@@swegga4530 Well, it's one of my seven controllers, so I don't use it every day. But it still works as expected! No stick drift! It gets an easy recommend from me.
I forgot to clarify, I don't see something like the ASTRO C40 or the Gulikit controllers as being the first "Anti-stick drift pro controllers." Swappable thumbsticks are not a fix in my opinion, and the King Kong controllers, while great, don't have buttons on the bottom so I don't consider them pro controllers in the competitive sense. I've said this before but I neglected to bring it up this time my mistake!
I use the purple mid rise galaxy on my white 8bitdo so that was a little surreal initially lol however, it's been a while, I only ever use the Gamesir G7 now. (also with a purple mid rise galaxy mind) ..Gamesir G7 ...............GAMESIR G7!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes, YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES. Come on man you're way behind LOL ;P OK jesting aside, 8bitdo do (lol) so much right, but once I used the Gamesir G7 there was no way back. If the Gamesir G7 had hall effect sticks, and trigger stops, that's an endgame controller right there, mostly.
You also forgot to say that the backbuttons are not extra buttons on software or driver level, so they cant do a different extra action in-game that you don't already have asigned to an existing button like A, B or RT. What I mean is that those buttons are not recognized as an L3 or R3 in driver level in any circumstance so they are just extra buttons that can't do anything in the case you want an extra action
@@lenh8612 Hall effect sticks require more precise voltages so the PCB itself needs some changes as well. Some people have successfully made Frankenstein modifications to swap out regular potentiometer sticks but it's not for the faint of heart, simply swapping the sticks out is not possible unless it's a Joy-Con stick or something like the sticks they made specifically for the Steam Deck, which comes with its own mini PCB to handle all the conversions (which is why the Steam Deck Gulikit stick is extra pricey).
This controller is awesome. The thumb sticks, however, were rubbing against the edges of their insert, causing some unnecessary wear, so I bought some inexpensive silicone protectors and reduced the max stick range to 98%. Works flawlessly. Heavy, heavy usage, but haven't experienced any drift yet.
if i end up using some kf precision rings (for stiffer tension) do you think it will accomplish the same effect of protecting the stem of the stick from wear?
I have had the 8BitDo Ultimate for 3 months and have zero issues whatsoever with stick drift or connectivity. I use the charge dock as 2.4ghz wireless connection on my PC and it INSTANTLY connects in literally 2 seconds every single time without fail, and makes a satisfying rumble when it connects... D-Pad is great (I've heard that is 8BitDo's specialty apparently). I got some Skull n Co universal thumbstick grips which work fine, and as in this video was able to barely pop my Xbox KontrolFreek thumbsticks onto this controller. If it came with interchangeable stick lengths and thumb covers it would be near perfect. Highly Recommend.
Whoever brings out the first pro controller with 4 paddle and hall sensor triggers and sticks is going to dominate the market, most likely. I know I'd buy two if they made such a controller.
Yea, I love the elite 2, because of the paddles. But the quality issues are annoying and a scam. I'm waiting for Elite 3 to see if they improve. My other hope is Steam, with a new Steam Controller.
I never understood the idea of 4 paddles on the back, its redundant, I guess the only use would be for macro. There only two buttons you press at all time anyway when using both joysticks and fighting games you never use the right side joystick anyway. Just drives up the cost even more
@@SMGJohn You bind all 4 face buttons to the 4 back buttons. Your thumb would never have to leave the thumstick when playing shooters, for an example..
I bought this controller based off of your review back in February 8 months ago. Absolutely love it!! Pros and cons: cons first, no trigger stops, only has 2 back paddles wish it had 4, wish I had extra buttons to map to keybinds, wish it had built in audio jack. Pros: still running 1% deadzones in November, aim still feels perfect and precise. Charging cradle is really sleek and functional. I remapped ads and fire to front bumpers, best decision ever for FPS games. I can highly recommend this controller for fast paced FPS pc gaming. I have an Xbox KontrolFreak on my right stick for precise aiming and it fits very snugly, never ever has it came off, it’s a little difficult to remove.
Ive had this controller since the beginning of December and I have used it non-stop since then. I do not mind the dpad, and I think its better than a lot of mushy dpads you can get from other controllers. I ran the no deadzone option for a while but had to increase my deadzone to 1% because of stick drift, and haven't had to change it since (1% deadzone is still amazing). I have noticed that if you press the bumpers with a little too much side force (as in not perfectly opposite to how the button travels) that they can seem to have a TON more resistance. its not something that happens often but when it does its slightly annoying, but being aware of it has pretty much allowed me to avoid having it happen mid session. The only final complaint that I have is that occasionally the controller will take 2-3 minutes to connect to the 2.4ghz dongle. Once it is connected i have no issues. Oh and I have had the double clicking issue occasionally but only in one specific game. I wasnt sure if this controller would fit any of the standard controller kontrol freeks so I got some universal thumbstick risers and I've had no problems with them. Best controller Ive used and Id buy it again
My 2.4 ghz dock connects literally within 2-3 seconds everytime without fail. Might be an issue on your end. I have had zero stick drift whatsoever. Surprised anyone is getting drift since these are hall effect sticks.
@@fatih372 I realized that the correct term for my issue was JOYSTICK WIGGLE. 🤔 Hall effect joysticks prevent stick drift caused by the metal contacts wearing down, but not stick wiggle aka loose joystick. The battery wasn't the cause for me... 🤷♂️ More in depth: (When the metal parts inside the joystick module wear out and even if the joystick is physically at centered position, it drifts in the game) (My issue was that the joystick itself was wiggly and loose. The spring or something similar started to wear) (My guess would be because I play alot of Rocket League (alot of left stick spinning) that the joysticks "shaft" part gets scraped by the inner ring of the controller. It makes plastic dust which goes under the joystick and starts creaking and making noise (which it did) & eventually causing it to go loose & wiggle. Maybe a controller accent ring / anti-friction ring would fix this problem?) If someone read this, cheers! 😁✌️
As someone who now has an 8bitdo ultimate Bluetooth controller and has used it to it's "wear in" period. the uh, only thing that isn't loose are the triggers. The dpad top part moves like 5 millimeters each direction, the joystick springs are rather loose, the abxy buttons also have a little wiggle. the back buttons are in my opinion a little too easy to push, it took a bit before I could press them lightly enough. while in use however, these little visual oddities aren't noticeable in games. basically it isn't enough of a hindrance to impact gameplay.
@@TJzWayyyep, and my right joystick has developed some stick drift, which shouldn't really be happening, and the whole range of positions for every axis on both joysticks has shifted, so I had to adjust my dead zones to get full input.
