Two huge things no one ever seems to mention regarding the a7IV video that Im glad you did. In 4K 24 and 30, its oversampled from 7K,. The a7S III comes nowhere close to that resolution as it can only do around 4.2K. Also, the crop on the a7IV 4K 60 is no big deal. Most every cinema camera from ARRI, RED, as well as the Sony and Canon cinema cameras, have sensors around the same size as that (APS-C) crop in 4K 60 on the a7IV. I chose the a7IV. Its $1k cheaper, its a TON better for photo, has a better AF system, separate photo and video settings, 7K resolution video and I dont need 240fps. Its pretty much the perfect camera IMO.
Resolution doesn't matter. People love to crop in 400% to show you a minor difference. But where in cinema are you cropping in 400%? The uncropped images side by side look the exact same. The terrible rolling shutter makes the Sony a7IV a no go for me.
Sony people when Canon's old cameras have a video crop: OMG! Canon is crippling their cameras! Sony people in 2022 when Sony cameras have a video crop: OMG! It's a huge bonus! Cinema cameras have this feature!
@@evan Yes, you could. Just back up the camera to alleviate the crop if possible. Secondly out of curiosity, what is your crucial need for 4k 50p? Even if you're editing 4K and outputting 1080 the A7IVs downsampled 7k will result in an excellent image.
@@dslrvideoshooter it wasn’t until I went to film a video with the a7S3 and FX3 that I noticed the a7IV wasn’t recording after pushing the remote 🤦🏻♂️
I know a lot of people hate sensor crop, and it is a bummer to have one at 4k60, but I LOVE that you can enable super 35 at anytime. When doing close up b-roll it is so nice to be able to crop if you need it and I use sensor cropping as extra zoom all the time.
@@jaycarl1562 I did buy the a7iV and personally I love having the sensor crop option. I have run into it a few times that it is a bummer at 4k60, but personally I have used it to give me some extra crop on my lens almost every video I film. I am primarily using a 28-70 sigma, so that super 35 mode helps me get it more to the 105mm which I like because I used to film almost exclusively on a 28-105.
I found the comparison of the two cameras when zooming in on the video recording + the photo quality with increasing ISO to be the best part of this test. Also the list of video settings of both cameras. A REALLY GOOD AND USEFUL COMPARISON.
The detail difference is mind blowing! Also the fact that you can customize that exposure comp dial is amazing. ALSO as someone who uses little hdmi to usb boxes for webcams constantly having it built in is amazing. I think the a7IV is the one for me! Didn’t realize the low light was so good on it!
Well hes just wrong about that idk. I literally plugged my fx3 (same thing as a7s3) into my computer yesterday via usbc and sony imaging edge software and it worked first time as a webcam. No hassle no fuss. So not sure why he thinks you cant do that or need a hdmi to usb capture card. You dont.
Finally, a truly unbiased comparison of specs and general performance! So tired of seeing people who clearly favor one over the other do a "comparison". They are both great cameras and each have their pros and cons relative to what the user needs.
Really love the last " what you'd get for a 1000$ more " . So effective imo. I would personally invest in lenses more than having 120fps or 4k uncropped etc ... being more photo than videos anyway . Again great comparison
also the 1080 120p over sample on the A7IV for me looks great if I really need 120 uncropped which I rarely do. and I did the same spent the money of lenses instead.
My main problem with the a7iv is the lack of IR remote support, as I use that to sync the timecode on my other sony cameras when going 3-4-5 camera setup. Shame.
Can you please talk about, or anyone for that matter to encourage Sony to put integral raw like R5 and R5c, or come out with a firmware update for Integral law light for A7sIII. this one thing will put Sony ahead, its surprising that FX6 and FX9 don't have internal raw.
Whilst I think the 1000$ for the A7siii is worth it for video/cinematography focused users. The 33mp and A1 processor make a big difference in photography. As a hybrid shooter and someone who does both jobs at weddings A74 sits best with me. Plus leaves 1000 towards a new lens
not in a financial position to purchase just yet but ive had my eye on the A7sIII but with this review the A7IV is now making me wonder how important the HFR is.....hmmm options. thank you for this video, you've got a new subscriber :) thank you
Caleb! Those sensors are now in a7cII and zve1, I’d like the best quality image for my travel and sports videos. Which sensor/image do you like better out of these? Can’t leave Sony due to AF needs. Thanks 🙏 💕
Caleb's LUT pack for the FX3/A7siii is one of the most slept on imo. It gives you such an amazing starting point with accurate skin tones to develop a creative look for your footage, AND it costs 10x less than many of its competitors on the market.
