Fitment Industries are fuel wheels produced here in America? If yes my wheels have a lot of orange peel here and there and the lip has a bump and the shop I went to told me that fuel wheels don’t cover that as warranty.
i got kicked out of my high school sex ed class last year cause we were talking about sexually transmitted infections and when ask which one i thought was the most common STI i said probably the 02 to 05 blobeye generation
@@andyboswell3590 in case you didn't pick up on it, i made a joke because a lot of people who tell unbelievable fake stories say "and then everyone clapped", so I was implying your story was fake. But tbh it seems pretty believable. I just didn't think someone would kick you out of class for making such an innocent joke.
I used to work for a wheel distributor and my experience with aftermarket wheels is that they usually are Chinese made, they are heavy and they are of low quality. In my experience, they were usually universal fit and were blank at the lug area and we would put them on the CNC machine to drill the proper lug pattern for the vehicle they were going on. The offset was usually just in the general vicinity of what was required (sometimes we would use spacers). Centering them required the use of hub rings which was a different size ring for every different make. The worst part was when a client would curb or crash his/her vehicle and we couldn't sell them just one or two replacement rim(s). Common problems were the yellowing and peeling of the chrome. Since that experience, I've never replaced the wheels on any car I've owned unless it was with a different style rim from the same make of the vehicle.
China only uses the finest in cheap materials and there is no quality control. Don't buy fitment wheels unless you like paying top dollar for shit products.
@HexagramMan hes not racist, what kind of quality do you believe you get from people paid almost nothing ? Everyone on planet earth knows everything manufacturered in China for cars is crap save for you ....... Its not racist , its true.
@@slaughterandmayhem Chinese companies will make what you want, if you want cheap product they will make it and if you want top notch product they will make it. Its to what you want from them and how much you will pay.
TUV approved wheels bottom line. Enkei builds excellent wheels that are rotary forged. HRE's forged line is super expensive to get into. BBS, Rays at least give you more options which is nice.
Technischer ÜberwachungsVerein, Englisch: Technical Inspection Association. It’s a governmentally recognized private organization that does testing including motor vehicle safety and emissions inspection in Germany.
If you don’t understand why it’s more money in oem wheels here’s a better explaination. I used to work in a wheel refurbishing plant in Tampa. I did quality assurance, wheel/wheel cover/steel wheel selection, work orders, customer wheels, shipping and stock wheel transfers. I used to have to balance 48 to 56 wheels depending on size on 3 to 4 pallets sometimes more. Most where transfers and usually 2 were customer ships. The transfers were all stock wheels. It more Money in stock wheels because people replace oem wheels more due to wrecks and ware and tear. Most of the wrecked wheels came from up north where it snows of course. I’d ship dozens of pallets of stock wheels to Miami every week.
Regarding the Made in USA tag. Let's be honest most wheels produced overseas are better quality. In fact that's mostly true to entire vehicles not just the wheels! Like a salesman used to tell me, when the product is good WE (salesman) don't need to sell it! The buyers simply show up and BUY it... Harley Davidson being a prime example. LOL 😂
You're right. Forged parts has more material per size, which means it's harder because of the metal density. With that extra material that indeed adds mass though. What I love about mulitpiece wheels is the fact you can sorta 'mix-n-match' combinations, and if you get struck in an accident and your rim got broken, you can go replace the damaged part. The truth about the industry nowadays is that you can never make it alone, unlike back in the days that subtle differences makes a huge difference, but with the mass production sameness of today you can not really complain anymore. You're better off with a custom set of wheels of you really want 'strict' customization.
Finally someone that explains the whole alloy and metals manufacturing and finishing origin. it just doesnt stop at wheels , its from everything from kitchen knives to tool boxes to building materials. thats why we have stuff from overseas and vice versa that are actually good
Aftermarket wheels are mostly crap (speaking as somebody who worked at a tire shop) . If you want to increase your fuel consuption , lower the comfortability of your drive or simply make a guy that changes your tires hate you , you should definitely buy aftermarket wheels.
Very underrated comment! Can't agree more! I was 18 once (long ago) and like all others. Also had my fair share of "I want...". A mechanical degree and a lot of experience, was just about enough. To learn that OEM wheels steelies or alloys. Still gather by far and wide the best advantages for the particular vehicle! And tend to be the best combination of money/performance! If we're talking about major mods, you need to dig deep! Not just on your knowledge. But way deeper on your pockets. Because, trust me on this, you'll be paying for those "stupid" choice wheels. Way after you spend your money buying them! ;-)
Some people talk shit abt xxr wheels yet they've been proven to withstand daily, drag and especially drifting. I personally had my xxr 527 wheels on my s13 for 6yrs & drift & daily. No problems
Theres some truth to this. My Dad's '98 Grand Prix had Enkei cast into the factory 5 spoke wheels. All USDM RX-7 S4 convertibles had BBS meshies... a walk through the junkyard can really be an education on "factory" wheels- often they are cast behind the spokes if the car company didn't want to "advertise" who made the wheels.
OEM are contracted. They are not aftermarket. OEM give wheel manufacturers a design and they make them. Those wheel design are property of Nissan/Honda/Toyota.
