Today it was announced that Germany wont build its ammunition in switzerland anymore since it is such an unreliable partner in terms of weapons. Really glad to see our politicians acting fast without spending months or years talking about possibilities!
@@claus-not-santa The Swiss Newsoutlet Tagesanzeiger printed an article today: Deutschland will keine Schweizer Munition mehr kaufen - Die Regierung in Berlin und die deutsche Rüstungsindustrie arbeiten daran, unabhängig von der Produktion in der Schweiz zu werden. Dabei geht es um viel mehr als den Gepard. Davon betroffen sei nicht nur der längst ausgemusterte Gepard. Auch die Munition des Schützenpanzers Puma, der Kampfjets Eurofighter und Tornado und des Flugabwehrsystem Mantis stamme aus Schweizer Produktion. This is about time. Things have changed. We not need this kind of partner, oportunistic little traitors, who enjoy protection in the middle of Europe while denying aid to a european country subject to a Vernichtungskrieg from the new Russian Nazi Reich. Not a single European NATO country will buy anything military related from Switzerland anymore, thats almost certain.
Yeah Germany is slow in making decisions. The Gepards took 6 months since it was promised to be delivered. So much beaurocracy there. As simple as getting married is a nightmare to go through with so much red tape you had to go through.
@@Joeladgra rules and procedures are there for a reason and usually assure things working properly, this is the base of "made in germany" and why german engineering and manufacturing has always been highest standard...but sometimes things could be little quicker I agree
As a german i can tell you that I am very proud that the Gepard is well suited to protect you. I hope you guys are doing well and the war will end soon with victory of Ukraine. May god bless you.
Ich bin auch Deutscher und hoffe, dass unser Land bis zur endgültigen Niederlage der einfallenden russischen Barbaren nicht aufhört, der Ukraine zu helfen.
As a non German I am very happy that Germany seems to be finally getting its act together, and fine weapons like this will definitely put a dent in the Russian's plans, if they even have any (sometimes I'm not convinced that they do, the current obsession with Bakmut is a little weird, maybe to gain SOMETHING, anything?). IMO there are more important things the Russians should be doing right now...including actually using some of their top weaponry for something MILITARILY useful. I just mistyped plans as planes, which made it funnier, actually. Hopefully it will do some of that, too, against manned full size stuff. I can hardly wait to see some video of that occurring. :-) Cheers from the US. I will say one other thing, at least Germany isn't afraid to put a tank in. Better than we are doing, so far, in that area, but that will soon change, as it will almost certainly have too, and not in the far future. That, or somebody needs to be producing shells for Russian/Ukrainian weaponry at a scorching rate. Pretty sure they aren't. Oh, and that KF-51 of yours, that thing is to drool over. It looks more like a spacecraft inside than a tank. When the stuff around it gets integrated (other weapons, men, etc) into its systems, it is going to be a BEAST! Not that the Leopard II is any slouch. I would guess that one is similar to the highly upgraded Abrams vehicles in capabilities. It is becoming inherently obvious to me that a SERIOUS and extended anti drone capabilities be built into all of them . That should be easy peasy, especially for the stationary quad type grenade droppers, just needs to get done.
Although I'm a former tanker, I've always admired the Gepard. I'm glad today's remote-controlled aircraft and gliding missiles fit the profile, to renew Gepard's usefulness, protecting things.
@@petunized why would they show the locations of there defence on video? Russia gets instantly shelled as soon as some little street sign gets geo-located Russia could so the same to them...
@@SuperUltimateLP Gepard is mobile. They can easily move it. Oh and they show every success they can acheive. They desperately need it. For them it's mostly propaganda war.
@@petunized that's a lot of assuming going on there... You don't know that is the reason, stop thinking you are smarter then everybody else. Gepard is still a capable system and the 35mm if used in a anti amor role would still shred cold war tanks... It's really unlikely that they have in all that time just downed one Missile... They fired 2 salvos and hit a flying Missile, I can't imagine that they perform badly! Edit: spelling
@@ironmantooltime If it is all that is available at the location/time, true that, but doing it cheaper and even more importantly with ammo that is more quickly replaced, is better, if available and effective...and I expect this German tank probably is if available within strike range. The even more important issue than bucks destroyed is life destroyed, since most of these drones are intended to hurt and kill civilians, directly or indirectly (power, water, etc). Anti missiles are better used against missiles, and the fewer that are used to take down drones, the better, so they are available for the tougher intercepts.
The difference between the German crew training and Ukraine crew training is, one is practice and the other survival. You learn fast if you want to survive.
I am totally in awe of Ukranian soldiers so far. They are so quick on the uptake of all the new weapon systems, they are clever and very resourceful - and keep their humor and humanity intact. Amazing folks! Like one of the guys says: If you dont operate the Gepard's computer properly, you have to reboot the whole system which is a f*** waste of time... 😂 That's an attitude! If push comes to shove, better have Ukraine on your team 🇺🇦💙💛🇺🇦
I think they skipped less important lessons. And skipped all the other stuff german operators having to learn. AND i don't think german soilders are trained 12 Hours a day.
I bet the 18 months are about conscripts since that is mainly what the Bundswehr had back in the day when these were front line equipment. We were not a professional army. They also thought it took 18 months to "train" us as lorry drivers. Then it got shortened more and more as the iron curtain fell and of the 12 months I actually ended up serving in '90/91, I mainly sat on my ass and was bored for half of the time. And still couldn't drive a lorry cross country to save my life, let alone shoot a gun properly because they just flat-out refused to teach us. I did learn to ride a moped cross-country though. _That_ only took two weeks since I had been doing basic moped riding for four years already.
Finally the very long Gepard story is finding its feet and purpose in Ukraine, it really is an amazing system, I cant believe how fast it can swing around that huge turrent. As a citizen of the world, I want to give my greatest gratitude to Germany and it's people for sending so many of these systems to Ukraine, please keep sending them more! As for the Swiss, I hope they can find a way to see that the right thing to do is to send the ammunition, I don't think it needs any more explaination or justification, it just needs to be done ASAP.
Rheinmetall (the company that build the Gepard and its ammo) baught a new ammo-factory in spain in November. So now they can shift the ammo production for the Gepard from swiss to spain.
I have so much respect for the Ukrainian soldiers. They have had to learn so much in such a short amount of time to hold back and push back the Russians. You all rock! Glory to Ukraine!
And they've gotten to the point where they are teaching the countries that developed some of these weapons new and better ways to use them. I have seen multiple NATO member generals, including US, say exactly that. As absurd as it sounded, dragging that missile out into the ocean to get the range they needed from what they had available worked. That's some goofy genius, right there. I helped design some weapons for a defense manufacturer, and related back that would have gotten a WTH out of me...and then something like "nice". The Ukrainians REALLY think outside the boxes. The mother of invention, and all that. You can also turn some of this knowledge around to use as a developer of said weapons to add features to support some of that usage more readily, fix deficiencies found, etc., if the design company is so inclined. And yes, I have heard they come up the learning curves very fast. There it is the fact that the Wolf is motivated, while the rabbit is committed. Luckily in Ukraine the Wolf doesn't even seem to be to motivated, for the most part, and when you look at the overwhelming advantage they have in weapons and ammo, in some cases the ONLY ones with certain weapons, like long range missiles and cruise missiles, it is a good thing. The Ukrainians are great, but the Russians making a mess of most of this is good, too. But don't let anybody tell you they are totally incompetent, the real military, anyway (conscripts with no previous experience and no training, not enough to matter anyway, probably mostly are). In some areas there are massive Ukrainian casualties, and the Ukrainian civilian casualties, when all is said and done are going to be staggering, I expect. The Ukrainians actually thanked one of the military higher ups with a letter for his contribution into level of corruption going on. I think that may have been slightly before the main invasion.
@@MrJdsenior Did you know it was the Ukrainians that invented and manufactured all Russians weaponry until 2014 when Putin stole Crimea and the Donbass. When Putin stole the Donbass, it was Ukraine's industrial complexes that built Russians military hardware. Putin ordered the Russian military to ran sack all of the Ukraine's factories of machinery then all of the machinery was sent to Russia. The problem then the Russian found was they stole the machinery to make the weapons, but the Russians lacked the brains to build the Military weapons.
K Cuzz The Russian speaking Ukrainians fighting the neo Nazi government supported by NATO are Ukrainian soldiers also. You must be the wise one in your hospital. Imbecile try Education. Odessa may 2 2014 mass murder of harmless Russian speaking Ukrainians
@@dannyormond6839 When you write lying garbage like you every one really knows that you are a subhuman savage mongrel barbarian Russian scum paid troll
I think a Norwegian ammunition manufacturer has agreed to start new production of this special type of ammunition for these anti-aircraft guns on the Gepard.
Yeah I heard this as well. Apparently they will be making the smart 35 mm shells needed for the guns. This was mentioned sometime ago now so it’s weird that it wasn’t specifically mentioned at the end of the video. That is unless there is some issue right now with the contract. Either way though, I really hope this will be happening soon. This anti-aircraft system is exactly what Ukraine needs right now, and they need as much ammunition as possible for every calibre of weapons needed. Let alone new spare parts for the vehicles that are getting worn out.
You can be certain the Swiss have the guts to handle and bank billions of rubles, euros, pounds and dollars from nations that are either at war in Ukraine or assisting in it, the same as in 2 the world wars. Still, as long as the the Swiss think that they are maintaining their pristine morality, thats the main thing.
yeah, switzerland is a country of half-baked wimps. always "neutral" while in reality they profited from Nazi Germany and to this day they profit form just about every nation's criminals and cartels with their banking laws. A country of rich hypocrites everyone dislikes and for good reasons. take a damn side, you swiss wusses!
It's a weird thought - created at a time with attack helicopters in mind, when the idea of drones was merely sience fiction. Who'd thought back in the 70s they'd work so well in 2022.
@@69quato probably the people building & using them back in the seventies thought they'd be pretty useful (yeah, there have been UAVs/drones around since then).
I think they were last upgraded in the 2000s. they were actually still very up to date when the bundeswehr got rid of them. that's why they're some of the best weapons germany has just laying around .
Tak jest, bardzo chetnie - bendze me robic - tylko moje "Francusko od Matura" nie jest super doskonale - od jakies Niemiec ktore umio Popolsku movic. I tez Dzin kuje na wasze Pomoc ( PL-Ludzie + PL-Urzad ) do UA tez >> te ponad 200 Czolgi (Tanki > T 55 + T 72 ) + Pierune-Rakiete + etc. etc. + duzo duzo inne Pomoc do UA-Ludzie.. Greetings from Germany. I jeszcze cos >> Tak, Polska ma ratzie na wiele politiczne Tematu - especialy Temat > Ukraine i Temat > Politiczne Islam.... Dzin kuje. May God The Lord bless Polska. Amen.
