UPDATE 2: I've heard from a reliable source that LPL has received the locks! Unfortunately that was months ago now with no word since, so I can only assume it wasn't picked ;). I still have hopes he posts a video about it, but that is ultimately up to him. Thanks for your interest and support in following this project! I hope to return to this for a part 3 soon.
@@ThePyroWaffles fortunately, most lock content he interacts with is locksport. a more realistic look is probably McNally with his tendency to beat a lock with another lock to open it
Tbh this design is good enough to apply for a patent on it. It's an original application of existing principles, which solves a problem a little better than anything that already exists.
Or put it in public domain, so no one can steal it. Also, it seem to be too expensive to put in every door. Imagine someone constantly damages the lock (glue, or similar stuff). The owner must spend plenty of money to fix it (by buying a new lock, or even the door). It might be cheaper to have other security measures.
Mad respect to the lockpicker for being willing to go for it and for getting the first one. Clearly has crazy skill even if he wasn't able to get this one.
Improvement suggestion: Varied pin/plate thickness. Since they're essentially a stack, the size and number of pins isn't inherently fixed. In addition to making picking a bit more difficult, it could potentially thwart some impressioning attacks.
@@worksbydesign you could also make them slightly rough between the faces so that way if they apply tension, it makes it harder to move the pins, but when there is no tension, they still move easily.
If going that route another thought that comes to my mind is coupling two untouching pins with a connecting bar between them and a groove/cut in the other pins to allow the connecting pin to pass through them
I love the attitude of "This project is meant to see what's possible, not what's profitable". It reminds me those stories you hear from decades or centuries ago about scientists, engineers, mathematicians, and more just one upping each other in something that holds very little value aside from curiosity and fun. I know that still happens to today (This video is an example of it), but it's nice to see
It's why the classic approach of patrons for art and science were huge for progress, though it meant limited availability of the opportunity for a lot of potentially amazing contributors. Today, we have that here and there in academia, but anything not clearly backed by a profit opportunity is heavily affected by whims and public image at the institution level. Rocking the boat gets harder to do with that.
Progress is not made by making things practical. If people said researching anti-matter was impractical and useless, we would not have PET machines detecting cancer clumps of less than a hundred cells. We have to spend millions in research and then engineers work to bring everything from the edge to day to day stuff. That is what a science based society is supposed to look like. I feel nowadays everyone is interested in just doing the obvious, easily profitable thing and that is why we haven't made significant theoretical progress in Physics in decades.
@@vidal9747 Another part of the seeming slowdown is that each step requires new tools. In past eras, a relatively small team with a relatively small space with some custom glass or metal work could discover fundamental things in the course of a year or so. Now it takes 10 years and nearly $5B to make the next tool.
I love how LPL has become the de facto test for any lock being too hard to pick. Also, the single chamber that makes raising pins push the other pins down is pretty smart.
Lpl is far from the best in the lockpicking community, but he's definitely the most famous! Hard locks is not what he picks, he picks mostly easy ones that seem hard for the normal people, but most high level pickers pick locks far harder than LpL has on his channel If you're curious take a look at my page 😉
I'm certain that the lockpicking community mentioned in the video has far better picking ability. No single person, no matter how charismatic or experienced, is as powerful as a community working together. That's why the best of the best aren't just relying on their own skills or experience, they draw from communities as well.
A locksmith saying "i cant feel a damn thing" is honestly a valid test for your lock. The inability for you to feel anything when testing a lock is impressive in and of itself
This. "I can't feel a damn thing" haa to be the most absolutely satisfying thing to hear as a guy that made that lock. That's like the goal. I also seriously love the theory behind it with the ball bearings acting like a dynamic vise. Genius. That's going to become some kind of standard. Homie needs to put a patent on it.
That had to be an absolute nightmare, I can't pick locks, but I know how it works, and ive tried with shitty paper clip tools, I can imagine the mushy feedback of ball bearing inside of a lock would be an absolute god forsaken nightmare
You know what I loved the most? The locksmith obviously enjoys what he does at the atomic level - they were just as excited that they couldn't figure out the lock in time as we were.
Thanks man! I appreciate you. It was a lot of fun both understanding his engineering expertise and having the opportunity to be the first to work on the next age of locks.
I showed this to my grandfather, he is an 80-year-old locksmith and he was somewhere between shocked and impressed. Take my sub we will watch you again.
@@CraftBasti At first, he said there’s no way any lock can be unpickable other than welding the door shut. But after he saw how the beads cover the pins, he was intrigued by the idea. He really liked the craftsmanship and attention to detail. However, he still said, "There’s no actual practical use for a lock like this; it's more of an oddity." But he is German, so this is like a big compliment!
@@dunklerKurfurstDesDeepstat thank you, I appreciate that you took the time to elaborate! Very true, we Germans rarely speak actual compliments, that does weigh a lot.
100%. It was all everyone on LPU Discord was talking about last night, and the guy that's getting it first is formidable. Everyone just knows Lockpicking Lawyer because of TH-cam, but these guys are the real deal. I don't imagine it lasts long, and that's not because it's not a good design, but simply because Works By Design isn't a Lockpicker first, designer second.
The lock also has an unanticipated drill resistant feature! Yeah, you could drill out the core, but when you do, you release a flood of ballbearings on the floor which create a tripping hazard preventing further progress through the entryway. Kevin would be impressed. :)
Humanity is so cool man, always one-upping ourselves and stuff, this is such an intricate design and it wouldnt be possible without man's thirst for competition
Yeah, i am knterested in this as well, i accidentally stumbled upon and subscribed the moment i saw the animations, the topic is awesome, your narrative, editing, but animations, god damn.
I feel like McNally would LOVE to test out this lock! I'm not too sure with how long he's lockpicking for but I feel like this would be a good test of his skills on this masterpiece!
This is what genius, combined with obsession, combined with expertise looks like. Its beautiful. Wish I had the time, I honestly dont know how you do but thanks for sharing with the rest of us.
@@jsteezy80 I for one can't wait for the inevitable McNally short where he applies the covert instruments set and the infamous L U B E to this lock to somehow pick it in a-and he used the single-sided jiggler again, great.
The first 9 minute will be he talking about the youtuber and the lock, the last minute will be he demontrastes opening the lock 2 times so that we cant miss it
The people who have significant engineering prowess AND a fantastic ability to animate/visually represent their ideas by video are some of the most astounding channels. Instant sub!
I clicked thinking it was Stuff Made Here and was immediately disappointed... For about a minute or two until I realized how good this video was gonna be. Great job
One Lock for the Lawyer, King of the Pick, One Lock for the mortal Locksmith, doomed to pry, One Lock for the Pick-Lords of Discord and Reddit, who see no sky. But they were all of them deceived, for another lock was made. The Dark Lord Works by Design forged, in secret, a Master Lock to control all others. And into this Lock he poured all his cruelty, his malice and his will to dominate all lockpickers. One Lock to rule them all.
And then it was opened in seconds by the one, small creature. This McNally hit the Master lock on a surface just the right way, and it unlocked itself.
@@silvertheelf ... "Locks! What are they good for? Absolutely nothing!" I enjoy the Classics, as well, as long as the message is heard, loud and clear. Anything behind a Lock should have been Destroyed or Shared. There is no good use for a Lock.
Ingenious. Loved to see the thought process that went into this from someone who understands the problems. Shows again how important it is to know the other side. Edit: the design for the key needs some work. I'd probably try a cylinder with a smooth skip/crater (don't know the english word for it) for the thumb and indexfnger... or something like a thin knob, a bit like a screwdriver grip.
Fluid bearings were an absolute genius move. Everything else is just icing on the cake. Even if someone figures this out, what youve done is nothing short of incredible
If I were that locksmith, and he gave me one, I'd have no life until I figured it out. I would be spending all of my free time obsessively trying get it open
seems like replacing the springs with a tiny pressurized ball-pit added randomness to the feedback of binding pins, thats pretty neat edit: ballpit lock also sounds like a cool name for this style of lock.
Yeah raking/bumping seems like the more reliable way to "pick" it since single pin picking would give strange feedback that would be very inconsistent. Although with enough practice I'm sure there would be people who would grow adept at the feel. The only way to really help this lock would be to vary the pin/plate thickness and add false set drop ins such that a failed attempt or bumping would result in a bound lock.