There is a difference between what you considered aftermarket and oem. This is due to wheel sizes, the ones contracted or OEM may not be the one most optimal for what you are going for. Aftermarket wheels are usually bought with specific specifications with the upmost consideration for a need such as stance/bags, speed, or friction
Thanks for the interesting and informative video, Alex. The OEM wheels on my 370Z sport pkg are Rays 19" forged aluminum monoblocks that are made in Japan, weighing 23 & 24 lbs. The replacement wheels I'm getting are from Litespeed Racing in LA. They are 19" forged magnesium monoblocks that weigh about 14 to 15 lbs in my sizes, 19 x 9 & 19 x 10. One of the reasons that I chose this company is that their wheels are entirely designed and manufactured here in California from the metal alloys they formulate to the hydraulic presses and CNC milling machines and lathes. Years ago when I was buying gear for my electric bass, I purposely sought out stuff that was designed and made in the US. I did have to pay more but it was worth it to me, as I never had any quality issues with the equipment and the instrument was not difficult to set up and maintain its setup. The point of all this is that I believe there are good choices for people in finding US made products, if people are willing to pay a little extra for good design and good quality of construction. My ex used to waste tons of money on cheaply made shoes made abroad that never felt good and that fell apart quickly. She wound up spending more in the long run than she would have if she had just bought some well-made shoes from the start. The Michelin tires that I put on my car are more expensive than those brands made in Asia but the cost per actual mile driven over the lifespan of the tire is no more than the cost of any other decent quality tires.
The amount of people in the comments tugging the OEMs chain as far as wheels is sickening . Decent flow formed aftermarket wheels that dont cost alot can be much stronger and lighter than most cast wheels and they usually look better too in many cases. There is simply bad info being thrown around in this video and in the comments. Yall can stick to your boat anchor stock wheels while I'll continue to upgrade my cars to wheels that look better and are lighter and stronger while not spending a ton of cash.
Bros, seriously my favorite vid! I want more of the nerd side of all this. You should make something specifically for people who want to learn more...nerd out on me yo!
For some reason I trust the Lexus engineers who worked for four years in developing my LC to make the proper forged wheel on a supercar, over the vast majority of companies who make the aftermarket type. Style aside (which is very personal BTW) I won't be replacing them, besides I think the 21'' wheels of my LC look great.
I needed this channel in high school. Maybe it would’ve kept me from being shoved in so many lockers if I would’ve known 16 inch chrome wheels on a Pontiac grand am wasn’t cool. Ughhhhhhh
Well young people!!!!! BBS actually made wheels back in the late 80s for the convertible RX7. The only car full convertible or targa top. This is when Maxda and Porsche looked like twins.
Economies of scale, and the "general" populations here in Merica' not keeping up with mathematical yearly inflation rate on the earning side. Great information as usual.
I've had to work on cars for a while and am working on getting out the industry. One of the reasons is because of the idiots who don't do their homework, buy cheap ass aftermarket shit with multiple stud patterns, and don't buy hub centering rings.. then when told it would help not only improve their ride quality, save them parts damage, as well as make your job easier.. refuse to. Then they're back a week later complaining about a vibration.. again. Second, this is for the manufacturers, not so much an issue with the wheel itself. But the bullshit factory lugnuts now that come with those sorry ass chrome caps that expand. Not that big of a deal when they can be handled by a (insert MM socket size) & a half. But god forbid you get them warped on a Renegade for example. Or they're just so rounded and fucked from repetitive abuse that you have to look for alternative options.. whoever's idea that was should be flayed alive as slowly as possible in public. And don't get me started on some of these bullshit cheap ass wheel lock lugnuts either. Where the owner either loses the key socket or has such poor quality on the design (along with idiots who overtighten them) the key breaks, which then requires extraction, much like the chrome capped lugnuts eventually do if not replaced soon enough..
Hey man, came across your channel a few days ago and it's been helping me learn so much because I'm about to finally pick up a 2016 WRX next week, good stuff and keep the vids coming bro
I love the OEM wheels on my car. They match the trim on the rest of the vehicle. Besides sport/racing wheels would look silly on a Lincoln Town Car. Maybe I should get a GTR, oh yeah.
A lot of people buy based solely by looks. I spent a lot of time looking for the lightest forged wheel I could get. I went from a 17 in rim to an 18 in rim and my new rims are 5 lbs lighter than the factory wheels that came on the car, that's a reduction of 20 lbs unsprung weight. Any racer knows if you reduce your unsprung weight, you can reap great suspension benefits. I'm happy, just have to be very careful to avoid curb rash.
Jumpercable wireless Nah man, just let your girlfriend drive. The massive chunks of aluminum that come out of the wheel in the Starbucks drive through will reduce your unsprung mass even more
@@jumpercable20 Absolutely.. but its not just weight but centripetal force... Bigger is slower due to the increased lever arm of the mass being further away from the center slowing down braking and accel... Not sure without doing the math, but you may be slower with the lighter wheels since you went bigger. I always laugh to myself when people think they have light wheels. I was happy getting 18lb in an 18", but my race car wheels were 9lb lol. I went down from 19 to 18 for the performance benefit, being better in both weight and mass distribution
almost all of the car brands that advertise their oem wheels are forged are flow-form forged. Pagani is the only company that comes to mind that actually has truly forged wheels from stock, though i could be forgetting another brand.
some of the people who ask where its made, are more focused on where the money is going. like if the money is going to a place that could fund a nations military opposing ours.