I absolutely love my ultimate controller I bought it about 6 or 7 months ago and its been pretty much the only controller ive used ever since (except for 2d platformers and i use the SN30 pro for that)
Sega does what everyone else don’t, the Dreamcast controller and the Saturn 3d controller both used magnetic sensors in their sticks, with all the attention stick drift is getting and everyone using shitty potentiometer sticks from alps alpine, you’d think there’d be a huge market for the Hall effect sticks, hope gulikit looks at the situation and starts offering replacement sticks for other controllers
Normally I prefer channels whose videos stick to the script and are to the point, explain stuff thoroughly and don't engage in random quirky BS. Except that yours is hilarious and well done, and I love it.
I use mine with my steam deck - maybe a firmware update fixed that issue. And I confirmed just now you can pair with BT on PC - shows up as a switch pro controller.
The squareness and stiffness of sticks/triggers made me return the controller, which is sad because everything about it is excellent, but the pain kinda ruined my gaming experience. If you don't have these issues this controller is a no brainer pick.
Hall effect sensors *DO* develop drift, it's just how they are and there's no way around it. They have an infancy period of high voltage drift, that drops and plateaus to a low, that then shows age-related voltage drift that becomes a runaway issue; this quiescent drift rating is only around 1000 hours. There's also no real mitigation against this, as it does become a runaway issue, meaning drift gets worse as it ages past the quiescent period. Think about it, 1000 hours of use time isn't much, especially when people love to leave their wireless controllers on constantly; this is why you don't really see warranties for these kinds of products, manufacturers know the sensors will shit the bed fairly quickly, and if there is a warranty it'll be pretty short. Keep in mind this is also average among the set, so infancy period, rated voltage drift, the quiescent age-related voltage drift rating, as well as how badly age-related drift ramps up after the quiescent period are all pretty much a roll of the dice; and as the tested set grows, initial major outliers can also come closer to the realistic numbers, so data isn't even consistent if it's not continually updated. For sticks, this is _bad._ Consider how the sensors are used in a stick, you constantly have the magnet over the sensor, which means you have a floating center; also why GuliKit sticks are a bit notorious for having jumpy centers, though there's also other issues surrounding this; non-linearity and saturation issues, GK's design which 8BD uses as well as AYANEO, and the Steam Deck replacement sticks, uses a rotational sweep rather than a linear sweep on a sensor that prefers the linear sweep, this rotational sweep also causes variation in magnet strength through the sweep and is propably hitting saturation in the physical sensor, causing the jumpy center issues. This also means the sensor is _always_ in use, and even at the extreme negative of the axis, where a magnet would otherwise typically out of the range of the sensor in any other setup, the magnet is still within the sensor's range, meaning a 100% on-time. Now also consider that analog triggers for about a decade or so, outside of PlayStation and some third parties, also use hall sensors, but think about why this is a non-issue for them. First of all, triggers aren't meant to be super accurate anyways, the most accurate thing you'll do with them is feather throttle and brake in a racing game, but even that's fairly clunky. Second, you have to understand how these sensors are meant to operate, the optimal model is a magnet and sensor on offset planes, meaning two-axes parallel with only a height offset, with either A) a rotating magnet on the sensing axis, B) a lateral linear sweep of the magnet along the sensing axis, or C) a vertical linear movement of the magnet in relation to the sensing axis; now look at how triggers physically operate, they're quite often hinged, which means you have an off-axis rotation combined with the vertical linear sweep around that off-axis pivot, which results in a very non-uniform output graph. Between these two, triggers just are not accurate in the slightest, whereas sticks are meant to be an order of magnitude (if not a couple of orders) higher in resolution, and combine this with the additional downsides of the sticks, you can see why triggers are a non-issue while sticks are an issue. Also, triggers have their resting point outside of the sensor's range, this is why you don't see resting drift. There's better tech out there, just nobody is really chasing it. Sony had a design (the four pin modules in the SixAxis and DualShock 3 controllers) throughout the PS3 cycle (early Fat era to at least Super Slim, if not into the latter's era), and only up until recently did anyone figure out what it actually was, because nobody cared to look into it; as far as I know, I'm the only person to have actually probed one for various resistances and voltages and documented it, I now understand what Sony, or more accurately ALPS (they're so much larger than you might realize, with more variety in components than you might realize) as they produced the four pin modules, had done, and after I do some looking and running some numbers I'm passing the project off to a couple contacts I have in the industry to see if they'll produce something with it, as it's getting to the point of requiring fab work to produce a simplistic model, just as the original Sony/ALPS modules had their own fab line. Beyond this, as this solution still has downsides such as external fields being a problem, there's even better solution that's nobody is chasing, I've found _one_ patent that does what I had in mind from 2019, and another patent along more novel ideas from 1996 that could see a lot of improvement with modern novel approaches, but these are the only research into inductive sticks that I could find. There's also some other novel solutions beyond this, but they require more effort to pull off, such as an optoelectronic solution, or other tech that isn't a form of magnetosensor. The whole issue with this is that this is just a marketing scheme. ALPS has caused an issue by reducing quality of their potentiometers, someone has stepped up with a solution that's poorly understood by the wider community. What isn't understood by the wider community is that hall sensors have a dogshit usable accurate lifespan, yet nobody listens to this when it's spoken of. Potentiometers, as a technology, are not a problem, a properly specced potentiometer can easily last you a lifetime, the issue comes in when the manufacturers over-spec their products and underdeliver on longevity; all that's really needed is a carbon resistor compound that won't degrade under intended use, these products have force ratings after all, excessive force past their intended use is what's degrading them so quickly. So while hall sensors may be marginally better, and really only at the first 1000 hours before age-related voltage drift shows up and becomes a runaway issue, they're not a long-term solution, but the entire gaming community is taking the bait and praising these sensors while not understanding their downsides and how the products will absolutely shit themselves. Thus, it's all marketing buzz, so that these companies can profit, which is the only thing they care about; they don't care about you, they don't care about wasted controllers, they don't care about the wider industry, they only care that profits go up. Also take into consideration, once your hall sensors do shit themselves, they'll be even harder to replace; why, because they're SMD sensors that also require on alignment accuracy to function properly, if you skew the sensing axis in relation to the magnet, or vice versa, you will have less accurate input, again on a fairly high fidelity input device. Dreamcast also did the whole hall effect thing 25 years ago, it wasn't a big new idea then, and there's a reason why that stick design never caught on; which adds to why it's just marketing buzz now.
@@iLiekLemonade Congratulations on making yourself look illiterate as hell and of having the attention span of a toddler. Why even comment, unless you're just narcissistic or histrionic. There's good information within the comment, but clearly it's over your head. Consider going back to Fortnite and taking an L within the first 25, ripbozo.
thats interesting but normal controllers have not faired me well so i bit the bullet and got the GK kk2 pro, so far it hasnt been 1000 hours of usage so it hasnt shit itself, do you have any gamepad recommendations ?
