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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 พ.ค. 2024
- Gulikit King Kong 3 Max (Amazon US AFFILIATE): amzn.to/3T0mzVU
Gulikit King Kong 3 Max (Amazon UK): amzn.to/3T0mzVU
Gulikit King Kong 3 Max (Official Website): gulikit.com/productinfo/11304...
The King Kong 3 Max has been greatly anticipated for the last year, as the successor to what was the very first widely available anti stick drift pro controller; the King Kong Pro 2. With the same $80 MSRP, they've massively overhauled the controller to serve a much more demanding audience of pro controller users. Paddles, trigger stops, wired, wireless, it's all here... for Switch of course. Xbox & PlayStation may NEVER see pro controllers this good for this cheap, but time will tell I suppose. Anyways, I hope you guys enjoyed this one. If you did please be sure to drop it a like and sub if you're new! I'll see y'all in the next one!
Timestamps
0:00 - 1:32 Intro
1:32 - 3:04 An Upgraded Spec Sheet
3:04 - 3:38 Accessories & Case
3:38 - 4:47 1ms Response Time Wired & Wireless
4:47 - 6:13 Anti Stick Drift Hall Effect Thumbsticks
6:13 - 7:00 Adjustable Stick Sensitivity
7:00 - 7:24 Stick Size & LED Rings
7:24 - 8:44 Rear Paddles & Buttons
8:44 - 9:40 Adjustable Clicky Triggers
9:40 - 9:58 Dampened Bumpers
9:58 - 10:27 Size & Rubber Grip
10:27 - 11:08 Teardown (Battery, Switches, Rumbles, etc.)
11:08 - 11:55 Custom Membrane ABXY Switches
11:55 - 12:21 Disappointing Membrane D-Pad
12:21 - 13:01 Potential Reparability
13:01 - 13:42 Button Combinations & Features
13:42 - 14:44 Auto-Pilot Gaming
14:44 - 15:41 Reliability Issues (ABXY, Connection, Triggers)
15:41 - 16:34 1 Year Warranty & Firmware Updates
16:34 - 19:33 Conclusion
Software I use for testing 👇🏽
VDX (Convert Xinput to Dinput & vice versa): buildbot.nefarius.at/builds/V...
HIDUSBF (Tool I use for overclocking): github.com/LordOfMice/hidusbf
XinputTest (Response time testing. May need VDX for certain devices): github.com/chrizonix/XInputTest
JoyResTester: drive.google.com/file/d/0Byyg...
Useful hardware I often recommend 👇🏽
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Socials 👇🏽
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PC Specs
CPU: Ryzen 7 5700G
Graphics: RTX 3070 KO
Ram: 32gb DDR4 4000mhz from G.Skill
Motherboard: MSI X470 Gaming Plus MAX
Power Supply: 700w BQ EVGA Bronze PSU
Video & Audio
Camera: Lumix G7
Mic: Sennheiser ME2
Headphones: Astro A40 TR
Video Production: Adobe Premiere Pro 2023, After Effects 2023, Photoshop CS6
Audio Production: Audacity
Peripherals
Keyboard: RK Royal Kludge bullshits
Mouse & Pad: Razer Hyperflux Pad W/Deathadder Elite
Controllers: ALL OF EM
Keypad: Azeron Compact
Displays
Main Monitor: BenQ EX3415R 34 Inch Ultra-Wide (144hz @3440x1440)
TV: The same Toshiba TV from 2012 that you had
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Even if I'm not looking to buy a new controller I still really enjoy your reviews you always make me laugh 😂
you and gamer heaven keep me in the loop with these controllers. i appreciate your reviews man!
Actually an in depth review, every other video I’ve seen either cover barely much or cover everything but don’t really describe anything well. Thanks for this review!
Very good review, found you like a month ago while researching for a new buy. Love that you point out flaws and interesting features respectively. I feel like most of the others reviewers get all soapy and over praise their new toys. What you said about this controller was exactly what i kinda found online about it too, cool
Vcuda I hope you are having a good day your vids are always amazing you give so much information
Amazing review, I'm enjoying this controller its been a roller coaster of issues with it. First i had connectivity issues that still exists but has gotten better with the firmware updates. The buttons not being mechanic was very misleading and i even got the replacement ns33 kit and its still the same buttons that came with the controller. My triggers started making creaking sounds but oiling them up fixed it. I don't use the paddles but i heard they're breaking on people.
