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Not a snorkel, not water proof. What you're looking at it a raised air intake to keep dust out. It comes standard with 33 inch tires, but can take up to 35 with a 2 inch lift and a very minor mod to the front part of the front wheel well. The Grinadier is not a rock crawler but still had great articulation. It's a purpose built overland wagon made to last a long time. These things are awesome. Way better than the original old school Defenders, which although tough, are wrattle trap farm trucks that happen to also look cool. There are pros and cons, but overall, well done.
265 is not a 33
Correction... 31's.
It’s a retro Defender with a B58, what’s not to love. This thing is so cool!
I retract my previous statement. The standard tires are 31's, not 33's.
Thank you for the video, but……….. when you focus on switches and the “tool belt” and don’t acknowledge the robustness of the frame and the cardon front axles and full floating rear axles, high pinion clearance…….. then complain about the price it demonstrates that you not only don’t know what the Grenadier is it shows you don’t know what your jeeps lack. Watch “Dirtbox Overland’s” review and watch Ronny Dahl’s series of not review but driving, modifying and touring the Grenadier. $76,500+- gives you everything, anymore is junk that doesn’t advance the purpose of the Grenadier, heated seats pfufff.
Yeah, Ronny Dahl is putting that thing through its paces.
Casey 250 is a poser
Love this thing. Retro aesthetic yet fully featured and well thought out. Seen a couple in the Toronto area putting around and they look awesome.
Ready for zombie apocalypse. Those exterior door rails are where you mount your rocket launchers and machine guns
Those Recaro seats are the most comfortable SUV seats I’ve ever sat in!
My highly mod Jeep JL days may be numbered! This thing looks awsome!
If Jeep doesn't take note of this, then they will loose customers like myself.
Great video as always
Won’t regret it.
Shout out to Alu-Cab being a proudly South African company!!!
Loved this review Casey! Very well done. I might have one of these in my future in the next couple years 😉
The rails on the doors are called "airline rails". They are used in cargo planes to secure the cargo.
The walk around the stationary truck was done 6 months ago by everyone. I was kinda hoping to see some on/off road testing. Ya know gove us a reason why to buy it over the cheaper Rubicon or Bronco w the factory 35s.
I keep saying that jeep needs to make a permanent hard top capable of taking roof top tents. Going more to a overlanding community.
I am not in the market but I am curious about the features of the Grenadier. Thanks Casey for the review.
nice seen a few on the road like the looks , soild axles ! a basic utilitarian defender , not a 3 row luxury family school bus with independent rear axle for that smooth ride and leg road for the 3rd row no need for air suspension
I can't wait until one of my buddies gets one of these so I can go wheeling with him :)
waiting for the first person to put a bmw z4/supra manual behind one of these
Super cool rig! They should change the gear selector to look like the control stick of a fighter jet. Ha
I have been eying this vehicle for a while and would be really interested to see another review in six months, as you mentioned.
Great vid. I’d love to know real world mpgs with it loaded like that. Not 55 mph on a flat highway. Mix it up- stop and go, highway at 70 mph in the mountains, low range crawling, high range dirt roads. Given the not huge fuel tank and rather poor EPA numbers before an mods or loaded, this would be extremely useful data to have. Maybe a future vid?
Most reviews I’ve seen have it between 14-17 mpg
@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 i haven’t seen any modded tho. Having a modded Jeep Gladiator I know that effect. Lol. You seen anyone give numbers modded with RTT, winch and stuff all over the outside? I’m guessing 14 or maybe even slightly less since EPA is 16. It’s gonna suffer the same problem as Jeeps with that windshield and front- trying to move a box through the air at speed. Lol
I've been in a few of these, very nice. I especially like the quartermaster edition. One thing I'm still trying to figure out is the frames come in at least 3 different colour's. Black, Red, and white.
I was in a Cap It store today!
Comparing the IG to a Jeep is a fools errand. These are completely different vehicles marketed and aimed at completely different buyers and tasks. The IG will be a great overland vehicle. The Jeep is a good vehicle as well. It’s about the right tool for the job.