I bought an 8bitdo pro switch controller based on your review and it randomly will turn left slower then normal. It is very frustrating and gets resolved after reconnecting. I hope the hal effect sticks catch on cause that feature is nice. I hate the triggers though. I am used to having trigger stops and these feel like they just sink in forever. I think I share your anger in that there is no clear best controller. They are all bad in their own ways and I can't find one I love for Apex. I wish I knew what your current most recommended controller was, like a regular top 3 or something.
I have the wired version for series x , been beating the hell out of it for months , still works like new and super responsive . Recommend over power A all day .
2:12 I just got this controller, and I am not able to use the 2.4G Reciever or Bluetooth at all on my laptop. (Laptop has 2.4G network bandwidth, btw, and it shouldn't give me any interference) The second I try to pair the controller with the USB inserted it makes my internet go out for no reason. i tried to pair it with Bluetooth mode and it destroyed the internet without it even recognizing the bluetooth device on my laptop. I am in need of serious help with this and I have already tried to contact 8BitDo, but all they have said so far was is to use the Pairing software, which only works half and half (either controller is paired or the 2.4G USB is paired) before it completely freezing my laptop as soon as I try and close out of the software, forcing me to reboot my laptop manually.
Uh, you can use Switch mode on PC through the 2.4ghz dongle. If I'm not mistaken, you have to hold Select + Y, and it will switch to Switch mode (no need to change to Bluetooth in the back). I even tested it out with emulators, not only do they instantly recognize the controller as a Switch Pro (so no need to set up the button inputs), but the gyro works as well. I don't remember which button combination is used to go back to XInput, but its all in the manual. Also, I think you have to update its firmware first to avoid some weird conection issues.
Great video! First time viewer, but this was an automatic subscribe just from the dark comedy alone! Plus it’s very informative. I was planning to get the Gulikit King Kong Pro 2 controller soon but is there a way to use this natively on Xbox without the Brook Wingman 2 adapter yet?
I own this controller as well as the Elite series 2. The series 2 is lost somewhere inside a bag since i tried the 8bitdo, because it's so much better. The sticks are so good. I finished F.I.S.T. with it, and loved it. The elite2 had buttons problems (somethimes not registering), had stick problems (sometimes character was going on the other side when releasing stick or trying to center it) It never happened with the 8bitdo. Only drawback: i lost 150€ on the elite2 because 8bitdo wasn't there ;)
ops i forgot. I will NEVER EVER buy something else than an hall effect controller. All those dumb physical stick can drift in someone'else hands, not in mine from now on.
Thanks for your vid about this controller. Is this controller the one to buy for pc gaming? I'm really leaning towards buying the 8BitDo for optimal pc gaming. But the 8BitDo sometimes looses the comparison with the Gulikit's KK2P, depening on where you look. When googling 'the best controller for pc', the Series X controller still comes out higher recommended and is said to have a better rumble, also in the triggers (which the other ones have not) and a sort of haptic feedback. This is a big plus. But the no friction sticks and the quick snap triggers of the Gulikit's, as well as the software (read: trigger settings) and the back-buttons of the 8BitDo and the no-deadzone hall sensors of both, are also real big plusses. So i'm breaking my brain over these controllers.
I love this controller for gaming in Linux with the 2.4ghz dock passthrough for the dongle. I bought it a few weeks ago and it's the best controller I've found for gaming in Linux with Steam/Proton. Very sturdy feeling and the rumble works perfect. I've been using it to play Octopath Traveler 2 and it's very responsive. I love how when I remove it from the dock, it's ready to go,
Had this controller for a few months now because as much as I wanted to buy an Xbox controller, I don't ever want to waste my money on something that will fail me after a while. NGL the ergonimics feel just fine in my case, and I love how accurate the thumbsticks are (just make sure you keep the controller charged, or else the thumbsticks will drift due to lack of power). For the price of an Xbox X|S Core/Switch Pro/Dualsense Controller, y'all are better off with a controller like this (I haven't tried the GuliKit KingKing 2/Zen Pro, but anything with those magnetic thumbsticks are instantly better than most controllers imo)
@@xlunxcyx8172 no, I play on my PC but I was originally looking for an Xbox controller prior to getting the 8BitDo Ultimate Bluetooth because of that Windows-Xinput native compatibility.
2-rear buttons = mandatory minimum 4-rear buttons = GOD tier worthy of the name "Ultimate" In other words: Put these fkn analog modules in an Elite V2 and take all of my money!!!!
It bothers me that 8bitdo does not advertise this very well if at all, its mentioned two times burried in their specsheet on the website for this controller, its not mentioned on the box itself, not in the manual or on the controller, you would be none the wiser unless you actually OPENED the controller and had a look. Really weird considering its more expensive and uses entirely different tech.
Question and potential project. would it be possible to buy one of these controllers and harvest the Hall effect sticks, then transplant them into a stock Xbox or Playstation controller? If so how well would it work?
I've been considering this myself and the answer is no. The readings of hall-effect magnets require a special translator in the controller to be read by whatever you're using it with. If you were super in depth, knew where to purchase the niche parts, owned a 3D printer, and have a full soldering iron kit--you could 𝘵𝘦𝘤𝘩𝘯𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘭𝘭𝘺 do it, but yeah not yet for average or even advanced consumers. There's one guy on YT trying to do it for PS4 controllers, that's about it for right now.
The timing of this upload was so perfect, I decided that I am going to buy a controller for my Switch just 1 hour ago and this is the controller that I want to buy. The video is hilarious as usual. vCuda videos are always worth watching for the funny moments.
Wdym by "no PC gyro support?" I have this controller and I'm using gyro to play FPS and Nintendon't games on my PC. You just have to plug in the dock with the cable to any USB on the PC or, unplug the USB dongle located beneath the dock and plug it directly on any USB on your PC
The comedy in here on this video made my fucking day oh, when you turned back around and called yourself a bitch I felt like I died and went to heaven God bless
The controller works via Bluetooth on a PC. Perhaps some kind of adjustment is required, but in the settings of the controller in Steam, the gyroscope also worked.
@@hansennoah1 English is not my native language, so it may not be described accurately: 1. Turn on the gamepad via Bluetooth. 2. He looks that he has identified himself as a Switch Pro controller 3. In BigPicture mode, click on the round gamepad icon for a specific game where you need a gyroscope. 4. I think you'll figure it out there, it should be using a gyroscope as a mouse.
