You can surely switch the Ammo-type from inside! The switch shown was only used for preloading the feed section after filling the amunition stores. For changing the ammunitions in combat situation theres a simple switch inside the turret on the gunner side. But the first round after switching still was the pre-type. (a former Gepard Commander from the 80/90s). Mad Machine for sure!
I was a commander on Gepard B2L and 1A2 in the 90s and 2000s. The 1A2 was upgraded from an analog to a digital computer, 2x 22MHz. Worked like a charm.🙂 B2L was already a great tool with additional laser distance measurements on the front tracking radar from the shown variant. And the 1A2 topped that easily.
Some people think that conventional AA guns are obsolete but due to the ubiquitous use of suicide drones and other drone types in the Russo-Ukrainian War, conventional AA still has a place on the battlefield
@@kaipirinha8871 The Gepard was also build against aircrafts. But the bigger ammo give you a large range advantage and the gepard is very accurate. I saw a documentation of the usage in ukraine. They used mostly 6 bullets for a shahid to be on the safe side. But the drones were sometimes so high that you were not able to see them with your eyes only from the ground. I don't think 0.50 ammunition would be as advantageous.
8:18. On the Dutch PRTL you can switch from anti air to armor from inside the turret. Maybe nice to say something about the ‘things’ at the end of the guns. Those are V-zero mesurement pickups. Two coils separated at a specific distance. So the computer will calculate the exit speed of the projectile and with this it will calculate where to aim to hit the airplane. (Former PRTL commander ‘92/92) If you wanna know more let me know.
I had a small model of a Gepard as a child and I've always wondered about those. I'd deduced they measured projectile speed for computing lead and elevation, but I still don't understand why it's so critical to measure EACH projectile's speed - couldn't the aiming computer be pre-programmed with the load data for each standard type of shell? Click a switch? That's how a tank gunner switches aiming points from AP to HE, for example, and they don't need a muzzle device that measures each round's velocity.
@@harveywallbanger3123 remember… the analog computer is from the 60’s. And each round has a deviation. So it takes an avarage. 1% off on 3,5km is stil a big miss when it comes to a fast flying aircraft.
@@baukemiedema2420 1985: the majority of the Bundeswehr B2 versions were retrofitted with a laser range finder. 1996 - 2000: Installation of improved digital computers for the fire control system and connection to the army air defense reconnaissance and combat management system (HFlaAFüSys) with the installation of improved data radios of the type SEM 93.
Apparently the guy in the video is wrong. It was possible to switch ammo type while inside of the vehicle. There is a comment here, written by a Gepard commander, a German guy.
Nice one! My dad used to be a radar engineer on the Dutch PRTL and later he worked with the simulator. We used to take my friends to the simulator for my 7th or 8th birthday so there were a couple of kids that could operate a PRTL turret quite well 😂
The Gepard puts down anything within 4 kms radius. Infantry, drones, helicopters, trucks, light-armored vehicles and so on. Scary and amazing. Another german marvel. ♥️
In 1981 I was a Leopard 1 driver trained as a gunner on the Dutch PRTL system. The old analog version of the later digital uptated Cheetah version. The same is true for the Gepard. Even in our early version we didn't have to leave the turret to switch to anti armour HEAT rounds. The switch you show is for the loading which is done manualy either the one or the other. Nice video. I didn't know/ remember or ever saw the difference in armor thickness between my battle tank and AA tank. Our tactick we for engaging groundtargets (when things thus had gone wrong) was fire single shot once the two aa rounds followed by two at rounds at 1500 m and then if I rember correctly at 500m. We had no laser range finder. A mount is fitted on the aquisition radar. A doppler radar can't detect targets that are too slow. Then we'd pop smoke and haul ass.
There where if I'm not mistaken 95 PRTL 9×9 batteries 14 reserve and training deliverd for 9 brigades of the Dutch 1st Corps. As a conscript after two months training in Amersfoort I went for two months to Ede Wageningen the AA training. During my ten month operational with 43 Brigade Havelte because there was one man short I could do on the job training as an AA gunner. The PRTL / GEPARD is absolutely not suited to take on any armour other than shoot and scoot. The 35mm Heat could maybe kill a BMP but not a T72. Just hitting them would hopefully get them off balance to get away behind a smoke screen. The armour of the high turret is much too thin. As is I know now or can't remember of the hull. Ergo light armoured vehicles are a threat.
As a german, thank you for this. I am starting to realise, thru the course of this war, and the usefulness and the international feedback on the gepard, that maybe weapons are sometimes (also) emotional design products, and its not just about the pure effectiveness, but also about the symbolism, messaging and signaling, that can be culturally attached to an object, similarly to the A-10 Warthog for the US.
It’s a great design and the creators who envisioned it should be proud of their achievement. The video of one shooting down a drone using just 8 or 9 rounds of ammunition was stunning.
@@edwardhewer8530 thank you and yes indeed. And I think it is healthy and important to detach this from any mythical 'german engineering'. In case of the gepard there seem to have been some inspired engineers back then and this can happen every now and then everywhere around the world and its a nice thing when it happens and it stands out and gets noticed, later, with some time and distance, that something exceptional has been designed.
As an American we are very attached to these weapon's symbolism such as the B-52, aircraft carriers, or the Abrams. Even the B-17, Sherman Tank, and P-51. The M-16 and Huey for Vietnam. We are (good or bad) pretty good at it.
@@badlt5897 yes thank you for this. Indeed. The gepard now seems to be becoming something similar for Ukraine and Germany to what the US has already experienced with those pieces of equipment you mention. I guess its just a new experience for Germany, or Germans, since no piece of equipment has had such a symbolic value since WWII.
Great video .When I was a kid, I was taken to the Farnborough air show, back in the 70's and had the chance to look inside the Gepard they had on display,all the computer/radar electrical stuff was covered up.The crew let me and my mates hold one of the dummy rounds, great fun for a group of twelve year old kids.
As a former military helicopter pilot that thing scares the crap out of me, ha. Thank goodness it was on our side. The only worse would be the formidable 2S6M1 Tunguska.
😂😂 As a former Gepard Commander we were scared of the helicopters. We would say cobra alert over the radios to warn other tanks about incoming helicopters. And helicopters had always number one priority for us to fight against. Next priority are incoming planes and least priority were distancing planes
Gepard is pretty popular as home defence weapon system in Poland. It's easy to get a license for it and the surplus Gepards are not expensive. They are more popular in countryside because of lower chance of collateral damage due to lower density of habitation. Highly recommended.
@@MostlyPennyCat no. Unfortunately, if either your Gepard or Wiesel has demonstrated aggressive behaviour against a local resident, like an unicorn or a bigfoot, you need to put yours down.
Am Happy to say that the wife and I are coming up for armorfest 23 in August, and to umm sample the local gin produce. I believe its a native species up there?