You mentioned Doug’s video - this is WAY better than his, but that’s b/c you guys actually get out off-road and know what you’re looking at. And you didn’t even get to the fun part underneath!
I have driven one. I'll stick with my jeep thanks.
My Honda s2000 has the service location for the hood prop too!
All the switchs up there looks cool. but i like them lower down, don't want to put a kink in my neck, but has some nice features
Those are only diff locks, wading, downhill descent, aux power - stuff you only touch a couple of times in any given run, and basically while you’re stationary - you don’t want those junking up the main control panel - that would be TRULY overwhelming and you would have to have baby buttons to fit them all together. That’s one of the problems with the stupid Doug review - he acted like you would be flipping wading mode on and off like your audio volume. It’s rarely engaged, so it’s out of the way - simple solution.
Over here on the other side of the ocean, the Rubicon starts at 72K. The Trialmaster is 81k. So, not that much of a difference.
They are not fog lights. They are driving lights. In Australia they switch on with high beam if you select the roof switch to on. Honestly they are not very good but the standard headlight high beam are great.
With all that L-track you could mount like 80 GoPros on it. 😉
Bahahahaaaaa
I like the overall exterior look, made it look like a previous gen defender, which I like. I'd prefer a little simpler and a diesel option, too many buttons and technology imo. I'd take an old defender to build the way I want if I were to go with that style rig.
Just want to know... will the Grenadier keep going with a bunch of stuff is inoperative? Like, will it still start up and run as long as there is water in the radiator and oil in the pan..??
All the modern nanny functions are there to alert the operator, but not shut down the vehicle ?
I've crossed the Sahara and last thing I want is a vehicle to stop working with some kind of electrical software glitch.
Has it been built for rugged mining duty? Ranching in Brazil? Peacekeeping in some $hithol3.?
Don't want a "Limp Mode" to kick in because of some emissions malfunction.
I’ve seen vids on this where the front suspension doesn’t extend much better than an IFS one. The cost of this is a bit more premium, but it isn’t out to lunch if r the quality / longevity is there with electrical and power train. Compared to a Jeep Gladiator Rubicon, this isn’t a big leap above the MSRP. It is a big jump vs 4Runner, but maybe not as much with the new 4Runner TRD Pro / Taco Trail Hunter (everything is so pricey these days). I did get to see this in person at the Sportsman show in Ontario, and the cabin is pretty neat, but there were some things that made it a little less impressive / less desirable. For the record, I have a 2022 4Runner TRD Off Road that I bought new 2 yrs ago ($52,500 before all other fees), and spent a good amount of cha-ching to get it where it’s almost done. Rough numbers, which includes some things I shouldn’t have bought is about $25K (roof rack, roof top tent, steel front bumper with winch / light bar, skid plates, power station, 12v fridge, tires, rims, SwitchPro, hatch ladder, etc.). I think some of that cost would be reduced with a vehicle like this, but obviously there is still a gap on my 4Runner purchase.
Comparably equipped it’s a more than a Gladiator Rubicon. The Rubicon you are referring to has all the luxury bells and whistles, which the 82K Grenadier does not. All in with all the essential offroading mods and similarly equipped features the Gladiator Rubicon is still cheaper (that is with an Alucab Canopy) and has more room. Grenadier is super cool, but pricey (everything is an option on the base or get the Trialmaster and it starts more expensive) and less space compared to any mid size pick up with a cap. Also can add a camper (like the Alucab or Harker or GFC) to a pick up and there is no comparison. Just look at how full the back already is and it’s not even packed for a trip. He still needs lift and wheels and tires (the ground clearances on stock tires is not good for wheelbase length) and a sway bar disconnect (stock flex is not that good, especially for a solid front and rear vehicle). Also will need to move the spare so as to fit with the ladder with 35s (apparently there is an aftermarket mod for this), not sure if a 37 will allow small rear door to open let alone fit with ladder bc I just have not seen one yet on 37s. Better than a Wrangler for overlanding, worse than a Wrangler for wheeling, worse than a Gladiator for overlanding, I assume should be a bit better for wheeling just because still not as long wheelbase, but remains to be seen- Gladiators wheel pretty well. I think if I were going Grenadier for overlanding I would do the roof conversion that Alucab sells for it. To me the ability to have everything, including getting to your sleeping quarters, inside the driving space would be the main benefit compared to a pick up with a cap and RTT or camper where you have to get out. It would be like an old VW bus on roids. LOL. i have no idea of the cost of the conversion though.