I've been using this controller now for Rocket league a couple of days and I can say that it is a huge upgrade on the xbox series x controller. However one issue I've found is that the bumpers is feeling a little sticky upon deactivation. they sometimes stay pushed down for a couple tenth's of a second longer from when I release the button. With drift binded on one of the bumpers, I sometimes drift for too long. If only their feel was the same as their back-buttons... I don't think this controller holds up as a competitive RL controller sadly... Maybe I'm just having a monday-ex?
@@FireManiac58 a followup is that i no longer feel this, might be in the breakin period, or simply some residue plastic from the production that has now after a thousand clicks been shaved off. It works just fine now. Am gc2 player, before and after the controller switch.
ive been watching you for a few years now, i cant wait til you blow up and inevitably stop making edgy jokes and say you dont use the r slur anymore but seriously, fucking love your channel
the main problem i have with controllers isnt stick drift. it is that every controller has different joystick response curves that take a while to get used to and feel like shit compared to the stock xbox contoller. but no tech reviewers ever comment on the different feel of the joysticks in games.
mostly of the reviewers does not play competitively. they only shows some rpg games in their reviews. i understand what you mean. the hall effect feels different. specially if you are playing as sniper in warzone. the aim feels so heavy but when you add little bit more push to the joysticks the aim just fly away. 🤣 feels like it has acceleration of some sort.
Edit" firmware 1.04 beta seems to have corrected this issue. @10:40 Mine has problems like this even when wired. The stick loses it's outer range as you play. I play rocket league and it's critical to have the full 100% range so you can half flip, and also just the loss of proper sensitivity in either direction which in Rocket League above all games is pretty critical. The range resets itself if I dock it ( or turn it off, but that takes 8+ seconds so I have to play wireless and dock it frequently ) I actually can't even get through a 5 minute match without the problem reoccurring. You can actually feel it get worse by the minute as you play, first I lose the full 12 Oclock range, then eventually I lose also the full 6 Oclock range and by then my left and right feel to be move sensitive so I turn to much side/side in my aerial plays. I wish the software would just silently reset the proper calibrated range as you play but I think most people don't even notice this is happening because of the games they play it doesn't matter or isn't noticeable enough to them.
Can't tell you long term sorry, it's sort of my backup controller now so I don't use it much ( I fixed my elite 2 and began using that regular ) My 8bitdo bottom button did physically break early on but was easily fixed with glue gun and feels and plays the same as always, it's not the kind of "break" that has much of an effect... little hard to explain and it would not keep me from buying it, but full disclosure you know.@@wotererio
The roundness is deliberate. Not sure why but the majority of controllers have a deliberate zone in a certain amount of degrees that the X and Y can be maxed out.
So which version comes with the hall effect thumb sticks? Their site mentions NOTHIING about hall effect thumb sticks on either version. Thanks for another solid review vcuda!!
Thanks for watching! And the version with hall effect sticks is the Ultimate Bluetooth for switch. Theres another switch ultimate but its 2.4ghz, it doesn't have Bluetooth or hall effect sticks
Cant believe Google didnt automatically sub me to Cuda on my new account. But seriously, dude, your videos keep getting better in every regard and Id absolutely fight you if I reviewed controllers. But only cause I think youd be a fun ass whoopin'. Not cause you arent the absolute king of this shit. Keep it up, homie!
I bought this controller like 2 months ago to replace a pro controller for my nintendo switch i play smash bros ultimate daily and even compete and the controller is fine feels like new actually
I bought this controller. Not because I needed it but because I wanted to encourage the implementation of Gulikit's stick sensors in controllers.
Same here lol
How is it now?
@@swegga4530 Well, it's one of my seven controllers, so I don't use it every day. But it still works as expected! No stick drift! It gets an easy recommend from me.
so how its been until now?
@@stevensv4864As advertised: still completely drift-free! 😁
I forgot to clarify, I don't see something like the ASTRO C40 or the Gulikit controllers as being the first "Anti-stick drift pro controllers." Swappable thumbsticks are not a fix in my opinion, and the King Kong controllers, while great, don't have buttons on the bottom so I don't consider them pro controllers in the competitive sense. I've said this before but I neglected to bring it up this time my mistake!
I use the purple mid rise galaxy on my white 8bitdo so that was a little surreal initially lol however, it's been a while, I only ever use the Gamesir G7 now. (also with a purple mid rise galaxy mind)
..Gamesir G7
...............GAMESIR G7!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES.
Come on man you're way behind LOL ;P
OK jesting aside, 8bitdo do (lol) so much right, but once I used the Gamesir G7 there was no way back. If the Gamesir G7 had hall effect sticks, and trigger stops, that's an endgame controller right there, mostly.
brooo when will u do a steam controller review
Why can’t we simply get replacement Hall effect gimbals (sticks) for Xbox controllers?
You also forgot to say that the backbuttons are not extra buttons on software or driver level, so they cant do a different extra action in-game that you don't already have asigned to an existing button like A, B or RT. What I mean is that those buttons are not recognized as an L3 or R3 in driver level in any circumstance so they are just extra buttons that can't do anything in the case you want an extra action
@@lenh8612 Hall effect sticks require more precise voltages so the PCB itself needs some changes as well. Some people have successfully made Frankenstein modifications to swap out regular potentiometer sticks but it's not for the faint of heart, simply swapping the sticks out is not possible unless it's a Joy-Con stick or something like the sticks they made specifically for the Steam Deck, which comes with its own mini PCB to handle all the conversions (which is why the Steam Deck Gulikit stick is extra pricey).
This controller is awesome. The thumb sticks, however, were rubbing against the edges of their insert, causing some unnecessary wear, so I bought some inexpensive silicone protectors and reduced the max stick range to 98%. Works flawlessly. Heavy, heavy usage, but haven't experienced any drift yet.
I forgot to mention this! The sticks wear down and produce this grainy powder bs lol. It reminds me of extremerate thumbsticks
It’s always SOMETHING they overlook
if i end up using some kf precision rings (for stiffer tension) do you think it will accomplish the same effect of protecting the stem of the stick from wear?
@@LUCKIPUP I think they would. And if you wanna check out the OG’s of thumbstick rings check out AAA shocks
What are these protectors called?
I have had the 8BitDo Ultimate for 3 months and have zero issues whatsoever with stick drift or connectivity. I use the charge dock as 2.4ghz wireless connection on my PC and it INSTANTLY connects in literally 2 seconds every single time without fail, and makes a satisfying rumble when it connects... D-Pad is great (I've heard that is 8BitDo's specialty apparently). I got some Skull n Co universal thumbstick grips which work fine, and as in this video was able to barely pop my Xbox KontrolFreek thumbsticks onto this controller. If it came with interchangeable stick lengths and thumb covers it would be near perfect. Highly Recommend.
