You besmirched the honor of a Legend! All jokes aside I dunno where to go from the Neo G9 49". It's really nice. Some of Samsung issues is the DP cable they ship is trash lol. I bought a Cable rated for 8K with all the bells and Whistle plus DSC ready. Fixed all my issues. Occasionally, I see the "G9 Flicker" (trademarked by Samsung lol) but I love the Neo G9. It would take something truly special like a 4K version at 45 to 49".
I have the OLED G9 since purchased on 22 July 2023, luckily my unit had no issue. But I no surprise your unit got problem as I face similar issue on my previous Neo G9 which screen go black or flickering. But thanks God no issue on this OLED G9.
Same, been using it for months and I've had no really issues at all. I did have an issue with the screen going black when changing resolutions, but I think it's an Nvidia thing as I was able to fix it by setting it to scale with the GPU.
To note, this problem also went away when I started using HDMI instead of DP, which you should use anyway as HDMI 2.1 has more bandwidth than DP 1.4. HDMI I don't believe has scaling at 10-bit 240hz, but DP does.
I recently purchased the MSI MPG 341CQPX QD-OLED. I had contemplated purchasing the Samsung G8 but had heard negative things about support and build quality of Samsung monitors. Samsung OLED screens are terrific, wish Samsung would delivery a more complete experience with their own brand monitors.
I got the original G9 back in 2021. It finally gave out for me a few months back (pure black screen now). I tried everything: different HDMI cables, firmware updates, etc. I thought maybe the OLED model would've fixed all these issues, but it looks like it hasn't. I shouldn't have to upgrade a monitor every 3 years at this price point. Thanks for your review.
As for your "overheating" theory, a black screen is not the results of it over heating. The back panel is part of the cooling, think of your phone how the back of it will heat up. It dissipates the heat and if it's warm, it's doing it's job. IF the monitor overheats, it results in a shutdown. Next time you think it's overheating, just hit the info button on your remote and the OSD will still pop up. For the black screening, this is very common and it's all over Samsung's forums in both US and EU and this is the biggest issue I'm having with this monitor. Sometimes it will only go black for two seconds, sometimes the image won't come back at all. I sometimes also get the Windows device disconnect and reconnect tone when this happens. If the image doesn't come back, I either have to unplug and plug back in the DisplayPort cable or go into game bar and change to 16:9 then back to 32:9. My other issue is I cannot view my BIOS, and my motherboards splash screen on start up doesn't display either. I found out that the EDID does not support most BIOS resolutions, which is why it won't display. The workaround is to enable PBP, which is an inconvenience and not acceptable for a "gaming monitor".
I like your honest thoughts on this monitor and am definitely taking it into consideration since I found this monitor for just under $1k (new), but took issue to you blasting other reviewers for giving it good reviews because "they're sponsored" and you aren't. The better reason would be that they are constantly moving through different tech and haven't spent as much time with individual monitors unless they say they're releasing a long-term review. The things you have found are from using this as a main monitor for a decent amount of time. If you watch a bunch of the other channels you reviewed (and I have as well), you almost never see any of them primarily using this monitor
I got a g9 oled right when it came out and I had every single issue he described since day one, the one that was the most troubling was the screen going black for no apparent reason, BUT this monitor is absolutely amazing when it works so I returned the monitor and decided to buy it again and THANKFULLY I don’t have any issues as of today (6months of ownership).
I have this monitor, I use it 8h+ a day work and some gaming. I had a similar issue with the black screen, but mine was related with cable. I had to buy a better quality high-speed HDMI or display port cable. Since then, I have had no issue. Yes, the OS is atrocious, I wish there was a way to disable it, it's very fking slow when switching devices or even going to the menu. Yes, it gets hot but like I said I use it for over 8h including work and games, and over heat hasn't been an issue. One issue I have, that maybe ypu haven't notice or maybe it is just mine, but the picture image shifts positions meaning the whole screen image is not centered, at times is moved to the left or the right, some times is very noticeable as the gape in one side is very big that you could tell. I buy samsung products and had only one Issue once for one of my samsung phones but a different person solved the issue.
from what I've read, the other Gen 3 QD OLED Samsung monitors (G6 and G8) tend to heat up quite a bit as well - apparently, it's the result of its heat pipes dissipating heat away from the panel itself and towards the back.
Good. Glad to see you calling out Samsung on their QC bullcrap. Black screens were a constant issue on my previous Samsung and oh my god do I hate the damn smart menu. I wish Samsung would just disable it. I think black screens are just a problem with nvidia GPUs and DSC.
