2016 Honda Civic transmission fluid change
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- How to service Honda Civic transmission on a 2016 honda civic 2.0l automatic with the CVT transmission.
This is also good for 2016-2020 models.
these transmissions are considered "sealed" and do not have dipsticks to check level. There is a filter but I do not show replacing it as honda does not replace it themselves. thus leaving you vulnerable to voiding your warranty. If you follow these easy steps to perform maintenance on your transmission then you wont have issues with your filter. I hope this video helps all you DIY'ers out there. The video is actually only 18 min long, the last 5 min or so is just me talking about why servicing it is important.
One of the best-explained CVT fluid changes I’ve viewed thus far. Good job 👍
L P thank you for the kind words! I really appreciate it and thanks for watching! I hope I earned your subscription! 😃
Honda makes better CVTs than Nissan.
@@Djevan41598 North Korea too🤣
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He should have changed the filter as well for a complete service.
There is a filter for the CVTs. There’s one located inside the CVT fluid pan (Part #25420-5LJ-003) and another under the air box assembly that you remove to access it. This filter is a paper filter (Part #25450-P4V-013) that I change with every CVT fluid change since it’s responsible for catching the fine to medium particles in the transmission. It’s a simple change too. All you have to do is remove three bolts to remove the housing and the filter is located inside. Recommend replacing at least that filter to maximize transmission longevity. Wouldn’t recommend replacing the oil pan filter often since it’s responsible for filter the big chunks of metal and as long as you’re good with servicing the fluids this shouldn’t be an issue. Hope this helps anyone! 🤙🏽
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excellent advice.
Yeah, thanks bro. This guy made a great video, but might as well change the paper filter while the thing is torn apart & dripping everywhere.
I also put a K&N filter in my air box. I think it noticeably improves throttle response, especially when aggressively passing someone on the highway. I love how you get all the torque down low between 2500-4000 rpm. This CVT is underrated. It makes it a very satisfying commuter car
SDAlexander yeah a lot of people trash talk K&n but I love em and have never had any issues. I run them in all my cars and trucks. But I try to get them used as I think the retail price doesn’t outweigh the benefits. I didn’t notice much power difference but my last tank I almost had 40mpg at the end of my tank. I’ve def noticed mpg gain with grandma style driving. Lol.
I’m not there yet with the brake fluid but I might do a video for it. It’s all the same across different cars but at your mileage it would be a good idea to do it to increase the longevity of your caliper boots and master cylinder. Other than that old brake fluid won’t hurt. It should for sure be done by 100k miles tho. Also since your car is highway miles it isn’t anything to worry about. City driving would be a dif story.
The only way to tell is to put the car on a Dyno and if you did you would find it doesn’t make any power that you would feel. You would be better served with a regular filter that will keep your maf sensor cleaner giving you less problems down the road.
Good information 👍👍👍
Totally agree with your viewpoint on Honda transmissions! I had one changed on my Odyssey for around $5000. I learned my lesson and now change the trans fluid every 14k miles on all my Hondas with Honda fluid.
Nathaniel D. Thanks! I appreciate your feedback and thanks for listening to my rant at the end! I didn’t think anyone would. Haha. Yes the odyssey’s are also notorious for transmission failure.
Totally true comment.
A) On my 10th Gen Civic change engine oil & filter NLT 4K mi ... because oil smells like (a lot) of gasoline (Dilution issue is famous) and Tranny fluid every 25k (if only to clean the metal off the drain plug)..
B) Just go buy a (long) transmission funnel. Like 18 inch long, then you don’t have to remove all that air box and battery brackets etc
C) If you are not going to torque drain plug q Torque wrench (36 ftlb ), you defeat the (Aluminum) “crush” washer design (Great input to get Harbor Ft $30 Torque wrench)
D) Only use HCF-2 (Dudes telling you otherwise 1) are ANSOIL distributors, 2) Never tell you about problems later
E) The Honda Dealerships typically don’t even use the atf fill plug verification. They just jam the 4 qts HCF-2 in.
Just saved $120.. vs $185 Dealership (Cerritos, CA) on ATF fluid chg
Great summary..,Just chg your fluids (way sooner and more often) and watch your car get to 160,000
@@jmac838 nice point sometimes we gotta keep in mind some techs cut corners by either not putting enough fluid and what not. Like my civic si takes about 3.7 quarts alot of techs would just put the full 4 qts 🤦🏽♂️
What happens or happened if it was over filled ?
Overfilling can cause damage to internals and seals. Causing leaks or pre mature failure.
Great tutorial! Dealership keeps sending me emails to try to get me to change my CVT Transmission Fluid on my 2019, which is a total scam since it has less than 5K miles. Looked at the maintenance schedule in the owner's manual and it shows like 25K miles at the lowest if you live in a smoggy, mountainous area, and drive at low speeds frequently. The maintenance guide of the owner's manual says to bring it to the dealership with: "Do not attempt to check or change continuous variable transmission fluid yourself". I've worked on my own cars and figured that was bogus. Turns out it is. Thanks for putting this video together!
No problem! Thanks for the comment I appreciate it. And yes you’re correct, they say not to attempt it because technically you can’t check the fluid level with a dipstick.
Thank you. I had a oil leak and it turned out that transmission plug had worked itself out and I had a leak. I couldn't find a repair manual so I took to TH-cam and found your video. Thank you, you helped confirm my diagnosis and showed exactly how to change the fluid and identified all of the components.
