The FIRST Anti-Stick Drift Pro Controller | 8Bitdo Ultimate Honest Review (PC)

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    Thank you guys so much for watching what was by far my favorite project to put together. The product is stellar and it was a ton of fun shooting & editing this video. I hope you guys enjoy, and if you're looking to grab an 8Bitdo Ultimate yourself, there are links above. I hope to see you guys in the next one!
    Timestamps
    0:00 - 1:19 Intro
    1:19 - 3:12 Connectivity
    3:12 - 4:14 Wireless Dock
    4:14 - 5:20 Rear Buttons
    5:20 - 6:06 Hall-Effect Thumbsticks
    6:06 - 6:41 Disable Deadzone
    6:41 - 7:15 Circularity Test
    7:15 - 7:53 Thumbstick Feel
    8:02 - 9:48 Software Customization
    9:48 - 12:16 Reliability, Issues, and Complaints
    12:16 - 16:21 Conclusion
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  • @menno1040
    @menno1040 ปีที่แล้ว +165

    I bought this controller. Not because I needed it but because I wanted to encourage the implementation of Gulikit's stick sensors in controllers.

    • @tomeriknicolaysen7606
      @tomeriknicolaysen7606 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same here lol

    • @swegga4530
      @swegga4530 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How is it now?

    • @menno1040
      @menno1040 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@swegga4530 Well, it's one of my seven controllers, so I don't use it every day. But it still works as expected! No stick drift! It gets an easy recommend from me.

    • @stevensv4864
      @stevensv4864 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      so how its been until now?

    • @menno1040
      @menno1040 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@stevensv4864As advertised: still completely drift-free! 😁

  • @melgapin
    @melgapin ปีที่แล้ว +66

    This controller is awesome. The thumb sticks, however, were rubbing against the edges of their insert, causing some unnecessary wear, so I bought some inexpensive silicone protectors and reduced the max stick range to 98%. Works flawlessly. Heavy, heavy usage, but haven't experienced any drift yet.

    • @vCuda
      @vCuda  ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I forgot to mention this! The sticks wear down and produce this grainy powder bs lol. It reminds me of extremerate thumbsticks

    • @TJzWayyy
      @TJzWayyy ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It’s always SOMETHING they overlook

    • @LUCKIPUP
      @LUCKIPUP ปีที่แล้ว +2

      if i end up using some kf precision rings (for stiffer tension) do you think it will accomplish the same effect of protecting the stem of the stick from wear?

    • @TheOneCloudless
      @TheOneCloudless ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LUCKIPUP I think they would. And if you wanna check out the OG’s of thumbstick rings check out AAA shocks

    • @therealkoga2519
      @therealkoga2519 ปีที่แล้ว

      What are these protectors called?

  • @shaolinswords
    @shaolinswords ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I have had the 8BitDo Ultimate for 3 months and have zero issues whatsoever with stick drift or connectivity. I use the charge dock as 2.4ghz wireless connection on my PC and it INSTANTLY connects in literally 2 seconds every single time without fail, and makes a satisfying rumble when it connects... D-Pad is great (I've heard that is 8BitDo's specialty apparently). I got some Skull n Co universal thumbstick grips which work fine, and as in this video was able to barely pop my Xbox KontrolFreek thumbsticks onto this controller. If it came with interchangeable stick lengths and thumb covers it would be near perfect. Highly Recommend.

    • @SoloQSights
      @SoloQSights ปีที่แล้ว

      Skull & Co.'s XBOX Series X and XBOX One Joystick Caps are a pretty good fit and definitely good quality rubber

    • @lonewolf_831
      @lonewolf_831 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      hello i’m deaf 🧏🏻‍♂️ what’s the update on your ultimate controller and skull thumbsticks? i plan to upgrade 1 TB series s on sept.

  • @vCuda
    @vCuda  ปีที่แล้ว +77

    I forgot to clarify, I don't see something like the ASTRO C40 or the Gulikit controllers as being the first "Anti-stick drift pro controllers." Swappable thumbsticks are not a fix in my opinion, and the King Kong controllers, while great, don't have buttons on the bottom so I don't consider them pro controllers in the competitive sense. I've said this before but I neglected to bring it up this time my mistake!

    • @fwabble
      @fwabble ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I use the purple mid rise galaxy on my white 8bitdo so that was a little surreal initially lol however, it's been a while, I only ever use the Gamesir G7 now. (also with a purple mid rise galaxy mind)
      ..Gamesir G7
      ...............GAMESIR G7!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      Yes, YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES.
      Come on man you're way behind LOL ;P
      OK jesting aside, 8bitdo do (lol) so much right, but once I used the Gamesir G7 there was no way back. If the Gamesir G7 had hall effect sticks, and trigger stops, that's an endgame controller right there, mostly.