TLDR: I returned the Samsung 57VA because of black crush, and I got a glossy Samsung 49OLED again. The black screens are because of HDR and Gsync. Once I ran it in SDR and no Gsync I stopped having black screen of death problems. Yes, I did experience having to turn everything off and on to get back control lol. Very aggravating. Arguably this is a Windows 11 HDR problem (W11 is better then W10 at HDR, but it still needs improvement). I have similar problems, but not as severe, when I hook up my pc to my Sony 295ES projector. To minimize issues, I run that in SDR as well. On the topic of overheating, middle bottom right is where I felt a little bit of warmth, but it was never hot. So as far as overheating, I think you got a bad monitor. My G95SC performed flawlessly for the three weeks I had it. There's a version of the G9 OLED that doesn't have the Tizen software, G93SC. I don't believe BB sells that version, and Samsung's warranty reputation is terrible, which is why I buy everything at BB and use their totaltech warranty. And I used the remote every day to switch modes based on what I was doing, which wasn't too bad once I had set all the presets. There's a press and hold function on the play/pause button on the remote which takes you to a handy quick settings menu in game mode. I ran the 57VA and 49OLED side by side, and it was an incredibly difficult decision. Several observations. The Gloss screen wasn't distracting at all. There's an annoying channel dedicated to monitors, and that guy hates matte screens, and I've got to say he's right. Gloss is far superior. The 1440p OLED is noticeably sharper than the older G9 1440p VA matte screen pixel for pixel. The blacks on the 57VA and the G9 OLED are the same. They both get super black. However, the 57VA loses all detail in darker areas of the screen, this is called black crush. On cyberpunk, just looking into a shadowy area, you can see all the detail with OLED, but not VA, it's just dark. And then there's the FALD blooming which is only a big deal on say night missions from Ghost Recon 2001, but it was so bad that it was unplayable without using the Black Equalizer setting to turn blacks into greys. On darker games in general, such as Max Payne 1, Doom 3, Deus EX, etc, the Oled was miles better. Most important standout feature of OLED gaming versus VA gaming is the pixel response time. The motion clarity on the OLED was so good it felt like cheating. And I'm sure this is true for all OLEDS. I never realized how much VA panels smear until I used an OLED, and it's that smearing that makes it harder to track targets in FPS. I went CRT, TN to VA, and 240hz OLED is totally kinetic. 240hz VA to 240hz OLED felt the jump from 60hz to 240hz. It is a huge upgrade. Color was better on the OLED, but not night and day. Color on the 57VA was noticeably better than the older G9 I've been using, so Samsung has improved their VA technology over the last few years. The VA57 is as bright as people say. The 49OLED's brightness is acceptable, but it is on the dim side. I had to run it at 75% brightness, wheras I have run most monitors at 50% brightness since 2002. The stand on the OLED is far superior to the stand on the 57VA. The OLED49 monitor stand is the best monitor stand I've ever had. The 4k resolution of the VA57 is noticeably sharper than the OLED. At 4k, aliasing doesn't really show, wheras in 1440p it's there. The size and curve of the VA57 is more imersive than the 49OLED as well; the size of the 57 is on another level from my older 1000R VA49. It is not a small upgrade. However, the huge size does cramp my space. It does block my speakers somewhat which reduces sound quality for me, and I do bump into the 57 just trying to move around my office because it's wider than my desk. And then there's the OLED burn-in anxiety, which was always present in my mind, and changed the way I used my computer. I ran a black screen with no icons and a disappearing taskbar. Which was fine. But I use my computer for browsing as well as work, and I often run four windows using Powertoys. And I was concerned about burning in the center of screen over time as that is where I run windows side by side, and where videos play. However, what I ended up doing was running both the older G9VA for office work and the G9 Oled for gaming by simply moving the OLED in front of the VA when I game. Text fringing exists. It's noticeable. It can be minimized by changing the scaling in windows. Not a deal breaker for me. But subpixel structure of VA panels is more suited to Windows cleartype. OLED pixels will last longer than VA pixels, but I fear the power supply will go out long before the pixels give out. Will the OLED last ten plus years like a lot of LED monitors? Probably not. A buddy of mine has an early LCD monitor from 2004 that's still going. I doubt any of these OLEDs will still be useable 20 years from now because burn in may become so bad as to make it unusable. I see the OLED as a three year monitor, which means it would cost around dollar a day to own. It's also Samsung's first attempt at an ultrawide OLED, so reliablity should only increase from here. It's also a Gen2 panel, and Samsung claims that their GEN3 panels are brighter and not as susceptible to burn in, but I've heard that the GEN3 OLED 49 will use a slightly matte finish which is disappointing. And of course the 49OLED is easier to drive and therefore cheaper to own. Currently only the 7900XTX is truly suitable for the 57VA; even the 4090 can't run it as 240hz. The OLED49 is also hundreds of dollars cheaper out the gate. To conclude the consensus on Reddit is generally correct that the 57VA is better for a mix of office work and gaming, and the OLED is better for pure gaming. And I've written all of this because I miss the OLED every day. At times I feel like I made the wrong decision. But I used the monitors side by side for three weeks I found myself gravitating toward the larger 4k screen. But I sometimes feel that I should have kept that finicky monitor because the dark detail and motion handling was so good. I scored the three monitors, my old 49VA, 57VA and 49OLED. I made a chart to help myself make the decision and the old 49VA scored 26, 57VA scored 31, and the 49OLED scored 31. It was tied. And even now, I'm seriously considering returning the 57VA. The 49OLED was just that good for FPS. Update: I did end up returning the 57VA, and I do not miss it.