I read that 7 more Gepard's are coming to Ukraine and the problem of lack of ammunition is also solved. Rheinmetall has bought a Spanish ammunition company and the Norwegian company NAMMO now also produces ammunition for the Gepard. If we all work together, we can move mountains. Thanks also to our neighbors in Poland who have done so much. Greetings from Germany. Slava Ukraini.
First nice comment about germany from a polish person I have read in years. Thank you so much! plz tell your government and the people whoe vote for piss party to stop hating germany plz. We're friends now
I was a Leopard2 Driver in 1989 and I could experience the Gepard in some maneuvers I took part. I sat in the Leo2 when we shot live ammunition and it's a experience of its own. But hearing the Gepard firing his two 35mm Cannons made me Goosebumps. Holy Christ, the Sound is terryfiying. P.S. At this time there were more than 400!! Gepards in Service in the German Army and more than 2500 Leopard 2.
More successful would be sending Stallone, Schwarzenegger, Van Damme and Tom Cruise to fight in Ukraine, they are far more efficient than all that overpriced gear
It’s fulfilling the exact same mission it was originally designed for - only a further 1,000km to the east. And I‘m pleasantly surprised by how effective it still is.
Der Russe kommt aber nicht, er schickt seine Sklaven, die Raketen, die kosten weniger Moneten. Die Russen werden nie wieder kommen, was sollten sie in Deutschland wollen? Unterstellt man den Russen sie wuerden ein Aktenpflegeheim uebernehmen wollen? Und ein Drittel der Bewohner schon Araber und Adrikaner, alle vom Staat versorgt, niemals zu einer Arbeit/Taetigkeit faehig? Diese Suppe laesst man natuerlich die Deutschen selber ausloeffeln, hoffentlich koennen sie noch loeffeln ?
@@sigridqwq5198 _...Der Russe kommt aber nicht..._ Er ist längst da. Aufwachen! _...was sollten sie in Deutschland wollen? ..._ Das haben selbst Ukrainer schon über die Ukraine gesagt. Der Russe (gemeint ist das Regime in Moskau) nimmt alles was er kriegen kann, siehe Tschetschenien. Wäre die Verteidigung in den freien Ländern nicht so heruntergewirtschaftet worden, oder die Ukraine hätte ihre Atomwaffen behalten, wäre der Russe vermutlich nie gekommen. Einem Putin kann man nicht mit Toleranz kommen. Das wird als Schwäche missverstanden. Einen Gepard versteht er.
the Gepard was vital during the Charkiw offensive where it shot down helicopters and even jets as a Gepard crew stated. I wouldn't put my hand in the fire for nobody getting killed in the process.
@@webcrawler9782 Have heared this too. Even that it was used vs ground targets since its cannons deliver morefirepower then any non battle tank and its radar was usefull to coordinate the manpads. Those drones are so slow (150 km/h?) That they can be radar tracked for minutes before getting close.
@@tyrson2445 Not unrealistic, the Gepard has a special fire mode (manually aimed single shot) against ground targets and carries dedicated anti-ground-target armor piercing ammunition in separate magazines.
I had a friend who was commander on a Gepard, we called them 'Pruttel' in the Dutch army. He was a conscript in 1980, served 16 months as a sergeant. They had 2 teams on each Gepard so they could operate for 24 hours. It was a boy's dream serving on such a mighty AA tank.
It's one of the most shit anti air system there are. Not even Bundeswehr hold them in the army and they run on old crap... So even for Bundeswehr it was too crappy.
@@miriamweller812 The Bundeswehr did not hold because politicians thought the cold war is over and a system like that was no longer needed. It was modernized before and is still one of the best anti air cannon systems in the world. Only thing important now however is, that the Ukrainians like the tank.
@@miriamweller812 Your statement is completely wrong. it has been phased out from service like many systems from the 70s and 80s. It’s actually proven itself when in service and now even more so in bringing down drones
@@sigridqwq5198 I didn't get what you meant here. For us, ukraininans, it sounds like "russian terrorists will succeed in destroying power systems and winter will force us to surrender". I hope that is _not_ what you tried to say. But if you were talking about russians will freeze in trenches - you should also know, our people will also freeze in trenches without decent support. Russia is actualy more northern country than we are, although enormous corruption in their armed forces rendered them severe shortage of proper gear. In fact, we still stand thanks to russia having corruption in much biger scale, than anyone have thought, and Ukraine is actually not as corrupted as we felt it (still far from perfect though). Otherwise it would be very straightforward invasion. Thankfully, things went the way they did. But now we _need_ all the support to push them back ASAP, because every day of war means more farthers, mothers, husbands, wifes, brothers, sisters, sons and daughters who will never return to their families. We do not demand, as noone is ought to help us - but we are asking. And we are thankfull for every bit of support.
The Gepard always were my favorite tanks. They were soooo high tech and ahead of their time when they came out, and it greatly saddened me to see them mustered out. Although I wish to god they weren't needed, it is somehow deeply satisfying seeing them get to do the job they were built for after all, protecting the innocent and helpless from mindless violence. They are beautiful machines and they finally are receiving the accolades they so richly deserve.
More successful would be sending Stallone, Schwarzenegger, Van Damme and Tom Cruise to fight in Ukraine, they are far more efficient than all that overpriced gear
For many decades, Germans have proudly watched their "toys" like Gepard, Leopard, or Panzerhaubitze 2000 whenever being shown in the media, but they have never been more than that in our minds: Just expensive toys. It´s surreal to see them being placed into a real war now, it´s such a strange feeling. Playtime is over: Our toys have become lethal weapons of war now, as it seems...
Thanks for keeping this toys in good conditions for such a big amount of time, now it saves lives of so many innocent people in Ukraine. Thx for great toys from all Ukrainians 😉
@@janvandermeer6159 Yeah, I was wondering, too, and it infuriates me to see, how timid and cowardly German politics have become over the years. They will do everything to avoid sending about 150 Leopards down to Ukraine, which are definitely available. Part of the truth also is, that we got a completely incompetent defense minister woman (Albrecht), an old hag that has literally done nothing since February to improve the miserable state of being for our "Bundeswehr" (German army): Our opposition in the Bundestag recently found out, that not a single bullet, tank or aircraft has been ordered in the industry since the beginning of the year, although there is a huge budget available. She is a total embarrassment and I feel ashamed of her because she is unable to cope with the huge challenge the new situation is posing right now. A lot more time will go by until our Chancellor understands, what kind of failure this woman is. Don´t expect much more help as long as this minister is in charge of our Bundeswehr.
Every weapons developer and researcher on Earth is experiencing a golden age of data regarding the 120 years worth of weapons being used in this conflict.
It's interesting that an 'obsolete' piece of equipment like this has turned out to be so useful on a modern battlefield. It's incidental self defense capability is a big plus if itself is attacked by drones or missiles.
It was obsolete between 1990 and 2020 but it became useful again after drones begun to make their impact on battlefield. Modern airplanes and helicopters can kill Gepard from further away than it can shoot back so it´s not useful for its original purpose...
I would understand neutral Switzerland not selling ammo for offensive weapons, but the Gepard is a defensive anti-aircraft weapon. Besides, being "neutral" not selling defensive ammo to Ukraine means being not neutral by supporting Russia's invasion. There are only 2 camps here, and not selling weapons to both actually means supporting Russia in this case, making the Swiss Getards.
@Tracchofyre Right, but that's not how Ukraine is planning on using these precious few Gepards. As I understand it's meant to be used as anti-aircraft, not deployed on the front line to attack tanks, which Ukraine can destroy in many other ways.
The swiss are a major contributer to the right wing wave in Europe and the US, in Germany and Austria the right wing parties are under investigation for illegal funding by swiss donors and Russia contributed much for those parties too, we know in which boat they sit
@@kikimuff1992 Die interessieren sich mal wieder mehr für ihre Banken - in denen wohl noch etliches Russengold schlummert - und "Neutralität" als endlich mal Position zu beziehen. Unser Zögerscholz ist ja auch so ähnlich drauf…
@@rantanplan178 sagt einer der grössten waffenlieferanten. Haben sogar Nazideutschland mit Waffen versorgt. Um sich ein paar Jahre später liegengebliebene jüdische Vermögen sich unter den Nagel zu reissen. Schämt euch!
Don't believe everything you see on the news unless there is video footage to prove it. Most information coming out of Ukraine is false to keep up the morale and support from western countries.
As a Swiss I feel deeply ashamed. It's cowardice and a lack of loyalty with our European brothers and sisters. Too many Putin-loving assholes in the Swiss leadership.
By choosing neutrality they choose russia :/ you cannot really be neutral all the time sometimes you have to choose a side. That said I think our german government also did too little too late and Im also embarrassed for us.
I was trained on the Gepard as a gunner while serving in the German armed forces in 2008. What I appreciated especially about the Gepard is its intuitive operability. A civilian could be trained to operate the turret within a few days, including gun maintenance, reamunitioning and light repairs. Moreover, due to its accuracy, we were able to hit the tiny attachment point to the string of the target sack that was pulled by a plane multiple times during one training day, so that the sack fell to the ground and had to be replaced. For a system from the cold war, it is good accuracy
I think Rheinmetall have already come to that conclusion. They purchased a huge Spanish ammo manufacturer the other week ( forgot the name but you'll find it). on the other side of the coin, I bet the Oerlikon board will be getting twitchy about their future sales prospects given its their ammo not being sent. Perhaps a little self-interested corporate greed here will also help them motivate some Politicians to review that ban.
It's a German tank with Swiss ammo. I guarantee you other ammo exists, just perhaps not from countries supplying Ukraine with the amount they want and/or need.
It's not just random ammo, it's software controlled. The barrel tells the bullet how far the target is, at the very moment it fires, and the bullet explodes just after the right amount of milliseconds. Which means you don't even need a direct hit; the bullet just needs to be in the vicinity of the target. But it also means you can't just use any random bullets, you need to fit your tooling to integrate shell, explosives electronics, and data transfer correctly for the shells to work.
German here, sorry that it took us so long to ramp op our support, but I am glad that we are finaly supplying aid in quantitys. Let this only be the beginning of a much more extensive support program that will hopefully segnificantly shorten the time and casualty number required for Ukrainian victory.
You can also use it quite well against lightly armored ground targets or in urban combat, the twin cannons cut through bricks like butter. greetings from germany
Good job guys... I worked on this radar system 20 years ago as a technician... I think it's very good that the MSR 400 tracking radar with its KU band can also detect small drones. This radar system was actually built for large airplanes. If you read this. Signal transmission takes place via slip rings. They should be treated with care, then there will be no major problems. All that remains is to wish: Take care of yourselves and come back to your families in good health.
