The guy is short stacked in 3/5 straddle game ! Over limps with crap Gets a great flop, plays every street scared Misses value on the river Guys live games are profitable even these days lol
We're all here to learn. Kind of goes against the spirit of the show to give anyone who calls in grief. Just hope he takes on board about how vital it is to get maximum value when you have the best hand.
Being made to understand I was shitty at poker gave me the motivation to focus and get better. Telling him, "it's alright, you did your best" isn't doing him any favors.
To the guy who called in: don’t let the comment pros derail you. Odds are most of them aren’t any better at poker than you. And you are actively seeking out advice and critique looking to improve. This is what all the best poker players have done from the beginning. You will also find that the very best poker players tend to be humble rather than condescending. Relativity they have all been bad at some point. And also realizing what they know now will seem amateurish to them 5 years from now. Keep doing what you are doing and you will continue to get better results as your understanding of the game improves. Kudos for making yourself public and open to criticism . And kudos to Bart who is a consummate professional.
Yeah I've noticed that usually the worst players shit talk other people's play the most. We all misplay hands and play hands we shouldn't at times. The important thing is to learn and improve.
I love these call in shows they are so real. The guy played it wrong but its great of him to ring up and expose himself for one. For two its great that Bart takes all kinds of hands at all levels. For three this one call will improve the guys game and thought process a lot. For four, i think in poker we search so much for validation of our strategy and how good we are that its a relief to jump on soneone thats played a hand badly because it feels like we actually understand something. We should be wary of this cos its all relative, likely most of the callers Bart speaks to are making very obvious mistakes because of the level hea at. Its juat that thia guy was making mistakes that ppl at most levels can see are mistakes. In short we shouldn't hang him for his mistakes in the hand but rather thank him for sharing the hand
Ironically this dude may have played this hand as horrible as possible and gotten max value because of it. This is a clear case of a guy who won't admit that he's not good at the game but sees others as bad, many many of those. Spend the money on training brother.
How can you say he got max value when he literally never bet or raised and checked back the river? Besides a flop raise that would cause V to fold it's the textbook definition of min value.
@@88mphDrBrown You have a problem with reading comprehension?? He said that its POSSIBLE by playing this way, he GOT MAX VALUE by allowing villian to bet twice. If he played properly, check raising/Jamming flop, its possible Villian folds. Got it?
Amazing how many people jumped on the caller at once!? 😢As soon as they smelled a loose passive profile. 😂 Poor guy. He called to learn! To get a valuable feedback. Certainly not to show off. He also was honest in his game history report. Good for him. He'll become a better player. Not sure about those who jumped on him. 😢
Some major MUBS going on here, but despite all of that the biggest issue was pre-flop, and not just because his hand is terrible, but because he has no initiative. Big pots are rarely won without an initial raise. In fact I’d argue that initiative is more important than position
"Playing cautious in limped pots" start with not overlimping with trash hands that can easily be dominated post flop even if making a strong hand. Let the fish fight over the limped pots and pick your spots better.
@@Dynamice1337 are you talking to OP or the caller? Nothing about Zeke's comment indicates he plays with any emotion.... if the *caller* is that scared, the *caller* should just stay home.
I’d probably raise the flop here to get the money in and if I slowplay (which would be unlikely) would raise turn. Want to get money in versus their range which is mostly weaker hands than two pair.
"Are there more combos of KQ and KJ than KT and K9 in the opponent's hand?" My answer: No! I expect BB to certainly raise KQ and almost certainly raise KJ when it gets limped to him! Furthermore he folds KJ more often than K9 to a river bet! --- Obviously I do not know any of the players, just the characterization hero gives on villain ('a bit passive')
The fuck? On a passive weak table, I would raise the shit out of that hand all day long preflop, and obviously after that he just kept going straight donkfish style, every street😂
If caller says he sees weird stuff in these hands, why the F is he limp calling with that garbage! What did he need to bet, A24 OFF? But, we can all learn.
Okay, clearly this dude is not very good, but that’s okay. He called in to learn. He just has some leaks he needs to plug. He needs to recognize how passive he is and get money in w the best hand, that’s all!
Like I love Bart but part of me feels like videos like this are useless. Like this preflop strategy feels stupid and this is just a situation that I really don't see myself or any self respecting poker player ending up in. I would be grateful to play this guy at one of my tables though if he ever feels like coming to Texas.