One of my buddies was a driver for these, he told me you could operate them in a tuxedo and still come out clean and ready for a party, very nice machines
Vus vidéo sur you tube , debut 1981 je me trouvais en république fédérale d'Allemagne , dans un des deux bataillons de gépart , je fesais partie des forces Belges en Allemagne . Durant 5ans j'ai côtoyé et utiliser ce char quotidiennement , je le connais par coeur , j'étais pointeur tireur , (à droite dans la tourelle vu de l'avant ) De cette époque, il me reste des souvenirs inoubliables et un album photos.
All weapons of war can be scary, but there's something particularly intimidating and frightening about the look of the Flakpanzer Gepard, I'm sure even more so when it's in operating in anger! Great video as always! I was lucky enough to spend an entire day at the AAAM recently and absolutely loved every minute of it!
Jason your knoweledge of the collection is so impressive as well being comprehensive concise and easy to understand, as i live in the UK and very familar with Bovington as a source of data, but i am a bigger fan of The AUS Armour Museum vidoes as a regular consumer of the very impressive restoration projects and although Bovington does produce video,s of tank restortion, i love the level of detail that "work shop wenedesday " covers giving much i feel i,m standing along side your highly skilled staff who have gained my admoration of thier huge knowledge and skills to match, and as former welder and fabricator i feel so fully emraced in all aspects of the of restoration detail, i think no one beats your video,s in the way you involve the viewer and your depth of knowledge backing up the collection with your hands on tank expierence back ground, practical expierence, ,comes shinning through all your video,s. i have nothing but respect for a guy who,s his knows his business like you do and rightfully so that you speak with authority about the collection. However, sadly i dont get that same feeling from Bovington where the manager has said on record that he only approves of the British collection, which seems like he,s more interested in polotics than tanks.
Modern long range radar systems have got problems detecting drones mostly made of carbon-fibre plasic not metal. But a Gepard can even detect a bird and can shoot it down....
The number on the front and back is not necessarily "just" a serial number, those are the vehicles License plates. Since all roadgoing vehicles need license plates in Germany, that includes Tanks, if they leave the base they need a license plate. On a Normal German Licenseplate you would have the Blue European marking with a D for "Deutschland". On this Military license plate you have the german flag instead. After that usually comes a one to three letter marking wich identifies the town were the registerd owner has his primary residence. The Bundeswehr uses "Y" as an identifier since Germany has no town that starts with "Y" and was the last free letter available. After that civilian license plates have a mix of one or two letters with one to three numbers. Assigned by the local DMV On the Bundeswehr licenseplates the 6 numbers can be a serial number but they dont have to be they are freely assigned by the "Zentrum für Kraftfahrwesen der Bundeswehr" basically the DMV of the Bundeswehr. Also vehicles that belong to Nato members like the USA get an "X" followed by 4 numbers.
According to a brochure from Oerlikon-Contraves, the Gepard's turret with its 35-mm Oerlikon twin-barreled autocannons can also be fitted onto other AFV chassis such as the M109, M48, M60, Panzer 68, and Vickers MBT.
But it would be senseless to use Oerlikon guns in future. Germany had problems to deliver the ammunition because Oerlikon is a Swiss concern. To deliver ammunition Germany had to buy it from all over the world. Switzerland gave Oerlikon no clearance to deliver ammunition to Germany to deliver it to Ukraine. Rheinmetall produces the ammunition now in Germany.
Well, I never had a reason before to visit Cairns. I DO NOW! Fark me, I've visited Bovington in UK, was one of the best days of my European trip. Now I need to get myself to the Aussie Tank Museum.
Cairns is actually a great spot. Absolutely beautiful vibe of tropics, beaches and mountains, great restaurants and cheap but quality resorts and hotels, you'll love it!
You didn't mention the chronographs on the ends of the barrel to measure projectile velocity. That is a very important feature that made those Swiss guns so good. .
When I was in the army I was repairing the electronics of this beast. At that time it didn't have digital computers. It was all analog, but still they had an excellent precision. Remember at those times the Commodore 64 or Apple II were the high end home computers you could buy. The turret weights 15 metric tons. Don't remember how fast it could spin, but it was insane how fast it was and how fast it could stop the turret! It felt like hitting a wall.
Lemmy from Motorhead collected German WW2 memorabilia and he even had a Stug III - when asked why he collected "Nazi" militaria he said "I can't help it that the bad guys had the coolest stuff."
That's what happens when the dictator is an artist. I'm not even kidding, there are documented instances where the Austrian painter guy rejected good weapons and vehicles because they were "ugly", and liked some less performing equipment because they "looked cool". When they built the highways, the moustache guy insisted that they follow the flow of the landscape, to look nicer, and every single tree they had to remove was numbered, and had to be replaced. Aesthetics were very important in the Third Reich also for propaganda reasons.
Correct, 6 batteries in each of the 12 regiments (one regiment in each division), in the 1990s the Gepard has a laser range finder mounted on the tracking radar. (a former Gepard gunner)
I meant to add to my recent comment “Great Channel Guys”, it’s a favourite along with the wonderful Bovington Tank Museum material, I think they missed a trick by not having a restoration offshoot channel as the Aussie resto stuff is wonderful. Thanks to you blokes from an old fart in the Mother Country!
I used to be a conscripted in the german army. I served in the 3./111 Heeresflugabwehr. Cause I was only a Driver (2t Truck) I helped a lot to load the 35-mm-Maschinenkanonen. The Gepards tanks are real beasts. It was a great mistake from germany 2012, to stop using Gepards. Maybee the war in the Ukraine will change the opinion and bring them back to business.
Gepards are technologically outdated, the replacement will be MANTIS - bolted on top of a boxer chassis. Much cheaper and much more effective due to programmable ammunition. That alongside the wiesel offers a much more versatile anti air protection
@@hiya2793 no, they are not outdated. They are still fine against helicopters, drones amd cruise missiles. And also it is a self propelled platform that is mobile and can switch positions in no time (a Mantis is stationary)
@@frostedbutts4340 yes! THAT will be MUCH better than a Gepard. What I wonder is, if it would be possible to mount a Mantis on a flying platform. Just imagine how much more area you could protect with one of these things if you just have a prewarning time of like 5 minutes. You would only need one unit per city instead of one unit per object
@@Tobias042 mantis also comes In a deployable container you can drop off in a camp or something up to 6 of them combined with a radar container and a control container.
@@BERZERKERSV4 what the hell are you talking? it takes max. 10 standard rounds each 50$ to down an at least 10k$ drone is far more realistic then your estimation
Guess what: six of these can link up and sweep the sky. You can also destroy ground targets in bursts. Lots to options with this. Plus it’s a fast tank.
During the Cold War there were 11 anti-aircraft regiments for divisions 1 to 8 and 10 to 12 (army structure 3, 4, 4a). After the reunification of Germany, the anti-aircraft regiments of the 13th and 14th divisions were added, but of course the number of Gepard anti-aircraft tanks did not increase as a result.
