The main service the lock picking hobby community provides is education on how secure any particular lock truly is. People put far too much faith in them. Secondly, they act as a quality control check on lock manufacturers. Some don't seem to care (ahem... master) but others obviously do look to the locksport community for information on how tough their products are and how to make them better in future.
@@stoutlager6325 what!? ... theres a 'locksport' community? Really? So theres an Olympics of Locksmiths and Lockpickers? Googling the ass out that right now....
I actually can’t charge less for work at my location _(Taxes, Regulation, and Overhead)_ and not lose money Gregory S Hutchison. But it is a money maker.
@@Kari-tu3fs Would bending the cable really be a bypass? Then, If I were to nitpick, doing a second cut after a successful one could probably also count as a bypass. As the plastic and shielding shackles are more prone to sliding apart. Don't get me wrong, I can appreciate what he is showing here. Not trying to antagonize, just offering a thought. :)
ide use a torch lighter on it and it would melt the plastic if u want also dunk it in water or oil after red hot and it should make the steel brittle af
This was my first thought. My second was that I have some real bolt cutters in the garage that would eat them all alive. I don't even have a lot of tools. I feel that two handed bolt cutters do a job, at speed, that nothing else can do. Don't go without.
@@Kari-tu3fs I'm convinced you're not cutting through the armour here. The stronger you squeeze, the armour elements push against the plastic shielding further down the chains, forcing a gap and exposing the raw wire at the point of the cut. I think that's why subsequent attempts on the same shackle went smoother, not because of a larger tool. My guess is that the key here is the thickness of the plastic shielding which does not allow armour elements to compress. Taking this into account, a valid strategy might be to cut the plastic somewhere along the shackle and then attempt cutting through the armour again.
I don't know, 1 ton really isn't a lot. 50 lbs at 10 inches is 1000 lbs at 1/2 inch from the fulcrum. If you consider the small area which the blade in pushing on, well a petite woman in pointy heels has more ground pressure than a semi truck. I say 50 lbs, I can put out close to 120 with 1 hand, 240 with both. A strong 10 year old can squeeze with 50 lbs.
We can always depend on Master Lock to be #1, too bad it's always on the wrong end of the scale. Perhaps their slogan should be... Master Lock; always the best at being the worst. Or maybe...Master Lock; We're the first in failure.
They can't even get that right as there are plenty cheap Chinese locks pinned so bad you don't need a key or even worse; the ones you can open with a bic lighter.
I don't see what the issue is - Masterlock is great at marketing and are the most recognized name in locks. They don't care about making decent locks, they care about making lots of money.
Stops a child from operating a firearm. I always thought the ONLY use was to protect children. I didn't think anyone seriously considers using these locks for security
The only thing I use mine for is transporting my firearm to the range because it's legally required to be locked. If there were kids in my house I may use it for that too, but there aren't so what isn't in the safe stays loaded and unlocked.
Their only use is to fool politicians and activists; who couldn't even tell you what end of the gun makes the loud noise. Yet insists they know what laws should be in place.
Robert Zimmerman Thankfully some have enough sense to understand that guns have the potential to stop a threat. Arm yourself with wisdom as well as a firearm.
one issue with testing other cutters after the lock has already been cut... the armor plating is held in place by tension and works by the plating not being able to move. Thus making the lock stronger. After it has been cut, the plating just moves away and any cutter will have a LOT easier of a time getting through, seeing as the armor plating is technically out of the equation :) If I'm missing something, let me know ^^
I think it's always important to keep the angle grinder in perspective. Obviously it's not always the right tool, but before I owned one I didn't have a clue that you could literally just cut through any lock
@@lockpickinglawyer I think if you just take it a bit at a time, getting the plastic first, then digging through the layers bit by bit, you could get it relatively quickly with a bit of practice. Especially if you did what someone suggested in the comments and bent the cable very hard to reveal the cable underneath.
The easiest way I've found to break these locks off is to get the shackle snuggled up in a vise flush with the lock body and give it a firm side on whack with a good size hammer. These things are really meant to keep curious adolescents out of trouble more than anything else.
Have you ever strained a muscle in your hand doing that? I have, it's no fun. I also have a pair of linesman pliers like that, older than yours. ( the plastic is more brittle) Uline makes a cutter for the wire cable security locks that go on the doors of transport containers. They are VERY good.
For the mini bolt cutters if I may reccomend knipex in the future. I'm a mechanic by trade and as far as any type of pylers go knipex makes a superior product even to snap on in most cases. I really enjoy your videos. Thank you!
@@MoundN That druggie breaking into your house? He's off his rocker on PCP, and he ain't going down without a .45 through his chest. Rabid animal? That thing is going to kill you or your child if you dont shoot it *now* Firearms, because when you have seconds, the police are only minutes away.
@@Mr-Trox Mr. Trox I don't know. It's something that I simply don't emphatize with that easily as someone whos not born in america I think. I do get your points but I also know about the damage such easy gunlaws can cause. I mean, I live in a society were its completely normal to live without guns and Im feeling completely safe. Never have I ever heard someone say they feel unsafe because they cannot carry a gun. It's completely normal here in Germany. For the case about the rabid animal a simple knife could do just aswell ontop of that how many rabid animals are there really that you need to worry about ur children? Things like that would entise me to move away from that location. It's not always possible i know but then again you do what you gotta do. Either way I see the benefits but i also see the enormous drawbacks of those easy gunlaws and I'm generally a person who doesn't support gun ownage in any way unless its due to military. Just how I feel tho, might be due to cultural differences.
