Thanks ! This was actually just my first look. I ditched background music a while back, I did a poll and about 55% didn't want music and 45% did. Here is the full review: th-cam.com/video/rmEoZKXZ9Wc/w-d-xo.html
I love your reviews. 1.can you check quality of there liquid metal application and what measures they have done to prevent a short or spill. 2. any idea why there isn't a single review of the new Alienware M15 R2 ? nothing on youtube.
Thanks, glad you like them ! I couldn't see any foam to stop leakage. I'll have to take it apart and see what they use. As for m15R2 I will ask for one from Hidevolution, it's still on Preorder.
Nice review as always! I own a 2018 model omen and I’m a fan of the white accents but not so much the exterior chassis revisions. Guess it’s just something I gotta get used to lol.
Luis Rendón It’s a good option in my book, there’s a wide variety of cpu/gpu options but the one I own has the i7 8750h and the gtx 1060. I video edit quite a lot on this laptop and it does it easily, no lag. I do game on this laptop but also not super heavily, the performance is great for that as well. I’ve owned it for 7 months and no problems to speak of. It’s been a great laptop for me and my needs definitely a laptop I would recommend.
Just subscribed 2-3 days ago and i am pretty much impressed with your review and so detail comparison specially in thermal stuffs. Glad i subscribed this channel :)
Good review. I'm more and more impressed by HP's lineup. They have great price/performance ratio. I wish all these guys just had an option to include a 90Whr battery or something. Can't have everything I suppose. Oh well. Also, why doesn't the cores hit max load frequencies during a load test. That's a big red flag for me.
I have the 2018 15 inch version which came with a 72Wh battery (I think there's an 2019 RTX/GTX16x0 version as well). The laptop is thicker and heavier than the model you see here. I feel like HP missed the mark here, unlike the 15 x 2s, which has almost the same chassis, they kept the hard drive like the previous generation, at this point I would rather have a second m2 and/or a bigger battery. (Holding the x 2s it is much lighter but again the dual screen isn't for me and I was hoping to get the same internal with a conventianal keyboard trackpad layout and possibly better cooling)
Thank you. Of course, as of 2021, the updated HP command center software allows one to create patterns of flashing, wavy or other rgb styles on their keyboards, so that is very much appreciated.
i just and bought the 1660t with the the i79750 and it has the red logo. Was concerned if this was a 2019 model and called HP and they said it was a 2019 model.Did they (walmart) give me an older model? So I'm wondering if the higher price models came with the toned down look so to speak. HP checked my serial number and said that it was new.I have the omen 15 DC 1058 model. Thanx in advance.
This is super late but the channel "Tech finds" just released a video that sheds some light into your issue. Apparently what HP did back in 2019 was update the 2018 model (red accents) with the turing cards (rtx & 1660 line) while simultaneously releasing the 2019 model (grey accents). The updated 2018 model is the same as the base 2018 model, except that it has newer gpu cards. It seems you got the updated 2018 model
200 watts for an i9 and a rtx 2080 Max q? I would have expected a 230 watt charger. Considering don't many i7 8750h/9750h with 2070/2080 max q come with 230 watts?
I agree. My OLED Aero 15 with i7 and 2070MQ pulled 199w. I bet that is why they made my 9980h run at 45w rather than 80w like it did when I first got it...
@@OWNORDISOWN OWNorDisown yeah seems too little. Dell seems to have a habit of doing this with their laptops as well. Any chance they can send you a bigger charger? I'd be curious what you're clock speeds/power limit throttling would be like if it was 230 watts or higher. Same Aida 64 test with the 8750h I get power limit throttled to 3.5-3.6 GHz but this omen i9 is under 3 GHz which seems way too low unless HP are doing this on purpose via bios/software?
@@jonathanr4160 yes, they did this with the update to their command center. Before the update I was at 70 watts and 3.9 Ghz on all cores. I will try and get a remedy for the review 👍
First, thanks for great overview! Love the work you do here. I just have one question, the gap between the body and bottom cover (left side at 4:55) is it always there or you were filming with the screws undone?
I've had a 2019 Omen for a week now. and I'm very happy. I have the 17 inch 1080p 144hz IPS panel with the RTX 2070 (not maxq) and I7-9750h 6-core processor. No thermal problems in games that used to choke the older 6700hq/gtx950m 15in laptop I replaced. Benchmarks for the rtx2070 are almost identical to the 2080maxq
hello ownordisown, nice review here. i wonder is that really thunderbolt 3 port there? or usb 3.1 type c? cause there is a symbol there but nothing on the hp web that said that. thanks
I heard there were thermal issues with this laptop (even 2019) where the laptop reaches over 97 degrees. Any feedback? My budget for a laptop is around $2600 CDN. I'm debating on getting an Alienware or Razer.
If you have $2600, I’d strongly suggest getting another laptop. Razer and Alienware both have really good build quality, but the Alienwares can get up to crazy high specs
Samir Nazim Razer and Alienware in comparison to HP? Yeah, better thermals. I don’t own an alienware or a razer to know specifics but either is better than any HP gaming laptop
@@OWNORDISOWN that's a good idea. Would you have any recommendations for a gaming laptop with a decent battery? I'm looking at a Zephryus G with around 8hrs of battery
@@Nova3482 I actually reviewed the Zephyrus G and liked it. Great battery life. The 3750h isnt the fastest kid on the block and as you lower quality settings you don't gain much extra FPS. This lead me to think that as games get more advanced it won't keep up. I also reviewed the TUF505DU , same CPU but the 1660Ti and it got exactly the same frame rates as the 1660Ti max Q in the Zephyrus g, so yeah, that CPU is a bottleneck. That being said there are not many with super duper battery life. If you are good with around 5 hours the Helios 300 is a decent choice.
@@OWNORDISOWN perfectly legitimate reason. It's a shame Dell won't give you one to review, as your reviews are vastly more comprehensive than any of the standard review channels.
Fabulous review Stephen! I'm actually falling behind due to other issues at the moment. But you still provide the best reviews in my humble opinion. Keep up the awesome job! This laptop is sweet but I think it's missing a couple minor things that should be automatically there for this particular price point. But that's just my opinion. Thanks Again!!!
I somehow cant find the thunderbolt 3 port on the main website specs or images and i confirmed that it does not have a thunderbolt 3 port on this one. did you receive a review sample unit since yours clearly has a thunderbolt 3 port?
i checked with the live chat and the images, for some reason there isnt a thunderbolt 3. you might have gotten some limited unit or a review unit. if you can please confirm. thanks
Thanks for the review! Its not much lighter than the 2018 model then. hp advertises this model as the thin and light one. But one thing is for sure, hp's specs are full of inaccuracies like g-sync in this case.
Oh yeah, the lady I chatted with in their sales had no clue whatsoever. I was on with her for like 20 min5, she kept going away to check and said the only Gysnc one was last years 17" model for $800. I said, so my $2300 one doesnt and an older $800 one does and she said" yep". Lol.
is undervolting a must have with the modern i7 notebook chips? Im fine with it since i always fine tuned my systems, and with the program ThrottleStop i dont risk any problems. i get the 17" with same CPU but RTX 2080, wondering how loud 200W+ will be
Thank you for your reviews on this laptop. You helped me buy this one. I got the exact same one you got since it has best value. Can you please share which software you have used to undervolt?
Thanks ! I agree, that model is good value. I got a $200 rebate back too :) I use Throttlestop - I do recommend setting Speedshift EPP to 1, disable BDProchot, undervolt to say -138mv, increase turbo boost time limit to 96 or more. With that I am able to render my videos with all 8 cores steady at 4 Ghz
They are already at 70w and 90w...their update seems to overwrite this. I even tried XTU. I'll probably see if I can roll back the update or do a reinstall after the review...
Hi. I found this video very useful ! I have a few questions. is the ram upgradable? I talked to a sale representatives on HP and two of them said the ram is soldiered onto the mother board so it cannot so I am confused. Second, do you have to order 1ssd+harddrive to have 2 slots? as in if I order this model with 1 ssd card, the laptop doesn't come with the harddrive slot (That's what they say too..)? Thank you
Thanks! My review should be able to help you out: th-cam.com/video/rmEoZKXZ9Wc/w-d-xo.html The RAM is not soldered, you can upgrade it easily. I put a 2TB 2.5" hard drive into the open bay - again very easy to do
I also have the 2018. The Omen Command centre is not like this. Already updated. Maybe we can try installing it from the Support page of the new Omens.
great review! i just wish it wasnt an i9 so its more comparable to what im looking for haha; currently considering buying the 17'' version (i7 9750h, rtx 2070) at 1600e but considering that the 15'' version is just 100e more expensive, im wondering if i should maybe go for that instead in order to keep the portability, about 0.5 kg difference.. then again, that would also mean sacrificing thermals probably, the brick is also 30w smaller.. any thoughts?
Mine runs very cool. They updated the command center which limits the CPU to 45w in non gaming, 35w gaming with performance mode and 30w gaming in default mode. Even auto fan keeps it cool. I did a live stream on Twitch last night showing it all. The original footage will remain on there and I will edit it down for YT today. Some people still report high temps as theirs still pull about 70w -that is hard to cool.