    • @tea_with-mint
      @tea_with-mint ปีที่แล้ว

      brooo when will u do a steam controller review

    • @lenh8612
      @lenh8612 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why can’t we simply get replacement Hall effect gimbals (sticks) for Xbox controllers?

    • @Dabid13
      @Dabid13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You also forgot to say that the backbuttons are not extra buttons on software or driver level, so they cant do a different extra action in-game that you don't already have asigned to an existing button like A, B or RT. What I mean is that those buttons are not recognized as an L3 or R3 in driver level in any circumstance so they are just extra buttons that can't do anything in the case you want an extra action

    • @osamu_90
      @osamu_90 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lenh8612 Hall effect sticks require more precise voltages so the PCB itself needs some changes as well. Some people have successfully made Frankenstein modifications to swap out regular potentiometer sticks but it's not for the faint of heart, simply swapping the sticks out is not possible unless it's a Joy-Con stick or something like the sticks they made specifically for the Steam Deck, which comes with its own mini PCB to handle all the conversions (which is why the Steam Deck Gulikit stick is extra pricey).

  • @EmergencyChannel
    @EmergencyChannel ปีที่แล้ว +75

    Whoever brings out the first pro controller with 4 paddle and hall sensor triggers and sticks is going to dominate the market, most likely. I know I'd buy two if they made such a controller.

    • @shi-woonyi2605
      @shi-woonyi2605 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yea, I love the elite 2, because of the paddles. But the quality issues are annoying and a scam.
      I'm waiting for Elite 3 to see if they improve. My other hope is Steam, with a new Steam Controller.

    • @hua..
      @hua.. ปีที่แล้ว +3

      not if they are sold for $180+

    • @realislit8064
      @realislit8064 ปีที่แล้ว

      It doesn't use paddles, but flydigi Vader 3 is basically that

    • @SMGJohn
      @SMGJohn 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I never understood the idea of 4 paddles on the back, its redundant, I guess the only use would be for macro. There only two buttons you press at all time anyway when using both joysticks and fighting games you never use the right side joystick anyway.
      Just drives up the cost even more

    • @Empty12345
      @Empty12345 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@SMGJohn You bind all 4 face buttons to the 4 back buttons.
      Your thumb would never have to leave the thumstick when playing shooters, for an example..

  • @justJordanMW
    @justJordanMW ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've been thinking of getting this controller. Always love your reviews and comedy. Keep it up

  • @flavoredmold6432
    @flavoredmold6432 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I bought this controller based off of your review back in February 8 months ago. Absolutely love it!!
    Pros and cons: cons first, no trigger stops, only has 2 back paddles wish it had 4, wish I had extra buttons to map to keybinds, wish it had built in audio jack. Pros: still running 1% deadzones in November, aim still feels perfect and precise. Charging cradle is really sleek and functional. I remapped ads and fire to front bumpers, best decision ever for FPS games. I can highly recommend this controller for fast paced FPS pc gaming. I have an Xbox KontrolFreak on my right stick for precise aiming and it fits very snugly, never ever has it came off, it’s a little difficult to remove.

  • @sarlaccpit_a
    @sarlaccpit_a 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    wow this video is brilliant, a comprehensive review for the 8bitdo ultimate while still being highly entertaining. kudos

  • @andyxprophet
    @andyxprophet ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Had me loling as usual! Excited for the Gamesir review!

  • @ODDiSEE_
    @ODDiSEE_ ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I really miss the days of the PS2, same controllers for 22 years, 0 issues. My SNES controllers after 29 years old and work just fine.

  • @kevinjustcuz
    @kevinjustcuz ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Editing been a step up lately, cool to see more of these types of sticks as well.

    • @vCuda
      @vCuda  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks man! I've been using RunwayML Ai to step up post production and this was kinda like a rough draft. Glad you like it!

  • @perm1730
    @perm1730 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    another hilarious and informative video at the same time. thank you for being REAL!

  • @optionlV
    @optionlV ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks, vCuda. Dat editing doe.. sheeeshhh
    Looking forward to the Dualsense.

  • @ABDLLHSDDQI
    @ABDLLHSDDQI หลายเดือนก่อน

    Normally I prefer channels whose videos stick to the script and are to the point, explain stuff thoroughly and don't engage in random quirky BS. Except that yours is hilarious and well done, and I love it.