Wow glad I could help! That’s very weird you had that issue though? Was there work previously done on the car? There’s no reason that should be loose and leaking.
Quick tip for people looking to do this: Take the fill plug off AFTER you take the drain bolt off. I had the fill plug off when I took the drain bolt off and the fluid came out horizontally and went all over my driveway before I could move my pan in time.
Log happens to the best of us! Glad you were able to service your civic. 👍🏻 thank you.
Changed the CVT fluid at 50, 000 km. The fluid was very clean, and no metal dust on magnetic drain plug, seems like Honda's CVT was properly engineered. would recommend doing the fluid change based on the service indicator on the dash.
I agree! Thanks for watching and commenting!
Thanks for the video, I just changed my transmission fluid today, for those interested the car requested the fluid change at somewhere around 50,000 miles and I changed it at 51,xxx miles because that was when it was due for an oil change as well.
Also the crush washers for the drain and check bolts are different sizes on my car. The check bolt washer is a 20mm ID x 28 mm OD aluminum washer. The drain bolt crush washer is a 18mm ID x 26 mm OD aluminum washer.
I did not have a new check bolt crush washer and couldn't get one in a reasonable time frame so I wet sanded the crush washer on a flat surface using 220 grit sandpaper and continued sanding with progressively finer sandpaper stopping at 600 grit. I got this idea from a knowledgeable sounding fella on TH-cam. You can look up the video by searching "how to reuse a crush washer". I know that's not ideal but nothing is ideal in a pinch. It doesn't leak anyways.
I hope this helps some people out!
Thanks for the helpful tip for the viewers.! its always best to replace them but we dont always have that access when in a bind so its ok to reuse them once or twice.
I usually plan a job out before I start so I know I have everything I need. I’m not on a budget so I can afford a .47 cent washer. My Honda is different, my owners manual calls for CVT fluid change at 25,000 miles.
I saw you, Danny A, removed the check bolt and it looks quite big. I think I can use a hose to insert into the check hole and on the upper end I use the funnel to fill in the fluid. That makes the job more easier for us. Next time to change my transmission fluid for my 2016 Civic, I use this method. Thanks for showing us the Video.
Truc Tran thank you for watching and taking the time to comment. I really appreciate it. I suppose that is one way to fill it, I think it will be more work trying to get a hose and funnel into the hole but I am not against making things easier! Lol. Also for the purposes of the video I like to make sure I am following Honda’s service protocol and not cutting corners so the viewers get the correct information. 👌🏼
@@HandsOnDismantler you can use a 12v pump to make it easier.
You should change the external transmission filter too. Located forward of the fill plug inside that silver cap/cover. Also, replace both "O" rings inside of the transmission filter cover plate, since you did all that work to removes the air box.
ScottyMixWell hey! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment, I appreciate it. Per Honda this transmission does NOT have a serviceable transmission filter and a transmission “service” (drain and refill) never requires removing the transmission oil pan and Honda does not recommend to do this.
@@HandsOnDismantler You don't drop the pan to change to filter. It's on the side.
I opened my checkbolt and kept it level. Mine was overfilled. Glad I seen this video
A slow drip out of it doesn’t mean it was over filled. If it came gushing out then i would say yea it was overfilled. 👍🏼
Thanks for all the tips and tricks to do a complete fluid change. Video clarity was excellent too!
Thank you for the nice comment! Glad the video helped!
Thanks to this video I successfully serviced my 2016 Honda Civic#Doityourself
Alex Sanchez Awesome man! That’s the whole goal here. Really glad to hear. If you haven’t already hit the like and subscribe to help me out! Thanks again!
I'm gonna attempt it myself after seeing this video. Do you know mileage intervals for cooling system maint.? & should i drain and fill or flush? Thanks!
For Honda CVT tranmission it is not recommend to flush. Just drain & fill.
You just did a drain and fill so you didn’t get ALL of the old fluid out. Plus, some drained back out. Drain and fills never really get 100% of the fluid out. Nice detailed video though. Good honest correct information. Never use any other transmission fluid in a Honda/Acura other than the OEM fluid. There is a filter inside the transmission fluid pan. Two bolts hold it on. Cheap and easy to do. You don’t need it yet though with your mileage.
Tom Dolgin thanks for the feedback and watching! I really appreciate it. you are correct. This is only a drain and refill which is what a (text book service) consist of. A transmission service (flush) would get all the fluid out which is costly and not something the average diy Er can do themselves. That’s why it’s important to start (servicing) at early mileage. This way it stays clean and doesn’t need a flush. Something the diyer can do themselves and manage for the life of the car. Also the filter is not available for purchase from the dealer as it is not technically serviceable. 👍🏻
Ive been told by honda techs and others that a flush can also dislodge metal flakes and they can settle in places that can literally destroy the transmission is this true?
That's EXACTLY right about it to a mechanic! Don't trust em. Well said brother 👏
Thank you!
Thanks, I do my own maintenance too and I was unsure of how to check how much fluid is in the transmission. This is the only video that I’ve seen that explains how to remove the level check bolt to be sure of the level. Thanks again.
Thanks! Yes unfortunately %90 of people want quick answers and always want to know how to cut corners. I’m not one of them. I believe if you’re gunna do the work then do it right!