Thank you so much for the plug! After getting hundreds of messages about the price being to low I finally listened and increased the price. Never thought I would get that kind of feedback ha!
The rolling shutter really isn’t a big deal on the 7iv. I can’t really see it being an issue except for in specific use cases. Which in those cases, like filming races or birds flying or something like that, just switch over to aps-c mode and get the improvement. It’s still being downsampled from 4.6k to 4k so it’s gonna look fantastic no matter how you shoot with it.
2 things A7S3 has clear image zoom in 4k. I use Sigma 16mm f1.4 APSC lens with 1.2crop no issues. Also with color accuracy your the first person I've seen say A7IV is more accurate? When other channels that have done this test with skin tones show opposite. A7IV picture was always Darker and colors shift towards a purple when pushed or pulled while A7S3 held color accuracy better even with alot of noise. But this can all be fixed in Post of course the 10bit offers enough play. I say best bang for buck is A7IV, people that get A7S3 already know they need that high ISO when your traveling documenting film and get your lights jacked by the locals, you make sure your camera has enough ISO to naturally light the scene or use a lamp or street light etc. Cause your not about to start carrying lights everywhere with people that can barely afford the keep the lights on in the house. Shits rough out here. Lol. Buy within your needs and Budget both camera are amazing for what they offer. I have an A7S3 and I'm not selling it for A7IV. If you do or plan to do TH-cam, media influencer, commercial work where you get to set up rigs and lights go A7IV. And your documentary style no set ups except natural and pocket lights I think A7S3 if for you. Just my Opinion, not a fact. At the end do whatever you wanna do.
I just got both last month! I find that having one of each makes everything flexible, and since I use primes I basically get a different focal length at 4k60 on the A7IV. I have a feeling the A7siii would get a firmware update with focus mapping, breathing comp, etc.
You just saved me one of the biggest frustrations with the A7iv, I got so use to the IR Remote control function on the A7S3. Glad to know at least Bluetooth is an option on the A7iv
I'm thinking about getting your A7 IV guide. I see it's for videos - does it also include a good amount of info for photos (and tips for lenses - video and photo or for both?)
Why the A7IV with 33mp sensor would overheats in 4k60 Full Frame and the A1 with 50mp sensor does not overheat in 4k60 Full Frame if both have same processor?
Really hoping for a price cut on the A7S III would be really nice to have a slowmo 4k option. My A7S II just won't cut it for that. Goddamn though, 7k is super nice for the a7 IV
I record a lot at night so a7siii for me, higher ISO, rolling shutter... the 7K is not really a big deal since the naked eye or monitors display just as good in 4K, plus it costs $1K more for a reason. Go hard or dont buy at all is my motto
Focus peaking in auto mode is kinda what I really wanted with the a7s3, cool feature, I hope a future firmwire will have some of these settings for the s3... especially breathing comp
The A7SIII is actually using a 48MP sensor. In order to get a 12mp final image, it digitally combines 4 adjacent pixels into 1. This explains why its noise performance is actually worse than the IV (split between the downsampling, the fact that the SIII's "yuuuge" photosites that everyone likes to talk about are actually much smaller than the IV's, and that pixel compositing is inherently noisy business), and why the A1 was "magically" able to do everything the SIII can do without really making any sacrifices; they're essentially using the same sensor.
The A7SIII is a BEAST in low light. Forget anything else. I have an A1 yet I purchased the A7SIII - a two year old model - because it kills in low light. It beats the A1.
That’s not really a valid comparison. One is a video camera, one is a hybrid. Totally different prices. Totally different purposes. Literally apples to bananas comparison.
Why don’t all camera makers prevent overheating by making the tripod hotshot thread part of a heat pipe exchange to allow extreme heat users to screw in a heat exchange before the tripod? This way, you wouldn’t have to risk water damage from fan air access, and not make much change inside the camera too.
I have to admit that I shoot more at 12800 than 640. It's not crazy bright as people say, like near golden hour 12800 is barely enough to have a decent exposure in Slog
@@JanSur probably you haven’t used the camera alongside the A7IV, the color is much weaker there, and even temporal NR destroys the detail making everything mushy
I've got both and the a7IV rolling shutter is unusable with a fish eye and any movement, unfortunately super 35 cropping into that lens defeats the purpose of it.