  • @dax9929
    @dax9929 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    3:58 First video of yours I have seen.... You are getting another subscriber

  • @m4y0w4
    @m4y0w4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice to see the controller scanning thingy you mentioned in action. Pristine video as always 👍

  • @ChieAria
    @ChieAria ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The realest controller reviewer out there

  • @hardtobearit
    @hardtobearit ปีที่แล้ว +3

    glad to see you are back.

    • @vCuda
      @vCuda  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I may have finally gotten my act together as well! Lol

  • @ardazgames
    @ardazgames ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man,keep these vids coming lol great review.

  • @MrChimik14
    @MrChimik14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the content and your presentations. Keep it up, looking forward to more as you can get them.

  • @mundanefantasy6344
    @mundanefantasy6344 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    that was quite a trip of a controller review

  • @sirgilmour
    @sirgilmour 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dude, this is my first time watching your channel. you are funny as hell.

  • @robboostph6689
    @robboostph6689 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    03:48 needed to rewatch this over and over, damn hilarous!

  • @Theagames10
    @Theagames10 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:12 I just got this controller, and I am not able to use the 2.4G Reciever or Bluetooth at all on my laptop. (Laptop has 2.4G network bandwidth, btw, and it shouldn't give me any interference) The second I try to pair the controller with the USB inserted it makes my internet go out for no reason. i tried to pair it with Bluetooth mode and it destroyed the internet without it even recognizing the bluetooth device on my laptop.
    I am in need of serious help with this and I have already tried to contact 8BitDo, but all they have said so far was is to use the Pairing software, which only works half and half (either controller is paired or the 2.4G USB is paired) before it completely freezing my laptop as soon as I try and close out of the software, forcing me to reboot my laptop manually.

  • @saunah
    @saunah ปีที่แล้ว

    Class! Never change, my man!

  • @slopopolis
    @slopopolis ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This channel deserves infinite subscribers - relentless peak content well done

  • @theboogboi1759
    @theboogboi1759 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I absolutely love my ultimate controller
    I bought it about 6 or 7 months ago and its been pretty much the only controller ive used ever since (except for 2d platformers and i use the SN30 pro for that)

  • @mattkrumm8141
    @mattkrumm8141 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your video is the first to start with magnetic hall effect, great job.

  • @CandarianGaming
    @CandarianGaming ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You can use it in bluetooth mode on PC with gyro. After you sync it, turn the controller off then on again and it works. I did a video on it

  • @tefvid
    @tefvid ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your videos bro keep up the great work

  • @RealCerifiedGOAT
    @RealCerifiedGOAT ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks cool 🤩

  • @jonasthebrown
    @jonasthebrown 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You’re awesome, subbed!!

  • @seasonbeats6221
    @seasonbeats6221 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! First time viewer, but this was an automatic subscribe just from the dark comedy alone! Plus it’s very informative. I was planning to get the Gulikit King Kong Pro 2 controller soon but is there a way to use this natively on Xbox without the Brook Wingman 2 adapter yet?

  • @Arthur_url
    @Arthur_url ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Uh, you can use Switch mode on PC through the 2.4ghz dongle. If I'm not mistaken, you have to hold Select + Y, and it will switch to Switch mode (no need to change to Bluetooth in the back). I even tested it out with emulators, not only do they instantly recognize the controller as a Switch Pro (so no need to set up the button inputs), but the gyro works as well. I don't remember which button combination is used to go back to XInput, but its all in the manual. Also, I think you have to update its firmware first to avoid some weird conection issues.

  • @chicosuave2966
    @chicosuave2966 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video dude!

  • @kelionpro9612
    @kelionpro9612 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I’m a simple man. I see Cuda upload, I click the like button 💙

    • @THE_ASSAULT
      @THE_ASSAULT ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me 2

    • @vexy-_-1122
      @vexy-_-1122 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m a simple man when I see your mom my di Ck goes up

  • @Mark-mu4pj
    @Mark-mu4pj ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cheers good video dude.

  • @Narfs
    @Narfs ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for your vid about this controller. Is this controller the one to buy for pc gaming?
    I'm really leaning towards buying the 8BitDo for optimal pc gaming. But the 8BitDo sometimes looses the comparison with the Gulikit's KK2P, depening on where you look.
    When googling 'the best controller for pc', the Series X controller still comes out higher recommended and is said to have a better rumble, also in the triggers (which the other ones have not) and a sort of haptic feedback. This is a big plus.
    But the no friction sticks and the quick snap triggers of the Gulikit's, as well as the software (read: trigger settings) and the back-buttons of the 8BitDo and the no-deadzone hall sensors of both, are also real big plusses. So i'm breaking my brain over these controllers.