The color is magic mushroom. The white is called scottish white.
BTW the color is actually called "Magic Mushroom". The white is called "Scottish White".
It’s a great color!
23:15 complaining over no heated steering wheel really is crazy lmao
It’s a legit complaint. It’s unacceptable in the vehicle with this price tag.
it's an 'airline' track (atleast thats how it's called over here). Literally the same system as used in Airplanes to connect the seating to the floor.
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TYRE Spelt Wrong (LOL)?
I would have thought Canadians (Like Australians) would Use the English Spelling not the American Spelling………
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(PHEU)
Price out a fully optioned JL and there won't be much difference in the price! Jeep has gotten off the rails with its MSRP!
It's a nice upgrade on my 2009 Defender 110, particularly the larger diesel and auto.
However, there are too many electronics for my liking.
Other criticisms I have seen are that there isn't enough ground clearance and the traction control seems inferior to Land Rover's.
It doesn't need bigger tyres though. They would just ruin the braking and fuel economy. Here in Australia, a 900km-plus range is essential.
BTW Ineos has copied the headlight adjustment on my Defender. And turning off the Defender's aircon also turns off the fan.
They seem pretty cool but the Diesel is not available in the USA. I’m interested to see how the electric Grenadier is going to look and the price of it.
I do wish they offered the diesel in the US, but they probably didn’t want to deal with the strict emissions rules.
@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 Yup, same thing with the new Landcruisers.
i want one.
I love these things but the push button handles are kinda terrible. Not sure why they did that. The pull handles are my favorite upgrade Jeep made from the JK to the JL/JT
I have personally been frozen out with ice sheets and freezing rain from pull handles on at least 3 occasions that I can remember- absolutely frozen solid. Push button, never. Knock off the ice with a rock (since your ice scraper is inside, and everything is frozen over).
It seems to me that the screen turned out to be uncomfortable. The light falls on him. It was necessary to make a visor. The text is small and hard to read. Especially while driving. The data is located separately and is not clearly separated from each other. There is a lot of unnecessary information on the screen. The readings of the tachometer, speed, current gear, lock, steering angle - all this should be in front of your eyes. Menu control via a rotating wheel is, in my humble opinion, an extremely inconvenient option. If they began to imitate aviation ergonomics, they had to continue further. To abandon the touch screen and joysticks and build navigation in the same way as it is implemented in an aviation computer and in ATMs - through side buttons with dynamically assigned functionality. And make the screen more contrasting (OLED).
I think it’s an awesome vehicle but definitely not enough ground clearance, for off roading for example the Ford bronco raptor with 37 inch tires that vehicle is tall enough to get through pretty much anything I prefer a little bit more ground clearance but that’s a good example of something from the factory that has plenty of ground clearance being an owner of 14 jeeps and the jeep 392 and Ford bronco raptor I have plenty of experience, but I think the grenadier is a very neat vehicle, definitely can be modified, problem is where do you get parts let alone dealer support and dealer service unless you have a dealer local there’s only a few in the United States, I am hopeful that this vehicle gets a large dealer Netwerk going soon and hopefully there’s some good aftermarket products for it and I feel that would make this vehicle pretty awesome.
Oh man - all I can think about is Idiocracy and Beef Supreme, with the Carl’s Junior tattoo. I REALLY think the Grenadier is not built for the 392 (RIP) crowd.