@@TubeOrNotTube The Gepard is to my knowledge built on the Leopard 1 Frame. If it also has the same engine, then its engine can run basically on everything. Diesel, Petrol, Aviation Fuel, Sunflower Oil (Fritten Fet)... . The newer engine of the Leopard 2 sadly can't do this anymore, it needs at least 50% diesel.
Reinmetal bought a spanish ammo maker to produce the ammo. I think a Norwegian company also announced it would be willing to start a production run. I think germany should refurbish the rest of its old gepard inventory so the starting of the new ammo production run gets its maximum value. They sure are very very useful in this low cost drrone environment while at the same time russia showing complete incompetence in taking out any specific high value targets itself.
There is only 7 more Gepard systems left with the industry that were supposed to get scrapped but are being refurbished now and will arrive early 2023.
This war has shown that future wars are fought with drones and missiles. In such environment, the Gepard AA tank is a must have. Actually, if Ukraine had say hundred of these, they could build a nearly impenetrable wall of air defense.
Please note that Rheinmetall has built a new production line for Gepard ammonition in Germany, production for Ukraine will starting in Januar 2023. Happy Christmas.
Those are really wild times when Germany sells Ukraine tanks for fighting against Iranian drones in a war Russia started, while Africa is suffering a lack of food transports because of it 🙈 the fights are happening in Ukraine, but it's literally a world war
Also, it's hard to call it a world war, when (on paper!) only 2 partys are engaging in direct combat. Thanks to globalization and trade agreements pretty much every country will be affected by war in some way.
@@Careonovam In most US-wars the USA let others do the main work. See in Irak they supported saddam, in Afghanistan they supported the Taliban. In Bosnien they supportet muslims. In Syria they supportet the islamic state and now they support ukraine against russia. But only for their own goals.
I am glad in two ways. 1) Our big leathal cats protect your country! 2) Your service men are not only extremly brave. They are very quick learners! Respect!
Interesting that an obsolete antiaircraft weapon has new relevancy in the age of cruise missiles and drones. PS - American Army M247 Sergeant York self-propelled antiaircraft gun program was cancelled
It wasn't expected. AA tanks like the Gepard are obsolete against fast moving jets particularly if they have HARM anti radiation missiles or similar weapons. Drones and cruise missiles are very good targets though for the Gepard.
@@artmcteagle that's what it was meant for. The reason they used those big ass 35mm guns was to punch through the heavy armor of Mil Mi-24 Hind helicopters. The guns are propably good enough to shoot down modern helicopters, the problem is that their electronics are propably better than the Gepard's.
The Gepard however was never really obsolete. They always loved it in the german army. It was just a lack of funding, that forced them to make the tough decision and put it out of service. Now they hopefully know better.
The German firm Rheinmetall has acquired the Spanish ammunition manufacturer Expal Systems SA, so as to set up production of 35-mm ammunition for Gepard anti-aircraft guns in Spain, since Switzerland (the original manufacturer of the 35-mm ammo) refused to allow its product to be supplied to Ukraine (Swiss ideas of neutrality between warring parties got in the way apparently).
Rushed out of the retirement home, straight to the battlefield, finally doing what it was born to do: blowing attacking Russians out of the skies. With the advent of suicide-drone warfare, systems like this will make a big comeback. If the enemy launches 100 cheap drones at you, you cannot fire 100 expensive SAMs at them, because you'll most certainly run out of missiles before they run out of drones.
Rheinmetall bought a spanish ammo Producer. They can also make Gepard ammo, so this problem should soon be solved. Impressive that this thing is from the 1970's
1970's is not that long ago The A-10 Thunderbolt II is made since 1975, the M1 Abrams since 1980, the Leopard 2 since 1978, the MLRS since 1983 Like the Gepard, all these weapons got upgrades over the time
Very nice system. Ukraine needs all the help it can get against these Iranian drones. Good for Germany! The Ukrainians are so clever to be able to learn how to operate the systems on an accelerated timeframe. They don't have time to waste. Needs must. SLAVA UKRAINE!
Nah it's not as simple as that. The right wing/fascist party SVP is against it because they get paid by Moscow and the left wing/libtard parties are against it, because "wAr iS bAD". Just my opinion as a swiss citizen.
There is a video circulating on Telegram today, that shows a Gepard shooting down a Russian cruise missile. The Gepard is very precise, and despite the high cadence of the 35mm guns, it only needs few rounds to reliably kill a target. The operators allude to this in the interview.
There needs to be some sort of punitive action taken against Switzerland. There is no reason whatsoever that they should be withholding defensive ammunition from Ukraine. It's an outrage.
While i agree with the sentiment I dont think punishing switzerland would be wise during these volatile times. It could break european unity even more. Better just let switzerland do its own thing..
Important to note, the gepard is monted on a leopard tank hull... Meaning slowly the Ukrainian as been trained with the leopard.... Don't be surprise in a near future to see leopard tank on the battlefield for Ukraine... As long training is not completed we will not know about it... but at some points don't be surprise to see entire unit of leopard on the battlefield with Ukrainian soldiers using them
In face of the utterly evil and state terrorism, you are no longer neutral when you stay "neutral". The Swiss may just pray never to get attacked, savy as they are, being such a small country they'd be pretty hard effed if the rest of the world did decide to stay "neutral" then. Shame on the Swiss government. Hope we find a quick solution to the ammo issue. Glad the Gepards are such a help. All the love and support to Ukraine from Germany. Slava Ukraini🌻🇺🇦
Having a war production is not neutral. Making dark money from dark money is not neutral. Being 'swiss neutral' is just an excuse to be smug in their evil. Swiss neutral should be a new meme.
Pootin's daughter and family are hiding out in Switzzerland. pootin probably hinds his gold and wealth there too. Those cheap swizz are in it for the money and nothing else.
Staying “neutral” is more about the Swiss laundering Russian money and getting rich by hiding fortunes of the worlds most evil individuals, be they Russians, Saudis, Americans, S. Americans, etc. Worshiping false profits is worse than worshiping false prophets.
I'd say that switzerland won't be invaded by nobody. At least not in the near future. Why? Because too many influential people of too many contries have some - uh - unregistered goods stored in the vaults there which are not meant for the grunts which would end liberating the banks.
Thank-You Germany and Superior Warriors. Impressive all the way around. Very disappointed in Switzerland. Europe has excellent leaders. Thought you would be a part in democracy and peace. Have always had respect.
If germany would have wanted the just could have sent the ammo, what could switzerland do about it? They just wanted someone to blame for their slowness.
@@michastankiewicz9966 Poland is a supporter of Ukraine, but also has an undemocratic ruling party (PIS) with close ties to Hungary, which is basically pro-Putin.
According to "Wirtschaftswoche", Rheinmetall has recently bought Spanish ammo manufactorer Expal Systems S.A. Might take some time, but I'm sure they can provide ammo 4 the Gepard.
Hab es auch im Handelsblatt gelesen. Ist wohl eines der größten Werke Europas und voll automatisiert, Umrüstung für 35mm und 155mm soll wohl im Januar beginnen. Frage ist wie zuverlässig das ist. Das Werk soll angeblich in einem Quartal mehr schaffen als alles Rheinmetall Werke zusammen in einem Jahr. 1,2 Milliarden haben die dafür locker gemacht.
@@janreid6217 Munitionsbevorratung wird strategisches Thema. Da hat Europa IMO seine Hausaufgaben nicht gemacht. So gesehen weiser Zug seitens Rheinmetall...
I wish there were more Gepards left in storage. After these additional 7 they're all gone. Some ~40 were left in somewhat ok condition, and with those additional 7 Ukraine has 37 from Germany. Too bad we sold almost all of them a number of years ago. Maybe NATO should look into buying some of them back just for Ukraine. Offer the states using them good money or brand new NATO gear in exchange. This should make them agree to give their Gepards away.
We have also some 30 of those in Romania, but we will go out of short-range anti-aircraft capabilities if we give them to Ukrainians. Will be NATO defended after such donations? I don't think so. So, this is a big problem. So, if Germany can save more from scraping and revive them this is a better way to do things.
@@petrumoldovan2598 that were the last ones remaining. germany has either sold or scrapped all other vehicles since 2010. there are no more than those that got delivered to ukraine
@@zhufortheimpaler4041 Not entirely. I saw a picture on twitter (so take it with a grain of salt) of a storage site in germany where old tanks a stored before being dismantled. There were quiet a number of Gepards left. But no idea when the picture was taken nor what conditions those systems are in.
I haven't seen it yet, but heard there was a video of one shooting down a cruise missile. And you know for every intercept that gets on video, there are a lot more that don't. Hoping it is true.
Finland has been using the Marksman system with the same twin Oerlikons for a long time. I watched it live-fire in excercises once, and that gave the true meaning for "thunder of guns". It made the ground vibrate so hard I felt my feet were not touching it. A truly impressive system, and anything but obsolete. Nothing secures the skies above battle formations better than twin oerlikons.
Schöner Kater, feiner Kater. Haltet unseren ehemaligen Kater stets in Ehren. Auf daß er immer genug Beute vom Himmel holt. Denn unser Kater hat ordentlich Hunger.👍👏💪
So what Germany sent has been validated, from Iris-T , Phz 2000 and now the almost scrapped Gepard (yes the bundeswher was about to retire them, guess they are now back in NEED ) Yeah seems German weapons still live up to the hype :P unlike some Russians equipment, way too much hype , and no performance.
Diehl defence also provided Ukraine with MARS 2 missiles that create a carpet of anti tank mines in the targeted area. Those apparently worked out great for the Ukrainians too.
I'm not Swiss but I live in Switzerland. They have very strict arms export laws. ANY country in war is banned. Please note, that this ban is quite unpopular among the Swiss people, but Switzerland is not a banana republic., they will abbide to the rule of law., no.matter how unpopular a specific case may be. So Don't be too harsh., real life constraints are more complicated than we all may wish.
It's about time! I won't waste time asking why they didn't do it sooner, I'm just glad they did it at all! This is exactly what's been needed, computer operated Hardware to Target those damn drones! I hope you get them all boys, you're doing great work!
@@etuanno but you keep russian oligarch money in your banks. Same thing was in WW2 you were suppose to be neutral but you kept nazi gold in your vaults. Gold that was taken from jews' teeths that went to gas chamber. Shame on you.
@@JackLondonen Shame on you for accusing us of concealing oligarch money. We siezed it and have the same sanctions as the EU. The WW2 stuff was sad but what can you do when your country is completely surrounded by the Axis powers and you NEED to import food because otherwise your population starves?!? If you make business with the bad people, they leave you alone because you're worth more when the factories aren't burned to the ground.