  • @lowlyatom2678
    @lowlyatom2678 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The holy grail of all controllers

  • @cgaming4439
    @cgaming4439 ปีที่แล้ว

    Solid video as always, for real though you should do other reviews.

  • @DeadandBitterGaming
    @DeadandBitterGaming ปีที่แล้ว

    I have an 8 bit do pro 2 and was looking to get some more for the house. Would you recommend those over this?

  • @JoeGunGames
    @JoeGunGames ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review

  • @jjprosper7562
    @jjprosper7562 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Ive had this controller since the beginning of December and I have used it non-stop since then. I do not mind the dpad, and I think its better than a lot of mushy dpads you can get from other controllers. I ran the no deadzone option for a while but had to increase my deadzone to 1% because of stick drift, and haven't had to change it since (1% deadzone is still amazing). I have noticed that if you press the bumpers with a little too much side force (as in not perfectly opposite to how the button travels) that they can seem to have a TON more resistance. its not something that happens often but when it does its slightly annoying, but being aware of it has pretty much allowed me to avoid having it happen mid session. The only final complaint that I have is that occasionally the controller will take 2-3 minutes to connect to the 2.4ghz dongle. Once it is connected i have no issues. Oh and I have had the double clicking issue occasionally but only in one specific game. I wasnt sure if this controller would fit any of the standard controller kontrol freeks so I got some universal thumbstick risers and I've had no problems with them. Best controller Ive used and Id buy it again

    • @Empty12345
      @Empty12345 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I already have stickdrif / stick wiggle. RIP.

    • @reddinulus
      @reddinulus ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Empty12345 same

    • @shaolinswords
      @shaolinswords ปีที่แล้ว +5

      My 2.4 ghz dock connects literally within 2-3 seconds everytime without fail. Might be an issue on your end. I have had zero stick drift whatsoever. Surprised anyone is getting drift since these are hall effect sticks.

    • @fatih372
      @fatih372 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Empty12345 some people it happens when you’re low on battery. how about yours, any update?

    • @Empty12345
      @Empty12345 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@fatih372 I realized that the correct term for my issue was JOYSTICK WIGGLE. 🤔
      Hall effect joysticks prevent stick drift caused by the metal contacts wearing down, but not stick wiggle aka loose joystick.
      The battery wasn't the cause for me... 🤷‍♂️
      More in depth:
      (When the metal parts inside the joystick module wear out and even if the joystick is physically at centered position, it drifts in the game)
      (My issue was that the joystick itself was wiggly and loose. The spring or something similar started to wear)
      (My guess would be because I play alot of Rocket League (alot of left stick spinning) that the joysticks "shaft" part gets scraped by the inner ring of the controller.
      It makes plastic dust which goes under the joystick and starts creaking and making noise (which it did) & eventually causing it to go loose & wiggle. Maybe a controller accent ring / anti-friction ring would fix this problem?)
      If someone read this, cheers! 😁✌️

  • @KOSTANZAH
    @KOSTANZAH ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the videos man 😂😂

  • @brunoob1557
    @brunoob1557 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you♥️♥️

  • @-aid4084
    @-aid4084 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    As someone who now has an 8bitdo ultimate Bluetooth controller and has used it to it's "wear in" period. the uh, only thing that isn't loose are the triggers. The dpad top part moves like 5 millimeters each direction, the joystick springs are rather loose, the abxy buttons also have a little wiggle. the back buttons are in my opinion a little too easy to push, it took a bit before I could press them lightly enough. while in use however, these little visual oddities aren't noticeable in games. basically it isn't enough of a hindrance to impact gameplay.

    • @-aid4084
      @-aid4084 ปีที่แล้ว

      I probably have a couple hundred hours on the controller, since I play games a lot.

    • @TJzWayy
      @TJzWayy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Still?

    • @-aid4084
      @-aid4084 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TJzWayyyep, and my right joystick has developed some stick drift, which shouldn't really be happening, and the whole range of positions for every axis on both joysticks has shifted, so I had to adjust my dead zones to get full input.

  • @Sundaiiz
    @Sundaiiz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That Mark section got me 😂

  • @GregRosolowski
    @GregRosolowski ปีที่แล้ว

    The roundness is deliberate. Not sure why but the majority of controllers have a deliberate zone in a certain amount of degrees that the X and Y can be maxed out.