Always loved the Leopard 1 and other versions of it such as this and the ARV version. As a younger tank soldier based in Germany (at Bergen-Hohne) we used to hear columns of these thundering down the road outside the garrison at twice the speed of our Chieftains. The Germans and the Dutch were based in the same garrison and we all got along very well, particularly the Dutch who all spoke English and had a similar sense of humour. Though we Brits thought they looked like ''Fred Karno's Army'' as most of them had long hair and wore hair nets at work. 🙂 MTU did a much better job of the multi-fuel, supercharged V10 in the Leo 1's, than our Leyland built L60's.
On the front there is the sign of the unit 3/11, third companie, air defence regiment eleven. In this unit I had driving school lessons for Army motorcycles in 1980. Strange to see it now again.
I worked on the older American Vulcan AA system. We would go twice a year to Northern Germany for aerial gunnery. Normally would see the germans working their Gepards and sometimes firing. Still have a German gepard Crest, "person on one knee with bow a arrow pointing to the sky" For fast moving target sleeves were pulled by a Fiat G91 and slow moving target, same sleeve pulled by a OV10 bronco. Two years later the G91 and bronco were replaced with a Learjet. 88-90 before we deployed to first gulf war. Air Force shot all the aircraft down so only ground equipment was shot at by Vulcan 20mm Gatling guns.
Hello Billy yes I know the coat of arms. I was there in the north with the Bundeswehr in 1982-83. Some of our soldiers were allowed to shoot in the US military. Many were exchange students in the United States when they were young and spoke English. It was really exciting to see the US military shooting. In the unit I was in we had 20mm guns and in the barracks was The Cheetah Regiment. The place where the shooting took place on the Baltic Sea was Putlos and Todendorf. Maybe we met then ;-)
Hi Billy, the crest you are talking about is the crest of the Anti-Aircraft-School of the German Army where all officers and sergeants of the Gepard crews where trained. The School was located in Rendburg and I guess you trained firing at Todendorf. Greetings from Germany.
Great. The Tank you shows is from the 3.FlaRgt11 in Achim Germany. In 1987 i was there in the 7.FlaRgt 11. 12 years in the Gepard. Great for low flight Jets ore drones. Aware of the weather. If the air pressure, Wind Direktion and Temperatur ist not correct, the Hit quality goes down to Zero.
Because the Empire in Star Wars was heavily based on Nazi Germany, and many of the infantry weapons are literally WW2 guns with random bits and pieces attached.
Do the Radar's still rotate on the Gepard? I would assume that the interior equipment would have been removed, but the external equipment looks to be intact.
I think the Gepard is very dangerous tank from Germany - a real killer and game changer in a war and this tank will change the future in a new dimension.
Als Kind hatte ich in den 90er einmal das Vergnügen, an einem Tag der offenen Tür von der Bundeswehr, dieses Coole Teil von innen bedienen zu dürfen. Also Turm drehen und Waffe schwenken. Der Turm kann sich enorm schnell drehen, was man aber nicht stark spürt da man genau auf dem Drehpunkt sitzt. Ich erinnere mich auch noch genau das ich die Waffe durch das Zielfernrohr manuell auf die Stirn eines anderen Besuchers ausgerichtet hatte😄.... Cool war auch das das Radar an war und sich der Gepard auf ein Verkehrsflugzeug eingeloggt hatte. Wie krass muss das führ die Besatzungen gewesen sein in echt auf Bodenziele zu feuern... die 35mm sind echt beeindruckend!
The Dutch, more expensive, version (PRTL) has a specific turret to accomodate the Dutch radars and firecontrol system developed by "Hollandse Signaal Apparaten". All have been sold of years ago. And Hollandse Signaal Apparaten is now part of Thales.
Would just think we left the Americans and Brits whit some of our world war stocks. While i guess those cold war vehicles we give to anybody who asks as we don´t use them anymore so should probably be not to rare.
So if the Ukrainians keep telling us this is the best thing since sliced bread, why did we retire them in 2012 in the first place? And should we maybe start building new ones, now that we just have set up a new production facility for the ammo, or at least bring the remaining ones back into the Bundeswehr? Just wondering. (former Bundeswehr soldier, mid 1980s) A very well presented video. The host totally knows what he is talking about and does so in a way that is at the same time entertaining and easy to understand. My favourite expression: "The buisness end of the vehicle" Greetings from Germany!
I'd say it was a victim of German politics in slashing military spending too far. Some form of drone defense is a must have now. A better option would be something like upgrades for the Puma IFV.. it already has airburst shells and with tracking improvements can attack low flying helicopters / drones.
Because they had to cut costs. And in their wisdom they decided that Taliban, pirates and random insurgents don't use SU-25 or Mi-24. Heck, even some NATO forces came up with the great idea to abandon all their MBT-forces since you "only need light infantry"
The Bundeswehr retired the Gepard for BUDGET reasons in 2012 ...Back in those happy days Russia had not invaded yet Crimea, let alone all of Ukraine. Since 2022 the German Ministry of Defense has DOUBLED its budget...!
Experience has shown that you cannot stall the Leopard 1's engine, so there is an emergency shutdown. The Leopard 1 doesn't swim like an M113, but it can, among other things, drive under water.
If I was ADF I would have got them for Airbase and important Infrastructure defence. I remember Dinky Toys made them with missile spring , back in the 70's
Gepards may have been rendered obsolete at the end of the last century because of aircraft developments like stealth but the low and slow drones have given the Gepard a new lease of life. This shows that the Gepard is not obsolete but just ahead of its time. If they did not already exist, current warfare would have necessitated their creation.
Positioned carefully along likely air avenues of approach, integrated with infantry/armor for protection, armed with HEI, and linked in with a good aerial early warning system they can be effective v enemy air. Like the SP Vulcan, they have the added bonus of being devastating v buildings, lighter armored vehicles, and dismounted personnel. Not sure of maintenance issues (including gun and turret) but that’s another story.
Amazingly well done! Shame that we Germans are without any real short range Anti Air support at the moment. Hopefully we will get the Skyranger 35 in the near future.
@@hiya2793 Yes, and thats why we need it as a mobile version. idc if its the truck mounted or the one on the Boxer Platform. We need mobile Airdefense with ahead ammo and low cost which this is.
@@Thor_Asgard_ The Gepard was ridiculously expensive because it was a 1-fits-all solution that incorporated everything in 1 vehicle. From recon over lock over crew protection over firing, both anti air and anti ground- It's completely overbuilt and half the features it has are not needed because it won't be standing all by itself on a random field. Right now there's the wiesel with anti air rockets which works fine - the Skyranger will be world class again.
@@hiya2793 It was, but it was still cheaper then all that different shinannigans we now need. Just think about how expensive drone defense will be with rockets. Lasers and Ammo is the way to go in short range defense. And i hope we are going for world class again, as we can see, that we Germans are unable to make cheap shit in numbers.
Very intimidating looking vehicle. It looks like something that should belong In a terminator movie. Does the turret still rotate? I understand that the turret can rotate very fast because it needs to track a fast moving aircraft
The Gepard always makes me contemplate the Sgt. York. On paper it should have been even a little better than the Gepard having newer electronics, radar and a more common gun. It was at least on the superior armored M48 hull. When that didn't work out, I can only imagine politics and pride kept them from just buying Gepard turrets to put on the M48 hull. The turret ring could easily accommodate that turret.