Skull & Co.'s XBOX Series X and XBOX One Joystick Caps are a pretty good fit and definitely good quality rubber
hello i’m deaf 🧏🏻♂️ what’s the update on your ultimate controller and skull thumbsticks? i plan to upgrade 1 TB series s on sept.
Whoever brings out the first pro controller with 4 paddle and hall sensor triggers and sticks is going to dominate the market, most likely. I know I'd buy two if they made such a controller.
Yea, I love the elite 2, because of the paddles. But the quality issues are annoying and a scam.
I'm waiting for Elite 3 to see if they improve. My other hope is Steam, with a new Steam Controller.
not if they are sold for $180+
It doesn't use paddles, but flydigi Vader 3 is basically that
I never understood the idea of 4 paddles on the back, its redundant, I guess the only use would be for macro. There only two buttons you press at all time anyway when using both joysticks and fighting games you never use the right side joystick anyway.
Just drives up the cost even more
@@SMGJohn You bind all 4 face buttons to the 4 back buttons.
Your thumb would never have to leave the thumstick when playing shooters, for an example..
Came for the controller review, stayed for the personality and the lack of a filter. Kinda refreshing
Same way he got me
I really miss the days of the PS2, same controllers for 22 years, 0 issues. My SNES controllers after 29 years old and work just fine.
03:48 needed to rewatch this over and over, damn hilarous!
I bought this controller based off of your review back in February 8 months ago. Absolutely love it!!
Pros and cons: cons first, no trigger stops, only has 2 back paddles wish it had 4, wish I had extra buttons to map to keybinds, wish it had built in audio jack. Pros: still running 1% deadzones in November, aim still feels perfect and precise. Charging cradle is really sleek and functional. I remapped ads and fire to front bumpers, best decision ever for FPS games. I can highly recommend this controller for fast paced FPS pc gaming. I have an Xbox KontrolFreak on my right stick for precise aiming and it fits very snugly, never ever has it came off, it’s a little difficult to remove.
Editing been a step up lately, cool to see more of these types of sticks as well.
Thanks man! I've been using RunwayML Ai to step up post production and this was kinda like a rough draft. Glad you like it!
3:58 First video of yours I have seen.... You are getting another subscriber
I’m a simple man. I see Cuda upload, I click the like button 💙
Me 2
I’m a simple man when I see your mom my di Ck goes up
Had me loling as usual! Excited for the Gamesir review!
I've been thinking of getting this controller. Always love your reviews and comedy. Keep it up
Thanks, vCuda. Dat editing doe.. sheeeshhh
Looking forward to the Dualsense.
glad to see you are back.
I may have finally gotten my act together as well! Lol
You can use it in bluetooth mode on PC with gyro. After you sync it, turn the controller off then on again and it works. I did a video on it
Dude, this is my first time watching your channel. you are funny as hell.
Ive had this controller since the beginning of December and I have used it non-stop since then. I do not mind the dpad, and I think its better than a lot of mushy dpads you can get from other controllers. I ran the no deadzone option for a while but had to increase my deadzone to 1% because of stick drift, and haven't had to change it since (1% deadzone is still amazing). I have noticed that if you press the bumpers with a little too much side force (as in not perfectly opposite to how the button travels) that they can seem to have a TON more resistance. its not something that happens often but when it does its slightly annoying, but being aware of it has pretty much allowed me to avoid having it happen mid session. The only final complaint that I have is that occasionally the controller will take 2-3 minutes to connect to the 2.4ghz dongle. Once it is connected i have no issues. Oh and I have had the double clicking issue occasionally but only in one specific game. I wasnt sure if this controller would fit any of the standard controller kontrol freeks so I got some universal thumbstick risers and I've had no problems with them. Best controller Ive used and Id buy it again
I already have stickdrif / stick wiggle. RIP.
@@Empty12345 same
My 2.4 ghz dock connects literally within 2-3 seconds everytime without fail. Might be an issue on your end. I have had zero stick drift whatsoever. Surprised anyone is getting drift since these are hall effect sticks.
@@Empty12345 some people it happens when you’re low on battery. how about yours, any update?
@@fatih372 I realized that the correct term for my issue was JOYSTICK WIGGLE. 🤔
Hall effect joysticks prevent stick drift caused by the metal contacts wearing down, but not stick wiggle aka loose joystick.
The battery wasn't the cause for me... 🤷♂️
More in depth:
(When the metal parts inside the joystick module wear out and even if the joystick is physically at centered position, it drifts in the game)
(My issue was that the joystick itself was wiggly and loose. The spring or something similar started to wear)
(My guess would be because I play alot of Rocket League (alot of left stick spinning) that the joysticks "shaft" part gets scraped by the inner ring of the controller.
It makes plastic dust which goes under the joystick and starts creaking and making noise (which it did) & eventually causing it to go loose & wiggle. Maybe a controller accent ring / anti-friction ring would fix this problem?)
If someone read this, cheers! 😁✌️
As someone who now has an 8bitdo ultimate Bluetooth controller and has used it to it's "wear in" period. the uh, only thing that isn't loose are the triggers. The dpad top part moves like 5 millimeters each direction, the joystick springs are rather loose, the abxy buttons also have a little wiggle. the back buttons are in my opinion a little too easy to push, it took a bit before I could press them lightly enough. while in use however, these little visual oddities aren't noticeable in games. basically it isn't enough of a hindrance to impact gameplay.
I probably have a couple hundred hours on the controller, since I play games a lot.
Still?
@@TJzWayyyep, and my right joystick has developed some stick drift, which shouldn't really be happening, and the whole range of positions for every axis on both joysticks has shifted, so I had to adjust my dead zones to get full input.
I absolutely love my ultimate controller
I bought it about 6 or 7 months ago and its been pretty much the only controller ive used ever since (except for 2d platformers and i use the SN30 pro for that)
Unrelated, but the jokes are tighter/more solid than usual. Still edgy for my taste, but the growth is cool to see!
Glad you enjoyed them! I went a little crazy in this video, I don't plan to be this wild in my Dualsense Edge review lol
Sega does what everyone else don’t, the Dreamcast controller and the Saturn 3d controller both used magnetic sensors in their sticks, with all the attention stick drift is getting and everyone using shitty potentiometer sticks from alps alpine, you’d think there’d be a huge market for the Hall effect sticks, hope gulikit looks at the situation and starts offering replacement sticks for other controllers
another hilarious and informative video at the same time. thank you for being REAL!
we have the same thumbstick extender. BIG W
Nice to see the controller scanning thingy you mentioned in action. Pristine video as always 👍
Normally I prefer channels whose videos stick to the script and are to the point, explain stuff thoroughly and don't engage in random quirky BS. Except that yours is hilarious and well done, and I love it.
dude your editing is some devine tier mix of shit-posting and cinimatogrophy. fucking nailed it.
never change.
