Teardown Of New Blown-Up Schröder Leaf Blower! Customer's Expensive Mistake!
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- Teardown Of New Blown-Up Schröder Leaf Blower! Customer's Expensive Mistake!
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found ya some part numbers. sending them via email.
Basic Mechanics should be a mandatory high school class.
They used to have shops of various type in schools until someone in the education dept. decided that computer and college was the way,and thing were going to be repaired and made by themself and china was going to make them .Beware of people that bow to you and they took over.
Donny, after watching this video I decided to buy this leaf blower. Got it today and it’s awesome! The user manual includes a parts list illustration with part numbers. If I can help you with finding the parts you need please let me know.
thanks, some viewers helped me to locate a cylinder kit!
I need help with the 9900 same issue
Great video, the explanation with the hands on tear down u made it understandable.👍👍
Thanks
Personally speaking I find in terms of the labor and the experience required it's just easier to replace the entire engine, clearly this engine rebuilding is something you do for a career whereas for me it's in the maintenance department of a service business and that spells out a lot of it as well. Great video, thank you.
Donny, what I was going to suggest is when you have an engine fail like this, as soon as you get the cylinder raised a bit, sneak a rag or towel under it to catch any debris that may fall out of the cylinder or ports as you take it the rest of the way off.
Just like our backpack blower... good little units. Yes - 50:1 fuel only!
Seems ironic, someone wrote on the tank "50:1" as a reminder. Thanks for the video.
haha yes! or maybe after
I learn lots from every one of your videos. Thanks man. Never pwned or worked on a leaf blower.
I've never heard of Schroder but I really hope you can find what you need to fix it. Good looking blower. Thanks Dony!
Ihave two of them one for me and one for my grandson,very cheap made,but it does its work.start right of way.
Nice video, Beautiful machine, funny how they forgot to tighten those screws when building it. But that can happen.
That about checking the crank bearings.....good tip. There are times you will hear someone say they rebuilt the saw.....or whatever and it didn't last no time before it gave out again.
That's probably cause the bearings were baked too.
Thanks
My job on the railway we use lots of blower packs like this and chop saws, all stuff that needs mixed gas and it’s amazing how many people put straight gas in them and blow them up without knowing you need to use mixed gas.
Thanks for the tips on checking for play before ordering a replacement cylinder kit, Don. I've got a kit on the way for a Husqvarna 150bt flip, but will check it for play in case it makes more sense to return the kit and keep it for parts or part it out.
I have this exact blower and I have a small landscaping business and I use it all the time and reason why board it was because it's very light and I hurt my back and I needed a very light backpack blower and this blower serves me very well. I blow these with it I use it all the time good product good price
Great video hoping you’ll find parts looks like a nice Leaf blower
I have the exact same one and love it!
Great tear down….
That’s why I like the old Blue Stihl oil due to the dye, you know it’s two stoke fuel.
Love the tear downs !
Very interesting takedown video, but what a shame to ruin this machine when so new. Hope the former owner learned their expensive lesson!!!! Thanks Don for the video! Well done!
Well done, loved the indepth further assessment of the bearing condition.
Cheers, Eric
Hello Dony, yes the leave blower is German company but there is a head quarters in USA also distribution center in Canada, USA and Mexico, so check them out
That's why all 2 cycle equipment I use all my stuff
Great video, hope you can get the repower kit and fix it!
Man dony… these tear down videos were wayyyyy overdue. I’ve been subbed for almost 10 years. Look at how fast Dave’s channel is growing. More tear downs!!!
Thank you! I purchased one after watching this video and knowing that a piston/cylinder kit is available if ever needed. It was $313.95US delivered.👍🇩🇪
Problem is, its a $389 blower.
👍👍Great video
Same as a generic Chinese eb650. EBay has kits for under $50
Thank you for this tutorial.
Ouch, I’ve seen this all too much as a certified Stihl tech, the machine leaves brand new and is not even gone from the store for an hour and they come back wondering why their machine won’t pull over. Some folks just don’t need to own gas OPE.
