How to build a Direct Drive steering wheel - OSW Simucube
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 พ.ค. 2024
- Are you looking to dip your toe into the sim racing world but dont want to pay top dollar for an over priced toy? You can actually build a hyper realistcc wheel base for the same amount of money people spend on 2nd tier equipment. In this video I show you how to build a direct drive steering wheel (OSW) using Simucube controller. This system is not for the faint hearted and you will need a rig strong enough to handle it. This system is not part of the logitech, thrustmaster or fanatec ecosystem but a custom build with the freedom to customize in any way you see fit.
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Price list is in AUD and including delivery
Mige motor 130ST-M10010 + BISS-C encoder and shielded cables = $420
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Simucube force feedback controller - $309.65
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Ioni Pro Motor Driver board - $326.05
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1000w CNC motor power supply - $146
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Emergency stop button - $5
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IEC320 C14 socket + cable - $12
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Cooler Master elite 110 mini case - $70
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Build cost = $1288 AUS
Boss kit and mige mount I custom made so cost is 0.
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No tinning of wires being held mechanically.
For terminal installs, like this, you would use crimp wire ferrules.
Really clean look too.
nice build. but you shouldn't tin wires that are going into screwed terminals, they work loose. Get yourself some bootlace ferrules
instablaster.
Came for the gearbox adapter video stayed for the wicked content keep up the good work dude
thank you helder very kind words!
I was caught off guard when this dudes room pops up on my phone. 😮
Great video man, quality is on peak. Was astounded when I saw how few subscribers you had! I liked and subbed and hope to see more videos from you :) Thanks
Thanks for the support david!
@@MODIFYUP Can i use nema23 stepper for the motor?
Well i havent built 1 yet but actually own 2 which my sons use and they are flawless ...... work like a dream great video THX
Thanks for watching Robert
i've just finished my first try to build force feedback steering wheels with arduino leonardo & sewing dc motors, it's feels satisfying to feel my first ffb wheels,
and looking up some direct drive actuall high level of diy sim in this field imo :o
Nice. Do you by any chance have a guide to build?
Really nice build! Is there much of an advantage to building one of these anymore now that the VRS wheel base is available for close to the same cost?
the person who disliked this is using a logitech wheel
Hahaha
Nah. I would agree with what he said. Logitech literally makes a wheel that claims to be "Driving Force by Logitech G takes the latest racing games to the highest level." Which I find completely bs
For 400 bucks this thing has many problems such as, faulty centering, faulty motors, bad FFB, Software crashing, and much more that I don't feel like explaining.
In all honesty, get the G920/G29 if you have no other option. I would personally recommend literally any thrustmaster wheel with the logitech shifter, you will need an adapter but the shifter is like the only good thing logitech has rn...
YOU ARE GOD! AMAZING BUILD AND VIDEO, THANKS! (yes, I'm screaming)
Hey mate, great video! Would you be able to link to some of the software setup tutorial videos you mentioned? I ended up using this video and your parts list to build my own small mige OSW so thanks a bunch for making things so easy!
Great Video! However, never solder mechanical joints. You can use a "boot lace" crimp on connector for the screw terminals. This is a safety concern that you definitely should fix.
THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO!!
Great Video on the build but I have a question. How did you wire the power button to your button box? It's the one thing I have not figured out yet it how to wire a power button to a sc1
you may call my logitech junk but i still have my og gran turismo wheel from the ps2 days.... and it still works just fine.... you may hate it but good ol logi hasn't let me down yet.....
same, got g27 like 7 years ago, this shit just doesnt die its awsome
Very good video, Instant subcribe
Hey, I'm wondering does hiccup overload protection mode equal to what mean well calls constant current limiting on their UHP-1000-48/PSPA-1000-48 power supplys? Is just the overload protection fine with that mode or should the over voltage protection also have that mode?
how did you turn your thrustmaster to fit with your DD wheel? does it also work with the sf1000 one?
the SIMCUBE CONTROLLER FORCE FEEDBACK IS MORE EXPENSE TO ONE FANATEC COMPLETE FOR 350 DLS
Hi, thxs for the time to show us, when you bought the motor from alibaba did it come with the encoder and cables for the motor or you have to order separate??
you need to specify that you want to purchase the shielded version of the cables as they do not come with the motor as there are multiple sets of cables depending on which encoder you specify.