@@MoundN Yeah, definitely cultural differences. Guns are part of life in America. Law abiding citizens losing their rights because of criminals is something most Americans dont take kindly here. It's tied into our cultural patriotism that from I learned from some German transfer students I met in school said they dont really have. As for rabid animals and such, it was an example, and a knife wouldnt do you much good to avoid being scratched or bitten by the animal, which considering it's rabid in this explanation, is something you want to avoid at all costs. Kids around guns isnt as huge a problem as the media would have you believe. I was taught gun safety before I was even allowed to touch a BB gun, let alone a firearm. My niece was taught gun safety before she could read, it's a simple few lessons you give your kids and emphasize that guns *are not toys* they are dangerous tools not to be touched or interacted with without adult supervision.
Funnily enough, I had a key break for one of my Regal locks, and removed it using an identical pair of line cutters! I knew they'd at least get through that one. Great video!
I love how he’s saying he’ll see how tough they are, then holds up a precut chunk to display the construction. It’s like when someone in the theater shouts out the ending of the movie 5 minutes in.
Gun locks are primarily intended to prevent children from accidentally discharging a firearm and harming themselves or others. Children would not have the tools or knowledge to get through even the thinnest gun locks on the market.
the fact that he says he's gonna stop at the mini bolt cutter before he even begins tells me a $20 tool will defeat the lock that came with my $600 pistol
I've broken my own locks after losing my keys. I used a method similar to the wrench method except I replaced the second wrench with locking pliers and simply pried up. It worked for Kimber, S&W, Glock, police issue, and a very expensive one I bought at a show. Keep track of your keys!
Bike cable locks are a wimpy joke. Thick ones, skinny ones, fancy name brands... Cable locks aren't going to keep your bike unless you live in a low crime area. Manufacturers make them because people buy them. Bike shops sell them because people buy them. I've worked in plenty of bike shops for long enough and people will ask for a cable. I'll tell them that if you want to keep your bike get the $40+ U lock. Customers proceed to buy crappy cable lock. Then they'll be back in the bike shop a few months later to buy another bike after the cable lock was cut. I've probably experienced this scenario nearly 50 times. It is what it is.
@@mikekrasovec6390 Sadly true, I lost a nice bike parked right in the middle of my uni campus (outside the main library) in broad daylight. I'll never know if they bypassed/picked the cheap lock or just cut the cable, but whatever it was it must have been fast. Lesson learnt.
I tend to use a Kryptonite lock if I ever have to leave my bike anywhere, but it would be nice to have a high quality cable lock so I don't have to carry a 2kg lock around when I know the only time I'll be leaving my bike alone is outside of a coffee shop where I can see it the whole time but can't bring it in with me.
The key with attacking these quickly is to remove the plastic cover that holds the scales together, and getting to the wire in between. It is not good quality, and it is never braided. You can get through it with a hacksaw.
Whenever i have to cut one of those POS locks i just bend the cable and then cut it. The scales move out of the way and all thats left is the rubber and twisted wires
When I hauled high value freight, cable seals were common security. I once had to remove a seal for a customer who had no means to do so. It took me 90sec to remove two 1/4" cables with a residential grade hacksaw!
The reason why the "Kleins" (the linesman's pliers) did so well is that they have a pin which is offset closer to the jaws of the pliers. You can see the placement of the pin on the Kleins @2:07. This gives you a lot more leverage. The needlenose and sidecutters have there pin in the center.
honestly, I haven't purchased a gun because of my two young boys. I can't express how scared I am of them getting hurt by something I brought in to the home. This project lock greatly increases my confidence. thank you LPL!!!
The responsibility that comes with being a father and husband is the number one reason to not just buy a weapon but learn it and teach it to the family you protect.
If you have the firearm and it is not connected to any stationary item preventing portability, try placing the linesman's pliers in a vise to provide additional force. I think you will be pleased with the result. I have used this method on other more conventional items. Keep up the great work! Thank you for sharing.
electrical cable shears actually are to some degree able to cut things harder than copper or aluminium, because they also need to be able to cut ground cable, usually armored with galvanized swa steel. Which is relatively soft but i suppose harder than aluminium and copper. These steel cable shears are way different from cable shears, they use a huge leverage, a small cable wouldn't even fit in and an electrical cable shear would not have enough leverage to cut steel cable.
I can easily cut any of those locks with my dedicated Swage Tool , it's meant for cutting cable and crimping Alum Ferals , I've made better cables for locking up guns than any these lock companies can come up with . If you buy a $1000 plus firearm why the hell would you use a $10 lock to protect it ?
Great video. Number 4 (sig sauer) was really binding :D I love the cable cutters and use them to cut everything. I have a a 2 foot long set that can fit about and inch diameter... they will CHOP in half nearly anything you put in them.
My thougts on a decent use for the Sig Sauer would be to lock a bike seat to the frame of the bike. They are easy enough to replace, but it'll provide some sense of a barrier from it's theft. Then lock the bike with a 2-3 choice locks.... Wheels to frame with Forgetaboutit U-locks, and a nice thick chain to secure the frame to whatever it is you're securing the bike to.