Great video, I just changed mine out. Instructions were spot on. Thanks again.
Reed McGinn thanks for your feedback! I’m really glad this helped you! Let me know if you need help with anything els!
Wow thanks for posting this video! My son has a 2018 civic and I was just wondering how to replace trans fluid so we can start doing it n our own, it’s getting to the point where the cost for service at the dealership has sky rocketed that doing most of the service ourselves will be more financially beneficial!
Heck yeah that’s awesome! Did it go smoothly?
Thank you for the video. There are many tutorial videos but you are the one of the two videos I found that actually involved check bolt. Great job on that.
Actually the other video also show how to change the transmission filter. Just FYI, maybe you wanna check that video by The Nomad Mechanic. I'm not affiliated whatsoever with him but I just really like your tutorial that I want to share this information. If you don't like the fact that I mentioned other channel, please just delete my comment.
You're very welcome! and yes Ive chatted with him and he has a great tutorial on that. although honda doesn't recommend changing this filter, any alteration to that part or damage caused by the "diy" person could void your warranty by messing with it so at this time i dont recommend doing it. but yes you can.
@@HandsOnDismantler thanks for replying. Mine is at 120k miles. It's out of warranty. If you were me, would you replace the filter? Or do you think the filter doesn't really need to be replaced for the life of the car? I just want to know what's your thoughts on this.
Mateus Edwin oh ok. If you’ve never serviced the transmission before then I would change the filter. But if you’ve been servicing the transmission since new then I wouldn’t.
@@HandsOnDismantler Thank you👍. Keep up the great work.
Great video, thank you! I was waiting for a good video before I tackled this on mine. Liked and subscribed.
Reed McGinn , Thank you for the kind words and support! Means a lot and I’m glad I could help!
Drain plug torque 36 ft lb (10:20)
Drain plug socket size 3/8
HCF-2 3.7 qrts (14:45)
Same drain torque for check bolt (from comment)
Same engine oil crush washer for trans drain plug and check bolt ( comment)
nice looking out!
@@HandsOnDismantler one more note that it seems washers for engine oil and trans drain plug sizes are different
Love the details others have missed. The fill check is nice.
Thank you! I never understand why people skip the details. That’s the whole point of these videos 👍🏼
The key to a honda transmissions longevity is not the oil it the temperatures they’ve always had a history of running really hot a good way to make them last is add a additional cooler
Well yeah. The key to any transmission is keeping it cool and not overheating the oil. But with Honda a lot of them had non serviceable transmission filters, the filters would gunk up over time, clog and restrict flow. Causing failures. That’s what I was referencing in the video. 👍🏼
Perfect, thanks for the detailed instruction.
Mehrdad S. Roghani Thank you for the kind words! Glad it helped!
Thank you so much the dealer was charging me a arm and a leg for the service
You’re welcome! Glad it helped you.
How much does the dealer chargev
@@JosueCaamal5 in my area. It goes for about $200. But you’d never know if they actually did it or not. :)
@@HandsOnDismantler That's what i'm afraid of, what would be the best recommended brand tramission fluid for my car?
@@JosueCaamal5 I showed it in the video. Only use Honda OEM transmission fluid. Despite what other people say. They won’t be giving you money to replace your transmission down the road.
Hey, Danny! This is a great video, I will probably be using this as a guide to change my ATF by myself for the first time.
My question is, what tools should I have at the ready? Obviously some screwdrivers, maybe long nose pliers? Please advise, thanks! :)
Nick Moran hey! Thanks for watching, I really appreciate it and I hope this helps you complete the job efficiently. If I remember correctly just simple tools like 10mm sockets and a standard wrench. Maybe a flat head screw driver to remove the plastic clips(careful not to break them). I’d recommend getting a harbor freight (Cheap) torque wrench 3/8’s should work great for the drain plug. If 3/8’s is too small then it is 1/2 inch. The check bolt is 17mm socket, and I believe that’s all you need. I hope this helps! If it does please help me out with a like and subscribe! Thanks.
To avoid removing the air box you can buy a double funnel pump. Definitely makes it easier
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What’s the link for that?
I'm starting to do everything myself now. Mechanics charge me up the ass for my LX model. I now know how to change the oil and the filter, and reset the oil life. If you can please let me know what else I can do myself that would be tremendous help. Saves money and I would atleast be a mechanic for my car lol
Thats great to hear! theres lots you can do! brakes are easy to learn as well as tire rotations, that may sound funny to most people but there are lots of people who still pay a shop to rotate their tires. Air filters, cabin air filters! spark plugs once you reach the mileage!
I can change tires, change the oil, cabin filter, engine filter. I'm not to familar with the term "rotating"
Awesome! So with EVERY oil change you should be "rotating" the tires. you do this by moving the front tires to the rear and the rear tires to the front. this helps them wear evenly and extend the tread life. A quick google search of how to rotate the tires will give you thousands of results. tire rotation is the same for any passanger car.
Aahh ok! My new tires are on the front and old ones on the back. So I'll for sure do that after I change the oil and install the oil filter as well. What are some things i need to check up on the daily basis to keep my car run a good life?
RhysSky daily, just tire pressure. Other than that not much. But weekly you should check the oil level, brake fluid level, coolant level. And inspect the engine bay for visual oil leaks. 👍🏻
Great video. All ready to change my cvt fluid. Big help!
itsjojo4 awesome! Thank you for the feedback! Let me know if you have any questions!