I love this young man. Entertaining, knowledgable, factual and just a smidge too quick for this old dude. BTW: When a product is imported, the onus is on the importer, as that is whose specifications must be met?
Thats a long intro and I really liked that 'news' edit with the headlines part. Fun to see what happens when the editors lease is loose One thing you could add is when you have the click subscribe animation you could slap the current sub count on the sub button to keep the hype for the next milestone. Maybe.
Been playing your videos all day and noticed in one of them that you guys were really hating on E85. I feel like you guys have been exposed to a lot of the negative misconceptions associated with E85 and may not fully understand it's best intended uses... it's an inexpensive race fuel. It's more resistant to knock than 110 octane, burns significantly cooler than gasoline, makes more torque than gasoline, is an amazing detergent and keeps your engine internals clean AF! It's not meant for fuel economy. It has its place and is HUGE in the racing community from turbo Civics to procharged Corvettes. Everybody that loves boost either runs E85 or wishes they could be running E85. Its effing magical!!!
Americans don't have e85 at any pumps tho, some have to drive 2 hours for it, so they just hate it from that. A gas station 2 mins from here has it for me. And the rest of the gasation in the country in Sweden.
I wasn't aware of any of this. Well done Mr. Alex, This is like the fifth video of yours as I was planning on buying some new coil overs and some new wheels for my VW MK2. After watching your videos I have decided to stay STOCK and have a comfortable ride vs. low pro tires. Not sure on the wheels yet. I have some org 13 from a rabbit 🐰 who is from Germany. And some factory struts. Thanks for your help.
I happen to like OEM wheels better than most aftermarket wheels. Unless you get into $1500+ wheels, most aftermarket wheels are heavier. Many of them are hideous, harder to clean, don't fit right, require different lug nuts. Anyone who likes aftermarket wheels, keep it up. I'll buy the OEM ones for cheaper. 😛 My understanding is that they have to specify "made in the USA with imported materials" or "assembled in the USA"
Wheels huh. Unless you are racing, good tires more than anything will make your car perform better. I have spent many years gravity and low pressure casting wheels for motorcycles, cars and trailers and can tell you this. If they meet manufacturing standards they are all made of using the same strontium modified 601-603 grade aluminum alloy metal. Unless you are a race engineer with an expertise in vehicle dynamics, weight does not matter. Ie: heavy wheels on a light chassis will perform better than light wheels on a heavy chassis. Cheap aftermarket wheels just like cheap tires can have balacing trouble aswell. The quality in an alloy wheel is mainly in how well balanced it is along with the load rating regardless of the manufacturing technique wether it be cast or forged, single or multi piece If you want to put aftermarket wheels on your daily try and stick to the manufacturers specs or you will reduce the life of your suspension and power steering components. If you choose your wheels purely on how they look like the stance boys, or the guys who just seem to shove the biggest wheels possible under the guards just so they can say they've got 22's Dont expect better handling or peformance. But hey at the end of the day spend your money on what you want. Better off building a sweet ride than picking up a crack habit.
Lots of mis info in this. Most wheels are not made in China. There are only 3-4 companies that make all the wheels for the entire world. Each has several factories/foundries worldwide. The least amount in China. Maxion is headquartered here in Michigan where I live. They are the largest wheel manufacturer in the world. Out of their dozens of factories, only 2 are in China. Also wheels are just branded w different names. Has nothing to do with small brands needing to partner up with others to order. In fact they don’t do that at all. The brand only does the design/style of the wheel. They pay the factory company to produce them. The actual companies that make them don’t make their own brand. They make them for others. I’m not sure where u got your info. You can order one single prototype wheel to millions marketed for sale.
Quite informative sir now if perhaps could you vid a piece which concerns the failure rates of oem as against "the aftermarkets" now i live in a third world country with main roads to extremes of debiliatory conditions so you can see my growing concern, now does looking good equate to safe?
Thanks to silly folks who love giant wheels they’re now standard equipment on so many vehicles. Now even Lexus shudder over rough bumps and can blow their tyres off from high speed pot hole hits. Giant wheels are clown shoes for your car and cripple its ride. Now I gotta go charge my phone because it’s so stupidly thin there’s not enough battery in it. Form over Function is for Fools.
M773 But you sound like an excellent person who’s life is rich with meaningful relationships and who inspires true respect from all the other excellent people you attract.
The wheels are mostly bigger because they have larger brakes. My 1987 mustang had like 10inch front disks because stopping wasn't important and my car weighed 3100lbs . My 2015 has 15inch brakes and weighs 3750lbs so a 15 inch wheel wont cut it . Phones last just as long . If I turn off all the features on my Samsung and just use it like a phone I will probably only need to charge it once a week.
Another moron whining about the fictional "good ol days" where we drove cars dreams were made of (they were really 100hp shit boxes with crank windows). Everything now is better in terms of technology, options & efficiency. If you want a bigger sidewall/comfort, just buy that option!! Any normal car out there has 16-17" rims as the base option. Coupled with taller tire height you're gonna get just as much sidewall/comfort as in the "good ol days". More importantly people who want brembos/bigger rims (for looks) and stiffer sidewalls for cornering have the option to buy exactly that. Some people prefer that handling/looks over the comfort and their desire is just as valid as yours. Your phone's battery has TEN times more milli amp hours per cm^3 than any "good ol days" phone you ever had. Except YOU use your current phone now for 100x different things and more features so you deplete that battery in a day. Even then, if you're so devoted to "function over form", why dont you just buy a $30 battery phone case to double the thickness and double the battery life??? Try to think for once, before you whine on and on about life. You are a lot more fortunate than you think.
