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Reacting to Sisters Wives Season Seventeen (17) episode 13.
Kody, Meri, Janelle, Christine and Robyn
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This entire family lost any sympathy from me when Kody refused to go with Ysabel for her spine surgery. Every single one of those wives should have spoken up and told him to stow his shit, get over his fear of covid and be a god damn father. The Gabe interview was heartbreaking but unsurprising.
Yep. 100%
“Heartbreaking but unsurprising” exactly that.
Your issue is with Mormonism as a whole. The "keep sweet" ideology is what prevents anyone from speaking up. Mormon culture is already built on everyone knowing they're living a lie and not talking about it. It is also why MLMs and other corporate cults take root so easily in Mormon communities. They are taught from birth to stifle their critical thinking and keep sweet for the purpose of holding up the huge lie they are all living. They all have on reality blinders at all times. It's sad.
He managed to overcome his fear of Covid when he wanted to go to a wedding & dance with whoever - without a mask.
@@msherry5 I’m still not convinced that Kody didn’t bring COVID home with him after that Wedding! You know he’d NEVER admit it if he did. Remember he loves to be “Creative”/LIE 😡
Kody talks about Aurora coming upstairs and crying that she misses them and him crying that he missed her too. Well remember last season when Gabe cried that he missed his dad and wanted to spend time with him but Kody just drove off. 😢😢😢
Yes, that was so upsetting to me when he completely rejected his son when he was literally crying for him. Then to see this?! Kody makes me sick and SO angry.
That is disturbing plus kody carrying her upstairs, buying her 80,000 dollar vehicles...grooming behavior
The same thought he is eyeing her for wife no 5 just saying
I've seen several scenes of Cody talking about Aurora that actually give me the creeps. He's preparing her to be his wife down the line.
Kody probably regrets adopting those two older girls, because they could have been wife 5 and 6.
I’ve watched this show for 17 seasons, and that was the first episode that made me cry. My mom heart just breaks for Gabe.
Gabe and all the children should sue parents and show for exploiting them when under 18. From the first season the seed was planted, the children were valued less and less, as Kody bonded more with Robin. The wives felt it, so the children unconscious or consciously felt it...more and more each season.
From the start, helping Robin with wedding dress, the big wedding, the longer honeymoon, etc.
The children should all sue for their lives being shown going downhill psychological. Abandonment issues...
My heart broke. He deserves so much more
It’s so sad Gabe had a close relationship with his dad before covid,
How sad too knowing Gwen’s birthday is 4 days later AND ROBYNS WAS 2 days BEFORE. You telling me you would
Forget that knowing all those bdays were back to back. Bet he didn’t forget Robyn’s (Solomon and Harrison are also Oct bdays)
Being disappointed by a parent is such a heartbreak
I can't even imagine how all of his other children felt watching him cry over Robyn's daugher being downstairs in the same house for several days. I'm sure he hasn't seen his other adult children in years.
Probably best if the non Robin children cut themselves off from Kody and Robber as they will only ever be accepted if they bow and slobber over them. Its a road to nowhere
@@b.m.t.h.3961 Very well said.
I just font think Kody is aware that his children exist unless he is in view of them every day
Kody wasn't even excited about the possibility of Maddie and her family coming down for Thanksgiving!!
Yeah, that had to be a kick in the teeth. Hasn't seen most of his kids for months but a few days on a different level of the house to one of Robyn's kids and it's having him break down.
The only reason he was upset that Robyn was in the hospital was because he was afraid he'd have to go home and take care of those kids on his own.
Right. I was SO mad when he was flippantly talking about checking himself into the hospital. Like, what? You don’t need to be in the hospital just because Robyn is and you have sick kids at home!
My heart absolutely breaks for Gabriel! So hard to watch his pain! That young man does not deserve a father like Kody! NO child does!
Kody doesn’t care about having a new kind of relationship with Janelle. He cares about Janelle NOT having the friendship she has with Christine. He’s trying to soothe himself and hurt Christine by taking Janelle back.
I agree. He wants her to sever ties with Christine. In his warped mind Janelle is choosing Christine over him. His ego can’t handle that.
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As a kid who was shuffled around between extended family, PLEASE LISTEN TO THE KID. There's no reason whatsoever to ever force a kid to spend the night where they don't want to. Believe me. There are good reasons a kid doesn't want to spend time with people that they know, and the reasons range from "I don't feel loved or safe" to "this person abused me and I don't know how to express that". LISTEN TO THE KID.
I Agree!!!
I agree
Yup..
ABSOLUTELY!!!
1000% Christine was so right in giving Truly an out.
"Kody is confusing loyalty with subservience" -- you nailed it with this comment!! I totally agree. And watching all the emotion he shows when Robin's daughter feels lonely vs. the total lack of attention to his son Gabriel when he FORGETS his birthday is just disgusting.
There is indeed one valid excuse for forgetting your child's birthday. My mother was 76, and had been diagnosed with Alzheimer's for several years. She forgot my birthday. She always called me first thing in the morning. That evening, I called a friend and asked her to remind my mother in the morning that it was my birthday. She called me the next morning, and did indeed think it was my birthday. I was so happy to hear her be so happy, I never let her know that she forgot it. The next year, she was non-verbal. God, I miss her so much!
Mechelle, I was 26 when my mother died unexpectedly, while my father was far away visiting his 90-something mother -- my father was 65. It was a month before my birthday and it was so, so hard having a birthday without my mother on this planet. And my father forgot. He called the next day and said something to the extent of it might not be the last time he forgot it. He was to gradually decline, go missed-diagnosed with anything progressive neurologic and belatedly diagnosed with Lewy bodies disease. But every birthday he remembered. In this case, he was very competent at 65, and his forgetting was to do with the stress / grief / turmoil he was in from unexpectedly becoming a widower. I'd imagine Kody has always needed prompts from wives for birthdays so did Janelle not do it? Intentionally? Could have been.
It was Truely's decision. She did not take her pajamas. She made her decision before she got there and he is trying to override it. She looked overwhelmed by the awkward hyper-attention of Ari, Kody and the other kids. Kody was trying to force the happy family scene for the camera and it just wasn't playing out. Truely reached out to Kody by showing him books that are important to her. He handed them back without appreciating them. I felt the rejection. I wonder if Truely gets any 1:1 time with Kody that included something that she enjoys instead of having her stand there watching him work. Robyn, it is not a return to normalcy because it is the first time that Truely was there.
Compare how she was at jenelle compare to kody vastly different
Christine said she needed her own room and space when she is there. He didn’t provide that, so why force her to stay? If they wanted her there so badly they would have made space for her to feel comfortable.
Did anyone else see that Kody had to tell Ari not to LICK Truely?!