I'm amazed at how many people don't understand there's literally a tool for everything. Bolt cutters work very well at cutting through things like... locks. You can even get them in ratchet-form. Also, use leverage, i.e. put one handle on a stable surface
I love your big pliers - old and hefty. Nice colorful locks and very interesting testing sequence. But I have a question regarding the cable armor. What if you bent the cable, would the wire protrude and is this then any easier to cut or saw through? Once I had a bicycle lock where this worked out pretty good th-cam.com/video/LwuSB725wks/w-d-xo.html
Those big pliers are very old and better than any modern counterpart I've ever seen. As for the armor, IF you could get the cutters between the links, it would help quite a bit. but here, that didn't seem possible. I did some testing and cutting of one apart first and wasn't able to execute.
LockPickingLawyer the brand your looking at is called klein. Klein is still available made in the usa and high quality. You can get them at home depot. You do pay extra for klein tools though. Quality is not cheap.
I'd go for Knipex for linesmen's pliers if you're going to be putting them through heavy use. They're more expensive than Klein, but better built. Get ones with nice handles to avoid hurting your hands when you give them a really good squeeze.
You could certainly bypass the armour with some work. However their strategy seems to be that it would take longer to bypass the armour than it would to cut through it. Peeling the plastic off and shuffling links about to make a gap seems like a lot of work when the correct tool could get through in seconds. Sad that they're actually planning on the lock being defeated in seconds to minutes but there we go. As for tools, I'm split between two minds. I've got a large set of my grandfather's old tools and they certainly made them good and proper, but at the same time metallurgy and manufacturing has also improved. The prices have come down and the designs are better. If they stopped trying to cut every corner and make it to the bare minimum cost modern tools would stomp older ones, but until they fix the industry I'm going to keep my ancient set and clean off the rust any time I need to use them.
I think what's happening is you're applying enough force to stretch the cable and slip down through the armour plates, snipping the little baby cables.
Once you cut the first lock you can use the gun to remove the rest of the locks. Nice work on the wide selection of tools to break the cable. If you still have the lock bodies I'd be curious to see you wedge the lock against a solid backer with a chunk of wood and hit it with a hammer, (improvised attack in a somewhat confined way as if the gun was still attached). I suspect that even with a half hearted strike or two with a 20 oz hammer the lock would come apart. Even if you have tossed those locks I'm sure you have a few laying around, (I have a whole shoe box of the useless things and have a hard time just throwing them away).
+John-Paul Silke The lock bodies are surprisingly robust. And the locking mechanism's are solid. You certainly could open it with a hammer, but you would probably do some damage to whatever it was locked to.
I've opened one with just a screwdriver. Pop the hull in a vice and use the screwdriver as a lever through the loop, and twist the cable until it's so tight that it sheers the cable. Took minimum effort to free the Glock box the lock was attached to (opened for original owner who showed a receipt with the same serial number on the gun).
These locks are not suppose to keep adults from accessing the firearm they are to keep children out as well as accidental discharge. Children rarely walk around with bolt cutters.
@@dedley2664 - I looked around and found 12 pin locks and even a 22 pin lock. My best guess has to do with the the Key. The key has to be able to interact with each pin, which means a bigger and/or longer key for every pin. 6 pins is a very common choice because 3 pins is less secure I'm guessing.
Back in middle school we had a gun safety event. They passed out free gun locks to all the students to take home. They were about as thin as that master lock one.
Try Klein cutters/snips also know as wire cutters. They cut cable like butter. Klein tools are outstanding. Less effort and force to cut. Just a thought.
Ryan Quirk electricians cutters like the kleins have unhardened steel as they are designed for cutting copper and aluminum conductors not steel it will dick up the cutting edges.
Obviously, cutting an already cut cable is easier, since it is easier to spread the armor beads apart. Which means that only the first cut is the real test.
Lockpickinglawyer, this video serves as an example to those of us who are firearms collectors and owners that there are only 2 forms of security that work: 1st and most obvious is having the firearm under your direct control (in hand, holstered, etc.) And for weapons not under the owner's direct control, the 2nd security measure is to use multiple security measures to secure one's weapons. I use cable locks in each firearm (except Ruger®️™️ which use a Regal®️™️ padlock designed to fit the specific firearm), a thick security cable which runs through each weapon then out the back of the security cabinet and through the wall and secured out of sight, and all weapons are stored in a cabinet that is bolted to the concrete basement floor, and the security cabinet is installed in a closet with all spare space filled with sheetrock, and finally, I replaced the closet door with a fireproof steel door and frame bought at an auction for a whole lot less than a new closet door. As the legal owner of a unique selection of modern firearms, I felt compelled to safeguard these weapons from criminals and unauthorized adolescents. No security system is foolproof, but I designed mine to keep the interloper working long enough to get the police on scene long before entry is gained. Of course, the final security measure in place is our AT&T Digital Life security system with motion sensors in my little armory and door sensors on all exterior doors and windows plus the armory door and safe closet, glass break sensors in interior rooms and cameras to visually check inside and outside. It sounds like a lot but my "armory" room and closet were really easy and inexpensive to set up, especially after realizing that the majority of firearms safes are a waste of money and provide no more protection than a properly installed firearms cabinet.