I loved the vid boi! I hope you’re feeling better !💪🏽
Thank you so much man! Your support is appreciated
@@vCudanp , I’ve missed the uploads bruda
Been watching you for years, absolutely hilarious shit
Keep it up. And i learn things about shit i wanna waste money on. Thanks for helping me make poor financial choices with the best tech
NGL based on your review I picked up the BIGBIG WON R2 Pro, with dock and sticks - for £67 I kept it - if the performance is there, price absolutely still matters and this shines - no pun. It really does perform, back buttons are superb, bumpers also, so much to be happy with in this controller and since they ALL seem to have some weak points, finding what works for you is key.
Bro went hard on controller reviews mad props
Your review is the one I'm waiting. But I jumped ahead and bought it already tho lol. Not disappointed tho, blows away my series x controller in every way except the dpad. Good video.
Thanks man! Glad you enjoy your device
Great review as always! You're reviews are the best for controllers srsly. Can you review the Vader 3 Pro, I can't make my mind on which one should I buy this controller or the Vader.
i'd like to see you do a tier list video for all controllers, ur the most qualified youtuber to do so
Had this controller for a few weeks, out of the box everything seemed great. Responsive, liked the paddles, buttons, bumpers, ect. Now the sticks were my issue. First the actual thumbstick has no grip, I thought I was headcasing about it. After I took the controller apart and put on stock xbox sticks it felt much better. By the way, for owners of the controller you don't have to do that. They make different sticks for this controller, specifically more grippy. I've only seen them on aliexpress so far, but they are available.
I wanted this controller to be my new main controller for comp FPS games. Even after swapping thumbsticks something still felt off. I had a buddy order one around the same time and he was complaining about the sticks feeling loose. I chalked up my complaints to that and returned it. Maybe it was that, maybe it's just retraining your brain after using potentiometer sticks for 20+ years to get used to it. Regardless the Apex 4 has HE sticks and a tensioner so I am ordering one of those to continue my search for a new FPS main controller.
Great video dude
I'm really looking forward to when companies that have great software and firmware as well as QC start using the hall effect sticks and real mechanical switches.
Got one recently and been loving it, only problems are the battery is silly small and the dongle might need some replugging a few times before Windows sees it as active to connect the controller. For the price it's fantastic.
Which the case design could cater for the paddles being attached or have a paddle case there instead of the tweezer things
I got your message J keep up the good work 👏
You did a Apex 4 review? I just ordered one from ali express this morning. Fingers crossed I get it this year.
My boy is the best!!
Best review so far. I've had it a couple weeks and so far its kicking the shit out of my xbox elite series 2 for FPS games on pc. The sticks are straight fire. Paddles feel great, 1ms response time on an xbox style controller LFG
How does the back button configuration feel compared to the elite series 2? That's really my main concern
@@fudgeasdf They arent as high end but the feel is similar. I use 4 paddles with a finger for each paddle and after the first day got used to it just fine. Easy transition.
@@capnm0istbeard441 do the gaps between the paddles and shell not feel off?
@@fudgeasdf not nearly as bad as the youtube reviews make it seem. I thought i would have to bend them in a vise or somthing but when it arrived i found it was fine. kinda make the lower paddles easier to activate with my ring fingers. I use the lower paddles to switch wepons and ping.
@@capnm0istbeard441 Thanks for the info!
The QC issues popping up on Reddit for this seemingly new controller is concerning, it doesn't feel like only a few people are experiencing this among the masses.
Well Amazon or Aknes doesn't sell these in my region so I don't want to take the risk with it.
Will be waiting for your review on the Apex 4 and Cyclone pro, take care bud!
Always great content!! What are your thoughts on Razer controllers nowadays? Do you have any insight on if they are planning to release a new controller anytime soon? Seems like the last few drops have been flops
first time viewer. your test methodology (x-input tester) for latency doesn't show actual in game latency. its not 1ms its around 4 in actual use. you missed most of the problems with the gryo being unusable. other than that your review is spot on, great presentation. im gonana click subscribe to see more of your content
No software remapping and lack of a gyroscope is currently a bit of a turnoff for me, but good on them for upgrading.
Gonna stick with my 8bitdo for now.
Try the Flydigi Apex 4 then. I have this Gulikit King Kong 3Max and Flydigi Apex 4. I prefer Flydigi Apex4. It has gyro and the mapping is done thru. the small display on the controller itself. Nice.