@@aldolega 😂 I have used that lens on a 5dmii and it’s great! Atm my Samyang 12mm f/2.8 is not a variable zoom; maybe if the a7RV does 10bit 4:2:2 60 un-cropped with a fast sensor read out I’ll trade my a7RIV in plus some cash for that.
I tried the Samyang 12mm on my A7III and wasn't too impressed. Ended up doing a Tokina 10-17 and using 1080p60 in FF. Looked good other than the terrible Sony 1080p quality. I doubt the rIV will have a fast readout with a clean picture. Just too many pixels to scale quickly. Maybe at low ISO's but I bet it'll be ugly in low-light. I wish Sony had kept the A7IV at 24MP so it could do FF 4K60 with decent rolling shutter.
@@aldolega I really like the Samyang 12mm on the a7SIII and I've been digging it for photos and hand held vlogging type shots, I use the 2.8 on it more then I thought I would. I'm going to be shooting some video of professional skateboarders this summer with that lens, I'm glad the a7SIII works well with it on it! I had that Tokina for my d7000 a decade ago, it's a solid lens!
hola te felicito por tus fotos tan maravillosas.yo tengo la sony a7r4 y el objetivo sony 200-600 y nunca me salen las fotos perfectamente nitidas.la configuro de 1200 a 2000 de velocidad con enfoque de seguimiento automatico rafaga alta f10 pues f5,6 a 600mm nunca sale nitida ninguna imagen.asi que no se que puede fallar en mi enfoque pues el objetivo y la camara desde que los compre no enfocan al vuelo bien nada nunca
People talk about the 2 SD card slots.. How often does an SD card fail? I'm used to working on iPhone want wanting to upgrade. Is a Sandisk memory card less reliable than onboard iPhone storage??
Another great review! I can attest as well to your extremely informative and thorough camera tutorials. I purchased your Sony A7III tutorial and you got me up and running with a full understanding of Sony's menu system. I came over from Canon, so very helpful!
Great comparison! I have both also, and noticed battery life is better on the A7SIII. Another odd change was when customizing buttons, the A7 IV doesn't have the an option to choose memory recall so it's not as easy get to the extra 4 custom memory modes. I hope they add that back in a future update.
Can the Sony a75 film 4:3 4k for long periods of time... I currently have the GH5, might upgrade to the sony next year... gh5 good although would prefair 4:3 on 4k 30/25fp3 for ticktok 9:16 & youtube 16:9, Awesome video :)
Would it be possible to unlock the 7k functionality? Why not? What would happen if it was somehow unlocked? Overheating? Or would it just not even be possible
Switching from Panasonic to Sony. Needing two cameras. Would you agree in buying both cameras instead of two a7s iii or two a7 IV. The idea is to have one camera for also shooting photos. For video interviews my understanding is that both camera will match well in a two camera shoot.
That focus peaking always on drives me crazy!!! Sony please give us the options for when we use focus peaking (AF or MF). Thanks for this video brother
*Can you do a video showing the options for using the A7IV as a 1080:60p webcam?* Which USB-c cables would you recommend for people whose laptop ONLY has USB-c/Thunderbolt [e.g. 2017 MacBook pro]. Do you need any sort of capture device? Or can a USB-c to USB-c cable be used to achieve full 1080p60? Cheers.
Excellent Caleb! Best A7IV vs A7S3 video on TH-cam letting us know everything we need to know to make a purchase decision. Your video helped me to decide going with the A7IV. Thank you my friend!!!
I went with two A7IV bodies and three A7C for weddings. The A7IVs get split with one for gimbal video and the other for raw stills. The three A7C are for video angles. All are amazing performance.
Going mirrorless from a Nikon DSLR no-investment setup. Going to start video-ing (no experience at all). Found your Oct 2019 desktop DIY setup-THANK YOU! Have decided to purchase the A7 IV (yeah, again, no Sony experience) but experts seem to like it as a hybrid and mid-cost camera. I think you like it too from what I think I heard in the last 10 seconds. I think I'll look for a 24-70mm 3rd party zoom but I noticed how the 16mm worked for you in the desktop video I referred to above, so maybe I need more input on the lens. Anyway, overall it is a struggle without video experience to figure it all out, and I just want to let you know you are appreciated for sharing what you do so well! ⭐x5
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You said a7S IV in the intro and edited it out, didn't you? 😜💜
Yes 🤫
Yep! Figured the sloppy edit was better than the comments I would have received. Thanks for turning in brotha!