Love these calls when Hero calls out folks who have faults, in this case being very passive, and then he describes a hand where he plays terribly passive
My man really needs to know he is not playing for any particular hand, he should always play for the high percentage play. He will have bad beats, but he will also win way more in the long run
Someone seriously took "never go broke in a limped pot" to heart. I'd bet call if he jammed. Why would diamonds ever take that line unless he literally had nut diamonds and he's putting me exactly on diamonds myself? Going bet, bet, check raise seems so fishy that I'm just calling off.
Listen kids, when you know you probably have the best hand, PUT MONEY IN THE POT. Don’t try to over complicate it and try to trap too often. You raise that flop and if they fold they are too weak. You WILL get value from K10+ on that flop with a raise.
Caller just sounds like he’s learning, which is the point of the show. It’s almost always a mistake to play a hand in a manner where you are making all of the tough decisions. Especially in a game with “passive” players, you can often print money just by forcing them to make decisions that appear expensive.
Interesting how the caller admitted he didn't bet the river because he knew he wouldn't be able to fold to a shove. Confirmation form the horses mouth of the low stakes river bet = polarizing exploit.
Bart said with a drop he should consider folding. However, with the straddle and all the limpers isn't the pot big enough that the drop is equivalent to a rake. He still should consider a fold because the 5 3 suited is not so good multi way.
I feel like this is a raise pre-flop even if it's in your limp range, don't you want to get some of those people out of the pot? Then a fold if you don't hit the flop or if there's heavy flop action.
It's comforting to know we have dumb players at games of these stakes. It makes me excited to move up. Crushing idiots at $1/$2 and $1/$3 is fun but you always worry once you move up it'll get exponentially harder. It appears that is not the case. 😅
Eh limping over that many limps with a hand like this is fine if A) the blinds don't raise often enough and B) you're deep. Obviously you can fold this because of how shallow he is, but if he had like 1500 effective that's an easy limp.
@@Jermo484 yes you have to be deeper but you can still only call if all 3 players to your right are extremely passive which is very unlikely in a 2/5/10 game. This shit we’re seeing here that’s the shit you see in a 1/2 game. When you factor in the high drop in this casino id advocate for an almost 0 limp strategy.
Man I'm not sure that's the case here. Obviously played horribly but you are assuming a K8 calls the flop raise and turn shove, maybe flop but highly unlikely turn.
@@Nikkithedog-t6b Can't be results oriented. Is K8 calling a flop raise? Maybe not, but hero should still raise the flop with bottom two. Villain could have any Kx hand and want to peel one off. If he folds, he folds, but hero's hand is as strong as it's likely to get on the flop, so he should try to get max value. Better a fold than a suck-out with a river 8.
what the hell is this comment section? this guy is literally calling in to a podcast about teaching poker strategy and its like you're all expecting the caller to play perfectly... I guarantee every one of us have played hands poorly before
The caller played the hand great! Except for preflop, flop, turn, and river. Other than that, he nailed it!
Other than that, how was the play, Mrs. Lincoln?
Legit LOL!
Yah….
Lol.. exactly what I was thinking. Jeez poor guy is horrible
hahaha. Good one. @@timmyp34
Aw poor guy. Be nice he is still learning. Shouldn't be playing that big though
Right, I was thinking $1-3? Or maybe he is so loaded with $ that he doesn't care?
@@timmyp34 I hope that's the case
I fall love bad play bc it owns way mor why the good pay I better.
Lucky Chances in San Fran... I woulda thought it was a gay bar.
To the caller, your playing to big if your this afraid.
Scared money is all this is.
I love how this guy is describing the *other players* as passive
He calls them passive but is also scared of them check jamming 2 pair when the front door diamonds come in… This doesn’t add up.
lol, poker is alive and well. And this is someone who "studies" the game. Misplayed every street...
The guy is short stacked in 3/5 straddle game ! Over limps with crap
Gets a great flop, plays every street scared
Misses value on the river
Guys live games are profitable even these days lol
Yeh I was thinking that too.
It's funny how the caller thinks he has a good assessment of poker, and yet clearly didn't assess anything even remotely correctly. Here fishy fishy 🐟
Hero literally played every street wrong. Live poker is not dead.
exactly just keep it to yourself lol
This guy would literally lose his entire net worth at 10nl ( .05/.10) online.
Have to raise the flop and go all in on the turn.
We're all here to learn. Kind of goes against the spirit of the show to give anyone who calls in grief. Just hope he takes on board about how vital it is to get maximum value when you have the best hand.