Thanks to this video, i was able to do my transmission oil today. It was a success but i had some minor hipcups. When i was all done and started my car, i started getting multiple warning signs , like power steering is failure, brake, downhill, cant remember the rest but im guessing is when i un plug the sensor from the air intake box. After like 10 to 15 min it fix itsself.
That’s extremely weird. Did you start the car before connecting your air intake sensor?
Danny A. yes i did and i think thats what happen but thank you for this video, its very helpful. Please make more video sir. Your the man.😎
Ok, starting the car without the sensor plugged in will def give you a check engine light. It’s very weird that it gave you all those other lights. That shouldn’t have happened. But I am glad it all worked it’s self out. With these newer cars any little electrical thing can throw everything off so anytime you’re doing maintenance, once something is disconnected it must be re connected before starting the car. I’m glad this helped you otherwise!
Same thing happened to me, I didn't connect the sensor when I went to gears.
Your edits are awesome man. Great video 👍👍🤘🤘💙💙
🤟🏼thanks!
Job well done! Great video my man.
Thanks for the comment! and watching! i appreciate it
My 2018 Civic EXT with the 1.5 liter turbo, GDI, CVT. I change the transmission fluid every 35k miles.
I currently have 122,600 trouble free miles. Hoping to get at least 300k miles without repairing the engine, turbo,or transmission. 🙏
That’s awesome! They’re really good cars when you maintain them! Keep up the good work!
The trans fluid filter is where the oil cooler is and it CAN be ordered at the dealer. If they can find it, get the part # off the internet and give it to them. Or order a Wix from Rock Auto.
Can I get a gold ticket to the factory?????
A great service, very well done, One comment, you can use what brand name you like, however it has to meet or exceed the Honda spec. HCF-2 and say so right on the bottle There are some great CVT fluids on the market, But you need to buy one with the Honda spec. HCF-2 More than likely for half the Price
Thank you! And yes I only recommend the oem fluid for transmission service.
6:37 you can fill up thru check hole and you save a yourself a hasle from removing the air filter.I used clear hose like for aquarium but thicker.But you are right my is Honda HRV so air box is not in the way like civic
True that! Thanks for the comment! Glad you got to complete it
Going to try this this weekend! Question! You let the fluid come out of the check bolt and let it flow until it just dribbles...By doing that and fluid draining out, wouldn't that hinder the amount of fluid you're putting in and be the incorrect amount? What would be the difference between just adding the 3.7 liters from the get go?
Great question! It does and that’s why it’s critical to use the check bolt instead of just putting fluid in. Everyone will have a different amount come out so not everyone will fill exactly 3.7 quarts. The amount of fluid that comes out will differ based on level of the vehicle and temperature.
@@HandsOnDismantler YOu're the best , man! Can't wait to give it a try!
@@HandsOnDismantler but maybe its because the oil isnt fully flushed out? i would think using a machine to suck out all the oil would be a complete flush rather than drain it by gravity on a leveled surface and not 100% sure the oil is completely out.
@@danyo5509 correct this “service” is not a “flush” you never want to flush transmission fluid. And when maintenanced properly a “flush” is never required. The amount of fluid coming out of the drain bolt is only what’s in the transmission pan and ONLY what’s being serviced. Flushing the fluid is a completely different procedure. 👍🏼
I greatly appreciate this video. Exactly what I was hoping to find. It gave me the courage to make me think I can do it! Ha! So imma give it a go! Where can I find intervals on when to service radiator (drain and fill)? I don't want to rely on "maintenance minder" feature. And should cooling system be flushed? I can't find anything in the manual, forums or by contacting the dealer. Thanks for the vid! 👍😊
B Dizzle thanks for the kind words! Honestly the only thing I recommend not following the maintenance reminder by is the transmission. Because of how delicate they are. Everything els can be followed by the regular interval, and the cooling system doesn’t have to be flushed. If you follow the interval a quick drain and refill is great.
@@HandsOnDismantler ok cool. Thanks! I have this car (2017 Civic LX sedan) and love it so far! So this CVT fluid should be drained & filled every 30,000 miles? Thank you
Honda is weird with filters. Your car has one, but they don't call for changing it under normal use. Your filter is in the cooling housing, just above the fill plug. I had a Fit which also has a filter, yet some people will tell you that it does not. I've had a few Subarus that also had filters that people don't know about. I change my CVT fluid once a year. It's overkill but that way I never have to worry about when I did it last. Also, you should run the car until warm and move the shifter through all the gears before checking the level.
Yeah I was made aware of the filter by another TH-camr that did a video. I asked the dealer a million times and they always denied it. Stupid. But that’s what we have TH-cam for!
Do a flush and get all contaminated oil out. Just did mine. Cost more but worth it for sure. Humble opinion 😌.
The new oil would just be contaminated from the old residual oil left over from the contaminated oil that wasn’t flushed out? But why is the oil contaminated in the first place?🤔🤔🤔🤔 trans fluid should be clean if you’re doing maintenance.
Excellent instructional video...I'm curious why you didn't also change the cvt transmission filter (3 verticle bolts) that's right in the front of the fill hole?
Could that have possibly been the other 1/4 to 1/2 qt to equal the 3.7 qt fill ratio ?
