The India Alternative | Can Germany and Europe Embrace It
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- This video was originally published by the German Day of Industry: • #TDI24 - New Powers, O...
Explore the evolving dynamics of global power with our expert panel. Can Germany and Europe stay ahead of rising powers? Learn more about India's meteoric rise and its implications for global leadership.
Speakers:
Benedikt Franke, Chief Executive Officer, Munich Security Conference
Samir Saran, President, Observer Research Foundation, India
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"Europe is not missing critical minerals but critical thinking" - Samir Saran
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A bunch of lost souls leading the EU countries 😂😂😂
Yeah...and indians who have critical thinking are begging for European investments lol.😂😂😂
This guy only has critical thinking in talks and useless debates without achieving anything.
@@roberts2697 People do investments for growth and not for philanthropy. If europe is doing investment in India then that means they know that their money is going to grow. It is not "begging" when you double the money. THats how basic economics work.
america = germany and whole europe's uncle sam
@@mihirpingle5067 Fair enough, but India's "growth" is basically someone getting 40% in lsat exam is now scoring 50%, i.e. havng 25% growth. Both infrastructure and skill level of workforce are appalling.
The lady asks probing questions but still doesn't know that India's PM is the main dude not the president. This is the problem. With Europe and the USA. They just don't know enough about the world yet want to make rules for it.
Her general knowledge is abysmal
...as it happens when US is taken as a role model !😊
The lady look like having sever hangover
...well she should know since she has a german accent and in Germany the president has nothing to say. Only the chancellor...which is the equivalent to a P.M.
Atleast she is trying her best.
samir exposed european and western hypocrisy once again. well done.
Expose and do what ?
@@lokeshsag dude how low is your IQ to ask this stupid question?
@@lokeshsag
...make it part of mainstream conversation/narrative, instead of pretending it doesn't exist.
This then paves the way for the next move, workable way forward.
@@lokeshsag Aww the Rahul Gandhi of diplomacy.
Exposed and then what? Do you really think they care about what some third world guy who speaks English has to say about them. Their future and our future are not tied together. Unless we can grow an indigenous industry, we will continue being beggars. Sorry to burst your bubble, but India doesn't rank really high on the white man's radar. Even Africans, who get 90% of their free medical supplies from us take us in jest and don't take us seriously. Its time for self introspection and stop living in "vishvaguru" la la land.
"There is no but, you are to blame" love this man.
12:34 It's your fault. 😂
That’s called respectfully “insulting” for Europe. 😂😂
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The anchor really have had hard time grasping what was being said, while the audience and the other guest were clearly in sync.
True, she actually kept missing his points.
Maybe she is just intentionally pretending.
@@jayakrushnasahoo4403 no they are actually very stupid people.
Oh Yes very very very hard time not to understand but to to accept the new reality, and by disagreeing to samir's point on Chinese investments in their country and media ads she proves that how Europe can be ignorant of and hypocrite to other countries especially global south "period"😂
Missing critical thinking 😂
I don't know Dr. Samir, first time listened to him speak. Superlative. Bless you and India. Vetri South African Indian 🙏🇿🇦🇿🇦🙏
Samir is the president of ORF..biggest think tank of bharat.
@@BharatXtreme 🙏🇿🇦🇿🇦🙏❤️❤️
Love you bro! We are together in this! Day will come when we lead this world financially.
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Sameer gave a 100% fact check straight forward, crystal clear. It was needed among all the diplomatic mumbos and jumbos.
He comfortably glossed over lack of work ethnics and chalta-hai attitude of Indians.
One Samir Saran is enough to take on Europe! Man he laid it out and with charm too! Jai Hind Sir!
Bravo Samir.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 " Take on " Europe!
Indians spend a lot of time talking and debating and achieve nothing . Every year you can see them debate on the same issue of pollution in India , every year i watch their debate on NDTV or India today and eyery year you can see them fighting and blaming each other but they never managed to make any improvement on the pollution problem.
Take on Europe ? Bends over if getting a chance to go to Europe 😂
He is good enough to fool Indians for the next decades with his shallow rhetoric but not good enough to fool the Westerners, nor even good enough to fool a person from the Global South with little geopolitics knowledge. As a proverb once said, rippling water is a sign that it's shallow.
