My vans almost 31 years old, it's been a campervan that long, it's got no mould and no vapour barrier. At least without one they get a chance to dry out. I don't fancy moisture ever getting trapped behind a vapour barrier tbh. Using insulation that doesn't soak up moister and airing the van out regularly is a Good idea, just like you are meant to do with a house; plus don't boil potatoes etc without the fan turned on. I'm playing catch up with most of your videos...I'll go sub now 👍🚐🐕👊
Covered 25k miles in our self built camper with NO sound deadening . We have never had any issues with noise from panels or anywhere else. Extra weight and extra cost , can't understand why everyone copies advice on utube from people who are paid to promote unnecessary products.
I also used recycled plastic installation when I did my VW T4 8 years ago it was so warm in our Van that even when winter camping we had the slid door open And never had a heater, Could also be a combination of me and the wife being a bit mental and also not really feeling the cold😆👍 Great video as always 🤘👍
Excellent job, there is a massive sound difference in a fully insulated large van compared to a stripped out one, I'm working on a Transit Custom Camper project its stripped out at the moment its like driving a drum kit
If you are doing jobs like this would be useful to buy a box of vinyl gloves on Amazon. Can throw them away after you've done and they are so thin you still get a sense of touch.
I subscribed as soon as you got the crafter and am eagerly awaiting your upcoming videos as they are helping me understand the conversion process, you’re doing a great job. But I knew I’d seen you somewhere before, then I realised that I’ve been watching you since your mourning gecko videos, I’ve always wanted one but can never seem to find them anywhere for sale. Looking forward to seeing your next video on the van build. 👍
Sound deading is more important, as Beginners think about it. One has shown in his video: The Noise inside by driving. One without, and the next scene with sound deading. Greetings from sw germany. I convert now my third minicamper.
Personally I would have used kingspan or another brand 40 or 50 mm for the ceiling and walls and only use the wooly stuff in the pillars and other cavities, the apply a moisture barrier. But it’s personal preference I guess, your van is coming along just fine 👍
Excellent job. I often wonder why people don’t use the original panels and put up those crappy pine planks. Makes so much sense already cut out for you. I’m at Stonehenge at moment there is a large single deck bus like what you drive, don’t know how he got in it’s a bit tight. And how on earth he’s getting back out?
@@iNDI_VAN_A_JONES yes bit of a tight turn pulling in,would need to use on coming lane to swing in. Road very busy at all times, left hand turn only too get in, left hand turn getting out. Coming out very tight my motohome only just has enough room to turn left coming out, a bus of this size would stop all traffic to come out and then be tight.
So we started following you on Northern exotics.... but see you haven't posted there in some time.. are you not doing the reptile thing any more? We still watch your videos for breeding advice
Its an absolute pig of a job to get down, but its seriously worth insulating above the cab headliner. When its cold outside and warm inside, the condensation finds its way out the two front pillar handles, drips, and fills the two lower cup holders. I'm not joking, as funny as it may seem. My crater did exactly the same until I insulated above.
Condensation doesn't 'come through' the panels, it's moisture in the air already inside your van. It is attracted to the coldest surface, eg bare metal panels and windows, where it condenses into droplets. By adding insulation the moisture will just collect elsewhere inside the van, ie on whatever surface is colder than your now warm panels. But there won't be less of it unless it can escape, eg through an open vent (assuming it is colder and less humid outside the van), or collects in those pound shop pots you had in the old van and you empty them each day. 🎓🙂💧
11:40 - "This is only going to be a budget build" - He says in a 19 Plate VW Van with THERMO FLEECE: X2 = £60 Dodo Mat DEADN Hex Roll = £59.99 DODO THERMO LINER 7MM - 10SQ.M ROLL, £129.99 That's not a budget build at all.
A build in a long wheel base van that'll cost less then £1000 to build will be budget. These bits are vitally important for me because I'm a driver by trade. I can not be tired so this helps me have a great night's sleep
@@iNDI_VAN_A_JONES Great reply and that's understood but I don't understand how a 19 plate van and very expensive DoDo Mat is Budget? It isn't. If it's a budget van build it'd be a 14 plate minimum shorly and recycled insulation? If you get my point/drift
After more than six years reading/hearing vapour barrier vs not...all don't agree, it's a mixed bag. My van is almost 31 years old and was always a camper, no vapour barrier and no issues. I think non moister absorbing insulation, airing out when possible and Very Good ventilation; especially when cooking is key. There's still a Good chance water/moister will eventually get in behind a vapour barrier one way or another, even trapping High humidity air in at the beginning of a build...that's probably Never coming out. Even though I've seen and heard both sides of the argument, my van kinda tells me it's not necessary at all. A house has air vent's behind a vapour barrier (timber framed) whereas a van does not. TH-cam tends to create 'monkey see, monkey do' so it must be right kind of attitudes and so it becomes wrong if someone does the opposite. Only when these vapour barriered vans are stripped after 10 years shall we really know, I've seen a couple but it was not that long after the original build...this is not enough proof that it is necessary. One thing I do know for certain and that's Don't use insulation that absorbs water/moister.