Welcome back
That’s a fly jacket… 😏😂
Great review. I love the feature set of this controller, it's too bad about those build quality problems though so unfortunately it sounds like I'll be skipping it. So tired of crummy membrane buttons and horrifically shitty dpads. I'll be keeping an eye out for their next one, if they can just nail down those build issues then it'll be an easy buy.
Nice tendo jacket
I can't wait for the top 10 Video.
I've never seen a better controller review holy shit
3:38 please take into account that response time and polling rate are different things. This controller has a 1000hz polling rate, but the response time/latency are still at 30ms when wireless from other ppls measurements, and 3ms wired.
ill see you back in the future
There is nobody better than this kid
The triggeers and back paddles are flimsy and known to break, that's the major issue besides the initial high input lag in wireless not the face buttons
7:20 I've had my Turtle Beach Stealth Ultra for a month now (Got it at launch in Australia on January 26), and I can report no issues to speak of. Not even that grinding on the sticks.
A bit weird how I'm the odd one out here, only needing to manage lighting and screen brightness due to bad battery life if at full brightness. But I did expect that, and the life is now actually good with what I got set up on it.
Yeah, I also have it over a month now and put some serious hours into it in fps and racing games and zero issues. So far I'm happy, and if it really fails in the next year or so I just send it back to amazon
@@S3mj0n By then, there probably is going to be another Hall Effect controller that'll be wireless. But if we're anything to go by, I think Turtle Beach was able to dial in the QC after the first month. Thank goodness that my Australia release was that much later. :)
Cuda what’s your primary go to contoller. I’ve had my Wolverine Razer for years and now I need a new controller. Any suggestions?
I returned this controller on day 2. I like the controller but the back buttons are weird af. Also the g3 button kept sticking in(just on day 2). If you use back buttons they felt too hard to press and back paddles dont really have a good configuration to use. Really liked the controller, wish it worked out. Also the wireless dongle felt floaty for me. I agree wired felt better.
as a switch player
finally we have a good alternative to the power a fusion
I have this controller since the start of february and I think it's great. However, the right joystick came slightly off center and the right bumper creaks a little bit.
Thanks!
Thank you man! I appreciate you going out of your way to support the channel
The "to the point" guys back. Yippy, an Vcuda upload... "👍"...
Comparison between Gulikit KK3 and Flydigi Vader pro please. Thanks.
The firmware update process is the best out of these controllers I have seen so far, and I've got the 8BitDo Ultimate, Cyclone T4 Pro, GamSir various models, PB Tails Crush and now the KK3 Max. It's so quick and simple, just drag and drop the firmware file and the controller does everything else and disconnects - How much more simpler can it get?
This is the same reason I went with the Vader 3 Pro. The membrane face buttons and the horrible implementation of the clicky triggers of the KK3 Max are the biggest deal breakers. I don't get why this happened knowing that the Vader 3 Pro has been out for months at this point.
VCUDA IS BACK
just ordered this, but saw the gamesir g7 se is cheaper and people seem to like it. what do you think i should do?
I loved my GKKP 2, until I got the 3 and now I love that instead ... Though it does have some connectivity issues with my Steam Deck where it won't want to pair if I let the battery get low.
i bent the back paddles to where i like them made it so much better lol. The 2.5 ghz connection i never had a problem. The only thing that ticks me off are the triggers. That button has to much slop and buttons feel cheap and like they will break if hit to hard.(i dont use the dpad to much so no comment there lol)
I have heard a LOT of issues regarding the backpaddles. People say they break easily because the mechanism is made of plastic and the tension of putting them on and off and pressing them ends up breaking them.
It seems to be a common issue here in the early hours of the comment section on this video. May do an update to address this issue further. As I stated in the video, PowerA did this with their paddles and the same shit happened. Same design too!
paddles suck, why don’t companies just use buttons 😂
I just bought the controller . 😢 I hope mine doesn’t have issues I’ve been through 10 elite controllers and 1 victrix gambit
@@CraftyDex look into razers controller wolverine version one is the best controller i’ve ever used
Yo Vcuda what is your preferred stick layout Xbox or PlayStation style?
Speaking personally this is a skip controller. I am on my third one.
1st one had issues with the face buttons.