Put one of the handles against some surface then you can put alot of weight on the other handle pressing down you can basically put your whole weight on it. You get ALOT more force that way
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I thought he was gonna become the 4 fingered lock picking lawyer a couple times.
He had his fingers super close to the pliers 😂
same i was so anxious how close he had his fingers
why not 9 fingered lpl?
Don't worry, he has nimble fingers!
one slip...
i can never decide if you are teaching us how to be secure, or teaching us how to better rob things XD
The main service the lock picking hobby community provides is education on how secure any particular lock truly is. People put far too much faith in them. Secondly, they act as a quality control check on lock manufacturers. Some don't seem to care (ahem... master) but others obviously do look to the locksport community for information on how tough their products are and how to make them better in future.
@@stoutlager6325 he's still showing Union quick ways to defeat locks that many people use this is definitely useful information for some criminals
LPL: "yes"
His day job is as lawyer. He does need some work coming his way after all
@@stoutlager6325 what!? ... theres a 'locksport' community? Really? So theres an Olympics of Locksmiths and Lockpickers? Googling the ass out that right now....
I am a Professional Gunsmith I charge $5.00 tax included to remove the lock when you lose the key.
That should tell you what a joke they are.
It’s hilarious that people take the gun to you for this “service.”
David Grover $5 for 5 seconds of work, not a bad deal.
Since I hate gun locks it is also personally rewarding LockPickingLawyer.
I actually can’t charge less for work at my location _(Taxes, Regulation, and Overhead)_ and not lose money Gregory S Hutchison.
But it is a money maker.
Wait wait wait wait....they bring you their firearm...to get those cheapo locks off?....if I lost the keys I’d cut it and cut my losses.
That's pretty crazy how much difference making the cables a little thicker was.
The difference between the Master and the sig locks was pretty substantial... not just a little.
It is amazing for someone that is so skilled at using small tools and picks, how everytime he uses bigger tools I feel he is going to loose a finger.
fold the cable at a hard angle to open a gap in the shielding, then you're only cutting the inner cable
Oneofdazzz the point of this is to brute force, not bypass. The plastic as weak as it is, is still protection.
@@Kari-tu3fs Would bending the cable really be a bypass?
Then, If I were to nitpick, doing a second cut after a successful one could probably also count as a bypass. As the plastic and shielding shackles are more prone to sliding apart.
Don't get me wrong, I can appreciate what he is showing here. Not trying to antagonize, just offering a thought. :)
ide use a torch lighter on it and it would melt the plastic if u want also dunk it in water or oil after red hot and it should make the steel brittle af
This was my first thought. My second was that I have some real bolt cutters in the garage that would eat them all alive. I don't even have a lot of tools. I feel that two handed bolt cutters do a job, at speed, that nothing else can do. Don't go without.
@@Kari-tu3fs I'm convinced you're not cutting through the armour here. The stronger you squeeze, the armour elements push against the plastic shielding further down the chains, forcing a gap and exposing the raw wire at the point of the cut. I think that's why subsequent attempts on the same shackle went smoother, not because of a larger tool. My guess is that the key here is the thickness of the plastic shielding which does not allow armour elements to compress. Taking this into account, a valid strategy might be to cut the plastic somewhere along the shackle and then attempt cutting through the armour again.
A "ton of pressure?" Pretty strong hands!!
Indeed. :-D
Amos Soma Presumably after the lever effect of the tool. But still few tools actually gear hand force up to 1 ton of force (9.8kN).
I don't know, 1 ton really isn't a lot. 50 lbs at 10 inches is 1000 lbs at 1/2 inch from the fulcrum. If you consider the small area which the blade in pushing on, well a petite woman in pointy heels has more ground pressure than a semi truck.
I say 50 lbs, I can put out close to 120 with 1 hand, 240 with both. A strong 10 year old can squeeze with 50 lbs.
Give me enough leverage and Ill lift the Earth. Ton is nothing, a metric ton however.
@@iare19 or a crap ton
We can always depend on Master Lock to be #1, too bad it's always on the wrong end of the scale. Perhaps their slogan should be... Master Lock; always the best at being the worst. Or maybe...Master Lock; We're the first in failure.
They can't even get that right as there are plenty cheap Chinese locks pinned so bad you don't need a key or even worse; the ones you can open with a bic lighter.
LOL... they do have some products that are constantly in a dogfight for last place... but the Chinese always seem to beat them out.
I don't see what the issue is - Masterlock is great at marketing and are the most recognized name in locks. They don't care about making decent locks, they care about making lots of money.
Bolt cutters would absolutely destroy a master lock though
Masters of being the worst
Stops a child from operating a firearm. I always thought the ONLY use was to protect children. I didn't think anyone seriously considers using these locks for security
I use a regal lock to secure my PC. Better than nothing.
The only thing I use mine for is transporting my firearm to the range because it's legally required to be locked. If there were kids in my house I may use it for that too, but there aren't so what isn't in the safe stays loaded and unlocked.
Their only use is to fool politicians and activists; who couldn't even tell you what end of the gun makes the loud noise. Yet insists they know what laws should be in place.
The line I've heard is that it's those that know the least want to make all the rules.
Robert Zimmerman Thankfully some have enough sense to understand that guns have the potential to stop a threat. Arm yourself with wisdom as well as a firearm.