@@dslrvideoshooter You Just got undone LOL Of course he noticed. I didn't catch it
I totally didn’t notice it but now that Gerald said something this is totally hilarious 😂. I love your guys friendship it’s inspiring !
You were hearing headphones when watching the video, didn’t you? 😁🙌
Not all heroes wear capes! Thanks for this detailed comparison, Caleb! 🙌🏼
Ha! Thank you so much Luke!
Granted Caleb's sweater in this one kinda looks like a gnarly cape. 😆
I didn't expect that level of detail in the sensor of the IV to let it overcome so much. Excellent comparison, hit everything I had questions about!
Two huge things no one ever seems to mention regarding the a7IV video that Im glad you did. In 4K 24 and 30, its oversampled from 7K,. The a7S III comes nowhere close to that resolution as it can only do around 4.2K. Also, the crop on the a7IV 4K 60 is no big deal. Most every cinema camera from ARRI, RED, as well as the Sony and Canon cinema cameras, have sensors around the same size as that (APS-C) crop in 4K 60 on the a7IV. I chose the a7IV. Its $1k cheaper, its a TON better for photo, has a better AF system, separate photo and video settings, 7K resolution video and I dont need 240fps. Its pretty much the perfect camera IMO.
Resolution doesn't matter. People love to crop in 400% to show you a minor difference. But where in cinema are you cropping in 400%? The uncropped images side by side look the exact same. The terrible rolling shutter makes the Sony a7IV a no go for me.
Sony people when Canon's old cameras have a video crop: OMG! Canon is crippling their cameras!
Sony people in 2022 when Sony cameras have a video crop: OMG! It's a huge bonus! Cinema cameras have this feature!
The perfect hot camera. MP chasers man I tell ya. A7iv is a mass market camera. Siii is a specialty camera.
Such an insane upgrade over the A7III though! I'm just happy it has 10 bit
but no 4k60 uncropped. wtf. it's 2022
@@jjseandxcefree You don’t really need 60fps that much unless your trying to slow your footage down a bit.
@@ezrarichardson279 eh not true. I now shoot all my main channel videos at 4k50p so that means I could never use an A7Iv as an A cam
@@evan Yes, you could. Just back up the camera to alleviate the crop if possible.
Secondly out of curiosity, what is your crucial need for 4k 50p? Even if you're editing 4K and outputting 1080 the A7IVs downsampled 7k will result in an excellent image.
Yes! That is all I wanted to see. Would have lost it if we still had to deal with 8-bit.
What a fantastic video!
So nicely done Caleb!
Thank you so much boss! Much appreciate my man.
i just checkout a7iv today , hope it will be a significant upgrade from a6400 :D
I really love the S35 crop on the a7iv. I assigned the rear joystick button press to crop in and it’s turned every lens into 2 lenses with a click.
This is an amazing idea. I’m doing it now!
So true, perfect example for the 24mm 1.4 GM, beast of a lense!! Just crop it with apc35 und you get the 35mm with 1.4f! It's an insane money saver :)
Yes! Really missed that on the A7S III.
@@tombuck I have this set on my a7c, but of course you can only do this on my a7siii in 1080p. Great option Boom!
@@LzKicker17 Yep I do this on my a7c all the time......Love my dang 24mm 1.4 GM
I only recently realized that the a7IV doesn’t have an IR sensor for the little Sony remote. That’s the biggest bummer for me since I love using it!
Yeah so sad and so expensive now!
Ya I have this $8 knock off IR remote that works well. They make a bluetooth one as well for $29 so more expensive but not crazy.
@@dslrvideoshooter it wasn’t until I went to film a video with the a7S3 and FX3 that I noticed the a7IV wasn’t recording after pushing the remote 🤦🏻♂️
Thanks a lot for the comparison. Will you make a guide video for A7iv as well?
Yes! It is in the works...
@@dslrvideoshooter Brilliant! Can't wait :D
I know a lot of people hate sensor crop, and it is a bummer to have one at 4k60, but I LOVE that you can enable super 35 at anytime. When doing close up b-roll it is so nice to be able to crop if you need it and I use sensor cropping as extra zoom all the time.