I have seen that interview samir saran was on fire 🔥
Which one brother ..
Bheek mang raha hai laga opening remarks sun kar
And then what? We are constantly on fire and everyone laughs at us. While there is a large degree of propaganda involved, we make ourselves the laughing stock of the world by gauging ourselves higher than we actually are. Look at China, they kept their head low for 40 years till it was time to show the middle finger to the world. We were hearing how the Chinese economy is going to be destroyed in a few months, but its only growing stronger. We are importing more stuff today from China than we were a decade back. Our policies are whack, our state lacks vision and our people are sub-par when it comes to moving ahead with critical issues. Unfortunately the current dispensation have lampooned our elites and selected the worst to represent us.
Typical indian call center scammer spotted 😂
@@RamakrishnamurthyYeleswarapu unpadh logo ko wohi lagega ki English pe chilla kyu raha hai XD
The moderator exhibits the arrogance and ignorance that has afflicted EU.
More ignorance than arrogance, as somehow she appears to be semi-clueless.
Exactly...well said.
Also she reflects the bias and entitlement
I felt that was deliberate act of inducing Samir to talk more. She is good.
She wasn't arrogant at all mate
Europe don't know good about their system change than Sameer giving them a mirror to see the change.
And they aren't very humble or honest about it! You can see that in their responses, body language, diplomatic language & actions, use of International body to defame India & others, dubious index & ranking reports etc...
He is having breakfast, lunch and dinner at the same time 😎
My god.. what an orator saran is..
Yes, Modi loves people who can talk but never deliver.
And Rahul loves people who propagate anti india agenda work against the national intrest
@@AMPA33💀💀
@@AMPA33yes modi should appoint muslim woman .as they know only one thing that is deliver😪
@@AMPA33 Not deliver? What do you want? Besides the islamic State? Or the Western puppet, gandi family?
That Indian man has a fire in his heart.
Still the Europeans are not interested, that's what I conclude from this video. Either they don't understand or they can't comprehend. Kudos to Samir for trying
Thanks because, europe has not started speaking unfiltered like Samir.
Europeans are not interest because this kind of talk provide no benefit to them except telling them when and how they're wrong.
😂😂 colonial power who looted all indian wealth blaming us for remaining poor
Typical whitey😂 so full of it - snakes will be snakes
EU is not UK. Get your facts right
@@Aerrow62 And UK was able to trade the looted food, fabrics, raw materials at a cheaper, competitive price to the European nations, that increased trade and connectivity across Europe. Simultaneously, other EU nations like Dutch, French and others were doing their part extracting resources, labour and traded across European countries at a cheaper prices, that made average people richer.
This is how it works, when countries get supply of the resources at cheaper price bcs their people did not have to work hard to produce them. The supply in the market increased production in the local economies in Europe.
Before the colonial powers set out, China and Indian territories were the richest in the world. Back then rich meant having enough food and clothes, which they were good at doing. When the colonial power left, they were the poorest civilisations in the world, they missed the industrial revolution, bcz they were busy giving away the raw materials and their people were not educated, bcz they were not even fed properly, due to their foods being taken away. Generalisations after generalisations they had to do farming only to survive and produce food for their masters. They needed more and more sons to carry out farming work. That also increased population, which was born out of necessity.
Western history books never explain how centuries of extraction affected rich civilisations.
But you don't agree how much corruption and illiteracy still exist in your country! Same hand your partner china groww so better than you but you still choosing politician that can help you to give a chance in 1st in queue
@@alex0315truth.
most of people still illiterate bcz of corruption and society
Already seen it. Can't wait so long when Mr. Samir is in panel...
Samir ji was lit...😂🔥🔥
"We are in competition with our friends than our rivals" - Benedikt Franke, well said.
Samir rocks!!! Europe doesn’t know where to go and how to go!!! They decide everything on historical baggages and fixed mindsets.
@@Newshunter. so true. The whole world has changed but EU seems to be in some bubble
Indians are more geopolitically aware than rest of the people around the world.
It clearly shows that there is a difference in intellect.
In India, people know how to seek for opportunity and capitalize on it.
That's very right my friend !!!