  • @hukkerz
    @hukkerz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have the wired version for series x , been beating the hell out of it for months , still works like new and super responsive . Recommend over power A all day .

    • @brianrussell4263
      @brianrussell4263 ปีที่แล้ว

      Does the wired version have the same sticks as the one in this review?

  • @henrrypoop7570
    @henrrypoop7570 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Holy crap this guy channel is funny as heck

  • @SstylerMA
    @SstylerMA ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wanna buy the 2.4g version but I'm afraid if the sticks are shit cuz they're not hall effect, anyone here has it to give me an opinion?

  • @1fareast14
    @1fareast14 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Unrelated, but the jokes are tighter/more solid than usual. Still edgy for my taste, but the growth is cool to see!

    • @vCuda
      @vCuda  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you enjoyed them! I went a little crazy in this video, I don't plan to be this wild in my Dualsense Edge review lol

  • @madeulook5872
    @madeulook5872 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fox body mustang design had me fuckin crying 😂. You're amazing dude

  • @AiLife115
    @AiLife115 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally you release a videooooooooooooo

  • @PatrickThomasBrady
    @PatrickThomasBrady ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sega does what everyone else don’t, the Dreamcast controller and the Saturn 3d controller both used magnetic sensors in their sticks, with all the attention stick drift is getting and everyone using shitty potentiometer sticks from alps alpine, you’d think there’d be a huge market for the Hall effect sticks, hope gulikit looks at the situation and starts offering replacement sticks for other controllers

  • @jamesducey7235
    @jamesducey7235 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I bought an 8bitdo pro switch controller based on your review and it randomly will turn left slower then normal. It is very frustrating and gets resolved after reconnecting. I hope the hal effect sticks catch on cause that feature is nice. I hate the triggers though. I am used to having trigger stops and these feel like they just sink in forever. I think I share your anger in that there is no clear best controller. They are all bad in their own ways and I can't find one I love for Apex. I wish I knew what your current most recommended controller was, like a regular top 3 or something.

  • @nexusprime2487
    @nexusprime2487 ปีที่แล้ว

    in order to pair in bluetooth mode in pc was to press the sync button while the controller is on and then shake it to get it into pairing mode.

  • @Macktube
    @Macktube ปีที่แล้ว

    Just wondering are you planning on getting the Dualsense Edge and Reviewing it?

  • @zazakage62
    @zazakage62 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    1:59 bro you caught me there HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

  • @bradlesmcgee9566
    @bradlesmcgee9566 ปีที่แล้ว

    well shiet Cuda now i gotta buy this controller you got me hyped

  • @D1S0-
    @D1S0- ปีที่แล้ว

    YOOoO glad the gamesir g7 is getting that review

  • @markmorgan1842
    @markmorgan1842 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video brother

  • @hynum
    @hynum ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m curious does this controller come with a wire or do we have to buy a wire ourselves

  • @l_steve_l
    @l_steve_l ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I use mine with my steam deck - maybe a firmware update fixed that issue. And I confirmed just now you can pair with BT on PC - shows up as a switch pro controller.

    • @rb1051
      @rb1051 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      steam skateboard

    • @hansennoah1
      @hansennoah1 ปีที่แล้ว

      does gyro work

  • @Peanutfiendsblog
    @Peanutfiendsblog ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I love this controller for gaming in Linux with the 2.4ghz dock passthrough for the dongle. I bought it a few weeks ago and it's the best controller I've found for gaming in Linux with Steam/Proton. Very sturdy feeling and the rumble works perfect. I've been using it to play Octopath Traveler 2 and it's very responsive. I love how when I remove it from the dock, it's ready to go,

  • @TRiNi_ZDG
    @TRiNi_ZDG ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Came for the controller review, stayed for the personality and the lack of a filter. Kinda refreshing

    • @TJzWayy
      @TJzWayy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same way he got me

  • @cesarcallejas1499
    @cesarcallejas1499 ปีที่แล้ว

    New subscriber please reply : where did you get the thumb stick? I have been looking for this like crazy 😢

  • @bonanzabrandon6877
    @bonanzabrandon6877 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder what the odds are that there will be hall effect joystick modules for the dualsense edge.

  • @ohetaki8016
    @ohetaki8016 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have a review on the afterglow wave? I'm wondering if it's a more reliable alternative to the powerA spectra enhanced. Considering they are about the same price and just simply similar in general.

  • @Lunacy_Phoenix
    @Lunacy_Phoenix ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Question and potential project. would it be possible to buy one of these controllers and harvest the Hall effect sticks, then transplant them into a stock Xbox or Playstation controller? If so how well would it work?