Your meant to fill it with mix as a part of pre-delivery and explain that they need to use 2T oil at 50:1 in their unit. Citi-boi!! Presume that all 2T customers are amateurs until they convince u otherwise. One of the reasons people pay a premium for Stihl products compared to say online or big box store is that the dealer will offer them the right advice on how to best use their machines. So if a customer returns within an hour with a straight gassed unit someone hasn't done their job properly.
@@aussiehardwood6196 I had gone over that with them and even filled the fuel tank but they didn’t remember to mix the fuel and gas.
@@aussiehardwood6196 it says it right on the machine. 40:1 50:1 and so on
They dont mark there Jerry cans and grab the wrong one
I’m a stihl tech as well. I’ve seen this same thing. Yes they leave my store with gas and demonstrated how to fill the tank and with what. Ive started to believe anyone buying a power tool should have a certificate from a class on tool operation.
Great video thank you
Hi Don, thanks for sharing. I just ordered one of these blowers last week, I should receive it this week. Please post the link to purchase a new piston and cylinder kit.🇨🇦
Nice video,very informative,thanks
I checked on Google they have a great website for their leaf blowers sell all the simple parts like gas tanks coils carburetors all reasonably priced and they have a contact site for email I'm sure you'll be able to get the part easily look forward to seeing it done keep up the good work take care
You can get many other parts that they don't have on the site via telephone or email just look through the owner's manual it breaks down every part, gives you part numbers for every part that you can reference to order.
I used this same brand last weekend and I was impressed with the power and the two stroke sound. It reminds me of the the 1970s racing dirt bikes 😊 I still prefer my Stihl back pack blower but this is a good alternative to a professional brand.
I use my stihl with their motomix fuel to extend the warranty. it works great!
I want buy one but how in where can you get in a air filter
Thanks for the very helpful video. One more question. This leaf blower that I just bought came with a very dry engine. Before putting the mixed fuel into the tank, should I add some of the 2-cycle oil into the engine through the spark plug hole?
To the tune of the Gillette March -- "Tell me how are ya fixed for oil? Better check and see. Please make sure you add enough -- A too thin mix makes it run mighty rough..."
Yeah, this is why I never loan mix gas equipment. 😑 I’ve had friends loan out a chainsaw and it came back seized up. The people always say “ what? I doesn’t run? It ran fine when I used it. Ran great just before I brought it back.”
It's a rebranded backpack blower designed by Schroder but manufactured by the Yuzhoukee Power equipment company in China.
Really sad that a nice machine like that is not taken better care of have not heard of that brand but am curious to see how it runs if you can find the parts for it thanks Don
I need to get one of those to clean up my pumpkin patch!
Good video.
Thank you
Never heard of that brand. Looks like a decent unit.
Kind of looks like a redmax, love your vids!
this was a very informative video, many thanks. I was looking to buy a new piston and cylinder kit for a Stihl blower I have, so i'll check the rod and bearing condition first. I have the 80CC version of this blower and my Carby wore out. Choke virtually fell out from so much commercial use. Still looking for a replacement part.
check ali express
This is the reason that you don't lend your tools.
That blower sells for $340 in U.S. new. Not a lot of wiggle room for profit after replacing piston, rings and cylinder. Looks like a nice blower.
the guy left it at my shop so i think i'll fix it
First time i have seen one of these Donyboy looks like a nice unit too bad they ran it with straight fuel but this is what happens when you do not read your manual first.
Look nice I never had a backup leaf blower but my friend his going me a use one give a 4cycle backpack leaf blower it's a Troy bilt
That machine is a throwaway machine
When you throw yours away let me know
Thanks for video. This product is sold that kasei eb650 in Turkey. it is best quality mark of china in Turkiye. Price of this is 250 $ however stilh is 800$ or husqvarna is 650$
I know it's expensive, but unless you're a landscaping company, just buy the pre-mixed fuel from Husqvarna (or similar). You avoid the curse of ethanol, and your equipment will start second pull every time.
There are gas stations in my area that sell ethanol free gas
@@boots7859 Around me, there is no one selling ethanol free within 50 miles.
@@ButterBallTheOpossum It's very difficult to find in the eastern part of the country; heck, there's only one gas station near me that sells kerosene.
@@boots7859 Then what are you doing with that gas water mix you drain off????