@@OWNORDISOWN thanks for such a prompt reply, appreciate it! hmm, interesting how thats inconsistent across different models considering its software-controlled; maybe they did not download the command center update yet? but alright, understood; if your i9 runs cool in a 15'' chasee, hopefully it should do the same (or better) for an i7.. (fingers crossed) looking forward to the new video, thanks a bunch!
I've owned this same model for about 2 weeks now (the new design, 15", i9, 2080 MQ, but 32GB RAM instead of 16), so far I'm quite happy with it. Everything in this first look matches up with my experience. I got an almost identical Timespy score after undervolting by 150mV in ThrottleStop - but only when I set it to performance mode with the fan speed set to max. Setting the fan speed to auto drops my Timespy score down from around 7,800 to 7,400 and it clearly thermal throttles in the last few seconds of the CPU test in the latter case, so I think it's a little unfortunate the auto fan mode doesn't seem to ramp up the fan speed aggressively enough. Auto doesn't seem to ever max out the fan speed, even when the CPU hits 90°C...? However, the GPU barely ever even reaches 60°C. Imo they could have pushed the GPU a little harder, and eased off the CPU some. Seems the GPU has the thermal headroom for the 90W version and higher clock speeds, which they probably could have done if the power supply had been a 230W version like last year's 8750H models had. If I'm not mistaken though, I think the "dynamic power" aspect of the performance mode does let the GPU crank up the wattage closer to 90W at times when needed, just not all the time...? Regardless, I'm still quite happy with it considering it's at least $1k cheaper than similar builds from Alienware and probably has the best price to performance ratio of any 2080MQ laptops out there really. The build quality is the best yet from HP/Omen, on par with Alienware now imo, it's very thin (20mm) and light (under 5lbs). Ultimately, at this price point, I would recommend it. Oh and yes it has G-sync, despite no mention of it anywhere in the marketing or product description as far as I can tell. Also, on the HP site, when customizing the 17 inch version, the GPU selection shows only Max-Q 2070s and 2080s as available options, but I believe this is an error, and that they are in fact all using the full "Max-P" version as advertised elsewhere for the 17" version. Dunno why HP seems to keep shooting themselves in the foot by leaving out important selling points like this. Their website and marketing team just don't seem to be on the same page as the engineering team.
Thanks for the info. Yes, their sales and marketing teams aren't totally with it. Creates alot of confusion. The GPU actually goes up to 102w so it does a good job and although I would like to have the option of having the CPU use 70w the update makes it run cool and you dont lose any framerates as a result. It still runs at 4000 ghz on all 8 cores when rendering my videos. I wish it had a mux switch so I could get better battery life, that is my only negative.
@@OWNORDISOWN For me the CPU doesn't run cool at all though, and I'm pretty sure I have the update (I have the fan speed controls at least). Even with the undervolt and fan speed maxed, I get well into the 90s during the CPU tests in Timespy and Firestrike. Yet somehow I still seemed to get the same Timespy score you did. Did you run Timespy with the fans on full in that second test? In auto, I hit 99° and thermal throttle half way through the CPU test, even with the undervolt.
@@Zandercode Yes, I had max fan going. Without an undervolt playing games like BFV and Far Cry 5, two of the hottest running games out there, it averages in the 70s , with the odd spike to about 98. With the undervolt it never spikes above 90. What power is your CPU pulling ?
@@OWNORDISOWN I'll have to check later today. I haven't checked the thermals while in actual gameplay yet, just in benchmarks, and to be fair, it only hits the 90s in the CPU tests (in the graphics tests, it barely hits 70), but I was just a little surprised it seemed yours maxed out at 80 on Timespy - even in the CPU test?
@@Zandercode before the update it would average 93 deg C in my 20 minute handbrake encode. That stresses the CPU very hard. I'll have to measure the temperature after the update. The time for the encode increased by about 20% so I expect it to be cooler. I know during my video render the CPU was pulling 37w , holding 4000 Mhz and was in the 60s.
During browsing the HP website, I found there are two models for HP Omen 15t Named - New Omen 15t and Omen 15t. Could you please compare those two with same specifications and suggest which would be better?
The new 15t is the one I reviewed, its thinner, less gamery looking and has the new Omen control center that better controls CPU power to keep thermals in check. I prefer it
@@OWNORDISOWN Thanks for your review. I went ahead and purchased the older model because of the price difference between the two. New 15t is approximately $250 more, with the same specs.
The OMEN 15 does not have liquid metal, sorry. Hey, did you run your perf tests in performance mode? CPU will run hotter but you'll see more power going to the CPU when you're running a CPU stress test or a game that is heavy on CPU.
I thought the thermals were OK with the auto fan before the update..it that point t was pulling more watts- it did need n undervolt though. Now they have capped it at 45w thermals are very good.
I did benchmarks before the update and they matched my Triton 500. Played some Far Cry 5 and it seems OK, CPU was holding 3.9 to 4.1 Ghz and temps were good. I'll have to redo the benchmarks I did and see.
Im torn between this laptop with same specs except with the i7 or the Razer Blade 15 Advanced. They seem to have similar specs but what im concerned most about is the thermals. Razer blade doesnt seem to have many vents and an aluminum chasis. Which laptop wold you recommend in terms of thermals and overall?
Without doubt the Omen 15t. I encourage you to watch both my live gameplay video or even just my review. HP do a good job of limiting the watts to the CPU so it doesnt get hot th-cam.com/video/rmEoZKXZ9Wc/w-d-xo.html
I think you can avoid the 45W power limit by changing the "Turbo Boost long max" option in the TPL section of Throttle stop. I used the same option increase the power limit on my scar 2 to 58W.
Thanks! I've checked this panel before I'm sure I have, it was pretty good and it looks nice. I can even see stuff OK at zero brightness . I'll measure it all and have the info in the review. The 4k panel is probably the most colour accurate and I heard that these new 240hz ones are pretty bright although I haven't tried one yet.
Can helios 300 be used for softwares like solidworks, catia or ansys? I do gaming also that is why I am considering this laptop over quadro graphics card latops. Please give a suggestion.
So i bought this model with exact same specs. It doesn’t come undervolted like the razer. From your experience with it, what is a good undervolting number for this laptop. Thanks in advance!
Good content. I’m in the market for a new laptop. I program. Do some graphical work and game. I’m stuck between this at 4K and the aero 15 pled. Love the Oled but the aero cost more. How is the 4k on this. Which would you recommend.
Thanks, glad you like it👍 I havent tried the 4k on this 15t but I have no reason to believe it will be poor. I tried the OLED 1080p panel on the Aero and I must admit it is gorgeous. I has an OLED on my AW13 R3 and that top was great. Both very bright, and colours were very vivid and if course great blacks. Given the choice between screens for non serious gaming I would chose OLED.
OWNorDisown thanks for the quick reply I was leaning towards what you said as well. I just saw I could get the 2080 omen for the same price as the aero. It really had me thinking. Screens side would you still say the aero 2070 or the omen 2080 counting all variables with the best of your knowledge. I appreciate your help.
@@dustinstone6922 if battery life is important then the Aero is the one. Now, I do really like my Omen 15t with the i9 and 2080MQ. With my Throttlestop settings I have it rendering my videos at 4 Ghz on all 8 cores, CPU load 40%, temp 71 to 74 Deg C. It's a solid laptop and hasn't let me down and Gsync is a big plus. I heard that the 240 Hz panels have good brightness and colour gamut but you may want to ask them. The Aero needs some work too to get it performing fast, it will power throttle but an undervolt sorts it out. If you do decide to go with the Omen 15t I would be grateful if you use my affiliate link 👍
OWNorDisown will do. Appreciate the feedback. Huge considerations. Better screen and battery life or better specs lol. Decisions decisions. Do you have an amazon affiliate link? I didn’t see on for the omen and if you have one for the aero 15 2019 oled I’d be happy to use it for that to. Wife wants me to wait for Black Friday though I doubt they will be heavily discounted.
@@dustinstone6922 I waited ages for the Aero i9 to be discounted too. I was also deciding between the two and opted for the Omen mainly because it would give another laptop to review. Apart from the battery life I dont regret it at. I can squeeze out 3 hours and bought a 150w car charger when I travel. Yes, I use Amazon affiliate links. I'll add those to my Aero OLED review when I get home. Cheers !
Not a gamer, but a 3d modeler....dont use animation just interested in modeling and render times. What minimum setup would you recommend for being on a budget? And a nice balance between cpu and gpu for Blender 2.8. Thanx in advance.
They say a quad core CPU is recommended - so something like an i7 7700HQ / i5 8300h or i5 9300h . If you have the cash I would try and get a six core one - eg i7 8750h/ i7 9750h. The GPU seems less important, any laptop from the past 2 to 3 years with a dedicated GPU should be OK - I would plum for a GTX 1050ti or faster.
Nice preview! Had the same problem with the keyboard backlight so had to RMA my unit. Looks like a really simple problem. Really liking this model even though with short battery life the adaptor isnt too bulky so total weight still acceptable.
Yes, it is a design problem. Slide the battery in and it catches that plastic clasp. They had be reset the computer - even though I tried that, told them it wouldn't work so they have no clue either, lol. I have improved battery life for web surfing, close to 3 hours now. Created a customer power plan and reduced max CPU to 15%, it runs at 2.5w . If only I can reduce the GPU power below 9w. I bought a car charger, really small - sustained power of 150w , good for travelling.