Yeah Kody and Robyn did nothing to make that little girl comfortable so why should she be stuck in that toxic environment just for Kody's benefit? I get what David is getting at about Truly blending in by spending time there, but her time there looks awful and I rather have Truly be the comfortable one in this situation.
Kody is a narcissist, Truely will never have a relationship with him, look at what he's done to Gabe. Christine should have said "no" to an overnight and reassured Truely that the visit with Kody would only be for a short time. Then, maybe that poor little girl wouldn't have been as stressed out as she so obviously was.
My heart broke for Gabriel. Kody is a failure of a father.
Christine BEGGED Kody to be more active in Truely’s life for months before they moved. I imagine Truely expressed trepidation about spending the night with her dad, so of course Christine gave her a safe exit plan, while hoping things would go well, & she would stay the night. Christine seems to very much want for all her kids to have a healthy relationship with their father, despite her own feelings toward him, & Sobyn.
“Sobyn” 😂
Not mine, but many of us use it.😂
In my opinion Christine sat around and bitched about Kody not being with her children but she never once said it to his face and that is what he is trying to explain to us and Janelle did the same exact thing with her children she would sit around and b**** about it about how he was treating the boys but she never went to Kody when it first started and said this is going to stop and you're going to treat your kids right or I'm out of here and that is exactly what both Christine and Janelle should have done as mothers but they didn't!
Absolutely correct!!!
@@janetmartin5382Lies
You overstated the severity of Robyn and Kody's illness. Robyn's ekg and chest x-ray came out fine. They sent her home. No oxygen. Kody's temp. was 99.8! Kody and Robyn were not the most careful. They were very sloppy about their distancing, masking. Kody went to Ok for a wedding! Also, Truely has reason to be uncomfortable around her father. He's been a jerk to her on more than one occasion. Watch the episode where Kody's swinging a pinata over her on her birthday. She's blindfolded and he keeps smacking her in the face with it to tease her. That some sick sh*t from a father to his daughter. Cringe!
Right?! I thought it was an interesting editing tactic to let them throw this way out of proportion. Also, where was Kody being this worried when Janelle and her kids were sick?!
The episode where he “teaches” her to ride a bike made me cry
@@Mrsbrazeng , she ended up hysterical.
Exactly. I wouldn't be surprised if Robyn went to the hospital because she wanted a break. Kody with his 99.8 'fever' probably still expected her to do everything in taking care of the house, kids and, of course, him. So Robyn played up the part she does best: a sick damsel in distress so she could get away for a while.
My nephew is a nurse and seen the worst of Covid and what it does to the body of some people. He was sooo outraged that Robyn went to the hospital. He said she was overplaying it and had no business taking up a spot someone else needed. Especially during that time where they were struggling to deal with the ACTUAL sick patients. He said it was a mild to moderate case at best and no need for a hospital stay. He actually had Covid worse that Robyn did, and he still got things done, and Robyn was just enjoying poor health. She had Covid but it was not even close to be a serious or hospital worthy case of it. He said trust me, I KNOW what REAL serious Covid looks like and Robyn wasn't even close to that.
What kody is saying without saying it for fear of back lash is * I want loyalty and loyalty to him is the shunning of christine & placing the blame of the divorce on Christine on camera as the other sister wives have done.*
Thank you for stating this. I kept wondering to myself what loyalty means to him. What makes Robyn so loyal and not Janelle? Your explanation makes a lot of sense.
It’s deeper than that, this loyalty thing goes further back than Christine leaving. He withheld affection from Christine because he didn’t feel she was loyal to him, it’s been going on for years now if you watch previous seasons … probably since the catfish incident loyalty has been a big part of what Kody wants.
Loyalty=Obedience
@christinestewart3458 I've been watching old episodes & he felt an obligation for whatever reason to marry Christine. Christine was loyal & wanting of love but love & attraction was not the feelings he felt for her. To quote kody "The sacrifices I made to love you" oof!! That's harsh to say loving her was a sacrifice he had to make. He didn't seem to care much when Meri wasn't loyal to him yet he is just having this loyalty talk with Janelle. Why Janelle? The way I see it it's because Janelle is the only one who is friends with Christine. We'll see how this unfolds. I'm hoping Robyn gets that crazy man all to herself.
How about Truely's 10 th brithday...OH RIGHT, there was none other than what Christine did for her and her siblings, but no Kody and Robyn with a party...BUT shortly after, when Robyn's youngest Ariella was turning 5 and wanted a party, Kody moved heaven and earth during COVID to not only host a party but demand all of Janelle's and Christine's kids be there to celebrate, Then had every member take a turn and tell Ariella what it was about her that they loved so much, including Truely, the one whom he couldn't have a party for when she turned 10 because of COVID? But Covid was suddenly not an issue (BTW that was their first Covid scare when the NANNY and her husband came down with Covid a few days later,)...he was all over Ariella giving her hugs and kisses and praising her, while Truely sat and watched. And it is not just Truely...Janelle's daughter Savannah who would have been 15 at the time was a stranger. When Kody again insisted they all get together for Christmas and exchange gifts, Savannah gave Robyn's youngerst a gift, They had to TELL her who Savannah was, because Ariella didn't know her name or who she was (her own sister)....so Kody and Robyn's neglect of knowing the kids is a long long road.
I have been watching the videos of the 'Canadian Polygamy Study'. They say that is is common for the younger kids and older kids to not know each other. Yes, it's sad but this is what you signed your kids up for Robyn.
@@cathywithac Then Truely should not be forced to visit if she does not want to. I think I may have read somewhere she has stopped going altogether now.
Another example of Robyn not trying to be a sister wife! (while proclaiming it's really important to her.)
That really bothered me too that Truley had to sit there and watch her whole family tell her sister what was special about her and they didn’t think to do anything special for Truley. Like, hey that’s great they did that for Ariela, but they should have also had a make-up party for Truley. 10 is a big deal of a birthday! That poor little girl has been so neglected by Kody in general and that party had to have hurt her feelings.
Kids aren't stupid. They internalise these things. If Truely doesn't want to stay , she shouldn't be made to.
It really seemed like Christine wanted Truely to spend more time with Kody. The whole "what does the nanny do?" quote originated from Christine wanting her girls to be allowed to go to Robyn's house.
I seem to recall Cody saying he was going to have a bedroom for Truely at Robyn’s house. That never happened. This is all on Cody! He makes no effort to get to know any of Christine’s girls. He’s too busy with his favorites.
Truly doesn’t have to try and stay with her daddy . It’s not the mama’s responsibility to make truly stay with ass it’s not anyone responsible but ass . It’s totally his job. Truly is one of his youngest children but he doesn’t want to be around her . Maybe she reminds him of how how he thru his kids away except robins and his and robins two together . He’s an ass . Robin is the step mother in Cinderella. With all his other kids Helen Keller can see this .
What does Christine do?