Samir never disappoints - crisp, clear, concise. The moderator was there to comply with "gender equality", otherwise how can you explain her "light-weightedness" against the always brilliant Samir.
That is an interesting point and perhaps has some validity but I actually saw it from a different angle. I saw it from the angle that he is a man & he knows he's talking to a woman and culturally comes from a country that allows him as a man to talk over a woman and put her in her place and to prevail by the strength of his voice and the size of his body. This is NOT to say in the home that the man rules in India because in the home the wife rules, the woman rules, and it is matriarchal in that sense absolutely and unconditionally which is why they have very strong women. So I would say to this person --nnbc 8000-- put that in your pipe & smoke it😊
Europe is sleeping in leadership, identity, industrial decline, unindependent, and worse of all a strategic future going forward.
Saran is simply awesome ..
Kudos to Dr. Samir Saran! One would be hard pressed to find a better person than him to articulate Bharat's position on geo-political issues in international platforms.
I LOVED the way Sameer gave the lectures.. we do not hesitate to speak out to the West no longer...that's why our Image is changing to the world...I might be an NRI but my heart and soul are in India..
Jai hind
@@stevenlai1199 Jai Hind
Sameer, you are phenomenal!
the moderator's obsession over their controlling power
When I see chaps like Saran and see how well informed articulate intellectually honest they are I am left with no doubt that West has to give more space to Indians in running world affairs
No one is asking the west for permission to give space to indians..People of world's oldestand greatest civilisation BHARAT make their own space...don't worry..wait for few more decades...and west will be begging bharat for space.
@@BharatXtreme What Bharat? I am a Bharatiya and we have no TOILETS. People are still using ✌🏽holy river
🌊 Ganga✌🏽for toilet.
Have you ever travelled to Europe or western countries. Our roads are filled with dust and waste. What makes ya eligible to talk to a westerners? LMAO.
@@SoorajSuseelan10001 i am a bharatiya. You say we have no toilets. thats absolutely absurd.. india has most toilets on earth ..the quality of toilets in the rural india and public toilets is not up to the modern level... but every one in india has acess to toilet..If out of 1.4 billion + people, some jokers choose not to use it then thats their personal choice... Most people don't pollute maa ganga.. they used to in congressi era when we didn't had any toilets available..but not anymore..some idiots don't mean everyone is polluting maa ganga or other holy rivers.
@@SoorajSuseelan10001don't come up with fake id..no one can stop indias progress bcz we are inclusive
@@arunk7183 I myself is Indian. My Id is not fake. And what I said was true
What a clinical and honest discussion... loved it
I love Mr. Saran’s confidence and clarity.
Clearly, from the host's remark about free trade, Samir's answer at around 20:00 mins is a gem. Germany and EU is either confused or stupid to think that it has free / equal trade with China.
It seems the whole world are stupid except india, they all don't know what they are doing, so funny.
If you bloom, butterflies will come naturally
funny because India restrict EU export even more than China does... xD
he is missing the plot... EU goes to China because it alternative India is worst...
and until India is willing to admit they are more close door than China, they will never change...
and companies will still have to invest in China, because only China is willing to do business.
Samir's response is just purely junk rhetoric if China bans foreign companies we would not have seen BASF invested another 10 billion in China last year, Apple pulling back its production lines from India and signing up with BYD as the new manufacturing partner. EU and Germany is not stupid and certainly not stupid enough to invest more with India.
Sir is just Uncensored version of Dr. S. Jaishankar
Ladies and gentlemen here is ur successor of Mr Jaishankar😂😂
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Indeed
Kudos Samir Saran for being precise and bold enough to put the fact in words.
The lady is already in the Chinese pocket stubbornly supporting China😂
There are many useful idiots who are doing it completely for free 🤷♂️
Any smart person who isn’t corrupt supports China. If they want “money” it pays more to support the west
that is a good thing
@@karenhearthart1491you were correctly named Karen 😂
Being a realistic and offering the truth is not in the pocket of China. India does not have the infrastructure nor the technological talent to offer the US+EU compared to China.
Samir Saran 🙌 taking control of the narrative 💪
If she was really speaking for a lot of colleagues as she mentioned then that's the real face of EU, ignorance and arrogance towards south.
what an opening comment by Mr Saran. As a european, I so agree to his opinion.