2nd. The LB would only actuate specifically in the center and wouldn't turn on after a firmware update
3rd. This one seems fine however when trying to use it and charge it can freak out.
I have received a a refund each time and manage to keep the last one whilst getting a refund but I will be buying the flydigi Apex 4
go and buy the apex 4 instead
I just wish these companies would commit to better back buttons. I'm tired of the Eswap being my only option because of having bigger hands. :(
Hey im thinking about getting a new controller and idk which to get between the elite series 2 and the victrix pro bfg which one is more reliable
You should do a setup tour
Are you gonna do a review of the new Turtle Beach controller?
"tactile" doesnt really mean anything. Its a controller. everything about it is tactile. But for some reason the controller industry found a way to make people think it means "clicky buttons" which in turn made a lot of people translate that into meaning that it has mechanical switches. Kinda fascinating really.
There are even some people (saw reviews of this very controller) who believe that clicky = mechanical. Like, sure, this stuff is membrane and the shame’s really on them for initially writing “mechanical” on their website (yeah, that was a thing)… but then I can’t just take some reviewers seriously when their way of “dubunking” that claim or say it’s unlikely was just… to listen for sound?? Literally, there’s that one person that just brought their mic up close and said oOoOo look! It’s not clicking! That’s not how mechanical switches are supposed to sound, take a listen! (*proceeds to playing audio samples of Cherry MX Blue switches actuating*) Surely that can’t be mechanical!
Really tends to show people don’t really know what mechanical *_switches_* are in a broader sense. I guess not everyone is a keyboard nerd! But yeah, this stuff is membrane, you could indeed argue it’s “tactile”… because that just could mean virtually anything (just not in the sense of Cherry MX Browns or Blues and whatnot). Words are merely what we make them, they’re not precise, more often than not.
super nice controller! Love it over all, except for the triggers. the triggers are hot, burning garbage
so buddy where is the stealth ultra, i need to know what you think 😤
dude why aren't you a bigger channel? that was an insta sub
When will this come out for Xbox and how hard can I repetitively slam the paddles before they break?
Why haven’t you don’t a flydigi video yet on the Vader pro 3 or the new apex 4? What do you have against flydigi cuda!?!!
Vader has a finished script and the Apex has completed notes it just needs a script. Then it’s on to shooting, editing, and uploading both next to each other 🤯
@@vCuda when? i cant wait any more :(
Your videos are awesome dude; who else can make controllers fun all while I have actually no fucking clue what your talking about, need less to say I had never heard of this controller and I am now going to try it hoping it’s not dogshit like the rest of every controller made
17:46 😂 most accurate third party controllee fight
Man they are the 2 sigma's of controller manufracturers/brands
I would also add gamesir maybe but eitherway 8BitDo... GuliKit... are 2 of my favorite respectable brands they do the stuff others wont
I used the auto gaming recording feature ir whatever its called to farm my Elden Ring character to max kevel
What contoller on xbox has the highest polling rate stock
Would have highly recommended this controller especially for the price but where it falls short for me is the triggers and rear paddles. One of the triggers has much more play i noticed than the other trigger and i play on the shortest trigger throw. 2nd the back paddles have a tendency to stick due to the back squares they fit on rub against the sides which is HUGE buzzkill for me and now making it unplayable in some games.
can you use usb c cable to make it corded controller?, can you charge it with usbC ? can you use it while change via usbC cable?
20 k more till 100k almost there
I can’t wait!
Why don't you review the turtle beach stealth ultra ?
i need ur skincare routine
Man looks like he is ready to wake up in the morning and before the sun and keep digging that hole till the day is done.
Zero 😂
Are they still using the same fragile trigger button ?
06:28 Can someone explain what does he mean after the time-stamp, about hall effect creating a new and improved anti stick problems? He also explains it with "Future Dude--->" watermark on the right bottom quadrant while there are circles inside something outer coordinates wth?!
