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'Not Sure What China Has Gained Through Aggression'
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ส.ค. 2024
- NEW DELHI: "China has lost India strategically. If they wanted India to play a role between them and the US, that is not going to happen. India is now firmly with the US," says Gautam Bambawale, former ambassador to China and one of the longest serving joint secretaries on the MEA's' China Desk. He talks to StratNewsGlobal in our series One Year Since Galwan, giving an overview of the diplomatic context.
India and China are now in a "brave new world", he argues. China by its actions in Ladakh, has torn up the peace and tranquility agreements signed since 1988. He underscored the external affairs minister's fateful words, "India China relations are at the crossroads," and unless there is a resolution of the boundary issue, India is certain that there cannot be any improvement in relations.
China has not been aggressive only against India, he points out. It's been aggressive all over the world including with its littoral neighbours. It's clear that for them the days of lying low are over, they want to show their strength to the world and "i'm not sure for what gain," he says.
More in this conversation with Gautam Bambawale, former ambassador to China, in our series on Galwan.
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they don't care that they have lost India strategically. This is because they don't see us as a threat.
Agreed: Judge them by their actions but India did get surprised. In that vein, Galwan could be a decoy. How ready is India to give battle, if China tries to separate Assam and everything beyond from the rest of the country, by making a similar break-neck move from East of Sikkim to South of Siliguri/Jalpaiguri (barely 160 kms.)? Chinese military is already inside Bangladesh at that point. How does India signal that Xi should consider other countries to attack instead of India?
Hoping our country has strengthen our defenses in the Northeast. Cannot trust the chinese all the talks are meaningless..its like talking to aliens from outer space.
Very insightful conversation.Would love to know from ambassador Bambawale as to why India is not recognising Tibet
or at the very least supporting them.If it is due to the fear of china supporting insurgents them its already happening.
Go ahead with that, and show the world that India is just moron in geopolitics.
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china have to pay the price. Today tomorrow or next day. But china will pay the price. Jai Hind 🇮🇳
Thank you for your Analysis, Love it.
Very good discussion
The sacrifice of brave 20 change the thinking of minds of small nations like Indonesia. China is bulling only not determine to fight war. Declared only 4 officers of its army died during Galwan clash. India needs to be very offensive against China. Boycott China is the best tool to world people.
Chinese have this superiority chips on their shoulder. They are trying to be too
Clever by half! They have to given a bruising experience to clear up their minds. There'll be a cost for sure, but it'll create a more realistic paradigm in India🇮 China relationship.
Very good insight explanation by former ambassador, I would like from stratnewsglobal channel to put some throught of special representative level talk since begaining till date and any progress,it may be in present in part wise??
@22:00 on balancing positions. So essentially Gautham is asking for Jaishankar and Ram Madhav to trash the "India Way", which calls for bilateral discussions. The foolishness of the India Way was exposed in the Ladakh invasion last year
Would gladly support getting rid of the India Way. Jaishankar may have to refund the monies on his book by that name
If not judge China by words, why call them to the table to talk and to discuss...
Mr. Ambassador's comments are just very childish. Why did Mr. Ambassador think India has the weight to play ANY role between China and the US? India's GDP is about 1/5 that of China, 1/7 that of the US. Both China and the US are permanent members of the UN security council, while India is not. China is India's number 2 trading partner, accounting for 10% of India's trades. But India is only number 11 in China's trading partners, a mere 2% of China's total trade. I can't see what India can do to force or help China to do anything.
🙏 Namaste!
an excellent plain speaking guest 🌷
A clear and concise discussion, between two experts in their respective fields.
With emphasis on the asymmetry in different areas between China and India, and the need for proactive moves by India.