Great set of comments and observations by Samir saran. We need multiple voices like this in all international forums to effect change in the international order.
Wow what an explosive comments by Samir Saran. Truly enjoyed it.
Oh man...Samir is just killed it. Great views and claps from audience says it all.
Well said Samir sir
Wow Samir is really good👍
Loved this talk!! Certainly, anchor was not doing her job instead trying to be a third panelist putting her own perceptions forward.
Straight to the point talk by #SamirSaran #ORF Wonderful job!
Excellent discussion. Samir calls a spade, a spade and not an entrenching device!
Sameer, you articulated everything so well. BTW: That was a beautifully understated presenter 😊
Always a pleasure, this one's a treat ! Seemed rather too accurate for global comfort ....
25:19 sums up EU perfectly...its only growth that they need..only Growth🤑
- Imperial people obviously won't join other wars, but imperial labours too won't work extra hours to assist with needed military supply. EU is mercantilist...they had wars with fellow neighbours just to control Trade and Policy...They even formed NATO not for security but for stable govt that can work for trade🤑
But for the clueless lady, rest of the discussion and Samir's views are perfect and the offers the clear picture of Europe.
Amazing Indian Guy
Excellent, well done Samir Saran. Very logical and forth right.
This Indian guy is amazing
Good and easy to talk and promote BUT execution, implementation and delivering real tangible results are totally different and India IS NOT showing that it can do it and deliver the results except more talking about the future. Instead look first at your own policies, internal domestic issues, very poor infrastructures, technology, lack of right skills and education, too many tedious and red tapes and many more.
Asking countries like EU to go make a major bet for India and wait 10 years to see potential results that might not even be there while slowing down or stop the time for even 6 months to 1 year will totally destroy EU's economy. At the same time, China is NOT stopping nor slowing down BUT will instead accelerate even faster. If EU stop working closer with China then the rest of the world will step in and EU's economy and prospect will be gone by then. Time waits for no one especially more so in today's highly competitive business environment.
and China is moving at lightning speed waiting for no one.
@@JCSY1oh no the strategic expert is here . Go and join them on stage to make your points …lol
@@Ronnie1621 India should invest massively in wine production, they've more sour grapes than rest of the world combined.
@@Ronnie1621 😂😂😂
@@Ronnie1621he is just hardworking ccp bot..ignore him
Very impressive points put forward by Dr Samir Saran 👏
About one year ago a prominent media house in India made a video report on the defense infrastructure buildup along the India China border. They used a drone to film the videos. At one point you could clearly see the dji markings on the drone. ZPMC cranes which can be found in every major Indian port is another example.
We need to look beyond polished English for real substance.
Samir Sir, you are better than AI, too many facts, too much logic, impossible for anyone in this world to debate with you ✌🏻✌🏻✌🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻💐💐💐
I am supremo my position of head can't be challenged and I am ordering you that democracy is best and everyone must follow it
People watching it again 😊
Everyone wants an alternative to their Chinese made supplies but no one wants to pay the extra price, especially India. The manufacturing in China has undergone modernization, by investing in robotics, AI, as a result is very competitive. Anyone trying to replace them have to be at least at that level, if not better.
If we are talking about Europe's China addiction, you have to also talk about India's China addiction. India is making all the mistakes that US and Europe did with China, except they are doing it on a scale that is 10 times bigger AND they have a highly militarized border with China AND an airforce that has now depleted to half of what it needs to be AND supply issues such as delay in GE 404 engines. How would you explain India's import bill of Chinese goods? It is now 4 years since the Galwan crisis. How can India rationalize a defense budget of 70 billion against 130 billion of imports from China. Experts like Samir sound impressive because they have been trained in English language skills since they were kids but they have no substance to back themselves. That substance is infrastructure, roads, airports, railways, self sufficiency in critical sectors such as semiconductors.
I've always had a hard time understanding how shameless and integrity-less you have to be after looting another country's wealth to build your own country and then asking them why isn't your country developed.
@@peterseth3296 Stole lands from China? Which toad's poison have you been smoking mappet?
@@peterseth3296nice joke 😂 anything else 😂
@@peterseth3296 It was an Indian kingdom which fought against a Tibetan kingdom. The British won over the Indian kingdom and thus became successors. The Indian government was the successor from the British raj. China captured Tibet in 1950s and then started doing history book tricks.