    • @defaultskinhennesy
      @defaultskinhennesy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've been considering this myself and the answer is no. The readings of hall-effect magnets require a special translator in the controller to be read by whatever you're using it with. If you were super in depth, knew where to purchase the niche parts, owned a 3D printer, and have a full soldering iron kit--you could 𝘵𝘦𝘤𝘩𝘯𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘭𝘭𝘺 do it, but yeah not yet for average or even advanced consumers. There's one guy on YT trying to do it for PS4 controllers, that's about it for right now.

  • @lucasfabian3848
    @lucasfabian3848 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    k-silver or alps is better? 8bitdo ultimate have 2 variants, one with xbox logo ( alps) and another with 8bitdo logo( k silver), i confused

  • @sirioghiringhellidia9193
    @sirioghiringhellidia9193 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice work bro...ps5 pro controller? and razer new controller? i don't know what buy....i play fps on apex legends...i know razer have problem with built in deadzone....it's fixable? because i wanna try have a lot of buttons...i'm tired to play double claw....for my hands is to difficult and heavy(sport has ruined my fingers)....keep up your wonderful work

  • @vJesusGaming
    @vJesusGaming ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks stil waiting for 1ms controller, 4 good back buttons, accuracy stick and trigger stop...

  • @ZoroPTD
    @ZoroPTD ปีที่แล้ว

    The one thing I would love to see from anyone reviewing this controller is testing it on Android. I need to know how well it works.

  • @astreakaito5625
    @astreakaito5625 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    rofl lmao your jokes are amazing, 10/10 subbed, also great in-depth review, thanks

  • @ipodgames1000
    @ipodgames1000 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    which would you recommend between the ultimate and king kong 2?

  • @SMITHII_
    @SMITHII_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    King kong dropped the ball hard on the lack of back buttons. I would give them my money in a heartbeat if they had them.

  • @lagtowngaming4013
    @lagtowngaming4013 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought this controller like 2 months ago to replace a pro controller for my nintendo switch i play smash bros ultimate daily and even compete and the controller is fine feels like new actually

  • @snappset
    @snappset ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't even care about the controllers tbh, these videos are fire 100/100

  • @Clikyn
    @Clikyn ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad your back. Also can you use this controller wired.

  • @markopolo7651
    @markopolo7651 ปีที่แล้ว

    It would be cool to see an overview of the sonicon plus, it has hall effect sensors as well but I haven't seen much feedback on it at all.

  • @basmus
    @basmus 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    3:57 this made me laugh at 5 am in the morning

  • @Offishu
    @Offishu ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review! Do you know if the wired one uses the same sticks?

    • @ChawedMirthPrattEnterprise
      @ChawedMirthPrattEnterprise ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They do not. It's only the ultimate Bluetooth that have the magnetic sticks.

  • @adoginabox
    @adoginabox ปีที่แล้ว

    Would like to know if the controller would work on the Brooks wingman converter for Xbox series X|S. Thanks in advance.