Aftermarket wheels are fine if they flow with the car. Most people slap wheels on and it ruins the look. You can tell from the spoke design, size, and offset. Too many get wheels and it looks as though a 5 year old designed a car.
@JezBollah 667 Forged wheels are made to be lighter. Not stronger unless it weighs as much as a cast variant. My volks are 16 lbs a piece and bend easily compared to the forged OEM BBS's I have that are heavy, 22lbs, but forged. Forged for strength not for weight savings. Quite a lot of differences. Just buy a wheel that fits your budget. I'd pressure cast with the idea of replacement in mind. Also thicker profile tires.
@JezBollah 667 I think the Germans do wheels right. BMW's always look great IMO. All my Lexus's have different wheels. My comfy ride is an SUV so when my back aches the wife takes the "sports car" lol. That way I get to keep the aggressive wheels :D
Question...I have a 2018 infiniti q50 red sport. I will be lowering my car with rsr springs. Can I run a 20x9.5 in the front and a 20x10.5 in the rear with any rubbing? Would I have to roll the fenders in the front?
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Fitment Industries are fuel wheels produced here in America? If yes my wheels have a lot of orange peel here and there and the lip has a bump and the shop I went to told me that fuel wheels don’t cover that as warranty.
I actually do not know where they are made or much of anything about this truck wheel sorry man!
Asking a genesis coupe owner questions.
Fitment Industries I would love to know whose idea it to make cars look like they've been dropped off a building.
When you stop with the annoying background "music" I'll come back an subscribe!
i got kicked out of my high school sex ed class last year cause we were talking about sexually transmitted infections and when ask which one i thought was the most common STI i said probably the 02 to 05 blobeye generation
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And then everyone clapped
@@melody3741 lmao I wish, a couple people laughed but I think they we're laughing at me not with me. *My class is full of normies*
Andy Boswell
r/whooooooosh
under a r/thathappened comment.
@@andyboswell3590 in case you didn't pick up on it, i made a joke because a lot of people who tell unbelievable fake stories say "and then everyone clapped", so I was implying your story was fake. But tbh it seems pretty believable. I just didn't think someone would kick you out of class for making such an innocent joke.
I still want nismo stocks on everything
YES
I used to work for a wheel distributor and my experience with aftermarket wheels is that they usually are Chinese made, they are heavy and they are of low quality. In my experience, they were usually universal fit and were blank at the lug area and we would put them on the CNC machine to drill the proper lug pattern for the vehicle they were going on. The offset was usually just in the general vicinity of what was required (sometimes we would use spacers). Centering them required the use of hub rings which was a different size ring for every different make. The worst part was when a client would curb or crash his/her vehicle and we couldn't sell them just one or two replacement rim(s). Common problems were the yellowing and peeling of the chrome. Since that experience, I've never replaced the wheels on any car I've owned unless it was with a different style rim from the same make of the vehicle.
They are called hub centric rings.
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It's not where the wheels are made, it's all about quality material and quality control.
China only uses the finest in cheap materials and there is no quality control. Don't buy fitment wheels unless you like paying top dollar for shit products.
@HexagramMan hes not racist, what kind of quality do you believe you get from people paid almost nothing ? Everyone on planet earth knows everything manufacturered in China for cars is crap save for you ....... Its not racist , its true.
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@@slaughterandmayhem Chinese companies will make what you want, if you want cheap product they will make it and if you want top notch product they will make it. Its to what you want from them and how much you will pay.
Thats why Dub wheels are the best, made in US.
I would take Japan made wheels anyday compared to US made in same price range.
I bet you drive a sub $10k shitbox too
BBS Forged,Rays,HRE,CCW and IForged...Expensive yes, but you get what you pay for.
TUV approved wheels bottom line. Enkei builds excellent wheels that are rotary forged. HRE's forged line is super expensive to get into. BBS, Rays at least give you more options which is nice.
@@d1sturb3d119 What does TUV Stand for?
In this context, you are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!👍🏼
Technischer ÜberwachungsVerein, Englisch: Technical Inspection Association.
It’s a governmentally recognized private organization that does testing including motor vehicle safety and emissions inspection in Germany.
LMAO @ 6:40 as the fender lip wedges between the rim and the tire...jankity-jank
EEK!
Pft. Who needs tires anyway. Weight reduction.
Lol I just saw that. Jank
TLDR: most wheels are made in asia
saved you 9 minutes
@Menachem Goldfarb China is in Asia. Asia's just a continent.
@@xxxod hes not wrong tho
If you don’t understand why it’s more money in oem wheels here’s a better explaination. I used to work in a wheel refurbishing plant in Tampa. I did quality assurance, wheel/wheel cover/steel wheel selection, work orders, customer wheels, shipping and stock wheel transfers. I used to have to balance 48 to 56 wheels depending on size on 3 to 4 pallets sometimes more. Most where transfers and usually 2 were customer ships. The transfers were all stock wheels. It more Money in stock wheels because people replace oem wheels more due to wrecks and ware and tear. Most of the wrecked wheels came from up north where it snows of course. I’d ship dozens of pallets of stock wheels to Miami every week.
i don’t like aftermarket rims their too fast for my car 🚗😔🚶🏻♂️
Nobody thinks the wheel made in Japan is garbage...