Nevertheless, how about conduct a referendum in Tibet? I wonder if even the ethnic Han want to be part of CCP project. Arunachal Pradesh was left undeveloped for a long time since it was seen as a region the Chinese might capture any time. However, the people did not want to be part of temple, church breaking communists.
@@peterseth3296 when you say Tibet Arunachal Pradesh as a whole was never a part of the Tibetan kingdom, you could argue that only the Tawang district and some part of West Kameng district paid tax to the the lhasa sect. But you see both of those areas are maybe only 10% of Arunachal Pradesh. I belong to Tani tribe which is non Tibetan,non Buddhist (we follow either Donyi polo, Christian, Hinduism) . My ancestors have never paid any kind of tax or even know about Tibet, they used to only hear of trade with them for metals and ornaments or food maybe that too in very minor areas. The Tibetan tribes are minority in Arunachal Pradesh, plus the British took these areas when Tibet had declared independence from China. And it also begs the question in the 1962 war when China came to Tawang why didn't they keep it. Arunachal Pradesh was never a part of China and will never be I say this as a Arunachal Pradesh citizen..
@@peterseth3296 1. " Your family never told you Arunachal Pradesh was Southern region of Tibet " No because Arunachal was never a part of Tibet. You are confusing the region of Monpa Monyul kingdom which came under Tibet for the whole of Arunachal. Tawang is merely a district it is like 2% of the total area is the smallest district in Arunachal Pradesh. Majority of the Area were under the indigenous Tani, mishmi, indo Burmese who are not Tibetan or Buddhist.. so no Tawang is not the whole Arunachal Pradesh.
2. Tibet declared independence in 1912 so in the Shimla accord Tibet was not even a part of China to begin with. I get they(china) didn't agree then .
3. We are not of the Monpa descent, our closest kin is the Lhoba ethnic people .
4. Throughout history there has been a lot of invasion and migration, simply calling for a region it political boundary because of ancient history is unrealistic and provocative. Can Mongolia claim the Soth western China as as it's long lost province?
Samir ji is correct in saying that Europe continues it’s fascination to invest in China inspite of Chinese expansionism by way of building military bases all over the world, it’s threats in South China Sea, it’s technology game plans , it’s imposing will on on Hong Kong, Taiwan, it’s browbeating of Australia, US & lot more countries,
Samir is obsessively jealous of China and is begging for european investments.
Wtf PURE BULLSHIT @@roberts2697
"Chinese expansionism"?, with one military base in Djibouti as opposed to 800 US bases around the globe, keep coping !.
And what's india doing in kashmir killing Muslim and around india aswell ?
@@arshadmohammed1127chup kr k2a😂
Shashi tharoor got competition in English speed😂😂
So you are one of those who still think, speaking English fast equals good English?
The Indian wpm ( words per minute) rate for all native languages is way higher than the UK. US. Nz. Au or Canada wpm. Forget the accent or pronounciation, the moment the Indian ( verbal) rocket is heard in their ear's, they know you are a Indian. And you want more speed?
Bdw. Sashi T and S jayshanker speak slow, very slow, so that each word they say is heard and understood.
@@adhirbose9910 na re pagale na🥺🥺
HINDI HAI HUM HIND HAMARA WATAN🇮🇳🇮🇳 EKMKB
@@abjt_s shut up Hindi invader
she actually got spooked when he said there is no but.
Amazingly engrossing interview!! 👍🏼. Total respect for Samir Saran for his command on geopolitics and global economics!! *#applause*.
Great listening to Samir
This man is a genius, this is what Bharat offers to the world.
The anchor is unfortunately a complete misfit to this excellent elite panel....whereas the audience is in complete sync
Actually no. She is naive enough to ask important question which created such wonderful conversation.
Samir is unbelievable. He is knowledgeable and has an answer for every question.
European conservatism turning a blind eye to our growth, rise of large indian democracy is certainly good of global open & democratic societies & sustenance of world peace !
What an articulate speaker ! Samir saran ki Jai ho .
