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Reacting to Sisters Wives Season Seventeen (17) episode 13.
Kody, Meri, Janelle, Christine and Robyn
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I think Kody’s version of loyalty is agree with me 100% and give me everything my way.
That's not loyalty, that's obedience.
Exactly
Yeah, I think you’re right it’s a in order for you to be loyal to me you must bend to my every will
LOYALTY AND RESPECT are trigger words for me. My previous abusive spouse demanded such qualities based on his dysfunctional perception. Such complaints regarding lack thereof was followed by an outburst (i.e., physical abuse). These are red flags for me.
Thats what thier councillor said to him when they had therapy
When Kody says "loyal" what he means is "obedient".
Subservient. Yes I agree. He doesn’t know what loyalty and real marriage is.
@@mercedescheyennehe changes meanings of words. Typical narc.
He should get a dog if he wants loyalty and obedience. Oh…but he doesn’t like dogs….i bet dogs hate him, lol
Yah a dog isn’t a good idea .And who do you have to be loyal to
Are you that stupid Cody and why do the boys have to be obedient to you they are not obedient they are not dogs
I'm really disappointed that the scenes with Robyn's kids were skipped over because the juxtaposition of those scenes, where Aurora self-isolates for a week and they are sobbing because they miss each other soooo much, with Gabriel just wanting to hear a simple happy birthday after months of non-communication with his Dad is so indicative of how broken this family really is.
Janelle & Kody have been married for 30 years. And for the first 25 Kody rewarded Janelles independence with affection because she was not demanding like Meri and easy to satisfy she stroked his ego because she would say their marriage was great while in his mind Christine was always complaining. Now suddenly the very thing she did for 30 years that he loved about her is a problem.
Typical narcissism.
Robyn is like Voldemort. He never says her name, but we know he's talking about her, when he says "certain family members" or someone who is "connected to me" "somebody in my life who is loyal to me"
Voldemort!! I love it! 😂😂😂
Truth!
These are so much better when you include your wife. 🎉
😂😂😂😂
LMAO!!
Gabe breaks my heart. He deserves so much better!
I remember when Gabe was made to leave Vegas his senior year of high school. Gabe lost out on so much. A wrestling scholarship and his senior year. He made him cry. It was so sad. Broke my heart.
Yes Gabe had me in tears too. My heart broke for him. Such a sweet and food kid. He deserves SO much better
Team Gabe!!! All day everyday!
I know!!!! My momma heart breaks for him!! Sweet boy.
Watching that young man cry broke my heart and brought me to tears. The Mom in me wanted to reach through my TV and just hug him and tell him that everything was going to be alright. Gabe feels Kody's abandonment to the very core of his being. How could Kody NOT keep track of his children's birthdays? How could he not even remember that in the month of October that one of his children was born? Do you know how? He was more concerned about having COVID than trying to repair the damage he has done to his older children. It was all about Kody when he picked up that phone to call Gabe. For a young man to break down like that, publicly, he is REALLY hurting. I could not watch my son break down like that and continue being an ASS to him like Kody is doing. Prayers that Gabe gets through this and that he knows that he is a BETTER man than his father.
Gabe is already more of a man than Kody can ever hope to be.
Kody will regret pushing his kids away in the future maybe he is already
Oh my God, I said the same thing! That young man crying broke everything in me as a Mom. How could Kody NOT understand the level of damage he has done to Gabe and the other older children. They know that he literally cares more about Robyn's kids...who are not his BIOLOGICAL kids than he does them. The fact that he never called Gabe during or after he had COVID breaks my heart. 10 freaking months later he calls, and its only because he and Robyn are now sick with it....SMH
@@coco244110 I'm not even a parent and Gabe broke my heart.
Two things about Janelle that you may be missing. 1) The couch interview isn’t done at the same time as the footage they show. She has time to think about everything. She’s very much in an abusive relationship! 2) Janelle may be playing along so she can’t get the financial assets she needs to leave!
Janelle also skipped when she asked for help she was ignored. That's when she decided to be her own hero.
YES!!! The confessionals are done as they are preparing to release the new season after episodes are mostly edited. Mykelti"s posts indicate she filmed her couch confessionals in June of 2022.
Local Podcaster saw Kody speaking with Sukanya in a hotel lobby in July, so I'm guessing we'll get another tell all.
The fact that Kody had nor talked to Gave by potentially June of this year make the fact that he sat next to his mom at Logan's wedding all the more significant. I hope Janelle has left!
Janelle is a super woman.
It wss so cringe worthy listening to Kody speak to Janelle. It is very clear that Robyn has been playing shrink with Kody and omg Kody sounds just like Robyn! Time to walk away Janelle and let them support themselves fully.
I dont feel good about Truly visiting Kody and Robyn's because they struggle with not bringing up Christine. I just feel it will be such a toxic situation.
100%! 🥺 You can tell that Truely wasn’t comfortable there compared to how she was so comfortable with Janelle!
As soon as Truly gets there Cody wants to put her to work.🙄🤦♀️
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Truely didn't want to spend the night there, that's why she didn't pack pajamas. I was thinking of the way my 2 1/2 year old granddaughter behaved when packing to visit her paternal grandparents. My daughter had lined up their bags in the hall and was basically filling them with clothes fresh from the dryer and my granddaughter went to her room and collected everything she thought necessary for an extended visit. It was hilarious, all the belongings she gathered up to put in her bag..She would have packed everything she owned if she could. That's how children behave when they are looking forward to a visit..They pack everything.
Truely didn't want to visit Robyn and Kody, so she didn't pack what she would need for an overnight visit. It's that simple.