Hmmm… I’ve taken mine off road quite a bit and have never had any issues with ground clearance. I think it’s a pretty good compromise between every day use and off road use. With the front and rear lockers it’s just as capable as my Jeep Rubicon
@@kevinmokracek5078but DUDE, it’s not a monster truck, so how can you POSSIBLY say it’s capable?! (Sarcasm emoji).
@@ElderStatesman-pi3lc🤣🤣🤣
ooh shiny
Yes, the Grenadier is very cool, but it comes at a price, it's very capable but more of a overland vehicle, also the Jeep is convertible what the Ineos is not. A lot things the missing in the Jeep is due this. For me the Jeep is more fun to drive and the sitting position is also better.
I wanted to buy this thing, but no diesel engine is a deal breaker.
I wish we could get diesels here in the States again, FU VW group for Dieselgate.
Tyre is spelled correctly, just not the American way.
The hood opens the same way all BMWs use.
Another box to drive down the road 😂 Not my choice, but there's always something for everyone.
800 mm wading depth!!!!!!!
So. I asked another Canadian off road adventure channel that is also sponsored by onX Off-Road, how accurate, effective and good is it for back road travelling in Canada. I did not receive a reply. I take that response as to mean no good. What is your honest review?
Watch Ronny Dahl, 4 Wheeling Australia, he is in process of a series of videos on a Grenadier given to him by Ineos to drive, MODIFY and tour for 6 months. If you know Ronny Dahl that takes huge confidence on the part of Ineos.
@@SaltShack I was asking about onX-offroad. Not the Grenadier. I've watched Ronnys video to date.
@@johnboudreau5135 Oops, sorry. I guess I got too excited.
Just don't go over the speed limit lol
This thing starts @ $71,000US. No. But more power to those who want one.
NOT a snorkel dude...
Too many buttons i like my jeep simple to operate
😂😂sure
For over 100k CAD that’s a hard pass for a lot of people
It's basically the same price as a new Rubicon
@@Casey250 no it actually isn’t lol
@@Casey250 priced out one and with decent packages and it’s around 75k
Jeep built a Grenadier back in 2006. It's called the Jeep Commander.
I tire of tyre jokes. Think about it.
This is the truck Land Rover should have built, but didn't.
Tyre is British English
Tyre is in English - Tire is American it is not wrong ;-)
I'm sorry to say this, but this is useless. There are a ton of reviews like this. What's more interesting at this point is ownership reviews
Check out Ronny Dahl, 4 Wheeling Australia. Ineos gave him a Grenadier for 6 months to test, modify and tour. I’ve had mine for 2 months and couldn’t be happier. I’ve owned and modified every jeep from 1980 CJ 5 to JL except for YJ. I currently have two 200 series Land Cruisers both well modified. The thing to keep in mind is the Grenadier is not a Jeep it will never be a Jeep. But what it is better in every way than a jeep and worth every penny by virtue of the cardon front axles, full floating rear axle and high pinion clearance not to mention the robustness of the frame and shear payload. Flaws? Reliability track record or lack there of and fuel capacity I.e. range.
The fact it doesnt even come with 33's, let alone 35's is a major fail. I'm not sure what they were thinking.
This is an international vehicle and if you are in Africa for example and you get a flat, it will be very hard to come by anything larger than a 33. That is why they usually have 31/32s.
@paulhatzig7084 this
Also alot of ruch folk will treat it like they treat land rover defenders (old) so they probably just don't want ti limit the market too much
So there's a thing called practicable... And the grenadier is built around that. Most all of the rest of the world doesn't need 35s to go anywhere and if you need them, it's an easy task to fit them.
NOT A JEEP! NOT A ROCK CRAWLER! Not like anything on the market today. By the way, if you put 35’s on a jeep, bronco or even the new Colorado and ask those vehicles repeatedly to perform on trails that require 35’s without axle upgrades, knuckle gussets and steering component upgrades you will have failures. If you want it to look cool at the mall, different matter.
The grenadier has cardon front axles and full floating rear and high pinion clearance. These upgrades alone are worth the price of admission not to mention the frame, and no one even knows they exist let alone are standard on every Grenadier.