@@Sirdiggar I should probably do a guide. But if you open up power settings and then on the left create a power plan. You can give it a name , on my 15t I then selected power saver. Then change advanced power settings and go through all the options you want to change.
@@OWNORDISOWN thanks for the reply. I mean I know about that part but I was more specifically wanted to cap the CPU % is that possible in the same place? I've just ordered this, it should be here Wednesday - 9750h / RTX 2070 / 16gb/ 1tb nvme SSD / 240hz gsync Very excited!
@@Sirdiggar yes, it's in the advanced power settings " max processor state" , by default it is at 100%, which you dont need really. At 15% I found performance to be fine.
Thank you for good introductions into several different laptops. Could you please make a brief list of laptops with i7-8750h and/or i7-9750h which allow TDP increase to over 45W? I have seen some MSI laptops with 53W. I'm mostly interested on HP just because those are cheapest over here. My goal is to buy the cheapest HP with 8750h or 9750h with TDP over 45W and put liquid metal in. Than you.
I will scan over my notes once I have finished up the three laptops I'm doing. Certainly this HP Omen did before the update, now it settles at 35w during gaming. You can stop the update however. From an average user perspective it works well, frame rates are generally the same although I got a big bump in BF V with an undervolt. The 2080 MQ peaks at 102w.
@@mutabezimbo1723 lol, the frame rates are still good though, even though the CPU usually hangs around 3300 to 3500 Mhz. One interesting thing was I was doing my thermal image and power pull test, had AIDA64 CPU stress test and Far Cry 5 going and it was pulling 138w from the wall. The GPU downclocked to about 800 Mhz max, i was still getting like 55fps at Ultra (a drop of about 40 fps). So they aggressively keep the power in check. Stop AIDA64 then the power pull went to 173w.
I hope you see this! But I just bought mine and noticed that they must have only put one red LED for the power button (toward the left of it) so the right side of the button is darker. Is yours like this as well?
I have GS65 stealth coming in soon. I had one last year , I liked it actually - even though it was a bit tinny. Big issue is inverted motherboard so upgrading is a hassle. Better battery life though. That is my only issue with my Omen, I wish it would last at least 5 hours.
Hi, even after undervolting with throttlestop (aproximately -150 mV was the most stable, even tough I managed to get to -175 mV and run Cinebench 20) I still reach 100° celsius most of the time. Does repasting void the warranty? the shop I bought it here in Chile told me it does, including adding more RAM (lol), but I think its bs.
I think you will find that there is anti tamper proof tape in place , like on a fan - if not then they would never know....worth a shot. How about lowering the multipliers via Throttlestop?
I don't think my fans are particularly loud or runs hot, and that is the i9. I tested the 17T with the i7 and that pushed more watts to the CPU, probably because its bigger, so it inherently ran hotter on performance mode but on default it was fine.
ty for all the work you do. I am not a fan of the angular design, still looks to gamer ish for me. Still using my msi gf63 which has an ugly red keyboard, but overall is nice and sleek on the outside. The 1050ti max q is good enough to play the games I currently play. Just wish the screen didn't suck. It's the reason I keep looking for an upgrade. Bought the Helios 300 on prime day and returned it as mine had bad coil wine and the fans where super loud. I loved the screen though. Can't wait for more info on the p63 your doing and maybe stop by Best buy to take a look at the aero OLED you reviewed.
Thanks for watching all my stuff 👍 I'm actually quite impressed with the PS63, you have to use comfort mode but it them runs cool and I was able to game at high to ultra settings OK. Battery lasted 10 hrs 10 mins. If only it was cheaper.
@@OWNORDISOWN yeah, cant wait for that video. Price is my only concern with that laptop. Like bob said in your live stream there is no such thing as a bad laptop just a bad price. The fact it does not have an oled display, no thunderbolt 3, no charging from type c it seems like it should be priced at 1200 msrp with a sale making it a great deal. But 1500 seems steep for what specs it offers. Just the form factor and the beautiful build is very tempting to buy for someone who plays mmo's and is willing to play at 720p for modern games on the laptop since the screen is only 15". I have a desktop for home use with a 2060 for those games anyway. Its the portability that is appealing especially with that small charger (would be smaller if it was type c)
It was on sales once at $1200 and I agree that is a fair price. Perhaps wait till the new ice lake CPUs are out. This model will get reduced, or the new ones will have better quicksync performance.
@@DanielOliveira-ed8sd I believe that lithium ion batteries stop charging at 100% but keeping them at 100% reduces their lifespan so some software manufacturers let you charge it up to say 80%. Good news about HP replacement batteries are readily available.
Based on screen quality, thermals and performance, would you recommend the Acer Predator Helios 17.3" 144hz I7 9750H and RTX 2070 Max-Q or this model HP Omen with same specifications ?
I can only go off the 15" helios I tried, so not sure what the 17" panel is like. The Helios has more detailed fan control, so you can set it at say 60% if you wish. The new update for the Omen definitely sorts out any thermal issues. My 8 Core runs cool when gaming as it's only pulling 35 to 45w now but is holding a good clock rate in the one game Far Cry 5 I tested. Although, as a power user I'm disappointed that I no longer have 70w to play with It is a good move for the average user. Someone in the comments said they just got the Omen 17 and liked it
@@OWNORDISOWN Thank you ! So you would reommend the Omen instead of Predator. And in terms of screen image quality, which panel was better to you ? And would you recommend picking some laptops with the full RTX 2070 inside or going with the 2070 Max-Q wont be much worse in terms of performance ? I saw some tests, it was like 10 FPS difference mostly, not more.
The screen is definitely better on my Omen, its brighter and packs more of a punch. Difference between 2070 and 80w 2070 MQ : Shadow of the Tomb : 88 fps / 2070 MQ 76 fps . Far Cry 5 : 2070 98 fps, 2070 MQ 89 fps. Big difference between the two may be Gsync vs battery life.
The 2060 Omen will be slightly faster gaming wise, but I suspect the Hero 3 CPU will boost higher. I heard it runs quite hot though. Nice RGB on the Hero 3. I like that the Omen has an SD card reader for my video work. I have had no issues with my Omen really. Main issue is that it always seems to wake from sleep, even with the lid closed sometimes
@@OWNORDISOWN ok so straight up build quality wise would u say that the omen 2s and the omen 15t is same (not cooling and not the internal design just the shell rigidity and screen hinge etc)
This question isn’t related to this video but i need help!There is a acer nitro 5 i7 9th genaration with 1660ti.I just want to know what’s better msi GF75-9sc or That Acer nitro 5 i7 with 1660ti!!Mate i really need help🥺
You should put an affiliate link to Amazon for this laptop, in the description. I'm in the market for one. Had to get a refund on the Asus Rog Strix G 531GU. Are you still going to review that one? I may just buy that one again, if I can find it for $900 again. Also, do you think the R7-3750H would bottleneck the RTX 2060?
What was wrong with your G531? Hidevolution have sent me one, it is still in the box. I want to finish the three laptops I am working on first. I put affiliate links for the 17" and x2s but the 15t -DH000 isn't listed yet :( Yeah, the 3750H bottlenecked a 1660Ti so an RTX 2060 will definitely be bottlenecked...
@@OWNORDISOWN Okay thanks for letting me know. I don't get why they mismatch CPUs and GPUs in laptops like that. Oh well. My GL531GU Asus Rog Strix I bought, had defective speakers. Whenever men with bass in their voice would talk, I would hear an electrical noise coming from the laptop. Probably the speakers. I ran a audio test on youtube, and it would make the noise at a certain frequency. I'd definitely buy it again though.
@@OWNORDISOWN I did a ton of research, and when I bought it, at it's price range, it was by far the best deal. I can't find anyone that really says anything negative about that Asus Rog Strix G. Seems all the other laptops in this price range, there's at least one deal breaker for me. Sorry for all the questions, but what do you think about icelake intel cpus coming out? It's the first big cpu revision intel has done in like 5 years. Going down to 10 nm from 14. Should be arriving in laptops soon. Think I should wait? I'm interested in your thoughts on it.
@@Buhfrog I think it is going to be great, not only will we see better quicksync, encryption performance and integrated graphics but better battery life too. I havent seen any six core ones announced yet, have you? They seems to be more for the thin and light ones but I am sure we will see something more for gaming laptops later this year or early next.
mine is a tough one, im buying a hp omen at the end of october. but im geting a 1060 gtx for 1150$ but i it worth it? I can see a rtx 2060 to be an extra 250 200$ which isnt bad.
@@OWNORDISOWNi think il have to save for 2 months longer to have a laptop of higher value in the long run(2years). thanks!! il be back with another comment then...
I can do. I would have to use footage from last year though as I don't have one on hand. I do have the new x2s one on hand , that's the one with a second screen.
What would perform better at gaming? The y540 with the i7 9750h and the rtx 2060 or the eluktronics mech 15 g2Rx with the i7 9750h and the gtx 1660ti. The eluktronics laptop comes with eluktroboost.
@@OWNORDISOWN Watching your video and Bob of all trades video on the mech, I knew eluktroboost was impressive, but I didn't expect it to be that great, it's unbelievable. Anyway, thanks for the quick response and I'm looking forward to more great videos 👍
Waiting for your gaming review ,I own the rtx 2060 model it heats Up quickly and hits 90+ I will be glad If you provide some settings to reduce the temperature while gaming
have u found a way to resolve this issue because I just bought the 2060 model recently, the temp has once hit up to 97 and I'm quite worried about damaging my intervals.