I cancelled my order after checking this video and looking at all the bad reviews on amazon, reddit,... I do NOT have the patience to deal with the potential issues. I'll check alienware instead :)
theres two version g95sc and g93sc, the overheating and major issues is due to the neo processor for smart tv features, buy the 93 which is a dumb monitor with no smart tv and thus no issues.
I was having the same problems with the picture and connectivity. I came to find out you need HDMI 2.1 cables. Since I used them I have had zero issues.
These OS issues you are describing pretty much resonate with what I'm seeing right now on my Odyssey OLED G8. Switching connected PCs (HDMI, DVI) isn't detected reliably. Even if I pull the HDMI cable and there's nothing connected to port, the OS still believes only HDMI is connected. Although the other machine on the DVI is up.
Thanks for the video. I have this and an LG 32GR93 (upon your recommendation). Got the IPS cos I didn’t want my G95 OLED on for 12 hours per day. I’ve experienced none of the issues and appreciate the OS cos I can tweak display settings more than with any other monitor. I am still super surprised that many people are using DP 1.4 with this as PC gamers think DP is the best option. For this monitor, HDMI 2.1!
I agree with the OS, I have the G85SB 34" - that resolution change is legitimately the worst, I can't use the USB C for my secondary laptop as a result, tried everything. That OS is disgusting and I hate switching the monitor on everyday. Gorgeous display once you look pass the OS - I'd consider the Corsair for future
My experience with G93SC was so far flawless. Black screen - effects both G93SC amd G95SC, BUT if you roll back G93SC to 1.5.2 or lower - there will be no issue. (Mine came with that firmware) I didn't encounter overheating with G93SC, but to be fair my room never got over 35c, so maybe if you live in hotter place's it will be a problem. About OS non smartTV G93SC doesn't have problems mentioned, I can easily change resolution refresh rate. Unfortunately some genius in Samsung though that smartTV is good idea - but at least we have a choice.
I do not agree with not recommending this monitor. I have it for months, transitioning from an LG C2. Once you try OLED, we can never go back. With the G9, I lost some pixels per inch and vertical real estate, but it is awesome for gaming and office work. It is not perfect and many of your complaints are correct, but all in all I do not know what can give me a better working and gaming solution in one.
Hey I have a c1 currently and really like it, but I feel it’s too big for a desk setup. Would it be a worthy switch to a 4K oled monitor? Will I be downgrading in any way?
Did you use DSC and G-Sync in combination with the monitor? If so, there is a big chance that your black-screen issues came from that. I had the same with 4k 160Hz and also blamed the monitor, in the end I found out that it is a DSC and G-Sync combnination issue for years with some graphics cards and Nvidia seems to not care about solving it. Since then I switched back to 1440p and did not have any problems since.
I just got the G95SC and noticed the black screen issue during game changes. Switching between full screen and borderless for example. Assetto Corsa also gave me a black screen after exiting the race. The UI is so bad and could totally be improved. I think Samsung is using a third party to create it but not 100% positive. I'll most likely return it if I don't see efforts from Samsung on software updates.
I have the older samsung 49inch and it has been terrible. Under cooler room temps, there is consistent cracking noises which a lot of people also experience. And, the screen turns black and my GPU shuts off during gaming sessions.
95sd is the 3rd gen, the SC is the original older oled 32:9 g9 of theirs, with 2nd gen qdoled panel, yours. The unfortunate thing is that only samsung got smart 32:9 qd oled monitor, there are only few options left outside of them but those have less Hz also, or smaller aspect ratios... I wish for 57" 32:9 qd oled one, or even 48:9, no joke.
Sounds like bad firmware to me. But getting it right, meaning correcting the issues via firmware updates sometimes never happens. It is awful how some companies abandon their hardware so quickly instead of fixing their software. Long term, people get tired and bad reviews do make a difference. I have the LED version of the Samsung 49”. It’s been my daily driver for work for maybe 6 years now. It still works fine. The OSD menu sucks, but I have gotten used to it.
Intresting i have an asus pg32ucdm , using a qd-oled panel from samsung and it also suffers from random black screens using both dp and hdmi that was included with the monitor , i checked the forums and reddit and discovered many many users have this exact same issue, it doesnt happen too often but its frustrating when it happens as sometimes the solution is to fully restart the pc. I have 2 monitors connected and my other older monitor doesnt go black when ny oled does meaning this only happens to my oled monitor my other ips monitor isnt affected. Sadly new oled tech is still not fully there when it comes to the perfect experience, when it works its gorgeous but be prepared to face bugs and hitches with ur experience. I have been using ips monitors for the last 10 years and i never had issues like this. Im still hopeful that some these issues like the random black screens can be mitigated with future firmware updates. Thank you for your video as sadly most these monitors only have short positive reviews without anyone actually mentioning the issues they face like the random black screens and the vrr flicker.