Thanks for reaching out and commenting. Its not part of the service plan by Honda, nor will the dealership do it for you even if you pay them. if you keep up on the maintenance, replacing the filter wont be necessary. changing the filter could possibly void your warranty if they find out and something happens to the transmission. My purpose of the video was to educate civic owners on the Honda service steps.
@@HandsOnDismantler like you said in your video only change it when the filter clogs up.
You have to tell Honda you want the filter changed as well with the fluid. Honda sells the new filter for $8.99 and it’s easy to change while you’re doing a fluid change so why not do a complete service.
@@chodkowski01 he said that even the dealership doesn't do that. They only change the fluid and they don't stock the filter.
@@echowhiskey2411
Yes, the dealer doesn't allow filters to be replaced, they won't do something that will void warranty.
I did request the 'warmer filter', that what Honda call it, they say no.
Hi danny nice vídeo but I have a question I have a Honda Civic 1.5 touring can I do it like that too and why u didn’t change the transmission filter ?
Kevin Quito the 1.5l May require a different amount of fluid than the 2.0l I am not %100 sure. As far as refilling and draining, it is the same but the 1.5l I believe have a different intake air box so the process to access the fill plug would be different. Thank you for watching and supporting the channel, I really appreciate it.
Also the transmission filter is built into the transmission and is not serviceable. Which is why I recommend doing this kind of service more often than Honda recommends.
The best video i ever seen. Thank men you did a good job.. tumbs up 😁
Honda Mods thanks! I really appreciate the feedback! My channel is new so if you could I’d appreciate a like and subscribe if you havnt already! Thanks again!
220000 miles 2016 civic 1.5t regular maintenance and no issues with my transmission... no need to service early.
wow thats awesome you had that kind of luck with it! I hope we all have the same kind of luck with our hondas as did you.
Loved the honesty and hard work. Would love to see more service videos. And will subscribe to your channel as well. Hope you make a service video on a 2019 civic touring.
Thank you! Is your civic the 2.0? Or 1.5 turbo? I’ll be doing videos soon on spark plugs and coolant service. 👍🏼
@@HandsOnDismantler mine is a 1.5 Turbo brother
@@rahulrsaha ok! I kinda wish I woulda have gotten that one 😏 but I got such a steal on my 2.0 I had to jump on it. The videos should still greatly help you out but the 2.0 and 1.5 have differences. Just keep that in mind 👍🏼 I’ll make sure to try and point out the differences while editing.
@@HandsOnDismantler it is a 1.5 turbo and i know it all changes when its a 1.5 litre turbo.. so hope you make one video on how to do maintenance. I also wanna learn about cars and your videos have been quite helpful
you explained very perfectly. it's very helpful video. love from pakistan ❤😊
Hello from the USA!! Thank you for your loving comment. 🙏
Nice work Danny.
Nathaniel D. Thank you for your feedback! Means a lot! I hope this video helped you. Yes it can be a pain because of all the plastic under the car, next time I work on one I’ll do a video for the jack points.
Thank you for this! Just did mine today.
you're welcome! hope it was easy peazy for you! thanks for taking the time to comment.
Technically there are serviceable filters, one is behind the CVT fluid warmer, and a strainer/filter located in the pan. Not replacing them is probably totally safe, I only replaced mine because I’m at 104k of mostly city driving and hard accelerations.
Per honda that is not a filter that is sold, or serviced. I tried. where did you buy the filter from? and mind sharing the part number to help others?
I’d hate to spread misinformation with part numbers. Also the filters are available only on the aftermarket from what I’ve found, so quality is questionable which may turn off most people. And like you said they don’t need servicing anyways, which it totally true.
Honda Part No.: 25450-P4V-013 - CVT filter, behind the CVT fluid warmer
It's universal filter for all cvt paired to 1.5l L15B7 engine - Civic, CR-V, accord, etc.
Anzin1984 thanks, this DOES NOT apply to the 2016 Honda Civic with a 2.0l engine used in the video. A quick google search will show that. Per Honda, this civic does not have a serviceable transmission filter. Thank you for sharing this with us though. Also the filter you shared is located inside of the transmission which is not easily accessible by many diy”ers. I appreciate you taking the time to share your findings though and hope you found this video helpful on performing the service!
Very informative video. I'm wondering if that is"too often tho". 45-60k to replace the fluid should new enough I imagined. What does the service manual calls for?
DDias86 thanks for the feedback! I really appreciate it. Well the service manual says it’s good for 100k miles but again, that’s what they said about their previous model accords and civics and now people are finding that they aren’t “lasting”. So I’d rather do the maintenance my self and keep that fluid clean. Almost 90% of the time I stay true to manufacture maintenance intervals but there are some things I take into my own hands. Remember, that transmission oil may last 100k miles like Honda wants it to but by then your warranty will be over and if the transmission starts giving you problems like early 2000 models did then you’re the one paying for it. Maintenance is key to longevity. 👍
@@HandsOnDismantler yeah absolutely. Understand why doing early. I was curious to know what the manufacturer recommended. I also watch ScottyKilmer videos and he talks about doing fluids more often than recommended and not trusting the auto tranny from Honda. I got my car used not looking ago and did my first oil change ohv it. It now has 63k. And since I don't know if or when the tranny was changed I'll try to watch your video again to change mine. Thank you again, great video!