@@abeal49 Truly also dodged a bullet with the covid, so funny from the very people who has such strict rules, this is what his other wives were trying to express but he refused to listen, I think he just used covid as an excuse to stay with Robyn.
Kody is treating Gabe and Garrison like he did with Ysabel and Gwendolyn. He put it on his daughters to get COVID tests before he would come over to visit them, but he wouldn't tell them when he was coming over.
Per Christine's recent podcast interview. Kody didn't always show up when he said he would. Like so many ex-wives, she was placed in the awkward position of lying to the kids saying that he really wanted to be there but couldn't. Christine saw the light go out in her daughters' eyes as they saw through the lie. It crushed Christine too.
@@cathywithac omg can u pls tell me what pod?
@@brendalizayala Reality Life with Kate Casey interviewed Christine.
@@brendalizayala It's "Reality Life with Kate Casey" Episode 571 - Christine Brown of Sister Wives" of December 2, 2022. I found it on Spotify. It's worth listening to several times to capture all of the content.
@@cathywithac thank you already started listening and wowsers!
Gabe’s segment made me tear up! The disparity between Gabe and Aurora was blatantly obvious! Kody tearing up because Aurora couldn’t see him for 10 DAYS whereas, Kody couldn’t be bothered with Gabe even on his birthday was so sad!
Also Aurora and Breanna are allowed to stay home after 18, but Gabe and Garrison are supposed to be out at 18. Kody is a massive Narcissist! Just when I think he can’t get worse, HE DOES! Kody would NEVER miss a birthday of Robyn’s kids. Ever! It makes me LIVID that he did this. He’s broken his heart! Kody also called him a Narcissist (or maybe that was Garrison he called a Narcissist).
the culture of poligamy is it kick competition, young men out. I'm not saying it's right. There is no doubt that Kody and Robyn are self involved asshats. Gabe is so damaged by decisions they have made. fingers crossed Janelle does finally leave. the rest I don't give a rats ass about
Different set of rules when it comes to Robyn and her children. Dayton, Robyn's oldest, is 22, it was reported that he recently moved out, again same rules don't apply, they also moved to AZ so he could live with them while he attended school, didn't people question Kody's motive to just uproot the whole family and move from Nevada to AZ over the stupid excuse he just didn't want to live there anymore??, now the only one of his wives left that owns a home in AZ is Robyn, and it's been over 4 years.
Not just that but notice that after Gabe's segment that Kody doesn't address the call himself and forgetting Gabe's birthday.
Remember, it was when he broke Ysabel’s heart that Christine said that’s it…..he cares zero about everyone but Robyn and hers
You are Spot On. I cried so hard for this sweet boy. Wish his Mom would be more protective of his feelings.
From a mothers perspective, Christine is letting Truly know that if she ever feels uncomfortable, she will come get her to ensure she has a safe space in her mother. She is aware Truly has never been there so she has to put it out there that she will always be there if needed. It’s actually an extremely comforting thing to a child to know that especially in any unfamiliar situation. Christine is just trying to avoid a situation where Truly does feel uncomfortable but just stays there and doesn’t speak up.
Agreed! Parents need to put their ego aside and prioritize their child's mental health and wellbeing. Parents newly divorced and as Christine said she had never spent a night away from her. Eventually she should feel comfortable with spending the night at her dad's house. No need to make this first experience a battle and a bad memory.
Poor Gabe, he doesn't deserve such crappy treatment. None of the kids do.
Janelle is also trying to navigate losing her favourite sister wife. But it’s all about Kody.
Everything is about King Cockroach 🪳
That's a very good point. Kody hasn't shown any concern for how Janelle might feel about losing her sister wife. He's a very selfish person.
😡 Kinda disappointed y'all didn't mention the "family sobbing" in the kitchen because they miss Aurora so much, when she's JUST IN HER ROOM QUARANTINING for a few days! Poor Gabe hasn't seen his dad in over a year and it's just "You should be more loyal" from Kody! 😡
He's a great big bull s!@+*er and I'd wipe the s@£# off the ground wiv her, just think in yrs to come, how wud they feel wen no 1 calls in to see sobbing Robyn and cooty OR will they still be together OR will they die b4 they are lil old 2sys and as 4 crying over Aurora having civid and is in her bedroom 4 few days, I found it hilarious
But then again if you have a father like Kody maybe it's even better not to see him...As sad as it is... Because when you do see him all you see is rage ...
It was so heartbreaking watching Gwendlyn react to that scene bc Kody often was and is away from her so much more and it doesn't seem to bother him. She also was sad realizing that now the boys are starting to experience the kind of father that most of the girls have always known. It's just so heartbreaking that this one selfish person can cause so much heartbreak.
@@haleyrison68 if my mother had had a boy me and my sister would have been ignored by our father (we were anyway, but I would have been far more hurt with a sibling getting the love I always wanted).
Worst dad
I've noticed that Truely has pretty much always felt uncomfortable with Kody. I recall 2 incidents that explain why. The first one is Kody tried to teach her to ride a bicycle. She ended up hysterical. The second was her birthday when Kody held a pinata for her to hit. He kept hitting her in the face with it. He said it was so she would know its location, but it was just silly mean teasing. So cringey! I wouldn't feel comfortable with a dad like that!
Not to mention the time he was watching her when Truley was little, got really sick, her kidneys started shutting down, and he didn't take her to the hospital until Aspyn demanded it.
Or when he offered to do Truely's hair like his and he was all but bullying her to do it when she was clearly uncomfortable with it/him.