Conclusion: the tool designed to cut cables where the best at cutting cables. What a surprise!
shame then that locks where designed to lock and secure which they do not, as no different from a piece of string and a knot
Actually, all those were designed to cut cables, just not as the primary function.
lol
@@pqrstzxerty1296 they're designed to keep kids out a kid's not going to be able to cut this very easily
@@pqrstzxerty1296 If you really thought that then you are exactly why LPL made these videos
one issue with testing other cutters after the lock has already been cut... the armor plating is held in place by tension and works by the plating not being able to move. Thus making the lock stronger. After it has been cut, the plating just moves away and any cutter will have a LOT easier of a time getting through, seeing as the armor plating is technically out of the equation :)
If I'm missing something, let me know ^^
buy him 6 of each lock and he can do the same test over for ya.
I think it's always important to keep the angle grinder in perspective. Obviously it's not always the right tool, but before I owned one I didn't have a clue that you could literally just cut through any lock
genuinely surprised by those locks. I thought they would yield sooner
Judging from the comments on my other videos, you are not alone. These shackles exceeded my (very low) expectations.
@@lockpickinglawyer why are bike cable locks, which are a lot thicker, vulnerable to side cutters though?
New playlist: Master Lock is pathetic
erg0centric k sure
Been loving this gun series. Never expecting anything less than greatness from you :).
Thanks... glad to see you. Hope all is well with you and your family.
For the price of a Sig it better come with the best
My SIG came with a piece of Chinese junk.
Bring out the jaws of life for the next video
+Patrick need bigger locks!
sargent and greenleaf? :)
Jaws of life: Bolt cutters for any situation.
“Hm my dad locked his gun up and I wanna play with it... I know i’ll grab the jaws of life from the toolbox to open it”
I always purposely buy the thinnest cable locks possible so if I lose the key or combination my tin snips will do the job in half a second 😂
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@@Speed001...
5:51 Sounds like when minecraft pickaxe breaks lol
Lmao
Those linesman's plier really have seen a real work, judging by their look.
They have -- older than me by a few decades at least.
so to summarize:
if you wanna cut cables, use cable cutters
I almost bet you could have cut through that master cable with some time and those needle nose pliers... it looked like it was actually getting a bite
Anything's possible if you sit there are chew at it for a half hour... I will not say it's not possible, only that it would be a royal PITA.
@@lockpickinglawyer I think if you just take it a bit at a time, getting the plastic first, then digging through the layers bit by bit, you could get it relatively quickly with a bit of practice. Especially if you did what someone suggested in the comments and bent the cable very hard to reveal the cable underneath.
why am I watching this, I don't even have a gun! oh, I know, it is be cause of LPL's smooth calm sympathetic voice
A gun is a worthwhile investment, just like a good lock, or lockpicking set.
Isn't that a good thing?
The easiest way I've found to break these locks off is to get the shackle snuggled up in a vise flush with the lock body and give it a firm side on whack with a good size hammer. These things are really meant to keep curious adolescents out of trouble more than anything else.
Have you ever strained a muscle in your hand doing that? I have, it's no fun. I also have a pair of linesman pliers like that, older than yours. ( the plastic is more brittle)
Uline makes a cutter for the wire cable security locks that go on the doors of transport containers. They are VERY good.
No... never strained a hand. I'll take a look at the uline product... always looking for new tools! :-)
There are no muscles in your hand.
Lankey Bastard did you just say there are no muscles in a hand
yeah I did. Eat my shit. LMAO
True I read that once
I've always treated these locks as an empty chamber indicator than a security device.
Why the hell am I so glued to this lock picking channel?
I cut 3/8" steel cable on ACSR all day long with my linesmen. Love your work!
For the mini bolt cutters if I may reccomend knipex in the future. I'm a mechanic by trade and as far as any type of pylers go knipex makes a superior product even to snap on in most cases. I really enjoy your videos. Thank you!
Those are actually stronger than I thought.
The Knipex Mini Bolt Cutters are incredible with their leverage and cutting blades. I've had a pair for years and they take care of most things.
That diss at masterlock towards the end really brought it all together
That's cool how you progressed with different strength cutters. I didn't expect to see that.
Thanks.
I have the red one in use right now. I know it won't protect against anyone, but it'll at least keep any small children from getting into it.
Kumquat Lord That is exactly what gun locks are designed to do.
Just don't own a gun, how about that? I don't get you Americans..
@@MoundN That druggie breaking into your house? He's off his rocker on PCP, and he ain't going down without a .45 through his chest.
Rabid animal? That thing is going to kill you or your child if you dont shoot it *now*
Firearms, because when you have seconds, the police are only minutes away.
@@Mr-Trox Mr. Trox I don't know. It's something that I simply don't emphatize with that easily as someone whos not born in america I think.
I do get your points but I also know about the damage such easy gunlaws can cause.
I mean, I live in a society were its completely normal to live without guns and Im feeling completely safe.
Never have I ever heard someone say they feel unsafe because they cannot carry a gun.
It's completely normal here in Germany.
For the case about the rabid animal a simple knife could do just aswell ontop of that how many rabid animals are there really that you need to worry about ur children? Things like that would entise me to move away from that location.
It's not always possible i know but then again you do what you gotta do.
Either way I see the benefits but i also see the enormous drawbacks of those easy gunlaws and I'm generally a person who doesn't support gun ownage in any way unless its due to military.
Just how I feel tho, might be due to cultural differences.
