Our 2024 Ineos Grenadier Finally Arrived And It's As Strange And Epic As I Thought!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.พ. 2024
- The Ineos Grenadier is more than just a re-imagined Land Rover Defender, it's an SUV that puts off-roading and a boxy cabin ahead of just about every other priority. Acceleration? It's slow. Braking? Plan ahead. Fuel economy? It has "some MPGs." Steering? Think of that more like an opportunity for an upper body workout. What then is the appeal? You mean, aside from it looking like an epic off-road bread van? That would be the engineering behind it all.
The Grenadier sports a body on frame design, solid axles with coil springs, a 2-speed Tremec transfer case with a lockable true center differential, front and rear lockers (of course), an available front and rear winch, and more buttons and switches on the dashboard than a 737.
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The best thing about Alex is that he lacks any detectable amount of pretension in his reviews. I doubt he has any at all, and that is a refreshing quality in this corner of the internet especially.
Exactly right - the dude just loves what he does.
His bias towards Hyundai and Kia is especially obvious
Indeed, no narcissism which is so overwhelming these days
@@daweed980 Hyundai & Kia make some pretty good cars nowadays.
I really liked his review. He covered some details not everyone does. However, things like axle and suspension deserve more coverage. That steering comes from a bomb proof system. Same color that we ordered as well.
You know, despite being an anachronism in many ways (shape, handling, drivetrain, manual safari glass, gate, lack of automation) this thing has what so many other vehicles don't: personality. The designers clearly knew exactly what they were trying to build, and they made intentional sacrifices to do it. Even if this vehicle is not for me (I'm more of the Subaru variety of off-roading/winter-roading), I just love that it's not like everything else. I mean, look at all the buttons and switches. It's just its own thing, and in these homogenous 2020s, that's so great.
Да! Ему 70 лет.
The Grenadier is fantastic!! It's everything the new Land Rover Defender SHOULD have been. I think my only disappointment with it is the glaring lack of a manual transmission, at any trim level. I really kind of despise the cheap, plastic BMW auto shifter sticking out of the center console. It's even more out of place when you notice there's a manual e-brake and manual transfer case shift lever on either side of it. Aside from that, the Grenadier is fantastic!! The aircraft-style switches are awesome!!
My thoughts exactly!
Tractor-like ride quality and those gigantic cluster and roof buttons would be exactly why I would love to get one of these 😂. Such a cool vehicle!
Let me tell ya, tractors have a smooth ride.
I would love an explanation of what all these differentials and lockers do, and examples of when you use them. A great off-road video would be awesome. This is a wild weird vehicle. Its Wonderfull.
Seconding this!
The differential is the pumpkin looking thing in the middle of the axle. It allows the wheels to turn at different speeds. When you are turning a corner, the outside wheel travels a further distance than the inside wheel. A locker "Locks" the axle. When the axle is locked, both wheels turn at the identical speed. This reduces wheel slip and increases traction. Hope that helps.
Congrats on the new Grenadier ❤ I would definitely want to see you meet up with TFL at their ranch to see that baby off-road. That would be awesome !!!
I know this is just ridiculous but that coloured steering wheel just tops it off like the cherry on a cake. Gorgeous. I like this thing.
I just noticed the color while you’re driving. That’s a beautiful green! Very nice spec, Alex.
That toot button ♥️😂♥️😂
i had to rewind and look at that several times ..made me laugh💯😂
Alex’s transformation into a Cotswolds sheep farmer was so gradual that I didn’t notice-until he got himself a modern-day Defender. Congratulations on the purchase. All that’s left is to pull up sticks and move the entire Auto Buyers Guide crew to southwestern England!
Can’t believe you can already get these here.
The power outlets and accessories on the exterior is a very nice touch.
Very cool. Looks like an overlander's dream.
As usual, an AMAZING amount of information! Thank you! Looking forward to your meet up with TFL!