Clearly projecting his feelings about Christine onto this daughter born 3 weeks before his wedding to Robyn. She’s an annoying distraction to Cody. 😕
It bothers me to no end that Kody confuses "loyalty" and "respect" with "obedience" and "unquestioning". I think all his wives, even Christine after the divorce, have shown great loyalty and respect for Kody. But Robyn is the only wife that obeys him without question. I don't think Kody really understands that you can disagree and question a person but still have huge respect and loyalty towards them. I don't think Robyn is the favourite wife, I think she is the obedient wife. And I think Kody ignores his older children and only focuses on his younger children because the little ones don't talk back. The little ones see him as a god named Dad, and the older ones see him as a man named Dad. I think Kody feels, as far as his family is concerned, it's his lips to God's ears, and everyone should obey him as such. Anyone who questions that is disloyal and disrespectful.
She obeys because he aligns himself with what she wants. It's easy.
She’s the favorite wife because she is obedient.
Right. He's a pathetic, confused man
@@michelleo8499 totally agree. But the moment she questions him he'll say she's being uppity and disrespectful
@@michelleo8499 yes but she's able to be obedient because he favors her.
Did you notice that 10 months after Gabe had Covid, Kody was wondering what his symptoms were? He didn't take an interest in Gabe's covid experience back when it happened, but only when the virus hit Robyn's house?
YES! That bothered me right away. Why ask the questions now? Oh yeah, because your NEW family has it.
Didn’t Janelle also have Covid? I don’t remember Kody being too worried about her.
Omg yes! Yes! Yes! How did he not know any details? It's his son.
@@brendalizayala 10 freaking months! He never thought to call his son and make sure he wasn't having too rough of a time during his time having COVID. Despite all of my warnings and advice for her to be careful, and to get vaccinated, my daughter got COVID this past January. She is 27 and I called my baby girl EVERY SINGLE DAY. I never said "I told you so". I was just a Mom concerned about her baby. If I could have gone over to her house every day, climbed in her bed, and rocked her and soothed her through the worst of it, I would have, she's my baby. I don't understand his coldness towards his older children. At the end of the day, he is their FATHER....how could he treat them the way that he does?
@@coco244110 Totally agree. Also the birthday detail. I get it you forget your sick but after all this time you don't have a calendar? He seems like a micromanager. Its hard to believe he did not have it on a calendar.
Gabriel was Kody's youngest son for about 10 years before Solomon was born. I think he was Kody's golden boy when he was small, then was discarded when Solomon came along and Kody had his new/last son with his favorite wife. Gabriel has been neglected, rejected and ignored for the last decade+(over half his life!). I feel so bad for him.
Typical narcissist.
Kody: I didn't want to quit! (Marriage with Christine)
Also Kody: I'm not interested in an intimate marriage with Christine anymore.
Um, Kody did quit.
Kody has actually said regarding Christine...he thought her to be disgusting 🤢 here he stands looking like the foolish tiny man that he is ...he's the only gross disgusting family member besides Robyn ...deplorably disingenuous
Kody just expected Christine to go on like Meri did. Loveless marriage to help bring in money for Robyn. Yet Kody tells Meri continuously that he doesn't love her and that she can leave. Now Christine has left, and he doesn't want Meri. Janelle is the ONLY person standing between polygamy and monogamy.
He’s a hypocrite. He talks out of both sides of his mouth all the time
Kody is the king of gaslighting.
I agree. He is the definition.
I think the issue with Gabe is his dad doesn’t care to call him in general… his only call was only about him worrying about himself and Robyn
Kodys conversation with Janelle is an excellent example of triangulation. He would love all his wives to be fighting over him…..trying to prove they are the most “loyal.”
The fact that Janelle isn’t taking the bait is what enrages him.
Gabriel’s scene was heartbreaking. And no one is to blame but Kody for that.
The fact that Gabe adds “and I shouldn’t have done this” he knows Kody will rage at him for “deceiving him” by not mentioning it was his birthday. And Kody will never understand it’s not just the act of forgetting his birthday and calling for covid advice that was the injury, it is emblematic of how Kody treats him years on the making.
I am 69 and have had Covid twice and didn't act like Kody, I am disappointed a little in Janelle the way she let Kody talk to her but I do beleive Janelle Loves Kody and feels he is her best friend, But who treats their best friend the way he treats her, Its sad
The thing is, Robyn is the ever damsel in distress. She dominated Kodys time to the point that he didn’t have time for his other relationships. Including his kids. Through the years she completely took Kodys time. Kody can’t be away for more than a day. Etc etc The other wives have not gotten the same effort that Robyn did. He created the division with the other wives. Had he been the same husband to them that he’s been to Robyn, their relationship would be different.
I mean look at what he said about his own sons moving out of Janelles house. When Robyn’s grown kids are still living at home. Everything is so unequal. And unfair. It’s heartbreaking for his kids that he’s treated so poorly while he’s treated Robyn’s kids better than his own. Shame on him. Shame on him.
This is going to come back on her. Robin is going to hate when she is the only one.
When they were in Vegas and Kody was with one of his other wives, didn't Robin always call Kody because she needed something?
@@gonzo3954 always! She did that in flagstaff also. What the other wives would never do! And what kody would never allow them to do.
Exactly! You are spot on.
@@SciVibes2136 I would be embarrassed if I were them. Making this big brew haha about poor sickly Robyn. Then poor sickly Kody. They did not have a severe case of Covid. But they were totally fine sending Breanna off to school even tho she had been around them prior to them getting their positive result. Pure hypocrisy. They didn’t want it but yea go ahead and drag it to school with you Breanna. Kody staying the CDC rules blah blah blah apparently he didn’t study them closely enough.