@@ABDULGAMERHD to be honest I don't know,but they say it is not good for laptop in long run.I have been using it past 18 months till now no issues with mine,I play lot of games .If you find any solution please share here.
Really like the chassis redesign. Considering you're running some hot SoCs in there, Liquid Metal or at least Kryonaut are mandatory. What's the panel ID? if does indeed have G-Sync I guess the AUO HAN 8.2, if not the ChiMei one. Only thing I hate about HP is their atrocious webstore... It's like playing the lottery, no idea which panel you get or if it has G-Sync, or if you get liquid metal or not on the i9-9980H ones, or if you're getting a Max-P RTX 2070 or a Max-Q one on the Omen 17T... they need to update that site ASAP, plus still says the new Omen 15/17t are Coming Soon, yet are on sale since June. 2019... This drives away in droves informed consumers that don't wanna deal with the uncertainties and time lost on RMAs. Good thing to know they added an option to max out the fans on the Omen Control Center! Can't you enable a mixed usage power profile for 56 watt on the CPU or 65 watt CPU only like on previous gen Omen 15s?
My panel is AUO82ED. I agree, their site is a mess. The 15x2s has a 2070 listed as non max Q but I'm sure it it. It was interesting, when I first got it there was no max fan control option and it would start at 45w and work it's way up to 80w as the load continued. In CB and handbrake I was steady at 3.9 ghz. Got 4000 points in CB R20. Seemingly someone emailed me with a fix...
@@OWNORDISOWN So it's the AUO one, great panel but notorious for inverse ghosting (coronas) overdrive artifacts. Test it with G-Sync enabled on a 60 fps locked game, then at lock it 36 FPS (minumum G-Sync range for 144hz panels). MSI and Asus use extreme or high overdrive settings and it leaves an ugly black trail at lower 60 FPS. Or run the blurbuster UFO tests. Sadly no way to tune the overdrive or disable it on laptops unlike on desktop monitors. forum.notebookreview.com/threads/the-official-msi-ge75-raider-owners-and-discussions-lounge.825828/page-106
i just bought the hp 15dh0138tx which is the rtx 2070 variant.i seem to be having an issue with the speakers.my one plus sounds a looooooot louder than them.Do you have any solution that might help me. PS i updated all drivers,uninstalled and reinstalled all audio drivers yet no improvement.
@@gokulprakash9940 that's pretty bad then. Mine sound quite good and loud. You shouldn't have to do anything, as long as the speakers are the default sound option you should be good. There are other sound apps in the windows store like Boom 3D, perhaps that might help?
this is what i call review. no annoying music needed.
Thanks ! This was actually just my first look. I ditched background music a while back, I did a poll and about 55% didn't want music and 45% did. Here is the full review: th-cam.com/video/rmEoZKXZ9Wc/w-d-xo.html
@@OWNORDISOWN is the fan option also on the 2018 version?
@@Maxoelgoat it certainly wasn't. I dont believe (based on comments I have received) that the updated command center gives access.
@@OWNORDISOWN yeah im def getting the 2019 version
Sean Locke does computer reviews?
I love your reviews.
1.can you check quality of there liquid metal application and what measures they have done to prevent a short or spill.
2. any idea why there isn't a single review of the new Alienware M15 R2 ? nothing on youtube.
Thanks, glad you like them ! I couldn't see any foam to stop leakage. I'll have to take it apart and see what they use.
As for m15R2 I will ask for one from Hidevolution, it's still on Preorder.
@@OWNORDISOWN its thermal paste on this one
all the omen 15" 1660ti has a 144hz monitor? cause here in italy hp do not tell if it has it
Nice review as always! I own a 2018 model omen and I’m a fan of the white accents but not so much the exterior chassis revisions. Guess it’s just something I gotta get used to lol.
Can you tell me more about your experience?
Im about to buy one and i need to know if is a good option.
I want to use it for 3D modeling and render.
Luis Rendón It’s a good option in my book, there’s a wide variety of cpu/gpu options but the one I own has the i7 8750h and the gtx 1060. I video edit quite a lot on this laptop and it does it easily, no lag. I do game on this laptop but also not super heavily, the performance is great for that as well. I’ve owned it for 7 months and no problems to speak of. It’s been a great laptop for me and my needs definitely a laptop I would recommend.
Just subscribed 2-3 days ago and i am pretty much impressed with your review and so detail comparison specially in thermal stuffs.
Glad i subscribed this channel :)
Thanks Luke, really appreciate the support :)
Looks like the cpu temps are better for this 2019 15t model compared to the 2018 model. This is great!
Yeah, mine are great. With an undervolt I have all 8 cores at 74 degrees at 4000 Mhz with a CPU load of about 40% . Not bad !
Good review. I'm more and more impressed by HP's lineup. They have great price/performance ratio. I wish all these guys just had an option to include a 90Whr battery or something. Can't have everything I suppose. Oh well. Also, why doesn't the cores hit max load frequencies during a load test. That's a big red flag for me.
Thanks ! Yes, I was thinking the same. I wish they had a 90wh battery instead of the 2.5" bay and had 2x m.2 slots.
I have the 2018 15 inch version which came with a 72Wh battery (I think there's an 2019 RTX/GTX16x0 version as well). The laptop is thicker and heavier than the model you see here.
I feel like HP missed the mark here, unlike the 15 x 2s, which has almost the same chassis, they kept the hard drive like the previous generation, at this point I would rather have a second m2 and/or a bigger battery. (Holding the x 2s it is much lighter but again the dual screen isn't for me and I was hoping to get the same internal with a conventianal keyboard trackpad layout and possibly better cooling)
Thank you. Of course, as of 2021, the updated HP command center software allows one to create patterns of flashing, wavy or other rgb styles on their keyboards, so that is very much appreciated.
you are welcome :)
i just and bought the 1660t with the the i79750 and it has the red logo. Was concerned if this was a 2019 model and called HP and they said it was a 2019 model.Did they (walmart) give me an older model? So I'm wondering if the higher price models came with the toned down look so to speak. HP checked my serial number and said that it was new.I have the omen 15 DC 1058 model. Thanx in advance.
This is super late but the channel "Tech finds" just released a video that sheds some light into your issue. Apparently what HP did back in 2019 was update the 2018 model (red accents) with the turing cards (rtx & 1660 line) while simultaneously releasing the 2019 model (grey accents). The updated 2018 model is the same as the base 2018 model, except that it has newer gpu cards. It seems you got the updated 2018 model
Waiting for latest hp omen 15 2020 amd and intel review with thermal testing
Yay for options!!! Thanks for the video 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Yay ! Thanks for watching :)
thanks for this good video , you are fantastic man
Thanks for watching 👍
@@OWNORDISOWN sir i want to take your opinion , buy laptop or pc for gaming and programs what is the best ?
What do you want the program to do?
@@OWNORDISOWN drawing mechanics as solidwork and cnc and so on....and playing All games ultra too
@@engosama243I think one of WS65 or WS75 workstations would suit you well. Quadro graphics
200 watts for an i9 and a rtx 2080 Max q? I would have expected a 230 watt charger. Considering don't many i7 8750h/9750h with 2070/2080 max q come with 230 watts?
I agree. My OLED Aero 15 with i7 and 2070MQ pulled 199w. I bet that is why they made my 9980h run at 45w rather than 80w like it did when I first got it...
@@OWNORDISOWN OWNorDisown yeah seems too little. Dell seems to have a habit of doing this with their laptops as well. Any chance they can send you a bigger charger? I'd be curious what you're clock speeds/power limit throttling would be like if it was 230 watts or higher.
Same Aida 64 test with the 8750h I get power limit throttled to 3.5-3.6 GHz but this omen i9 is under 3 GHz which seems way too low unless HP are doing this on purpose via bios/software?
@@jonathanr4160 yes, they did this with the update to their command center. Before the update I was at 70 watts and 3.9 Ghz on all cores. I will try and get a remedy for the review 👍
@@OWNORDISOWN is this really only a max q ?
I have the 17" and it's just does so much better than I expected
That's good to know :) Thanks!
I'm running the 1660ti graphics though.. managed to get it for only £999
Sweet deal :)
Please tell me this is good for 4k vedio editing.🤔
First, thanks for great overview! Love the work you do here. I just have one question, the gap between the body and bottom cover (left side at 4:55) is it always there or you were filming with the screws undone?
Good spot. Yes, I had the screws undone so I could film the internals. It's a nice flush finish.
@@OWNORDISOWN That's great! thanks for answering ;)
@@OWNORDISOWN why in my country the rtx 2070 is cheaper than gtx 1660ti
@@Maxoelgoat I don't know, that is strange. I wouldn't complain though 😀👍
@@OWNORDISOWN yeah 🤣
I've had a 2019 Omen for a week now. and I'm very happy. I have the 17 inch 1080p 144hz IPS panel with the RTX 2070 (not maxq) and I7-9750h 6-core processor. No thermal problems in games that used to choke the older 6700hq/gtx950m 15in laptop I replaced. Benchmarks for the rtx2070 are almost identical to the 2080maxq
That is awesome ! I wondered if it was the full 2070. Thanks for confirming !
How is the battery?