So its the A74 for you?
@@jaycarl1562 I did buy the a7iV and personally I love having the sensor crop option. I have run into it a few times that it is a bummer at 4k60, but personally I have used it to give me some extra crop on my lens almost every video I film. I am primarily using a 28-70 sigma, so that super 35 mode helps me get it more to the 105mm which I like because I used to film almost exclusively on a 28-105.
I found the comparison of the two cameras when zooming in on the video recording + the photo quality with increasing ISO to be the best part of this test. Also the list of video settings of both cameras. A REALLY GOOD AND USEFUL COMPARISON.
This video was worth $1,000! Thanks Caleb!
If I connect an external monitor to this camera, does the face tracking autofocus still work while recording internally in the camera?
Same question here
The detail difference is mind blowing! Also the fact that you can customize that exposure comp dial is amazing. ALSO as someone who uses little hdmi to usb boxes for webcams constantly having it built in is amazing. I think the a7IV is the one for me! Didn’t realize the low light was so good on it!
Well hes just wrong about that idk. I literally plugged my fx3 (same thing as a7s3) into my computer yesterday via usbc and sony imaging edge software and it worked first time as a webcam. No hassle no fuss.
So not sure why he thinks you cant do that or need a hdmi to usb capture card. You dont.
Lmfao. Detail difference is not mind blowing at all. Look at the images side by side when it isn't cropped 400%. They are the same.
Finally, a truly unbiased comparison of specs and general performance! So tired of seeing people who clearly favor one over the other do a "comparison". They are both great cameras and each have their pros and cons relative to what the user needs.
Really love the last " what you'd get for a 1000$ more " . So effective imo. I would personally invest in lenses more than having 120fps or 4k uncropped etc ... being more photo than videos anyway . Again great comparison
also the 1080 120p over sample on the A7IV for me looks great if I really need 120 uncropped which I rarely do. and I did the same spent the money of lenses instead.
THE VIDEO WE'VE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR
u da goat
My main problem with the a7iv is the lack of IR remote support, as I use that to sync the timecode on my other sony cameras when going 3-4-5 camera setup. Shame.
;o gotta love how sony cripples some of their cameras
Can you please talk about, or anyone for that matter to encourage Sony to put integral raw like R5 and R5c, or come out with a firmware update for Integral law light for A7sIII. this one thing will put Sony ahead, its surprising that FX6 and FX9 don't have internal raw.
sony is milking its customers LOL
Whilst I think the 1000$ for the A7siii is worth it for video/cinematography focused users. The 33mp and A1 processor make a big difference in photography. As a hybrid shooter and someone who does both jobs at weddings A74 sits best with me. Plus leaves 1000 towards a new lens
the a7s iii takes amazing photos. The original 5d was 12 mp and was totally fine
not in a financial position to purchase just yet but ive had my eye on the A7sIII but with this review the A7IV is now making me wonder how important the HFR is.....hmmm options. thank you for this video, you've got a new subscriber :) thank you
Caleb! Those sensors are now in a7cII and zve1, I’d like the best quality image for my travel and sports videos. Which sensor/image do you like better out of these? Can’t leave Sony due to AF needs. Thanks 🙏 💕
Caleb's LUT pack for the FX3/A7siii is one of the most slept on imo. It gives you such an amazing starting point with accurate skin tones to develop a creative look for your footage, AND it costs 10x less than many of its competitors on the market.
Thank you so much for the plug! After getting hundreds of messages about the price being to low I finally listened and increased the price. Never thought I would get that kind of feedback ha!
Rushed to buy it lol!
Does it work for the FX6 too?
Your comparsion is excellent! Thanks a lot for all these Details!
I would definitely say, save that $1000 and put it towards a nice G master lens cause the A7IV is just fine!
The rolling shutter really isn’t a big deal on the 7iv. I can’t really see it being an issue except for in specific use cases. Which in those cases, like filming races or birds flying or something like that, just switch over to aps-c mode and get the improvement. It’s still being downsampled from 4.6k to 4k so it’s gonna look fantastic no matter how you shoot with it.
I have been watching you for years how I did miss we live in the same state lol.