@worksbydesign, this is one hundred percent amazing! I would like to suggest a much simpler way to make a lock unpickable, namely having the job of the core and the cylinder reversed. The lock's core is bolted to the cylinder housing, and cannot rotate. The lock's shell can rotate around the core, but only when the correct key is in the core. The rotation of the shell moves the latch or deadbolt in or out. A thumb turn rotates a friction torque limiter which rotates the shell. To lock or unlock is, the user puts their key in the core and rotates the thumb turn. The thumb turn rotates the torque limiter which rotates the shell which moves the latch in or out. If a would-be lockpick tries to tension the thumb turn overly hard, the torque limiter will slip. If the springs pushing on the pins are sufficiently stiff, more tension on the shell will be required than the torque limiter will transmit. If you want to be evil, you could include a dashpot between the thumb turn and the torque limiter.
It would be interesting to see an implementation of this - my suspicion is that it wouldn't be possible to have a torque limiting clutch set loose enough to prevent tensioning while still allowing the lock to function normally, but I'm a long way from an expert and that's just a hunch
For what it's worth, while it'll never find commercial success in home locks for doors, vault lock mechanisms and the like have no upper limit for complexity or cost. Take a look at Fichet Bauche safe locks. They're essentially safe locks designed by someone who must have had a crossover passion with watch making or something else. Incredibly expensive and complex (but also beautiful). Great job!
I'm just grateful someone is inventing new locks. For 50 years, pretty much we have not seen much in the way of advances. Stuff like Medeco CLIQ and electro-mechanical cylinders may be around, but a lot have fallen prey to clever arrangements of magnets. Even though this design is something that might be tough to mass-produce, it is something that is greatly appreciated. I'd rather see businesses and people make stuff like this than another subscription based web service.
The thing to keep in mind is that he only made this lock to be pick resistant. There are several other destructive means of bypassing the lock that wasn't addressed in this design.
I have always believed that if you can do something impossible, even if it’s over engineered to all hell, it’s the first step to making it possible. This is a fantastic lock! Thanks so much for putting so much hard work into this!
@joshyoung1440 ifyou can prove that an impossible act is possible even just 1% of the actual goal at great cost you have proven that it is possible after all. The US and Russia going to the moon is a great example of this.
@@jorgecarvajal5385 thats nonsensical ... hacking means exploiting vulnerabilities, if there are no vulnerabilities to exploit the system is unhackable - the most primitive way being no access to the device outside of its limited input and output peripherals - imagine sealed container with only monitor and keyboard/keypad that are both encased in the container ... no net access, no ports to slot anything in same concept here, lock can be made in a way that would make it impossible to pick, only problem is that for lock to be viable you also have to have it in reasonable format limiting space and the more unreasonable you make the design the more you are compromising reliability and raising the cost and as far as i know LPL still havent been able to pick the Bowley and its been YEARS
@@Asghaad Picky Mcpick defeated a Bowley with a homemade bump key about 3 years or so ago, if I remember correctly. LPL, himself, said that he could defeat the Bowley and how, given the time to develop skills he's lacking. I think it's important to remember that while the Lockpicking Lawyer is a master at his craft, there are others who are arguably more skilled or with different skills than him when it comes to the hobby and profession (Bosnian Bill comes to mind).
For a lock to be truly unpickable it has to be overengineered, great ideas you had, I could see this being actually used as a mechanical backup for some fancy electronic vault door.
This is astonishing and it warms my heart! There are no unpickable locks. There are just locks that are impractical to pick because the destructive method is so much simpler and faster. And this lock might slip into that category.
@@nuclearboom2467 Use 2 sheets of 1'' AR500, with a 1/2" layer of carbide in between for the front plate. And creamic inserts to stop angle grinders etc.
I'm probably way in over my head, but as soon as you mentioned it had a "variable" design I realized a rake method will eventually get all the pins at the right way to open which is pretty on brand for the rake, so I'm glad I somehow got proven, and you had the transparency to leave that in the vid. Regardless, the ideas, and production quality of this video is astounding, let alone the fact that it actually works to a degree. Great stuff!
The pins still have to be in a single keyed position to open the lock, it's just that the shear line is one sided, the lock is designed in such a way that the key pins also act like driver pins on the other positions when pushed. I assume the one he raked open just had bad bitting, which lends any pin tumbler style system to easy raking (and can be fixed by just re-keying)
10:40 - man what a cool situation. Lock picking pro gets a call from a youtuber - "hey I'm trying to make an unpickable lock...can you bring your mobile lock picking rig to my place tomorrow morning at 8am? I'll show you an animation of how it works and pay you for the full hour and a half". I bet that's the best day ever for that guy
Genius design. It's one of those things that you see and immediately thing, "Why didn't I think of that!" I've been contemplating forging some kind of lock to stump LPL. Always wanted to make a padlock in the smithy, but never seem to get around to it. You've given me some ideas, that's for sure!
5:00 that face plate is only going to prevent front of the keyway tensioning, this is actually a fairly common issue in picking because they can make the front plate spin completely independently of the lock body if needed, the issue is you can defeat this if you just tension off of the first cylinder or the back of the core. I'm excited to see if this is fixed later in the video
Man did more research for a single lock than many lock companies did in their entire time of existence Edit: guys, please don't take my comment so seriously, it's just a joke made after watching a few too many McNally's videos
Remember lock companies are in the business of coming up with designs that can actually sell in the mass market for a profit, not making unpickable locks for lock nerds.
@@asystole_ I'll quibble with this only slightly - one thing lock makers are NOT in the business of doing is making the BEST lock that they can sell in the mass market for a profit. If they could sell you a lock made of paper for $40 they absolutely would. Take MasterLock's "maximum security" padlocks: they are made of expensive materials like boron carbide and thick steel, but they are vulnerable to bumping, raking, often combing, they often have major design flaws that allow them to be bypassed (when a $0.02 plate would fix the problem), they have no security pins at all, etc. They are good for first time pickers to practice on! Maximum Security my ass! But it sells well because the average joe knows how to cut a lock with bolt cutters, he doesn't know how to walk up to a lock and make a half hearted pick attempt to find out that this "high security" lock is actually utter garbage.
I can assure you, they did a lot of research. But their primary goal is not to make an unpickable lock. If you want an unpickable lock, you can buy an electronic lock. A mechanical lock must be cheap and reliable, otherwise nobody will buy it and the manufacturer will make no profits. Every overcomplicated lock design makes the manufacturing cost prohibitively high and introduce a lot of potential reliability problems. BTW, there are mechanical locks which are ALMOST unpickable (in real world applications) and simple at the same time, e.g. Abloy Protec2.
@@losarpettystrakos7687 Lol bro, half the electronic locks don't even need to be picked, they are so bad. All locks have to have a physical component, so all locks are vulnerable to physical attacks of various types. A good mechanical lock actually requires a high degree of skill to pick, which is not common. On the other hand, there's no telling if the electronic lock is any good just by the features list.
Suddenly, out of nowhere, this brilliant and amazing channel throws down an unpickable lock in front of LPL. And, true to form, LPL feels the disturbance and has risen to no doubt study this video, his opponent, for worthiness. BosnianBill remains on call, ready to make the custom tooling and Mcnally is pacing like a caged animal, sharpened carpentry square in one hand and a tube of personal lubricant in the other. We are watching hisyory being made, folks!
Hopefully he doesn't study the video. Honestly the only fair way to attempt to pick this lock would be to go in blind with no knowledge of the internals of the lock.
@PlaySA Security by obscurity is not a desirable design principle. Obscurity doesn’t allow the principals and design choices implemented in the lock to be adequately challenged.
@@PlaySA In the video, the locksmith also saw how the lock worked, and still couldn't get through. But then again, maybe 35min wasn't long enough to study and make attempts at the lock.
Hello and greetings from Serbia ! I accidentally came across your video, and even though I have zero knowledge about locks and lock peeking I watch the full video, and wanna congratulate you on your invention. I'm happy to see young people inventing new stuff. Even if by any chance this thing gets picked, don't not give up on your goals, you'll get there. It's really refreshing to see young inventors focusing their time on something nice and productive that could one day change the world, whatever that is. Unfortunately, because of the way we live, and the system works, people have gotten cold, and don't have anymore time and will to create, which is a real disease of the time we currently live in. Wish you and your family all the best !