@@meggie423 What do you mean, like for a living? She used to work for LuluRoe and now she's a Plexus sales rep and has her own cooking show.
@@meggie423 that was one of Kodys questions he actually stated it wasn’t cooking or cleaning! She’s busy raising Kodys kids and working. I’d like to know what Kody and Robyn do all day!
The whole scene with Truely coming to Robyn's house reminded me of when Kody tried to teach her to ride a bike. It was awkward and unpleasant and just really illustrated his lack of bond or relationship with her. She didn't trust him then and it's clear she doesn't trust him now. He makes it so painfully obvious that he doesn't listen to a word she says or consider her feelings in any way. Great recap/assessment, thanks!
I remember that bike episode, too. He was so mean to Truly.
Truly looked extremely uncomfortable going into the house visiting Kody. It seemed Truely wearing her backpack on her front entering the house may have been a self protective measure she may not have been aware of.
I thought it was very noticeable how Truly was wearing her backpack in front of her like a shield. And no wonder - immediately after she got to the house, Kody said he had to leave. And what Kody has done to Gabe is absolutely despicable. He's just horrible.
And Aurora is a grown adult! The crying behavior about spending time with her is creepy and disgusting. She is NOT a 4 year old who can't understand. Robyn's kids have some serious issues and it is no wonder when they are being raised in a codependent, enmeshed household. It's maddening
Also, what is ridiculous is Robyn saying the little kids don't know what is going on or haven't been fully explained what happened between Kody and Christine cause they are too little. Are you fucking kidding me?? They are NOT infants or toddlers! Solomon is 10 or 11? Ari is 6 or 7? Hiding family issues from children creates more discourse!! And not to mention it has CLEARLY been communicated to the "little" kids in a probably horrific way with Ari's screaming "Have More Dates!" at Christine upon Christine's departure.
Seriously what the fuck is wrong with Robyn (and Kody) and how she raised her kids? It's DISTURBING! Call CPS.
Aurora definitely got her mother's crying gene.
I feel like the relationship between Kody and Aurora feels almost inappropriate. It's a red flag to me.
You made such a great point! Robyn raises her children to be extremely CODEPENDENT
I have never agreed with a comment more.
@@samanthabamantha5816 totally agree - what Kody said about missing her made my skin crawl 😢
Kody was clearly demonstrating just why Christine left. His favoritism was on full display with his sobbing after being separated for 10 whole days. How long did he miss out with Aspen’s surgery? How long was it when he missed out on Truley when she was gone with settling Aspen in NC? He doesn’t know or care about any of the kids outside of Robyn’s kids. He’s disgusting
I think you mean Ysabel, not A spin.
Robyn saying she just wanted a chance to smooth things over with Garrison rang a little false to me. She had every opportunity to call him and discuss the situation without Kody’s intervention. She could have found a way. There is always a way.
Truely already stayed with Janelle and Savannah at the trailer. Kody wasn’t there because he’s too precious to stay in a trailer. Meri has no young kids at her house so I can see why Truely wouldn’t want to stay over at her house.
With the scenes of Truely staying with Janelle and Savannah, it felt a lot like a kid spending the weekend with their non-custodial parent. Janelle tried SO HARD to make sure it was a good experience for Truely, that she had fun, so MAYBE she would want to come over and stay the night again. Kody has never put in half as much effort for any of his kids- Beyond Robyn's, of course.
Kody doesn't even stay with Meri!
@@rsvilla3130 Everyone knows that. Even if he did stay with Meri, he wouldn’t bring Truely with him because there are no kids in her house. Truely would be bored stiff.
Robyn wasn't actually that bad. I'm sure she was sick and miserable, like the millions of the rest of us that got it and felt horrible. However, in the hospital she's taking videos of herself and she doesn't even have oxygen on. If she had really been in a bad way she would have, at the very least, have had an oxygen tube on her face. Robyn lives her life from a fear based perspective. Her mind is always thinking of the worst possible scenario and when ANYTHING happens, she fears the worst. That's why she's been sooooo strict about all her covid rules. She was terrified that if she got it, she would die. That's also why Christine's leaving feels like a bomb going off to her and it's going to "affect generations" because she's automatically thinking worst case scenario. The twist to this is that Kody LIKES that he feels like Robyn NEEDS him. It makes him feel important. I'm sure Robyn likes the attention as well. So everything has become about her and Kody and they can't even understand that as part of a very large family, there are more members of it who don't live at their house than there are who do. They've both gotten to where they feel like King and Queen living in the castle on the hill and everyone else must come and pay tribute and honor to them. They BOTH could use a LOT of counseling!!! Is narcissism curable Dr Colarossi??? Are narcissists born or made?? If they are made by circumstances, can they be cured??
A narcissist has to seek treatment to be formally diagnosed, & as rare as that is, it’s more rare for them to change their behavior, according to Dr Ramani, who is an expert in the subject. She has a very popular, & insightful TH-cam channel. (Hope I spelled her name correctly.)
Watch Dr Ramani she is a specialist on Narcissism on TH-cam. The way she explains things is clear and excellent. She says Narcissist’s almost never change and only seek guidance when something else in their life goes wrong.
I wonder the same thing. Can narcissism be fixed/cured? I have heard that it cannot be fixed, that they begin manipulating the therapist and doing all kinds of deflection and then quit therapy altogether because THEY don’t have a problem. I have and have had, too many of them in my life from day one.
I've been a student of Malignant Narcissism for decades, after a family member fell victim to one in high school. It almost destroyed his marriage to his actual soul mate decades later, when the narcissist ensnared him again at a class reunion. I'm convinced Narcissists are born (not made); they are incapable of love or empathy, and their every thought is about how to manipulate everyone they can & cause them PAIN. They are Ted Bundys - psychopaths that pretend to be nice people, but who destroy everyone they have power over. Counselers in general believe they can be born OR made; I think the ones that are "made" are just using narcissist techniques of control & manipulation. Counselors recognize narcissists almost never go into counseling (they must control everything & nobody could know more than they do). Counseling wouldn't help anyway; nobody can fix perfect selfishness combined with a total inability to feel love or empathy.
Kody even said she came back from the hospital feeling better even tho she didn't even get admitted, treated or medicated in any way. Was she trying to prove she was right how serious Covid is? Or was to play the donsel in distress to get Kody to suffering and worried about her? Or both? Yet she didn't believe in masking or covid vaccine. Christine leaving was the best thing for Robyn. Generations of been the victim for her.
Robyn went to the ER but wasn’t even admitted. All drama for the cameras. I agree with your analysis of Kody.
Agree. I can't get over how Kody continually throws it in everyone's face how he can't be apart from Robyn's kids, when he neglects his other children for extended periods of time. He shows perpetual favoritism, then acts as though the ensuing jealousy is somehow a character flaw of the wife/child who is suffering. Kody never recognizes that it is his own failure to create security in their attachments to him. And RObyn is happy to reap the benefits of the favoritism. Neither of them takes responsibility or does anything to correct the situation.