@@Nova3482 it was stated in the video...
hello ownordisown, nice review here. i wonder is that really thunderbolt 3 port there? or usb 3.1 type c? cause there is a symbol there but nothing on the hp web that said that. thanks
I will test it out for the review :)
@@OWNORDISOWN awesome
I heard there were thermal issues with this laptop (even 2019) where the laptop reaches over 97 degrees. Any feedback? My budget for a laptop is around $2600 CDN. I'm debating on getting an Alienware or Razer.
If you have $2600, I’d strongly suggest getting another laptop. Razer and Alienware both have really good build quality, but the Alienwares can get up to crazy high specs
@@madisonw4871 thermal wise though? are they any better?
Samir Nazim Razer and Alienware in comparison to HP? Yeah, better thermals. I don’t own an alienware or a razer to know specifics but either is better than any HP gaming laptop
Does the i7 with the 1660 ti have a better Battery life ?
Yes but a bit less powerful
With 1660ti 6gb ddr6 I got 2 hours and a half. It sucks.
Great Review! I was just wondering how the battery of the Omen 15t is and how long it lasts with light usage
I actually mentioned that in the video...working on full review now. Dont expect any more than 2.5 hrs of battery life
@@OWNORDISOWN thanks for the reply. Slightly dissapointed by the battery since I'll be using it for college
Nova3482 yes, it is short, you can buy a portable battery pack I guess. I bought an adapter to charge it in the car
@@OWNORDISOWN that's a good idea. Would you have any recommendations for a gaming laptop with a decent battery? I'm looking at a Zephryus G with around 8hrs of battery
@@Nova3482 I actually reviewed the Zephyrus G and liked it. Great battery life. The 3750h isnt the fastest kid on the block and as you lower quality settings you don't gain much extra FPS. This lead me to think that as games get more advanced it won't keep up. I also reviewed the TUF505DU , same CPU but the 1660Ti and it got exactly the same frame rates as the 1660Ti max Q in the Zephyrus g, so yeah, that CPU is a bottleneck.
That being said there are not many with super duper battery life. If you are good with around 5 hours the Helios 300 is a decent choice.
Are you doing the 2019 dell g3 anytime soon?
I refuse to buy it as I am sick of buying Dell laptops to review. I have bought 13 . I'm waiting for them to send me one.
@@OWNORDISOWN perfectly legitimate reason. It's a shame Dell won't give you one to review, as your reviews are vastly more comprehensive than any of the standard review channels.
Thanks ! Perhaps everyone should send a message to Ray Watkins there...I'm pretty low down on their list I'm afraid.
Fabulous review Stephen! I'm actually falling behind due to other issues at the moment. But you still provide the best reviews in my humble opinion. Keep up the awesome job! This laptop is sweet but I think it's missing a couple minor things that should be automatically there for this particular price point. But that's just my opinion. Thanks Again!!!
Hey there Greg ! Good to hear from you again my friend :) I hope everything is OKay with you !
I somehow cant find the thunderbolt 3 port on the main website specs or images and i confirmed that it does not have a thunderbolt 3 port on this one. did you receive a review sample unit since yours clearly has a thunderbolt 3 port?
i checked with the live chat and the images, for some reason there isnt a thunderbolt 3. you might have gotten some limited unit or a review unit. if you can please confirm. thanks
I bought mine. It has a TB3 port.
Thanks for the review!
Its not much lighter than the 2018 model then. hp advertises this model as the thin and light one.
But one thing is for sure, hp's specs are full of inaccuracies like g-sync in this case.
Oh yeah, the lady I chatted with in their sales had no clue whatsoever. I was on with her for like 20 min5, she kept going away to check and said the only Gysnc one was last years 17" model for $800. I said, so my $2300 one doesnt and an older $800 one does and she said" yep". Lol.
@@OWNORDISOWN I'd take last year's model (17") for $800 then. I mean this one is 3 times as much in cost! I like it but I don't like the price points.
is undervolting a must have with the modern i7 notebook chips?
Im fine with it since i always fine tuned my systems, and with the program ThrottleStop i dont risk any problems.
i get the 17" with same CPU but RTX 2080, wondering how loud 200W+ will be
Decent laptop , excelent reviewer !
Thanks Michael !
Hey, great video as always. Would like to know, how do you sell off your laptops?
I have been doing it via Ebay but I'm thinking of just doing a community post and take payment via Paypal.
finally i am waiting this review every night. i am not from us but i have boss there.
what size does on your $2300 ?. 15 or 17
Its the 15" , pretty portable which is what I wanted.
Thank you for your reviews on this laptop. You helped me buy this one. I got the exact same one you got since it has best value. Can you please share which software you have used to undervolt?
Thanks ! I agree, that model is good value. I got a $200 rebate back too :) I use Throttlestop - I do recommend setting Speedshift EPP to 1, disable BDProchot, undervolt to say -138mv, increase turbo boost time limit to 96 or more. With that I am able to render my videos with all 8 cores steady at 4 Ghz
if you were to compare the omen with the legion y740, which one would you prefer
Try overwriting power limits with Throttlestop (in FIVR). Really curious to see how far the cooling can be pushed
They are already at 70w and 90w...their update seems to overwrite this. I even tried XTU. I'll probably see if I can roll back the update or do a reinstall after the review...
Hi. I found this video very useful ! I have a few questions. is the ram upgradable? I talked to a sale representatives on HP and two of them said the ram is soldiered onto the mother board so it cannot so I am confused. Second, do you have to order 1ssd+harddrive to have 2 slots? as in if I order this model with 1 ssd card, the laptop doesn't come with the harddrive slot (That's what they say too..)? Thank you
Thanks! My review should be able to help you out: th-cam.com/video/rmEoZKXZ9Wc/w-d-xo.html
The RAM is not soldered, you can upgrade it easily. I put a 2TB 2.5" hard drive into the open bay - again very easy to do
Thank you for your video!
Thanks for watching ! Nearly done all my testing :)
HI I updated my omen control center to 9.0.4.0 like yours but I dont have the fan control option
Is only for the new models? I have the 2018
I wasn't sure but from what you say it sounds as if that is the case. That is a shame!
I also have the 2018. The Omen Command centre is not like this. Already updated. Maybe we can try installing it from the Support page of the new Omens.
I read that previous hp omen don't have the fun option. Only from middle-late 2019 onwards
great review! i just wish it wasnt an i9 so its more comparable to what im looking for haha; currently considering buying the 17'' version (i7 9750h, rtx 2070) at 1600e but considering that the 15'' version is just 100e more expensive, im wondering if i should maybe go for that instead in order to keep the portability, about 0.5 kg difference..
then again, that would also mean sacrificing thermals probably, the brick is also 30w smaller.. any thoughts?
Mine runs very cool. They updated the command center which limits the CPU to 45w in non gaming, 35w gaming with performance mode and 30w gaming in default mode. Even auto fan keeps it cool. I did a live stream on Twitch last night showing it all. The original footage will remain on there and I will edit it down for YT today.
Some people still report high temps as theirs still pull about 70w -that is hard to cool.
@@OWNORDISOWN thanks for such a prompt reply, appreciate it!
hmm, interesting how thats inconsistent across different models considering its software-controlled; maybe they did not download the command center update yet?
but alright, understood; if your i9 runs cool in a 15'' chasee, hopefully it should do the same (or better) for an i7.. (fingers crossed)
looking forward to the new video, thanks a bunch!
@@ddarhe anytime mate 👍. I'll try have the review up this weekend , but the live stream will be uploaded today
hp omen or acer predator helios 300 (2019)
Battery life: Helios 300, temps: Omen 15. The helios has the turbo button that helps boost performance too. Screen is better on the Omen 15.
Amazon is selling a fully decked out omen 15 with RTX 2070 512gb NVME, 32gm ram, 144hz G-Synce for $1600. Can't beat that
I've owned this same model for about 2 weeks now (the new design, 15", i9, 2080 MQ, but 32GB RAM instead of 16), so far I'm quite happy with it. Everything in this first look matches up with my experience. I got an almost identical Timespy score after undervolting by 150mV in ThrottleStop - but only when I set it to performance mode with the fan speed set to max. Setting the fan speed to auto drops my Timespy score down from around 7,800 to 7,400 and it clearly thermal throttles in the last few seconds of the CPU test in the latter case, so I think it's a little unfortunate the auto fan mode doesn't seem to ramp up the fan speed aggressively enough. Auto doesn't seem to ever max out the fan speed, even when the CPU hits 90°C...?
However, the GPU barely ever even reaches 60°C. Imo they could have pushed the GPU a little harder, and eased off the CPU some. Seems the GPU has the thermal headroom for the 90W version and higher clock speeds, which they probably could have done if the power supply had been a 230W version like last year's 8750H models had. If I'm not mistaken though, I think the "dynamic power" aspect of the performance mode does let the GPU crank up the wattage closer to 90W at times when needed, just not all the time...?
Regardless, I'm still quite happy with it considering it's at least $1k cheaper than similar builds from Alienware and probably has the best price to performance ratio of any 2080MQ laptops out there really. The build quality is the best yet from HP/Omen, on par with Alienware now imo, it's very thin (20mm) and light (under 5lbs). Ultimately, at this price point, I would recommend it.