DDias86 nice! They’re good cars! Honda recommends to change it at 100k miles.
DDias86 I agree. 30,000 miles is excessive, especially since that’s once a year for me. I’ve never changed transmission fluid in any of my vehicles, and I have never had transmission problems. I have a CRV now. I don’t see anything listed in the manual as I’ve looked. It just says to take to dealer and change “if necessary.”
I’ve changed my cvt fluid in my 2017 civic twice already and it’s only at 28,000 miles on the car
Thanks for sharing! This video is really helpful for me.
You’re welcome! Thank you for taking the time to watch
When should I change the fluid for the first time and how often afterwards? Any recommended mileage?
It's usually between 30K to 60K miles. It depends how heavy you drive as well.
what christian said, sorry I am just now seeing your comment. 50k miles is a good start to get ahead on maintenance. But it depends on your driving habits and where you live. (dirt or no dirt)
im at 80k and still havent changed it, doesnt seem bad. ive also heard someone who was at 175k lol. so it seems to last pretty long without it. ill be changing it soon tho since its already high.
Wow, I own this car as well as a 2012 Camry. The tranny fluid change is 10x harder on the Camry. So much so I don't want to do it myself. But for my Civic, yeah I will easily do this myself.
haha yea they try to make it look tough but its not too difficult. thats why youll start seeing alot more engine covers and "plastic" on the newer cars. its just to scare people into bringing it into the dealership.
my 2016 civic has 170,000 miles lol. Never had a problem. iv changed my TF twice. will do it soon again.
Is it expensive to maintain?
FashionOutLook never had a problem, I just change my TF and break fluid every 50 thousand miles. Cost $200 for both at the dealer.
Thats awesome!
My 2017 civic EX has 190K km on it, bought it with 30K km on it. About to do my first CVT oil change.
1. On a manual I found it says to run the car till operating temperature and then start to drain/fill the oil. Is this necessary does the oil amount/thickness change with temperature?
2. Can I just add the same amount of CVT oil back in which drained out? Without having to go through the check bolt procedure?
3. Read if a car has gone long without a CVT oil change that a full flush is not recommended as it can damange the transnission by removeing the sludge, is this true? If so a oil change would be enough?
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Getting it to operating temps ensures the correct amount of fluid is in the trans pan during service.
No, you’ll need to use the check bolt to make sure you have the correct level.
With proper maintenance a FLUSH is never needed. And if you wait too long a flush can harm it more than help
Nice video. I clean my drain pan, carefully pour what I drained into a clean empty graduated 5 qt oil jug, then replace exactly what I drained.
what ever works best for the DIY'er. I personally dont like pulling the pan off anything unless you have to because thats just added cost of the oil pan gasket replacement and that also leaves room for more leaks to happen.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR VIDEO IT IS VERY INSTRUCTIVE. I LOVE IT
Hey thank you for the nice comment! I’m glad it helped!
Thanks man, very detailed video.
Glad it was helpful! Thank you for the comment!
Closed the check bolt and just put 3.7 when honda services it they just drop 4, mine calls for 2.3 quarts and dealer put 3
Jose Vazquez yes, there the two engines have different specs and yes the vehicle needs to be on a flat surface to get most of the pan fluid out.
Great video. So now that you know it takes 3-1/4 quarts, do you think next time you will leave the check bolt installed and just put in 3-1/4 quarts?
no, because overfilling or under filling the transmission can cause damage. so its always best and safe to remove the check bolt and make sure its properly filled.
Always make sure the car is level, that's a must and I think that may have been a problem, Only you know that....
I have yet to do this but I am willing to bet going through the fill plug wouldn't be that bad with a pump and some tubing from home depot. I have a mazda cx9 and I do it that way when changing the fluid in my ptu unit...just one less thing to break if you can do it that way.
It’s possible. It just won’t be fun. And I wouldn’t post videos on how to cut corners and do weird things. Especially when it comes to the drive train. Lol
Great video! Do you happen to know the part numbers or mm sizes for the crush washers for both bolts?
Zachary Yates thanks Zach! I appreciate it. I don’t have it handy at the moment but when I get my dealer invoice I’ll check it for part #. Most dealerships will always offer you the appropriate crush washer when purchasing the fluid but if not you could also just ask for the crush washer and they’ll know exactly what it is.
Have you ever decided to change the CVT transmission filter? It is inside the warmer assembly. A few bolts, it's near the top of the transmission in the engine bay, under the airbox.
Not yet. My civic is still under warranty. Changing the filter might void your warranty since it’s not a serviceable item according to Honda.
Can you make a video on how to jack up the front and rear of the civic to get the whole car on jack stands?
This x2. I struggled in back having room for the jack and also the jack stand. I found a good jacking point in front right by the tow hooks.
I try my best to stick to videos that plenty of people haven't already done. But its not too difficult, it also helps to purchase the jack adapters for the sides.
Yup! thats a good spot!
Thanks for this very helpful
Glad it was helpful!
another way to check how much to put in is use a mesuring cup dollar store and mesure what you take out and put the same amount back in
That’s one way! Much harder because if you’re wrong then you’d be doing it the right way after anyways. Still hoped it helped you. Thanks
Done! Thanks for the terrific video again. Made me sort of feel like a man 😂
I assume 'check engine' light will eventually go off?