Thanks. That was actually a helpful post. I appreciate it. My question is then, is the insulation he used in his van the kind that doesn't absorb moisture/water? I can't remember the name. I think it was made from recycled plastic, right? Being a disabled person wanting to get into van life to escape isolation I'm interested in these topics. Though I will have to leave electricals to a professional. I haven't a clue what I'm doing there.@@pa_maj.MARTINI-van-MAN
Dude that’s not quite true, if you have a roof vent and windows, you will hear traffic at night regardless of sound deadening and insulation. Spoken from experience.
But the noise coming in isn't echoed throughout the van. My van has for sure got a heck of alot quieter. This is mu 2nd build and this dodo matt is so much better then anything I've used before
@@iNDI_VAN_A_JONES without a doubt it’ll help, but it won’t be silent like you said it would be. My van is kitted out with sound deadening and 50mm kingspan and vapour barrier, but because I have two vents and windows, you can hear traffic. Sound deadening helps with vibrational noise when you’re moving, the insulation helps when you’re parked up.
Cheaper stuff work just as good been building campers for years save money people all these people will over exaggerate about dodo got they got the stuff for free
My vans almost 31 years old, it's been a campervan that long, it's got no mould and no vapour barrier. At least without one they get a chance to dry out. I don't fancy moisture ever getting trapped behind a vapour barrier tbh. Using insulation that doesn't soak up moister and airing the van out regularly is a Good idea, just like you are meant to do with a house; plus don't boil potatoes etc without the fan turned on.
I'm playing catch up with most of your videos...I'll go sub now 👍🚐🐕👊
Covered 25k miles in our self built camper with NO sound deadening . We have never had any issues with noise from panels or anywhere else. Extra weight and extra cost , can't understand why everyone copies advice on utube from people who are paid to promote unnecessary products.
The budget would have been blown if you'd not got the dodo mat for free!!!!
Doing a cracking job there, coming along nicely
Cheers buddy
Well done coming on nicely. Done a good job.
Thank you
Looking good mate, excited to see the project unfold. 😀
Coming together so well
I also used recycled plastic installation when I did my VW T4 8 years ago it was so warm in our Van that even when winter camping we had the slid door open And never had a heater,
Could also be a combination of me and the wife being a bit mental and also not really feeling the cold😆👍
Great video as always 🤘👍
Excellent job, there is a massive sound difference in a fully insulated large van compared to a stripped out one, I'm working on a Transit Custom Camper project its stripped out at the moment its like driving a drum kit
Keep up the good work I don’t usually watch this kind of stuff but you make the channel
I'm like that with supercar content. I don't like supermarkets but I watch a supercar channel haha thanks for the love
It’s coming along very nicely
Getting there
Good point about the balancing
Get your dodo mats while you can before they run out and go extinct
If you are doing jobs like this would be useful to buy a box of vinyl gloves on Amazon. Can throw them away after you've done and they are so thin you still get a sense of touch.
loved your progress update.
looking forward to seeing your completed buld
Looking good. Happily following along on the build.
You have done a great job
Are you not going to put a vapour barrier on before fitting any of the wood panels?
Nope. Never had one before and never had any issues. Even when stripping out the last micro van no mould or condensation.
Great video once again it’s coming on nicely great job
Thank you buddy
Looking great 👍
I subscribed as soon as you got the crafter and am eagerly awaiting your upcoming videos as they are helping me understand the conversion process, you’re doing a great job. But I knew I’d seen you somewhere before, then I realised that I’ve been watching you since your mourning gecko videos, I’ve always wanted one but can never seem to find them anywhere for sale. Looking forward to seeing your next video on the van build. 👍
That stuff is cool, mummy what could be done with it in house that does life streams
Imagine the studio sound quality
Sound deading is more important, as Beginners think about it.
One has shown in his video: The Noise inside by driving.
One without, and the next scene with sound deading.
Greetings from sw germany. I convert now my third minicamper.
Personally I would have used kingspan or another brand 40 or 50 mm for the ceiling and walls and only use the wooly stuff in the pillars and other cavities, the apply a moisture barrier. But it’s personal preference I guess, your van is coming along just fine 👍
Looking good
Love your content.... am a bus driver thinking about doing the same thing.