This is class! 🔥
Excellent Samir!! Thats the right way to represent India!!! Nice articulations fully backed by Data. Great!!!
welcome to india, an exuberant and futuristic nation.
where women get groped and kids get food posoining
20:05 samir is fire 🔥
10:49 "that's gonna be a big discussion table". The audacity with which she spoke these words shows her colonial mindset, because she definitely is not an ignorant. Look at the intentions in her eyes. Wtf.. Why can't there be a big discussion table?
10:50 "That would be a big table" what are you saying lady 😂😂😂
Samir ji is superb ❤️
What "global order" or "rules based international order" that the EU and US are upholding when these so called US created rules only serve their own benefits and advantages? Why condemned Putin for invading Ukraine, but not Netanyahu's genocides of Palestinians in Gaza. What hypocriscy!!!
you are right
she tried hard to control the narrative, but she wasn't successful.
Don't supply the Tanker engine but Germany wants free trade 😂😂😂
The lady should know, that because of inclination towards China, Germany stopped the supply of critical component to India 's Tanks.
20:04 Saran at his best 😂
Gave the Germans a taste of their own medicine.
Anchors in Germany feel the current order makes sense rather than new order.
Samir is GOAT ❣️
❤Sharan is brilliant. Sharan the killer.❤
Host missing the bus from both guests 😂😂😂
love you Samir .......hats off to your courageous to show them the real world.....with real problems....
Samir is promoting India, which in itself is a good thing. Critical thinking is an absolute
must when investing in India. The erratic Government regulations on Financial infringement
can cripple any company once FDI is concluded. Investing in India is digging your own grave.
Your chances are better if it's Vietnam, Indonesia Thailand, Malaysia or even Philippines. 🙏🙏
Open your eyes..oh sorry my bad coz u can't 😂
I love this blunt conversation, analysis and remark from Samir.
Indians are very good in … talking
All show and no go, Indias forever the unlit beacon of democracy.
Once a wise man said "Never underestimate Indians" !!
Yes- talking and Strategy
We are good at everything, son
We're very good at everything, your companies realised that decade ago and started moving it's vacancies to competent India while you were busy protesting for 1000 genders, 4 days working week 😂
Sarin is so so eloquent and specific love listening him
I am an Indian and I know that all these confidence comes from the fact that Europe and America needs us as a pawn to counter The Chinese growth
This confidence came from the election results of 2014 and 2019 but I think there should be no more such confidence after 2024 election results.
@@just_an_observer-k3r Half the country is full of bastards who will collaborate with anyone for short term gains
@@just_an_observer-k3r Hindutva mentality has done more harm than good to India. Nor is this ideology suitable for India nor does it aligns with Europe and global values of democracy and secularism.
@@dreamadventure8220 yeah right we deserve to be beggars and getting loans from richer nations
@@just_an_observer-k3r this was posted 3 weeks ago.
Very good panel and really great discussion showing today’s truth of the manipulated world.
Bro is jaishankar without any diplomatic bars
Unfiltered Jaishankar
@@royprotocol even better ☑️
Super Samit... well explained..
😂😂 gila kar ke mara hai bahi ne 😂
I am to see a similar talker like Jaishankar sir. Kudos to Samir.
Yes, just TALK ..... you people's specialty... ONLY TALK!
Ok , i'm an indian and let me be honest. What do we have that critical part for investors to invest in our country. Our country 's politicians are still in delusion that western companies are gonna help them bcuz they have good relationship with western nations. That's not how things work as far as i know. Why do companies come to india when we don't even have basic infrastructure and a proper management. We believe that "chaos is freedom". Every other day , new article publish about how severe is situation in India and it's people. Let's be honest , more than 80% people aren't even living peacefully in india. India's democracy is a total mess and private MNCs don't want this much headache to start their production here. Services are awful from their standards. European companies don't want to leave china bcuz they see profits there and still cheap and skillfull labour. It's been more than 2 decades for china to be a manufacturing hub and that means they have mastered this skill and now , know how things work ... I don't know why but feels like he's begging for investments. Govt of india has no accountability and didn't serve it's people rightly and still not able to unite india in true sense in name of diversity
其实我还是挺同情印度的,印度的政客和特权阶级从来没有真正关心过印度人民的生活和国家未来的前途,他们只是关心自己的自私的利益。以致于印度一直发展总是停滞不前。