@@etuanno funny that considering all the oligarch money in your banks, just like with the nazis the swiss will feign neutrality for as long as possible so you can keep that money once the war is over. Morally bankrupt cowards.
Good luck to all of you Gepard Crew´s. May our cat help you defedending youre country and youre lives. Slava Ukraine Greatings and best wishes from Germany
Ein letzter Versuch sich wichtig zu machen, welche Wunderwaffen hat man noch im Fuehrerbunker versteckt? Wann wird der Volkssturm aus den Pflegeheimen geschickt, mit Karabiner , und Gasmaske am Fahrradlenker und Volker Lechtenbrink (die Bruecke..) am Maschinengewehr....? Wiederholt sich die Geschichte doch?
I am glad to see the gepards being used for a very important task. First it looked like a kind of alibi help, but they obviously are useful. Hope my country delivers more to repell the russian army. Freedom for Ukraine 🇺🇦.
Oerlikon is the Swiss company that owns the patent on the ammunition. Oerlikon is owned by Rheinmetall. The ammunition design/type for the Gepard is produced in Switzerland, and is subject to Swiss arms export agreements. However, many other countries use Oerlikon 35mm AA guns, and produce ammunition under license. Rheinmetall had no need for another factory until the Swiss government decided to enforce the transfer ban. It seems the other licensees can be allowed to produce ammunition for the Gepard, but few have been willing to make the required investments, and none have been willing to invest in expanded production. The fact that Rheinmetall just bought a factory in Spain for this purpose could be one reason- why invest in new capacity when the patent owner can just do it themselves. No point competing with Rheinmetall using a license from Rheinmetall, so just use the license for its original intent- to insure supply for domestic defense.
Left political parties and anti-army groups in Switzerland imposed some 50 years ago laws on restricting weapon exports - including restrictions to customers abroad for reexporting. When Germany bought 35mm ammunition from the Swiss manufacturer, they had to sign an agreement on not re-exporting to third parties. It's unacceptable that Swiss federal government is not lifting the ban (despite being a legal problem) and not understandable why Germany is not simply overruling that restriction (Switzerland has no means imposing it). The former manufacturer Oerlikon-Bührle group weapons division belongs now to German Rheinmetall company - they should close the manufacturing facility in Switzerland, move the production to Germany or an other Nato country.
I am frankly disgusted with the Swiss. The EU should simply nationalise the ammunition design and authorise its production without any Swiss involvement. If they wish to sue I am happy to be on the jury to decide Switzerland's compensation for copyright theft. I didn't realise you could be neutral about fascist invasions - but I suppose they were last time too. I bet they have billions and billions of stolen russian money that they haven't impounded either....swiss franc.... the currency of corruption and they know it.
I have a lot of respect for the Ukranians adapting to Putins terror that fast and for not giving in. I am happy that German technology makes a difference in Ukraine, but I whish we also would send combat tanks. I realy hope, this will change as soon as possible. Slava Ukraini!
Today it was announced that Germany wont build its ammunition in switzerland anymore since it is such an unreliable partner in terms of weapons. Really glad to see our politicians acting fast without spending months or years talking about possibilities!
Who has announced this and where?😮
@@claus-not-santa The Swiss Newsoutlet Tagesanzeiger printed an article today: Deutschland will keine Schweizer Munition mehr kaufen -
Die Regierung in Berlin und die deutsche Rüstungsindustrie arbeiten daran, unabhängig von der Produktion in der Schweiz zu werden. Dabei geht es um viel mehr als den Gepard. Davon betroffen sei nicht nur der längst ausgemusterte Gepard. Auch die Munition des Schützenpanzers Puma, der Kampfjets Eurofighter und Tornado und des Flugabwehrsystem Mantis stamme aus Schweizer Produktion. This is about time. Things have changed. We not need this kind of partner, oportunistic little traitors, who enjoy protection in the middle of Europe while denying aid to a european country subject to a Vernichtungskrieg from the new Russian Nazi Reich. Not a single European NATO country will buy anything military related from Switzerland anymore, thats almost certain.
Yeah Germany is slow in making decisions. The Gepards took 6 months since it was promised to be delivered. So much beaurocracy there. As simple as getting married is a nightmare to go through with so much red tape you had to go through.
they need to source from the UK, its what we best at, prouducing war munitions
@@Joeladgra rules and procedures are there for a reason and usually assure things working properly, this is the base of "made in germany" and why german engineering and manufacturing has always been highest standard...but sometimes things could be little quicker I agree
As a german i can tell you that I am very proud that the Gepard is well suited to protect you. I hope you guys are doing well and the war will end soon with victory of Ukraine. May god bless you.
Help from german people is vital. Thank you!!!
Those Guepards shooting down russian drones...priceless...Even tho they need some other anti drone systems...
Ich bin auch Deutscher und hoffe, dass unser Land bis zur endgültigen Niederlage der einfallenden russischen Barbaren nicht aufhört, der Ukraine zu helfen.
@@daniellucena9694 cattling guns
As a non German I am very happy that Germany seems to be finally getting its act together, and fine weapons like this will definitely put a dent in the Russian's plans, if they even have any (sometimes I'm not convinced that they do, the current obsession with Bakmut is a little weird, maybe to gain SOMETHING, anything?).
IMO there are more important things the Russians should be doing right now...including actually using some of their top weaponry for something MILITARILY useful. I just mistyped plans as planes, which made it funnier, actually. Hopefully it will do some of that, too, against manned full size stuff. I can hardly wait to see some video of that occurring. :-) Cheers from the US.
I will say one other thing, at least Germany isn't afraid to put a tank in. Better than we are doing, so far, in that area, but that will soon change, as it will almost certainly have too, and not in the far future. That, or somebody needs to be producing shells for Russian/Ukrainian weaponry at a scorching rate. Pretty sure they aren't.
Oh, and that KF-51 of yours, that thing is to drool over. It looks more like a spacecraft inside than a tank. When the stuff around it gets integrated (other weapons, men, etc) into its systems, it is going to be a BEAST! Not that the Leopard II is any slouch. I would guess that one is similar to the highly upgraded Abrams vehicles in capabilities. It is becoming inherently obvious to me that a SERIOUS and extended anti drone capabilities be built into all of them . That should be easy peasy, especially for the stationary quad type grenade droppers, just needs to get done.
Although I'm a former tanker, I've always admired the Gepard. I'm glad today's remote-controlled aircraft and gliding missiles fit the profile, to renew Gepard's usefulness, protecting things.
@@petunized why would they show the locations of there defence on video?
Russia gets instantly shelled as soon as some little street sign gets geo-located Russia could so the same to them...
@@petunized here is one from yesterday's attack th-cam.com/video/3lGSwkzWkMs/w-d-xo.html
@@hssdiv That was the one EVER, not just from yesterday attack.
That's all the 30 gepards had achieved for over a month.
@@SuperUltimateLP Gepard is mobile. They can easily move it.
Oh and they show every success they can acheive. They desperately need it. For them it's mostly propaganda war.
@@petunized that's a lot of assuming going on there...
You don't know that is the reason, stop thinking you are smarter then everybody else.
Gepard is still a capable system and the 35mm if used in a anti amor role would still shred cold war tanks...
It's really unlikely that they have in all that time just downed one Missile...
They fired 2 salvos and hit a flying Missile, I can't imagine that they perform badly!
Edit: spelling
Gotta love Gepards, also cheaper to use against drones, than waste an anti-aircraft missiles on them.
If a 100k missile save 1m of damage, its not a waste.
@@ironmantooltime: but If 15k in fuzed ammo shoots down 50 drones.
@@ProfessorFickle Then "we got us a Convoy!". :-)
@@ProfessorFickle They said they only need 150 rounds for 50 drones.😅
@@ironmantooltime If it is all that is available at the location/time, true that, but doing it cheaper and even more importantly with ammo that is more quickly replaced, is better, if available and effective...and I expect this German tank probably is if available within strike range. The even more important issue than bucks destroyed is life destroyed, since most of these drones are intended to hurt and kill civilians, directly or indirectly (power, water, etc).
Anti missiles are better used against missiles, and the fewer that are used to take down drones, the better, so they are available for the tougher intercepts.
Good to see our Gepards in the Ukraine in action! 👊
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@@taxesdeathandtrouble.1886 nothing in particular to be honest. We are used to our tanks having big cat names ;-)
Thanks allot Germany 💙💛 peace
@@taxesdeathandtrouble.1886 German tanks have by historical reasons wildcat names.
Yes, i remember those Gepards from my time when i served in the military. Good to see, they are used to protect our freedom and many lives.
After years of not firing in anger, the Gepards are validating their designers' faith in them. Nice work!
Thanks Germany.
T(h)anks Germany
What on earth are Switzerland doing? Should be ashamed of themselves! Neutral in WW2 aswell!
You are welcome 😉
@@gretebremseth1622 Switzerland has sold it‘s Ass to Putin! They are Scum
@@gretebremseth1622 Germany should cut the energy delivery to Switzerland this winter
The difference between the German crew training and Ukraine crew training is, one is practice and the other survival. You learn fast if you want to survive.
I wish the soldiers to survive and also the Ukrainian people 🌻
I am totally in awe of Ukranian soldiers so far. They are so quick on the uptake of all the new weapon systems, they are clever and very resourceful - and keep their humor and humanity intact. Amazing folks!
Like one of the guys says: If you dont operate the Gepard's computer properly, you have to reboot the whole system which is a f*** waste of time... 😂 That's an attitude!
If push comes to shove, better have Ukraine on your team 🇺🇦💙💛🇺🇦
@@lennardschneider6847 i agree with your assessment complete. I could not express it so well.🌻
I think they skipped less important lessons. And skipped all the other stuff german operators having to learn. AND i don't think german soilders are trained 12 Hours a day.
I bet the 18 months are about conscripts since that is mainly what the Bundswehr had back in the day when these were front line equipment. We were not a professional army. They also thought it took 18 months to "train" us as lorry drivers.
Then it got shortened more and more as the iron curtain fell and of the 12 months I actually ended up serving in '90/91, I mainly sat on my ass and was bored for half of the time.
And still couldn't drive a lorry cross country to save my life, let alone shoot a gun properly because they just flat-out refused to teach us.
I did learn to ride a moped cross-country though. _That_ only took two weeks since I had been doing basic moped riding for four years already.
Finally the very long Gepard story is finding its feet and purpose in Ukraine, it really is an amazing system, I cant believe how fast it can swing around that huge turrent. As a citizen of the world, I want to give my greatest gratitude to Germany and it's people for sending so many of these systems to Ukraine, please keep sending them more! As for the Swiss, I hope they can find a way to see that the right thing to do is to send the ammunition, I don't think it needs any more explaination or justification, it just needs to be done ASAP.