Excellent job. I often wonder why people don’t use the original panels and put up those crappy pine planks. Makes so much sense already cut out for you. I’m at Stonehenge at moment there is a large single deck bus like what you drive, don’t know how he got in it’s a bit tight. And how on earth he’s getting back out?
Is the parking area by the side still open just off the main road
I have plastic covers and panels. Just carpet it, and mount it back.
@@iNDI_VAN_A_JONES yes bit of a tight turn pulling in,would need to use on coming lane to swing in. Road very busy at all times, left hand turn only too get in, left hand turn getting out.
Coming out very tight my motohome only just has enough room to turn left coming out, a bus of this size would stop all traffic to come out and then be tight.
So we started following you on Northern exotics.... but see you haven't posted there in some time.. are you not doing the reptile thing any more? We still watch your videos for breeding advice
Between USA and UK both taking taxes it's no longer worth it.
Its an absolute pig of a job to get down, but its seriously worth insulating above the cab headliner. When its cold outside and warm inside, the condensation finds its way out the two front pillar handles, drips, and fills the two lower cup holders. I'm not joking, as funny as it may seem. My crater did exactly the same until I insulated above.
But it's looking good so far! :)
Condensation doesn't 'come through' the panels, it's moisture in the air already inside your van. It is attracted to the coldest surface, eg bare metal panels and windows, where it condenses into droplets. By adding insulation the moisture will just collect elsewhere inside the van, ie on whatever surface is colder than your now warm panels. But there won't be less of it unless it can escape, eg through an open vent (assuming it is colder and less humid outside the van), or collects in those pound shop pots you had in the old van and you empty them each day. 🎓🙂💧
Dusty can you tell us how to avoid this
So the takeaway is...
Donk: good
Donnnnngggg: bad
Got it! 😀
I wish I was this articulate on camrea hahaha
11:40 - "This is only going to be a budget build" - He says in a 19 Plate VW Van with
THERMO FLEECE: X2 = £60
Dodo Mat DEADN Hex Roll = £59.99
DODO THERMO LINER 7MM - 10SQ.M ROLL, £129.99
That's not a budget build at all.
A build in a long wheel base van that'll cost less then £1000 to build will be budget. These bits are vitally important for me because I'm a driver by trade. I can not be tired so this helps me have a great night's sleep
@@iNDI_VAN_A_JONES Great reply and that's understood but I don't understand how a 19 plate van and very expensive DoDo Mat is Budget? It isn't. If it's a budget van build it'd be a 14 plate minimum shorly and recycled insulation? If you get my point/drift
Where's Woody? binge watched your videos
My prediction: 12 months time there will be a video titled "I should have vapour barriered me van... woops." ^_^
After more than six years reading/hearing vapour barrier vs not...all don't agree, it's a mixed bag. My van is almost 31 years old and was always a camper, no vapour barrier and no issues.
I think non moister absorbing insulation, airing out when possible and Very Good ventilation; especially when cooking is key.
There's still a Good chance water/moister will eventually get in behind a vapour barrier one way or another, even trapping High humidity air in at the beginning of a build...that's probably Never coming out.
Even though I've seen and heard both sides of the argument, my van kinda tells me it's not necessary at all.
A house has air vent's behind a vapour barrier (timber framed) whereas a van does not.
TH-cam tends to create 'monkey see, monkey do' so it must be right kind of attitudes and so it becomes wrong if someone does the opposite.
Only when these vapour barriered vans are stripped after 10 years shall we really know, I've seen a couple but it was not that long after the original build...this is not enough proof that it is necessary.
One thing I do know for certain and that's Don't use insulation that absorbs water/moister.
Thanks. That was actually a helpful post. I appreciate it. My question is then, is the insulation he used in his van the kind that doesn't absorb moisture/water? I can't remember the name. I think it was made from recycled plastic, right?
Being a disabled person wanting to get into van life to escape isolation I'm interested in these topics. Though I will have to leave electricals to a professional. I haven't a clue what I'm doing there.@@pa_maj.MARTINI-van-MAN
Dude that’s not quite true, if you have a roof vent and windows, you will hear traffic at night regardless of sound deadening and insulation. Spoken from experience.
But the noise coming in isn't echoed throughout the van. My van has for sure got a heck of alot quieter. This is mu 2nd build and this dodo matt is so much better then anything I've used before
@@iNDI_VAN_A_JONES without a doubt it’ll help, but it won’t be silent like you said it would be. My van is kitted out with sound deadening and 50mm kingspan and vapour barrier, but because I have two vents and windows, you can hear traffic. Sound deadening helps with vibrational noise when you’re moving, the insulation helps when you’re parked up.
Cheaper stuff work just as good been building campers for years save money people all these people will over exaggerate about dodo got they got the stuff for free