This monitor is amazing when it’s working which is most of the time However I experienced the black screen as well. Tips is use the windowed resolution and disable g sync. I haven’t had any issues since. And I believe this issue is with nvidia But I use this monitor 4-8hrs per session and i love it
Do not forget these monitors do not play well with AMD gpus (HDR brightness performance). The phillips 240hz monitor seems to be having issues as well so a 144hz pannel might be the way to go (maybe overheating is the reason for the hz limit).
This is the review I was looking for. I can read the specs on Samsung website, but the information about what goes wrong with it and what it feels to own (and service) it is what's a deciding factor for me. I know that G9 has all bells and whistles, but is the monitor actually working properly or am I gambling a lot of money to see whether I'm getting a good or bad unit.
I wish this video had been published two months ago! I've been experiencing the same issue since September. I'm using a 3070Ti with a 10-feet DisplayPort cable, and at first, I thought the problem was with my GPU. I searched on Reddit to see if anyone else was experiencing similar issues, but I couldn’t find any posts describing what’s covered in this video. I bought this monitor as part of a deal for $986 (after tax and shipping), so I didn’t expect to face so many problems with the screen going black randomly. One workaround I found is toggling G-Sync off and back on, but it's frustrating to have to do that. That said, when the screen is working properly, the OLED display is absolutely stunning. If anyone figure out how to fix the issue please let me know, beside returning it, haha.
Absolutely would NOT recommend this monitor. I bought one on pre-order and regretted it ever since! This monitor can not cope with 240Hz and adaptive sync. I had to change my display settings in Nvidia control panel to 120Hz to stop the monitor from randomly going 'black screen'! Not great when you're in the middle of a battle in World of Warcraft Hardcore. Lost many characters that way. Kudos to you for calling out Samsung and the paid shills who raved about this monitor.
10:07 now I’m f***ed I’ve been getting random black screens but only in one game bought it a year ago but I game very very lightly and only play like 2 or 3 I don’t touch my monitor from the back to know if it’s overheating Didn’t think much of it maybe what you have is a defective product , i bought it from bhphoto and imported overseas so I don’t know how will I return it , they’ll probably tell me to call local Samsung and local Samsung would say no we can’t help you cause you didn’t buy it from us (that’s what happened to me when I raised an issue regarding this monitor but I fixed it)
I just got the Odyssey g9 so is this one better the the OLED G9 ? I want to know because I’m in the return. Not sure if I should upgrade or just leave it.
Had the G9. Neo G9 and now this. All of samsung monitors always has quirks or straight up fails. Flickering. Shutting down, Lines, Factory issues. I suggest staying far away from this monitor. Feels like Samsung Monitors and TV's are being put together by duct tape with all its problems.
you forgot to add this moniter is not compatable with apple macbook pro m3 i have i been struggling and wasted months on this monitor it does not work with my apple laptop and nobody is sayin this online
I mean it kinda makes sense why none r saying it why would you get a gaming focus monitor for a MacBook that doesn't make sense to me plus you shouldn't use a qd oled for work in the first place if you use it for work mainly you will get burn in with in a year
I am going to put this here for other People but I am sticking with the Neo G9(more expensive than the 57" and OLED for a Reason even though its older 😂). If you are seeing this on today November 13th and you want to try the OLED there are 2 for under $800 on AMAZON(used acceptable). If you are seeing this you can at least try it without breaking the bank. I was out on the G9 OLED when I saw the curve wasn't as pronounced and tbh the Neo G9 looks stunning enough.
EDIT: I accidentally refer to the OLED G9 as the NEO G9 throughout this video, my bad boys. Hope y'all enjoy!
would you recommend the G93sc version of this instead of the g95sc version?
What You Mean?
@@zolo400 it will probably solve the OS problems
You besmirched the honor of a Legend! All jokes aside I dunno where to go from the Neo G9 49". It's really nice. Some of Samsung issues is the DP cable they ship is trash lol. I bought a Cable rated for 8K with all the bells and Whistle plus DSC ready. Fixed all my issues. Occasionally, I see the "G9 Flicker" (trademarked by Samsung lol) but I love the Neo G9. It would take something truly special like a 4K version at 45 to 49".
I have the OLED G9 since purchased on 22 July 2023, luckily my unit had no issue. But I no surprise your unit got problem as I face similar issue on my previous Neo G9 which screen go black or flickering. But thanks God no issue on this OLED G9.
I have this monitor and have no problems at all. It works perfect on my setup and its beautiful.
Same, been using it for months and I've had no really issues at all. I did have an issue with the screen going black when changing resolutions, but I think it's an Nvidia thing as I was able to fix it by setting it to scale with the GPU.
To note, this problem also went away when I started using HDMI instead of DP, which you should use anyway as HDMI 2.1 has more bandwidth than DP 1.4. HDMI I don't believe has scaling at 10-bit 240hz, but DP does.