2 things A7S3 has clear image zoom in 4k. I use Sigma 16mm f1.4 APSC lens with 1.2crop no issues. Also with color accuracy your the first person I've seen say A7IV is more accurate? When other channels that have done this test with skin tones show opposite. A7IV picture was always Darker and colors shift towards a purple when pushed or pulled while A7S3 held color accuracy better even with alot of noise. But this can all be fixed in Post of course the 10bit offers enough play. I say best bang for buck is A7IV, people that get A7S3 already know they need that high ISO when your traveling documenting film and get your lights jacked by the locals, you make sure your camera has enough ISO to naturally light the scene or use a lamp or street light etc. Cause your not about to start carrying lights everywhere with people that can barely afford the keep the lights on in the house. Shits rough out here. Lol. Buy within your needs and Budget both camera are amazing for what they offer. I have an A7S3 and I'm not selling it for A7IV. If you do or plan to do TH-cam, media influencer, commercial work where you get to set up rigs and lights go A7IV. And your documentary style no set ups except natural and pocket lights I think A7S3 if for you. Just my Opinion, not a fact. At the end do whatever you wanna do.
Great points! We found the same. In the field with a lot of movement or at night.. the A7S III has no real competition. A bargain.
Oh hell yeah 🙏🏻 Time for me to feel really good or really bad about my recent purchase 🤣🤣🤣
Seriously Caleb, you honestly have been such an amazing resource to me over the years. Yet another fantastic review/comparison.
3 hours of researching & looking at these cameras I can't even afford 😆😆 Awesome video!!!
Wow, this is the best comparison! Thank you!
The video I NEEDED. Thank you! Currently have two Siii’s and wondering if I should sell one for an AIV to be more well rounded
Glad I could be of service! Both great cameras just with different strengths!
If your seriously selling I’m looking for that camera!
I just got both last month! I find that having one of each makes everything flexible, and since I use primes I basically get a different focal length at 4k60 on the A7IV.
I have a feeling the A7siii would get a firmware update with focus mapping, breathing comp, etc.
@@ivanyamson that's great to hear, thanks! would love the breathing comp and for the shutter to close when powered down to arrive to the Siii haha
@@impact_image still trying to decide😂
Around 7:28 or so there’s a bit of a flash frame that looks awkward. Think its from a menu changing but really took me out of this video, man.
Nice Caleb, as a new a7iv owner I appreciate this video and look forward to your finished course.
Great comparison! I went with the A7IV for its hybrid capabilities and have been super happy with it so far. Incredible camera for the price.
same as I wanted it for the photos as much as the video. easy decision for me.
Which lens did you buy with it?
@@jessetek for me I went for the 24-105.
Do you feel any overheating issue ? I'm planning to buy A7IV but i found lots of prblms videos on it
@@teamakindore9987 zero issues for me. never once seen a single warning come up and I record 4k 10bit video all the time.
Is it cropping an 8k sensor so still 4k? On a7r4
You just saved me one of the biggest frustrations with the A7iv, I got so use to the IR Remote control function on the A7S3. Glad to know at least Bluetooth is an option on the A7iv
Where can you find the bluetooth remote? I checked amazon but can't find it.
I have both and both are incredible cameras. Great comparison Caleb!
the idea of the video is great and so are all the covered content but why not also compare the crop mode of A7 IV ? :((
I'm thinking about getting your A7 IV guide. I see it's for videos - does it also include a good amount of info for photos (and tips for lenses - video and photo or for both?)
Great video! You should make a Sony a7 IV VS. Lumix s5 video comparison
I don't care what anyone says, the A7IV is by far the better buy of the two.
Just the video I needed, awesome stuff Caleb!
Why the A7IV with 33mp sensor would overheats in 4k60 Full Frame and the A1 with 50mp sensor does not overheat in 4k60 Full Frame if both have same processor?
You might have mentioned it, but another thing I noticed is the A7IV doesn't have NFC.
Really hoping for a price cut on the A7S III would be really nice to have a slowmo 4k option. My A7S II just won't cut it for that. Goddamn though, 7k is super nice for the a7 IV
I record a lot at night so a7siii for me, higher ISO, rolling shutter... the 7K is not really a big deal since the naked eye or monitors display just as good in 4K, plus it costs $1K more for a reason. Go hard or dont buy at all is my motto
Focus peaking in auto mode is kinda what I really wanted with the a7s3, cool feature, I hope a future firmwire will have some of these settings for the s3... especially breathing comp
They just put out a fx6 update that has this so I'm hopeful for a fx3/SIII firmware update as well.
