3 handed Button opening range IS a lot wider than 9 handed button range because of card removal effects of folded hands strengthening the remaining player's ranges... 9 handed if it folds to you in the SB, the BB is 30% more likely to have an Ace.... Straddling on the button is still -EV too btw just to be clear. The positional advantage isn't enough to overcome a -200bb/100 loss
16 combos of QJ, 4 combos of J7 (suited ones), 4 combos of 76 (suited ones), 9 combos of pockets (TT, 88 and 99) and 9 combos of 5x are beating him. So there is a strong merit to fold. I think his equity is much less than 33%, considering all those combos
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Have no experience 3 handed and haven't looked at the spot, but it seems like the BTN open would need to be (slightly) wider 3 handed since folded hands (particularly as you get to later positions) are significantly less likely to have high cards compared to 2 cards we know nothing about. This means BB should on average be slightly stronger when 6 people fold to you on the BTN compared to when you know nothing. I'd be surprised if this isn't swamped by differences in player type or how people feel playing 3 handed v 9 handed but it seems like they ought to be at least slightly different.
I don't know WHY the caller assumes that the player won't have 1010, 99 or 88 here. As played, all three are certainly possible. You would raise all three preflop and continue bet all three. With 99 you probably check for pot control in case you opponent has a 10 or 5. With 1010 or 88, you want your opponent to catch up to a straight or flush etc.; so you check back turn.
I strongly disagree with the caller about checking a "set" on the turn. A set boats up and there's two flush draws. A boat will check hoping that any draw gets there.
@@kukuchev711 I don't disagree. It's better to get the value on the turn charging the draw and hope they hit the flush. My point is some players will check that turn to give draws a free card to hit the flush so you can't disregard a flopped set.
Something interesting that was never mentioned in the video is the possibility of a better trips.. A5 off and K/Q/J5 suited are all opens in 3 handed cash games 100+ BB deep and I think it’s reasonable that villain could raise those for value on the river
I feel like this can be a bluff somewhat often, especially if the villain is competent and aggressive as described. When the BB bets so large on the river after checking the turn it's very polarizing, especially after both flush draws miss. The sizing could easily induce a raise from AK or AQ (or really any hand not good enough to hero call) who could be targeting a fold from a missed draw with a pair, etc. I took a very similar line recently after making two pair on the river when draws missed and induced a small check-raise that looked like nothing but value, but my line just (intentionally) looked bluffy so my opponent just tried to get me off my hand not knowing how strong I was. Good players can do that.
A hand that's far better to 3! bluff the river with would be a hand like T9, T8, 98, or something like J8 or 87 that you were already bluffing with. The 5 isn't too relevant to your opponent's boats, and doesn't really block them, so it's not that useful. I think you can jam against pros or decent regs here and expect them to purely fold straights, and likely not meet MDF, so I would jam here with any two vs. decent regs, since they expect you to be massively underbluffing this spot, so they'll overfold. I think recreationals will too often get married to their straights, or level themselves into believing that you're bluffing a missed flush draw, and they will call notably more often, so it's a lot more risky.
The three bet might actually have worked, but I'd just never bet this river. I know that sounds nitty, but 1/2 and 2/5 players are so scared of sketchy runouts. He's not calling with worse than T9 probably and if your goal is thin value that looks like a bluff cause you went big, then you'd much rather do it with like JT.
53s used to be my favorite hand. Back when I was a losing player 😂 Jamming the river is a suicide. Would be fun if he did but I’d just fold. It’s always a straight at minimum. You’re not playing vs Fedor Holtz or some other euro
Also this caller gives off vibes of: “I know a lot about poker! Let me show you how much I know!” Meanwhile, he made a lot of statements which were illogical.
i haven't waited for the reveal, and maybe this sound naïve but so often when you try to be coy rather than exploiting your made hand you find yourself in this position and it becomes almost impossible to fold because you were coy and it got checked through. so you're like fvvvk my value!!! so he fucked up not betting the turn big. and like why try and be cute?
Compared to money put into pot. It was a big sizing. He bet 20 percent over pot. How much bigger does he go? Bet 2/3x pot and the hands you want to call fold anyways. I think betting 120 percent pot is a good sizing given the situation.
this is obviously a great card for oop to donk lead turn on. however, given that villain was described as an aggressive player who was c-betting lots of turns (assuming thats what the caller meant by continuing with his aggression over multiple streets) i think going for a checkraise here seems pretty reasonable and is probably the best play by a good margin. every time we miss a checkraise it feels bad, but ofc that doesnt neecessarily mean that going for the checkraise was wrong. we're not being "coy" or "cute" by checkraising, we're trying to maximize our EV on the hand. and when holding a strong hand oop vs an aggressive opponent with the betting lead oftentimes that will mean going for a checkraise.
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3 handed Button opening range IS a lot wider than 9 handed button range because of card removal effects of folded hands strengthening the remaining player's ranges... 9 handed if it folds to you in the SB, the BB is 30% more likely to have an Ace.... Straddling on the button is still -EV too btw just to be clear. The positional advantage isn't enough to overcome a -200bb/100 loss
16 combos of QJ, 4 combos of J7 (suited ones), 4 combos of 76 (suited ones), 9 combos of pockets (TT, 88 and 99) and 9 combos of 5x are beating him. So there is a strong merit to fold. I think his equity is much less than 33%, considering all those combos
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Semantics, but he's not a vlogger
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Have no experience 3 handed and haven't looked at the spot, but it seems like the BTN open would need to be (slightly) wider 3 handed since folded hands (particularly as you get to later positions) are significantly less likely to have high cards compared to 2 cards we know nothing about. This means BB should on average be slightly stronger when 6 people fold to you on the BTN compared to when you know nothing.