With 7 more to come thats unfortunately all, there are no more Gepards in german inventory.
@@honnebombll ...but other nations have them and also similar systems.
@@dieterdodel835 Yes of course, but its not up to us what happens with them.
Rheinmetall (the company that build the Gepard and its ammo) baught a new ammo-factory in spain in November. So now they can shift the ammo production for the Gepard from swiss to spain.
Maybe we can get back the 15 Gepards that were send to the Football World Cup in Katar.
I have so much respect for the Ukrainian soldiers. They have had to learn so much in such a short amount of time to hold back and push back the Russians. You all rock! Glory to Ukraine!
And they've gotten to the point where they are teaching the countries that developed some of these weapons new and better ways to use them. I have seen multiple NATO member generals, including US, say exactly that.
As absurd as it sounded, dragging that missile out into the ocean to get the range they needed from what they had available worked. That's some goofy genius, right there. I helped design some weapons for a defense manufacturer, and related back that would have gotten a WTH out of me...and then something like "nice".
The Ukrainians REALLY think outside the boxes. The mother of invention, and all that. You can also turn some of this knowledge around to use as a developer of said weapons to add features to support some of that usage more readily, fix deficiencies found, etc., if the design company is so inclined.
And yes, I have heard they come up the learning curves very fast. There it is the fact that the Wolf is motivated, while the rabbit is committed. Luckily in Ukraine the Wolf doesn't even seem to be to motivated, for the most part, and when you look at the overwhelming advantage they have in weapons and ammo, in some cases the ONLY ones with certain weapons, like long range missiles and cruise missiles, it is a good thing.
The Ukrainians are great, but the Russians making a mess of most of this is good, too. But don't let anybody tell you they are totally incompetent, the real military, anyway (conscripts with no previous experience and no training, not enough to matter anyway, probably mostly are). In some areas there are massive Ukrainian casualties, and the Ukrainian civilian casualties, when all is said and done are going to be staggering, I expect. The Ukrainians actually thanked one of the military higher ups with a letter for his contribution into level of corruption going on. I think that may have been slightly before the main invasion.
jew jingoists are the worst.
@@MrJdsenior Did you know it was the Ukrainians that invented and manufactured all Russians weaponry until 2014 when Putin stole Crimea and the Donbass.
When Putin stole the Donbass, it was Ukraine's industrial complexes that built Russians military hardware.
Putin ordered the Russian military to ran sack all of the Ukraine's factories of machinery then all of the machinery was sent to Russia.
The problem then the Russian found was they stole the machinery to make the weapons, but the Russians lacked the brains to build the Military weapons.
K Cuzz The Russian speaking Ukrainians fighting the neo Nazi government supported by NATO are Ukrainian soldiers also. You must be the wise one in your hospital.
Imbecile try Education.
Odessa may 2 2014 mass murder of harmless Russian speaking Ukrainians
@@dannyormond6839 When you write lying garbage like you every one really knows that you are a subhuman savage mongrel barbarian Russian scum paid troll
I think a Norwegian ammunition manufacturer has agreed to start new production of this special type of ammunition for these anti-aircraft guns on the Gepard.
there is reliability problems with their ammuntion right now
Norwegian ammo is first class. You don’t know much about norwegian military weapons and ammunition, if you don’t know that.
Yes in June but maybe it's not enough for war consumption.
Yeah I heard this as well. Apparently they will be making the smart 35 mm shells needed for the guns. This was mentioned sometime ago now so it’s weird that it wasn’t specifically mentioned at the end of the video. That is unless there is some issue right now with the contract. Either way though, I really hope this will be happening soon. This anti-aircraft system is exactly what Ukraine needs right now, and they need as much ammunition as possible for every calibre of weapons needed. Let alone new spare parts for the vehicles that are getting worn out.
It's NAMMO
Hopefully a country with more guts than Switzerland will step up and make the shells they need for the Gepards.
Rheinmetall bought a spanish company last week for shell production and Gepard ammo.
You can be certain the Swiss have the guts to handle and bank billions of rubles, euros, pounds and dollars from nations that are either at war in Ukraine or assisting in it, the same as in 2 the world wars. Still, as long as the the Swiss think that they are maintaining their pristine morality, thats the main thing.
The Swiss said: "Why do the germans always blame us? And why do they even comply with the contract?"
yeah, switzerland is a country of half-baked wimps. always "neutral" while in reality they profited from Nazi Germany and to this day they profit form just about every nation's criminals and cartels with their banking laws. A country of rich hypocrites everyone dislikes and for good reasons. take a damn side, you swiss wusses!
Let‘s Start a Special Operation in Switzerland
Gepard once consider niche/obselete, now back in the light with a new role.
Upcycling
It's a weird thought - created at a time with attack helicopters in mind, when the idea of drones was merely sience fiction. Who'd thought back in the 70s they'd work so well in 2022.
@@69quato probably the people building & using them back in the seventies thought they'd be pretty useful (yeah, there have been UAVs/drones around since then).
Seems like the rise in drone usage should make this system a no-brainer and begin new production and new R&D for even better systems.
Yeah, just looking at them now, it’s hard to think they were ever considered obsolete.
I know its an older weapon system, but i just love the Gepards, they are so OP.
well, against the Shaheds they are perfect, also against a range of other Russian aircraft and helis. And ammo is a tad cheaper than AA missiles.
I think they were last upgraded in the 2000s. they were actually still very up to date when the bundeswehr got rid of them. that's why they're some of the best weapons germany has just laying around .
it's 20 ish years old.
This is the 1A2 variant, not the much older B2L/1A1.
Exactly what is needed to shoot down drones. Radar aimed Anti Aircraft Artillery. :)
life isn't a video game
Thank you Germany and please send more. Ahh, and remember to tell France the same! Greetings from Poland
Many thanks to the Polish people for supporting Ukraine so strongly. ❣Greetings from Germany!
Slava Ukraini
Tak jest, bardzo chetnie - bendze me robic - tylko moje "Francusko od Matura" nie jest super doskonale - od jakies Niemiec ktore umio Popolsku movic. I tez Dzin kuje na wasze Pomoc ( PL-Ludzie + PL-Urzad ) do UA tez >> te ponad 200 Czolgi (Tanki > T 55 + T 72 ) + Pierune-Rakiete + etc. etc. + duzo duzo inne Pomoc do UA-Ludzie.. Greetings from Germany. I jeszcze cos >> Tak, Polska ma ratzie na wiele politiczne Tematu - especialy Temat > Ukraine i Temat > Politiczne Islam.... Dzin kuje. May God The Lord bless Polska. Amen.
I read that 7 more Gepard's are coming to Ukraine and the problem of lack of ammunition is also solved. Rheinmetall has bought a Spanish ammunition company and the Norwegian company NAMMO now also produces ammunition for the Gepard. If we all work together, we can move mountains. Thanks also to our neighbors in Poland who have done so much. Greetings from Germany. Slava Ukraini.
First nice comment about germany from a polish person I have read in years. Thank you so much! plz tell your government and the people whoe vote for piss party to stop hating germany plz. We're friends now
@@Micha-qv5uf i thought exactly the same.
I was a Leopard2 Driver in 1989 and I could experience the Gepard in some maneuvers I took part. I sat in the Leo2 when we shot live ammunition and it's a experience of its own. But hearing the Gepard firing his two 35mm Cannons made me Goosebumps. Holy Christ, the Sound is terryfiying.
P.S. At this time there were more than 400!! Gepards in Service in the German Army and more than 2500 Leopard 2.
In 1989 we still had leopard 1.
More successful would be sending Stallone, Schwarzenegger, Van Damme and Tom Cruise to fight in Ukraine, they are far more efficient than all that overpriced gear
The Gepard was made for "... wenn der Russe kommt".
That irony but true ...
It’s fulfilling the exact same mission it was originally designed for - only a further 1,000km to the east.
And I‘m pleasantly surprised by how effective it still is.
Der Russe kommt aber nicht, er schickt seine Sklaven, die Raketen, die kosten weniger Moneten.
Die Russen werden nie wieder kommen, was sollten sie in Deutschland wollen? Unterstellt man den Russen sie wuerden ein Aktenpflegeheim uebernehmen wollen? Und ein Drittel der Bewohner schon Araber und Adrikaner, alle vom Staat versorgt, niemals zu einer Arbeit/Taetigkeit faehig? Diese Suppe laesst man natuerlich die Deutschen selber ausloeffeln, hoffentlich koennen sie noch loeffeln ?
@@sigridqwq5198
_...Der Russe kommt aber nicht..._
Er ist längst da. Aufwachen!
_...was sollten sie in Deutschland wollen? ..._
Das haben selbst Ukrainer schon über die Ukraine gesagt. Der Russe (gemeint ist das Regime in Moskau) nimmt alles was er kriegen kann, siehe Tschetschenien. Wäre die Verteidigung in den freien Ländern nicht so heruntergewirtschaftet worden, oder die Ukraine hätte ihre Atomwaffen behalten, wäre der Russe vermutlich nie gekommen. Einem Putin kann man nicht mit Toleranz kommen. Das wird als Schwäche missverstanden. Einen Gepard versteht er.
Whole germany was made to be sacrificed by NATO fascism "wenn der Russe kommt."
This tank has saved a lot of lives and hasn't killed anyone.
the Gepard was vital during the Charkiw offensive where it shot down helicopters and even jets as a Gepard crew stated. I wouldn't put my hand in the fire for nobody getting killed in the process.
Shot down a rocket
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I'd like to see it destroy a company of Kadyrovites or Wagner bastards.
@@webcrawler9782 Have heared this too. Even that it was used vs ground targets since its cannons deliver morefirepower then any non battle tank and its radar was usefull to coordinate the manpads. Those drones are so slow (150 km/h?) That they can be radar tracked for minutes before getting close.
@@tyrson2445 Not unrealistic, the Gepard has a special fire mode (manually aimed single shot) against ground targets and carries dedicated anti-ground-target armor piercing ammunition in separate magazines.
Thanks to those machines we are able defend ourselves.
Thank you, Germany.
🇺🇦🤝🇩🇪
I never thought there would come a day when I would actually feel proud of my country to deliver weapons into a war zone. Slava Ukraini
Same! 🇩🇪❤️💛💙🇺🇦
And why you feel proud now??😮
@@claus-not-santa Because Germany is doing the right thing!
Shot down a rocket 🇩🇪❤️
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Das zeigt dir mal wie inkongruent deine vermeintliche Moral ist
I had a friend who was commander on a Gepard, we called them 'Pruttel' in the Dutch army. He was a conscript in 1980, served 16 months as a sergeant. They had 2 teams on each Gepard so they could operate for 24 hours. It was a boy's dream serving on such a mighty AA tank.