Christina’s departure caused Kody a serious narcissistic injury and hell hath no fury like a narcissist scorned! Seeing her disengage and living her best life with a majority of the children supporting her publicly really puts the injury on full public display which is a nightmare for a narcissist. He will become worse and vindictive the more he is exposed. In the end he will probably be alone.
Good point
And the one thing you didn't mention is that Kody doesn't talk to his boys because they didn't respect his COVID rules and yet he cries when Aurora comes into the room while they all have active COVID. And he is totally acting empathetic towards HER isolation while she's standing in a room with active COVID.
My father is a narcissist who left my mother in 1976 for another woman. He forgot more birthdays than he ever remembered. Watching his child cry because his dad forgot his birthday was heartbreaking. I thought I was over my father's b.s. until he sent me a Christmas present out of the blue when I was 39. I lost my 💩. I also knew he didn't sent it, his new wife did. It brought back all the memories of forgotten birthdays and Christmases. It made me so angry and sick to my stomach.
I know the pain these kids are feeling. I don't say this to be uncaring, however they need to separate themselves from him, they need to walk away. They need to seek help for their pain and hurt. If they don't recognize their anger, it will stay with them for years. It's painful to recognize that of one people who's supposed to love you unconditionally doesn't but it's also not their fault. Narcissists are not capable of loving anyone including their own children. They are just sources of fuel. Robyn has trained her children to fuel kody's narcissism. Janelle and Christine have raised independent thinkers. That's always a bad thing for the narcissist. I wish these kids all the love and freedom they deserve.
That’s heartbreaking, I really feel for you. My son’s dad has never had the time of day for him and that about killed me as his mom. I’m so sorry you have a parent like that.
I actually agree that they need to walk away from Kody. It will curb some of the heartbreak. You can decide you are done and be free from so many disappointments.
Also dismissing Truly’s agency or recognizing her personhood is so devastating.
He asks about pajamas and she says she hasn’t decided if she wants to stay yet and that her mom said it was up to her to feel it out.
No doubt Truly voiced anxiety and Christine tried to help by reminding her she is in control (a fantastic message for a polygamist daughter to be given).
All Kody hears is THAT B*TCH is poisoning my property and trying to control me - so without missing a beat he responds “you can wear a t-shirt.”
Translation
You have no agency and you can not leave - your feelings are immaterial and I hate your mother and by extension you.
Kneel at my ego.
Bingo
Yep !
1:40 u know Christine, Kody, Robyn had trulys whole life to make her comfortable with staying with just Robyn.
I get the impression that Robyn represents excitement, libido and subservience, while the original wives represent commitment, sharing values in their chosen faith and duty.
His temperature was 99.8, he just makes me so angry. My heart broke for Gabe. My in-laws had 13 children and they never forgot a birthday.
Christine is aware that kody & robin are emotionally manipulative and she gave Truly the control to leave if they start being toxic.
Truely is too young to be put into that situation. Her mother should be protecting her from emotionally manipulative people. I love Christine, but in this case she needs to be a momma bear and stand up for her daughter.
@@cassieopia532 I had to allow my son to visit his porno addicted father... court said so.
At any age you should have the right to remove yourself from an adult making you uncomfortable.
Christine has lived the truth that kody and Robin are emotionally manipulative. Christine cannot stand in the way of her bio dad and stepmoms time with the child. But she can provide Truly with an unconditional promise that if Truly feels unsafe or pressured into weird situations she has the authority to say" no thanks I'd like to be where I'm safe"
Coping skills are not intuitive or involuntary.
It's not about picking sides
It's about not stressing out a child and forcing truly to like people who haven't ever been interested in her before . Don't blame Christine for making sure she gave Truly the control of her emotional boundaries.
@@rebeccajones4stories What a horrible situation for you and your son. I am sorry that happened.
@@cassieopia532 thank you. After he became an adult, my son chose to put some distance between them.
OMG - THANK YOU!!!!!!!! Kody and his behavior is so wrong! Poor Gabe - my heart just absolutely broke for him. And if Janelle doesn't do something I will be severely disappointed in her! There is ZERO reason to "forget" your son's birthday in this day and age. If he cared about anything or anyone but himself - and then crying telling Robyn's daughter that he misses her too - LORD! I only watch now to see Janelle leave!
Gabe, Gwen and Robyn's birthdays are all the same week. Kody knows
I'd like to address the heartbreaking scene with Gabriel. This is a young man who, if memory serves me, has continually over the seasons tried to get his father's love and attention but instead appears to only receive rejection from Kody.
In addition to heartbreak, I felt a lot of anger over the scene of Gabriel's hurt and disappointment. This young man was wearing his heart on his sleeve and I feel that TLC was exploiting him. TLC showed no resolutions. They just appeared to plug the scene in because it related to the over dramatization of Robyn and Kody having Covid.
There is no excuse for Kody to forget his son's birthday...none whatsoever! And what about Robyn (she says she "loves those boys")...did she wish him a happy birthday? We don't know; TLC never followed up. I'm interested to know if you, as a clinicsl psychologist, think I am way off base thinking TLC exploited Gabriel.
I had a different take when he was demanding loyalty. To me, I thought he was saying to Janelle “choose me over the kids and make them comply with my commandments and if they don’t then kick them out. If this happens I will see you as loyal to me”
What bugs me is, those children are not Janelle's alone they Kody and Janelle's children.
Completely agree. " Love should be multiplied not divided." The more you marry and the more kids you have the more you are dividing your time and someone is not going to get their needs met. And that can make you a very lousy spouse and father. He needs psych help.
kody doesn't choose to visit his grown children either. He's written off all his children except Robyn's.
Maybe Kodpiece could divide his love between his kids just once
This episode showed me that the only thing Cody is worried about is Robin and her family. He is only about himself.
I don't think it's about Robyn anymore....it's about her older kids
I wanted to hug Gabe so bad. He just wants his dad's love.
Can you imagine what these conversations are really like when the camera is turned off. We always get the impression that Kody is talking around the subject and not saying what he really means by "loyalty" . I am confident that off camera he has made it perfectly clear that loyalty means dropping Christine and taking his side as Robin and Merri both have . What we see is only the tip of iceberg I am sure.
yes, to Kody "loyalty is saying it was all Christine's fault. Janelle doesn't want to do that.
Facts!! It must be awful!!
I think he yells a lot more
The amount of times my motherly instinct has wanted to wanted to wrap arms around Gabriel and let him know how valuable he is… but then I remember he has christine and Janelle and they both seem like extremely loving mothers, so I know he’s covered.
But dang. Kody is blowing it, which is so sad because he has some really great kids who just want his love.