1:59 bro you caught me there HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
5:15 when you be talking shit to yourself lmaoo I felt that
3:57 this made me laugh at 5 am in the morning
Man,keep these vids coming lol great review.
I use mine with my steam deck - maybe a firmware update fixed that issue. And I confirmed just now you can pair with BT on PC - shows up as a switch pro controller.
steam skateboard
does gyro work
King kong dropped the ball hard on the lack of back buttons. I would give them my money in a heartbeat if they had them.
The squareness and stiffness of sticks/triggers made me return the controller, which is sad because everything about it is excellent, but the pain kinda ruined my gaming experience. If you don't have these issues this controller is a no brainer pick.
Hall effect sensors *DO* develop drift, it's just how they are and there's no way around it. They have an infancy period of high voltage drift, that drops and plateaus to a low, that then shows age-related voltage drift that becomes a runaway issue; this quiescent drift rating is only around 1000 hours. There's also no real mitigation against this, as it does become a runaway issue, meaning drift gets worse as it ages past the quiescent period. Think about it, 1000 hours of use time isn't much, especially when people love to leave their wireless controllers on constantly; this is why you don't really see warranties for these kinds of products, manufacturers know the sensors will shit the bed fairly quickly, and if there is a warranty it'll be pretty short. Keep in mind this is also average among the set, so infancy period, rated voltage drift, the quiescent age-related voltage drift rating, as well as how badly age-related drift ramps up after the quiescent period are all pretty much a roll of the dice; and as the tested set grows, initial major outliers can also come closer to the realistic numbers, so data isn't even consistent if it's not continually updated.
For sticks, this is _bad._ Consider how the sensors are used in a stick, you constantly have the magnet over the sensor, which means you have a floating center; also why GuliKit sticks are a bit notorious for having jumpy centers, though there's also other issues surrounding this; non-linearity and saturation issues, GK's design which 8BD uses as well as AYANEO, and the Steam Deck replacement sticks, uses a rotational sweep rather than a linear sweep on a sensor that prefers the linear sweep, this rotational sweep also causes variation in magnet strength through the sweep and is propably hitting saturation in the physical sensor, causing the jumpy center issues. This also means the sensor is _always_ in use, and even at the extreme negative of the axis, where a magnet would otherwise typically out of the range of the sensor in any other setup, the magnet is still within the sensor's range, meaning a 100% on-time.
Now also consider that analog triggers for about a decade or so, outside of PlayStation and some third parties, also use hall sensors, but think about why this is a non-issue for them. First of all, triggers aren't meant to be super accurate anyways, the most accurate thing you'll do with them is feather throttle and brake in a racing game, but even that's fairly clunky. Second, you have to understand how these sensors are meant to operate, the optimal model is a magnet and sensor on offset planes, meaning two-axes parallel with only a height offset, with either A) a rotating magnet on the sensing axis, B) a lateral linear sweep of the magnet along the sensing axis, or C) a vertical linear movement of the magnet in relation to the sensing axis; now look at how triggers physically operate, they're quite often hinged, which means you have an off-axis rotation combined with the vertical linear sweep around that off-axis pivot, which results in a very non-uniform output graph. Between these two, triggers just are not accurate in the slightest, whereas sticks are meant to be an order of magnitude (if not a couple of orders) higher in resolution, and combine this with the additional downsides of the sticks, you can see why triggers are a non-issue while sticks are an issue. Also, triggers have their resting point outside of the sensor's range, this is why you don't see resting drift.
There's better tech out there, just nobody is really chasing it. Sony had a design (the four pin modules in the SixAxis and DualShock 3 controllers) throughout the PS3 cycle (early Fat era to at least Super Slim, if not into the latter's era), and only up until recently did anyone figure out what it actually was, because nobody cared to look into it; as far as I know, I'm the only person to have actually probed one for various resistances and voltages and documented it, I now understand what Sony, or more accurately ALPS (they're so much larger than you might realize, with more variety in components than you might realize) as they produced the four pin modules, had done, and after I do some looking and running some numbers I'm passing the project off to a couple contacts I have in the industry to see if they'll produce something with it, as it's getting to the point of requiring fab work to produce a simplistic model, just as the original Sony/ALPS modules had their own fab line. Beyond this, as this solution still has downsides such as external fields being a problem, there's even better solution that's nobody is chasing, I've found _one_ patent that does what I had in mind from 2019, and another patent along more novel ideas from 1996 that could see a lot of improvement with modern novel approaches, but these are the only research into inductive sticks that I could find. There's also some other novel solutions beyond this, but they require more effort to pull off, such as an optoelectronic solution, or other tech that isn't a form of magnetosensor.
The whole issue with this is that this is just a marketing scheme. ALPS has caused an issue by reducing quality of their potentiometers, someone has stepped up with a solution that's poorly understood by the wider community. What isn't understood by the wider community is that hall sensors have a dogshit usable accurate lifespan, yet nobody listens to this when it's spoken of. Potentiometers, as a technology, are not a problem, a properly specced potentiometer can easily last you a lifetime, the issue comes in when the manufacturers over-spec their products and underdeliver on longevity; all that's really needed is a carbon resistor compound that won't degrade under intended use, these products have force ratings after all, excessive force past their intended use is what's degrading them so quickly. So while hall sensors may be marginally better, and really only at the first 1000 hours before age-related voltage drift shows up and becomes a runaway issue, they're not a long-term solution, but the entire gaming community is taking the bait and praising these sensors while not understanding their downsides and how the products will absolutely shit themselves. Thus, it's all marketing buzz, so that these companies can profit, which is the only thing they care about; they don't care about you, they don't care about wasted controllers, they don't care about the wider industry, they only care that profits go up. Also take into consideration, once your hall sensors do shit themselves, they'll be even harder to replace; why, because they're SMD sensors that also require on alignment accuracy to function properly, if you skew the sensing axis in relation to the magnet, or vice versa, you will have less accurate input, again on a fairly high fidelity input device. Dreamcast also did the whole hall effect thing 25 years ago, it wasn't a big new idea then, and there's a reason why that stick design never caught on; which adds to why it's just marketing buzz now.
i aint reading all that
@@iLiekLemonade Congratulations on making yourself look illiterate as hell and of having the attention span of a toddler. Why even comment, unless you're just narcissistic or histrionic. There's good information within the comment, but clearly it's over your head. Consider going back to Fortnite and taking an L within the first 25, ripbozo.