I always irritated by people complaining or blaming politics that a certain weapon system didn't make it. I for one prefer politicians that don't greenlight any project but ask themselves: "Do the people really need this?"
@@malteschaper3782 the US has desperately needed a spaag for decades. The Vulcan based 20mm were outdated and not up to the requirements of even the 1970's . The Gepard was a successful piece of equipment and would hardly be a pork barrel acquisition. As I surmised, parochial politics far more likely impeded the fulfillment of the equipment need.
Amazing the Gepard is still relevant and in use in todays Ukrainian conflict shooting down drones that weren’t even invented when this system was designed and produced. 😊 PS - Hope the Swiss reconsider and exports additional ammunition to Ukraine.
Please don't get into politics here especially when you don't seem to understand who is on the right side of history. Suggest educating yourself and go back as far as 1991 (Ukraine Independence) when Nazis re-surfaced and started making themselves known once again.
@@Slaktrax yeah there are neonazis in Ukraine. Same as with the UK. You realise that your (the british) Neo-Nazi Culture of the 1970´s and 80´s was the style template for basicly all western neo-nazi cultures till the early 2000´s? (Skinheads). You realise that the largest and most dangerous neo-nazi terror network of the western world originated in the UK? (Combat 18) The UK has one of the largest established right wing extremist/neo-nazi political representations in western europe. In comparison, during the last elections in Ukraine, the right wing extremist party, to wich Azov is associated, got a single seat and that only due to something called "overhang mandate", wich means, the party got a local sucess (for example winning 60% in a constituency). Ukraines Parliament has an entry threshhold, so that micro partys wont enter. This party did not make it over the threshhold and only got representation due to the overhang mandate. How does the UK compare to that? you got right wing extremists in your fricking parliaments for decades and not in small numbers. If my county was such an influential cornerstone of western right wing extremism, down to hosting the largest and most relevant neo nazi terror organisation of the western world (and still not prohibiting them) i would be very quiet.
You can surely switch the Ammo-type from inside! The switch shown was only used for preloading the feed section after filling the amunition stores. For changing the ammunitions in combat situation theres a simple switch inside the turret on the gunner side. But the first round after switching still was the pre-type.
(a former Gepard Commander from the 80/90s). Mad Machine for sure!
Yes, that's what i was thinking, it would have been a pretty dum design to leave the ammo switch outside of the tank.
Vielen Dank für die Richtigstellung! Many thanks for the correction. Greetings to our Australian friends from Germany!
Thanks for the information. I couldn't believe what i was hearing in the video.
I was a commander on Gepard B2L and 1A2 in the 90s and 2000s. The 1A2 was upgraded from an analog to a digital computer, 2x 22MHz. Worked like a charm.🙂 B2L was already a great tool with additional laser distance measurements on the front tracking radar from the shown variant. And the 1A2 topped that easily.
i can confirm this (a former Gepard weapons mechanic from the late 1990's)
Some people think that conventional AA guns are obsolete but due to the ubiquitous use of suicide drones and other drone types in the Russo-Ukrainian War, conventional AA still has a place on the battlefield
35 mm is a bit excessive for drones. 0.50 should do the job.
@@kaipirinha8871 With 12.7mm rounds you need to hit the target. With bigger rounds you have proximity fuses.
The 35 mm burst/shrapnel Ammunition is pretty perfect for suicide drones and low flying cruises missles!
Not to mention that this tank can still clean a building of enemy infantry, destroy IFVs or even disable a MBT.
@@kaipirinha8871 The Gepard was also build against aircrafts. But the bigger ammo give you a large range advantage and the gepard is very accurate. I saw a documentation of the usage in ukraine. They used mostly 6 bullets for a shahid to be on the safe side. But the drones were sometimes so high that you were not able to see them with your eyes only from the ground. I don't think 0.50 ammunition would be as advantageous.
8:18. On the Dutch PRTL you can switch from anti air to armor from inside the turret.
Maybe nice to say something about the ‘things’ at the end of the guns. Those are V-zero mesurement pickups. Two coils separated at a specific distance. So the computer will calculate the exit speed of the projectile and with this it will calculate where to aim to hit the airplane.
(Former PRTL commander ‘92/92)
If you wanna know more let me know.
I had a small model of a Gepard as a child and I've always wondered about those. I'd deduced they measured projectile speed for computing lead and elevation, but I still don't understand why it's so critical to measure EACH projectile's speed - couldn't the aiming computer be pre-programmed with the load data for each standard type of shell? Click a switch? That's how a tank gunner switches aiming points from AP to HE, for example, and they don't need a muzzle device that measures each round's velocity.
@@harveywallbanger3123 remember… the analog computer is from the 60’s. And each round has a deviation. So it takes an avarage. 1% off on 3,5km is stil a big miss when it comes to a fast flying aircraft.
@@baukemiedema2420 1985: the majority of the Bundeswehr B2 versions were retrofitted with a laser range finder.
1996 - 2000: Installation of improved digital computers for the fire control system and connection to the army air defense reconnaissance and combat management system (HFlaAFüSys) with the installation of improved data radios of the type SEM 93.
@@herosstratos yes. In the Netherlands we changed that also and called the PRTL cheeta from then on.
Apparently the guy in the video is wrong. It was possible to switch ammo type while inside of the vehicle. There is a comment here, written by a Gepard commander, a German guy.
Nice one! My dad used to be a radar engineer on the Dutch PRTL and later he worked with the simulator.
We used to take my friends to the simulator for my 7th or 8th birthday so there were a couple of kids that could operate a PRTL turret quite well 😂
Mate, sounds like you had the best childhood ever! I'm jealous.
The Gepard puts down anything within 4 kms radius. Infantry, drones, helicopters, trucks, light-armored vehicles and so on. Scary and amazing. Another german marvel. ♥️
Volkswagen Golf or Toccata and fugue in d minor by J.S. Bach is a german marvel, not a killing machine like this.
@@markod7662 Good luck stopping an enemy invasion with some organ jingling then mate.
@@markod7662 didnt get the Point eh
Helicopter have 10km range
yes they are burning just as well as the leopard tanks are in Ukraine.
In 1981 I was a Leopard 1 driver trained as a gunner on the Dutch PRTL system.
The old analog version of the later digital uptated Cheetah version. The same is true for the Gepard.
Even in our early version we didn't have to leave the turret to switch to anti armour HEAT rounds.
The switch you show is for the loading which is done manualy either the one or the other.
Nice video. I didn't know/ remember or ever saw the difference in armor thickness between my battle tank and AA tank.
Our tactick we for engaging groundtargets (when things thus had gone wrong) was fire single shot once the two aa rounds followed by two at rounds at 1500 m and then if I rember correctly at 500m.