I'm pregnant with a little boy and I broke into tears watching Gabe. My poor husband had to come reassure me that Kody is an ass and a real father would never put his child in that position. I cannot imagine a PARENT allowing it to get that far over such a minor disagreement. Who escalates something so quickly with a my way or the highway attitude?!
I also find it interesting that he was more broken up about Aurora isolating than Robyn being sick
Regarding the missed birthday---I remember from the early years of the show that the Browns claimed to make a big deal about kids on their birthdays. They touted it as a way to give each kid special attention as an individual, despite being a part of this big mosh pit of children. If that was truly the case, I can see Kody forgetting a birthday altogether carrying a lot of weight, especially with an older kid in the family, such as Gabe.
I really think Robyn going to the hospital was specifically for the show. She wasn't put on oxygen, her tests were clear, she wasn't admitted to the hospital, and she was sent home. Covid sucks and makes you feel miserable, but I don't believe for a moment that Robyn's was severe enough to warrant going to the hospital.
The fact she didn't even have oxygen in the ER is what did it for me. COVID makes your oxygen levels drop and oxygen is needed so it couldn't have been to bad for the nurses nor doctors to at least have her hooked up while in the ER.
I think TLC wanted the hospital scenes.
@@elainelevasseur7213 of course they did. Robyn barely let’s them into her home. This is one of the few times they could capture any content from her at all.
My heart breaks for Gabriel; my mother was a narcissist like Kody, and the emotional scars never truly heal. Even if Gabe understands that narcissists are incapable of feeling love, he will always feel emotionally rejected by one of the two people in his life that should care about HIM more than they care about themselves. My mother died decades ago; I'm retired with a wonderful family with a great life. But to this day, I still feel sad - and hurt - whenever I think of my mother.
That’s really sad. I’m so sorry you’ve had to go through that. No one should!
I completely understand. I too feel the same way about a parent. Understanding is there but the sadness/disappointment never leaves.
Completely devastating for a child, I am sorry. Gabriel does have Janelle, who is doing a good job of being there for her children, and putting Kody's BS at arm's length.
Child of a narcissistic mother as well. I understand completely. Although my father's love and devotion mitigated the effects, it is still painful and my dad paid his own price for his loyalties too. I can see why Gabriel loves Christine so much because sadly, Janelle poo poos away the behavior of Kody so much, even to her children.
My sweet mother died 20yrs ago and I was left with my narc dad. Have never stopped wishing it was the other way around. Life is so unfair.
My heart broke in a million pieces when Gabe broke down. My gosh, that was heartbreaking. I cried right along with you, Gabe. How I wish I could have comforted you. I hope someone from the crew did.
The scene with Gabriel was the most heart wrenching thing ever! The scene at he hospital though, that really highlighted how ridiculous they are, it's their Covid derangement that had them there. A psyc ward may have been the place they needed to be. I'm sure they watch the season episodes. I wonder if they look back at the episodes, the things they've said, and are like-gosh, I was a real idiot right there...I can't believe I did that, or said that...man I'm a hypocrite. I really wonder.
The scene with Gabe was scripted and unnecessary , embarrassing to say the least, you want to solve a problem go to him privately and try to work it out not fishing for sympathy and a paycheck, who of the kids is next in line?
@@meggie423 Gabes tears looked pretty real to me. Most guys aren't going to want to be filmed crying...he seemed sincerely heart broken. Paedon recently did a q&a in which he says this show is not scripted.
@@asimi7 maybe not all but most, esp the Drama, TLC thrives on drama we all know that, there are a lot of gullible people who believe everything thats on T V , but this show is the poster child of disgusting
That is exactly what I got from this whole episode. In Kody's world it is all about him. The fact that he would call Gabriel to ask him about covid symptoms was ridiculous.
Like me Janelle is a non-confrontational introvert. When confronted with a narcissists emotional attack, we become silent and self-protective. But we don't miss a word. She hunched down in a protective posture and made her face impassive. She thought they had a good marriage and he gets in her face stating that they've had no marriage for years. She needs time to process what she heard and before she reacts. Kody was trying to scare her, make her break and promise him to be more like Robyn for him. She wasn't giving him the drama he was demanding. When she responds it will be decisive. She will deliver it calmly like Christine did and Kody won't know what hit him because it won't be the subservient behaviour he expects.
You are so right!
The way he physically leans into personal space and locks eye contact while spewing cruelty is so illustrative. Can you imagine what his emotional abuse looks like behind closed doors?
Once he feels like the non direct manipulation isn’t getting him his way he moves quite easily into dominant posture and cruelty.
You’re right - her curled body and non flinching face say so much about years of this specific routine.
I hear you, but while she's taking her time to process and react, he's breaking her/their children down, crushing them beneath his heel. That is my frustration with Janelle -- Kody is doing real, permanent emotional damage and her passivity and nonconfrontational approach is always coming at the expense of the children.
@@jessican4016 I hear you. Janelle has been fighting for her kids against Kody all through covid. Now she is hearing a direct attack what she thought her marriage was. He rejects her 'you're my best friend' olive branch too. She was trying to find a common ground to start talking their way out of this argument and he was rejecting it. She hears him say that he is not interested in polygamy any more. She knows that Robyn is the wife he will try to keep. Janelle was already half way out the door. She is getting organized, getting her financials in order and will divorce Kody too. PS: Since that lunch in autumn 2021, she has not spent any holidays with Kody and Robyn. She has spent them all with hers and Christine's kids. She has travelled a lot with Christine and alone. Actions speak volumes. I'm expecting to hear that she and Kody parted earlier this year even though she is still in Flagstaff. Janelle likes Flagstaff and Savannah wanted to graduate from high school there.
Can I get an AMEN!
Honestly, as someone who's watched from the beginning, I genuinely believe Janelle falls somewhere along the asexual spectrum or needs/wants very little emotional affection. Plain and simple.
She alludes to that heavily in the first session. It's the reason she is the only one who legitimately CHOSE this lifestyle. It was a win-win. She received everything she wanted: She gets the kids AND someone to help care for them, allowing her to work outside of the house for extended periods with a lot of alone time. She also got a husband to love, YET one who wouldn't always be around, which she would find exhausting. Freedom, independence, and autonomy -- yet with children and a husband? No other lifestyle could afford her that experience.
Everyone, whether man or woman, has different needs, and I don't think it's fair to use the needs of the average woman as a way of explaining Janelle's behavior or thought process.
I agree. Janelle chose this lifestyle for the independence and support. Kody comes 1 or 2× /week she gets friendship and some dick a few times a month she is good.
She would be all un if kody treated her kids better
Agreed, there is a legitimate relationship/sexual style that people have a hard time wrapping their heads around but I have long thought applied to Janelle... asexual and aromatic.
It could be. But she calls him Honey, and calls him her lover, so I’m more inclined to say that she simply adjust to the situation and the possibilities in front of her.