Guy is playing 2/5/10 he needs to know he isn’t good enough for that game and this comment section is going to help him learn that.
@@Stockhandle123 true. However, it seems a majority of the player at the table also missed their level. 😢
@@pot_kivach160 yeah a lot of limping for 2/5/10 ive never played a game that big with a 7 way flop. That’s 1/2-1/3 stuff.
Being made to understand I was shitty at poker gave me the motivation to focus and get better. Telling him, "it's alright, you did your best" isn't doing him any favors.
@@1vailchris what stakes do you play now?
Go easy on the guy. We all know he played it wrong including bart and himself. Everybody chill and use it as reinforcement.
"the three most passive players at the table are in the blinds" 🤔🤔🤔
There were 3 blinds.
@@Stockhandle123 indeed, but none of them were the button
@@carneades4409 so imagine they are most be more passive than him. 😀
@@Stockhandle123turn your sarcasm meter up
@@rgore55 is yours?
Felt like Bart wanted to tell this dude to go get a switch from the back yard.
To the guy who called in: don’t let the comment pros derail you. Odds are most of them aren’t any better at poker than you. And you are actively seeking out advice and critique looking to improve. This is what all the best poker players have done from the beginning. You will also find that the very best poker players tend to be humble rather than condescending. Relativity they have all been bad at some point. And also realizing what they know now will seem amateurish to them 5 years from now.
Keep doing what you are doing and you will continue to get better results as your understanding of the game improves. Kudos for making yourself public and open to criticism . And kudos to Bart who is a consummate professional.
Yeah I've noticed that usually the worst players shit talk other people's play the most. We all misplay hands and play hands we shouldn't at times. The important thing is to learn and improve.
Wrong.
I was worried he was on the flush draw so I was going to wait for a clean River before I got any value
Awesome logic
“Maybe what I have to do is check em a few streets early, keep em dead, and then pop em on the river, cause then they can’t get there”
Yeah you never want to get any money in as a huge favorite if there's a chance you might lose.
@@getmeoutofsanfrancisco9917 watch out Robl
I love these call in shows they are so real. The guy played it wrong but its great of him to ring up and expose himself for one. For two its great that Bart takes all kinds of hands at all levels. For three this one call will improve the guys game and thought process a lot. For four, i think in poker we search so much for validation of our strategy and how good we are that its a relief to jump on soneone thats played a hand badly because it feels like we actually understand something. We should be wary of this cos its all relative, likely most of the callers Bart speaks to are making very obvious mistakes because of the level hea at. Its juat that thia guy was making mistakes that ppl at most levels can see are mistakes. In short we shouldn't hang him for his mistakes in the hand but rather thank him for sharing the hand
“The expert at anything was once a beginner.” - Helen Hayes
At $3/$5/$10? This is well into medium stakes range. I wish my local 5/10 played like this.
I'm constantly amazed by how good the comments section is at poker. I'm very thankful I've never seen any of them at a table.
Ironically this dude may have played this hand as horrible as possible and gotten max value because of it. This is a clear case of a guy who won't admit that he's not good at the game but sees others as bad, many many of those. Spend the money on training brother.
No way he could have gotten all the money on the turn by making it look like he can have diamonds.
How can you say he got max value when he literally never bet or raised and checked back the river? Besides a flop raise that would cause V to fold it's the textbook definition of min value.
@@88mphDrBrownHe said he COULD have.
@@88mphDrBrown You have a problem with reading comprehension??
He said that its POSSIBLE by playing this way, he GOT MAX VALUE by allowing villian to bet twice. If he played properly, check raising/Jamming flop, its possible Villian folds.
Got it?
@@conorm2524 That's not the issue I was even raising.
No flop raise was quite the head shaker.
I’d like to personally invite this guy to come play at my table 😂
Amazing how many people jumped on the caller at once!? 😢As soon as they smelled a loose passive profile. 😂
Poor guy. He called to learn! To get a valuable feedback. Certainly not to show off. He also was honest in his game history report. Good for him. He'll become a better player. Not sure about those who jumped on him. 😢
Playing passive AND scared -- it doesn't get any worse.
I think he’s got a king or a flush draw… but doesn’t raise… when that’s always the time to raise?
Some major MUBS going on here, but despite all of that the biggest issue was pre-flop, and not just because his hand is terrible, but because he has no initiative. Big pots are rarely won without an initial raise. In fact I’d argue that initiative is more important than position
"Playing cautious in limped pots" start with not overlimping with trash hands that can easily be dominated post flop even if making a strong hand. Let the fish fight over the limped pots and pick your spots better.