We had no laser range finder. A mount is fitted on the aquisition radar. A doppler radar can't detect targets that are too slow.
Then we'd pop smoke and haul ass.
Mijn maat was daar altijd super trots op hij zat in Seedorf in rond 1980
Er waren er in 85 veel in Ede west, machtige dingen , die prtls.
Are you saying this can engage armour? How much damage could this do?really appreciate an answer from someone with real experience
There where if I'm not mistaken 95 PRTL 9×9 batteries 14 reserve and training deliverd for 9 brigades of the Dutch 1st Corps.
As a conscript after two months training in Amersfoort I went for two months to Ede Wageningen the AA training.
During my ten month operational with 43 Brigade Havelte because there was one man short I could do on the job training as an AA gunner.
The PRTL / GEPARD is absolutely not suited to take on any armour other than shoot and scoot.
The 35mm Heat could maybe kill a BMP but not a T72. Just hitting them would hopefully get them off balance to get away behind a smoke screen.
The armour of the high turret is much too thin. As is I know now or can't remember of the hull. Ergo light armoured vehicles are a threat.
@@gerhardris thanks for reply and fair play for being willing to sit in one in combat 👌
As a german, thank you for this. I am starting to realise, thru the course of this war, and the usefulness and the international feedback on the gepard, that maybe weapons are sometimes (also) emotional design products, and its not just about the pure effectiveness, but also about the symbolism, messaging and signaling, that can be culturally attached to an object, similarly to the A-10 Warthog for the US.
It’s a great design and the creators who envisioned it should be proud of their achievement. The video of one shooting down a drone using just 8 or 9 rounds of ammunition was stunning.
@@edwardhewer8530 thank you and yes indeed. And I think it is healthy and important to detach this from any mythical 'german engineering'. In case of the gepard there seem to have been some inspired engineers back then and this can happen every now and then everywhere around the world and its a nice thing when it happens and it stands out and gets noticed, later, with some time and distance, that something exceptional has been designed.
As an American we are very attached to these weapon's symbolism such as the B-52, aircraft carriers, or the Abrams. Even the B-17, Sherman Tank, and P-51. The M-16 and Huey for Vietnam. We are (good or bad) pretty good at it.
@@badlt5897 yes thank you for this. Indeed. The gepard now seems to be becoming something similar for Ukraine and Germany to what the US has already experienced with those pieces of equipment you mention. I guess its just a new experience for Germany, or Germans, since no piece of equipment has had such a symbolic value since WWII.
@@Th3SilentObserver Well Germany has the PzH 2000 and the iconic MG42. And we love your cars!!!
I served in the FlaRgt 11, Achim. Great to see one of our tanks on TH-cam 👍🏻
Heeresflugabwehrschule Rendsburg 1989/90
Schönen Gruß! 😁👍
Grüße aus Kassel FlaRgt 4/2 gelernter Fahrer Gepard schön was von Kameraden zu lesen !!
Great video .When I was a kid, I was taken to the Farnborough air show, back in the 70's and had the chance to look inside the Gepard they had on display,all the computer/radar electrical stuff was covered up.The crew let me and my mates hold one of the dummy rounds, great fun for a group of twelve year old kids.
I am amazed by his knowledge , all done with no notes . 👍
Some of it is incorrect though.
As a former military helicopter pilot that thing scares the crap out of me, ha. Thank goodness it was on our side. The only worse would be the formidable 2S6M1 Tunguska.
😂😂 As a former Gepard Commander we were scared of the helicopters. We would say cobra alert over the radios to warn other tanks about incoming helicopters. And helicopters had always number one priority for us to fight against. Next priority are incoming planes and least priority were distancing planes
Gepard is pretty popular as home defence weapon system in Poland. It's easy to get a license for it and the surplus Gepards are not expensive. They are more popular in countryside because of lower chance of collateral damage due to lower density of habitation.
Highly recommended.
Is there a concealed carry option?
@@ReezeGoingSenseless Yes I carry a Wiesel armed with stingers.
@@frostedbutts4340
Do you have to keep it on a leash?
Can you take it hunting?
@@MostlyPennyCat no. Unfortunately, if either your Gepard or Wiesel has demonstrated aggressive behaviour against a local resident, like an unicorn or a bigfoot, you need to put yours down.
@@frostedbutts4340 ah, Ozelot!
I won’t deny the Germans make some beautiful aa vehicles, from the Wirbelwind and Ostwind and then the Gepard. Deadly and stunning.
Thanks a lot. Amazing vehicle. The Brazilian Army received some Gepards years ago.
Congrats from Brazil.
But brazil refuses to help Ukraine
We support Russia !!
My jaw dropped when I saw what you have in the museum. Will be visiting soon. Great video.
You won't be disappointed!
Looks brilliant doesn't it. Putting that on my next trip list.
Including the Soviet 2S7 self propelled gun in the background…
Am Happy to say that the wife and I are coming up for armorfest 23 in August, and to umm sample the local gin produce. I believe its a native species up there?
One of my buddies was a driver for these, he told me you could operate them in a tuxedo and still come out clean and ready for a party, very nice machines
Vus vidéo sur you tube , debut 1981 je me trouvais en république fédérale d'Allemagne , dans un des deux bataillons de gépart , je fesais partie des forces Belges en Allemagne . Durant 5ans j'ai côtoyé et utiliser ce char quotidiennement , je le connais par coeur , j'étais pointeur tireur , (à droite dans la tourelle vu de l'avant )
De cette époque, il me reste des souvenirs inoubliables et un album photos.
All weapons of war can be scary, but there's something particularly intimidating and frightening about the look of the Flakpanzer Gepard, I'm sure even more so when it's in operating in anger! Great video as always! I was lucky enough to spend an entire day at the AAAM recently and absolutely loved every minute of it!
back then, Gepard crews competed with other crews in trying to hit the towing cable of the practice target - the guns are that precise
Loving this new tank channel. It's basically an Aussie 'Tank Museum' channel. Which is a damn good thing, as the Aussies are our friends in Britain🤝💪
Jason your knoweledge of the collection is so impressive as well being comprehensive concise and easy to understand, as i live in the UK and very familar with Bovington as a source of data, but i am a bigger fan of The AUS Armour Museum vidoes as a regular consumer of the very impressive restoration projects and although Bovington does produce video,s of tank restortion, i love the level of detail that "work shop wenedesday " covers giving much i feel i,m standing along side your highly skilled staff who have gained my admoration of thier huge knowledge and skills to match, and as former welder and fabricator i feel so fully emraced in all aspects of the of restoration detail, i think no one beats your video,s in the way you involve the viewer and your depth of knowledge backing up the collection with your hands on tank expierence back ground, practical expierence, ,comes shinning through all your video,s. i have nothing but respect for a guy who,s his knows his business like you do and rightfully so that you speak with authority about the collection. However, sadly i dont get that same feeling from Bovington where the manager has said on record that he only approves of the British collection, which seems like he,s more interested in polotics than tanks.