B Dizzle hey sorry I didn’t get back in time. I’ve been working overtime. Is your light on? It shouldn’t be. Unless you started the car before connecting the harness on your air intake box.
@@HandsOnDismantler it's cool. But thanks! You've been very helpful. I realize you can't be my 24 hour mechanics advisor HAHA but i wish! Fluid level was fine. After i got home from dealer and pulled check bolt, it bubbled out pretty good. I'm getting good at that airbox removal. I think i did start it before reconnecting that harness to go through the gears 😣 so how do i get check engine off? Current laws around here is its an automatic fail for inspection with 'check engine' on. But that's not til November. Thanks again
B Dizzle if you don’t have a scan tool to erase the code (granted that’s the issue and not something els) disconnect your battery for 30 min or more. Make sure everything is connected properly and put back together then if it’s still on drive the car for approx 100 miles. Should turn off
@@HandsOnDismantler I'll try that. Thanks a million! You're the best. I even told my dad about you HAHA he watched your video, but idk if he liked, subscribed, etc..
@@HandsOnDismantler update: upon leaving work today, 'check engine' light is now OFF 👍 (knock wood)
thanks for showing you are awesome.
Hai Huynh thanks for the wonderful comment.
Hey I see you have a K&N filter. Did it improve your mpg or performance?
Hardly noticeable but I do feel a difference at higher rpms. As far as mpg... not really. It fluctuates with fuel brand and weather. I can get 416-420 miles to a tank at times on highway but just recently with the drop in temperature I’ve been getting 395ish. The best part about it is less maintenance. I check it with every oil change but they don’t need frequent cleaning unless you live on a dirt road or desert. And it’s cheaper to clean than buying a new filter every oil change. 👍
Nice Video very informative. Did I miss hearing about a certain fluid temperature? I don't have Honda car, just curious.
what do you mean by fluid temperature? like what temp should it be at when you drain the fluid? per honda it should be at normal operating temp when servicing.
Hey man, great video. How did you jack up the car so that you were able to get the jack stands under the correct jacking points? The only other jacking point i know of in the center of the car, my jack just cannot reach or get under there. I've got ramps, which I'm assuming would be ok, but I'm a big guy and there is very little room under there when I change the oil.
haha, yes ramps would be best, I use the tow hook point on the passenger side of the engine bay, or I use the jack points where the spare tire jack would go and do each side at a time.
Thanks for this video. Can you add a video on changing engine coolant?
I will when I can! Thank you!
If you have this vehicle do this at 30k. I put 60k on mine without doing this and now getting a shuddering/shake in my cvt. I’m going to do this today and see if there’s excessive metal on the plug and if the shaking stops
Post fluid change update:
First of all, i’d like to say fuck that rubber grommet. You have to yank and push at it with some serious force, I definitely recommend lubing it up first. Using a flathead screwdriver really didn’t help much.
The fluid was only a little bit darker than the fluid in this video and I did not see any metal in the fluid. The magnetic plug did not have a lot more shavings than his plug did. Pretty relieved by this, because I was stressing out about how the fluid would look.
Driving after I was finished, it is noticeably smoother, but I still occasionally get a slight shake between 40-60 mph. Hopefully is improves with further driving. It’s not a bad shake and there isn’t any grinding. It can be easily mistaken for a wheel balancing issue.
yeah that grommet was a PITA, lol thanks for the feedback, i actually think ive read online that some civics had issues with hesitation or shuddering at different speeds. I haven't been able to find that article but I remember viewing it . at speeds of 40-60 that may be a tire balance issue. if your transmission had a internal issue you should feel it earlier in take off as opposed to highway speeds. check your tires first! way cheaper lol
Danny A. I let it go so late because I figured it was just a minor balance issue. I bought alloy wheels for the car last year and have been switching them out for the bad winter months. It never occurred to me that cvt fluid needed changed more often than an automatic trans. Getting the alignment checked and wheels rebalanced is my next step.
Danny A. Brake fluid change also just came up on the maintenance minder for the first time. I may do that soon. At least 75% of the miles on my car are highway. I had a long commute to work for a couple years. Also taken it across the country a couple times. My brake pads still have a lot of life at 61k and im sure the brake fluid is fine
SDAlexander it’s not so much that’s it’s a CVT the importance of fluid service is in the fact that there isn’t a serviceable filter for transmission. So for people who let the fluid go for a long time arnt getting the little dirt and metal pieces out of the fluid which in turn blocks the internal filter. Since the average person can’t service the internal filter it gets neglected and then eventually gets blocked and restricts fluid flow...that spells transmission failure! 😭 but yeah I’m almost certain %99 that your tires need to be balanced
I heard about the older Hondas automatic transmissions from 1996-2005 weren't all together good. They weren't necessarily as bad as newer Nissan's from 2006 and so on. All the Hondas I had were stickshift.
djevan 41598 manual transmissions are a lot more reliable than any automatic. The problem back then was no one really understood how important doing a fluid change was. They all listened to the (100k) mike service interval. But like most people they thought, Honda’s last forever! Except they found out forever was actually 120k miles lol. It’s really sad how unreliable these automakers have become, and they don’t even support their customers.
Hands On Dismantler these auto makers just want to rip everyone off
Got a question on the video you mention at16:21 did u start the car n have it running while you we’re switching gear?
Cheng Vang yes, the process is done with the vehicle idling so that the fluid is flowing.