This guy is a complete fish.
If you’re that scared just stay home and save your money
Sounds like you play a very emotional game. I use logic, fear or machismo has nothing to do with making the right decision.
@@Dynamice1337 are you talking to OP or the caller? Nothing about Zeke's comment indicates he plays with any emotion....
if the *caller* is that scared, the *caller* should just stay home.
Tough watch
“I hate checking behind because he could have a better 2 pair” which he is never folding or jamming vs $100 river bet
pretty sure flop raise and turn shove will get him all the money in a decent action table.
Or flop raise ends the hand, who knows.
On the flop, Bart said exactly what I am thinking: "Why did you just call???"
Is this a troll? Nothing said by the caller made any sense.
Have u listened to recs talk about poker this is how they sound
I’d probably raise the flop here to get the money in and if I slowplay (which would be unlikely) would raise turn. Want to get money in versus their range which is mostly weaker hands than two pair.
Had a similar hand over the weekend. Hero had K5, villain had 35 on a K35 flop. I 3-bet jammed the flop and got called
"Are there more combos of KQ and KJ than KT and K9 in the opponent's hand?"
My answer: No! I expect BB to certainly raise KQ and almost certainly raise KJ when it gets limped to him! Furthermore he folds KJ more often than K9 to a river bet!
--- Obviously I do not know any of the players, just the characterization hero gives on villain ('a bit passive')
Is this the callers first time playing? Why play short stack against tougher competition when it’s your first time? Play 1-2 instead…
The fuck? On a passive weak table, I would raise the shit out of that hand all day long preflop, and obviously after that he just kept going straight donkfish style, every street😂
If caller says he sees weird stuff in these hands, why the F is he limp calling with that garbage! What did he need to bet, A24 OFF?
But, we can all learn.
Okay, clearly this dude is not very good, but that’s okay. He called in to learn. He just has some leaks he needs to plug. He needs to recognize how passive he is and get money in w the best hand, that’s all!
This guys bankroll is literally $400. Players who play with scared money are the best to play with.
Like I love Bart but part of me feels like videos like this are useless. Like this preflop strategy feels stupid and this is just a situation that I really don't see myself or any self respecting poker player ending up in. I would be grateful to play this guy at one of my tables though if he ever feels like coming to Texas.
Love these calls when Hero calls out folks who have faults, in this case being very passive, and then he describes a hand where he plays terribly passive
My man really needs to know he is not playing for any particular hand, he should always play for the high percentage play. He will have bad beats, but he will also win way more in the long run
I rarely comment but this guy should just quit poker. The way he played this hand and described it put me on perma tilt.
Isn’t the drop only $5? Plus $1 for promos? That’s not a terrible rake
Almost everything this caller says is just terrible logic.....
Can you ever raise this preflop on the button so you don't have to go six ways to the flop?
The only winning option here is to fold pre flop. So technically yes you can raise here it isn’t against the law but it’s a bad idea.
I dont think ive ever seen Bart more "wtf am I wasting my time with here" than this hand 🤣🤣
How did this guy even make it to the poker table? He sounds scared to get out of bed…
Hot tip for caller stick to 1-2 1-3 Have more fun and get to learn for cheeper
I suck at poker and would love to play against this fellow.
Bart sounds so slow. The opposite of sharp. So slow on math and concepts
I can't believe this dude called in and discussed this hand. I'd be embarrassed.
Sounds like you’re playing scared money!
That was the most horribly played hand I’ve ever seen
Guy just sounds scared to talk on a mic even lol
Cmon guys quit making fun of students, otherwise people aren’t going to call in
There will always be callers with hands that never actually happened, where the caller bluffs someone on the river to win a huge pot.
Lord that was hard to listen to. Well done Bart, not to roast the poor kid.
This guy doesn’t have a thought process
the games are good! this guy needs to lay off the reefer
Caller sounds like he is on a heroine withdrawal
God that was brutal to listen to lol
Worst played ever 🤦♂️
Someone seriously took "never go broke in a limped pot" to heart.
I'd bet call if he jammed. Why would diamonds ever take that line unless he literally had nut diamonds and he's putting me exactly on diamonds myself? Going bet, bet, check raise seems so fishy that I'm just calling off.
Listen kids, when you know you probably have the best hand, PUT MONEY IN THE POT. Don’t try to over complicate it and try to trap too often. You raise that flop and if they fold they are too weak. You WILL get value from K10+ on that flop with a raise.