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Unless China is made to realise that she will have to pay a very heavy price militarily, she will not relent from her attempts to beat us .Unfortunately this Modi govt. has already lost the battle by allowing China to come to Sri Lanka and surround us from the South too. Whether it is BJP or Congress, both the main political parties from North India have no idea that because of their collective stupidity and lack of strategic vision this has happened. Till the LTTE was there ,India had some clout with the Sri Lankan govt. , there. Falsely making the LTTE the scapegoat in the assassination of Mr Rajiv Gandhi and playing a huge part in its destruction , India has , in fact , invited its own possible destruction at the hands of the combined force of the Chinese ,the Sri Lankans ,and in future the Pakistanis from the soft underbelly of India ,the South. It is no wonder that the global Tamil Community is positively hostile to India for completely alienating it and surrendering its interests to the Sinhalese, who have already betrayed the trust of India.
Grown into a bullying dragon but still suffering from an inferiority complex
Very informative
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Mr. Bambawale, while you describe the Quad as a security arrangement, our government strenuously pussy foots around acknowledging the security aspect. Why not be up front about it and be in their face? What better way to keep them out of balance?
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most Neutrals experts believe India has lost Patrolling Routes Near Depsang etc how many Sq Km depends who you ask, I think Indians made a Mistake of withdrawing from Pangong too early
The colonial power when give independent to India intentionally did not marked the boarder properly (maybe fearing revenges from India ), so when needed they will press the button, now they had press the button, so India & China go to war to destroy India & China economy. India are very aware of the concept of divide & rule.
Look at what happen to India & Pakistan, both are very similar people but religion are different, Pakistan & India spend a lot of money on war & defense and both are poor because the war, divide & rule concept. The political leadership should talk peace & cooperation.
I gave a like just for Nikhil . From where these JNU type IAS , Editors, Ambassadors come . Total waste . China did a real time war game to probe & did SWOT analysis . When Internally Congi , comies , jihadis & sold out media up in arms to put down Sanatana Dharma there is little hope .
When XI says make China lovable, he means world shd love Chinese expansionism and aggressive behaviour.
making enemies left and right for no strategic gain.. foolish. just because you can push around tiny countries like canada and australia, doesn't mean it's wise policy, every other country is watching.
@taladuga picpwaspwat India isn't going around bullying dozens of other countries the way China is. India didn't start a pandemic and then conceal and downplay its severity for months. India isn't taking part in ethnic cleansing.
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Don't want to criticize d diplomat....but he too reactive and defensive of wat sd our country do
Many many falsehood in these talks and expressions.
1) economy is #1 item to ficus on. But, I disagree that India needs to get back to 8%. 15% is doable
2) I doubt the Quad is a viable solution any more. With NATO and EU focusing in the SCS, India is no longer relevant. India is too slow and does not commit to anything meaningful
LOL even 8% is difficult given impact due to delta variant, Indians are really good at day dreaming.
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chinese had gained large areas of indian areas especially at northern ladakh ( Aksai Chin) and eastern ladakh along the pangong so lake. Cant you see that Gautam Bambawale?
Your statement is factually incorrect.Name me the areas gained, and the year when they gained them. The spots you have mentioned were the no man's land which had been demilitarized by agreements, and these agreements have been unceremoniously scrapped by them at will.Also, gain in reference to what?China never recognized the India-China border, yet Nehru agreed to acquiesce in their forcible occupation of Tibet.His failure to clearly think the issues through in 1950 is the basis for the asymmetrical standoff today.China is salami slicing the remote unoccupied territory on the Himalayan border like a criminal; but it has formidable military, nuclear and economic power as well.India can't deal with them as they can do with Pakistan.
@@physicsonline8853 you mean to say india never lost any area to china in 1962 war and the in the recent intrusion into ladakh? Come on..you must be sleeping. Or in total denial like modi who said there is no enemy in indian soil..
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Yeah, they did to 2013
Modi became another Nehru for India. He was regarded as pro chinese among CCP. Xi tried this misadventures because he was sure that modi is not that visionary to foresee the PLA thread. Modi received iron fist from Chinese .
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