If your stick resets a few degrees right of the center point for example, at %150 sensitivity that effect is dramatically worse. Meaning, any slight drift is amplified with the increase in thumbstick sensitivity
I have this controller. Overall it's nice but when compared to Flydigi Apex 4, I would recommend Apex 4 over this one. Built quality wise and the bottoms mechanism is way better with Apex 4. And you have a small display on the controller for you to do the botton mapping. You can even tighten the joystick resistant as per you liking.
can u test with 2 controllers connected on BT.. and play some games if it stutters, lag and fps drop? can u?
bcoz i have 2pcs kk2 pro
gameplay is so bad, game stutters, lag and fps drop while playing.. i have to connect the other controller with USB and no more issue..
i need to know if kk3 max does not have that issue.. thanks
I just bought and whenever I’m on fort building it sort of jitters up a bit what is that about ? Like the joysticks moves up but not stick drift it literally just jitters up a bit
Tbh I’ve come to the conclusion that if your on pc your probably a sweat(can aim regardless of stick drift) so envision pro still stomps but with warzone mobile coming out I think this will still be a good investment for mobile gaming
My rear buttons broke on 2 kk3 max’s
You're LOVING beamng... me too!
Damn this took a while to come out
Yeah it was about a month unfortunately. I’ll be honest with you, I’ve been very depressed. Doesn’t mean I should quit uploading though, my apologies
@@vCuda HEy Man, subbed 2 days ago, thanks for the upload, was waiting for this, keep slaying, no im not a bot, am very sleepy, this the last comma
@@vCuda you saying that you're depressed is a completely valid reason to stop uploading, but just know that a solid portion of your subscribers (whatever you consider us) won't hold that against you. We love you regardless, let alone, the content you work hard for. So props to you for mentioning it and even bigger props for posting anyways. I don't mean to be cliche/cheesy, but it's the best I've got for wording. Keep kicking ass Cuda. Take care, forever and always.
@@vCuda and thanks for another killer review
Weed helped me, honestly.@@vCuda
Hey, please include a trigger distance test, controllers like the gamesir g7 despite having clicky or full options and hall effect, have a short max distance for non clicky and is significantly less then the full range you get on a Microsoft controller. for racing games especially this is not good. It would be great to know these kinds of things in your review especially with how bad customer service is with these companies :(
Make a video on the EVA elite controller apex made for $199.99 us
what is the best pro controller for xbox Cuda? w/ 4 paddles
has he reviewed the FLYDIGI Vader 3 Pro yet?
bro hibernated
Hey dude I was hoping that I could get in touch with you on discord and ask you some questions about pcbway! I'm trying to build a custom controller from scratch and i've been laying things out for the past month or so.
Hey I'd like some general feedback from the goat as I make my controller! Things like should a screen be on a controller or not would be the questions I was going to ask as I'm still in the process of designing base layout(s).
check out the new turtle beach controller
The paddles get sticky after a long time use. Had to return mine. Good controller. But not durable
Are we still getting the review for the turtle beach?
Yessir
I noticed my all my buttons have macros how do I turn it off? My X,Y,B,A has them on currently .
Hold the gear icon and press the face button you wish (ABXY)
19 min video of vcuda being vcuda 🥶🥶🥶🥶
Anti drift great, glitchy returned the first one after tried to update would not reboot, second one returned kept freezing.
Is it better than the gamesir g7 se ??? 🤔
The QC on these controllers is terrible the top left back paddle became sticky within 3 days of playing with it
Broke my back button within a week😅
🙌
Next up is the Apex 4!
Just returned this controller very Glitchy, although zero drift is nice the rest not so good.