Thanks for the great vid
Mason Vieira thanks for the great reply! 😄
Thanks for making this video
Np thank you for watching! hope i earned your subscribe
Why is it so important to only use the Honda HCF 2 fluid and not something like Castrol CVT fluid?
thepizzaguy ishere great question!. And thanks for watching. Manufactures use special formulas and added detergents in different oils. Some have a thicker or thinner viscosity and others have different lubricating properties. With the increase of technology placed into the engine and transmission it’s very important to make sure you’re using the right fluid and not substituting. A oil like Castrol is not vehicle specific and just a general oil. Therefore it won’t be enough to lubricate the Honda cvt transmission. It may work temporarily but you WILL experience issues by using it. 👍🏻
@@HandsOnDismantler another reason is because of honda finds out you used anything other then what they recommend, your in trouble if you need warranty repairs.
should the car cool down for at least 12 hours like in morning time to change trasmission fluid.. i herd do not change while its hot
The only reason you shouldn’t change the fluid while the car is hot… is because it’s hot. You could get burned and hurt by the oil. Allowing the car to cool down will keep you safe.
Thanks for your help
Np alan, thank you for watching!
Can you post the Honda part numbers for the drain plug crush washer and the check bolt crush washer?
I dont believe there is a specific part number, They literally just hand you a crush washer at the dealer with no packaging. ill double check when I get a chance though.
Can you do a video how to flush and refill a Honda Civic 2016 coolant system;please? THANKS
Soon! thanks for the recommendation!
@@HandsOnDismantler Thank you !!! Wish a merry christmas and happy new year for you and your family.God bless you.
My 18 civic has 41k miles, is this due for transmission oil change?
You can do it at 50k miles 👍
Screw it, you got a like subscribe and a bell. Nice video.
haha awesome! Thank you!
Thank you so much. How do you know which crush washers to get? If I'm looking on Amazon, it's confusing
It’s not a huge deal to reuse them once or twice. But if you really want to swap it you’ll have better luck at the dealer. If you want to shop online you’ll have to measure it and match it
Does it mention anything in the service manual that the transmission fluid needs to be at a certain temperature when checking level?
RZRWILLY hey thanks for watching. It does not. But most cars are checked when at warm or operating temps.
nice helpful and informative video
Thank you! Glad it helped!
Good explanation. Thanks
Balraj Sekhon thanks for the kind words! I appreciate it.
Great Job, and I agree.
Thank you for the comment!
Thsnks, this wss good.
Thank you for the comment! glad it helped. I hope I earned your subscribe!
Do you check oil levels via check bolt when engine is hot or cold or warm? Read CVT oil expands 10% when hot.
You should only be checking it during service. After that it stays closed until next service. Or unless you have some reason to remove it
Everyone save some time and get a long funnel, fill fluid through the overflow hole. It is much easier than removing all of this
Derek , thank you for taking the time to leave feedback and watching the video. While it is possible to use a extra extra extra long funnel to fill fluid through the “check bolt” your yoga moves to get around the air box would need to be on point and to actually get a funnel into the hole would require more time, effort and curse words then it would be to just remove the air box and do it correctly, per Honda engineers.
Thanks again for your feedback, I hope this video ultimately helped you to do this yourself.
Why would you do that when the air box is so easy to remove. I’ve done this twice on my car now. Very simple
How often should you change your transmission fluid on a Honda Civic 2016? I took it to the dealer for an inspection yesterday and they suggested I do that because the car has 32000 miles and they recommended at every 30,000 miles. When I looked online, I see a range from 37500 miles to 90,000 miles. Are they just trying to scam me?
theyre not trying to scam you. but they are a dealership and their main goal is to make money on extra services. my recommendation is that 30k miles is a great time to service it. if money is tight going to 50k miles wont do any harm and is just as great.
Is the torque on the check bolt the same as transmission oil drain bolt?
Dj Hasani yes sir. Thank you for watching! Hope it helped!
also is there a crush washer for the check bolt? Seems like there should be lol
Kyle Fowler hey! Yes there is also one for the check bolt. You can get by without issues with not replacing the check bolt crush washer, ( just reusing the same one) but they are cheap enough it should just be replaced. The more important one to replace is the lower drain bolt to prevent leaks.
Does the car have to be perfectly level? Im on ramps in the front and jacked the back. My garage is sloped. So im unuse what level really is.ni think the back is a tad lower then the front of the car. Not sure how sensitive the transmission is to over filling? Ill measure the liquid which was drained to see how much came out.
Ideally yes you need to be leveled or close to it.
Thanks man I appreciate it
Np!
you didn't change the transmission filter ?
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Hello, I explain in the video and the description 😱
Hey man! Question, where did you buy your transmission fluid. Cant find any stores that sell the honda genuine transmission fluid
Online or any Honda dealership parts department. It was cheaper for me at my local dealership. 👍🏼
Jack, could I just measure how much fluid comes out, then replace it with the exact amount of fluid? I have no way of getting the car level so I cant do the check bolt methood.
Peach Cartel , I suppose if that is your ONLY option. Then yes it’s possible but NOT ideal and I don’t recommend doing it that way. There could be a loss of fluid when draining and transferring it from one container to another. Then the guessing starts and that’s when you’ll have issues. It should only be done if you can be exactly precise with the measurements.