Bart doesn’t want to acknowledge that bb raises pre w KQ
was thinking the same thing. Those combod he talked about at the end raise preflop
Nervous and young for sure
Caller just sounds like he’s learning, which is the point of the show.
It’s almost always a mistake to play a hand in a manner where you are making all of the tough decisions.
Especially in a game with “passive” players, you can often print money just by forcing them to make decisions that appear expensive.
Interesting how the caller admitted he didn't bet the river because he knew he wouldn't be able to fold to a shove. Confirmation form the horses mouth of the low stakes river bet = polarizing exploit.
Bart said with a drop he should consider folding. However, with the straddle and all the limpers isn't the pot big enough that the drop is equivalent to a rake. He still should consider a fold because the 5 3 suited is not so good multi way.
Bart, if you never found poker as your calling in life, you would have been a great special ed teacher my dude.
You gotta raise the flop and get it in on the turn when the flush misses.. I HATE the way the caller played this hand. 😂
Wtf did I just watch
I feel like this is a raise pre-flop even if it's in your limp range, don't you want to get some of those people out of the pot? Then a fold if you don't hit the flop or if there's heavy flop action.
It's comforting to know we have dumb players at games of these stakes. It makes me excited to move up. Crushing idiots at $1/$2 and $1/$3 is fun but you always worry once you move up it'll get exponentially harder. It appears that is not the case. 😅
“fold pre” is not just a meme
Eh limping over that many limps with a hand like this is fine if A) the blinds don't raise often enough and B) you're deep. Obviously you can fold this because of how shallow he is, but if he had like 1500 effective that's an easy limp.
@@Jermo484 yes you have to be deeper but you can still only call if all 3 players to your right are extremely passive which is very unlikely in a 2/5/10 game. This shit we’re seeing here that’s the shit you see in a 1/2 game. When you factor in the high drop in this casino id advocate for an almost 0 limp strategy.
Seems like reverse implied odds would be a big issue at 15000 bb effective
@@ChrisM-wv4gs shhhh don’t tap the tank
I’m not sure this guy is cut out to be playing poker. Not being mean, he just doesn’t see it.
And he started the call saying he wanted to play against the passive players...talk about a pot calling a kettle black
I know the comment section is going to kill this caller.
:edit was not disappointed.
I was definitely expecting king queen or King Jack betting into the field not King 8
BB raising KQs and KJs and KQo pre. Otherwise amazing analysis as always
no need more roast
This dudes so amateur, his poker skills are tryna make it in stand up at the Apollo
Maybe the worst played hand in the history of the game🤔
1st advice was best advice. fold garbage
4 mins in and confident i can say poker is still alive and well
Playing every street wrong is a new record
This guy sounds so nervous on the phone.
If there was any concern, poker is still alive and well!
this guy would get abused in my local game
Just raise the flop and blast the turn
Love how Bart and as a true coach. He's pointing out the weaknesses without over criticizing the player.
Why did you call pre? Why did yo call on flop and turn? Why did you call in?
“Why did you call in” lmaooooo
Lesson on how to win the minimum
Man I'm not sure that's the case here. Obviously played horribly but you are assuming a K8 calls the flop raise and turn shove, maybe flop but highly unlikely turn.
@@Nikkithedog-t6b yes a king is calling a flop raise in a limped pot
@@Nikkithedog-t6b Can't be results oriented. Is K8 calling a flop raise? Maybe not, but hero should still raise the flop with bottom two. Villain could have any Kx hand and want to peel one off. If he folds, he folds, but hero's hand is as strong as it's likely to get on the flop, so he should try to get max value. Better a fold than a suck-out with a river 8.
No clue!
😮
I bet if the river was a 5 or 3, and big blind checked, here checks behind scared of quads... 🤔
If you know it's going seven ways to the flop, does it matter if it's a $6 drop vs. 10% capped at $6? No.
what the hell is this comment section? this guy is literally calling in to a podcast about teaching poker strategy and its like you're all expecting the caller to play perfectly... I guarantee every one of us have played hands poorly before
I guarantee 97.4% of the comment section loses money at poker
This kind of player is why am almost averaging 100hr playing 1-3.
No chance in hell you average that hourly over any meaningful sample size.
I'm thinking you lose about $25/hr playing 1/3
@N it's over 3 months of playing once a week. No I don't think il keep that number up. But I expect it to stay around 50 or higher.