  • @xaytana
    @xaytana ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Hall effect sensors *DO* develop drift, it's just how they are and there's no way around it. They have an infancy period of high voltage drift, that drops and plateaus to a low, that then shows age-related voltage drift that becomes a runaway issue; this quiescent drift rating is only around 1000 hours. There's also no real mitigation against this, as it does become a runaway issue, meaning drift gets worse as it ages past the quiescent period. Think about it, 1000 hours of use time isn't much, especially when people love to leave their wireless controllers on constantly; this is why you don't really see warranties for these kinds of products, manufacturers know the sensors will shit the bed fairly quickly, and if there is a warranty it'll be pretty short. Keep in mind this is also average among the set, so infancy period, rated voltage drift, the quiescent age-related voltage drift rating, as well as how badly age-related drift ramps up after the quiescent period are all pretty much a roll of the dice; and as the tested set grows, initial major outliers can also come closer to the realistic numbers, so data isn't even consistent if it's not continually updated.
    For sticks, this is _bad._ Consider how the sensors are used in a stick, you constantly have the magnet over the sensor, which means you have a floating center; also why GuliKit sticks are a bit notorious for having jumpy centers, though there's also other issues surrounding this; non-linearity and saturation issues, GK's design which 8BD uses as well as AYANEO, and the Steam Deck replacement sticks, uses a rotational sweep rather than a linear sweep on a sensor that prefers the linear sweep, this rotational sweep also causes variation in magnet strength through the sweep and is propably hitting saturation in the physical sensor, causing the jumpy center issues. This also means the sensor is _always_ in use, and even at the extreme negative of the axis, where a magnet would otherwise typically out of the range of the sensor in any other setup, the magnet is still within the sensor's range, meaning a 100% on-time.
    Now also consider that analog triggers for about a decade or so, outside of PlayStation and some third parties, also use hall sensors, but think about why this is a non-issue for them. First of all, triggers aren't meant to be super accurate anyways, the most accurate thing you'll do with them is feather throttle and brake in a racing game, but even that's fairly clunky. Second, you have to understand how these sensors are meant to operate, the optimal model is a magnet and sensor on offset planes, meaning two-axes parallel with only a height offset, with either A) a rotating magnet on the sensing axis, B) a lateral linear sweep of the magnet along the sensing axis, or C) a vertical linear movement of the magnet in relation to the sensing axis; now look at how triggers physically operate, they're quite often hinged, which means you have an off-axis rotation combined with the vertical linear sweep around that off-axis pivot, which results in a very non-uniform output graph. Between these two, triggers just are not accurate in the slightest, whereas sticks are meant to be an order of magnitude (if not a couple of orders) higher in resolution, and combine this with the additional downsides of the sticks, you can see why triggers are a non-issue while sticks are an issue. Also, triggers have their resting point outside of the sensor's range, this is why you don't see resting drift.
    There's better tech out there, just nobody is really chasing it. Sony had a design (the four pin modules in the SixAxis and DualShock 3 controllers) throughout the PS3 cycle (early Fat era to at least Super Slim, if not into the latter's era), and only up until recently did anyone figure out what it actually was, because nobody cared to look into it; as far as I know, I'm the only person to have actually probed one for various resistances and voltages and documented it, I now understand what Sony, or more accurately ALPS (they're so much larger than you might realize, with more variety in components than you might realize) as they produced the four pin modules, had done, and after I do some looking and running some numbers I'm passing the project off to a couple contacts I have in the industry to see if they'll produce something with it, as it's getting to the point of requiring fab work to produce a simplistic model, just as the original Sony/ALPS modules had their own fab line. Beyond this, as this solution still has downsides such as external fields being a problem, there's even better solution that's nobody is chasing, I've found _one_ patent that does what I had in mind from 2019, and another patent along more novel ideas from 1996 that could see a lot of improvement with modern novel approaches, but these are the only research into inductive sticks that I could find. There's also some other novel solutions beyond this, but they require more effort to pull off, such as an optoelectronic solution, or other tech that isn't a form of magnetosensor.
    The whole issue with this is that this is just a marketing scheme. ALPS has caused an issue by reducing quality of their potentiometers, someone has stepped up with a solution that's poorly understood by the wider community. What isn't understood by the wider community is that hall sensors have a dogshit usable accurate lifespan, yet nobody listens to this when it's spoken of. Potentiometers, as a technology, are not a problem, a properly specced potentiometer can easily last you a lifetime, the issue comes in when the manufacturers over-spec their products and underdeliver on longevity; all that's really needed is a carbon resistor compound that won't degrade under intended use, these products have force ratings after all, excessive force past their intended use is what's degrading them so quickly. So while hall sensors may be marginally better, and really only at the first 1000 hours before age-related voltage drift shows up and becomes a runaway issue, they're not a long-term solution, but the entire gaming community is taking the bait and praising these sensors while not understanding their downsides and how the products will absolutely shit themselves. Thus, it's all marketing buzz, so that these companies can profit, which is the only thing they care about; they don't care about you, they don't care about wasted controllers, they don't care about the wider industry, they only care that profits go up. Also take into consideration, once your hall sensors do shit themselves, they'll be even harder to replace; why, because they're SMD sensors that also require on alignment accuracy to function properly, if you skew the sensing axis in relation to the magnet, or vice versa, you will have less accurate input, again on a fairly high fidelity input device. Dreamcast also did the whole hall effect thing 25 years ago, it wasn't a big new idea then, and there's a reason why that stick design never caught on; which adds to why it's just marketing buzz now.

    • @iLiekLemonade
      @iLiekLemonade ปีที่แล้ว +4

      i aint reading all that

    • @jakesnyder2667
      @jakesnyder2667 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@iLiekLemonade Congratulations on making yourself look illiterate as hell and of having the attention span of a toddler. Why even comment, unless you're just narcissistic or histrionic. There's good information within the comment, but clearly it's over your head. Consider going back to Fortnite and taking an L within the first 25, ripbozo.