@@jetterasmussen6577 Yeah, but I didn't say that she doesn't love him. I believe she really did. And I think she was looking for love, but traditional relationships may have been too much for her -- too overwhelming. But he was her lover and her friend.
I don't think she needs as much from him as another woman may need. She desires a lot of space. And many of her needs just aren't met in a romantic relationship. It's hard to imagine when that isn't how our brains operate, but I've met similar women. It's kinda like people with very high libidos vs. ppl with very low. They both want s**, but the urge and frequency are different.
@@jetterasmussen6577who really knows, nobody
Kodys anger has become concerning. How long is it before his anger take a turn to actions that can’t be taken back?
I wonder what he's like when there are no cameras around, if he's comfortable enough getting in his current wife's face and screaming at his former wife, and is clearly financially, emotionally and verbally abusive to 3/4 of the women he's 'married' to; no one can tell me that he doesn't throw things against the wall and threaten violence if not act on it. I hope Janelle finds a way to heal from the past 30 years.
I had to laugh when Kody said that he considered checking himself into the hospital to be with Robyn. Does he think it’s like a hotel where you walk up to the desk and ask for a room?
That scene where he said he was crying when Aurora was standing across the room because they couldn’t spend time together, OMG! Sickening. They’re in the same house, across the room! And on the same show he’s so self involved with his Covid he forgets Gabriel’s birthday. It is pure narcissism. If he didn’t call Gabriel himself after he saw that on tv, he’s a lost cause!
As a kid, if my mom had told me I didn't have to stay at my dad's, I would have felt a million times safer in that space. If I had known I wasn't trapped there.
I also echo others, from the history of watching the show, what has been presented, is that Christine has asked for that before with Truly, and had her available with covid testing to go spend time. This is on Kody, from what has been presented.
I agree with everything you’ve said. That clip of Gabriel was the most heartbreaking thing I’ve ever seen on television. A million hugs went out to him at that moment, I can’t imagine how Janelle felt when she watched it. I thought it was very interesting that we didn’t get to see Kody’s reaction to it….Kody probably watched it and then refused to comment on it, or he blames Gabe for not reminding his it was his birthday.
He would just blame him and say that he caused the distance between them by not following his rules. Cody takes no blame for anything. He always turns it back to something the other person "didn't" do.
Several episodes ago Christine said that they were doing testing on Truly so she could go spend time with Kody and Robin but they weren’t taking her. Then Kody said they didn’t have a space for her and they had to figure out sleeping arrangements. So….
AND, if Janelle could make a space for her in a camper then why couldn’t Kody and Robin?!?
Just goes to show us monogamy is hard enough. Polygamy can't possibly work with so many people to keep up with. YES the thing with Aurora made me super angry also. Knowing how long he's been away from Gabe and other kids it's infuriating. That sobbing was not just about Gabes birthday it was much deeper.
I think there is something going on between Kody and Robyn's daughter. The way they both got choked up over trying to keep themselves apart while in the same house for a mere 10 days was just not normal.
With a child with severe depression and anxiety is see gabe hurting and needing help navigating his broken heart . As a mom I want to reach out to him and hug him telling him he’s going to be ok and it’s ok to seek help .
If you seen Gwen answer questions on patron she said that on the show Kody is nicer than in real life. He has an awful personality on camera and if that is nice Kody I do not want to see him off cameras. It is amazing these women stayed so long. Gwen also said that Robyn is actually worse in real life too. Christine did another interview recently where she revealed she wanted to leave in Vegas and Janelle told her to not leave until she felt like she could support herself. It would have been nice if Janelle had followed Christine's path before now and prepared to go.
And recently Janelle said she has nothing to show after all these years, nothing to leave her children and no house..this leads me to believe she is following her own advice to Christine at the time of this episode.. she is preparing her way and until she has what she needs to leave she will do and say what is needed. I think this is why people are confused about her behavior with Kody at that time(2021). She was ready but not prepared yet.
@@ilangirl8 she is not destitute🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@ilangirl8 I absolutely agree with you. I think she’s keeping her head down and getting her ducks in a row. At least I sure hope so.
The thing is though after Christine leaving Kody is never going to let Janelle have her name on anything without his name. He tried to use Janelle's housing situation to get Christine's house. He was going to make sure he had his name on it if Janelle bought it.
@@OuraniaAthena She only has to get an attorney and ask for back child support..I believe he would make a deal. JMO He tricked the wives into investing in CP and his and Robyn's house with the promise of homes on CP for all..deal fell through, now the wives are owed what they put into it back..especially Janelle, as I've read she contributed more in the past. JMO and would like to be corrected if I have it wrong.
I found it hilarious at the end of the show, he finally appears to become aware of how he has allowed his fear of Covid to control him for so long. Too little, too late. It also appears he may have had an epiphany, however, seeing the previews for next week, we see it was just a fleeing moment of self reflection. In next week's teaser, we again see the King of Narcissism back to his normal, pathetic self!
The scene with Gabriel made me cry. I completely understand how he feels and it was so heartbreaking to watch him break down like that. The scene with Kody in the truck was infuriating. Robyn could barely speak and he's obviously having zero issues complaining about not getting enough attention.
Your review is spot on. I wonder how many more seasons that viewers can stand to see his complete narcissism on display and hurting of all of his kids, despite their ages. He is SO infuriating. I struggled to even watch. This family needs severe intervention.
I thought the same thing when Aurora came up and Cody’s crying because he hasn’t seen her in 10 whole days I mean it was sad but seriously he hasn’t seen or spent time with his other kids in months. It also drives me bananas every time he refers to his kids with Janelle as “Janelle‘s kids”never their kids or his kids always Janelle‘s kids.
I don’t blame Janelle at all for being frustrated that Kody is now changing the way their marriages are structured. I want to say it was in an episode in the first season, Kody responded to the speculation that he ‘ran the wives’ and he made it very clear that the wives were very independent and made their own decisions. Now he’s wanting them to listen and obey.. uh no thank you!
Truely at 11 years old doesn't trust her dad. Let that sink in. Gabe birthday is 2 days after Robyn. Let that sink in. Maddie and his grandkids that he hasn't seen since 2019 wants to spend Thanksgiving with him "too many people have to check statistics". Let thatbsink in. Gabe a month after been forgotten is not welcomed to Kody house unless he makes emmends. Let that sink in. Mykelty that worships Robyn was there for 2 days she can come over. I'm tired of this sink in.
Thank you for your commentary, I really appreciate hearing your take on things! It absolutely broke my heart to see Gabriel break down over Kody's last slight of him. These kids are human beings with feelings, and they are being so hurt. I just hope they have someone to talk to who can help them understand how this is Kody who is unable to have a healthy relationship, and that they are so worthy of being loved and cherished!