Very thorough insight, thanks for taking the time to explain
thats interesting but normal controllers have not faired me well so i bit the bullet and got the GK kk2 pro, so far it hasnt been 1000 hours of usage so it hasnt shit itself, do you have any gamepad recommendations ?
Fox body mustang design had me fuckin crying 😂. You're amazing dude
I bought an 8bitdo pro switch controller based on your review and it randomly will turn left slower then normal. It is very frustrating and gets resolved after reconnecting. I hope the hal effect sticks catch on cause that feature is nice. I hate the triggers though. I am used to having trigger stops and these feel like they just sink in forever. I think I share your anger in that there is no clear best controller. They are all bad in their own ways and I can't find one I love for Apex. I wish I knew what your current most recommended controller was, like a regular top 3 or something.
I have the wired version for series x , been beating the hell out of it for months , still works like new and super responsive . Recommend over power A all day .
Does the wired version have the same sticks as the one in this review?
2:12 I just got this controller, and I am not able to use the 2.4G Reciever or Bluetooth at all on my laptop. (Laptop has 2.4G network bandwidth, btw, and it shouldn't give me any interference) The second I try to pair the controller with the USB inserted it makes my internet go out for no reason. i tried to pair it with Bluetooth mode and it destroyed the internet without it even recognizing the bluetooth device on my laptop.
I am in need of serious help with this and I have already tried to contact 8BitDo, but all they have said so far was is to use the Pairing software, which only works half and half (either controller is paired or the 2.4G USB is paired) before it completely freezing my laptop as soon as I try and close out of the software, forcing me to reboot my laptop manually.
Uh, you can use Switch mode on PC through the 2.4ghz dongle. If I'm not mistaken, you have to hold Select + Y, and it will switch to Switch mode (no need to change to Bluetooth in the back). I even tested it out with emulators, not only do they instantly recognize the controller as a Switch Pro (so no need to set up the button inputs), but the gyro works as well. I don't remember which button combination is used to go back to XInput, but its all in the manual. Also, I think you have to update its firmware first to avoid some weird conection issues.
No anti-friction rings for the thumb sticks is unfortunate though. Be nice if it also shared the hall effect triggers with the Pro 2 as well.
Cut a thin strip of kapton tape and make a couple of wraps around the stick shaft.
Been doing it for years and it works beautifully.
Your video is the first to start with magnetic hall effect, great job.
Great video! First time viewer, but this was an automatic subscribe just from the dark comedy alone! Plus it’s very informative. I was planning to get the Gulikit King Kong Pro 2 controller soon but is there a way to use this natively on Xbox without the Brook Wingman 2 adapter yet?
1:58 best part of the video 😂😂😂
I dont know why but i was using it great for the first 2-3 months but then all of a sudden it get stick drift somehow and i have no idea how to fix it
I own this controller as well as the Elite series 2. The series 2 is lost somewhere inside a bag since i tried the 8bitdo, because it's so much better.
The sticks are so good. I finished F.I.S.T. with it, and loved it. The elite2 had buttons problems (somethimes not registering), had stick problems (sometimes character was going on the other side when releasing stick or trying to center it)
It never happened with the 8bitdo.
Only drawback: i lost 150€ on the elite2 because 8bitdo wasn't there ;)
ops i forgot. I will NEVER EVER buy something else than an hall effect controller. All those dumb physical stick can drift in someone'else hands, not in mine from now on.
Thanks for your vid about this controller. Is this controller the one to buy for pc gaming?
I'm really leaning towards buying the 8BitDo for optimal pc gaming. But the 8BitDo sometimes looses the comparison with the Gulikit's KK2P, depening on where you look.
When googling 'the best controller for pc', the Series X controller still comes out higher recommended and is said to have a better rumble, also in the triggers (which the other ones have not) and a sort of haptic feedback. This is a big plus.
But the no friction sticks and the quick snap triggers of the Gulikit's, as well as the software (read: trigger settings) and the back-buttons of the 8BitDo and the no-deadzone hall sensors of both, are also real big plusses. So i'm breaking my brain over these controllers.
I love this controller for gaming in Linux with the 2.4ghz dock passthrough for the dongle. I bought it a few weeks ago and it's the best controller I've found for gaming in Linux with Steam/Proton. Very sturdy feeling and the rumble works perfect. I've been using it to play Octopath Traveler 2 and it's very responsive. I love how when I remove it from the dock, it's ready to go,
Had this controller for a few months now because as much as I wanted to buy an Xbox controller, I don't ever want to waste my money on something that will fail me after a while. NGL the ergonimics feel just fine in my case, and I love how accurate the thumbsticks are (just make sure you keep the controller charged, or else the thumbsticks will drift due to lack of power). For the price of an Xbox X|S Core/Switch Pro/Dualsense Controller, y'all are better off with a controller like this (I haven't tried the GuliKit KingKing 2/Zen Pro, but anything with those magnetic thumbsticks are instantly better than most controllers imo)
So you can use it on series XlS ? I saw the xbox one is 50$ so I'm kinda confused which one I need to buy bc this is mostly pc
@@xlunxcyx8172 no, I play on my PC but I was originally looking for an Xbox controller prior to getting the 8BitDo Ultimate Bluetooth because of that Windows-Xinput native compatibility.
@@jj_zeroshikiwhy not just play wired?
The holy grail of all controllers
2-rear buttons = mandatory minimum
4-rear buttons = GOD tier worthy of the name "Ultimate"
In other words: Put these fkn analog modules in an Elite V2 and take all of my money!!!!
Class! Never change, my man!
Cheers good video dude.
Love the content and your presentations. Keep it up, looking forward to more as you can get them.
It bothers me that 8bitdo does not advertise this very well if at all, its mentioned two times burried in their specsheet on the website for this controller, its not mentioned on the box itself, not in the manual or on the controller, you would be none the wiser unless you actually OPENED the controller and had a look.
Really weird considering its more expensive and uses entirely different tech.
i wish they just produced the sticks that way amateur electricians like me could permanently fix this rather than to put a tuner on the under side
Question and potential project. would it be possible to buy one of these controllers and harvest the Hall effect sticks, then transplant them into a stock Xbox or Playstation controller? If so how well would it work?
I've been considering this myself and the answer is no. The readings of hall-effect magnets require a special translator in the controller to be read by whatever you're using it with. If you were super in depth, knew where to purchase the niche parts, owned a 3D printer, and have a full soldering iron kit--you could 𝘵𝘦𝘤𝘩𝘯𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘭𝘭𝘺 do it, but yeah not yet for average or even advanced consumers. There's one guy on YT trying to do it for PS4 controllers, that's about it for right now.
The timing of this upload was so perfect, I decided that I am going to buy a controller for my Switch just 1 hour ago and this is the controller that I want to buy.