I loved your wife’s comment about Kody finally feeling jealous the way they do, I hadn’t thought of that, and it’s so true.
I love the divorce on his record .. this isn't dmv. This is about being in a loving, nurturing relationship.
As I watch, I want to mention this: if Truly feels comfortable staying at Janelle’s house but not at Robyn’s, why not have her stay with her father on his nights with Janelle? Oh yeah-Kody finds excuses not to stay with her.
that is a really good point.
perfect comment. I thought I was the only one thinking this.
This woman was so funny, “David, Can I do this?”😂
I was thinking that too!!!!
I think Truly really feels uncomfortable around him not Robyn necessarily. Her interactions with just the two of them are cringy because of him.
Christine wanted to be treated as an "equal" sisterwife & that meant she wanted equal time, intimacy, etc. But above all, Christine wanted Kody to treat their children together better. She gave a podcast interview the other day where she said if Kody had just been a good dad, she'd still be there. Janelle says she was getting the romance, etc. that Christine did not. But we can see that her kids were just as neglected as Christine's. Why is that ok? I don't know how someone who neglects & emotionally abuses your children can be your best friend & the person you want to talk to about everything. Something doesn't compute. And I love Janelle, but that puzzles me.
Agreed! I think Janelle means that she and Cody have SOME intimacy, as in her birthday and anniversaries. Christine mentioned this in the office declaration where Kody tried to rebuke that they did indeed have intimacy...On special occasions where I'm sure he felt duty bound. The final straw was telling Christine he no long wanted ANY sex. Far be it for his majesty to deny her majesty (Robyn) her right to sex! The guy is 53...hes good for about once a week tops.
I think it’s possible that Cody was perceived to be a better Dad when the kids were younger because he tends to focus on their younger children. That’s one of the reasons janelle didn’t seem to have any issues with staying with him.
@@peggy67ful I agree. Kody is definitely not attracted to Janelle, and is probably not getting intimate with her often. Most likely Janelle doesn't need sex often to feel fulfilled with him, and so once a few months is fine for her🤷🏾♀️
Agree completely on Janelle. I can’t figure out how she can be so passive when her boys have been so emotionally abused.
The problem and reason for this is the AUB doctrine.
He forgets Gabe’s bday but is “sobbing” because he’s had to quarantine for 10 days from Aurora, Robyn’s adult daughter. If I were his kid, that line would show me everything I needed to know.
That was disturbing.
Kody might have a thing for the daughter he's unhinged
That's weird too....
@@LynnVon3443agree...which is very gross. But it happens in the perversion of polygamy and in others with perversions too. I wouldn't put it past him, narcissists self destruct and get crazier and crazier as they make up and justify their reality.
Heartbreaking scene with Gabriel....the difference of his treatment of Robyn's children and his other children is unbelievablely cruel.
Maybe Kody treated Janelle better (then Christine)through the years because Janelle was always the breadwinner of the family?!?!
Kody wants a traditional relationship with Janelle and might end the marriage over it, but that was what Christine wanted and he didn’t want that but now he is furious that she left.
I wouldn't call what he now wants a traditional relationship. He wants a Mormon fundamentalist polygamist relationship, where husband is ruler and wife is subservient and obeys.
First, thank you for the professional commentary. It is very refreshing. As a divorced mom, I would like to say that Christine allowing Truly to make the decision to stay is better for establishing and promoting self-reliance and protection. For years after my separation, I told my kids that they had to see their dad. Well, come to find out, he was verbally abusive and trash talked me at just about every visit. Once they finally told me what was happening, I told them that it was their decision and I would support them. That way, I would not be to blame for them choosing to not have contact. Christine as video proof that both K and R cannot keep their personal opinions to themselves in front of the kids.
All it boiled down to is he's still pissed because Christine left him and he's lost control. And yes, he wants everybody to be like Robin. Janelle sees it for what it is. He lied. He wants the boys to grovel so he can use his "love" as something to hold over their heads for control.
I don't believe for a second that he didn't know what day it is etc. He literally forgot his son's birthday because he's not one of the "golden children".
Gabe crying bc his dad forgot his birthday is absolutely heartbreaking. Kody and Robyn need to put their Big Kid pants on and act like “parents” they say they are… it isn’t the child’s responsibility( no matter if they’re and older child) to reach out to them and to make amends . Kody and Robyn should make that step.
My folks forgot my bd one year. Like Gabe, I didn't say anything either. It was hurtful but unlike Kody, they did remember a few days later on their own and were so apologetic. I forgave them but it still hurt.
So when I saw the part about Kody talking about how he possibly needed to get checked, I viewed it a little differently. Instead of seeing him bringing it back to himself, I saw him saying "I'm going to play up my symptoms to potentially get admitted to the hospital and take resources from those ACTUALLY experiencing dire symptoms just so I can be with Robyn."
If you notice he says "but I knew that they'd just separate us" while he's going through his spiel.
That’s how I interpreted it too. I hate to say it but I think they both were acting overly dramatic about the whole situation. Robin was supposedly struggling to breathe but wasn’t even on oxygen🙄
I saw it that same way.
I agree, and I also felt like maybe he was feeling slightly upstaged by Robyn being sicker than him?
As someone who works in the medical field and has worked through this entire pandemic, dealing with Covid, his willingness to basically go in and "fake it" made me sooooo mad! ( and I do realize he did have it, but he knew darn well he didn't require medical intervention)
@@Becca-yw4ji So true. My thoughts exactly. She should not have been in the hospital.