I recently purchased the MSI MPG 341CQPX QD-OLED. I had contemplated purchasing the Samsung G8 but had heard negative things about support and build quality of Samsung monitors. Samsung OLED screens are terrific, wish Samsung would delivery a more complete experience with their own brand monitors.
I got the original G9 back in 2021. It finally gave out for me a few months back (pure black screen now). I tried everything: different HDMI cables, firmware updates, etc. I thought maybe the OLED model would've fixed all these issues, but it looks like it hasn't. I shouldn't have to upgrade a monitor every 3 years at this price point. Thanks for your review.
yeah three years is very poor.
As for your "overheating" theory, a black screen is not the results of it over heating. The back panel is part of the cooling, think of your phone how the back of it will heat up. It dissipates the heat and if it's warm, it's doing it's job. IF the monitor overheats, it results in a shutdown. Next time you think it's overheating, just hit the info button on your remote and the OSD will still pop up. For the black screening, this is very common and it's all over Samsung's forums in both US and EU and this is the biggest issue I'm having with this monitor. Sometimes it will only go black for two seconds, sometimes the image won't come back at all. I sometimes also get the Windows device disconnect and reconnect tone when this happens. If the image doesn't come back, I either have to unplug and plug back in the DisplayPort cable or go into game bar and change to 16:9 then back to 32:9. My other issue is I cannot view my BIOS, and my motherboards splash screen on start up doesn't display either. I found out that the EDID does not support most BIOS resolutions, which is why it won't display. The workaround is to enable PBP, which is an inconvenience and not acceptable for a "gaming monitor".
I like your honest thoughts on this monitor and am definitely taking it into consideration since I found this monitor for just under $1k (new), but took issue to you blasting other reviewers for giving it good reviews because "they're sponsored" and you aren't. The better reason would be that they are constantly moving through different tech and haven't spent as much time with individual monitors unless they say they're releasing a long-term review. The things you have found are from using this as a main monitor for a decent amount of time. If you watch a bunch of the other channels you reviewed (and I have as well), you almost never see any of them primarily using this monitor
I got a g9 oled right when it came out and I had every single issue he described since day one, the one that was the most troubling was the screen going black for no apparent reason, BUT this monitor is absolutely amazing when it works so I returned the monitor and decided to buy it again and THANKFULLY I don’t have any issues as of today (6months of ownership).
I have this monitor, I use it 8h+ a day work and some gaming. I had a similar issue with the black screen, but mine was related with cable. I had to buy a better quality high-speed HDMI or display port cable. Since then, I have had no issue. Yes, the OS is atrocious, I wish there was a way to disable it, it's very fking slow when switching devices or even going to the menu. Yes, it gets hot but like I said I use it for over 8h including work and games, and over heat hasn't been an issue. One issue I have, that maybe ypu haven't notice or maybe it is just mine, but the picture image shifts positions meaning the whole screen image is not centered, at times is moved to the left or the right, some times is very noticeable as the gape in one side is very big that you could tell.
I buy samsung products and had only one Issue once for one of my samsung phones but a different person solved the issue.
Thank you for the honest reviews and transparency! Hope you continue to get more subscribers 🙌🏽
from what I've read, the other Gen 3 QD OLED Samsung monitors (G6 and G8) tend to heat up quite a bit as well - apparently, it's the result of its heat pipes dissipating heat away from the panel itself and towards the back.
Good. Glad to see you calling out Samsung on their QC bullcrap. Black screens were a constant issue on my previous Samsung and oh my god do I hate the damn smart menu. I wish Samsung would just disable it.
I think black screens are just a problem with nvidia GPUs and DSC.
there is a version without the os so would you recommend that?
I only get random black screen when using hdmi, no problem with display port
TLDR: I returned the Samsung 57VA because of black crush, and I got a glossy Samsung 49OLED again.
The black screens are because of HDR and Gsync. Once I ran it in SDR and no Gsync I stopped having black screen of death problems. Yes, I did experience having to turn everything off and on to get back control lol. Very aggravating. Arguably this is a Windows 11 HDR problem (W11 is better then W10 at HDR, but it still needs improvement). I have similar problems, but not as severe, when I hook up my pc to my Sony 295ES projector. To minimize issues, I run that in SDR as well.
On the topic of overheating, middle bottom right is where I felt a little bit of warmth, but it was never hot. So as far as overheating, I think you got a bad monitor. My G95SC performed flawlessly for the three weeks I had it.
There's a version of the G9 OLED that doesn't have the Tizen software, G93SC. I don't believe BB sells that version, and Samsung's warranty reputation is terrible, which is why I buy everything at BB and use their totaltech warranty. And I used the remote every day to switch modes based on what I was doing, which wasn't too bad once I had set all the presets. There's a press and hold function on the play/pause button on the remote which takes you to a handy quick settings menu in game mode.