@@MoundN Yeah, definitely cultural differences. Guns are part of life in America. Law abiding citizens losing their rights because of criminals is something most Americans dont take kindly here. It's tied into our cultural patriotism that from I learned from some German transfer students I met in school said they dont really have.
As for rabid animals and such, it was an example, and a knife wouldnt do you much good to avoid being scratched or bitten by the animal, which considering it's rabid in this explanation, is something you want to avoid at all costs.
Kids around guns isnt as huge a problem as the media would have you believe. I was taught gun safety before I was even allowed to touch a BB gun, let alone a firearm. My niece was taught gun safety before she could read, it's a simple few lessons you give your kids and emphasize that guns *are not toys* they are dangerous tools not to be touched or interacted with without adult supervision.
Funnily enough, I had a key break for one of my Regal locks, and removed it using an identical pair of line cutters! I knew they'd at least get through that one. Great video!
They’re all a lot stronger than I thought they’d be. Go Sig!
8:33 "It really sucks, as far as pick resistance goes"......lol
I love how he’s saying he’ll see how tough they are, then holds up a precut chunk to display the construction. It’s like when someone in the theater shouts out the ending of the movie 5 minutes in.
Fantastic Video LPL & Very Cool Too See What The Tolerances Are Of These Locks. Keep up the great work. Nick.
Thanks.
I have the red one on my rifle, and I lost BOTH of the keys.. thank you for this
Gun locks are primarily intended to prevent children from accidentally discharging a firearm and harming themselves or others. Children would not have the tools or knowledge to get through even the thinnest gun locks on the market.
Sig Sauer produces premium quality items, you can not go wrong with choosing them for a firearm.
Do you mean, you "can NOT" or "can't" and just forgot the apostrophe?
I don't know they had some problems with their polymer guns
The mini bolt cutters you have to manually open further to get the bolt in deeper. They’re only open at about 10% if you don’t separate the handles.
Damn the sparks coming off the boom stick with that wire cutters just shows how much pressure is needed
Wear thick leather gloves to protect your palm skin from the pain of applying all that pressure. You will able to put more force and cut faster.
"I may have gotten a little movement......*lock snaps.....UGHH"
the fact that he says he's gonna stop at the mini bolt cutter before he even begins tells me a $20 tool will defeat the lock that came with my $600 pistol
I've broken my own locks after losing my keys. I used a method similar to the wrench method except I replaced the second wrench with locking pliers and simply pried up. It worked for Kimber, S&W, Glock, police issue, and a very expensive one I bought at a show. Keep track of your keys!
That sig sauer one was impressive. Why aren't bike cable locks made like that?
I actually think this may work well as a bike lock ?
Bike cable locks are a wimpy joke. Thick ones, skinny ones, fancy name brands... Cable locks aren't going to keep your bike unless you live in a low crime area. Manufacturers make them because people buy them. Bike shops sell them because people buy them. I've worked in plenty of bike shops for long enough and people will ask for a cable. I'll tell them that if you want to keep your bike get the $40+ U lock. Customers proceed to buy crappy cable lock. Then they'll be back in the bike shop a few months later to buy another bike after the cable lock was cut. I've probably experienced this scenario nearly 50 times. It is what it is.
@@mikekrasovec6390 Sadly true, I lost a nice bike parked right in the middle of my uni campus (outside the main library) in broad daylight. I'll never know if they bypassed/picked the cheap lock or just cut the cable, but whatever it was it must have been fast. Lesson learnt.
Crackheads where i live have boltcutters3 times the size of his and can strip a bike in minutes, just dont leave your bike alone and get a u lock
I tend to use a Kryptonite lock if I ever have to leave my bike anywhere, but it would be nice to have a high quality cable lock so I don't have to carry a 2kg lock around when I know the only time I'll be leaving my bike alone is outside of a coffee shop where I can see it the whole time but can't bring it in with me.
The key with attacking these quickly is to remove the plastic cover that holds the scales together, and getting to the wire in between. It is not good quality, and it is never braided. You can get through it with a hacksaw.
+Cerberous I didn't have much luck getting the Cutters in between... the links are crimped together pretty tight.
Cerberous The "scales" near together and the ends that are crimped on hold them tightly together. You can't get between them.
these things are a joke, something like a Sturdy safe for your guns or don't bother.
Dies1r4e Field conditions?
Whenever i have to cut one of those POS locks i just bend the cable and then cut it. The scales move out of the way and all thats left is the rubber and twisted wires
When I hauled high value freight, cable seals were common security. I once had to remove a seal for a customer who had no means to do so. It took me 90sec to remove two 1/4" cables with a residential grade hacksaw!
The reason why the "Kleins" (the linesman's pliers) did so well is that they have a pin which is offset closer to the jaws of the pliers. You can see the placement of the pin on the Kleins @2:07. This gives you a lot more leverage.
The needlenose and sidecutters have there pin in the center.
Klein 2000 series linesman pliers have hardened cutters that would probably work well for cutting those.
That and a little wiggle to whatever you're trying to cut helps a bunch.
honestly, I haven't purchased a gun because of my two young boys. I can't express how scared I am of them getting hurt by something I brought in to the home. This project lock greatly increases my confidence. thank you LPL!!!
The responsibility that comes with being a father and husband is the number one reason to not just buy a weapon but learn it and teach it to the family you protect.