@@techheck3358 -- I prefer the ones that uses specifically placed magnets and if you put magnets at the wrong place, the lock becomes permanent until demagnetized.
Honestly, understanding the clientele of high end locks, and so long as we don't find an extreme flaw in it, I can see this selling for BIG money and not being viewed as "too over complicated for market" You just made a lock that kills the ability to feel pins. That alone is gold. You killed recognizable feedback. Also the overall design required for the lock to be housed lends itself to being incredibly cheap to produce in manufacturing but also extremely durable. You could make this lock either extremely cheap and fast or almost invincible to physical attacks depending on the dimensions you choose. I'm also not unconvinced that a physical attack wouldn't cause the lock to fail but rather warp and bind, effectively permanently locking itself shut. And an even COOLER design factor you can play with is due to each shim having its own outer ring housing (im just gonna call that whole layer of shim and its housing the shim stack) not only can you just keep adding shim stacks to make as many layer as you need but you can *individually control the thickness of each stack* so not only can you have an unknown amount of shims but EACH one can be a different thickness which means you have NOOO idea at what depth any shim is sitting at all while the ball bearing system is killing your feedback. Imagine a lock that not only can you not feel where exactly the sheer line is but you can't be certain how many shims there are, let alone WHERE they are, you have to tension in two directions and have zero clue on how much force is needed for either way, the outer case sleeve can be built like a damn battleship, and if you smack the face of it with a hammer you run a chance of welding all the layers and cams and roller delays together and now no one's getting in. That's a good lock and I would LOVE to see you go all out on the next revisions as if you were actually to to market against the big wigs. I think this has serious promise and at minimum taking this design to its absolute full tilt limits I think is going to be a substantial learning point for your skills and us as a community, keep it up, I'd love to try and pick one some day!
I think it’d work best set into a door deep enough that the outer casing wasn’t exposed, with a thick plate around the keyway to help prevent drilling attacks.
Yeah, lol he published it to the world and made it common knowledge so he can never patent it now. It just floors me how people trade all their Intellectual property rights for a few moments of ego boost from people that could care really less about them. It takes a lot of self control to first get with the patent attorneys and complete the proper filings before ever making anything public. Anyhow he may have made a lot of corporations a lot of money that they will NEVER share with him and he will be powerless when he sees them using his idea.
@Truth-ii3tc well first first of "first to file" is a bit more finite than what you think, evidence of invention hold a lot of weight and until someone pops out a patent before him of this very thing he's got nothing to worry about. Also if you know anything about early firearms manufacturing in the US, sniping prototype patents can come at a high risk and no no way guarantee of control of the perfected form of the product you thought you had control over. As it turns out US patents are not a battle of "WELL BUT ITS CLOSE ENOUGH!!" You seem pretty charged over something that would take literally an evening for someone to announce as free use open material without having to worry about dropping a patent on a fully functioning model that hasn't been invented yet, he still doesn't have half of the function parts of the lock to be a lock design into the piece yet, it's literally just a core that does nothing and takes from pre existing fundamentals - which by nature makes patent sniping a fucking nightmare. Don't be a drama queen it's just a door lock and you did nothing to add any value to the conversation on it
The reason "unpickable" locks are not commercially viable is that their expense is not justified given the many other ways of getting through the door. Social engineering, going around the door somehow to unlock it from the inside, temporarily "borrowing" and copying the key, etc. Spending $1000 on an "unpickable" lock doesn't stop many of these other attacks - and the non-lockpicking attacks are often preferred by security specialists because they are so much easier/safer/faster. That's why the real challenge is to make a cheap slightly-difficult-to-pick lock with no trivially-exploitable flaws. And that's why LPL and McNally have such disdain for locks that are easily opened with a hammer (or another lock), or with comb picks, or with bypass attacks.
Add a custom resistor to your key that must allow a very specific tiny amount of current to pass through the key. No microchips, just complicated enough there isn’t necessarily a custom lock picking tool able to do this direct. Also potentially wire the circuit such that hard knocks to the lock make the resistance wobble wildly. The current could be used to turn on an electro magnet directly if it’s at the right voltage to pass through a transformer, but too much could burn out a “detector fuse” letting you know an attempt was made. Idk if this is feasible at all, but idk maybe
Great video! The animations are amazing and the engineering of the lock is amazing. I think of locks like an "asymetrical warfare" tool against burglars: cheap yet very effective, but can be bypassed given enough ressources. I am so grateful my locks aren't picking-proof, otherwise I would have slept outside more than once.
@@BarbasTheDog I know right? I would be so much better if locks were unpickable. Then they'd say "He broke through the window!" STATEMENTS rather than questions. Big improvement
what i like most is that it seemingly adds RNG to the picking experience without using electronics, overly complex mechanisms, or radically different key design.
What about a standalone electronic lock with a 25 year builtin battery(there is a certain chemistry🤔), using ultra low power(100nA standby) electronics, operated by a bidirectional optical key with builtin power(a button cell), employing 1024 bit AES encryption!🤔 There are already cheap few dollars worth security processors(MicroChip)available today, that can do this without lifting a thumb!. It is just a matter of putting this together with other ultra low power electronic components(TI) with some creativity. In the end, it is limited by its tungsten body and the physical strength of the mechanical lock mechanism. You can always blow torch it to make it unopenable! forever🙄, but opening it intact without the key🤞.Goodluck LPL!🤯🤣❤️👍
And I don't see that as a flaw for this lock. As it has a placement design that works just fine in tight confines, thus being able to be placed within objects that defeat many versions of destructive attacks, like simply using incredibly durable materials. The point of destroying things around the lock is focused on that around the lock, and this lock is simply designed within regular confines, adding a 'housing' would unnecessarily add to the complexity of design.
That is true with any locks. Here in Finland burglars do not bother picking even the Abloy Classic: takes too much time and requires some special tools. Much more effective is to take a hydraulic jack, some two-by-fours and jack the doorframe apart, along with some persuasion with a crowbar. No expertise required when you use brute force.
The animations alone in this video are deserving of a sub, let alone the absolutely crazy engineering that went into this lock. I can't wait to see LPL struggle with it and perhaps finally be defeated.
Unpickable or not, this is true and inspirational engineering; challenging yourself by striving for what others consider impossible. Thanks for sharing this with us.
5:30 I would unironically buy this “set” ! (As a way to support you too, not from some third party ripping off your hard work with no added innovation!) (Edit: Added clarification because we don’t take to kindly to money grabbing clones in these parts 🤠)
I'm so glad you approached this design with more research (and humility) than your last. It's pretty clear that you've learned immensely, and have only gotten better for it. Looking forward to the new design from the community's input. All in good time, of course
@@chrisloveall2821there are definitely things you could do to make this type of lock more serviceable. I don’t totally understand how it works but the design seemed simple enough that taking out the main through pins might allow one to take it apart. Idk I didn’t make it and don’t have the strongest understanding of what makes something easily serviceable.
holy what i thought the animations of the locks were stock until your design showed up they're really really smooth! I love the unceremonious dumping of the BBs into the lock, reminds me of the old Portal 2 animations
Man I’m blown away by your design ability, your animations, your explanations, and your overall skill and intelligence. I LOVE this video. It is a masterpiece, and you should definitely send this to LPL and McNally to have them give it a go.
The fact that there is the Lock Picking Lawyer picking locks and Works by Design making locks that are "unpickable" and sending them to the Lock Picking Lawyer - then being shared online is exactly the reason the internet was invented. LOL
I mean, technically the internet was invented to still maintain a communication infrastructure after a nuclear attack on the United States but sure, I know what you mean :D
5:20 Before you can sell it you need to make sure it will withstand the test of time. With all those moving parts & bee bee's its likely going to seize up at some point & if that happens.. You'll have to saw through whatever it is you need to enter. Assuming it is unpickable of course, Which ive never heard of anything made that doesn't have a issue somewhere.