He only called Gabe because he wanted to know about covid. Not about Gabe.
Cody is holding a grudge, not very Christening, Cody Appears to have a problem..my opinion.Diana
Maybe Janelle saying she wants to try and save the marriage is actually her trying to hang in long enough to recoup and recover her financial losses.
This is absolutely my belief. And hope.
Kody's whole schtick about Janelle's loyalty is HIM saying you have to hate Christine with me and cut ties....but Janelle's kids were raised by Christine and hang with Christine and Janelle will NEVER ditch her babies for HIM and Robyn....never try to get between a mama bear and her cubs.
I feel like Kody is confusing loyalty with obedience.
His loyalty is janelle not seeing christine
One of the things I noticed was what a huge deal Cody made about not seeing Robyn's older daughter for 10 days but he ignores his other kids for months on end
My grandmother had 9 and her mother had 19 as well and they didn’t miss any birthdays and neither did their husbands. They also didn’t miss their grandchildren, great-grandchildren, great-great grandchildren’s birthdays as well and they didn’t have telephones to remind them. There is no excuse!!!!
Same, I am the youngest of nine...birthdays were always remembered. I have 34 nieces and nephews and I remember them ALL...its called love
Amen!!!
Do ya blame Truely for feeling uncomfortable, look at kody , hands in pockets , how he talks to her , he seems nervous too as he doesnt know her anymore. I cried with poor Gabe 😢💜 Thanks guys good recap
Nope. I think it’s all about Kody wanting “loyalty”, meaning ditch Christine. It’s all about that for Kody. He is punishing Janelle for staying close to Christine.
That's exactly it! Kody does not like his wives to get along. He purposely pins them against one another, and it's not working on Janelle, so he's mad
Christine had said in a previous interview that there WERE major problems along the way that SHOULD have been addressed, but that their time as a couple was so short that she difn't want to take away from her children's time to hash out problems. She wanted time together to be as happy as possible so that he WOULD return and want to return.
How exhausting to always be shoving down problems and faking happiness...OR ELSE!
Hi, love your channel. To be fair I think Janelle just got sick and tired of not having her needs met, so stopped asking for his help
Yep!!
Don’t worry Gabe, I’m my dads only child and he hasn’t called me in years 😂 no but to be fair it was so hard to see him hurt because I too have had that same realization and it sucks but honestly it’s necessary in order to stop searching for that parents approval and fully embrace living your own life. I’m mad TLC made them catching COVID such a footnote since it was the big bad evil for the entire freaking season! Can’t wait for Janelle to give Cody a good look at the back of her head as she walks away next week.
Yes! So much focus on Robyn, Kody and their kids getting Covid. I’m sure they were sick. But Robyn didn’t need to go to Emergency. All of her results were good. But TLC made it seem SO tragic. Personally I think it’s funny they had their turn.
The "loyalty" talk is all about the future of the TV show and Christine. Kody is worried that Janelle will either side with Christine against him next season or possibly even start a spin-off show together.
Janelle says she ASKED! And it was ignored. I think you missed that part David. That’s when she decided to be her own hero
I think David missed that part, too.
When they moved to Vegas, Hunter gave Janelle a horrible time! He was depressed, anti-social (even with his brothers & sisters) and unruly! Kody came by every third day. Janelle asked him to come over more. But Kody "couldn't because of Robyn's kids being at a tender age."?!
Janelle had to be her own hero then! She saw her mother raise her and her sister alone after Janelle's father died! Janelle and her sister were young when he died. So, Janelle saw an independent woman working as a nurse in a hospital to support her 2 girls! What did Kody expect Janelle to do?! She called him when Hunter acted up, but he rarely came over to help Janelle with Hunter!
It's always been "Robyn and her kids. Robyn and her kids"! Ridiculous!!!
@@nrusso967 and when they were leaving Vegas to move to Arizona, Gabe was a wreck. He had to give up something significant....a wrestling position?? I forget the specifics, I just remember Janelle trying to convince him dad was "doing the right thing" by uprooting them all again.
As a mom of two sons, my heart breaks for Gabe, I want to just give him a huge hug! Everyone should send Gabe a birthday card!
This broke my heart. He doesn't call Gabriel for months then does on his birthday but it's not for him it's about Kody and COVID. Only when he's reminded he calls back..idk. Kody is something else. I'm a grandma, I forget my grandkids',( I have 18 and 1 great grandchild), birthdates, but I'm hella sorry when I do and they surely I'm sincere when I apologize.
Was he really eating as he was destroying Janelle's relationship? He still had an appetite? Did Janelle? I couldn't look at him. He wasn't really feeling Janelle's heart at all, iny opinion
But my children, never.
Janelle states she would ask for what she needed and nothing happened. Christine asked Kody to put the kids to bed when she was working at night after watching the kids all day and pregnant with Truely… he said no. Janelle in the past refused to move with the family because she didn’t agree and Kody didn’t don’t meet her needs then. These women I feel have tried and Kody is only interested in himself. Since meeting Robin he has someone that “defers”to him and plays up the husband is master narrative to alienate the others
Gabrielle and Kody used to have a really close relationship which is why Gabe has taken the covid situation badly. Especially when Kody after telling the boys he’d be the one to look after Janelle if she got covid, didn’t help her or show any concern for her or her kids. But happy to call Gabe because he’s concerned for himself and Robin!