I'd be surprised if this isn't swamped by differences in player type or how people feel playing 3 handed v 9 handed but it seems like they ought to be at least slightly different.
“If it’s only 3-handed he probably has all 16 combos of QJ”
Even 9-handed QJo is a standard button open surely?
Is this game a "no flop no drop" game, or not? Would that be relevant when deciding whether or not to defend with 5-3?
In fact it is no flop no drop.. I play in this game.
Bart i submitted a hand a while back i would really appreciate your break down!
I don't know WHY the caller assumes that the player won't have 1010, 99 or 88 here. As played, all three are certainly possible. You would raise all three preflop and continue bet all three. With 99 you probably check for pot control in case you opponent has a 10 or 5. With 1010 or 88, you want your opponent to catch up to a straight or flush etc.; so you check back turn.
I strongly disagree with the caller about checking a "set" on the turn. A set boats up and there's two flush draws. A boat will check hoping that any draw gets there.
You still want to charge draws tho. And also the pot is so small, you want to get some money in the pot, why check with a boat on such a wet board
@@kukuchev711 I don't disagree. It's better to get the value on the turn charging the draw and hope they hit the flush. My point is some players will check that turn to give draws a free card to hit the flush so you can't disregard a flopped set.
Something interesting that was never mentioned in the video is the possibility of a better trips.. A5 off and K/Q/J5 suited are all opens in 3 handed cash games 100+ BB deep and I think it’s reasonable that villain could raise those for value on the river
I feel like this can be a bluff somewhat often, especially if the villain is competent and aggressive as described. When the BB bets so large on the river after checking the turn it's very polarizing, especially after both flush draws miss. The sizing could easily induce a raise from AK or AQ (or really any hand not good enough to hero call) who could be targeting a fold from a missed draw with a pair, etc. I took a very similar line recently after making two pair on the river when draws missed and induced a small check-raise that looked like nothing but value, but my line just (intentionally) looked bluffy so my opponent just tried to get me off my hand not knowing how strong I was. Good players can do that.
Realizes its a polarizing bet and the plan you come up with is to raise with the better bluffcatchers we naturally have: Brilliant (!)-
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Hey Bart love the channel. Is there anyway we can incorporate some tournament hands as well in these hand reviews?
A hand that's far better to 3! bluff the river with would be a hand like T9, T8, 98, or something like J8 or 87 that you were already bluffing with. The 5 isn't too relevant to your opponent's boats, and doesn't really block them, so it's not that useful. I think you can jam against pros or decent regs here and expect them to purely fold straights, and likely not meet MDF, so I would jam here with any two vs. decent regs, since they expect you to be massively underbluffing this spot, so they'll overfold. I think recreationals will too often get married to their straights, or level themselves into believing that you're bluffing a missed flush draw, and they will call notably more often, so it's a lot more risky.
What platform is he streaming these hand break downs on?
3 handed is another beast
The three bet might actually have worked, but I'd just never bet this river. I know that sounds nitty, but 1/2 and 2/5 players are so scared of sketchy runouts. He's not calling with worse than T9 probably and if your goal is thin value that looks like a bluff cause you went big, then you'd much rather do it with like JT.
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ingrained in my brain. damn you Jaman.
72 off - best suit possible
53s used to be my favorite hand. Back when I was a losing player 😂 Jamming the river is a suicide. Would be fun if he did but I’d just fold. It’s always a straight at minimum. You’re not playing vs Fedor Holtz or some other euro
NH. Good decision on the river.
3-bet or fold this hand preflop.
Easy game.
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He didn't over bet thr turn? It went x x?
I would never play 3 handed….don’t even play anything under six
The caller needs to stop talking over Bart.
Relax he's excited. Bart talks plenty.
The caller probably does the same thing to his girlfriend or wife and she despises him for it.
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If he bluffed itd be like that Henry KkK bluff on HCL
Go bills!
I play A5 like this in villains shoes as well…
Why? With that super wet board on turn? Losing value.
For the love of God, let Bart speak. This call in needs to take pause brakes.
Also this caller gives off vibes of: “I know a lot about poker! Let me show you how much I know!”
Meanwhile, he made a lot of statements which were illogical.
Nice
i haven't waited for the reveal, and maybe this sound naïve but so often when you try to be coy rather than exploiting your made hand you find yourself in this position and it becomes almost impossible to fold because you were coy and it got checked through. so you're like fvvvk my value!!! so he fucked up not betting the turn big. and like why try and be cute?
Compared to money put into pot. It was a big sizing. He bet 20 percent over pot. How much bigger does he go? Bet 2/3x pot and the hands you want to call fold anyways. I think betting 120 percent pot is a good sizing given the situation.
this is obviously a great card for oop to donk lead turn on. however, given that villain was described as an aggressive player who was c-betting lots of turns (assuming thats what the caller meant by continuing with his aggression over multiple streets) i think going for a checkraise here seems pretty reasonable and is probably the best play by a good margin.
every time we miss a checkraise it feels bad, but ofc that doesnt neecessarily mean that going for the checkraise was wrong. we're not being "coy" or "cute" by checkraising, we're trying to maximize our EV on the hand. and when holding a strong hand oop vs an aggressive opponent with the betting lead oftentimes that will mean going for a checkraise.