Yes, the lock is a step up in some ways from the previous, but more importantly and more subtly, this video is a step up from the previous one. You acknowledge your inspirations, your animations and script improved, you clarify the purpose of the lock (not solely what's on the tin, an attempt at an "unpickable lock," but also that we're here to have fun and not to make a marketable product, setting a better stage), super appreciate all the effort that went into this. This is the TH-cam I want to see, collaborative (even if not always directly), playful, while still having room for technical. I didn't subscribe last time, but this time I 100% did and rang that bell. Thank you for caring. Keep it up!
Your animations are beautiful and educational. Your explanations of the mechanisms made it clear what your thought process was. I would love to watch a longer video of you showing how you machine and build everything.
I really like how you use laser-cut 2D shapes! A very dedicated person with a metal file and some other hand tools could technically make most of this as well, so it somehow feels more relatable than these $100K CNC-machine videos. It's really refreshing seeing a TH-camr work with more approachable manufacturing methods! I'd like to see another video where you explain in detail what went into your design decisions (perhaps on a second channel?). Also, really cool animations! I bet that was a lot of work!
ikr, thats why i don't get why some commenters seem to think this would be impractical for a commercial lock, you can mostly cut it from plates and tiny metal balls are easy to come by
May I just say that it’s very clear that you worked hard on this lock and video. The animations, engineering, the drawings, b roll , music etc.. Very entertaining and inspiring to see. Makes me want to create something cool as well.
Really cool project, I don't exactly understand how the balls work, but I think I understand the effect it gives, really smart idea to incorporate a mechanic from a vice into a lock really clever. Watched the old video too and this seems to be a slight new way to thinking how to goabout making it lockpick resistant. Amazing project!
on top of replacing the individual springs, the pressurized ball-pit adds a level of randomness to the "picking feel" because of how it makes pins interact with each other, and because of how the balls interact with the pins (every ball is essentially a false pin that could bind in a complex way with all the other ones)
![[1453] VERY Clever “Loki” Puzzle Padlock Solved](/img/n.gif)
UPDATE 2: I've heard from a reliable source that LPL has received the locks! Unfortunately that was months ago now with no word since, so I can only assume it wasn't picked ;). I still have hopes he posts a video about it, but that is ultimately up to him. Thanks for your interest and support in following this project! I hope to return to this for a part 3 soon.
Cool Lock!
I really want to make this, and put it on my front door... It would be an honor to display your name on my door with this feat of engineering!
Can't wait to see LockPickingLawyer doing a video about it! I doubt he will be able to pick it, but still want to see it :P
If you want to build a better lock you have to build a better key.....
I wanna buy one of those please make them in production
I love how LPL has just become the de-facto final boss for every bit of lock related content
With Bosnian Bill's retirement, who else is there? We going to send it to McNally to slap and speed square it?
@@TimnParksThe ol' Mcnally rake dart throw from 15meters away might just be what this thing needs!
@@ThePyroWaffles fortunately, most lock content he interacts with is locksport. a more realistic look is probably McNally with his tendency to beat a lock with another lock to open it
I love how every "I made a lock" video is filled with comments about LPL.
@@floofyboi7546 "The Works by Designs adaptive pin lock can be opened with a Works by Designs adaptive pin lock"
Tbh this design is good enough to apply for a patent on it. It's an original application of existing principles, which solves a problem a little better than anything that already exists.
Holy crap yeah he should do that bc I definitely can imagine someone stealing this since it works so well
It's expensive to patent stuff. Not worth it if you're not gonna go into mass production
Or put it in public domain, so no one can steal it. Also, it seem to be too expensive to put in every door. Imagine someone constantly damages the lock (glue, or similar stuff). The owner must spend plenty of money to fix it (by buying a new lock, or even the door). It might be cheaper to have other security measures.
Me with an electronic lock:
If thats to expensive, just sell it direct @@iSJ9y217
As LPL has said in the past, "There are no locks I can't pick. Just locks I haven't picked yet". This should be a fun one for him.
I don’t recall him ever saying that and he has failed to pick the Bowley lock. It’s since been picked via specialized tools by other pickers though.
I’d love to see him try the Forever lock. Afaik it’s actually unpickable since the key way is effectively impossible to access
He has a whole box of shame locks, the fuck you mean
LPL admited defeat on the Bowley lock. So these exist.
@@TlD-dg6ug Those shame locks are just locks LPL hasnt picked yet.
Mad respect to the lockpicker for being willing to go for it and for getting the first one. Clearly has crazy skill even if he wasn't able to get this one.
Improvement suggestion: Varied pin/plate thickness. Since they're essentially a stack, the size and number of pins isn't inherently fixed. In addition to making picking a bit more difficult, it could potentially thwart some impressioning attacks.
Really great idea, could even be implemented without any changes to the rest of the lock!
@@worksbydesign any key that have perfect volume and fits will work
@@Shubh-1no they don't pressure is distributie evenly and the lengts of the pinns are different so only works with the key
@@worksbydesign you could also make them slightly rough between the faces so that way if they apply tension, it makes it harder to move the pins, but when there is no tension, they still move easily.
If going that route another thought that comes to my mind is coupling two untouching pins with a connecting bar between them and a groove/cut in the other pins to allow the connecting pin to pass through them
I love the attitude of "This project is meant to see what's possible, not what's profitable". It reminds me those stories you hear from decades or centuries ago about scientists, engineers, mathematicians, and more just one upping each other in something that holds very little value aside from curiosity and fun. I know that still happens to today (This video is an example of it), but it's nice to see
It's why the classic approach of patrons for art and science were huge for progress, though it meant limited availability of the opportunity for a lot of potentially amazing contributors. Today, we have that here and there in academia, but anything not clearly backed by a profit opportunity is heavily affected by whims and public image at the institution level. Rocking the boat gets harder to do with that.
Progress is not made by making things practical. If people said researching anti-matter was impractical and useless, we would not have PET machines detecting cancer clumps of less than a hundred cells. We have to spend millions in research and then engineers work to bring everything from the edge to day to day stuff. That is what a science based society is supposed to look like. I feel nowadays everyone is interested in just doing the obvious, easily profitable thing and that is why we haven't made significant theoretical progress in Physics in decades.
@@vidal9747 Another part of the seeming slowdown is that each step requires new tools. In past eras, a relatively small team with a relatively small space with some custom glass or metal work could discover fundamental things in the course of a year or so. Now it takes 10 years and nearly $5B to make the next tool.
I was going to comment this very thought but you got to it first!
@@xxpoisonblxx Large Hadron Colliders don't pay for themselves, sadly.
I love how LPL has become the de facto test for any lock being too hard to pick. Also, the single chamber that makes raising pins push the other pins down is pretty smart.
I would include Deviant Ollam as well.
McNally is getting up there
Lpl is far from the best in the lockpicking community, but he's definitely the most famous! Hard locks is not what he picks, he picks mostly easy ones that seem hard for the normal people, but most high level pickers pick locks far harder than LpL has on his channel
If you're curious take a look at my page 😉
I'm certain that the lockpicking community mentioned in the video has far better picking ability.
No single person, no matter how charismatic or experienced, is as powerful as a community working together. That's why the best of the best aren't just relying on their own skills or experience, they draw from communities as well.
I wonder how much money LPL has been offered to deliberately fail picking a commercial lock.
1:50 is one of the coolest animations of it's kind that I've ever seen.
Would love a deep dive on how to recreate it ❤
Definitely felt the same
A locksmith saying "i cant feel a damn thing" is honestly a valid test for your lock. The inability for you to feel anything when testing a lock is impressive in and of itself
This. "I can't feel a damn thing" haa to be the most absolutely satisfying thing to hear as a guy that made that lock. That's like the goal. I also seriously love the theory behind it with the ball bearings acting like a dynamic vise. Genius. That's going to become some kind of standard. Homie needs to put a patent on it.
@@johneisele6264 100% he needs to put a patent on this if the LPL can't pick it. Absolutely legendary mechanism he's put together here
Most locksmiths aren't worth a shit at picking.
That had to be an absolute nightmare, I can't pick locks, but I know how it works, and ive tried with shitty paper clip tools, I can imagine the mushy feedback of ball bearing inside of a lock would be an absolute god forsaken nightmare
It's the same test for validity of your bedroom prowess.
You know what I loved the most? The locksmith obviously enjoys what he does at the atomic level - they were just as excited that they couldn't figure out the lock in time as we were.
Thanks man! I appreciate you. It was a lot of fun both understanding his engineering expertise and having the opportunity to be the first to work on the next age of locks.