The video is hilarious as usual.
vCuda videos are always worth watching for the funny moments.
"you cannot have Xbox sized gaystation thumbsticks.."
.."that's gay"
😂😂
It's the (almost) same review for the wired version dude? Nice video btw
Ayooo! Don't lemme think about mushyness of my PC's powerbutton! 😂
you got a free controller to review. That's very different from reviewing something you spent your own money on.
Wdym by "no PC gyro support?" I have this controller and I'm using gyro to play FPS and Nintendon't games on my PC. You just have to plug in the dock with the cable to any USB on the PC or, unplug the USB dongle located beneath the dock and plug it directly on any USB on your PC
I don't even care about the controllers tbh, these videos are fire 100/100
I wonder what the odds are that there will be hall effect joystick modules for the dualsense edge.
in order to pair in bluetooth mode in pc was to press the sync button while the controller is on and then shake it to get it into pairing mode.
The comedy in here on this video made my fucking day oh, when you turned back around and called yourself a bitch I felt like I died and went to heaven God bless
The comedy alone is the reason why not only am I buying but I'm using your link
The controller works via Bluetooth on a PC. Perhaps some kind of adjustment is required, but in the settings of the controller in Steam, the gyroscope also worked.
did you do any adjustment ?
@@hansennoah1
English is not my native language, so it may not be described accurately:
1. Turn on the gamepad via Bluetooth.
2. He looks that he has identified himself as a Switch Pro controller
3. In BigPicture mode, click on the round gamepad icon for a specific game where you need a gyroscope.
4. I think you'll figure it out there, it should be using a gyroscope as a mouse.
@@hansennoah1 You can also search for "Horoscope with SwitchPro controller on Steam", there are videos that show about how I did.
I've been using this controller now for Rocket league a couple of days and I can say that it is a huge upgrade on the xbox series x controller. However one issue I've found is that the bumpers is feeling a little sticky upon deactivation. they sometimes stay pushed down for a couple tenth's of a second longer from when I release the button. With drift binded on one of the bumpers, I sometimes drift for too long. If only their feel was the same as their back-buttons... I don't think this controller holds up as a competitive RL controller sadly... Maybe I'm just having a monday-ex?
That’s a huge downside :(
@@FireManiac58 a followup is that i no longer feel this, might be in the breakin period, or simply some residue plastic from the production that has now after a thousand clicks been shaved off. It works just fine now. Am gc2 player, before and after the controller switch.
Solid video as always, for real though you should do other reviews.
ive been watching you for a few years now, i cant wait til you blow up and inevitably stop making edgy jokes and say you dont use the r slur anymore
but seriously, fucking love your channel
Love your videos bro keep up the great work
You’re awesome, subbed!!
I've been using bluetooth mode to play with CEMU and it works, motion controls and all and I believe the switch emulator does the same
this is why I bought the king Kong pro I knew I would have issues
the main problem i have with controllers isnt stick drift. it is that every controller has different joystick response curves that take a while to get used to and feel like shit compared to the stock xbox contoller. but no tech reviewers ever comment on the different feel of the joysticks in games.
mostly of the reviewers does not play competitively. they only shows some rpg games in their reviews.
i understand what you mean. the hall effect feels different. specially if you are playing as sniper in warzone. the aim feels so heavy but when you add little bit more push to the joysticks the aim just fly away. 🤣
feels like it has acceleration of some sort.
Edit" firmware 1.04 beta seems to have corrected this issue.
@10:40 Mine has problems like this even when wired. The stick loses it's outer range as you play. I play rocket league and it's critical to have the full 100% range so you can half flip, and also just the loss of proper sensitivity in either direction which in Rocket League above all games is pretty critical. The range resets itself if I dock it ( or turn it off, but that takes 8+ seconds so I have to play wireless and dock it frequently ) I actually can't even get through a 5 minute match without the problem reoccurring. You can actually feel it get worse by the minute as you play, first I lose the full 12 Oclock range, then eventually I lose also the full 6 Oclock range and by then my left and right feel to be move sensitive so I turn to much side/side in my aerial plays. I wish the software would just silently reset the proper calibrated range as you play but I think most people don't even notice this is happening because of the games they play it doesn't matter or isn't noticeable enough to them.
How's rocket league been with this controller? I'm thinking of using this controller but I'm not sure how it will do in the longer term
Can't tell you long term sorry, it's sort of my backup controller now so I don't use it much ( I fixed my elite 2 and began using that regular ) My 8bitdo bottom button did physically break early on but was easily fixed with glue gun and feels and plays the same as always, it's not the kind of "break" that has much of an effect... little hard to explain and it would not keep me from buying it, but full disclosure you know.@@wotererio
There's a new hull effect controller out now, I think it's the G7 SE or something like that iirc@@wotererio
That Mark section got me 😂
Microsoft and Sony need to start using this already.
totally off-topic, but I do love the jacket! Could u share what brand it is?=
Does the "feel" of this controller the same with an xbox? This looks like xbox and a ps controller had a baby.
The roundness is deliberate. Not sure why but the majority of controllers have a deliberate zone in a certain amount of degrees that the X and Y can be maxed out.
Thank you♥️♥️
YOOoO glad the gamesir g7 is getting that review
So which version comes with the hall effect thumb sticks? Their site mentions NOTHIING about hall effect thumb sticks on either version. Thanks for another solid review vcuda!!
Thanks for watching! And the version with hall effect sticks is the Ultimate Bluetooth for switch. Theres another switch ultimate but its 2.4ghz, it doesn't have Bluetooth or hall effect sticks
@@vCuda Thanks bro!
Great video dude!
Finally you release a videooooooooooooo
Thanks stil waiting for 1ms controller, 4 good back buttons, accuracy stick and trigger stop...
Cant believe Google didnt automatically sub me to Cuda on my new account.
But seriously, dude, your videos keep getting better in every regard and Id absolutely fight you if I reviewed controllers. But only cause I think youd be a fun ass whoopin'. Not cause you arent the absolute king of this shit. Keep it up, homie!
Your videos crack me up! This controller looks cool, does it work with Xbox at all?
😂
Holy crap this guy channel is funny as heck
PlayStation >…😂, hella of a youtuber. Subbed for sure.
The Intel and NVidia legacy has been revealed @13:38.
I bought this controller like 2 months ago to replace a pro controller for my nintendo switch i play smash bros ultimate daily and even compete and the controller is fine feels like new actually
dont be too hard on yourself any content is better than no content
This dude is funny. Just found him
Did this man buy a copy of mein komf for a joke? True legend.
Looks cool 🤩
Donny my boy we love you happy Valentine’s Day 😘💝💕