It's one of the most shit anti air system there are. Not even Bundeswehr hold them in the army and they run on old crap...
So even for Bundeswehr it was too crappy.
@@miriamweller812 The Bundeswehr did not hold because politicians thought the cold war is over and a system like that was no longer needed. It was modernized before and is still one of the best anti air cannon systems in the world.
Only thing important now however is, that the Ukrainians like the tank.
@@miriamweller812 why do you think it's the most shit anti air system? Alot of countries like the netherlands, brazil and Qatar still operate them.
@@miriamweller812 Your comments show what you really are - A Russian troll.
@@miriamweller812
Your statement is completely wrong. it has been phased out from service like many systems from the 70s and 80s. It’s actually proven itself when in service and now even more so in bringing down drones
As a ex-gunner and driver of Gepard i am happy to see that our Gepard´s do a helpful job and save lives!
Take good care for them.
Nazi Scum! NSDAP/DieGrünen!
Glad to see we can at least help some - Love from Germany
Eva, wie helfen sie denn ? Warum kleben sie sich nicht in der Ukraine an? Koennte hilfreich sein...
Thank you to all countries and all people who help and support Ukraine. Please Donate and help Ukraine get through this winter. Slava Ukraine.
Harold, hoffentlich macht der Winter sein Ding........
Finished with an Ukrainian "Sieg Heil", congrats.
An no. No help for Nazis. PIss off.
@@sigridqwq5198 I didn't get what you meant here. For us, ukraininans, it sounds like "russian terrorists will succeed in destroying power systems and winter will force us to surrender". I hope that is _not_ what you tried to say.
But if you were talking about russians will freeze in trenches - you should also know, our people will also freeze in trenches without decent support. Russia is actualy more northern country than we are, although enormous corruption in their armed forces rendered them severe shortage of proper gear.
In fact, we still stand thanks to russia having corruption in much biger scale, than anyone have thought, and Ukraine is actually not as corrupted as we felt it (still far from perfect though). Otherwise it would be very straightforward invasion. Thankfully, things went the way they did.
But now we _need_ all the support to push them back ASAP, because every day of war means more farthers, mothers, husbands, wifes, brothers, sisters, sons and daughters who will never return to their families. We do not demand, as noone is ought to help us - but we are asking. And we are thankfull for every bit of support.
Sooner or later… you’ll loose this “war”.
If people had more access to information about the real Ukraine, you would lose more than half of the support you are getting.
The Gepard always were my favorite tanks. They were soooo high tech and ahead of their time when they came out, and it greatly saddened me to see them mustered out. Although I wish to god they weren't needed, it is somehow deeply satisfying seeing them get to do the job they were built for after all, protecting the innocent and helpless from mindless violence. They are beautiful machines and they finally are receiving the accolades they so richly deserve.
More successful would be sending Stallone, Schwarzenegger, Van Damme and Tom Cruise to fight in Ukraine, they are far more efficient than all that overpriced gear
Thanks to Germany God bless 🙏
Nene, God bless you, you need it more...
For many decades, Germans have proudly watched their "toys" like Gepard, Leopard, or Panzerhaubitze 2000 whenever being shown in the media, but they have never been more than that in our minds: Just expensive toys. It´s surreal to see them being placed into a real war now, it´s such a strange feeling. Playtime is over: Our toys have become lethal weapons of war now, as it seems...
Thanks for keeping this toys in good conditions for such a big amount of time, now it saves lives of so many innocent people in Ukraine. Thx for great toys from all Ukrainians 😉
Where are the leopards?
@@janvandermeer6159 Yeah, I was wondering, too, and it infuriates me to see, how timid and cowardly German politics have become over the years. They will do everything to avoid sending about 150 Leopards down to Ukraine, which are definitely available. Part of the truth also is, that we got a completely incompetent defense minister woman (Albrecht), an old hag that has literally done nothing since February to improve the miserable state of being for our "Bundeswehr" (German army): Our opposition in the Bundestag recently found out, that not a single bullet, tank or aircraft has been ordered in the industry since the beginning of the year, although there is a huge budget available. She is a total embarrassment and I feel ashamed of her because she is unable to cope with the huge challenge the new situation is posing right now. A lot more time will go by until our Chancellor understands, what kind of failure this woman is. Don´t expect much more help as long as this minister is in charge of our Bundeswehr.
Every weapons developer and researcher on Earth is experiencing a golden age of data regarding the 120 years worth of weapons being used in this conflict.
rather than "lethal weapons of war" perhaps, "a vital means of saving lives from brutal weapons of war."
It's interesting that an 'obsolete' piece of equipment like this has turned out to be so useful on a modern battlefield. It's incidental self defense capability is a big plus if itself is attacked by drones or missiles.
The "obsolete" part of its framework is now totally computerized, completely optimizing and modernizing it for present day seek and kill.
The enemy is using equipment from the cold war area, when this tank was developed....
@@frankbr5991 even so, if the radar can lock on and the target is within firing range it will still destroy anything modern flying in the sky.
It was obsolete between 1990 and 2020 but it became useful again after drones begun to make their impact on battlefield. Modern airplanes and helicopters can kill Gepard from further away than it can shoot back so it´s not useful for its original purpose...
@@henrihamalainen300 twin 35mm autocannons with lock on are never out of date.
I would understand neutral Switzerland not selling ammo for offensive weapons, but the Gepard is a defensive anti-aircraft weapon. Besides, being "neutral" not selling defensive ammo to Ukraine means being not neutral by supporting Russia's invasion. There are only 2 camps here, and not selling weapons to both actually means supporting Russia in this case, making the Swiss Getards.
Have you ever seen what a Gepard can do with a Russian T-tank? It looks like Swiss cheese afterwards.
@Tracchofyre Right, but that's not how Ukraine is planning on using these precious few Gepards. As I understand it's meant to be used as anti-aircraft, not deployed on the front line to attack tanks, which Ukraine can destroy in many other ways.
@tosa I'd say that's not the Gepard's fault these turret throwers have alu foil armor..
The Swiss are very neutral. Especially towards scumbags with lots of money.
The swiss are a major contributer to the right wing wave in Europe and the US, in Germany and Austria the right wing parties are under investigation for illegal funding by swiss donors and Russia contributed much for those parties too, we know in which boat they sit
Schön zu sehen, dass die Geparden jetzt in guten Händen sind. Viel Glück und Erfolg damit.
Genau. endlich einmal aber sehr gut gemacht! Diese Verteidigung rettet Kinder.
Dito. Sehe ich genau so ! Nur komme ich gerade nicht hinterher was da in der Schweiz passiert kann mich da jemand in kurz Form informieren?
@@kikimuff1992 Die interessieren sich mal wieder mehr für ihre Banken - in denen wohl noch etliches Russengold schlummert - und "Neutralität" als endlich mal Position zu beziehen. Unser Zögerscholz ist ja auch so ähnlich drauf…
@@kikimuff1992 Man nennt es "Neutralität"
Kurz genug?
@@rantanplan178 sagt einer der grössten waffenlieferanten. Haben sogar Nazideutschland mit Waffen versorgt. Um sich ein paar Jahre später liegengebliebene jüdische Vermögen sich unter den Nagel zu reissen. Schämt euch!
10 drones downed on one mission! Those guys must have been flying high after that day.
Don't believe everything you see on the news unless there is video footage to prove it. Most information coming out of Ukraine is false to keep up the morale and support from western countries.
This weapon is probably one of the most effective conventional weapon systems ever made !!!!
C'mon Switzerland, why the ban. Give em what they request. It will benefit you too
Hugely disappointed in Switzerland 😑
Russian money in Swiss bank accounts for sure.
As a Swiss I feel deeply ashamed. It's cowardice and a lack of loyalty with our European brothers and sisters. Too many Putin-loving assholes in the Swiss leadership.
@@Rafael-xt1nm Just like they did back in the 40s with the nazis
Cui bono.
I'm Swiss and I think our Bundesräte are spineless cowards for knowingly leaving the Ukrainians without those 35mm bullets.
They should finally give up, gas > ukrainians
@@mishkasamogonoff6415 go cry to mommy p.ssy boy
@@mishkasamogonoff6415 This isn't about gas. It's part of the Swiss neutrality.
By choosing neutrality they choose russia :/ you cannot really be neutral all the time sometimes you have to choose a side. That said I think our german government also did too little too late and Im also embarrassed for us.
Yes! War can only be solved through more war! Please think about it.
I was trained on the Gepard as a gunner while serving in the German armed forces in 2008. What I appreciated especially about the Gepard is its intuitive operability. A civilian could be trained to operate the turret within a few days, including gun maintenance, reamunitioning and light repairs. Moreover, due to its accuracy, we were able to hit the tiny attachment point to the string of the target sack that was pulled by a plane multiple times during one training day, so that the sack fell to the ground and had to be replaced. For a system from the cold war, it is good accuracy
How about manufacturing 35mm shells in other countries and stop purchasing anything from Switzerland?
I think Rheinmetall have already come to that conclusion. They purchased a huge Spanish ammo manufacturer the other week ( forgot the name but you'll find it).
on the other side of the coin, I bet the Oerlikon board will be getting twitchy about their future sales prospects given its their ammo not being sent.
Perhaps a little self-interested corporate greed here will also help them motivate some Politicians to review that ban.
Rheinmetall recently bought a ammunition factory in Spain to do exactly that….
It's a German tank with Swiss ammo. I guarantee you other ammo exists, just perhaps not from countries supplying Ukraine with the amount they want and/or need.
It's not just random ammo, it's software controlled. The barrel tells the bullet how far the target is, at the very moment it fires, and the bullet explodes just after the right amount of milliseconds. Which means you don't even need a direct hit; the bullet just needs to be in the vicinity of the target. But it also means you can't just use any random bullets, you need to fit your tooling to integrate shell, explosives electronics, and data transfer correctly for the shells to work.
Duh
German here, sorry that it took us so long to ramp op our support, but I am glad that we are finaly supplying aid in quantitys. Let this only be the beginning of a much more extensive support program that will hopefully segnificantly shorten the time and casualty number required for Ukrainian victory.
I ve got shiploads of money. Where can I buy a leopard? An A4 will do.
There will not be any Ukrainian victory!!
You can also use it quite well against lightly armored ground targets or in urban combat, the twin cannons cut through bricks like butter. greetings from germany
To think we put them out of service ! Insane!
There are newer german systems, which are more effective, but not available in scale - like mantis, same range as the gepard, but much smaller.
Or Skyranger on a boxer chassie!