@@kendricoldenberg7920you are a very skilled man. Respect, was fun to watch you in the videos!
"All I can hear is static in my head" speaks VOLUMES about how this is actually supposed to work
I love how there'S now a genre of youtube videos thats all about making toys for LPL
It’s whole ecosystem lol
Hell yeah
Is how men works.. "You can't do this" -> "screw you" -> "proof" [Rinse, repeat]
Spanish king "you cant go there", coloumbus "Screw you" finds USA
Hey, better locks are better for everyone.
And McNally
0:14 he is using a covert instruments rake. Nice equipment.
I showed this to my grandfather, he is an 80-year-old locksmith and he was somewhere between shocked and impressed. Take my sub we will watch you again.
Please elaborate, what did he say?
@@CraftBasti At first, he said there’s no way any lock can be unpickable other than welding the door shut. But after he saw how the beads cover the pins, he was intrigued by the idea.
He really liked the craftsmanship and attention to detail. However, he still said, "There’s no actual practical use for a lock like this; it's more of an oddity." But he is German, so this is like a big compliment!
@@dunklerKurfurstDesDeepstat thank you, I appreciate that you took the time to elaborate!
Very true, we Germans rarely speak actual compliments, that does weigh a lot.
@@CraftBasti nicht geschimpft ist genug gelobt 😅
dude has your gramp seen a Chinese moon lock? It’s really lock proof as well!
Honestly giving the third lock away as a challange lock is probably the coolest idea for a project idea like this.
100%. It was all everyone on LPU Discord was talking about last night, and the guy that's getting it first is formidable. Everyone just knows Lockpicking Lawyer because of TH-cam, but these guys are the real deal. I don't imagine it lasts long, and that's not because it's not a good design, but simply because Works By Design isn't a Lockpicker first, designer second.
But there should be a 4th lock on his front door proofing that it is usable and durable.
@@tinu5779 lol true
@@tinu5779 Why? It's just supposed to be "unpickable". Not the perfect door lock.
Unlockable locks like this are not for day to day use but rather high security places like banks or government/military buildings @@tinu5779
The lock also has an unanticipated drill resistant feature! Yeah, you could drill out the core, but when you do, you release a flood of ballbearings on the floor which create a tripping hazard preventing further progress through the entryway. Kevin would be impressed. :)
RIP Kevin Mitnick
Also it would make a large amount of noise
Im impressed 👍
At that point just cut the lock out the door
A simple Tupperware container held under the lock to contain the ball bearings would solve that problem.
Humanity is so cool man, always one-upping ourselves and stuff, this is such an intricate design and it wouldnt be possible without man's thirst for competition
holy shit those animations are *slick*
the animations earned my sub.
Reminds of Animagraffs.
Thank you very much!
What is the software used for that?
Yeah, i am knterested in this as well, i accidentally stumbled upon and subscribed the moment i saw the animations, the topic is awesome, your narrative, editing, but animations, god damn.
@@janhartmann7275 @HGKaya @sanches2 none of you watched the whole video, huh?
This isn't a lock - it's a work of art. Love the mechanical complexity with purpose.
How did you make the part look like a cartoon and how did you animated it? Thank yoi
@Thediscoball could be blender, unreal or any other 3d creation software. And for a design standpoint, I know CAD programs exist for prototyping
@@leekyonionWhy speculate? It's literally the closing sponsor
I feel like McNally would LOVE to test out this lock! I'm not too sure with how long he's lockpicking for but I feel like this would be a good test of his skills on this masterpiece!
Mcnally!
You are using an "unpickable lock" by Works By Design. You can open it using an "unpickable lock" by Works By Design.
"this is a pick proof lock, it can be opened with a pick proof lock"😂
@@Crazyaturtle problem is i only got one pickproof lock, making it indeed pickproof. *pulls out a masterlock*
You have to oil it up first.
This is what genius, combined with obsession, combined with expertise looks like.
Its beautiful. Wish I had the time, I honestly dont know how you do but thanks for sharing with the rest of us.
This guy is good, it's like watching Stuff Made Here without all the fancy/expensive machinery.
So early Stuff Made Here really
@@jsteezy80 I for one can't wait for the inevitable McNally short where he applies the covert instruments set and the infamous L U B E to this lock to somehow pick it in a-and he used the single-sided jiggler again, great.
All the fancy machinery is overseas at send-cut-send.
also we didn't see all the iterations and redesigns and just cut to the working version
@@ovencake523worked the first time ;) minus some ill fitting pieces
Does this mean we get a 10 minute Lockpicking Lawyer video?
"to be continued"
The first 9 minute will be he talking about the youtuber and the lock, the last minute will be he demontrastes opening the lock 2 times so that we cant miss it
To make sure it was not a fluke
he don't make videos about a lot of locks he wasn't able to pick to make it looks like he can pick almost anything.
Nah, I want to see a 2hr long LPL video where he attempts a teardown and rebuild as well as the original pick 🤣
The people who have significant engineering prowess AND a fantastic ability to animate/visually represent their ideas by video are some of the most astounding channels. Instant sub!
Much agreed on both counts! This guy is a genius! I subbed, as well! Cheers!
Let's all pat ourselves on the back before we design a user interface for a Crow to use Autodesk products.
Or some mad scientist grafts a hand on one.
I saw that this lock was picked but disappointed it hasn’t been featured on the LPL channel.
You gotta give us a link, man.
th-cam.com/video/LWaglcRDWo0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=syn1N_MKbl6Mu-do
I clicked thinking it was Stuff Made Here and was immediately disappointed... For about a minute or two until I realized how good this video was gonna be. Great job
same here, it's a great video from every perspective i can think of
Same here. I ended subscribing to his channel maybe three minutes into the video.
Same here lol
Stuff made here is Taylor Swift compared to this guy.
@@cliffclofYou can enjoy things without denigrating others for no reason
One Lock for the Lawyer, King of the Pick,
One Lock for the mortal Locksmith, doomed to pry,
One Lock for the Pick-Lords of Discord and Reddit, who see no sky.
But they were all of them deceived, for another lock was made. The Dark Lord Works by Design forged, in secret, a Master Lock to control all others. And into this Lock he poured all his cruelty, his malice and his will to dominate all lockpickers. One Lock to rule them all.
And then it was opened in seconds by the one, small creature. This McNally hit the Master lock on a surface just the right way, and it unlocked itself.
And into this lock he poured all his cruelty, his malice, and a lot of tiny ballbearings.
@@CreativityNullDAMN IT, SPOILER WARNING NEXT TIME! lol
One lock to rule them all, one lock to find them, one lock to bring them all and in the darkness bind them!
I am a sucker for the classics
@@silvertheelf ... "Locks!
What are they good for?
Absolutely nothing!"
I enjoy the Classics, as well, as long as the message is heard, loud and clear.
Anything behind a Lock should have been Destroyed or Shared.
There is no good use for a Lock.
Happy to have offered a tiny bit of help on this one, in the form of some footage! Great project and great job!!!
I appreciate the help! And thank you!
Ingenious. Loved to see the thought process that went into this from someone who understands the problems. Shows again how important it is to know the other side.
Edit: the design for the key needs some work. I'd probably try a cylinder with a smooth skip/crater (don't know the english word for it) for the thumb and indexfnger... or something like a thin knob, a bit like a screwdriver grip.
Fluid bearings were an absolute genius move. Everything else is just icing on the cake. Even if someone figures this out, what youve done is nothing short of incredible
DUDE! So wholesome of you to gift one of the locks to the locksmith from the video! Amazing work!!!
Also gives him much more time with the lock and might eventually figure it out.
If I were that locksmith, and he gave me one, I'd have no life until I figured it out. I would be spending all of my free time obsessively trying get it open
seems like replacing the springs with a tiny pressurized ball-pit added randomness to the feedback of binding pins, thats pretty neat
edit: ballpit lock also sounds like a cool name for this style of lock.
the locksmith certainly thought so!
Yeah raking/bumping seems like the more reliable way to "pick" it since single pin picking would give strange feedback that would be very inconsistent.
Although with enough practice I'm sure there would be people who would grow adept at the feel. The only way to really help this lock would be to vary the pin/plate thickness and add false set drop ins such that a failed attempt or bumping would result in a bound lock.