Oh and yes it has G-sync, despite no mention of it anywhere in the marketing or product description as far as I can tell. Also, on the HP site, when customizing the 17 inch version, the GPU selection shows only Max-Q 2070s and 2080s as available options, but I believe this is an error, and that they are in fact all using the full "Max-P" version as advertised elsewhere for the 17" version. Dunno why HP seems to keep shooting themselves in the foot by leaving out important selling points like this. Their website and marketing team just don't seem to be on the same page as the engineering team.
Thanks for the info. Yes, their sales and marketing teams aren't totally with it. Creates alot of confusion.
The GPU actually goes up to 102w so it does a good job and although I would like to have the option of having the CPU use 70w the update makes it run cool and you dont lose any framerates as a result. It still runs at 4000 ghz on all 8 cores when rendering my videos.
I wish it had a mux switch so I could get better battery life, that is my only negative.
@@OWNORDISOWN For me the CPU doesn't run cool at all though, and I'm pretty sure I have the update (I have the fan speed controls at least). Even with the undervolt and fan speed maxed, I get well into the 90s during the CPU tests in Timespy and Firestrike. Yet somehow I still seemed to get the same Timespy score you did. Did you run Timespy with the fans on full in that second test? In auto, I hit 99° and thermal throttle half way through the CPU test, even with the undervolt.
@@Zandercode Yes, I had max fan going. Without an undervolt playing games like BFV and Far Cry 5, two of the hottest running games out there, it averages in the 70s , with the odd spike to about 98. With the undervolt it never spikes above 90. What power is your CPU pulling ?
@@OWNORDISOWN I'll have to check later today. I haven't checked the thermals while in actual gameplay yet, just in benchmarks, and to be fair, it only hits the 90s in the CPU tests (in the graphics tests, it barely hits 70), but I was just a little surprised it seemed yours maxed out at 80 on Timespy - even in the CPU test?
@@Zandercode before the update it would average 93 deg C in my 20 minute handbrake encode. That stresses the CPU very hard. I'll have to measure the temperature after the update. The time for the encode increased by about 20% so I expect it to be cooler. I know during my video render the CPU was pulling 37w , holding 4000 Mhz and was in the 60s.
Even though I bought a laptop my son and I watch your videos
Thanks, that is awesome 👍😀
During browsing the HP website, I found there are two models for HP Omen 15t
Named - New Omen 15t and Omen 15t. Could you please compare those two with same specifications and suggest which would be better?
The new 15t is the one I reviewed, its thinner, less gamery looking and has the new Omen control center that better controls CPU power to keep thermals in check. I prefer it
@@OWNORDISOWN Thanks for your review. I went ahead and purchased the older model because of the price difference between the two. New 15t is approximately $250 more, with the same specs.
@@arpitjayaswal8646 that is a big difference, I agree, makes sense. Enjoy your new laptop!
The OMEN 15 does not have liquid metal, sorry. Hey, did you run your perf tests in performance mode? CPU will run hotter but you'll see more power going to the CPU when you're running a CPU stress test or a game that is heavy on CPU.
Yes I did run in performance mode. Its the new update that limits the CPU to 45w.
Thx I was waiting for this .. so what do you think they improved the thermals right? .. I am about to buy the HP Omen with 1660ti
I thought the thermals were OK with the auto fan before the update..it that point t was pulling more watts- it did need n undervolt though. Now they have capped it at 45w thermals are very good.
OWNorDisown so how does that affect performance.. decrease in fps in games ?
Also does single channel or dual channel RAM affect the cpu temps..
I did benchmarks before the update and they matched my Triton 500. Played some Far Cry 5 and it seems OK, CPU was holding 3.9 to 4.1 Ghz and temps were good. I'll have to redo the benchmarks I did and see.
OWNorDisown thx I would appreciate that .. it’s a very fine laptop I want to buy it ...but afraid of thermal throttling between games..
Thank you Sir for the video. On Friday i get my HP Omen 15 with a RTX2070. It´s good for me :)
Great! Thanks for watching my video 😀
great video always, in a few words... how would you compare the build quality to the Dell G5 5590 or G7 7590?
Thanks ! It actually reminds me of the original m15. It's all aluminum so it feels solid - apart from the flex caused by the hinge position.
Im torn between this laptop with same specs except with the i7 or the Razer Blade 15 Advanced. They seem to have similar specs but what im concerned most about is the thermals. Razer blade doesnt seem to have many vents and an aluminum chasis. Which laptop wold you recommend in terms of thermals and overall?
Without doubt the Omen 15t. I encourage you to watch both my live gameplay video or even just my review. HP do a good job of limiting the watts to the CPU so it doesnt get hot
th-cam.com/video/rmEoZKXZ9Wc/w-d-xo.html
I think you can avoid the 45W power limit by changing the "Turbo Boost long max" option in the TPL section of Throttle stop. I used the same option increase the power limit on my scar 2 to 58W.
Mines at 80w. Their update to Command Center overwrites this. The only way is to use the previous version of command center at this stage I'm afraid.
Great video! Which display is more color accurate?
Thanks! I've checked this panel before I'm sure I have, it was pretty good and it looks nice. I can even see stuff OK at zero brightness . I'll measure it all and have the info in the review. The 4k panel is probably the most colour accurate and I heard that these new 240hz ones are pretty bright although I haven't tried one yet.
How do you like this compared to the Mech 15 G2Rx?
Can helios 300 be used for softwares like solidworks, catia or ansys? I do gaming also that is why I am considering this laptop over quadro graphics card latops. Please give a suggestion.
So i bought this model with exact same specs. It doesn’t come undervolted like the razer. From your experience with it, what is a good undervolting number for this laptop. Thanks in advance!
I have mine at -131.8mv
Are the hinges going to be a problem? should I buy the other model with the hinges that have more space between them?
I use mine every day from the date of this video and have had no issues. I make sure to open it by the center of the lid though.
Good content. I’m in the market for a new laptop. I program. Do some graphical work and game. I’m stuck between this at 4K and the aero 15 pled. Love the Oled but the aero cost more. How is the 4k on this. Which would you recommend.
Thanks, glad you like it👍 I havent tried the 4k on this 15t but I have no reason to believe it will be poor. I tried the OLED 1080p panel on the Aero and I must admit it is gorgeous. I has an OLED on my AW13 R3 and that top was great. Both very bright, and colours were very vivid and if course great blacks. Given the choice between screens for non serious gaming I would chose OLED.
OWNorDisown thanks for the quick reply I was leaning towards what you said as well. I just saw I could get the 2080 omen for the same price as the aero. It really had me thinking. Screens side would you still say the aero 2070 or the omen 2080 counting all variables with the best of your knowledge. I appreciate your help.
@@dustinstone6922 if battery life is important then the Aero is the one. Now, I do really like my Omen 15t with the i9 and 2080MQ. With my Throttlestop settings I have it rendering my videos at 4 Ghz on all 8 cores, CPU load 40%, temp 71 to 74 Deg C. It's a solid laptop and hasn't let me down and Gsync is a big plus. I heard that the 240 Hz panels have good brightness and colour gamut but you may want to ask them.
The Aero needs some work too to get it performing fast, it will power throttle but an undervolt sorts it out.
If you do decide to go with the Omen 15t I would be grateful if you use my affiliate link 👍
OWNorDisown will do. Appreciate the feedback. Huge considerations. Better screen and battery life or better specs lol. Decisions decisions. Do you have an amazon affiliate link? I didn’t see on for the omen and if you have one for the aero 15 2019 oled I’d be happy to use it for that to. Wife wants me to wait for Black Friday though I doubt they will be heavily discounted.
@@dustinstone6922 I waited ages for the Aero i9 to be discounted too. I was also deciding between the two and opted for the Omen mainly because it would give another laptop to review. Apart from the battery life I dont regret it at. I can squeeze out 3 hours and bought a 150w car charger when I travel.
Yes, I use Amazon affiliate links. I'll add those to my Aero OLED review when I get home. Cheers !
Not a gamer, but a 3d modeler....dont use animation just interested in modeling and render times. What minimum setup would you recommend for being on a budget? And a nice balance between cpu and gpu for Blender 2.8. Thanx in advance.
They say a quad core CPU is recommended - so something like an i7 7700HQ / i5 8300h or i5 9300h . If you have the cash I would try and get a six core one - eg i7 8750h/ i7 9750h. The GPU seems less important, any laptop from the past 2 to 3 years with a dedicated GPU should be OK - I would plum for a GTX 1050ti or faster.
@@OWNORDISOWN Thank you sir....leaning towards the 1660ti.
Nice preview! Had the same problem with the keyboard backlight so had to RMA my unit. Looks like a really simple problem. Really liking this model even though with short battery life the adaptor isnt too bulky so total weight still acceptable.
Yes, it is a design problem. Slide the battery in and it catches that plastic clasp. They had be reset the computer - even though I tried that, told them it wouldn't work so they have no clue either, lol. I have improved battery life for web surfing, close to 3 hours now. Created a customer power plan and reduced max CPU to 15%, it runs at 2.5w . If only I can reduce the GPU power below 9w.
I bought a car charger, really small - sustained power of 150w , good for travelling.
@@OWNORDISOWN Is there a guide where I can do the same with a custom power plan? Thanks.
@@Sirdiggar I should probably do a guide.
But if you open up power settings and then on the left create a power plan.