Modern long range radar systems have got problems detecting drones mostly made of carbon-fibre plasic not metal. But a Gepard can even detect a bird and can shoot it down....
Would not leave much to eat.
The number on the front and back is not necessarily "just" a serial number, those are the vehicles License plates.
Since all roadgoing vehicles need license plates in Germany, that includes Tanks, if they leave the base they need a license plate.
On a Normal German Licenseplate you would have the Blue European marking with a D for "Deutschland".
On this Military license plate you have the german flag instead.
After that usually comes a one to three letter marking wich identifies the town were the registerd owner has his primary residence.
The Bundeswehr uses "Y" as an identifier since Germany has no town that starts with "Y" and was the last free letter available.
After that civilian license plates have a mix of one or two letters with one to three numbers. Assigned by the local DMV
On the Bundeswehr licenseplates the 6 numbers can be a serial number but they dont have to be they are freely assigned by the "Zentrum für Kraftfahrwesen der Bundeswehr" basically the DMV of the Bundeswehr.
Also vehicles that belong to Nato members like the USA get an "X" followed by 4 numbers.
According to a brochure from Oerlikon-Contraves, the Gepard's turret with its 35-mm Oerlikon twin-barreled autocannons can also be fitted onto other AFV chassis such as the M109, M48, M60, Panzer 68, and Vickers MBT.
But it would be senseless to use Oerlikon guns in future.
Germany had problems to deliver the ammunition because Oerlikon is a Swiss concern.
To deliver ammunition Germany had to buy it from all over the world.
Switzerland gave Oerlikon no clearance to deliver ammunition to Germany to deliver it to Ukraine.
Rheinmetall produces the ammunition now in Germany.
Well, I never had a reason before to visit Cairns. I DO NOW! Fark me, I've visited Bovington in UK, was one of the best days of my European trip. Now I need to get myself to the Aussie Tank Museum.
Cairns is actually a great spot. Absolutely beautiful vibe of tropics, beaches and mountains, great restaurants and cheap but quality resorts and hotels, you'll love it!
Ez igen,ez már hasznos kis gép.mozgékony,nagy tűzerővel bíró.rettegjetek drónok! Százszor hasznosabb mint egy sima harc kocsi!
You didn't mention the chronographs on the ends of the barrel to measure projectile velocity. That is a very important feature that made those Swiss guns so good.
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When I was in the army I was repairing the electronics of this beast. At that time it didn't have digital computers. It was all analog, but still they had an excellent precision. Remember at those times the Commodore 64 or Apple II were the high end home computers you could buy. The turret weights 15 metric tons. Don't remember how fast it could spin, but it was insane how fast it was and how fast it could stop the turret! It felt like hitting a wall.
Funny thing is Commodore 64 is still the best PC. Old is gold.
@@MXB2001 nostalgia is helluva drug
Why are germans so good at making extremely sexy armored vehicles? Even in WW2 all the Chad vehicles were German made.
Lemmy from Motorhead collected German WW2 memorabilia and he even had a Stug III - when asked why he collected "Nazi" militaria he said "I can't help it that the bad guys had the coolest stuff."
That's what happens when the dictator is an artist.
I'm not even kidding, there are documented instances where the Austrian painter guy rejected good weapons and vehicles because they were "ugly", and liked some less performing equipment because they "looked cool".
When they built the highways, the moustache guy insisted that they follow the flow of the landscape, to look nicer, and every single tree they had to remove was numbered, and had to be replaced.
Aesthetics were very important in the Third Reich also for propaganda reasons.
There is a good talk about design from "Tiger" here on YT. It starts from minute 7:50. th-cam.com/video/iE22h16Bxnc/w-d-xo.html
Here `s the answer : form follows the function
Correct, 6 batteries in each of the 12 regiments (one regiment in each division), in the 1990s the Gepard has a laser range finder mounted on the tracking radar. (a former Gepard gunner)
I meant to add to my recent comment “Great Channel Guys”, it’s a favourite along with the wonderful Bovington Tank Museum material, I think they missed a trick by not having a restoration offshoot channel as the Aussie resto stuff is wonderful.
Thanks to you blokes from an old fart in the Mother Country!
Bovington sometimes does resto videos I think? Isn't there a series on the Matilda II?
I used to be a conscripted in the german army. I served in the 3./111 Heeresflugabwehr. Cause I was only a Driver (2t Truck) I helped a lot to load the 35-mm-Maschinenkanonen.
The Gepards tanks are real beasts. It was a great mistake from germany 2012, to stop using Gepards. Maybee the war in the Ukraine will change the opinion and bring them back to business.
Gepards are technologically outdated, the replacement will be MANTIS - bolted on top of a boxer chassis.
Much cheaper and much more effective due to programmable ammunition.
That alongside the wiesel offers a much more versatile anti air protection
@@hiya2793 no, they are not outdated. They are still fine against helicopters, drones amd cruise missiles. And also it is a self propelled platform that is mobile and can switch positions in no time (a Mantis is stationary)
@@Tobias042 ..Hence on a Boxer IFV chassis.
Already being prototyped as Skyranger.
@@frostedbutts4340 yes! THAT will be MUCH better than a Gepard.
What I wonder is, if it would be possible to mount a Mantis on a flying platform. Just imagine how much more area you could protect with one of these things if you just have a prewarning time of like 5 minutes. You would only need one unit per city instead of one unit per object
@@Tobias042 mantis also comes In a deployable container you can drop off in a camp or something up to 6 of them combined with a radar container and a control container.
Another Outstanding vehicle review and presentation.
Thank You
The twin Oerlikon GDF 35mm Autocannon is a beast!!!!
The Gepard may be old, but it's still useful, just ask the Ukrainians how they perform in taking down Russian drones.
Depends how you look at it.. 35mm ain’t sheep… $50k worth of ammo to destroy a $1000 drone…
@@BERZERKERSV4 im sure the Ukrainian would like to pay the $500.000 repair cost for whatever that drone hits.
@@BERZERKERSV4 Better than Ukrainian lives.
@@BERZERKERSV4 what the hell are you talking? it takes max. 10 standard rounds each 50$ to down an at least 10k$ drone is far more realistic then your estimation
@@BERZERKERSV4 really …. Is this your answer ??? 😂
That is a nice bit of kit and well explained. Thanks.
Guess what: six of these can link up and sweep the sky. You can also destroy ground targets in bursts. Lots to options with this. Plus it’s a fast tank.
As time goes by, no doubt the Flak Panzer Gepard will become a legend just like a Ford T is regarded today in the car industry.
Please do another video of the inside and tell us if the radars work
During the Cold War there were 11 anti-aircraft regiments for divisions 1 to 8 and 10 to 12 (army structure 3, 4, 4a).
After the reunification of Germany, the anti-aircraft regiments of the 13th and 14th divisions were added, but of course the number of Gepard anti-aircraft tanks did not increase as a result.