PRESSURIZED
BALL
PIT
@@FR099Y That's a good point, the design is close to standard enough that the usual anti-bump/raking methods should still work to stop those attacks.
@@FR099Y Thats what I was thinking. But rather than the sharp bumps by hammering, use an electric toothbrush + bump key
@worksbydesign, this is one hundred percent amazing!
I would like to suggest a much simpler way to make a lock unpickable, namely having the job of the core and the cylinder reversed.
The lock's core is bolted to the cylinder housing, and cannot rotate.
The lock's shell can rotate around the core, but only when the correct key is in the core.
The rotation of the shell moves the latch or deadbolt in or out.
A thumb turn rotates a friction torque limiter which rotates the shell.
To lock or unlock is, the user puts their key in the core and rotates the thumb turn. The thumb turn rotates the torque limiter which rotates the shell which moves the latch in or out.
If a would-be lockpick tries to tension the thumb turn overly hard, the torque limiter will slip.
If the springs pushing on the pins are sufficiently stiff, more tension on the shell will be required than the torque limiter will transmit.
If you want to be evil, you could include a dashpot between the thumb turn and the torque limiter.
It would be interesting to see an implementation of this - my suspicion is that it wouldn't be possible to have a torque limiting clutch set loose enough to prevent tensioning while still allowing the lock to function normally, but I'm a long way from an expert and that's just a hunch
For what it's worth, while it'll never find commercial success in home locks for doors, vault lock mechanisms and the like have no upper limit for complexity or cost. Take a look at Fichet Bauche safe locks. They're essentially safe locks designed by someone who must have had a crossover passion with watch making or something else. Incredibly expensive and complex (but also beautiful). Great job!
I'm just grateful someone is inventing new locks. For 50 years, pretty much we have not seen much in the way of advances. Stuff like Medeco CLIQ and electro-mechanical cylinders may be around, but a lot have fallen prey to clever arrangements of magnets. Even though this design is something that might be tough to mass-produce, it is something that is greatly appreciated. I'd rather see businesses and people make stuff like this than another subscription based web service.
Some safes actually contain mechanical timers - they are just actually decent quality mechanical watches
The thing to keep in mind is that he only made this lock to be pick resistant. There are several other destructive means of bypassing the lock that wasn't addressed in this design.
@@melody3741 Modern bank safes/vaults with time locks (or time delay locks) would be exactly that I suspect.
@@OmegaZyion Well yeah, but for that you need to design a door and not a lock.
Those are some Aperture Science-tier animations.
I have always believed that if you can do something impossible, even if it’s over engineered to all hell, it’s the first step to making it possible. This is a fantastic lock! Thanks so much for putting so much hard work into this!
Wait can you kinda rephrase that sentence? I'm interested but confused lol
@joshyoung1440 ifyou can prove that an impossible act is possible even just 1% of the actual goal at great cost you have proven that it is possible after all.
The US and Russia going to the moon is a great example of this.
When’s lock pick lawyer gonna make a video about this?!?
Not only is it unpickable, but man does it have a really satisfying unlock! The push in and then the clicks all sounds so nice! Great work!
not lock is unpikable, like no compute is antihack
@@jorgecarvajal5385 thats nonsensical ... hacking means exploiting vulnerabilities, if there are no vulnerabilities to exploit the system is unhackable - the most primitive way being no access to the device outside of its limited input and output peripherals - imagine sealed container with only monitor and keyboard/keypad that are both encased in the container ... no net access, no ports to slot anything in
same concept here, lock can be made in a way that would make it impossible to pick, only problem is that for lock to be viable you also have to have it in reasonable format limiting space and the more unreasonable you make the design the more you are compromising reliability and raising the cost
and as far as i know LPL still havent been able to pick the Bowley and its been YEARS
@@Asghaad Picky Mcpick defeated a Bowley with a homemade bump key about 3 years or so ago, if I remember correctly. LPL, himself, said that he could defeat the Bowley and how, given the time to develop skills he's lacking. I think it's important to remember that while the Lockpicking Lawyer is a master at his craft, there are others who are arguably more skilled or with different skills than him when it comes to the hobby and profession (Bosnian Bill comes to mind).
From an engineering point of view outside of a professional setting this is absolutely remarkable. Well done.
The animations were just perfect. Even the color palette you chose was on point
I think Exactly the same! For the colors these pastel shades!
For a lock to be truly unpickable it has to be overengineered, great ideas you had, I could see this being actually used as a mechanical backup for some fancy electronic vault door.
Aight 1:45 is the coolest assembly animation I have ever seen... Just wow.
The animation is very cool! Kind of has a Portal vibe to it, when they show how the automated turrets are built
@@chrisbayus5189 I was about to comment the same thing, it definitely has Portal vibes
kinda reminds me of how the turrets were built in the valve portal videos
the sound effects is what got me. it gives such a uniquely professional feel to it
This is astonishing and it warms my heart!
There are no unpickable locks. There are just locks that are impractical to pick because the destructive method is so much simpler and faster. And this lock might slip into that category.
tho what he could also do to make it more resitant to destruction is make it out of AR500
@@nuclearboom2467you can even use a composite material called “Proteus” to basically be impossible to cut via ankle grinders
@@nuclearboom2467 Use 2 sheets of 1'' AR500, with a 1/2" layer of carbide in between for the front plate. And creamic inserts to stop angle grinders etc.
Just replace short strike plate screws with longer ones and door kickers will feel it.
@@tylersmith1468 You can always go for a shaped charge xD. There are few things that can withstand that.
I'm probably way in over my head, but as soon as you mentioned it had a "variable" design I realized a rake method will eventually get all the pins at the right way to open which is pretty on brand for the rake, so I'm glad I somehow got proven, and you had the transparency to leave that in the vid.
Regardless, the ideas, and production quality of this video is astounding, let alone the fact that it actually works to a degree. Great stuff!
The pins still have to be in a single keyed position to open the lock, it's just that the shear line is one sided, the lock is designed in such a way that the key pins also act like driver pins on the other positions when pushed. I assume the one he raked open just had bad bitting, which lends any pin tumbler style system to easy raking (and can be fixed by just re-keying)
No video from LPL yet... If there is, please drop the link. Tia
Responding here hoping someone drops a link as a response
@@garretreed9709 Same
same
That's a good sign. I imagine that means he's struggling to open it but not giving up.
@@junevillaflor4083 same
10:40 - man what a cool situation. Lock picking pro gets a call from a youtuber - "hey I'm trying to make an unpickable lock...can you bring your mobile lock picking rig to my place tomorrow morning at 8am? I'll show you an animation of how it works and pay you for the full hour and a half". I bet that's the best day ever for that guy
Must have been impressive to find a lock you can’t pick even after having an hour long seminar on how the thing is constructed and functions
Dude, PLEASE, make a fourth one and send it to McNally. This would be so cool for him to attempt!
didn't he work with/for LPL? they can share
LPL is the OG
Today, om going to pick an unpickable lock with an unpickabke lock
@@johnbenoy7532 Real
He'd need two of them
Genius design. It's one of those things that you see and immediately thing, "Why didn't I think of that!" I've been contemplating forging some kind of lock to stump LPL. Always wanted to make a padlock in the smithy, but never seem to get around to it. You've given me some ideas, that's for sure!
5:00 that face plate is only going to prevent front of the keyway tensioning, this is actually a fairly common issue in picking because they can make the front plate spin completely independently of the lock body if needed, the issue is you can defeat this if you just tension off of the first cylinder or the back of the core. I'm excited to see if this is fixed later in the video
Man did more research for a single lock than many lock companies did in their entire time of existence
Edit: guys, please don't take my comment so seriously, it's just a joke made after watching a few too many McNally's videos
The lock companies, including Masterlock, know perfectly well how to make good, hard to pick locks. It's really not that hard. They just don't care.
Remember lock companies are in the business of coming up with designs that can actually sell in the mass market for a profit, not making unpickable locks for lock nerds.
@@asystole_ I'll quibble with this only slightly - one thing lock makers are NOT in the business of doing is making the BEST lock that they can sell in the mass market for a profit. If they could sell you a lock made of paper for $40 they absolutely would.