If you have the firearm and it is not connected to any stationary item preventing portability, try placing the linesman's pliers in a vise to provide additional force. I think you will be pleased with the result. I have used this method on other more conventional items. Keep up the great work! Thank you for sharing.
This is the Lock Picking Lawyer, and today, I’ve had enough.
Cable cutters good at cutting cables? LIES!
I know... go figure.
You mean the sheathing of the cable or something more substantial? Please elaborate.
@Roderick storey I agree with your descriptions.
electrical cable shears actually are to some degree able to cut things harder than copper or aluminium, because they also need to be able to cut ground cable, usually armored with galvanized swa steel. Which is relatively soft but i suppose harder than aluminium and copper. These steel cable shears are way different from cable shears, they use a huge leverage, a small cable wouldn't even fit in and an electrical cable shear would not have enough leverage to cut steel cable.
I can easily cut any of those locks with my dedicated Swage Tool , it's meant for cutting cable and crimping Alum Ferals , I've made better cables for locking up guns than any these lock companies can come up with . If you buy a $1000 plus firearm why the hell would you use a $10 lock to protect it ?
a very similar one to the red regal lock also comes along with a large quantity of Glock firearms.
Great video. Number 4 (sig sauer) was really binding :D I love the cable cutters and use them to cut everything. I have a a 2 foot long set that can fit about and inch diameter... they will CHOP in half nearly anything you put in them.
My thougts on a decent use for the Sig Sauer would be to lock a bike seat to the frame of the bike. They are easy enough to replace, but it'll provide some sense of a barrier from it's theft. Then lock the bike with a 2-3 choice locks.... Wheels to frame with Forgetaboutit U-locks, and a nice thick chain to secure the frame to whatever it is you're securing the bike to.
I'd be interested to see if you can pick open the various different kinds of trailer seals that are placed on trucks and shipping containers
First time a MasterLock put up any fight.
What you say at 8:46 is a pretty good and accurate description of most Masterlock products...
I'm amazed at how many people don't understand there's literally a tool for everything. Bolt cutters work very well at cutting through things like... locks. You can even get them in ratchet-form. Also, use leverage, i.e. put one handle on a stable surface
So that last company mostly needs to focus on improving the lock itself, then they'd be good?
I love your big pliers - old and hefty. Nice colorful locks and very interesting testing sequence. But I have a question regarding the cable armor. What if you bent the cable, would the wire protrude and is this then any easier to cut or saw through? Once I had a bicycle lock where this worked out pretty good th-cam.com/video/LwuSB725wks/w-d-xo.html
Those big pliers are very old and better than any modern counterpart I've ever seen. As for the armor, IF you could get the cutters between the links, it would help quite a bit. but here, that didn't seem possible. I did some testing and cutting of one apart first and wasn't able to execute.
LockPickingLawyer the brand your looking at is called klein. Klein is still available made in the usa and high quality. You can get them at home depot. You do pay extra for klein tools though. Quality is not cheap.
They are the most popular brand amongst electricians in the usa. I also own that exact red pair. I collect alot of old tools
I'd go for Knipex for linesmen's pliers if you're going to be putting them through heavy use. They're more expensive than Klein, but better built. Get ones with nice handles to avoid hurting your hands when you give them a really good squeeze.
You could certainly bypass the armour with some work. However their strategy seems to be that it would take longer to bypass the armour than it would to cut through it. Peeling the plastic off and shuffling links about to make a gap seems like a lot of work when the correct tool could get through in seconds. Sad that they're actually planning on the lock being defeated in seconds to minutes but there we go.
As for tools, I'm split between two minds. I've got a large set of my grandfather's old tools and they certainly made them good and proper, but at the same time metallurgy and manufacturing has also improved. The prices have come down and the designs are better. If they stopped trying to cut every corner and make it to the bare minimum cost modern tools would stomp older ones, but until they fix the industry I'm going to keep my ancient set and clean off the rust any time I need to use them.
I love how theres a low bar but master lock finds itself in last place
I don’t mean to disrespect lovely LPL but this video made me feel a whole new way about him with those noises. Impressive strength as well.
A lock only stops an honest person.
So your saying that LPL is dishonest, right?
@@m.w.2098 im coating all my D locks in double layered pvc. Like tank armour, use composite!!
And young children.
A bad lock*
Those poor cable cutters. Sacrilege.
+htomerif They held up like champions!
htomerif Yeah, they will be just fine. They're stopper thick and super hard. This didn't even phase them.
Cable cutters nah. Those kliens though? They are shot.
@@matthewriggenbach8000 I mean, they already had replacement grips, so.....
I think what's happening is you're applying enough force to stretch the cable and slip down through the armour plates, snipping the little baby cables.
Once you cut the first lock you can use the gun to remove the rest of the locks. Nice work on the wide selection of tools to break the cable. If you still have the lock bodies I'd be curious to see you wedge the lock against a solid backer with a chunk of wood and hit it with a hammer, (improvised attack in a somewhat confined way as if the gun was still attached). I suspect that even with a half hearted strike or two with a 20 oz hammer the lock would come apart. Even if you have tossed those locks I'm sure you have a few laying around, (I have a whole shoe box of the useless things and have a hard time just throwing them away).