This reminds me of my late mother-in-law. No matter what the issue, YOU were expected to come to HER and set life straight. She was so strongly ensconced on her throne that everyone had to grovel before her. There are few people that I felt nothing when they passed away. Feeling absolutely nothing was the highest forrm of respect she deserved.
I can’t stand those type. Did your husband treat her like a “queen” also?
Sounds like my ex-mother in law. Unfortunately, my children didn’t even go to her funeral or consider her a grandmother. I never said a bad word about her. I didn’t have to. She treated everyone around her as beneath her. She died a pretty lonely old women.
Been there and experienced the same non-feeling when my father's mother died! She made me lose the title "grandma" for her years before her death! I guess you can tell that.
His record???? What is this crap? I don't believe Janelle was still having sex with him!The are suppose to be sister wives! He s an idiot!
I think Janelle is right about Robin staying separated. I remember one episode when Christine told Robin that she was hurt that she brought her niece in to watch the kids because she felt like she didn't trust her sister wives to help take care of her kids and Robin sort of mocked her for it. Robin has always brought in help for her kids instead of asking her sister wives.
I work at an urgent care clinic, and part of our barebones business model is that I both care for and register the patients. And I witness MANY times a day the heartbreak when dads (and moms too) can't recall their children's birthdates. BASIC life skills, recall the full name and birthdate of the humans that you created. It's not asking too much!!
Over 35 years experience as an ER nurse.....if I had a nickel for every time a parent couldn't tell me their child's birthday, I'd be richer than rich!!! It's pathetic!!!
The way that Kody responded to Gabe and Aurora tells the whole sad story of how Robyn and her kids supplanted all the other kids. His sobbing because Aurora isolated herself - in the basement of their home - for 10 days vs his seemingly lack of prolonged contact with Gabe clearly demonstrates his] priorities. It also demonstrates the difference between seeing you kids every day like with Robyn's kids vs seeing your kids every 4 days. How can anyone create, sustain and nurture a relationship?
Loyalty and respect are earned Kody.
I think Christine was trying to get Truley to go. So she bargains with her like hey come on and go and if you want to come home you can because maybe she did not want to go at all.
That's what I used to do with my kids when they went to see their Dad. It made them more likely to at least give it a chance and go.
That's how I took it. I don't feel like you should make your child go to someone's home that makes yhem uncomfortable. That is a violation of their feelings and trust. My parents would do the same yhing. There was only certain homes we were allowed to go without them but if we called them and said we wanted to come home, there was NO hesitation to get us.
My apologies for the typos. Idk how to edit my comments 🙈
I really enjoy these! When discussing Janelle, I think you forget that this is her second marriage. (Her first was to Meri’s brother, which is a dynamic I would love to know more about. So, since it ended in divorce, let’s assume there was some type of abuse present (emotion, physical, whatever) to an intolerable level. Then, you marry Kody and you get the other extreme; a husband who is emotionally neglectful but who doesn’t hurt you and let’s you be independent. My guess is that that comparison is part of why Janelle has settled on a good marriage being a neglectful one.
Gabe is also the one kody was constantly dismissing and treating like HE was the problem bc of Clovis. Gabe was working and seeing his girlfriend so kody wouldn’t even come over and blamed Gabe on not being able to see any of janelles kids. Kody wouldn’t call Gabe, he kept telling janelle it was her responsibility to make sure the boys stayed home... but he refused to even call them! He told them to move out of the house. I cried when I saw Gabe cry. How heartbreaking.
Seeing Gabe cry got me all teary 😭 that poor guy. I'm sure Kody doesn't feel bad at all watching that back.
Love how your wife is spot-on reading Janelle👍
Janell should ask Kody, "If I act like Robyn, will you treat me like you treat Robyn?"
Gabe's reaction to Kody for getting his birthday was incredibly heartbreaking. But that amount of hurt doesn't just happen within a year or two of weird COVID rules. I'm beginning to think that all those previous episodes of a happy family when the kids were younger was probably just an act for TV. If you don't have a strong relationship with your pre-adult or adult children it's probably because you weren't really there as they were growing up. Something must have really changed when Robyn came into the family, they moved to Vegas and started this reality show. Or maybe I am giving him too much credit, maybe he's always been a lousy father
He's always been a bad father
kody does not have relationship with any of his sons and not much with daughter.s
after having a child and its not natural to do anything with child...
why do you keep having so many children...the moms did great job but kody can only do for Kody. He seems to have relationships with Robins kids as well as their 2 kids..dont understand the young daughter just started kindergarten i think...she still has pacifier everywhere she goes..Why would anyone allow that? my babies had one by 6months they didnt want it any longer..ive never understood how a 4year old makes the rules..she would not be takin one to kindergarden..how does that work??
If Truley isn't comfortable at Robyn's then stay with Truley at Janelle's house. But why is Truley not comfortable at Robyn's and if she was comfortable with her dad she would talk to him about why she isn't comfortable with Robyn.
I think both Janelle and Christine wanted MUTUAL respect and loyalty and they wanted him to be a good and present father to all of his children. Kody really doesn’t seem to GIVE anything and there is absolutely no such thing in his brain as unconditional love. He wants to be King and he wants to be worshipped. I hope Janelle and Christine find men that show them what a real relationship is. If they get married. I hope those kids have good male role models. I don’t remember birthdays. They all go in my phone reminder. I only have to do it once with repeat yearly. It’s important to me to acknowledge certain birthdays. He has an iPhone. He can do that. Not that hard.
I kept a tally marks this week,
Kody said "I" 158 times this episode, "me" 32 times and "my" 33 times
OMG I realized the same thing! I, ME, MY over and over again....never WE, US or the family etc....