Take MasterLock's "maximum security" padlocks: they are made of expensive materials like boron carbide and thick steel, but they are vulnerable to bumping, raking, often combing, they often have major design flaws that allow them to be bypassed (when a $0.02 plate would fix the problem), they have no security pins at all, etc. They are good for first time pickers to practice on! Maximum Security my ass!
But it sells well because the average joe knows how to cut a lock with bolt cutters, he doesn't know how to walk up to a lock and make a half hearted pick attempt to find out that this "high security" lock is actually utter garbage.
I can assure you, they did a lot of research. But their primary goal is not to make an unpickable lock. If you want an unpickable lock, you can buy an electronic lock. A mechanical lock must be cheap and reliable, otherwise nobody will buy it and the manufacturer will make no profits. Every overcomplicated lock design makes the manufacturing cost prohibitively high and introduce a lot of potential reliability problems. BTW, there are mechanical locks which are ALMOST unpickable (in real world applications) and simple at the same time, e.g. Abloy Protec2.
@@losarpettystrakos7687 Lol bro, half the electronic locks don't even need to be picked, they are so bad. All locks have to have a physical component, so all locks are vulnerable to physical attacks of various types. A good mechanical lock actually requires a high degree of skill to pick, which is not common. On the other hand, there's no telling if the electronic lock is any good just by the features list.
Suddenly, out of nowhere, this brilliant and amazing channel throws down an unpickable lock in front of LPL. And, true to form, LPL feels the disturbance and has risen to no doubt study this video, his opponent, for worthiness. BosnianBill remains on call, ready to make the custom tooling and Mcnally is pacing like a caged animal, sharpened carpentry square in one hand and a tube of personal lubricant in the other. We are watching hisyory being made, folks!
Hopefully he doesn't study the video. Honestly the only fair way to attempt to pick this lock would be to go in blind with no knowledge of the internals of the lock.
@PlaySA Security by obscurity is not a desirable design principle.
Obscurity doesn’t allow the principals and design choices implemented in the lock to be adequately challenged.
@@PlaySA In the video, the locksmith also saw how the lock worked, and still couldn't get through. But then again, maybe 35min wasn't long enough to study and make attempts at the lock.
Everyone is certain lpl will walk right over this but I want to see mcnally, if he can do it at all, do it so fast it's indistinguishable from magic
@@PlaySA red one hundred emoji
Hello and greetings from Serbia !
I accidentally came across your video, and even though I have zero knowledge about locks and lock peeking I watch the full video, and wanna congratulate you on your invention.
I'm happy to see young people inventing new stuff. Even if by any chance this thing gets picked, don't not give up on your goals, you'll get there.
It's really refreshing to see young inventors focusing their time on something nice and productive that could one day change the world, whatever that is.
Unfortunately, because of the way we live, and the system works, people have gotten cold, and don't have anymore time and will to create, which is a real disease of the time we currently live in.
Wish you and your family all the best !
Stumbled on this from shorts. The intro itself made me subscribe. Let’s say I was thoroughly entertained
PCBway get this man a cnc machining sponsorship
Or could save time and get a lock from Bowley
Abloy protec and a loaded 9mm is the most unlockable lock 😂 @@Supremax67
@@Supremax67but bowley is pickable
@@techheck3358 -- I prefer the ones that uses specifically placed magnets and if you put magnets at the wrong place, the lock becomes permanent until demagnetized.
a wire EDM sponsorship
20+ years lockpicker here, very clever design 👍
Honestly, understanding the clientele of high end locks, and so long as we don't find an extreme flaw in it, I can see this selling for BIG money and not being viewed as "too over complicated for market"
You just made a lock that kills the ability to feel pins. That alone is gold. You killed recognizable feedback. Also the overall design required for the lock to be housed lends itself to being incredibly cheap to produce in manufacturing but also extremely durable. You could make this lock either extremely cheap and fast or almost invincible to physical attacks depending on the dimensions you choose. I'm also not unconvinced that a physical attack wouldn't cause the lock to fail but rather warp and bind, effectively permanently locking itself shut. And an even COOLER design factor you can play with is due to each shim having its own outer ring housing (im just gonna call that whole layer of shim and its housing the shim stack) not only can you just keep adding shim stacks to make as many layer as you need but you can *individually control the thickness of each stack* so not only can you have an unknown amount of shims but EACH one can be a different thickness which means you have NOOO idea at what depth any shim is sitting at all while the ball bearing system is killing your feedback.
Imagine a lock that not only can you not feel where exactly the sheer line is but you can't be certain how many shims there are, let alone WHERE they are, you have to tension in two directions and have zero clue on how much force is needed for either way, the outer case sleeve can be built like a damn battleship, and if you smack the face of it with a hammer you run a chance of welding all the layers and cams and roller delays together and now no one's getting in.
That's a good lock and I would LOVE to see you go all out on the next revisions as if you were actually to to market against the big wigs. I think this has serious promise and at minimum taking this design to its absolute full tilt limits I think is going to be a substantial learning point for your skills and us as a community, keep it up, I'd love to try and pick one some day!
I think it’d work best set into a door deep enough that the outer casing wasn’t exposed, with a thick plate around the keyway to help prevent drilling attacks.
Yeah, lol he published it to the world and made it common knowledge so he can never patent it now. It just floors me how people trade all their Intellectual property rights for a few moments of ego boost from people that could care really less about them. It takes a lot of self control to first get with the patent attorneys and complete the proper filings before ever making anything public. Anyhow he may have made a lot of corporations a lot of money that they will NEVER share with him and he will be powerless when he sees them using his idea.
@@Truth-ii3tca lot of people aren’t motivated by money 🤷
@Truth-ii3tc well first first of "first to file" is a bit more finite than what you think, evidence of invention hold a lot of weight and until someone pops out a patent before him of this very thing he's got nothing to worry about. Also if you know anything about early firearms manufacturing in the US, sniping prototype patents can come at a high risk and no no way guarantee of control of the perfected form of the product you thought you had control over. As it turns out US patents are not a battle of "WELL BUT ITS CLOSE ENOUGH!!" You seem pretty charged over something that would take literally an evening for someone to announce as free use open material without having to worry about dropping a patent on a fully functioning model that hasn't been invented yet, he still doesn't have half of the function parts of the lock to be a lock design into the piece yet, it's literally just a core that does nothing and takes from pre existing fundamentals - which by nature makes patent sniping a fucking nightmare. Don't be a drama queen it's just a door lock and you did nothing to add any value to the conversation on it
The reason "unpickable" locks are not commercially viable is that their expense is not justified given the many other ways of getting through the door. Social engineering, going around the door somehow to unlock it from the inside, temporarily "borrowing" and copying the key, etc. Spending $1000 on an "unpickable" lock doesn't stop many of these other attacks - and the non-lockpicking attacks are often preferred by security specialists because they are so much easier/safer/faster. That's why the real challenge is to make a cheap slightly-difficult-to-pick lock with no trivially-exploitable flaws. And that's why LPL and McNally have such disdain for locks that are easily opened with a hammer (or another lock), or with comb picks, or with bypass attacks.
Add a custom resistor to your key that must allow a very specific tiny amount of current to pass through the key. No microchips, just complicated enough there isn’t necessarily a custom lock picking tool able to do this direct. Also potentially wire the circuit such that hard knocks to the lock make the resistance wobble wildly. The current could be used to turn on an electro magnet directly if it’s at the right voltage to pass through a transformer, but too much could burn out a “detector fuse” letting you know an attempt was made. Idk if this is feasible at all, but idk maybe
This is the type of lock that's going to invent a new lockpick
The *incredible* production value of this video, and the fact that it's available for free makes my brain lock up.
Is your brain pickable??
Great video! The animations are amazing and the engineering of the lock is amazing.
I think of locks like an "asymetrical warfare" tool against burglars: cheap yet very effective, but can be bypassed given enough ressources.
I am so grateful my locks aren't picking-proof, otherwise I would have slept outside more than once.
That's an odd reason to actually oppose pick-proof locks
Me too, but sometimes I get asked questions like "Who are you? How did you get in? Why are you sleeping on my sofa??"
@@BarbasTheDog I know right? I would be so much better if locks were unpickable. Then they'd say "He broke through the window!" STATEMENTS rather than questions. Big improvement
1:55 the dumping of the ball bearings into the cavity reminds me of the Portal turret being filled up with bullets!