Yes, I also thought the same...
I really don't know why they mentionned JAPAN after the other two countries...
smh
Facts
I think boomers might? But they don't buy aftermarket wheels...
Honestly, I'd probably buy a Chinese wheel before an American wheel
@@Kev27RS the only Japanese wheel people think our crappy is enkei
So many "Made is USA" things aren't really made in the USA anyways.
Regarding the Made in USA tag. Let's be honest most wheels produced overseas are better quality. In fact that's mostly true to entire vehicles not just the wheels!
Like a salesman used to tell me, when the product is good WE (salesman) don't need to sell it! The buyers simply show up and BUY it... Harley Davidson being a prime example. LOL 😂
Yo it was my first time watching a Fi video with earphones. Was bobbin my head whole way through. Gotta appreciate the background beat. So dope
I'm glad you mention that outside US wheel manufacturers are often much better than US ones.. just mention BBS and OZ.. enough said.
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first minute was simply self advertising and i find it amusing
I run Forgeline wheels because they're high quality competition wheels which are made in America. :)
You're right. Forged parts has more material per size, which means it's harder because of the metal density. With that extra material that indeed adds mass though. What I love about mulitpiece wheels is the fact you can sorta 'mix-n-match' combinations, and if you get struck in an accident and your rim got broken, you can go replace the damaged part.
The truth about the industry nowadays is that you can never make it alone, unlike back in the days that subtle differences makes a huge difference, but with the mass production sameness of today you can not really complain anymore. You're better off with a custom set of wheels of you really want 'strict' customization.
Finally someone that explains the whole alloy and metals manufacturing and finishing origin. it just doesnt stop at wheels , its from everything from kitchen knives to tool boxes to building materials. thats why we have stuff from overseas and vice versa that are actually good
3:27
Japan??
What's bad about wheels being produced in Japan??
Didn't expect the country to appear at all, after mentioning the other two countries...
Yea. What's bad about ANYTHING being produced in Japan??
@@RanjMN
Right?!
Nothing at all!
Kev27RS He was being lazy and wrong about Japanese wheels
One of the best looking rims ever made the Volk Racing Te37 come from Japan
Nothing
Aftermarket wheels are mostly crap (speaking as somebody who worked at a tire shop) . If you want to increase your fuel consuption , lower the comfortability of your drive or simply make a guy that changes your tires hate you , you should definitely buy aftermarket wheels.
Very underrated comment! Can't agree more! I was 18 once (long ago) and like all others. Also had my fair share of "I want...".
A mechanical degree and a lot of experience, was just about enough. To learn that OEM wheels steelies or alloys. Still gather by far and wide the best advantages for the particular vehicle! And tend to be the best combination of money/performance!
If we're talking about major mods, you need to dig deep! Not just on your knowledge. But way deeper on your pockets. Because, trust me on this, you'll be paying for those "stupid" choice wheels. Way after you spend your money buying them! ;-)
Some people talk shit abt xxr wheels yet they've been proven to withstand daily, drag and especially drifting. I personally had my xxr 527 wheels on my s13 for 6yrs & drift & daily. No problems
Hey man, I was looking at a set o XXR's for my speed3! You should upload your ride to our gallery we'd love to see it sometime! bit.ly/2Ma4oca
OEM wheels are actually AFTERMARKET wheels...
since brands like *O.Z* and *BBS* produce wheels for a lot of car manufacturers.
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Theres some truth to this.
My Dad's '98 Grand Prix had Enkei cast into the factory 5 spoke wheels. All USDM RX-7 S4 convertibles had BBS meshies... a walk through the junkyard can really be an education on "factory" wheels- often they are cast behind the spokes if the car company didn't want to "advertise" who made the wheels.
@@rotorhead5826 Nice!
Yes, true. 👍
Rotor Head enkeis?
OEM are contracted. They are not aftermarket. OEM give wheel manufacturers a design and they make them. Those wheel design are property of Nissan/Honda/Toyota.
There is a difference between what you considered aftermarket and oem. This is due to wheel sizes, the ones contracted or OEM may not be the one most optimal for what you are going for. Aftermarket wheels are usually bought with specific specifications with the upmost consideration for a need such as stance/bags, speed, or friction
If it is made in Japan, is good!!!
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And its Jdm as fuck bro😂
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ivan rivas their wheels are too soft.
who makes the hard wheels? @@DIgitusSmartas
This is great behind the scenes Aftermarket Wheels Industry knowledge!
i got an ad on youtube from you at the begining and i thought the video had started
Thanks for the interesting and informative video, Alex.
The OEM wheels on my 370Z sport pkg are Rays 19" forged aluminum monoblocks that are made in Japan, weighing 23 & 24 lbs.
The replacement wheels I'm getting are from Litespeed Racing in LA. They are 19" forged magnesium monoblocks that weigh about 14 to 15 lbs in my sizes, 19 x 9 & 19 x 10. One of the reasons that I chose this company is that their wheels are entirely designed and manufactured here in California from the metal alloys they formulate to the hydraulic presses and CNC milling machines and lathes.
Years ago when I was buying gear for my electric bass, I purposely sought out stuff that was designed and made in the US. I did have to pay more but it was worth it to me, as I never had any quality issues with the equipment and the instrument was not difficult to set up and maintain its setup.