@@jordanlaine7412 Ohhh, that would be great!! (about time xD)
The A7SIII is actually using a 48MP sensor. In order to get a 12mp final image, it digitally combines 4 adjacent pixels into 1. This explains why its noise performance is actually worse than the IV (split between the downsampling, the fact that the SIII's "yuuuge" photosites that everyone likes to talk about are actually much smaller than the IV's, and that pixel compositing is inherently noisy business), and why the A1 was "magically" able to do everything the SIII can do without really making any sacrifices; they're essentially using the same sensor.
The A7SIII is a BEAST in low light. Forget anything else. I have an A1 yet I purchased the A7SIII - a two year old model - because it kills in low light. It beats the A1.
*IN TERMS OF Just Video as that's all I focus on is there THAT much of a difference between them? *
I’ve been waiting a month for my preorder of the a7 iv. had to rent a7 siii for a shoot
That’s not really a valid comparison. One is a video camera, one is a hybrid. Totally different prices. Totally different purposes. Literally apples to bananas comparison.
They're both hybrids. Period.
When will you release the LuT pack for the A7 III ?
Thank you! I needed this
Why don’t all camera makers prevent overheating by making the tripod hotshot thread part of a heat pipe exchange to allow extreme heat users to screw in a heat exchange before the tripod? This way, you wouldn’t have to risk water damage from fan air access, and not make much change inside the camera too.
thx for making this video
7k downsapled... no one asked for that. Rather 1000 times have full frame 4k 60 fps
Great video, thanks. Are you planning a video guide for the A7IV?
6:17 The A7 IV does streaming in 15fps? But why though? Who streams 15fps in 2022?
I have to admit that I shoot more at 12800 than 640. It's not crazy bright as people say, like near golden hour 12800 is barely enough to have a decent exposure in Slog
That's something a lot of people forget or don't know, Slog-2 and 3 look best when overexposed almost two stops.
12800 is still better on A7IV..A7S just apply heavy noise reduction..
@@JanSur 12800 is a base iso on A7SIII, clean as a biscuit
@@alpenfoxvideo7255 clean but without details..
@@JanSur probably you haven’t used the camera alongside the A7IV, the color is much weaker there, and even temporal NR destroys the detail making everything mushy
I've got both and the a7IV rolling shutter is unusable with a fish eye and any movement, unfortunately super 35 cropping into that lens defeats the purpose of it.
Just needs a Canon 8-15mm to compensate!
@@aldolega 😂 I have used that lens on a 5dmii and it’s great! Atm my Samyang 12mm f/2.8 is not a variable zoom; maybe if the a7RV does 10bit 4:2:2 60 un-cropped with a fast sensor read out I’ll trade my a7RIV in plus some cash for that.
I tried the Samyang 12mm on my A7III and wasn't too impressed. Ended up doing a Tokina 10-17 and using 1080p60 in FF. Looked good other than the terrible Sony 1080p quality.
I doubt the rIV will have a fast readout with a clean picture. Just too many pixels to scale quickly. Maybe at low ISO's but I bet it'll be ugly in low-light. I wish Sony had kept the A7IV at 24MP so it could do FF 4K60 with decent rolling shutter.
@@aldolega I really like the Samyang 12mm on the a7SIII and I've been digging it for photos and hand held vlogging type shots, I use the 2.8 on it more then I thought I would. I'm going to be shooting some video of professional skateboarders this summer with that lens, I'm glad the a7SIII works well with it on it!
I had that Tokina for my d7000 a decade ago, it's a solid lens!
hola te felicito por tus fotos tan maravillosas.yo tengo la sony a7r4 y el objetivo sony 200-600 y nunca me salen las fotos perfectamente nitidas.la configuro de 1200 a 2000 de velocidad con enfoque de seguimiento automatico rafaga alta f10 pues f5,6 a 600mm nunca sale nitida ninguna imagen.asi que no se que puede fallar en mi enfoque pues el objetivo y la camara desde que los compre no enfocan al vuelo bien nada nunca
What features from the A7IV will we see in a firmware update for the A7Siii?
People talk about the 2 SD card slots.. How often does an SD card fail? I'm used to working on iPhone want wanting to upgrade. Is a Sandisk memory card less reliable than onboard iPhone storage??