He’s got NPD. He’s been able to manage his facade for years because he received so much fuel from four wives and young children. Since Christine’s rejection of him his narcissism is under serious duress for the first time. It can’t manage all the challenges (like the challenges from adult children) and so the facade we’ve seen for years is showing cracks. Because Janelle won’t join the anti-Christine band wagon she is the enemy and is being devalued in front of us. Kody has shown that even his golden girl, Robyn, isn’t as important to him as he is. His young daughter innately senses there is something not right about her father. She has no words for it but subconsciously knows he has no empathy. That he is essentially a robot mimicking human emotions. It’s becoming more obvious because he can no longer maintain his facade. Kody, an unaware narcissist, actually thinks he is a great dad, a great husband and a great person. His narcissism tells him so.
Go to HG Tudor’s site to learn all about narcissism. He is a diagnosed, self aware narcissist/psychopath hybrid. It’s the best education you’ll ever get on the topic.
Christine told Kody to pick up Truly prior to her move but he never did. She mentions that several times. Jody never made the effort and Christine tried to get him to and told him to. Her only thing was to provide Truly her own bed and space so she is able to have privacy when she needs it.
Let us not forget that when Gabriel and Janelle had come down with Covid a while ago, it was shown that Kody never reached out or showed concern for them. I believe because Kody had pressed upon Christine that he was preparing a room for Truly in Robyn's house and wanted her to stay there when she visited because Kody lived there.
Totally agree! I was so angry at Kody. I am a Mom I so wanted to hug Gab! I can’t imagine how the other kids felt when they saw Kody’s reaction to Aurora! They all must have felt sad, angry but also vindicated b/c this is exactly what they and their mom’s have been saying for a long time. By the way while Robyn was Ill she was not the deathly ill they made out. No oxygen, no cardiac monitor. All proved out by what the doctor said. Robyn I think is hypochondriacal. Actually if there is more about Robyn and Kody I will turn it off. Honestly this episode did it for me. I am only interested in Christine, Janelle and their kids. I want to see them succeed and grow as humans. I just hope the kids can overcome some of these issues. They appear to. A testiment to their mom’s and themselves. Great kids. Also I question the editing, why no discussion about Kody’s behavior and gab’s grief?
Wow great observation about Robyn's daughter and Kody wanting to spend time with her and not Gabe. It is so sad to see the hurt Gabe is going through because he wants to be around his dad
I agree 100%! I also think that since Gabe and Jenelle have such a close relationship, I suspect he told his mom what he was thinking about his disappointment in his father. Which led Janelle to call Cody and Inform him as to what was going on… There’s no way Cody suddenly remembered Gabe’s birthday and called him on his own. Just my thoughts in my opinion and what might’ve happened behind the scenes. So sad. 😢
Agreed
@@robinperini5226 Additionally, I saw on another, TH-cam video that it’s customary in polygamy societies for the fathers to oust their sons from the nest, because their sons are perceived as competition for other young future bride. If this is a common practice as shared, by another blogger, it would also explain why Cody is so mean to his boys, including Gabe. Just a thought.
Christine really tried. It was kody not spending time with her children that was the catalyst to the divorce.
I thought that as well, I’m like WOW he’s crying for Robin’s older daughter?! When he talks of his other children ESPECIALLY Truly he doesn’t cry!
My ❤️ broke when Gabriel was crying. Somebody give that kid a big hug and some attention!
I was thinking if I were the camera person or producer in that segment I wouldn't have been able to stop myself from giving him a tissue and a hug
I think you are dead on with this all! My father is kody. I'm 49 and everyone else in my family is wealthy and well established. Then there's me....a single mother making it all work somehow. I'm also someone who needs to speak about my feelings and my father c ant be bothered with my "drama"which really is only wanting his love. Which I never really express but if I do I'm shut down. My kids and I can't travel to see him often(he's in Florida) we are in Rhode ISLAND. So my kids aren't comfortable around him. Last summer we met up on his yearly visit to see family in RI and because we were all awkward he stopped talking to us.(my son )is on the spectrum (19)and eye contact is hard for him. My father takes it as a snub because all that (depression,spectrum)stuff is bs to him. Sorry I had to rant because kody brings this all to the surface for me. I understand gabe and also want to hug him. It hurts that I haven't spoken to my father in a year. I truly tried to reach out but he goes ghost on us. While my well to do brother is his best buddy. I lost my mother 4 years ago and my father didn't even bother to come to her funeral. Yet said he was sad because she was his first love. Me me me.....I love him and it hurts. Yet I hate the person he is. And I'm glad I'm close to my kids and not a total asshat like him. Phew....th that felt good. Keep up the great work. You help me so much!! Th ty ty
Heather, idk you, but I can empathize with your relationship with your father immensely. I'm 41, and from my experience with my narc father... is that even if you have success, they'll always move the goalposts. Children often internalize this "disappointment", and believe it's their fault (I sure did). But, when you're female and have a narcissistic father, it can be hard to trust men ;
Yes, the over-the-top reaction with Robyn’s daughter made me sick. Where’s that with his other kids? I couldn’t believe it!
Yep… whatever is good for Kody is what Kody does. Robyn and her kids feed his ego. My heart has been breaking all season for gabe. And I’m sure he’s representative of many of the older kids. So sad
You hit the nail on the head on every issue! Question: what future emotional and psychological issues do you see potentially happening with Robyn's kids if she continues in her relationship with Kody? I see numerous warning signs that they are going to be messed-up as adults. Codependency, anxiety, lack of confidence, depression ... just to name a few on a severe level. The foundation being laid for their lack of life skills is hard to watch.
If you didn’t cry for Gabe you’re a rock.
That is all
I Pray for this young man and hope he’s able to receive Concealing. May his Parents realize Gabriel is hurting and Deserves to be LOVED
To any other newcomers to Sister Wives, the production team is notorious for editing an episode into a patchwork quilt.
Truely appears to be visiting Robyn's house after father's day (which was written in chalk on the sidewalk) and before the 4th of July (all the Uncle Sam themed figurines on the hallway table). It doesn't matter if the next seen shows trick-or-treating. That's just the magic of tv.
As Christine so beautifully pointed out, when you only hear what one person says and the only half of the conversation is cut off. We don't know how Truely came to understand that staying overnight was up to her. Maybe she didn't want to go? The older kids have articulated they don't feel welcomed. Ariella tried to pick up Truely and Truely was polite enough not to push her away, while Kody and Robyn smile and soak up the adorableness of an out of control 5 year old they treat like a toddler.
Look at the kids Christine primarily raised and compare them to Robyn's kids. Who is sending underlying messages that the your extended family and the world is not safe. It's not Christine, that's for sure.