    • @rd7935
      @rd7935 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very thorough insight, thanks for taking the time to explain

    • @hansennoah1
      @hansennoah1 ปีที่แล้ว

      thats interesting but normal controllers have not faired me well so i bit the bullet and got the GK kk2 pro, so far it hasnt been 1000 hours of usage so it hasnt shit itself, do you have any gamepad recommendations ?

  • @the.halodoctor
    @the.halodoctor ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi bro. Would liked to have heard a bit more on the controller and a bit less about the system - do a separate video on the system 👌🏼 i'd still watch it. But I'd have liked to have heard in a bit more depth your thoughts, and also how this controller compares to others in a similar budget etc

  • @MOTLrBlaze
    @MOTLrBlaze ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there a way to swap normal sticks to the hall fx sticks on controlers like the wolverine v2 chroma or any other pro controlers?

  • @MrAintGoing
    @MrAintGoing ปีที่แล้ว

    What’s your honest opinion on the Eswap x is it a bad controller

  • @ODDiSEE_
    @ODDiSEE_ ปีที่แล้ว

    Did this man buy a copy of mein komf for a joke? True legend.

  • @Balambambuny
    @Balambambuny ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The squareness and stiffness of sticks/triggers made me return the controller, which is sad because everything about it is excellent, but the pain kinda ruined my gaming experience. If you don't have these issues this controller is a no brainer pick.

  • @NAHK
    @NAHK ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've been using this controller for about 2 months, laying it upside down, throwing it in my bag, literally slept on it one night. No stick drift.

  • @milkkolaj
    @milkkolaj 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does this rule apply to different colour options like purple etc? (them controllers that don't come with a dock?)

  • @dontatmebro-
    @dontatmebro- ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Vcuda will you ever do a review on the 8bitdo Pro 2? Just curious!

  • @rip1191
    @rip1191 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your videos and I apologize if this question was answered, but is this controller compatible with the PS5? I'm really hoping so.

  • @mjrpayne19
    @mjrpayne19 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    No anti-friction rings for the thumb sticks is unfortunate though. Be nice if it also shared the hall effect triggers with the Pro 2 as well.

    • @CPS2
      @CPS2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cut a thin strip of kapton tape and make a couple of wraps around the stick shaft.
      Been doing it for years and it works beautifully.

  • @ikefights
    @ikefights ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice - waiting on the dualsense edge review (i just bought that shit) - but gonna pick up this 8bitdo badboy just in case i decide not to keep the edge

  • @1fareast14
    @1fareast14 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:44 I almost got that flamingo version back in the day, my condolences

  • @stylianostzan3084
    @stylianostzan3084 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey vcuda, i have a few questions. I bought the 8bitdo ultimate when I heard that it rocks the Gulikit thumbsticks, and since the king kong 2 pro is not available in my country. So, since the thumb sticks are made by Gulikit, why do they feel so different from the 8bitdo? also, since the ultimate's sticks are so stiff (oooh they are pretty stiff), I guess that means that the spring they use is stiff right? why is there this small drift happening if you have disabled deadzones or as you mentioned, when on low battery? Is there any way to calibrate the sticks better by ourselves? or any firmware update chance that might do something for these things?? Though i do not think it possible...

    • @vCuda
      @vCuda  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      To start off, I'm not entirely sure why the thumbsticks feel so different. My current guess is a difference in response time, since the King Kong controller seems to be rather lackluster in that department apparently.
      And while you can update the firmware of the controller, I'm not sure of a calibration feature for the thumbsticks. But I surely could've missed something

    • @l_steve_l
      @l_steve_l ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Watch out - if you got the Ultimate 2.4ghz edition that has ALPS not Hall sticks. If yours doesn't have the toggle switch on the back you don't have the gulikit sticks.

    • @stylianostzan3084
      @stylianostzan3084 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@l_steve_l I know. I did my searching. I got the Bluetooth version

  • @clintmurphy5436
    @clintmurphy5436 ปีที่แล้ว

    So which version comes with the hall effect thumb sticks? Their site mentions NOTHIING about hall effect thumb sticks on either version. Thanks for another solid review vcuda!!

    • @vCuda
      @vCuda  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching! And the version with hall effect sticks is the Ultimate Bluetooth for switch. Theres another switch ultimate but its 2.4ghz, it doesn't have Bluetooth or hall effect sticks

    • @clintmurphy5436
      @clintmurphy5436 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vCuda Thanks bro!

  • @ceverett68
    @ceverett68 ปีที่แล้ว

    have you reviewed that stream controller with the touch pad?