@@cb-oi1hl when he said "I have someone in MY life who treats ME like I'M head of the family" I was like, slow down there buddy! It's hard to put all the hash marks in the right column when he says sentences like that lol
Meri, Christine and Janelle had been living as independent single mothers for years because Kody wanted it that way. It made his life easier. Meri, Christine and Janelle had been forced to live as single mothers since the move to Vegas. It took them a little while to get good at it. First in rental houses then in the purchased homes on the cul-de-sac. Kody made guest appearances in each home every week. It was as if they were the ex-wives that Kody kept around for the kids. These three women were successful in keeping the close relationships among their kids intact. These kids are still close. They have their squabbles but I feel that they would be there for each other when the chips are down.
Loyalty is two-way. Being a doormat is not being “loyal”. Respect is earned
I have no problem remembering more than 22 birthdays and they are not all in my immediate family. Kody ..I have no words; he is the epitome of a narcissist.
If Jannelle sees this it will break her heart to see her son like this…..Kody damaged his kids! It is not about being right Kody!!!!!!
I honestly think if I were Jannelle this would be the final straw. Money or no money, Kody would be jn my rear view mirror
For a child to feel comfortable, make sure she has a set of pajamas. You are her parent, if you want her there make sure she doesn’t just “visit”, so she has to pack and prepare. Let her come home.
The sleep in a big t shirt comment is like what gets said when you stay unplanned with grandparents, not your own parents
Keep watching and commenting with your wife. The two of you bring insights and perspectives to the conversation that the other can't. You respect one another enough to learn from that. It's a pleasure to witness your healthy partnership and the end result is a more accurate analytical product. IMO.
Unfortunatly Kody's behavior is indicative of the cult, he is more concerned about collecting his wives for the afterlife than he is about the relationships. This cult is abusive, it goes beyond the women as well, when the sons become of age they are competion and are driven out. Now that Christine is out and Janelle is well on her way, he wants nothing to do with Meri, so now he's panicking because he lost his ticket to be lord
I genuinely don’t believe that Kody cares about the religious aspect as much as he does the financial part!
Not very respectful to call their religion a cult. Funny how people only say that about Lds or Christians. Would never dare say that about Muslims or Jews. Wouldnt be pc or polite.
I think he feels that he gonna lose money
They don’t even go to church anymore
@@jaymielee1110 If you do some research on their "religion" you will indeed discover it is a cult, it has nothing to do with being respectful about any religion. Do some research on warren jeffs and I think you will be horrified to discover what they stand for
AGH! Sometimes I feel like you want to give Kody benefit of the doubt so much you don't listen to what's being said. To the point about Janelle being her own hero, rescuing herself, taking care of herself...she explicitly said she advocated for herself, that she tried telling him what she needed and he didn't step up. She said the same thing about buying the RV. She tried talking to him, and he didn't respond, help find a place live, etc so she pulled the trigger. Please listen to what she said.
(I think your wife also missed the part in a previous episode about them not having a "full marriage" -- he wasn't staying in the RV, just coming to visit and leave. And seemingly just for filming. Before that, he wasn't over much because of covid and how she and her kids weren't following the RULES. so, how could they have been intimate if he wasn't physically there??
He admitted Meri and he had not been romantic for 10 years. I believe Jannelle also. Christine was begging for more time. Kody left those women a long time before Robyn. He wanted new stuff so he asked to get another wife. And then he just kept complaining about the wives so he’d have an excuse not to be with them romantically.
Yes. Even in monogamy , if the husband doesn’t step up, you have make your own decisions. I understood what she meant
I love watching with your honest take on the show. Thank you for doing this. I appreciate it.
Kody’s demand for loyalty has a financial subtext, in my opinion of course. I’m a longtime viewer and I see Janelle beginning to diverge from being the team player in this area. At this time in her life she is making plans for her personal housing, retirement, and travel to see children and grandchildren. Kody, in an earlier episode, ponders how to support Robin and her children as he ages. These two goals are not exactly compatible, especially with the loss of family money with the absence of Christine’s contributions.
She was happy to be independent. She is not asking him for anything she is wanting to make peace
He already has a divorce on his record. Him and Meri divorced 10+ years ago!
To him, that doesn't count because Meri is still there.
I like the edit down to just the commentary!! I think this is the perfect balance for a watch with me. Also, Gabe? Ugh my heart shattered for him. So so so hurtful
Anytime Meri, Janelle or Christine would confront him with any issues they had with their marriage He would always shut them down and make life miserable for them.
And withdraw or hurt their children
They talk about Janelle and Kody not having relations in a long time in the tell all. He wanted Christien to be ok with that too because he didn't want to have relations with her either. That was one of the reasons she left.
I think Janelle would be too proud she needed anything from Kody.
I think Kody is bitter that Janelle didn't shun Christine and feels close to her, while he wants her to be close to Robin instead. That's why he's punishing her imo.
Yes. He was fine with his relationship with Janelle until Chistine left. If Janelle joined him and Robyn in being mad at Chistine, he'd still think his relationship with her was just dandy. After all, her independence gives him more time to spend with Robyn.
Exactly! This is what he was saying but not saying!
Janelle looks soooooo mad when Kotex starts talking about her boys. The boys are more mature than their father.
Kotex 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I love the psychology or clinical take on the shows …
That’s why I found your channel and really enjoyed knowing the dynamics of the relationships from a clinical aspect and that’s why I love to watch each video that you made. Not that I don’t enjoy banter between a husband and wife I just get much more out of it when it’s a clinical explanation and your shooting from the hip. I love your wife’s spunk and opinions just think maybe two videos on same episode? And all seasons and episodes are available for viewing on Discovery Plus - personally I had forgotten so much and re-watching them has added content and tea to this season and the entire evolution of this show!