Wow, until you said it I had not realized that Kody made Robyn's' visit to the hospital all about him. Robyns' doctor sent her to the hospital for tests and assessment. Robyn complained that they didn't take her to her room. She did not need a room. Robyn was assessed as an out-patient. They did the tests and monitored her for a while before sending her home. That's good medical treatment. Yes, there were all sick. Yes, they were feeling vulnerable. Yes, I am glad that they have all recovered. However, Kody's decisions to discard ALL covid precautions was dumb. They are not vaccinated. They can get it again. The vaccines are not perfect but they can prevent death which is what Robyn and Kody are most afraid of. His all-or-nothing approach to just everything destroys the good things in his life and in his family.
Yeah, I watched this wondering how they can still be so scared about COVID months after the vaccine became widely available. I could understand if they were concerned about their kids, but they themselves should've been fine--if vaccinated.
I think your assessment of Kody is dead on! I do not think you’re being over critical. My husband & I watch this together and are just appalled at how he treats his children! My heart just broke for Gabriel. Thankfully both Christine’s and Janelle’s kids have sensitive and loving mothers to support them emotionally
Love the channel. I think what you’re missing with Truely is 16 previous seasons. You can’t scramble to create a bond in the months prior to a divorce if you felt neglected or unsafe for years. Not sure if you know that Truely nearly died of kidney failure bc of Kody’s neglect when she was a bitty kid, or if you’ve seen the episode where Kody tried teaching Truely to ride her bike or even Ariella’s birthday party last season-you can’t make up for a lifetime of neglect/favoritism/being treated as an extension of your disfavored mom in a few months. Frankly, I’m not sure why it would be good for Truely’s self-esteem to try to jumpstart comfort and a bond that isn’t there. Letting the adults in your life benefit from your unflagging affection when they don’t deserve it messes you up for adult relationships!
I agree with you completely. Christine told Kody she would get Truly tested weekly so Kody could get her and make her feel more comfortable until she moved . Kody still made excuses and either didn't get her or only got her a couple hours
EXACTLY! Kody is the kind of parent who destroys his childrens’ mental and sometimes physical health. If Truely doesn’t want to spend the night at his house, we should say more than “how sad they haven’t bonded.” I sincerely hope it means she knows the difference between someone who treats her nice and someone who doesn’t AND she doesn’t feel pressured to do stay anywhere or do anything if she doesn’t want to protect a man’s feelings. We (the channel) might stop talking like this is a normal divorce btwn nice people who should have worked it out and accept the *actual* tragic reality, which is that Kody is a bad person, this is going to mess his kids up no matter what, and it’s a good idea-and possibly life-saving-for the girls NOT to learn to be agreeable to whatever Kody wants/feels they deserve and treat him like he’s acting normal/decent in return. Truely setting boundaries with Kody will give her a foundation for making good choices when it comes to making friends and choosing partners in the future.
I totally agree with you.. Kody was Only concerned about himself… comparing his symptoms to Robyn’s, and my heart broke for Gabe… he seemed so devastated.. as a momma my heart just broke..❤😢
It just shows the overall immaturity of the adults. The relationship between them all is just sick.
I like most of your take on Kody Brown. The addition of your wife to the watch the episode stream works nicely.
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I missed that but see it now, Kody was so focused on how much difficulty he was having being alone, dealing with all of HIS emotions. I remeber listening to it but now that you called it out....just wow. Like no matter how much editing is done, most of what we're watching is true, and did happen.
My heart just broke for Gabe, a grown male adult crying on TV for his dad. All of Janelles kids seem to be kind and good hearted. She did a great job raising these boys that want that family bond so badly, specially with their dad. I do hope they can see its not about them, their dad is a narcissist.
It made me sick when Kody was talking about how much they missed each other (Robyn's kids) while they were sick. Hearing how "hard" it was for them to be away for a few days (though in the same house)...hmmm imagine his other kids? through the whole covid thing, Isabelle going through all her surgery? Truly, being neglected by Kody because he "didn't want to see Christine" so she didnt get to spendntime w her dad... just gross. I'd be so disgusted with my husband if he treated my kids that way, and if they really are sister wives wouldn't they look after each other in that way? Making sure he kept good connections with his kids and also sister wives.
Christine was the only one verbalizing what she needed
Kody called Garrison to make sure other people knew he was “suffering.” He’s disgusting. Hopefully his sons will give their kids the dad they were denied.
It is so amazing watching this show from the beginning and he seemed like he cared about his wives and children... then enters Robyn and he drops them like potatoes. I couldn't even imagine the devastation. I was with a diagnosed narc, but couldn't imagine it on such a large scale.
I agree with you completely. Some of his other children will be heart broken after seeing the section with Breanna.
Yes...kody was in tears because he couldn't I guess hug Breanna only see her...what? He didn't see his other kids for months during and after covid and this upset him...my take on ALL OF Robin's relationships with Kody is almost cringe like.
Your explanation is PERFECT. It's exactly what is happening. Kody and Robyn will stretch out the sisters wives leaving the relationship for as long as possible to make money off the viewers. We really need to BOYCOT this program and support a show with the Wives and Children without Kody's involvement. A program called "Free at Last:Life after Kody".
Seeing Gabe’s pain broke my Mama heart. THAT alone should be reason enough for Janelle to leave. Also, I would love to see other polygamist families discuss this whole mess.
Look at the sick relationship between Kody and Robyn's oldest daughters. He is photographed kissing Breanna on the mouth. This is the guy who didn't kiss Christine until they were married, who told his kids in a 2014 episode that kissing on the mouth exchanges hormones which are sexually stimulating, and then we have seen the photo of him kissing Breanna. His daughter, albeit adopted, but still his daughter. And then we heard how he and Aurora were crying because they were separated for 10 days of quarantine. They were all in the same house.
His relationship with those girls is SICK. It's even worse than what he has done to his other children.
Those relationships are very creepy
Not if he's prepping them to be his future wives. This is actually popular in polygamy marriages with "stepchildren" I've seen it happen.
Good point. I just started following the show again & that is extremely disturbing!
@@artphotognh True. However, Kody is doing as many polygamist men do. They illuminate the children who are no longer "loyal". Male children are looked at as competition once they reach a certain age. The "older" wives are no longer useful not only in the fact they can't have more children for him but they refused to help him financially. Mary, he already told her to get lost, Jenelle said I'm keeping my money so she is gone to him and Christine kept her money. It's time to find new young wives so he can groom. He is playing the head of the household polygamist card 100%. It's all about him.
I meant eliminate.
Truly and Janelle have a strong bond. It would have been a far healthier situation to begin these "visits"
Seeing how heartbroken Gabe is was absolutely shattering. The fact that Kody is not affected by that is mind blowing.
I love this guy's passion. Yes, I wish he had watched the earlier episodes to gain some valuable background, but he is still the best of all SW commentators. He's authentic, fair, caring & unafraid to admit a miss. I learn much about interpersonal relationships from David & I sincerely thank him for these videos.