That computer fan is 12v, you don't need any step down converter for a computer fan as they are all 12v, unless you use some obsure ram-cooling fan or laptop fan that runs on usb-power.
ALL regular case fans are 12v.
hey, i know this is a older video but PLEASE do NOT use solder as the "connector" for the screw in terminal blocks
over time, the solder will deform out of the way and thus increase resistance, then heat will follow, then boom you have a fire.
this is well known in the 3d printer/CNC community.
please instead use a crimped connector or BARE wire!
how does this compare to a pre-assembled FFB DD of any brand?
Hi,
Should I buy and install the BISS-C encoder separately or does it come with the Motor already installed?
and can I choose another motor or should I just use the "Mige motor 130ST-M10010" ?
thx
you can specify which encoder you want with the motor when you purchase it so it will come already installed. Just be sure to pull the cover off and confirm you were supplied the correct one. The small mige is a fantastic motor which will be enough for 90% of people. if you want something ridiculous go for the large mige.
I want to see someone put a DD wheel like this on a Playseat Challange or X-Rocker XR Circuit Racing folding rigs and see if they can stay upright as I could see them getting tossed about a fair bit with the forces, I have a X-Rocker XR Circuit Racing and the t300 even makes that whole rig shake lol
Any "recent" (made in the last 15 years) computer fan is 12V, not 5, also, no need to test around, pin 1 is ground, 2 is 12V, 3 is the tach signal and the fans with 4 pins, the 4th is the PWM signal to control RPM.
What if i use the inside of g920 and connect it to a big motor? I know the power of g920 is not enough but whag if we use a power multiplier?
love it.. i m not any type of engineer . but i want to build this. alos expensive more than Logitech G29.
g29 isnt direct drive. no wonder its gonna be more expensive
Considering you will pay probably close to 2500 to get a good dd wheel, it depends on if you can even truly take the time, and to want to do this, and come out with a dd wheel over a Logitech g29..yeah its more expensive than a g29.
@@Cypher3882 you can get a dd base for 350 euros lmao
@@BeardedPickIe yes .... but when you add all the necessary accessories you get big numbers
@@THESHADOW97139 yeah but not 2500, i mean you CAN spend that much, but you don't need to. you can get pedals, base and wheel for 700$ and easily build a handbrake and shifter, there are plenty of good tutorials on those too.
what size is that gold steering wheel spacer
Any advise what should I modify here to be able to run that custom stuff with ps5 console?
late reply but I used a GIMX adapter to run a old g27 wheel on ps4, maybe they've updated it to ps5, should be about $30 for the adapter and the software is free.
can you make a vid on your rig it looks like it’s made of aluminum tube rather than aluminum extrusion
Hey darcy you have very keen eyes! yes my rig is made out od 3mm thick alloy square tube which i tig welded and it is absolutely rock solid. I havent done a video on this as tig welding is very far outside of the sim racing spectrum. if this is of interest i can definately throw a video together. thanks for watching!
What would be aprox the price of building one of this pieces?
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great video mate, unfortunately it's too expensive to build. Can you make the cheaper version?
This is an OSW mate. Any cheaper and you’d want to look at a sim-plicity with 8nm or less.
Hey man this would be better than a VRS wouldn’t it being simucube controllable, I’m in Aus and not sure what way to go...
VRS directforce pro is almost identical hardware. I would imagine the vrs ffb would be comparable to the simucube ffb so you need to choose what better suits your situation and price bracket. The VRS is definitely a great option for the asking price.
@@MODIFYUP yeah from what I can see the simucube software is probably better than the VRS, dollar wise it’s probably cheaper to build my own. Got some thinking to do thanks for the reply man.
please construct one pedals usb for use to magnetics sensors please
Would not recommend keeping motherboard on metal surface as capacitors might be charged and short out some components
How much nm it can give?