I Love my A7 iv
I personally see the Sony A74 as a Super 35mm cinematic camera with full frame photography capabilities
Caleb, Do you think that the new features of the A74 will come to the A7s3 in a firmware update?
Another great review! I can attest as well to your extremely informative and thorough camera tutorials. I purchased your Sony A7III tutorial and you got me up and running with a full understanding of Sony's menu system. I came over from Canon, so very helpful!
Great video - Didn't know you were from Chicago either!
Great comparison! I have both also, and noticed battery life is better on the A7SIII. Another odd change was when customizing buttons, the A7 IV doesn't have the an option to choose memory recall so it's not as easy get to the extra 4 custom memory modes. I hope they add that back in a future update.
Which do you suggest image wise for video if you only use natural light
wow a7sIII has a lot more noise in the shadow from 2000-8000 than a74. Then clean up at 12800.
Seems like the a7s3 was bitter sweet for all that was waiting 2 better cameras came out right after it.
Great comparison. My suggestion for one of next videos - please compare flexibility of ProRes RAW vs best what offer Sony A7IV.
we should be able to shoot some form of ProResRaw in any camera over $2000. So tired of not being able to shoot RAW video....
A74 doesn't shoot Raw videos?
Brilliant thank you very much!
Can the Sony a75 film 4:3 4k for long periods of time...
I currently have the GH5, might upgrade to the sony next year...
gh5 good although would prefair 4:3 on 4k 30/25fp3 for ticktok 9:16 & youtube 16:9,
Awesome video :)
This is the best comparison video I've ever watched!
Would it be possible to unlock the 7k functionality? Why not? What would happen if it was somehow unlocked? Overheating? Or would it just not even be possible
Switching from Panasonic to Sony. Needing two cameras. Would you agree in buying both cameras instead of two a7s iii or two a7 IV. The idea is to have one camera for also shooting photos. For video interviews my understanding is that both camera will match well in a two camera shoot.
I'm a fist comment Super video Brother ❤️ Good luck 🤞
Thank you!
Great video! Just got my A7IV last week. Good choice, I think. :) Looking forward to seeing about your A7IV guide!!
That focus peaking always on drives me crazy!!! Sony please give us the options for when we use focus peaking (AF or MF). Thanks for this video brother
*Can you do a video showing the options for using the A7IV as a 1080:60p webcam?* Which USB-c cables would you recommend for people whose laptop ONLY has USB-c/Thunderbolt [e.g. 2017 MacBook pro]. Do you need any sort of capture device? Or can a USB-c to USB-c cable be used to achieve full 1080p60? Cheers.
A7iv also has much better dynamic range and cleaner low light below 6400 than a7siii on top of big boost in detail.
Great video, as always! 🙏 Would love to see a A7SIII vs FX3 video.
Gerald undone has one explaining how the fx3 is basically a riggable siii check it out
Excellent Caleb! Best A7IV vs A7S3 video on TH-cam letting us know everything we need to know to make a purchase decision. Your video helped me to decide going with the A7IV. Thank you my friend!!!
I went with two A7IV bodies and three A7C for weddings. The A7IVs get split with one for gimbal video and the other for raw stills. The three A7C are for video angles. All are amazing performance.
I just bought the a74 and love it but I absolutely hate that you cant use the EVF if you have the screen tilted….
Do you think the a6300 is still a good beginner camera for getting into video shoots?
You’re from IL?! I am too! I moved to AR, but i still visit family in IL. I’m from Canton, IL.
Probably one of the best comparison videos I've ever seen.
Going mirrorless from a Nikon DSLR no-investment setup. Going to start video-ing (no experience at all). Found your Oct 2019 desktop DIY setup-THANK YOU! Have decided to purchase the A7 IV (yeah, again, no Sony experience) but experts seem to like it as a hybrid and mid-cost camera. I think you like it too from what I think I heard in the last 10 seconds. I think I'll look for a 24-70mm 3rd party zoom but I noticed how the 16mm worked for you in the desktop video I referred to above, so maybe I need more input on the lens. Anyway, overall it is a struggle without video experience to figure it all out, and I just want to let you know you are appreciated for sharing what you do so well! ⭐x5
The A7iv is incredible thanks mate
Man, you just nail it! Just get better as the time goes by... I´m a great admirer of yours from Rio- Brazil!