You can give it a name , on my 15t I then selected power saver. Then change advanced power settings and go through all the options you want to change.
@@OWNORDISOWN thanks for the reply. I mean I know about that part but I was more specifically wanted to cap the CPU % is that possible in the same place?
I've just ordered this, it should be here Wednesday - 9750h / RTX 2070 / 16gb/ 1tb nvme SSD / 240hz gsync
Very excited!
@@Sirdiggar yes, it's in the advanced power settings " max processor state" , by default it is at 100%, which you dont need really. At 15% I found performance to be fine.
Thank you for good introductions into several different laptops.
Could you please make a brief list of laptops with i7-8750h and/or i7-9750h which allow TDP increase to over 45W? I have seen some MSI laptops with 53W.
I'm mostly interested on HP just because those are cheapest over here.
My goal is to buy the cheapest HP with 8750h or 9750h with TDP over 45W and put liquid metal in.
Than you.
I will scan over my notes once I have finished up the three laptops I'm doing. Certainly this HP Omen did before the update, now it settles at 35w during gaming. You can stop the update however. From an average user perspective it works well, frame rates are generally the same although I got a big bump in BF V with an undervolt. The 2080 MQ peaks at 102w.
@@OWNORDISOWN Thank you mate. I know you are busy :)
Oh 35W for 9980h.. What a pity. Maybe you just forgot to plug power cord ;)
@@mutabezimbo1723 lol, the frame rates are still good though, even though the CPU usually hangs around 3300 to 3500 Mhz.
One interesting thing was I was doing my thermal image and power pull test, had AIDA64 CPU stress test and Far Cry 5 going and it was pulling 138w from the wall. The GPU downclocked to about 800 Mhz max, i was still getting like 55fps at Ultra (a drop of about 40 fps). So they aggressively keep the power in check. Stop AIDA64 then the power pull went to 173w.
Would have been more interested in the cheaper modell but looking forward for the reviwe non the less.
The purpose of me buying it was to replace my Clevo P870TM and Triton Triton 500 so I didnt want to downgrade...
@@OWNORDISOWN ok, that makes sense.
I hope you see this! But I just bought mine and noticed that they must have only put one red LED for the power button (toward the left of it) so the right side of the button is darker. Is yours like this as well?
Hi Alex, sorry for the late reply. I seem to have loads of comments ! My power button is totally lit up..
Plz do a video about that Desktop behind you 👍
I should actually. It feels extremely neglected! I hardly ever use it even though I have the Ryzen 7 1700x and RTX 2080 in it 😥
@@OWNORDISOWN Sweet! Yes do a review! Then sell me that poor neglected PC! :)
Great review! Amazing laptop. One NVMe SSD short.
Thanks, glad you liked it !Perhaps the 17" one is better suited (need the 2070 or 2080 model to have 2 x m.2) th-cam.com/video/Ob-a_UnMnfo/w-d-xo.html
@@OWNORDISOWN Cool. Thanks!
please answer my question, what is the size of the casing bolts for this laptop?
Need advice buying a new laptop around December is this laptop or the msi stealth better?
I have GS65 stealth coming in soon. I had one last year , I liked it actually - even though it was a bit tinny. Big issue is inverted motherboard so upgrading is a hassle. Better battery life though. That is my only issue with my Omen, I wish it would last at least 5 hours.
Hi, even after undervolting with throttlestop (aproximately -150 mV was the most stable, even tough I managed to get to -175 mV and run Cinebench 20) I still reach 100° celsius most of the time. Does repasting void the warranty? the shop I bought it here in Chile told me it does, including adding more RAM (lol), but I think its bs.
I think you will find that there is anti tamper proof tape in place , like on a fan - if not then they would never know....worth a shot. How about lowering the multipliers via Throttlestop?
Good review!
Thanks Matthew ! This was first look, full review to follow :)
Is this better than the y540 in terms of thermals when both is undervolted?
Both rtx2060
Is the hp i7-9.. gtx 1660ti has the same issues of high temperature or loud fans?
I don't think my fans are particularly loud or runs hot, and that is the i9. I tested the 17T with the i7 and that pushed more watts to the CPU, probably because its bigger, so it inherently ran hotter on performance mode but on default it was fine.
Is the screen good for graphic or photo editing or the color is mediocre ?
The clour is pretty decent, same as most 144 hz panels - around 97% sRGB, quite bright and sharp.
Is there any difference between the 2019 omens and the other omens?
Did you ever find out if there's liquid metal? Like did you crack it open?
I haven't taken the cooling apparatus apart yet. It actually doesn't need any repasting. I don't see any foam or Kapton tape either
Are you able to disable Gsync in order for it to run on integrated graphics?
No, the panel is connected to the dGPU only. You can disable Gsync but it still runs off the dGPU
Hello, do you think this would support VR headsets like the HTC Vive or the Oculus Rift?
Yes It will. I suspect even a GTX 1650 will be OK, I will do a video test on that. I tried a 1650 max Q and that was a no go though.
please review this one against the Helios 300 2019!!!!
You have a great comparison from @Tech Finds
th-cam.com/video/wsNPZw2rsFQ/w-d-xo.html
ty for all the work you do. I am not a fan of the angular design, still looks to gamer ish for me. Still using my msi gf63 which has an ugly red keyboard, but overall is nice and sleek on the outside. The 1050ti max q is good enough to play the games I currently play. Just wish the screen didn't suck. It's the reason I keep looking for an upgrade. Bought the Helios 300 on prime day and returned it as mine had bad coil wine and the fans where super loud. I loved the screen though. Can't wait for more info on the p63 your doing and maybe stop by Best buy to take a look at the aero OLED you reviewed.
Thanks for watching all my stuff 👍 I'm actually quite impressed with the PS63, you have to use comfort mode but it them runs cool and I was able to game at high to ultra settings OK. Battery lasted 10 hrs 10 mins. If only it was cheaper.
@@OWNORDISOWN yeah, cant wait for that video. Price is my only concern with that laptop. Like bob said in your live stream there is no such thing as a bad laptop just a bad price.
The fact it does not have an oled display, no thunderbolt 3, no charging from type c it seems like it should be priced at 1200 msrp with a sale making it a great deal. But 1500 seems steep for what specs it offers.
Just the form factor and the beautiful build is very tempting to buy for someone who plays mmo's and is willing to play at 720p for modern games on the laptop since the screen is only 15". I have a desktop for home use with a 2060 for those games anyway. Its the portability that is appealing especially with that small charger (would be smaller if it was type c)
It was on sales once at $1200 and I agree that is a fair price. Perhaps wait till the new ice lake CPUs are out. This model will get reduced, or the new ones will have better quicksync performance.
The CPU in this is a 9880H, not a 9980H. There is no 9980H. You had me really confused.
Lol, yeah. They try and confuse everyone with their naming schemes. They should just have the 9980h and 9980hk.
Omen 15 series have li ion batteries right?
Does that mean that when they get to 100% the charger stops sending energy to the battery..?
There is an option in the BIOS to stop it overcharging .
@@OWNORDISOWN comes activated or we need to activate it manually?
@@DanielOliveira-ed8sd that's the default setting 👍
@@OWNORDISOWN thank u.. And that happend with all li ion laptops?
@@DanielOliveira-ed8sd I believe that lithium ion batteries stop charging at 100% but keeping them at 100% reduces their lifespan so some software manufacturers let you charge it up to say 80%. Good news about HP replacement batteries are readily available.
Based on screen quality, thermals and performance, would you recommend the Acer Predator Helios 17.3" 144hz I7 9750H and RTX 2070 Max-Q or this model HP Omen with same specifications ?
I can only go off the 15" helios I tried, so not sure what the 17" panel is like. The Helios has more detailed fan control, so you can set it at say 60% if you wish. The new update for the Omen definitely sorts out any thermal issues. My 8 Core runs cool when gaming as it's only pulling 35 to 45w now but is holding a good clock rate in the one game Far Cry 5 I tested. Although, as a power user I'm disappointed that I no longer have 70w to play with It is a good move for the average user. Someone in the comments said they just got the Omen 17 and liked it
@@OWNORDISOWN Thank you ! So you would reommend the Omen instead of Predator. And in terms of screen image quality, which panel was better to you ? And would you recommend picking some laptops with the full RTX 2070 inside or going with the 2070 Max-Q wont be much worse in terms of performance ? I saw some tests, it was like 10 FPS difference mostly, not more.
The screen is definitely better on my Omen, its brighter and packs more of a punch. Difference between 2070 and 80w 2070 MQ : Shadow of the Tomb : 88 fps / 2070 MQ 76 fps . Far Cry 5 : 2070 98 fps, 2070 MQ 89 fps. Big difference between the two may be Gsync vs battery life.
OWNorDisown Thanks ! Does the Hp Omen 2019 model have GSync ?
@@kristijanini7846 mine certainly does
Hey which one do you think is better, This omen with 2060 variant or rog hero 3 with 1660ti? Thank you
The 2060 Omen will be slightly faster gaming wise, but I suspect the Hero 3 CPU will boost higher. I heard it runs quite hot though. Nice RGB on the Hero 3. I like that the Omen has an SD card reader for my video work. I have had no issues with my Omen really. Main issue is that it always seems to wake from sleep, even with the lid closed sometimes
Hello, i baught this laptop some weeks ago, while gaming cpu temp is around 95/97 and gpu 85/88 is that normal?