I do post two videos for sister wives each week. Check my channel. The solo shorter version will be posted today.
Gabriel broke my heart and I blame Kody for all of it.
I feel like when Cody says loyalty he means obedience.
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Is he giving loyalty to his wives...🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 EXCELLENT question.
I remember the birthdays of 53 immediate family members. Siblings, nieces, nephews, children, grandchildren. Even with 18 kids, Kody has no excuse.
Maybe it was just for the show but the family used to make a big deal about birthdays and said that it was a way to make each individual feel special in such a big family. Kody forgetting Gabe’s birthday is further proof that he’s not interested in the OG family members.
through this I'm reminded that there is a religious aspect to all this that they don't mention much anymore. Christine has mentioned she has left the church but she is also the granddaughter of the guy who started their religious sect and I think that indoctrination is part of the reason they stayed as long as they did. When your afterlife is based on the success of plural marriage then I'm sure it's a strong incentive to stay within said marriage. I think when she began doubting her faith is when she began not being able to put up with Kody because the giant incentive to stay is no longer there.
I think Kody admitted a lot of the Brown family have left the religion now and we are seeing the aftermath of that
And it's partly why Meri stays. Her mum was very deep in the faith and she was very firm about the fact that you stay, irrespective of what happens. Plus this belief that if you don't stay in this marriage on Earth, you will be separated from your entire family in the afterlife. Which, of course, now includes her mum. It's a terrifying prospect, if you believe in something so deeply, that if you 'upset the apple cart', your afterlife will be sent entirely alone.
As someone who doesn't believe in religion, it's a difficult concept to wrap my head around. But I get it.
Honestly it's been a toxic situation from the start. Kody met Robyn before he was 'introduced' to her by Meri (who, as first wife, I believe, had a duty to bring in other wives. Not sure if, at that point, there was a finite number or if they all agreed mutually afterward that they would stop at 4). And Robyn was after a man and allegedly set her sights on Kody.
Then Meri was 'persuaded' to divorce Kody so he could legally marry Robyn (to give her kids by her previous husband his name), and was emotionally and every other way cut off by her supposed husband. Shortly before then she'd had a miscarriage (which is a truly horrible thing for any woman to go through and I doubt she had much emotional support during it), and then when she wanted another baby, he refused point blank, then had kids with Robyn. It doesn't really surprise me that Meri then turned to emotional support online. Nor that she is emotionally 'repressed' I many ways. I'm only surprised she was still able to function at all.
It's good that Christine seems to have left the religion and that the adult kids are monogamous and living their lives. They have a father who is a narcissist and his wife who is needy and possibly incredibly devious and manipulative. Who extends a hand of friendship whilst pulling it away at the same time.
Honestly, not one of them is perfect. Christine admitted to having jealousy issues throughout the marriage even before Robyn, and wanted to be the final and 'prettiest' wife (knowing that he wanted to have at least one more wife anyway). And was unkind to Meri a few seasons ago, when she accused her of carrying 'baggage' around with her all the time. Like she didn't, herself? And didn't see how her sister wife was suffering, emotionally, with absolutely no support? Loneliness can be a horrible, horrendous, terrible thing. It leads to depression and, often, suicide.
I am glad the wives are, one by one seeing the light and getting out. But they need to get their money from Kody amd Robyn. And Gabe needs a lot of love and reassurance from his mum. His father is useless. And he doesn't deserve kids.
The day you have the realisation that your parents just don’t care leaves a massive pit in your chest. I remember physically feeling like my heart broke. Poor Gabe. I felt his heart breaking too.
it is a credit to janelle that despite the norms in their culture.... janelle has raised strong opinionated people... who are caring and have a personal ethic... even when it disagrees with their parents... they feel that their dad is wrong and they are not going to flip flop...
Mrs D, I'm with your assessment of the situation between Janelle and Kody. Your observations are right on. And Dr D, Janelle is not transparent with Kody because she fears the conversation would escalate and nothing would get solved- so she is being careful. She's actually trying to use the tools she learned through the multiple marital/family sessions and workshops they've all gone to. I think she did a good job getting some important information through and showing accountability for her own role. What bothers me constantly about Kody is how hard he is on everyone else, but refuses to see he has a role and care about what his role is, and just whines about his own experience. Honestly right now, Kody is showing how plural marriage and having a kajillion kids doesn't work.
I respectfully disagree. Number one rule: SECURE THE CHILD!!! If Truly doesn’t feel safe than it’s paramount Christine be nearby. After all, it’s Kody’s responsibility to facilitate his relationship with his daughter. If he is incapable of providing for her emotional needs then she needs her mom or Janelle available to provide a safety net. You don’t throw a child into a situation where they feel unsafe with a sink or swim attitude. Her mental and emotional health is paramount. Kody and Robyn are demonstrating their lack of initiating and cultivating a healthy environment for Truly. It would be irresponsible of Christine to ignore these red flags.
I think if they had a good relationship all along, the forgotten birthday would not have been so upsetting. This emotional scene for his son is everything in the last year. It was the straw that broke the camel's back.
I LOL when Kody held up that thermometer saying how sick he was and the temperature was normal 😂
Right ? I’ve had covid twice ! It feels like the flu and it sucks . I don’t compare it to a death like experience the way he did . Ridiculous!
She wants her house!