Gepard looks out of star wars so cool
The Empire is using them alongside the MG3/42 the Stormtroopers are using^^
Always loved the Leopard 1 and other versions of it such as this and the ARV version. As a younger tank soldier based in Germany (at Bergen-Hohne) we used to hear columns of these thundering down the road outside the garrison at twice the speed of our Chieftains. The Germans and the Dutch were based in the same garrison and we all got along very well, particularly the Dutch who all spoke English and had a similar sense of humour. Though we Brits thought they looked like ''Fred Karno's Army'' as most of them had long hair and wore hair nets at work. 🙂
MTU did a much better job of the multi-fuel, supercharged V10 in the Leo 1's, than our Leyland built L60's.
Yes remember Seedorf
My mate was in 103 dutch cav
My accomodation block overlooked the Cloggie tank park.
That thing moves pretty well
Like its ancestor Wirbelwind or Ostwind, so much interesting to know those Flakpanzers seems traditionally a thin armored vehicle.🤔
What a beast of a machine. Still in service and doing great things for Ukraine
well explained, best regards from Germany mate!
I was a gunner on a Gepard in the 1st Regiment, Hannover. I would never have thought that the Gepard would hold up so well.
They are big machines that’s for sure
What a platform! With modern updates, surely plenty of life left in them.
On the front there is the sign of the unit 3/11, third companie, air defence regiment eleven. In this unit I had driving school lessons for Army motorcycles in 1980. Strange to see it now again.
Ukraine would like to lease it for the next couple of seasons...
I worked on the older American Vulcan AA system. We would go twice a year to Northern Germany for aerial gunnery. Normally would see the germans working their Gepards and sometimes firing.
Still have a German gepard Crest, "person on one knee with bow a arrow pointing to the sky"
For fast moving target sleeves were pulled by a Fiat G91 and slow moving target, same sleeve pulled by a OV10 bronco. Two years later the G91 and bronco were replaced with a Learjet. 88-90 before we deployed to first gulf war. Air Force shot all the aircraft down so only ground equipment was shot at by Vulcan 20mm Gatling guns.
Hello Billy yes I know the coat of arms. I was there in the north with the Bundeswehr in 1982-83. Some of our soldiers were allowed to shoot in the US military. Many were exchange students in the United States when they were young and spoke English. It was really exciting to see the US military shooting. In the unit I was in we had 20mm guns and in the barracks was The Cheetah Regiment. The place where the shooting took place on the Baltic Sea was Putlos and Todendorf. Maybe we met then ;-)
Hi Billy, the crest you are talking about is the crest of the Anti-Aircraft-School of the German Army where all officers and sergeants of the Gepard crews where trained. The School was located in Rendburg and I guess you trained firing at Todendorf. Greetings from Germany.
@@frago63 yes, was at Todendorf I got the Crest. Think was for sell or traded at the small shop at the Kaserne.
@@Toddel1234567 Was in Germany in 84-86 as a medic at Landstuhl. Then but in 88-92 with Vulcan and gunnery at Todendorf.
@@billywalters6060 that was after my army time. It's been a long time. I was young then, now I'm an old man ;-)
I really like these Videos and the explanations of it's usage and armament ,thank you for that
Great. The Tank you shows is from the 3.FlaRgt11 in Achim Germany.
In 1987 i was there in the 7.FlaRgt 11. 12 years in the Gepard. Great for low flight Jets ore drones. Aware of the weather. If the air pressure, Wind Direktion and Temperatur ist not correct, the Hit quality goes down to Zero.
Hello Edmund, I was 1980 -1982 with the 7 battery at that time Captain Wolfgang Stonis. Basic training together with Boris Pistorius in the 3 battery
Why do german weapon designs always remind me to Star Wars...they all look like something the empire would use 🙂
Because the Empire in Star Wars was heavily based on Nazi Germany, and many of the infantry weapons are literally WW2 guns with random bits and pieces attached.
Maybe because one of the initial ideas of star wars was "WWII in Space"?
Little known fun fact:
George Lucas designed the Stormtroopers after the Sturmtruppen, a special unit in the German army during the first world war
1100 rpm of 35mm coming your way. Jeez. Beautiful machine.
"Jeez !" LOL.
Love you can book a ride in it, that’s awesome
Could you please show more of inside of the vehicle ? the turret seems to be quite complete.
Do the Radar's still rotate on the Gepard? I would assume that the interior equipment would have been removed, but the external equipment looks to be intact.
Thanks for the compliment, greetings from Germany!
I think the Gepard is very dangerous tank from Germany - a real killer and game changer in a war and this tank will change the future in a new dimension.
Definitely not a game changer.
total bull......
Als Kind hatte ich in den 90er einmal das Vergnügen, an einem Tag der offenen Tür von der Bundeswehr, dieses Coole Teil von innen bedienen zu dürfen. Also Turm drehen und Waffe schwenken. Der Turm kann sich enorm schnell drehen, was man aber nicht stark spürt da man genau auf dem Drehpunkt sitzt. Ich erinnere mich auch noch genau das ich die Waffe durch das Zielfernrohr manuell auf die Stirn eines anderen Besuchers ausgerichtet hatte😄.... Cool war auch das das Radar an war und sich der Gepard auf ein Verkehrsflugzeug eingeloggt hatte. Wie krass muss das führ die Besatzungen gewesen sein in echt auf Bodenziele zu feuern... die 35mm sind echt beeindruckend!
I just wondered if the cannons are set at a convergence point? If so, what might be the distance for same?
This tank is powerful.
I was disappointed that there wasn't an in-depth look at the crew positions!
The Dutch, more expensive, version (PRTL) has a specific turret to accomodate the Dutch radars and firecontrol system developed by "Hollandse Signaal Apparaten".
All have been sold of years ago. And Hollandse Signaal Apparaten is now part of Thales.
Man I would love to come down an see all these vehicles. So awsome
Would just think we left the Americans and Brits whit some of our world war stocks. While i guess those cold war vehicles we give to anybody who asks as we don´t use them anymore so should probably be not to rare.
great job mate, thank you.
Very Impressive vehicle. Great Explanation of it all.
So if the Ukrainians keep telling us this is the best thing since sliced bread, why did we retire them in 2012 in the first place? And should we maybe start building new ones, now that we just have set up a new production facility for the ammo, or at least bring the remaining ones back into the Bundeswehr? Just wondering.
(former Bundeswehr soldier, mid 1980s)
A very well presented video. The host totally knows what he is talking about and does so in a way that is at the same time entertaining and easy to understand. My favourite expression: "The buisness end of the vehicle"
Greetings from Germany!
I'd say it was a victim of German politics in slashing military spending too far.
Some form of drone defense is a must have now. A better option would be something like upgrades for the Puma IFV.. it already has airburst shells and with tracking improvements can attack low flying helicopters / drones.
Missiles ended its natural use. Any antiradar missile can out range it by far. Without its radar its not going to hit anything fast or low.