I have confidence in anything made in Germany. Now ,if the could get a hold to a few Leopards that would be fantastic.
Go shopping by Rheinmetall.
@@andik859 , today no shopping, no Kredit Card fore looser...
@@sigridqwq5198 no money, no tanks. Germany is no credit bank.
@@andik859 Yeah... about that.
Good job guys... I worked on this radar system 20 years ago as a technician...
I think it's very good that the MSR 400 tracking radar with its KU band can also detect small drones.
This radar system was actually built for large airplanes.
If you read this. Signal transmission takes place via slip rings. They should be treated with care, then there will be no major problems.
All that remains is to wish:
Take care of yourselves and come back to your families in good health.
May God protect and liberate Ukraine !!! Slava Ukraini !!!
from germany with love.. good luck
What a smooth sound of the engine. I like it. Old but not obsolete. Imagine that how effective could be the new version the LINX .
Well yes the linx can be used for AA, however a Mantis turret with its airburst programmable ammunition would be the better fit.
@@TubeOrNotTube you guys know how we germans feel about Diesel. *SNIFF* Its fucking delicious
@@TubeOrNotTube The Gepard is to my knowledge built on the Leopard 1 Frame. If it also has the same engine, then its engine can run basically on everything. Diesel, Petrol, Aviation Fuel, Sunflower Oil (Fritten Fet)... .
The newer engine of the Leopard 2 sadly can't do this anymore, it needs at least 50% diesel.
@@tridder both Linux, Puma and Mantis can use AHEAD Ammunition (airburst) with modifications the Gepard could do the same.
After half a century it still looks like something from Star Wars.
Kraut Space Magic!
Reinmetal bought a spanish ammo maker to produce the ammo. I think a Norwegian company also announced it would be willing to start a production run.
I think germany should refurbish the rest of its old gepard inventory so the starting of the new ammo production run gets its maximum value. They sure are very very useful in this low cost drrone environment while at the same time russia showing complete incompetence in taking out any specific high value targets itself.
There is only 7 more Gepard systems left with the industry that were supposed to get scrapped but are being refurbished now and will arrive early 2023.
@@Vatnik_tschistilka source? German goverment announced to send 7 more as soon they are ready. But where did it say there are only 7 left?
This war has shown that future wars are fought with drones and missiles. In such environment, the Gepard AA tank is a must have. Actually, if Ukraine had say hundred of these, they could build a nearly impenetrable wall of air defense.
Please note that Rheinmetall has built a new production line for Gepard ammonition in Germany, production for Ukraine will starting in Januar 2023. Happy Christmas.
Thank you Germany !
Those are really wild times when Germany sells Ukraine tanks for fighting against Iranian drones in a war Russia started, while Africa is suffering a lack of food transports because of it 🙈 the fights are happening in Ukraine, but it's literally a world war
Most of them weren't sold as far as i know, they were donated.
sells?
USA started the war
Also, it's hard to call it a world war, when (on paper!) only 2 partys are engaging in direct combat. Thanks to globalization and trade agreements pretty much every country will be affected by war in some way.
@@Careonovam In most US-wars the USA let others do the main work. See in Irak they supported saddam, in Afghanistan they supported the Taliban. In Bosnien they supportet muslims. In Syria they supportet the islamic state and now they support ukraine against russia. But only for their own goals.
Germany make awesome weapons systems. Thanks
I am glad in two ways. 1) Our big leathal cats protect your country! 2) Your service men are not only extremly brave. They are very quick learners! Respect!
Thank Germany for helping Ukraine! This is great news!
Interesting that an obsolete antiaircraft weapon has new relevancy in the age of cruise missiles and drones.
PS - American Army M247 Sergeant York self-propelled antiaircraft gun program was cancelled
It wasn't expected.
AA tanks like the Gepard are obsolete against fast moving jets particularly if they have HARM anti radiation missiles or similar weapons. Drones and cruise missiles are very good targets though for the Gepard.
I imagine they would be devastating against any helicopter within range as well.
@@artmcteagle that's what it was meant for. The reason they used those big ass 35mm guns was to punch through the heavy armor of Mil Mi-24 Hind helicopters.
The guns are propably good enough to shoot down modern helicopters, the problem is that their electronics are propably better than the Gepard's.
The Gepard however was never really obsolete. They always loved it in the german army. It was just a lack of funding, that forced them to make the tough decision and put it out of service. Now they hopefully know better.
@@Marvin-dg8vj This is absolutely wrong.
Switzerland - SHAME ON YOU!
Shame on swiss politicians*
The German firm Rheinmetall has acquired the Spanish ammunition manufacturer Expal Systems SA, so as to set up production of 35-mm ammunition for Gepard anti-aircraft guns in Spain, since Switzerland (the original manufacturer of the 35-mm ammo) refused to allow its product to be supplied to Ukraine (Swiss ideas of neutrality between warring parties got in the way apparently).
Interesting! Thank you
Rushed out of the retirement home, straight to the battlefield, finally doing what it was born to do: blowing attacking Russians out of the skies.
With the advent of suicide-drone warfare, systems like this will make a big comeback. If the enemy launches 100 cheap drones at you, you cannot fire 100 expensive SAMs at them, because you'll most certainly run out of missiles before they run out of drones.
Also a missile probably costs 10 or 20 times more than that kind of drone.
Rheinmetall bought a spanish ammo Producer. They can also make Gepard ammo, so this problem should soon be solved. Impressive that this thing is from the 1970's
1970's is not that long ago
The A-10 Thunderbolt II is made since 1975, the M1 Abrams since 1980, the Leopard 2 since 1978, the MLRS since 1983
Like the Gepard, all these weapons got upgrades over the time
@@Sorblex dont forget the MG3 which is basicly a MG42 or the legendary US 50cal Machinegun :)
@@Davidt1066 or the C-130. Or OV-10 Bronco, etc etc etc
Very nice system. Ukraine needs all the help it can get against these Iranian drones. Good for Germany! The Ukrainians are so clever to be able to learn how to operate the systems on an accelerated timeframe. They don't have time to waste. Needs must. SLAVA UKRAINE!
Good gift from Germany. Glory to Ukraine! 🇺🇦👍
Gift???😮
In Swiss banks there must be more large Russian accounts than Ukrainians ...
this what i think
They halped the NAZIS, so why not the Russians. They have no shame!
Nah it's not as simple as that. The right wing/fascist party SVP is against it because they get paid by Moscow and the left wing/libtard parties are against it, because "wAr iS bAD". Just my opinion as a swiss citizen.
@@ib7844 exactly. and they only accepted jews with money in these bad years. poor ones could have gone to hell.
@@HoganTon ein schweizer spricht klartext. hat stil!!
Greetings from Germany! I have worked on the Bundeswehr for 30years on the Gepard! Good Job!
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There is a video circulating on Telegram today, that shows a Gepard shooting down a Russian cruise missile. The Gepard is very precise, and despite the high cadence of the 35mm guns, it only needs few rounds to reliably kill a target. The operators allude to this in the interview.
Drone are really easy targets once acquired by the aimer
It wasn't the first time and won't be last. Cruise missiles are "relatively" slow and therefore easy prey for this sweet little "feline predator". 😅
.............but unfortunately you do not have a link to this fantastic video.......😅🎉😂
@@claus-not-santa Cope more RuSSnazi 😅🎉😂
@@claus-not-santa it's here: th-cam.com/video/mF_Upn9rmjU/w-d-xo.html
There needs to be some sort of punitive action taken against Switzerland. There is no reason whatsoever that they should be withholding defensive ammunition from Ukraine. It's an outrage.
The government of Switzerland has shown its greedy and ugly face. Tons of gold and billions of dollars are more important for them. A pure shame.
They would break international law in doing so.
It’s their country they can do what they want lol get over it.
While i agree with the sentiment
I dont think punishing switzerland would be wise during these volatile times. It could break european unity even more.
Better just let switzerland do its own thing..
@@Juserjus What international laws?Its only national laws in Switzerland that holds it back
Thank you Germany 🇩🇪🤝
Important to note, the gepard is monted on a leopard tank hull... Meaning slowly the Ukrainian as been trained with the leopard.... Don't be surprise in a near future to see leopard tank on the battlefield for Ukraine... As long training is not completed we will not know about it... but at some points don't be surprise to see entire unit of leopard on the battlefield with Ukrainian soldiers using them
Be sure, soon the Leo's will roll.....
Dream on, it's a psychological barrier too far for Scholz. German made tanks kicking the hell out of of T 80s...
LOL, another expert.........😅🎉😂
I whould not be surprised. I whould be flabbergased. It is a private company how donated the PRTLs. Not the german government.
It's Rheinmetall, preparing Leo 2A4 is in progress.
Awesome work Germany, thank you. Slava Ukraine! And Switzerland, wtf?? Seriosuly?
Slava Russland, Ukraine go to hell.......Hitler ist waiting fore you......
Big thanks to Germany! The famous Deutsche Qualitat gets solid confirmation with this hard regime testing in Ukraine
Slawa Ukrajini mein Freund!
@@TheMadSqu geroyam Slava!!! Thanks for support
Germany ❤️ all countries help so much
Without ammo it's like an expensive paperweight. Let's get these guys what they need.
In face of the utterly evil and state terrorism, you are no longer neutral when you stay "neutral". The Swiss may just pray never to get attacked, savy as they are, being such a small country they'd be pretty hard effed if the rest of the world did decide to stay "neutral" then. Shame on the Swiss government. Hope we find a quick solution to the ammo issue. Glad the Gepards are such a help. All the love and support to Ukraine from Germany. Slava Ukraini🌻🇺🇦
Having a war production is not neutral. Making dark money from dark money is not neutral. Being 'swiss neutral' is just an excuse to be smug in their evil. Swiss neutral should be a new meme.
Pootin's daughter and family are hiding out in Switzzerland. pootin probably hinds his gold and wealth there too. Those cheap swizz are in it for the money and nothing else.
Staying “neutral” is more about the Swiss laundering Russian money and getting rich by hiding fortunes of the worlds most evil individuals, be they Russians, Saudis, Americans, S. Americans, etc. Worshiping false profits is worse than worshiping false prophets.
I'd say that switzerland won't be invaded by nobody. At least not in the near future. Why? Because too many influential people of too many contries have some - uh - unregistered goods stored in the vaults there which are not meant for the grunts which would end liberating the banks.
@@spudpud-T67 u just jealous that we have peace since 1848.
Thank-You Germany and Superior Warriors. Impressive all the way around. Very disappointed in Switzerland. Europe has excellent leaders. Thought you would be a part in democracy and peace. Have always had respect.
If germany would have wanted the just could have sent the ammo, what could switzerland do about it? They just wanted someone to blame for their slowness.