I LOVE over engineered stuff that actually has a purpose (my personal moto is "If it worth doing, its worth overdoing"). Gives me chills. Keep it up.
dont forget mechanical designs like this are and always will be a form of art
what i like most is that it seemingly adds RNG to the picking experience without using electronics, overly complex mechanisms, or radically different key design.
This design definitely belongs in a museum
Lock Picking Lawyer called.
We (I mean humanity) simply don't have the technology yet, to challenge LPL's ability.
What about a standalone electronic lock with a 25 year builtin battery(there is a certain chemistry🤔), using ultra low power(100nA standby) electronics, operated by a bidirectional optical key with builtin power(a button cell), employing 1024 bit AES encryption!🤔
There are already cheap few dollars worth security processors(MicroChip)available today, that can do this without lifting a thumb!. It is just a matter of putting this together with other ultra low power electronic components(TI) with some creativity. In the end, it is limited by its tungsten body and the physical strength of the mechanical lock mechanism. You can always blow torch it to make it unopenable! forever🙄, but opening it intact without the key🤞.Goodluck LPL!🤯🤣❤️👍
@@aware2action Opens it with a twig, with two leafs on it. Under 3 minutes. Two times, just to show us, that the first attempt was not a fluke. XD
Thats the point.
@@Foga001he was beat by stuffmadehere before. He had to cheat to "pick" it.
Bro this video is crazy good haven’t seen one of these in a long time
Yeah another video! Don't worry about the quantity since you rock in quality 🎉
Thank you! Really appreciate that
One major flaw I see with this lock.
Destroy everything around the lock to gain access.
Great video! Glad to see another video of yours!
yah but destructive attacks are a diffrent thing altogether
And I don't see that as a flaw for this lock. As it has a placement design that works just fine in tight confines, thus being able to be placed within objects that defeat many versions of destructive attacks, like simply using incredibly durable materials. The point of destroying things around the lock is focused on that around the lock, and this lock is simply designed within regular confines, adding a 'housing' would unnecessarily add to the complexity of design.
Pretty much any lock can be drilled. That's not a fault of the lock.
That is true with any locks. Here in Finland burglars do not bother picking even the Abloy Classic: takes too much time and requires some special tools. Much more effective is to take a hydraulic jack, some two-by-fours and jack the doorframe apart, along with some persuasion with a crowbar. No expertise required when you use brute force.
uhm, he made a joke.
The animations alone in this video are deserving of a sub, let alone the absolutely crazy engineering that went into this lock. I can't wait to see LPL struggle with it and perhaps finally be defeated.
Ngl, i want a version of this with a clear outer shell showing all the intricate mechanisms
Unpickable or not, this is true and inspirational engineering; challenging yourself by striving for what others consider impossible. Thanks for sharing this with us.
5:30 I would unironically buy this “set” !
(As a way to support you too, not from some third party ripping off your hard work with no added innovation!)
(Edit: Added clarification because we don’t take to kindly to money grabbing clones in these parts 🤠)
If you'd like, the CAD files and drawings are available on my patreon now!
I wish I could replace all the locks in my house with these...but then I'd be terrified of losing or forgetting a key.
I love the animations you put in this. It really helps convey what your lock actually does.
I'm so glad you approached this design with more research (and humility) than your last. It's pretty clear that you've learned immensely, and have only gotten better for it. Looking forward to the new design from the community's input. All in good time, of course
You're back! Cant wait to see this picked.
This lock is insane! Watching the build, assembly, and pick attempts was very cool. I can't wait to see LPL work on it.
When the lockpicking lawyer fails to pick it, I expect a launch date soon.
Not really because servicability is virtually nil if anything went wrong or the key needed to be changed.
And in what door will you put it?
I do not say it is impossible, but locks are weakest, and to be honest- obsolete almost, link in security.
If he can’t then send it to youtube.com/@mcnallyofficial?si=W8y7ZfDHWMROnTZG
@@chrisloveall2821there are definitely things you could do to make this type of lock more serviceable. I don’t totally understand how it works but the design seemed simple enough that taking out the main through pins might allow one to take it apart. Idk I didn’t make it and don’t have the strongest understanding of what makes something easily serviceable.
@@chrisloveall2821 at that point you can just use thermite or punch it out.
Those animations blow my mind every time
holy what i thought the animations of the locks were stock until your design showed up they're really really smooth! I love the unceremonious dumping of the BBs into the lock, reminds me of the old Portal 2 animations
ive seen some other vids about people trying to make unpikabble locks but this one blew my mind away!! great concept!!
EVERYONE WAKE UP IT’S THAT TIME AGAIN
skibidi toilet rizz
When you love engineering and puzzle solving, you love any machine period. BRAVO loved the video and keep at it.
Man I’m blown away by your design ability, your animations, your explanations, and your overall skill and intelligence. I LOVE this video. It is a masterpiece, and you should definitely send this to LPL and McNally to have them give it a go.
"I believe its what the first lock wanted to be" and proceeds to start that magestic montage with the tune.
The fact that there is the Lock Picking Lawyer picking locks and Works by Design making locks that are "unpickable" and sending them to the Lock Picking Lawyer - then being shared online is exactly the reason the internet was invented. LOL
I mean, technically the internet was invented to still maintain a communication infrastructure after a nuclear attack on the United States but sure, I know what you mean :D
This video alone is worth a masters degree… you sir did more research than most to get their title…
great animations, great tempo, great info-density, great exaplanations, interesting construction, great video!
1:49 was really satisfying
5:20 Before you can sell it you need to make sure it will withstand the test of time. With all those moving parts & bee bee's its likely going to seize up at some point & if that happens.. You'll have to saw through whatever it is you need to enter. Assuming it is unpickable of course, Which ive never heard of anything made that doesn't have a issue somewhere.
It's so nice to see somebody, anybody, working against security by obscurity. Great work!!
Yes, the lock is a step up in some ways from the previous, but more importantly and more subtly, this video is a step up from the previous one. You acknowledge your inspirations, your animations and script improved, you clarify the purpose of the lock (not solely what's on the tin, an attempt at an "unpickable lock," but also that we're here to have fun and not to make a marketable product, setting a better stage), super appreciate all the effort that went into this. This is the TH-cam I want to see, collaborative (even if not always directly), playful, while still having room for technical. I didn't subscribe last time, but this time I 100% did and rang that bell. Thank you for caring. Keep it up!
Dude I cannot wait for LPL to look at this
1:50 - this animation is absolutely excellent.
I was just as impressed by the fold out tab key idea!
Your animations are beautiful and educational. Your explanations of the mechanisms made it clear what your thought process was. I would love to watch a longer video of you showing how you machine and build everything.
I really like how you use laser-cut 2D shapes! A very dedicated person with a metal file and some other hand tools could technically make most of this as well, so it somehow feels more relatable than these $100K CNC-machine videos.
It's really refreshing seeing a TH-camr work with more approachable manufacturing methods!
I'd like to see another video where you explain in detail what went into your design decisions (perhaps on a second channel?). Also, really cool animations! I bet that was a lot of work!
ikr, thats why i don't get why some commenters seem to think this would be impractical for a commercial lock, you can mostly cut it from plates and tiny metal balls are easy to come by
@@sperzieb00nToo complicated to be commercially viable. You just know the average user would destroy it in a week of use.
It's really not that over engineered. Actually quite smart and compact
May I just say that it’s very clear that you worked hard on this lock and video. The animations, engineering, the drawings, b roll , music etc.. Very entertaining and inspiring to see. Makes me want to create something cool as well.
The animation reminds me of Portal.
Especially the turrets firing the whole bullet sequence, superbly smooth.
Really cool project, I don't exactly understand how the balls work, but I think I understand the effect it gives, really smart idea to incorporate a mechanic from a vice into a lock really clever. Watched the old video too and this seems to be a slight new way to thinking how to goabout making it lockpick resistant. Amazing project!
on top of replacing the individual springs, the pressurized ball-pit adds a level of randomness to the "picking feel" because of how it makes pins interact with each other, and because of how the balls interact with the pins (every ball is essentially a false pin that could bind in a complex way with all the other ones)
Desperation and pressure breeds innovation. God I live engineers, I also love the factors that force engineers to think the way they do.