I ran the 57VA and 49OLED side by side, and it was an incredibly difficult decision. Several observations. The Gloss screen wasn't distracting at all. There's an annoying channel dedicated to monitors, and that guy hates matte screens, and I've got to say he's right. Gloss is far superior. The 1440p OLED is noticeably sharper than the older G9 1440p VA matte screen pixel for pixel.
The blacks on the 57VA and the G9 OLED are the same. They both get super black. However, the 57VA loses all detail in darker areas of the screen, this is called black crush. On cyberpunk, just looking into a shadowy area, you can see all the detail with OLED, but not VA, it's just dark. And then there's the FALD blooming which is only a big deal on say night missions from Ghost Recon 2001, but it was so bad that it was unplayable without using the Black Equalizer setting to turn blacks into greys. On darker games in general, such as Max Payne 1, Doom 3, Deus EX, etc, the Oled was miles better.
Most important standout feature of OLED gaming versus VA gaming is the pixel response time. The motion clarity on the OLED was so good it felt like cheating. And I'm sure this is true for all OLEDS. I never realized how much VA panels smear until I used an OLED, and it's that smearing that makes it harder to track targets in FPS. I went CRT, TN to VA, and 240hz OLED is totally kinetic. 240hz VA to 240hz OLED felt the jump from 60hz to 240hz. It is a huge upgrade.
Color was better on the OLED, but not night and day. Color on the 57VA was noticeably better than the older G9 I've been using, so Samsung has improved their VA technology over the last few years. The VA57 is as bright as people say. The 49OLED's brightness is acceptable, but it is on the dim side. I had to run it at 75% brightness, wheras I have run most monitors at 50% brightness since 2002.
The stand on the OLED is far superior to the stand on the 57VA. The OLED49 monitor stand is the best monitor stand I've ever had.
The 4k resolution of the VA57 is noticeably sharper than the OLED. At 4k, aliasing doesn't really show, wheras in 1440p it's there. The size and curve of the VA57 is more imersive than the 49OLED as well; the size of the 57 is on another level from my older 1000R VA49. It is not a small upgrade. However, the huge size does cramp my space. It does block my speakers somewhat which reduces sound quality for me, and I do bump into the 57 just trying to move around my office because it's wider than my desk.
And then there's the OLED burn-in anxiety, which was always present in my mind, and changed the way I used my computer. I ran a black screen with no icons and a disappearing taskbar. Which was fine. But I use my computer for browsing as well as work, and I often run four windows using Powertoys. And I was concerned about burning in the center of screen over time as that is where I run windows side by side, and where videos play. However, what I ended up doing was running both the older G9VA for office work and the G9 Oled for gaming by simply moving the OLED in front of the VA when I game.
Text fringing exists. It's noticeable. It can be minimized by changing the scaling in windows. Not a deal breaker for me. But subpixel structure of VA panels is more suited to Windows cleartype.
OLED pixels will last longer than VA pixels, but I fear the power supply will go out long before the pixels give out. Will the OLED last ten plus years like a lot of LED monitors? Probably not. A buddy of mine has an early LCD monitor from 2004 that's still going. I doubt any of these OLEDs will still be useable 20 years from now because burn in may become so bad as to make it unusable. I see the OLED as a three year monitor, which means it would cost around dollar a day to own. It's also Samsung's first attempt at an ultrawide OLED, so reliablity should only increase from here. It's also a Gen2 panel, and Samsung claims that their GEN3 panels are brighter and not as susceptible to burn in, but I've heard that the GEN3 OLED 49 will use a slightly matte finish which is disappointing.
And of course the 49OLED is easier to drive and therefore cheaper to own. Currently only the 7900XTX is truly suitable for the 57VA; even the 4090 can't run it as 240hz. The OLED49 is also hundreds of dollars cheaper out the gate.
To conclude the consensus on Reddit is generally correct that the 57VA is better for a mix of office work and gaming, and the OLED is better for pure gaming.
And I've written all of this because I miss the OLED every day. At times I feel like I made the wrong decision. But I used the monitors side by side for three weeks I found myself gravitating toward the larger 4k screen. But I sometimes feel that I should have kept that finicky monitor because the dark detail and motion handling was so good. I scored the three monitors, my old 49VA, 57VA and 49OLED. I made a chart to help myself make the decision and the old 49VA scored 26, 57VA scored 31, and the 49OLED scored 31. It was tied. And even now, I'm seriously considering returning the 57VA. The 49OLED was just that good for FPS.
Update: I did end up returning the 57VA, and I do not miss it.
I cancelled my order after checking this video and looking at all the bad reviews on amazon, reddit,...
I do NOT have the patience to deal with the potential issues. I'll check alienware instead :)
Same 😂
theres two version g95sc and g93sc, the overheating and major issues is due to the neo processor for smart tv features, buy the 93 which is a dumb monitor with no smart tv and thus no issues.
@@gamerbabu665 yup i think its all about that OS
I was having the same problems with the picture and connectivity. I came to find out you need HDMI 2.1 cables. Since I used them I have had zero issues.