Shame on Switzerland!
thats also why Poland is not buying weapons in Germany.
Exactly, I’m buying no more Patek Philippe! I’ll now just buy g shock!
@Very Stable Genius Very good - my opionon. No more Holidays in this Sh*thole full of mountains
@@michastankiewicz9966 Poland is a supporter of Ukraine, but also has an undemocratic ruling party (PIS) with close ties to Hungary, which is basically pro-Putin.
@@lockervomhocker9795 Cool?
Don't. Their national policy of neutrality will survive your cheap vacation there.
According to "Wirtschaftswoche", Rheinmetall has recently bought Spanish ammo manufactorer Expal Systems S.A. Might take some time, but I'm sure they can provide ammo 4 the Gepard.
Hab es auch im Handelsblatt gelesen. Ist wohl eines der größten Werke Europas und voll automatisiert, Umrüstung für 35mm und 155mm soll wohl im Januar beginnen. Frage ist wie zuverlässig das ist. Das Werk soll angeblich in einem Quartal mehr schaffen als alles Rheinmetall Werke zusammen in einem Jahr. 1,2 Milliarden haben die dafür locker gemacht.
@@janreid6217 Munitionsbevorratung wird strategisches Thema. Da hat Europa IMO seine Hausaufgaben nicht gemacht. So gesehen weiser Zug seitens Rheinmetall...
@@mitanni0 denke auch, eine sichere Versorgung durch eine deutsche Firma macht auch Systeme wie Mantis bzw Skyranger für die BW sinniger.
Thank you Germany for the military support
I wish there were more Gepards left in storage. After these additional 7 they're all gone. Some ~40 were left in somewhat ok condition, and with those additional 7 Ukraine has 37 from Germany.
Too bad we sold almost all of them a number of years ago.
Maybe NATO should look into buying some of them back just for Ukraine.
Offer the states using them good money or brand new NATO gear in exchange. This should make them agree to give their Gepards away.
We have also some 30 of those in Romania, but we will go out of short-range anti-aircraft capabilities if we give them to Ukrainians. Will be NATO defended after such donations? I don't think so. So, this is a big problem. So, if Germany can save more from scraping and revive them this is a better way to do things.
@@petrumoldovan2598 that were the last ones remaining. germany has either sold or scrapped all other vehicles since 2010. there are no more than those that got delivered to ukraine
@@zhufortheimpaler4041 Not entirely. I saw a picture on twitter (so take it with a grain of salt) of a storage site in germany where old tanks a stored before being dismantled. There were quiet a number of Gepards left. But no idea when the picture was taken nor what conditions those systems are in.
Netherlands should have a bunch in storage (90ish i believe) although they use a different radar.
@@mortmortannon6640 it might be the case that these also got scrapped.
Für euch Ukraine viel Glück👈❤🇺🇦🇩🇪❤👈
this thing is so perfect against the drones..
Love your stuff RFE!!! Slava Ukraini!
Be nice to see one in operation.
First video of gepard in combat just dropped. It's all over twitter
I haven't seen it yet, but heard there was a video of one shooting down a cruise missile. And you know for every intercept that gets on video, there are a lot more that don't. Hoping it is true.
Wenn die russische Rakete eingeschlagen hat, kannst du die Operation am offenen Herzen am Gepard
nice sehen......
Finland has been using the Marksman system with the same twin Oerlikons for a long time. I watched it live-fire in excercises once, and that gave the true meaning for "thunder of guns". It made the ground vibrate so hard I felt my feet were not touching it. A truly impressive system, and anything but obsolete. Nothing secures the skies above battle formations better than twin oerlikons.
Well done Germany, hope keep Ukraine back up.
It's pretty deadly to see these old SPAAG back in use and to be doing as important a job as they are doing is impressive
When they only need 3 rounds to down a target, you know that these guys are real deal.
I just love the way the gepard looks
Perfect time to release this just as we saw footage of a Gepard successfully destroying a Russian cruise missile today
Schöner Kater, feiner Kater. Haltet unseren ehemaligen Kater stets in Ehren. Auf daß er immer genug Beute vom Himmel holt. Denn unser Kater hat ordentlich Hunger.👍👏💪
So what Germany sent has been validated, from Iris-T , Phz 2000 and now the almost scrapped Gepard (yes the bundeswher was about to retire them, guess they are now back in NEED )
Yeah seems German weapons still live up to the hype :P unlike some Russians equipment, way too much hype , and no performance.
Didn't surprise me, either case.
Iris-T has been reported to have a hit rate of 100%. Thats absolutely insane for any weapon system :D
Bundeswehr actually retired the Gepard ten years ago.
Its all about money and contracts, for all those who wondering or bit**ing around.
Diehl defence also provided Ukraine with MARS 2 missiles that create a carpet of anti tank mines in the targeted area. Those apparently worked out great for the Ukrainians too.
Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦 Greetings from Germany
Switzerland, on thw rong side of history again.
No, switzerland is on the money side of history
I'm not Swiss but I live in Switzerland. They have very strict arms export laws. ANY country in war is banned. Please note, that this ban is quite unpopular among the Swiss people, but Switzerland is not a banana republic., they will abbide to the rule of law., no.matter how unpopular a specific case may be. So Don't be too harsh., real life constraints are more complicated than we all may wish.
Dont be so simple minded. The Swiss are missing some hard arms businees here. There is much more at stake for their industry than some gun rounds.
Yep
Still worshiping their hoards of NAZI gold I bet.
It's about time! I won't waste time asking why they didn't do it sooner, I'm just glad they did it at all! This is exactly what's been needed, computer operated Hardware to Target those damn drones! I hope you get them all boys, you're doing great work!
Thank you, Germany!
Thanks RFE for the constant and accurate reports from the field 👍
Switzerland, banning ammunition exports for ukraine troops is not neutral...it supports russia!
How is that not picking the side of the Ukrainians and therefore non-neutral?
We don't sell stuff to the Orks either. If you're neutral either sell stuff to both or none.
@@etuanno but you keep russian oligarch money in your banks. Same thing was in WW2 you were suppose to be neutral but you kept nazi gold in your vaults. Gold that was taken from jews' teeths that went to gas chamber. Shame on you.
@@JackLondonen Shame on you for accusing us of concealing oligarch money. We siezed it and have the same sanctions as the EU.
The WW2 stuff was sad but what can you do when your country is completely surrounded by the Axis powers and you NEED to import food because otherwise your population starves?!?
If you make business with the bad people, they leave you alone because you're worth more when the factories aren't burned to the ground.
@@etuanno funny that considering all the oligarch money in your banks, just like with the nazis the swiss will feign neutrality for as long as possible so you can keep that money once the war is over.
Morally bankrupt cowards.
Good luck to all of you Gepard Crew´s.
May our cat help you defedending youre country and youre lives.
Slava Ukraine
Greatings and best wishes from Germany
Well done Germany. You came through!!!
Ein letzter Versuch sich wichtig zu machen, welche Wunderwaffen hat man noch im Fuehrerbunker versteckt? Wann wird der Volkssturm aus den Pflegeheimen geschickt, mit Karabiner , und Gasmaske am Fahrradlenker und Volker Lechtenbrink (die Bruecke..) am Maschinengewehr....? Wiederholt sich die Geschichte doch?
@@sigridqwq5198 Sigrid, what are you saying?
From Germany with love...
Slava Ukraine
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I am glad to see the gepards being used for a very important task. First it looked like a kind of alibi help, but they obviously are useful. Hope my country delivers more to repell the russian army. Freedom for Ukraine 🇺🇦.
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Now thats some nice equipment! Wish there was more in Ukraines hands! Go from Canada!
Heard that the remaining stocks of Gepard tanks are now being delivered to Ukraine. Hopefully the ammunition supply from Spain will work out.
@@tosa2522 Where you have heard like this?😮 In local pub??😅
@@claus-not-santaSarah Putinknecht said that.
@@tosa2522 Who is „Sarah Putinknecht“?? 🤔😮
@@claus-not-santa No problem, just ask your boss. Vladimir Vladimirovic probably knows her. Just pick up the receiver and call him.
Thank you Germany, love and respect from Canada, keep the support flowing to our brave friends in Ukraine!
Oerlikon is the Swiss company that owns the patent on the ammunition. Oerlikon is owned by Rheinmetall. The ammunition design/type for the Gepard is produced in Switzerland, and is subject to Swiss arms export agreements. However, many other countries use Oerlikon 35mm AA guns, and produce ammunition under license. Rheinmetall had no need for another factory until the Swiss government decided to enforce the transfer ban. It seems the other licensees can be allowed to produce ammunition for the Gepard, but few have been willing to make the required investments, and none have been willing to invest in expanded production. The fact that Rheinmetall just bought a factory in Spain for this purpose could be one reason- why invest in new capacity when the patent owner can just do it themselves. No point competing with Rheinmetall using a license from Rheinmetall, so just use the license for its original intent- to insure supply for domestic defense.
What the hell is wrong with Switzerland???!!!!!
Left political parties and anti-army groups in Switzerland imposed some 50 years ago laws on restricting weapon exports - including restrictions to customers abroad for reexporting.
When Germany bought 35mm ammunition from the Swiss manufacturer, they had to sign an agreement on not re-exporting to third parties. It's unacceptable that Swiss federal government is not lifting the ban (despite being a legal problem) and not understandable why Germany is not simply overruling that restriction (Switzerland has no means imposing it). The former manufacturer Oerlikon-Bührle group weapons division belongs now to German Rheinmetall company - they should close the manufacturing facility in Switzerland, move the production to Germany or an other Nato country.
Olichargs money in their banks.
I am frankly disgusted with the Swiss. The EU should simply nationalise the ammunition design and authorise its production without any Swiss involvement. If they wish to sue I am happy to be on the jury to decide Switzerland's compensation for copyright theft.
I didn't realise you could be neutral about fascist invasions - but I suppose they were last time too. I bet they have billions and billions of stolen russian money that they haven't impounded either....swiss franc.... the currency of corruption and they know it.
I do believe that Switzerland has not done itself any favors with this decision for future arms cooperations.
But 1. Switzerland is not in the eu and 2. I don’t think any country in the eu has jury trials
But I fully agree with you otherwise haha
@@Thatsme849 ‚Tis guy Davison must be either from US or the isolated island in Northern Sea!! 😅🎉😂
Well it would serves them right since they made ton of money on avoiding patents laws in the past
anti drone weapons seem to be very important for current and future wars
I have a lot of respect for the Ukranians adapting to Putins terror that fast and for not giving in. I am happy that German technology makes a difference in Ukraine, but I whish we also would send combat tanks. I realy hope, this will change as soon as possible. Slava Ukraini!