Bro if only this was for xbox i would buy immediately
As an owner of the KK2 and this new one, its definately worth upgrading, especially if youre going to buy a back up or replacement, since its only 10 bucks more. The ONLY downgrade for me with this controller was the lack of a rubber grip, and instead that sandpaper plastic grip these controllers have been doing lately. Completely servicable , just not my preferred feel. Doesnt impact my gameplay so I can overlook that. This plastic feel extends to the top of the controller, no more silky rubber feel on the top. Just smooth plastic. I can twist the controller casing pretty hard and NO CREAKING, so it feels like a quality build. The Dpad on the KK2 was competent and OK for non-fighting games, but not great. The Dpad on this KK3 is similiar but just feels alot better. Higher quality movement, less popping when you shift it around. Ive actually been using it for 2D games and I have better options like the M30 by 8bitdo, for 2D games. It works pretty well for them. The back paddles are great, though hard as hell to pop into the back. Feel like im going to break some shit, but they seem pretty good, if you like the Elite 2 style of paddles. Still prefer Scuf's Series X controller for back paddles. Fingers sit perfectly in the button groove for me. The sticks now have anti friction rings which feel alot better when rotating around the edges. One new thing I love, is the ability to adjust stick acceleration on the fly(sensitivity). There is LED's around each stick now and depending on the color it shows you which sensitivy each stick is set to. No longer is there a mode for no deadzone or more deadzone, now its just set to No Deadzones no matter what, for both sticks. What you adjust now is the sensitivity of each stick. I was playing Super Monkey Ball Deluxe on PS2 recently, through the emulator, and I was able to set the sticks to low sensitivty mid course, to manuever over some really thin paths that usually fuck me up with regular controller sensitivity. Its a cool tool to fuck with mid game. There is also trigger stops now and they are pretty good. Similiar to the Elite 2 where theres a little bit of movement before you hit the stops. Not in the mouse click style of the Scuf's. You still have the macro and turbo features and pretty much everything else the previous model had. The face buttons are also more in line with the quality of a Series X controller. The buttons dont get stuck like they did in the previous model. With the Brooke 2 adapter you can use the controller wirelessly on Series X, and ive had no disconnects, super responsive. Little bit of a pain in the ass to sync sometimes when switching devices frequently, but the last controller had the same issue. Battery life with the LED lights on is pretty shitty. It seems like after a 2 or 3 hour session the lights are flashing. Luckily it charges fully by my next gaming session. Wired is never a bad way to play anyway, so thats always an option. Got a few 10 foot USB C's and I sit close. This is no worse than the DualSense controllers, battery wise. Maybe I should try shutting off the LED's, but I usually only play in 2-3 hour intervals with breaks inbetween. Its a nice upgrade overall.
For anyone unfamiliar with the difference these hall sticks make, boot up a twin stick shooter. Try one of these controllers (KK2 in no deadzone mode, or this one normally) and compare it to an OG Xbox controller. The difference in how accurate and quick the aiming moves is huge. Thats where you can really get a feel for the difference. Its crazy how much deadzone most of these controllers have. Even my 300 dollar scuf controllers. Hoping to see hall sticks get implemented in more controllers. Regular Xbox and Elite controllers are the worst. Massive fuckin deadzone. Dont know how the fuck that passed testing. I noticed it since the Xbox One. I thought 360 sticks felt pretty good, and PS3. PS5 controller is decent too. These hall sticks crush everything I tried though, as far as responsiveness of movement. Most of my muscle memory is from using deadzone controllers however. So that plays a part in why I might use a Scuf or something with more deadzone for specific types of games like an FPS. I think that just comes down to re-training my brain. I also like a little tension on the sticks and these sticks are a little too light for shooters, for me. I use medium tension or Xbox 360 stick tension on the Elite 2 for those types of games. The Flydigi Pro 4 has adjustable tension, rubber grips, hall sticks and other similiar features, plus clicky micro switch face buttons and Dpad. Pretty much all the features I wanted in a single controller. Should have that in by tommorrow. Interested to see how it stacks up to this. Its about twice the cost, so it better be improved. Im pretty obsessive about using different controllers for different types of games. Really enjoy finding the "right" tool for a specific game. I have 4 modded Joysticks as well that I switch between. I like completing a high volume of playthroughs on the channel and enjoy old and new games equally, gameplay being king.
if no is paying you to do it, please do not ever type that much shit again. also why tf you doing reviews in the comment section of a review video on the same controller.
That must've been painful to read. I only ever read shit Im not interested in when I want to punish myself. @@terps641
Bro i had this controller for 2 days and back g3 button just stuck in. Thats my jump paddle in cod. Good controller but i wish the back buttons were reliable
That sounds shitty. I have not actually used the back paddles on this thing yet. I only popped em in a few times to check out the feature. I rarely use back paddles but its a cool feature for certain games, for me. I find creative uses for em sometimes. Good to know. I was not feelin the quality of those back paddles when I had to brute force those fuckers into the back. Dont like when putting something in feels like your going to break the controller. Makes me not wanna fuck with em. For me I dont like leaving back paddles in since it changes the way the controller feels, holding it normally. Atleast these ones do. Scuf has the right idea with thier Xbox controllers. Theyre both out of the way, and right by your fingers, ready to fire off. No taking shit off or putting it back on. I would be less likely to use them , because I dont want to break the shit.@@Deleterfps
TH-cam deleted my response. That sounds like shit. I only tested them for a few seconds, but did not like how it felt like the controller would break any time I put them in or tried to remove them. Real shitty design with that too. @@Deleterfps