These OS issues you are describing pretty much resonate with what I'm seeing right now on my Odyssey OLED G8. Switching connected PCs (HDMI, DVI) isn't detected reliably. Even if I pull the HDMI cable and there's nothing connected to port, the OS still believes only HDMI is connected. Although the other machine on the DVI is up.
Thanks for the video. I have this and an LG 32GR93 (upon your recommendation). Got the IPS cos I didn’t want my G95 OLED on for 12 hours per day. I’ve experienced none of the issues and appreciate the OS cos I can tweak display settings more than with any other monitor. I am still super surprised that many people are using DP 1.4 with this as PC gamers think DP is the best option. For this monitor, HDMI 2.1!
I agree with the OS, I have the G85SB 34" - that resolution change is legitimately the worst, I can't use the USB C for my secondary laptop as a result, tried everything. That OS is disgusting and I hate switching the monitor on everyday. Gorgeous display once you look pass the OS - I'd consider the Corsair for future
My experience with G93SC was so far flawless.
Black screen - effects both G93SC amd G95SC, BUT if you roll back G93SC to 1.5.2 or lower - there will be no issue. (Mine came with that firmware)
I didn't encounter overheating with G93SC, but to be fair my room never got over 35c, so maybe if you live in hotter place's it will be a problem.
About OS non smartTV G93SC doesn't have problems mentioned, I can easily change resolution refresh rate. Unfortunately some genius in Samsung though that smartTV is good idea - but at least we have a choice.
i use this monitor everyday and its amazing, never an issue.
I do not agree with not recommending this monitor. I have it for months, transitioning from an LG C2. Once you try OLED, we can never go back. With the G9, I lost some pixels per inch and vertical real estate, but it is awesome for gaming and office work. It is not perfect and many of your complaints are correct, but all in all I do not know what can give me a better working and gaming solution in one.
Hey I have a c1 currently and really like it, but I feel it’s too big for a desk setup. Would it be a worthy switch to a 4K oled monitor? Will I be downgrading in any way?
You do realize other manufacturers like MSI and Gigabyte have monitors that used the same panel right?
I love the you don't take money to mislead the people.keepbit up i love your channel and respect what you do.and what is that game the you play?
With this all being said, what would be the go to monitor for super ultrawide/ultra gaming on 40" OLED monitors if it isn't this?
I have the G8 now the Software is ok, But it had a lot of problems. Samsung Support is ... There is NO support !!!
For the price this is unaceptable , but what if the product you receive didnt have any problems? No way all the monitors have the same problem
Did you use DSC and G-Sync in combination with the monitor? If so, there is a big chance that your black-screen issues came from that. I had the same with 4k 160Hz and also blamed the monitor, in the end I found out that it is a DSC and G-Sync combnination issue for years with some graphics cards and Nvidia seems to not care about solving it. Since then I switched back to 1440p and did not have any problems since.
Thank you so much for the review. Very useful.
I just got the G95SC and noticed the black screen issue during game changes. Switching between full screen and borderless for example. Assetto Corsa also gave me a black screen after exiting the race. The UI is so bad and could totally be improved. I think Samsung is using a third party to create it but not 100% positive. I'll most likely return it if I don't see efforts from Samsung on software updates.
Love to see HLL being played.
Having the same issue. Luckily I got it yesterday so Im returning it. Im glad I used Amazon.
Unfortunately Samsung TVs and monitors have always had high failure rates.
I have the older samsung 49inch and it has been terrible. Under cooler room temps, there is consistent cracking noises which a lot of people also experience. And, the screen turns black and my GPU shuts off during gaming sessions.
If your gpu shuts off its your computer not your monitor. Pls use your brain smh
95sd is the 3rd gen, the SC is the original older oled 32:9 g9 of theirs, with 2nd gen qdoled panel, yours.
The unfortunate thing is that only samsung got smart 32:9 qd oled monitor, there are only few options left outside of them but those have less Hz also, or smaller aspect ratios...
I wish for 57" 32:9 qd oled one, or even 48:9, no joke.
Where do you even go to get a job for customer service Samsung, Sony, ect I never see a listing or ad for hiring
Sounds like bad firmware to me. But getting it right, meaning correcting the issues via firmware updates sometimes never happens. It is awful how some companies abandon their hardware so quickly instead of fixing their software. Long term, people get tired and bad reviews do make a difference.
I have the LED version of the Samsung 49”. It’s been my daily driver for work for maybe 6 years now. It still works fine. The OSD menu sucks, but I have gotten used to it.
Intresting i have an asus pg32ucdm , using a qd-oled panel from samsung and it also suffers from random black screens using both dp and hdmi that was included with the monitor , i checked the forums and reddit and discovered many many users have this exact same issue, it doesnt happen too often but its frustrating when it happens as sometimes the solution is to fully restart the pc. I have 2 monitors connected and my other older monitor doesnt go black when ny oled does meaning this only happens to my oled monitor my other ips monitor isnt affected. Sadly new oled tech is still not fully there when it comes to the perfect experience, when it works its gorgeous but be prepared to face bugs and hitches with ur experience. I have been using ips monitors for the last 10 years and i never had issues like this.