Alex, After the Mitsubishi Outlander Plug-in disappointment/debacle, is it safe to say you will be choosing your own long-term vehicles from now on? 😉 With Ineos introducing another solid front axle 4X4 to our market to compete with high end Wranglers, Toyota really has no excuse to deny us their real deal 70 Series. 🤩🤩
Ineos looks old but it has modern safety certification that would pass american market 70 series on the other hand is just an old vehicle facelifted and sold new not only that that it will get severe criticism with american journalist and damage brand name just like the old suzuki samurai hence you can't have suzuki jimny too🤣
Congrats, Alex! I think you're gonna love it. We LOVE ours! Can't wait to get ours out into the forests more often once my day job settles down. Looking forward to seeing more content from you on the Grenadier. There are very few quality content creators making Grenadier content right now. Keep up the great work!
Thanks. Excellent review as usual. You speak as if you are reading off a teleprompter and attention to detail is admirable. Love your work Alex!
Maybe one day I can afford a teleprompter 😅 for now it’s just my twisted brain and many, many, many takes to get it right
Its so funny how everyone completely dogged the mpg of GX 460 being~(16-18), when there are multiple rigs that are “6 cylinders” getting the same or worse mpg than the 4.6 V8.
About 20MPG highway if you go for the pre-facelift (2010-2013) models.
Congrats, it's way cool, hope you love it!
Thanks for sharing your unique vehicle.
You seem very knowledgeable. I would like if you could continue to compare and contrast to other vehicles like the G wagon or Toyota LC. Thanks
Nice to see a preview of what I ordered just a month ago! Green as well with the off road option and back half roof rack. I look forward to a real factory off road vehicle with lockers @ both ends!
You offered some details that so many others have not. Well done!
Great and honest review, Alex. Keep up the great work!
Mine is do in Q4 this year mine is the same color and everything as yours! super excited
Very cool truck! I think they've done amazing job, balancing, off-road capability and reasonable drivability! And like you said several times, it's very cool!! Great review!!
A really good honest review, thanks !!
Great stuff, maybe your best video yet!!
What an enjoyable and entertaining video. Yummy, Boxy, Green, Off Road Champion of a purchase. An exclusive, niche offering with distinctive and appealing features to be sure. If you have the time and inclination to compare the capabilities and features with TFL, that would certainly be a special treat for eveyone. That boxy profile sure looks nice. Excellent work Alex.
Very jealous! Congratulations and enjoy!!
I saw a trailer with 6-8 of these on the NJ turnpike and I had no idea what they were. I thought they were restomod defensers.
I live in NJ and probably going to PA possibly
It's gorgeous!
Alex, you're like a kid on Christmas morning with this vehicle. This vehicle is fitting for you. My favorite part- the toot button.
Fantastic presentation.
I absolutely can not wait to get one.
Congrats, Alex! Enjoy it! It’s ideal for your property, and future content.
Whenever it’s time to replace your tires, consider getting a set of the AEV Saltos wheels.
Looks like Ineos sorted out the towing option problems, first I've seen with NA tow receiver installed. Congrats and cheers. Look forward to more follow up on this as you get used to it. Mine is...somewhere.
What a beautiful vehicle! I love the color. I've wanted one of these since I first saw the concept several years ago. It's got everything that's lacking in 99% of modern vehicles; character, personality, authenticity. No cookie cutter/design-by-committee here. Looking forward to future videos.
They just opened one here in St Petersburg Florida. I was wondering what it was now I know. Looks so much like a G Wagon. Great introduction
Great review to the point that I am going to get one this year.
Very cool car. Love the review.
Dream car! Please make a Grenadier series keeping us informed about ownership and mods!
Great review! I took delivery of mine at the end of December, with over 4200 miles so far. We’re doing a Grenadier get together Feb 24 in Sutter Creek at a vineyard. Would love if you joined us! (Free wine tasting, bring a lunch, bring the family, offroad tour of the vineyard!)
I want one of these so bad. I hope this SUV sells well here in the states so that they bring over the truck version or the Diesel engine at a minimum!
Alex likes blowing those horns.
British Racing Green? Lucas Prince of Darkness included? A meetup with TFL. That would be fun. I will be interested in the future updates of this new addition to the family.
