cycle minute 7 & 8 instead of 6 & 7 cause you said 6 twice. Also how many reps each EMOM for the Long cycle do you do?
Looking for 13 reps of long cycle per min
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My friend is a dancer from there
So many plans Mark !!?. Good thing you're 22 bro ;) !!!!!
Ok Mark. Sorry sometimes I’m a little slow. Soooo with let’s say 21k. Your doing 12 minutes of clean & press, and switching arms each minute. Did I get that right?
At 6:30 he explains that he alternates between C&J, and another exercise, every 2 min
Yes, what Matthew said. You would find several other types of exercises (A, B, C, etc) and the run is like
min 1: A (left)
min 2: A (right)
min 3: Long Cycle L
min 4: Long Cycle R
min 5: B L
min 6: B R
min 7: LC L
min 8: LC R
...
So basically each extra exercise (other than long cycle) accounts for 4 minutes total.
Frank Cuccia these weights are off though. So I'm guessing if you have the standard KB weights range, you just go down or up to the closest weight and work your way up to doing the workout. Is that right?
@@TheAccidentalTroubadour Basically. You want to start with a fairly light weight. As he stated, less than 50% of your clean and press weight. I think he may have said "heavy" clean and press weight too. If your access of weights are limited, I would start out with the lowest you have and plan maybe a 6 or 8 minute marathon and go from there. Your workouts can increase by either 2 or 4 minutes and after you reach a certain time, let's say around 20 minutes, you can start a new weight at the 6 minute mark again and run that simultaneously. You will then build up from there. Your access to different weights will very much determine how you go about this program. The weights he lists here are just those intermediate weights he can get to with his adjustable KB.
What jacket is that? It looks sweet.
One I made from an East German surplus shirt I found for 5$ at a thrift shop
My goal is to do an entire Joe Rogan podcast which is usually about three hours with a kettle bell Full marathon session. And then I’m gonna try the same thing with both a club and a mace .Each done by them self one at a time On different days of course .I think that would prove some really awesome strength and endurance.
That could be over 3 hours, thats a little too insane or :) but who knows, few months ago it Was impossible to Thing of doing a lot of 5kg single handed mace 360s, now i can Do easy for half an hour until i get bored
That’s some kind of ultra
Are there Kettlebells with these odd weights? Never have seen anywhere 21k or 23k etc...
He explains it in the video twice.
Off topic: are you a fan of OMAD?
I am
@@MarkWildman thank you 🙏
Let's GOOOOOOOOO
Today I start the 10,000 swing challenge which will dominate my training schedule for this month. After that I will finally start implementing the marathon into my weekly prorgam.
Beautiful goal. Not there yet but a delicious destination.
@@TheAccidentalTroubadour Yea, I'm really curious how this will turn out. It's not called a "challenge" for no reason.
Combine them. Since every clean is a swing, and every snatch is a swing, they count. Clean and jerk includes a swing. Snatch includes a swing.
Can someone clarify: 1min kb jerk, 1 min something else, 1 min kb jerk,... what are the other exercises? Is it me or is there no way this can include TGUs?
1 min kb jerk left hand, 1 min kb jerk right hand, 1 min exercise A left hand, 1 min exercise A right hand, and continue on from there. A TGU would not be the best in this scenario, though if you do a Turkish Get Down, you might be able to get two in each side before the minute is up. On an earlier video he mentioned when he was working on his marathon training he put out a lot of clean variation videos, because that is what he used to fill in the exercise spaces. Look back and see what he posted. If you think about it, including the long cycle for each hand, every exercise you pick will cover 4 minutes.
@@cucciafr68 it is crazy, but I automatically think of turkish get down instead of tgu so I can switch hands between, I forget that I do them ‘backwards’
@@suncard19 Yea, I haven't done a getup in a long time. I always do the get downs. Changing at the top is so much smoother than at the bottom.
@@cucciafr68 absolutely
In marathon competition, it is all a single lift. I have competed in half marathons for One Arm Long Cycle, and Snatch. In competition, it's all that single lift, with unlimited hand switches. Obviously, in training you can mix up the movements. I'm currently coming out of some injuries, so to groove my body back in, I'm doing 1 min per side of OALC, and then 1 min per side of snatch, and alternating for 30 minutes straight, just to restore mobility and movement patterns. If you are using marathoning as a workout/ training, and are not planning to compete, alternating 2 different lifts is much more pleasant. Doing a single lift is a serious challenge of both form and mental and physical resilience; it is much more difficult.
Can anyone help me?
I’m confused about the ‘don’t put the bell down’.
A) is a marathon ‘a minute on, a minute off’?
B) and if so, are you able to put the bell down during the minute off?
You never put the bell down in any type of competition kb that I know. Half Marathoning is 30 min with out the bell touching the ground. Marathon is 60 min with the bell not touching the ground.
@@MarkWildman thanks you, Mark.
The difference between marathon and regular KB sport is that you must complete the set in marathon. If you put the bell down prior to the end of a 5 or 10 minute kettlebell event, your Score is The Number of reps you did. If you put the bell down in a marathon before the time elapses, your score is zero. You have to Finish
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On the ranch
How can you trick your brain when your brain knows you're tricking it ?
Go through the motions regardless.
What utebe said
@@MarkWildman *Gives self high five*
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