Im still hopeful that some these issues like the random black screens can be mitigated with future firmware updates.
Thank you for your video as sadly most these monitors only have short positive reviews without anyone actually mentioning the issues they face like the random black screens and the vrr flicker.
6:23 it’s not Alienware anymore all major tech companies have it
MSI
ASUS
Gigabyte
..etc.
This monitor is amazing when it’s working which is most of the time
However I experienced the black screen as well.
Tips is use the windowed resolution and disable g sync.
I haven’t had any issues since.
And I believe this issue is with nvidia
But I use this monitor 4-8hrs per session and i love it
Do not forget these monitors do not play well with AMD gpus (HDR brightness performance). The phillips 240hz monitor seems to be having issues as well so a 144hz pannel might be the way to go (maybe overheating is the reason for the hz limit).
This is the review I was looking for. I can read the specs on Samsung website, but the information about what goes wrong with it and what it feels to own (and service) it is what's a deciding factor for me. I know that G9 has all bells and whistles, but is the monitor actually working properly or am I gambling a lot of money to see whether I'm getting a good or bad unit.
Excellent video! 😊
I wish this video had been published two months ago! I've been experiencing the same issue since September. I'm using a 3070Ti with a 10-feet DisplayPort cable, and at first, I thought the problem was with my GPU. I searched on Reddit to see if anyone else was experiencing similar issues, but I couldn’t find any posts describing what’s covered in this video.
I bought this monitor as part of a deal for $986 (after tax and shipping), so I didn’t expect to face so many problems with the screen going black randomly. One workaround I found is toggling G-Sync off and back on, but it's frustrating to have to do that.
That said, when the screen is working properly, the OLED display is absolutely stunning. If anyone figure out how to fix the issue please let me know, beside returning it, haha.
Just try to use HDMI 2.1 instead of DisplayPort. Should fix it.
If there are still some trouble, buy a good 8K hdmi cable and give it a try.
Absolutely would NOT recommend this monitor. I bought one on pre-order and regretted it ever since! This monitor can not cope with 240Hz and adaptive sync. I had to change my display settings in Nvidia control panel to 120Hz to stop the monitor from randomly going 'black screen'! Not great when you're in the middle of a battle in World of Warcraft Hardcore. Lost many characters that way. Kudos to you for calling out Samsung and the paid shills who raved about this monitor.
Skill issue*
10:07 now I’m f***ed I’ve been getting random black screens but only in one game bought it a year ago but I game very very lightly and only play like 2 or 3
I don’t touch my monitor from the back to know if it’s overheating
Didn’t think much of it maybe what you have is a defective product , i bought it from bhphoto and imported overseas so I don’t know how will I return it , they’ll probably tell me to call local Samsung and local Samsung would say no we can’t help you cause you didn’t buy it from us (that’s what happened to me when I raised an issue regarding this monitor but I fixed it)
Do you recommend LG 45 oled
I just got the Odyssey g9 so is this one better the the OLED G9 ? I want to know because I’m in the return. Not sure if I should upgrade or just leave it.
Hi.. do you test the MSI MPG 491CQP? After your video in dont want to by the Samsung G9. I have a Samsung G7 32" and i have 3 problème in 2 years...
I have no probems with mine. Don't assume everyone will share your experience.
is this 3rd gen qdoled ?
Tbh, i after i had issues with samsung i never buy again from them, i stick with LG more durable, reliable and great customer service
you should get G93 no issues at all (couse you dont get the smart crap)
Had the G9. Neo G9 and now this. All of samsung monitors always has quirks or straight up fails. Flickering. Shutting down, Lines, Factory issues. I suggest staying far away from this monitor.
Feels like Samsung Monitors and TV's are being put together by duct tape with all its problems.
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you forgot to add this moniter is not compatable with apple macbook pro m3 i have i been struggling and wasted months on this monitor it does not work with my apple laptop and nobody is sayin this online
I mean it kinda makes sense why none r saying it why would you get a gaming focus monitor for a MacBook that doesn't make sense to me plus you shouldn't use a qd oled for work in the first place if you use it for work mainly you will get burn in with in a year
Word of advice never buy something that has both apple and computer in the name
Where can I get that keyboard lol
Ok. I’m not buying this
very helpfull
did u try to put a fan on the back
🤦♂ Thanks for the review!
I am going to put this here for other People but I am sticking with the Neo G9(more expensive than the 57" and OLED for a Reason even though its older 😂). If you are seeing this on today November 13th and you want to try the OLED there are 2 for under $800 on AMAZON(used acceptable). If you are seeing this you can at least try it without breaking the bank. I was out on the G9 OLED when I saw the curve wasn't as pronounced and tbh the Neo G9 looks stunning enough.
Had np with mine lol
Shamesung
Got the flashing porblmemaswell
@Samsung