+John-Paul Silke The lock bodies are surprisingly robust. And the locking mechanism's are solid. You certainly could open it with a hammer, but you would probably do some damage to whatever it was locked to.
Hi Harry, interesting video, we don't often have to cut cables - nice to see what works and what doesn't, thanks for showing. Regards, Brian.
+Brian Hignett Thanks. These cables held up better than I expected.
Anyone else wiggle in their seat trying to help him squeeze those tools?
I honestly wasn't expecting any of those to work except the cable cutters and I would expect the cable cutters to go through like butter
If you use a cold chisel and a one pound ball piene hammer and they will cut.
+Tuna Fish probably even without the chisel.
I've opened one with just a screwdriver. Pop the hull in a vice and use the screwdriver as a lever through the loop, and twist the cable until it's so tight that it sheers the cable. Took minimum effort to free the Glock box the lock was attached to (opened for original owner who showed a receipt with the same serial number on the gun).
Lolol had to throw a disclaimer there at the end I see... 😅😅😅😅
These locks are not suppose to keep adults from accessing the firearm they are to keep children out as well as accidental discharge. Children rarely walk around with bolt cutters.
GREAT REVIEW LPLman take of them (highly skilled picking hands).the heck with them cheep locks lol lol.THANKS for sharing. 😎😎😎😎😎
Thanks, and thanks for the concern. I'll be careful... mom. :-P
When I lost my key to one of these I used a flathead screwdriver and a standard household hammer. Got through super easily.
Why don’t locks use more pins? I’m just curious cause all the locks you talk about have somewhere from 4-6 pins
maybe they rapidly become more expensive? 4-6 pins may be the most cost-effective.
HorizontalTwo08 I should go use google and check.
HorizontalTwo08 I can’t find an explanation I think it’s something to do with the level of security they provide
@@dedley2664 - I looked around and found 12 pin locks and even a 22 pin lock. My best guess has to do with the the Key. The key has to be able to interact with each pin, which means a bigger and/or longer key for every pin. 6 pins is a very common choice because 3 pins is less secure I'm guessing.
HorizontalTwo08 interesting
Halfway through i became aware of my arm muscles involuntarily tightening in sympathy, so to speak, whenever he squeezed the grips
Effective demo... Thanks.
Thanks.
Now i can finally play with my dads gun thank you Lockpicinglawyer
I didn’t hear him say: “I am going to use the cable cutters Bosnian Bill and i designed.” Did i miss something?
Love the videos! For the cable locks, have a look at the CK wire cutters.. The best there is for the price
Back in middle school we had a gun safety event. They passed out free gun locks to all the students to take home. They were about as thin as that master lock one.
Try Klein cutters/snips also know as wire cutters. They cut cable like butter. Klein tools are outstanding. Less effort and force to cut. Just a thought.
Good to know... but I don't have them. But a good tip for others.
Ryan Quirk electricians cutters like the kleins have unhardened steel as they are designed for cutting copper and aluminum conductors not steel it will dick up the cutting edges.
That's if you get a good pair. Klein is a hit and miss.
@@williamnicholson8133 2000 series is hardened
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LOL, give it time.
1 dislike now, someone has woken up :D
+TrollerSK 47 so far, are you happy now?
The side cutters you should use nearer the end of the cutter for full leverage. Makes a huge difference.
Glad to see Sig Sauer locks are as good as their guns!
I don’t know why but whenever he got to the red lock i was chanting him on ;)
I always thought of these locks as more of a child safety device that anything.
Obviously, cutting an already cut cable is easier, since it is easier to spread the armor beads apart. Which means that only the first cut is the real test.
I used to have a lock like that, never knew what it was for, i just liked it because I’ve never seen one like it
Lost the keys to my pistol now hear I am XD
Have people never heard of cordless grinders these days??
All those locks are appropriate to keep our grandchildren from loading a round.
Lockpickinglawyer, this video serves as an example to those of us who are firearms collectors and owners that there are only 2 forms of security that work: 1st and most obvious is having the firearm under your direct control (in hand, holstered, etc.) And for weapons not under the owner's direct control, the 2nd security measure is to use multiple security measures to secure one's weapons. I use cable locks in each firearm (except Ruger®️™️ which use a Regal®️™️ padlock designed to fit the specific firearm), a thick security cable which runs through each weapon then out the back of the security cabinet and through the wall and secured out of sight, and all weapons are stored in a cabinet that is bolted to the concrete basement floor, and the security cabinet is installed in a closet with all spare space filled with sheetrock, and finally, I replaced the closet door with a fireproof steel door and frame bought at an auction for a whole lot less than a new closet door. As the legal owner of a unique selection of modern firearms, I felt compelled to safeguard these weapons from criminals and unauthorized adolescents. No security system is foolproof, but I designed mine to keep the interloper working long enough to get the police on scene long before entry is gained. Of course, the final security measure in place is our AT&T Digital Life security system with motion sensors in my little armory and door sensors on all exterior doors and windows plus the armory door and safe closet, glass break sensors in interior rooms and cameras to visually check inside and outside. It sounds like a lot but my "armory" room and closet were really easy and inexpensive to set up, especially after realizing that the majority of firearms safes are a waste of money and provide no more protection than a properly installed firearms cabinet.
Put one of the handles against some surface then you can put alot of weight on the other handle pressing down you can basically put your whole weight on it. You get ALOT more force that way