@@boots7859probably not a good idea to add water unless you can assure when you drain off the fuel there's no water in it and for the diyre that's not a good idea
Looks like the Husqvarna 570 BTS
Crikey what a beatuy -Ahhh its a deadly Viper death spider--1 bite will take down a elaphant or 2 grown wilderbeast--Steve proceeds to grab the little booger--Wow!!!!!!!!!
Looks like a KASEI EB-800-E or a chinese clone for it; but if you search for the cylinder, it does not look like the same one. However it does look like the cylinder for the EB-650-E, look for 1E48FP-E-1 and 1E48FP-E.1-1, but check the bore on your machine..
Hope this helps, would love to see the rebuild!
I don't understand why people don't learn or read the owners manual before using a piece of equipment. I sure hope you are able to find a cylinder and piston kit for it still a nice blower
That company makes a big 4 stroke leaf blower.
Someone on Reddit said it's the same cylinder as the Chinese EB650. They do look to have the same shape and transfer ports.
Great video Don! I’ve never seen a Shroeder before. Do you think it has a Nikasil coated cylinder?
Looking forward to a follow-up video if you get the part. Love watching your videos!
yes I have the video in the works!
@@donyboy73 when did you plan to release the follow-up video? What is the Aliexpress link for the parts?
@@maestra1st I will soon!
What a shame!!! Again why is it so difficult for people to understand that these types of equipment run on mixed fuel?? They are decent blower. I purchased one last year and it still runs fantastic. It starts every time on either the first or second pull it definitely is worth the price, They are well built blowers, Don, I'm pretty sure they will get more popular as time goes on. I really enjoy these tear down videos. Have a great weekend good sir
Nice video and information. I was wondering if this can be a 1 to 1 copy/clone of other well known brands. If so, perhaps you can go from there. Just a suggestion.
thanks for the suggestion, some viewers have sent me a link to a kit on ali express
Amazon has a bunch of websites that came up when I searched for “Schrödinger leaf blower cylinder parts” cheap price too. Hope this is what you need.
I've owned one for a while now , good power for the money. German made assembled in china.
Hello Sir, I have the 90cc model which has been bulletproof. Bought in April of 2020. Very happy to get this much machine for under $500. The customer service has been very good as well. I would suggest reaching out to them. I'm in VT and it was imported through Canada. Purchased from Schroder ( pronounced Shraeder) web site. Thank you for your videos. Super helpful.
Actually not pronounced “Schraeder” but “Schröder”.
(We don’t have that “ö” sound in English, but it is almost like “er” with rounded lips.
@@oconnorcm just going by how the company pronounced it when I called.
So perfekt
lol. I just recently purchased my first impact and power ratchet. It took me a while to actually start using them, but once I did, I don't think I could force myself to use a screwdriver again.
Looks a lot like my RedMax backpack blower. At least from the outside.
People online have said that the cylinder and piston are the same size as the 'Chinese EB650'. The images online do look like the same parts. Seems like you can get a cylinder and piston rebuild kit for ~$40 CAD on Aliexpress. I'm sure this Schroeder is just a label slapped on a chinese model so the quality would be the same.
yes it looks like it!
I stumbled across this brand on Amazon while searching for my Toro battery hedge trimmer. Appeared to be one of those well made German brands that not everyone knows about or like a Festool type of tool brand.
Are you drunk? What is your education and what are you talking about?
@@Rein_Ciarfellafor the price point it blows the base model Husqvarna echo and other brands away. I can buy two or three of these for the price of a Husqvarna that has the same rating.
Did you get a new camera, Donny? Excellent clear, sharp video!
I used my other Canon camera I seldom used because I had to finally get the audio right on it!
Do you have a video on running a snow blower without oil?
Money is a great instructor ... unless you have more of it than brains. The dangers of too many signs (like the 71's song) is also visible. The 50:1 apparently refers to rest breaks between blowing sessions. Nice looking machine though.
Great video Don. That blower looks like it uses a generic Chinese 2-stroke. You're probably going to have to buy a cylinder just by finding one that looks similar. To me it looks very similar to RedMax equipment but you would have to compare carefully based on pictures.
someone just sent me a link to one on ALIEXPRESS
I was saying it looks like my Redmax 7500
Dony can you post the link to the cylinder kit you found?