Would it be possible to use the board from a logitech wheel for a controller
not to power a mige. the encoder is totally different not to mention the g29 uses a 65w power supply. the mige supply is 1000w thats a 1440% power increase. also the logitech is configured to run 2 tiny motors on a rack and pinion system.
@@MODIFYUPthanks for answering mate
Does this work for console or would you need a different board?
yes have seen this setup on console (PS4) using something like drive hub or true drive. totally game dependant though. alot of the arcadey games wont support something this awesome
@@MODIFYUP alright thank you I was wondering if it would work on any type of console
owuld you build these ?
$64 Q - price of this DIY MIGE DD?
If you can make your own motor mount and shaft mount total should be around $1280 aus. There is a lot of shipping cost and our exchange rate is quite poor at the moment.
где продаются управляющие платы симукуб?
Oof i can't really order all the parts so i think ill stick with my logitech momo for a bit :P. I really like that wheel but it's 180 degrees, and i really need that 900 degrees.
What?
@@kinangeagle133 The comment is about me complaining about my current steering wheel and my shitty country where simucube doesn't ship
works with PS4?
Great video too bad I found it after I bought a direct drive wheel base lol
I'm debating between building an OSW vs buying VRS Direct Force Pro....tough choice
aren they the same thing realy? (forgive my ignorance if its not)
@@Nikolas4g63 the VRS is prebuilt versus the OSW doing it yourself
@@Nuke-China aa yea true. When I calculated costs they come at the same cost (including shipping to me) with the difference that they will run on a different software. But the main servo is the same. But also there is the added cost of “time” when building the diy osw.
Nice video sometimes you move to fast and it’s hard to see what’s going on. Not complaining but you have only saved what £100/£200 and had the hassle of building it
Thanks for watching. If building something is a "hassle" for you then this is not the direction for you. many people such as myself find the build process just as enjoyable as using the thing. anyone can throw money around and buy what they want but building something with your own 2 hands is a totally different story.
@@MODIFYUP I would much rather build then buy but my point is you aren't really saving that much and if there's not much of a saving you mite as well buy and have all the warranty and piece of mind. For me I could build it with no problem it's the computer software that confuses me I can't get my head around it its just easier for me to have plug and play with all the software there. Still it was a great video and I enjoyed watching it
dude are you the tiktok guy with the floating shoe?
Hmm...nice work! Can you play Forza 7 with it??
Hi thanks for watching. I believe you can get this working with emuwheel or gimx. Forza does not natively support granite devices or direct input ffb but using emulators you can achieve a pretty decent result from what i can see.
@@MODIFYUP Hmm...should I rather use the Clubsport V2.5? This should be working natively with all Forzas I think.
Would this work on Xbox
Hi charlie without looking into it too much, doesnt look like there is native support for simucube althought using something like gimx or drivehub might yield some good results. good luck
@@MODIFYUP thanks for the feedback:)
@@charliehartmtb819 more like forced feedback pun intended
1000$ in that cost u can buy VRS wheel?
And VRS is cost around 900euro
Think the internals of this being simucube puts it ahead though...
Seems semucube have stopped selling there boards for DIY builders... :(
Браво, вот он как оригинал должен был выглядеть, но жаль китаец переплюнул....
Спасибо за просмотр!
I think i would like to have my thumbs renched right out of my hands. Just decided.
I cant afford this, I want it, but I cant afford it, so I think Ill just modify my driving force pro gt.
Great content, awful music. Thanks for sharing!
Goodness me. Yellow for phase, black for earth? Only color-coding your heatshrink? There are countries in which that would land you in prison.
Pause .... fanboy csl 🤭
its cheaper to buy a simcube sport 2 vs this which would be like making a original simcube
no
Just drive in real life...
I do plenty of track work if you look at my other videos. A lot more than you do by the look of your channel (can hardly call a drag strip "driving". Maybe best to do your research before looking like a fool.
@@MODIFYUP I was kidding m8
@@MODIFYUP I have looked at ur channel and like ur content was just pulling ur left nut