The point of all this is that I believe there are good choices for people in finding US made products, if people are willing to pay a little extra for good design and good quality of construction. My ex used to waste tons of money on cheaply made shoes made abroad that never felt good and that fell apart quickly. She wound up spending more in the long run than she would have if she had just bought some well-made shoes from the start. The Michelin tires that I put on my car are more expensive than those brands made in Asia but the cost per actual mile driven over the lifespan of the tire is no more than the cost of any other decent quality tires.
Now why would you go with those glasses when they make the exact same pair in carbon fiber? :P
Underappreciated.
Hollow carbon rims should be the next big wheel craze.
This channel should have 500k subs right about now.
Almost to 100k!!!
Keep on making videos so I'll keep watching them. You guys are awesome. More cars to come. 🤙🤙🤙
The amount of people in the comments tugging the OEMs chain as far as wheels is sickening . Decent flow formed aftermarket wheels that dont cost alot can be much stronger and lighter than most cast wheels and they usually look better too in many cases. There is simply bad info being thrown around in this video and in the comments. Yall can stick to your boat anchor stock wheels while I'll continue to upgrade my cars to wheels that look better and are lighter and stronger while not spending a ton of cash.
Eh can't save em all.
Same with AR-15 parts. Lowers are made by just a handful of companies and everyone puts their own logo on it.
You guys killed the crazy jump cuts and now the video flows much more smoothly :D love the channel, keep up the awesomeness!
barely understood a thing since I kept looking at that Porsche in the backgrond
The title of the video should have been something like. "Where Aftermarket Wheels are Made.
Japan....Rays Engineering...They make wheels like Volk.
Oh my God..... I forgot he did this series.... this was such a good series being it back!!!!
Bros, seriously my favorite vid! I want more of the nerd side of all this. You should make something specifically for people who want to learn more...nerd out on me yo!
Very educational, great video
For some reason I trust the Lexus engineers who worked for four years in developing my LC to make the proper forged wheel on a supercar, over the vast majority of companies who make the aftermarket type. Style aside (which is very personal BTW) I won't be replacing them, besides I think the 21'' wheels of my LC look great.
I needed this channel in high school. Maybe it would’ve kept me from being shoved in so many lockers if I would’ve known 16 inch chrome wheels on a Pontiac grand am wasn’t cool. Ughhhhhhh
BBS and Ronal have for years made both oem and racing wheels
One is bread and butter and the other is for fun
Alex love your videos mann!!!! But BBS does make oem wheels for a couple car companies
My ISFs OEM wheels are BBS
Theres a miata edition that comes with bbs rs
Yeah lots of bmw came with BBS and BBS/Mahle wheels, since beginning of times!
There’s also some AMGs I believe, and Toyotas
Well young people!!!!! BBS actually made wheels back in the late 80s for the convertible RX7. The only car full convertible or targa top. This is when Maxda and Porsche looked like twins.
But there 3 peice wheels are still an Aftermarket beast!
Economies of scale, and the "general" populations here in Merica' not keeping up with mathematical yearly inflation rate on the earning side. Great information as usual.
I've had to work on cars for a while and am working on getting out the industry. One of the reasons is because of the idiots who don't do their homework, buy cheap ass aftermarket shit with multiple stud patterns, and don't buy hub centering rings.. then when told it would help not only improve their ride quality, save them parts damage, as well as make your job easier.. refuse to. Then they're back a week later complaining about a vibration.. again. Second, this is for the manufacturers, not so much an issue with the wheel itself. But the bullshit factory lugnuts now that come with those sorry ass chrome caps that expand. Not that big of a deal when they can be handled by a (insert MM socket size) & a half. But god forbid you get them warped on a Renegade for example. Or they're just so rounded and fucked from repetitive abuse that you have to look for alternative options.. whoever's idea that was should be flayed alive as slowly as possible in public. And don't get me started on some of these bullshit cheap ass wheel lock lugnuts either. Where the owner either loses the key socket or has such poor quality on the design (along with idiots who overtighten them) the key breaks, which then requires extraction, much like the chrome capped lugnuts eventually do if not replaced soon enough..
Hey man, came across your channel a few days ago and it's been helping me learn so much because I'm about to finally pick up a 2016 WRX next week, good stuff and keep the vids coming bro
Thanks man don't forget to upload your ride to our gallery we would love to see pics of the WRX! bit.ly/2Ma4oca
Please can you advise the public about low profile tires.
I love the OEM wheels on my car. They match the trim on the rest of the vehicle. Besides sport/racing wheels would look silly on a Lincoln Town Car. Maybe I should get a GTR, oh yeah.
Explain the effects of angular momentum of heavy rims!
That was really one of the best videos I've seen this year.
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So many wheels are so much worse than factory, and so many people make their cars perform worse just for looks... ewww...
An ugly look at that.
A lot of people buy based solely by looks. I spent a lot of time looking for the lightest forged wheel I could get. I went from a 17 in rim to an 18 in rim and my new rims are 5 lbs lighter than the factory wheels that came on the car, that's a reduction of 20 lbs unsprung weight. Any racer knows if you reduce your unsprung weight, you can reap great suspension benefits. I'm happy, just have to be very careful to avoid curb rash.