This one is all Bosch Princess of Darkness LOL
This one is all Bosch Princess of Darkness LOL
I'd love to see an interior night picture of the center and overhead consoles. I love the aircraft feel of the interior. Thanks for sharing.
This thing is f’n cool!
TFL collab for sure !
Living the dream
Beautiful ❤🎉
I was sold once you mentioned "Safari windows"!!!
To protect the small rear door Ineos installed a rubber cushion on the interior of the large rear door. Congrats on the new purchase.
What an interesting vehicle!
Great review. You really cover a lot of information with a natural fluid style.
See how you feel about the steering once you forget about it. It’s slow, not imprecise, so if you make a small correction, just let it do its thing, don’t get impatient and give it more, that just leads to the back and forth with the wheel. It actually holds its line very well and requires little intervention.
It does self center, as illustrated in your split screen driving. It needs you to drive it back about the last quarter turn but that’s really what a driver should be doing anyway. My RX-8 had great steering but didn’t self center all the way either. However, low speed tight car park manoeuvres do require more effort to spin it back to center and you need all the lock you can get in the Grenadier so that does suck a bit.😊
I think it was your review of the 2015 TRD Pro 4Runner that inspired me to get that truck almost 10 years ago. Now I'm going for the new Land Cruiser.
Alex is In love! Enjoy it, sir.
It's rare today to see an interior that actually has buttons and switches. I like it. They should offer some optional towing mirrors
with a bmw engine it definitely won’t be reliable. or tow much more than a jetski or lawnmower trailer
Having spent more than 45 years in aircraft cockpits, the switchgear and overhead panel alone makes me want one. If I could afford one (being retired, old, and feeble)... All I would hope for would be an improvement in steering feel and self-centering. Otherwise, this is as close to my ideal daily driver. Actually, it looks like something 10-year-old me might have doodled in grade school... And I love that. And, considering the engineering, build quality, and components... I'd say it is a decent value for the money. And it's waaaaay cool. ;)
Great Choice
I think having the big barn door open first would have been more useful. I would more often put something large in the back than use the smaller awkward opening
Great review!! How much room is there with the rear seats folded down? Can you lay down in the back.
nicre one Alex
If that is BMW’s best B58 I6 dialed down to 280 hp, it might last 1 million miles 😂
You’ll need to change gaskets every 10 years though🙂
Can't wait for a real off-roading review.
I would like to see a video of a Grenadier in a parking lot. How much space does it need? Can you park between cars in a busy parking lot?
Also, I would like to see it driving in a town/city.
Another thing... Could you demonstrate/visualize the ground clearance? Maybe drive over some measured cardboard pieces or something.
Awesome, Alex! Maybe get some vinyl wrap on the interior gloss plastic before thet start to pick up scratches. I love this thing, I'm a Jeep LJ owner and I HATE the newer Wranglers (JK and JL). This is a dream upgrade.
I love that steering wheel.
tuff, pretty, vintage yet techy. luv the basic looking wheels. it's a frankenstein vehicle, yet it works.
You dont steer it…..you man the helm!
What a great suv, in the land of me too styling with plastic bumpers that don't even protect the body, this is a refreshingly traditional suv. Only wish it had an analog speedo and tach. Makes the new defender look like a station wagon in comparison.
I saw 6 of these being delivered at the Land Rover dealership in Katy, TX
I was waiting for the part that I say " I want one of those". It never came. Good Luck with your new toy.
Alex, first off great review. The best I’ve seen on the this vehicle. Second, how tall are you? I am curious if I will be comfortable in there.
nice color
I wish I had an excuse to buy this thing, it looks so cool
Love that green color!
I really like the design of the grenadier. Always like the g wagon and defenders. Have owned a series 1 and 2 discovery. I'd say it reminds me more of an old discovery than a wrangler but idk about all the off-road stuff you said, sounds cool though. Have taken both my discovery off-road along with a durango lol but the land rover was hard to beat imo. Now have a new 4runner limited which I love. I like pretty much everything about that grenadier except no center speedometer and like you said the pop off safari windows although owned a c4 lt1 corvette with a targa top, kinda the same thing. Mostly do highway driving so idk if this specific suv would appeal to me besides the styling.