Thanks for Sharing.....Always hurts to see a nice piece of equipment "Destroyed" by a "Silly/Careless Mistake". I try to learn from other peoples mistakes. Amazing how much damage was done, and it probably was done very quickly..... I wonder how much run time was on it before it "locked up"?
Question,Where are the carb adjustments on this model Shroder and what tools are needed for the adjustment ? You made a video on how to adjust carbs but not sure if this carb is the same. I Have one of these exact blowers and it runs great. My nephew just purchased the same model and it boggs when at full throttle. Seems lean. These are really nice blowers for the money. Could ya do a video on how to adjust the carbs on this blower and the tools that needed to adjust the carb if different then the video you did on 2 stroke carb adjustments. Thanks for any info.
Like the Kubota shirt
The engine looks like one from an echo pb650-pb-655, pb755 if you look at a picture of their short block kit. They’re also 63.3 cc. They are using the zenoah 75.6cc engines on their biggest blower Schroeder.
with viewers' help I managed to find a cylinder kit on aliexpress
So was the engine locked up? Like you couldn’t pull the cord? Or what was making it not turn over
I have one, and while it's a really good quality, it's too hard for me to pull the starter cord. With an engine this big, they should have a compression release, spring assist starter (like Echo E-Z Start), or even just a larger recoil assembly so you have more leverage.
So I went with a Ryobi 40V electric backpack blower. The power is disappointing in comparison. But then, so is the run time. A tank of fuel would run for quite some time. The 40V Rayobi battery is too hot to recharge after you drain it. But I have no problem starting it!
I assume Schröder didn't honor the 5 year warranty due to the owner's not using 50:1 2-stroke oil?
What a shame. I know that owner is kicking himself. Good luck finding the cylinder kit! I hope you get a great price on it. After making the video, you could sell it if the owner doesn't want to pay for the repair. I'd like to have a leaf, twig and debris vacuum bagger. I had an electric one that I liked, but I guess gas would be good as well. That one was all plastic and the fan blades would clog and bind, but the fan cover had a clip to keep it closed, so it wasn't too hard to clear. It could also be used as a blower. Just switch attachments.
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Don just heard on Chicmecanic channel that effective September 2023, Honda will quit manufacturing their lawnmowers and sounds like all their lawn equipment. Parts will still be made and available.
wow I didn't know that!
@@donyboy73 There goes quality equip !
Great job, fix it !
ouch mate i,m sure you,ll be able to find a cylinder kit for it out there etc.
Funny... 50:1 is hand written on the fuel tank. It looks like my Redmax leaf blower.
They seem to be made by Yuzhoukee Power Equipment company so you should be able to find the parts from them.
Eb650 China made blowers use the same engine too .
I'm not sure with parts and labor it's worth fixing?
I love it when someone posts" suddenly locked up" but available for sale for $$$ on Marketplace. I saw one earlier this week. The owner KNEW what they had done, but still trying to pawn it off as" Don't know why it won't start". I am done responding to those ads. Total junk and I am done with them.
Pretty sure they are the same as the echo. I just relaced a cylinder and piston for a bp580. Cost about $100 US dollars.
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Hey Don, I was just wondering what camera you are using these days? Thanks -Mike
The situation here is that finding parts for this model. Hopefully if you do, you will comment where and what you were able to come up with. It appears that this company has at least three models of leaf blowers.
Hey Donny, love your videos. I have a Kohler command 21hp I put on my walk behind mower last year. Only 50 hours and it starts up on the first pull. Sometimes after a few minutes of mowing it will suddenly act like it is running on half choke and loses power and runs rough. I move the choke lever back and forth and it doesn’t help. Air cleaner is clean and fuel is always fresh. Any ideas? It driving me nuts
I’d change your fuel filter since they’re cheap just to eliminate that possibility
Ordered one today. 279
Weird. Usually they come with a container of 2 stroke oil. What did the customer think it was for?
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Hey Don , did you ever find parts to make the repair on that 6400?
I want to do the same thg to my 9900x unit, because Schroder is not honoring the 5 year warranty. I did mix the gas 50:1. It died after 4 hours of straight blowing on my 5 acer property.
My 6400 using the same mix is still running great after 3 years of hard use
Dony, did you ever repair this blower?