Jumpercable wireless Nah man, just let your girlfriend drive. The massive chunks of aluminum that come out of the wheel in the Starbucks drive through will reduce your unsprung mass even more
@@jumpercable20 Absolutely.. but its not just weight but centripetal force... Bigger is slower due to the increased lever arm of the mass being further away from the center slowing down braking and accel... Not sure without doing the math, but you may be slower with the lighter wheels since you went bigger. I always laugh to myself when people think they have light wheels. I was happy getting 18lb in an 18", but my race car wheels were 9lb lol. I went down from 19 to 18 for the performance benefit, being better in both weight and mass distribution
almost all of the car brands that advertise their oem wheels are forged are flow-form forged. Pagani is the only company that comes to mind that actually has truly forged wheels from stock, though i could be forgetting another brand.
BBS wheels on any F variant Lexus are all forged.
You are the linus tech tips of the car world
some of the people who ask where its made, are more focused on where the money is going. like if the money is going to a place that could fund a nations military opposing ours.
I love this young man. Entertaining, knowledgable, factual and just a smidge too quick for this old dude. BTW: When a product is imported, the onus is on the importer, as that is whose specifications must be met?
4:36 I thought Vossens were made in America, but you show them when you were talking about wheels made overseas.
Are wheel companies ever gonna come out with the old school wheel designs? I sure hope so
Nope Cause They Don't Give Af About Us. I Want Those Damn BBS Rs
They are already doing that...
Kinda...
8:08 so true! in my eyes only 2 cars have come out in the last 10 years and managed not to do this the Toyota 86 and the R35 GT-R
and now that i think about it even some of the R35 concept cars were completely ridiculous
Alex man love your channel!
Alex knows his sh*t. Guy does some serious homework. With that being said he looks like Mega Mind.
People should check weight ratings also
Thats a long intro and I really liked that 'news' edit with the headlines part. Fun to see what happens when the editors lease is loose
One thing you could add is when you have the click subscribe animation you could slap the current sub count on the sub button to keep the hype for the next milestone. Maybe.
I like your thought process!
Been playing your videos all day and noticed in one of them that you guys were really hating on E85. I feel like you guys have been exposed to a lot of the negative misconceptions associated with E85 and may not fully understand it's best intended uses... it's an inexpensive race fuel. It's more resistant to knock than 110 octane, burns significantly cooler than gasoline, makes more torque than gasoline, is an amazing detergent and keeps your engine internals clean AF! It's not meant for fuel economy. It has its place and is HUGE in the racing community from turbo Civics to procharged Corvettes. Everybody that loves boost either runs E85 or wishes they could be running E85. Its effing magical!!!
Americans don't have e85 at any pumps tho, some have to drive 2 hours for it, so they just hate it from that. A gas station 2 mins from here has it for me. And the rest of the gasation in the country in Sweden.
@@alexstromberg7696 what are you talking about thats only in commiefornia in florida we have gas stations with racing fuel and e85
@@alexstromberg7696 here in Indiana it's everywhere
Can’t find it in Arizona either.
@@willpower1177 is everywhere every single station? Or 30 min apart?
Thanks for the info, was interesting. But cut down the editing and zooming, it´s annoying a f.
Wheel History..... of Fitment Industries??????????????
ON THE WAY HOMIE!
That intro though... Take my like, sir.
I don't think I have ever seen 3 piece on a track day, but all over a car show.
4:46 that pandering was priceless!!! 😂🤣😂🤣🤣😂💀💀
I wasn't aware of any of this. Well done Mr. Alex, This is like the fifth video of yours as I was planning on buying some new coil overs and some new wheels for my VW MK2. After watching your videos I have decided to stay STOCK and have a comfortable ride vs. low pro tires. Not sure on the wheels yet. I have some org 13 from a rabbit 🐰 who is from Germany.
And some factory struts. Thanks for your help.
Where can i see more of the brz/frs that's in the thumbnail
Your oppinion about politics is just the best! LOL!
I happen to like OEM wheels better than most aftermarket wheels. Unless you get into $1500+ wheels, most aftermarket wheels are heavier. Many of them are hideous, harder to clean, don't fit right, require different lug nuts. Anyone who likes aftermarket wheels, keep it up. I'll buy the OEM ones for cheaper. 😛
My understanding is that they have to specify "made in the USA with imported materials" or "assembled in the USA"
Used wheels exist. Bought my volks for 900 bucks. 16lbs a piece. Search for deals. They exist.
Wheels huh. Unless you are racing, good tires more than anything will make your car perform better. I have spent many years gravity and low pressure casting wheels for motorcycles, cars and trailers and can tell you this.
If they meet manufacturing standards they are all made of using the same strontium modified 601-603 grade aluminum alloy metal.
Unless you are a race engineer with an expertise in vehicle dynamics, weight does not matter. Ie: heavy wheels on a light chassis will perform better than light wheels on a heavy chassis.
Cheap aftermarket wheels just like cheap tires can have balacing trouble aswell. The quality in an alloy wheel is mainly in how well balanced it is along with the load rating regardless of the manufacturing technique wether it be cast or forged, single or multi piece
If you want to put aftermarket wheels on your daily try and stick to the manufacturers specs or you will reduce the life of your suspension and power steering components.
If you choose your wheels purely on how they look like the stance boys, or the guys who just seem to shove the biggest wheels possible under the guards just so they can say they've got 22's Dont expect better handling or peformance.
But hey at the end of the day spend your money on what you want. Better off building a sweet ride than picking up a crack habit.