Simple because its all propaganda
Because they had to cut costs. And in their wisdom they decided that Taliban, pirates and random insurgents don't use SU-25 or Mi-24. Heck, even some NATO forces came up with the great idea to abandon all their MBT-forces since you "only need light infantry"
The Bundeswehr retired the Gepard for BUDGET reasons in 2012 ...Back in those happy days Russia had not invaded yet Crimea, let alone all of Ukraine. Since 2022 the German Ministry of Defense has DOUBLED its budget...!
That leo behind is a former Belgian army Leo 1A5. The thermal sight on top the turret is the give away.
5:31 Cool, the dual printers can deliver a burning and farting ink cartridge in another vehicle with ease.... love it !
Love your accent! Greeting from Germany great Video.
Romania still using Gepards for AA but also for fire support for the battle units.
As a former M113A1 driver/sig, I've always wanted to drive a Leopard...
Experience has shown that you cannot stall the Leopard 1's engine, so there is an emergency shutdown.
The Leopard 1 doesn't swim like an M113, but it can, among other things, drive under water.
As a former bucket driver, at least you would've had a chance of deploying somewhere in your actual ECN.
Unlike the koala's in their tanks...
If I was ADF I would have got them for Airbase and important Infrastructure defence. I remember Dinky Toys made them with missile spring , back in the 70's
Gepards may have been rendered obsolete at the end of the last century because of aircraft developments like stealth but the low and slow drones have given the Gepard a new lease of life. This shows that the Gepard is not obsolete but just ahead of its time. If they did not already exist, current warfare would have necessitated their creation.
I love how you show the mechanics of how it actually works instead of just talk about it.
Y-Reisen: wir buchen, Sie fluchen (Y-Travels: we book, you curse)
@ licence plate
Very interesting. Thanks for this. I enjoy these technical videos.
Do inside the hatch video of this!
Thanks.
Seriously, Germans just perfected the art of making tanks look super scary xD
Positioned carefully along likely air avenues of approach, integrated with infantry/armor for protection, armed with HEI, and linked in with a good aerial early warning system they can be effective v enemy air.
Like the SP Vulcan, they have the added bonus of being devastating v buildings, lighter armored vehicles, and dismounted personnel.
Not sure of maintenance issues (including gun and turret) but that’s another story.
Fascinating
as a German, my visit here is mandatory :D
btw, as Ukrainian i should state that we also very thankfull to Australia for help with anti-drone systems!
Amazingly well done! Shame that we Germans are without any real short range Anti Air support at the moment. Hopefully we will get the Skyranger 35 in the near future.
Skyranger 35 is just the next stage of the MANTIS anti air support weapon system that has been tested for the last 10 years.
@@hiya2793 Yes, and thats why we need it as a mobile version. idc if its the truck mounted or the one on the Boxer Platform. We need mobile Airdefense with ahead ammo and low cost which this is.
@@Thor_Asgard_ The Gepard was ridiculously expensive because it was a 1-fits-all solution that incorporated everything in 1 vehicle. From recon over lock over crew protection over firing, both anti air and anti ground-
It's completely overbuilt and half the features it has are not needed because it won't be standing all by itself on a random field.
Right now there's the wiesel with anti air rockets which works fine - the Skyranger will be world class again.
@@hiya2793 It was, but it was still cheaper then all that different shinannigans we now need. Just think about how expensive drone defense will be with rockets. Lasers and Ammo is the way to go in short range defense. And i hope we are going for world class again, as we can see, that we Germans are unable to make cheap shit in numbers.
Germany will use MANTIS instead of Gepard
Very intimidating looking vehicle. It looks like something that should belong In a terminator movie. Does the turret still rotate? I understand that the turret can rotate very fast because it needs to track a fast moving aircraft
Just watch a video about the Gepard, it will leave you in awe...
Thank you for sharing
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Thank you. Nice info.
I bet them guns take some cleaning after firing! I’d love an interior tour if you get the time, thanks.
Fascinating, thanks
The Gepard always makes me contemplate the Sgt. York. On paper it should have been even a little better than the Gepard having newer electronics, radar and a more common gun. It was at least on the superior armored M48 hull. When that didn't work out, I can only imagine politics and pride kept them from just buying Gepard turrets to put on the M48 hull. The turret ring could easily accommodate that turret.
I always irritated by people complaining or blaming politics that a certain weapon system didn't make it. I for one prefer politicians that don't greenlight any project but ask themselves: "Do the people really need this?"
It's a shame because I think the use could have used a SPAAG. Though we had the Vulcan system for a bit
You want a more common gun than a 40mm Bofors?
@@malteschaper3782 the US has desperately needed a spaag for decades. The Vulcan based 20mm were outdated and not up to the requirements of even the 1970's . The Gepard was a successful piece of equipment and would hardly be a pork barrel acquisition. As I surmised, parochial politics far more likely impeded the fulfillment of the equipment need.
@@MM22966 did you misunderstand my comment? That was the point. For the US, the 40mm would seem to be a superior choice.
Not Bad, nice setup.!!
Bane of what? The Geranium 2s have still been finding their targets with great success
The 35 mm burst/shrapnel Ammunition is pretty perfect for suicide drones and low flying cruises missles!
and helicopters
MY Car has a tiny FIAT 1.0 Turbo Engine : Less of 30% of the auxeliry engine. :D
Amazing the Gepard is still relevant and in use in todays Ukrainian conflict shooting down drones that weren’t even invented when this system was designed and produced. 😊
PS - Hope the Swiss reconsider and exports additional ammunition to Ukraine.
Please don't get into politics here especially when you don't seem to understand who is on the right side of history. Suggest educating yourself and go back as far as 1991 (Ukraine Independence) when Nazis re-surfaced and started making themselves known once again.
@@Slaktrax Maybe you should take your own advice and keep your opinions to yourself. Mkay?
@@Slaktrax 🤡🤡🤡
@@Slaktrax Been supporting putin long?
@@Slaktrax yeah there are neonazis in Ukraine.
Same as with the UK.
You realise that your (the british) Neo-Nazi Culture of the 1970´s and 80´s was the style template for basicly all western neo-nazi cultures till the early 2000´s? (Skinheads).
You realise that the largest and most dangerous neo-nazi terror network of the western world originated in the UK? (Combat 18)
The UK has one of the largest established right wing extremist/neo-nazi political representations in western europe.
In comparison, during the last elections in Ukraine, the right wing extremist party, to wich Azov is associated, got a single seat and that only due to something called "overhang mandate", wich means, the party got a local sucess (for example winning 60% in a constituency).
Ukraines Parliament has an entry threshhold, so that micro partys wont enter. This party did not make it over the threshhold and only got representation due to the overhang mandate.
How does the UK compare to that? you got right wing extremists in your fricking parliaments for decades and not in small numbers.
If my county was such an influential cornerstone of western right wing extremism, down to hosting the largest and most relevant neo nazi terror organisation of the western world (and still not prohibiting them) i would be very quiet.
The auxiliary power unit (Zusatzmotor ) is not polycarburant , works only on diesel.
When you run it at Armor Fest, does the radar rotate? Obviously you wouldn't have the radar transmit, but just rotate?