If you plz
I want to know the refresh rate of hp omen 15-dc1025cl
are there any plastic bits ?? or is it complete metal build
Lid, keyboard deck, underneath are all aluminium. Bezels are plastic of course. Trackpad is plastic.
@@OWNORDISOWN ok so straight up build quality wise would u say that the omen 2s and the omen 15t is same (not cooling and not the internal design just the shell rigidity and screen hinge etc)
@@diptangshudutta3637 yes, I havent physically seen the x2s but it looks the same to me.
Can you test with battlefield 5 for thermal test?
Yep, already done. Will be live streaming it tonight on Twitch too
Thank you very much!
Thanks for watching :)
That Cinebench R20 score on the 8750H is suspicious. I get an average of 2720 on the Dell G7.
It power throttles. If I undervolted it I would get the same .
Oh. That was why my keyboard didnt lit. Thank you for your guide.
Thanks for watching, glad I was able to help !
OWNorDisown yeah. I opened up and re-connected. Fixed now. Thnx again.
Would you recommend this or the M15 Alienware?
I really like my Omen 15t. My 8 cores , with an UV, runs at 4 Ghz on all cores doing my video encoding. Max 74 Degrees C.
is the spot on the bottom left side a placeholder for a 2.5" SSD?
Yes, a 2.5" drive will fit in there. I have a 2TB hard drive in mine for my videos
@@OWNORDISOWN do i need to purchase a Sata cable to extend the storage, or is the cable alrdy in there?
Can you add more ssds to this laptop?
There is one m.2 slot and one 2.5" bay. You can have an SSD in either of them. Here is my review: th-cam.com/video/rmEoZKXZ9Wc/w-d-xo.html
This question isn’t related to this video but i need help!There is a acer nitro 5 i7 9th genaration with 1660ti.I just want to know what’s better msi GF75-9sc or That Acer nitro 5 i7 with 1660ti!!Mate i really need help🥺
Oh and what’s the input delay like when gaming? Is it fast?
Its as fast as any 144Hz IPS panel.
OWNorDisown ideal thankyou!
OWNorDisown howcome I never seem to see any TN panel gaming laptops?
Oh there are ones, the slightly older MSI ones have these, and the viewing angles and colors are horrid.
You should put an affiliate link to Amazon for this laptop, in the description. I'm in the market for one. Had to get a refund on the Asus Rog Strix G 531GU. Are you still going to review that one? I may just buy that one again, if I can find it for $900 again. Also, do you think the R7-3750H would bottleneck the RTX 2060?
What was wrong with your G531? Hidevolution have sent me one, it is still in the box. I want to finish the three laptops I am working on first. I put affiliate links for the 17" and x2s but the 15t -DH000 isn't listed yet :( Yeah, the 3750H bottlenecked a 1660Ti so an RTX 2060 will definitely be bottlenecked...
@@OWNORDISOWN Okay thanks for letting me know. I don't get why they mismatch CPUs and GPUs in laptops like that. Oh well. My GL531GU Asus Rog Strix I bought, had defective speakers. Whenever men with bass in their voice would talk, I would hear an electrical noise coming from the laptop. Probably the speakers. I ran a audio test on youtube, and it would make the noise at a certain frequency. I'd definitely buy it again though.
I had that once with an Acer Predator 17" laptop, it was like the speaker was perforated or something.
@@OWNORDISOWN I did a ton of research, and when I bought it, at it's price range, it was by far the best deal. I can't find anyone that really says anything negative about that Asus Rog Strix G. Seems all the other laptops in this price range, there's at least one deal breaker for me. Sorry for all the questions, but what do you think about icelake intel cpus coming out? It's the first big cpu revision intel has done in like 5 years. Going down to 10 nm from 14. Should be arriving in laptops soon. Think I should wait? I'm interested in your thoughts on it.
@@Buhfrog I think it is going to be great, not only will we see better quicksync, encryption performance and integrated graphics but better battery life too. I havent seen any six core ones announced yet, have you? They seems to be more for the thin and light ones but I am sure we will see something more for gaming laptops later this year or early next.
mine is a tough one, im buying a hp omen at the end of october. but im geting a 1060 gtx for 1150$ but i it worth it? I can see a rtx 2060 to be an extra 250 200$ which isnt bad.
I think the new ones are worth it. They have fan control now and are running cooler
@@OWNORDISOWNi think il have to save for 2 months longer to have a laptop of higher value in the long run(2years). thanks!! il be back with another comment then...
The video says i9 9980H, but I assume it's supposed to be i9 9880H?
Correct
how is the overall built quality?
The only flex bit is the screen because of the hinge position, Rest is all aluminum and pretty solid. Reminds me of an AW m15 to be honest.
Can You Make Hp Omen 15t Vs Hp Omen 15 2018
I can do. I would have to use footage from last year though as I don't have one on hand. I do have the new x2s one on hand , that's the one with a second screen.
I've brought HP Omen 15 dh-0136tx . The 15 series really great. Reply to this if you have any questions.
Advait R Sonpethkar does your model have g sync.?
@@himanshuthakur8503 I don't think that it has G-Sync. Atleast I didn't find out on box or feature or manual.
Does it have 1660ti full version or max q version??
Suraj Kannan full
How about the thermals?? Is it getting too hot??
What would perform better at gaming? The y540 with the i7 9750h and the rtx 2060 or the eluktronics mech 15 g2Rx with the i7 9750h and the gtx 1660ti. The eluktronics laptop comes with eluktroboost.
The Mech 15g2RX. The 1660Ti is 5% behind the 2060 but the Eluktroboost will ramp it up by 10% so figure a 5% gain on average.
@@OWNORDISOWN Watching your video and Bob of all trades video on the mech, I knew eluktroboost was impressive, but I didn't expect it to be that great, it's unbelievable. Anyway, thanks for the quick response and I'm looking forward to more great videos 👍
Thanks ! Yes, it is very impressive :) Thanks for supporting Bob and I
Waiting for your gaming review ,I own the rtx 2060 model it heats Up quickly and hits 90+ I will be glad If you provide some settings to reduce the temperature while gaming
Going to do a live stream tonight on Twitch
have u found a way to resolve this issue because I just bought the 2060 model recently, the temp has once hit up to 97 and I'm quite worried about damaging my intervals.
@@ABDULGAMERHD No it still runs hot.But there has been no performance issues till now.
Joker Bats as this is a new laptop should the cpu levels go up to 97. If so will this damage my laptop over time
@@ABDULGAMERHD to be honest I don't know,but they say it is not good for laptop in long run.I have been using it past 18 months till now no issues with mine,I play lot of games .If you find any solution please share here.
Really like the chassis redesign. Considering you're running some hot SoCs in there, Liquid Metal or at least Kryonaut are mandatory. What's the panel ID? if does indeed have G-Sync I guess the AUO HAN 8.2, if not the ChiMei one.
Only thing I hate about HP is their atrocious webstore... It's like playing the lottery, no idea which panel you get or if it has G-Sync, or if you get liquid metal or not on the i9-9980H ones, or if you're getting a Max-P RTX 2070 or a Max-Q one on the Omen 17T... they need to update that site ASAP, plus still says the new Omen 15/17t are Coming Soon, yet are on sale since June. 2019... This drives away in droves informed consumers that don't wanna deal with the uncertainties and time lost on RMAs.
Good thing to know they added an option to max out the fans on the Omen Control Center! Can't you enable a mixed usage power profile for 56 watt on the CPU or 65 watt CPU only like on previous gen Omen 15s?
My panel is AUO82ED. I agree, their site is a mess. The 15x2s has a 2070 listed as non max Q but I'm sure it it.
It was interesting, when I first got it there was no max fan control option and it would start at 45w and work it's way up to 80w as the load continued. In CB and handbrake I was steady at 3.9 ghz. Got 4000 points in CB R20.
Seemingly someone emailed me with a fix...
@@OWNORDISOWN So it's the AUO one, great panel but notorious for inverse ghosting (coronas) overdrive artifacts. Test it with G-Sync enabled on a 60 fps locked game, then at lock it 36 FPS (minumum G-Sync range for 144hz panels). MSI and Asus use extreme or high overdrive settings and it leaves an ugly black trail at lower 60 FPS. Or run the blurbuster UFO tests. Sadly no way to tune the overdrive or disable it on laptops unlike on desktop monitors. forum.notebookreview.com/threads/the-official-msi-ge75-raider-owners-and-discussions-lounge.825828/page-106
@@Frencho9 I'll check it out 👍
I just ordered and Omen 15t i7 1660 ti 16gb ram for 949. I hope I doesnt look this plain.
i just bought the hp 15dh0138tx which is the rtx 2070 variant.i seem to be having an issue with the speakers.my one plus sounds a looooooot louder than them.Do you have any solution that might help me.
PS i updated all drivers,uninstalled and reinstalled all audio drivers yet no improvement.
I'm getting about 69 db with the sensor about 45 cm away. What reading do you get?
@@OWNORDISOWN I don't have anything to measure how much db it is but I have to put my ears near the speakers to listen to the audio
@@gokulprakash9940 that's pretty bad then. Mine sound quite good and loud. You shouldn't have to do anything, as long as the speakers are the default sound option you should be good.
There are other sound apps in the windows store like Boom 3D, perhaps that might help?