I own a Jeep Gladiator Rubicon currently. I've been following the Grenadier extremely closely. There's so much I love here. There's also a lot of stuff that the industry solved long ago and makes you scratch your head make it here. Also some features just seem unfinished. Overall though... I hope their order books stay full. I think this will improve greatly over time and with aftermarket support.
I LOVE IT. I REALLY DO. How do you feel about parts availability and reliability? Will all BMW shops work on them also?
Saw one in a car park & it took the guy about 5 , 3 point turns to get out. like driving a tank !
Very cool old fashion aircraft controls. Amusing a small startup did this first while everyone is infatuated with touchscreens.
Probably one of the best car reviews I’ve come across. Thank you for being honest about the goods and the bads of this vehicle
That steering ratio looks like 1000:1 haha. You need to get a ball mount for it next!
Love this thing, but the fact they let it roll off the line with that dainty Bimmer shifter is unforgivable. Can something be trivial and unforgivable simultaneously?
🙉🙊🙈😁
According to another video I saw, Ineos said that keeping the shifter made it significantly easier to slot the BMW powertrain into the vehicle. Apparently it would have been difficult and surprisingly technical to build the truck with a different shifter. Ineos seemed pretty disappointed about it too, lol.
Nice crew bag. Luggage work 😃
some of the best built defenders were made in south africa in the 2000s using bmw straight 6s, tho i believe only manual gearbox
Hi Alex! Congrats on the purchase. I was just wondering about the lack of tread plates on the fenders. Are those merely just expensive pretty stickers or does their specification include any bolstering underneath for greater load bearing?
It will be interesting to see what the resell value is in a few years. I would suppose it will depend on the reliability over time and the cost to own. I suppose I won’t trade in my tractor for the Grenadier until they put a rear 3pt hitch and a pto drive shaft 😂. Congratulations on your new truck.
Nice! I'm curious what the cargo area height dimension is?
No traditional instrument cluster a very very odd choice and literally centralizing that function to me a major miss. I'm sure the excuse is going to be but you can better see straight ahead in off-roading conditions, but... They have thought of so many things so the misses are glaring. I rate the exterior a 9.0 (10.0 for ultra cool factor) -- odd duck items being such things as the prop rod, and the wider portion of the rear swing doors being on the wrong side for 3/4 of the world's market, opening against/blocking the curb for on street parking/loading situations. Beats the heck out of the outgoing Lexus GX Etc however. I would also opt for a regular old school tilt/slide sunroof,.. for one thing, the driver or passenger (when stationary of course) could stand up and surveil their wild (of course) surroundings. I would rate the interior about a 6.0. Mechanically, BMW's 6 is legendary, but in this application too bad not an inline diesel -- would much better fit the image and purported mission of this vehicle, and bode much better for reliability and longevity.
I would rather jave a 1994 Land Rover Defender 90 with the V8, 5spd manual, and soft top in bright yellow. I saw such a vehicle at a dealership in hogh school and have always wanted one ever since.
Alex, What was it like to drive from California to your home one the interstate? Is it an easy drive, or do you constantly have to work the wheel to keep it going straight? Thanks!
Really cool vehicle Alex, curious on how the headlights shine at night?
The headlights are fantastic, some of the best IMHO
Did the fix the tiny drivers wheel well for 2024? I'm 6' 1" with size 14 feet and I could not use the pedals.
I just took delivery of my Grenadier. I spec'd the tow package and aux power switch gear, but mine was delivered without the tow pkg. or NATO outlet. Dealer said it was coming later for North America, but you have both! Any idea what's going on?
This thing is goign to turtle like crazy lol!! Better get a BIG winch.
You can get 2nd battery and inverter as stock option.
Dang if I was the richest man in Britain, I'd probably do something similar, albeit with a XJ Cherokee. How absolutely fantastic
Traders Joes tea, good taste
The 1060s was the last time I drove one but this seems to be roomier than a Land Rover, and you seem to have gobs of headroom. And, thank goodness it doesn't have a modern Land Rover engine and Lucas electronics.