I like the analogy at the end 😂
Lots of mis info in this. Most wheels are not made in China. There are only 3-4 companies that make all the wheels for the entire world. Each has several factories/foundries worldwide. The least amount in China. Maxion is headquartered here in Michigan where I live. They are the largest wheel manufacturer in the world. Out of their dozens of factories, only 2 are in China. Also wheels are just branded w different names. Has nothing to do with small brands needing to partner up with others to order. In fact they don’t do that at all. The brand only does the design/style of the wheel. They pay the factory company to produce them. The actual companies that make them don’t make their own brand. They make them for others. I’m not sure where u got your info. You can order one single prototype wheel to millions marketed for sale.
Lets get a Forgiato video!!
Quite informative sir now if perhaps could you vid a piece which concerns the failure rates of oem as against "the aftermarkets" now i live in a third world country with main roads to extremes of debiliatory conditions so you can see my growing concern, now does looking good equate to safe?
Very good point! You’d be surprised how badly you can get hurt if your ride is to low!
Thanks to silly folks who love giant wheels they’re now standard equipment on so many vehicles. Now even Lexus shudder over rough bumps and can blow their tyres off from high speed pot hole hits.
Giant wheels are clown shoes for your car and cripple its ride.
Now I gotta go charge my phone because it’s so stupidly thin there’s not enough battery in it. Form over Function is for Fools.
M773 But you sound like an excellent person who’s life is rich with meaningful relationships and who inspires true respect from all the other excellent people you attract.
The wheels are mostly bigger because they have larger brakes. My 1987 mustang had like 10inch front disks because stopping wasn't important and my car weighed 3100lbs . My 2015 has 15inch brakes and weighs 3750lbs so a 15 inch wheel wont cut it . Phones last just as long . If I turn off all the features on my Samsung and just use it like a phone I will probably only need to charge it once a week.
Another moron whining about the fictional "good ol days" where we drove cars dreams were made of (they were really 100hp shit boxes with crank windows).
Everything now is better in terms of technology, options & efficiency. If you want a bigger sidewall/comfort, just buy that option!! Any normal car out there has 16-17" rims as the base option. Coupled with taller tire height you're gonna get just as much sidewall/comfort as in the "good ol days". More importantly people who want brembos/bigger rims (for looks) and stiffer sidewalls for cornering have the option to buy exactly that. Some people prefer that handling/looks over the comfort and their desire is just as valid as yours.
Your phone's battery has TEN times more milli amp hours per cm^3 than any "good ol days" phone you ever had. Except YOU use your current phone now for 100x different things and more features so you deplete that battery in a day. Even then, if you're so devoted to "function over form", why dont you just buy a $30 battery phone case to double the thickness and double the battery life???
Try to think for once, before you whine on and on about life. You are a lot more fortunate than you think.
It's amazing how just changing wheels can drastically make the car look better. Porsche looks way better
Aftermarket wheels are fine if they flow with the car. Most people slap wheels on and it ruins the look. You can tell from the spoke design, size, and offset. Too many get wheels and it looks as though a 5 year old designed a car.
I lost my shit when he said "because gosh darn it I love the NFL and PBR and so do you"
The editing 😍😍 I still need to add my trok to custom offsets, but great video. I look forward to these videos
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I'd like to know if forged wheels are really "better" than cast, particularly in real world / non-racing applications.
They are , stronger and lighter.....
Thanks for the advice bro 😎
You are fantastic ! That's a awesome video with some motivation of enthusiasm about the real world , Thanks !
Those RF2 in the rear.... want
Damn, if only there was a company like that ;)
That color in the thumbnail 🔥
I thought you were going to have information specific to wheels..you're just describing every industry
Which type of wheel is strongest(avoiding bending) For northeast living with very bad roads? Cast/forged/2piece? Materials?
I would recommend maybe some Konig wheels or maybe Enkei wheels, or wildcard here some Motegi's
@JezBollah 667 Forged wheels are made to be lighter. Not stronger unless it weighs as much as a cast variant. My volks are 16 lbs a piece and bend easily compared to the forged OEM BBS's I have that are heavy, 22lbs, but forged. Forged for strength not for weight savings. Quite a lot of differences. Just buy a wheel that fits your budget. I'd pressure cast with the idea of replacement in mind. Also thicker profile tires.
@JezBollah 667 I think the Germans do wheels right. BMW's always look great IMO. All my Lexus's have different wheels.
My comfy ride is an SUV so when my back aches the wife takes the "sports car" lol.
That way I get to keep the aggressive wheels :D
TLDR, Buy Volks
Maybe you should reach out and talk with someone that actually works for BBS to get some actual facts about the company.
the black quadrifoglio wheels on the stelvio are the best oem wheels imo. so sexy
Finally got rid of those red wheels 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🥜🥜🥜 looks a million times better
Question...I have a 2018 infiniti q50 red sport. I will be lowering my car with rsr springs. Can I run a 20x9.5 in the front and a 20x10.5 in the rear with any rubbing? Would I have to roll the fenders in the front?
Check out our gallery to dial in your specs! www.fitmentindustries.com/wheel-offset-gallery?year=2018&make=Infiniti&model=Q50&sort=date
Alex is my favorite teacher😂😅
Am I the only idiot who thinks anything made in the US is trash.
I only buy wheels and parts from Germany or Japan.