most people have to cut songs from projects because they don't think the songs are good enough meanwhile jay writes songs that have to be cut because they're too good 💀
Petition to make an "EPIC the musical concept album: scrapped songs saga" so we can still hear them cause they're such bops Update: Mr Jorgey georgey said that there was a big probability that scrapped songs could be released, depending on the state of the song itself when it was recorded. For more information you should look around for that video. We win these!
The line "empathy may make you good, but it doesn't make you right" reminds me of Last Midnight from Into the Woods, when the witch says, "I'm not good, I'm not nice; I'm just RIGHT."
The Witch part of that scene is perfect, the way she's objective in trying to solve the problem instead of finding someone to blame, wish the world was a bit more like her. And yes, it does sound similar!
@@Matheus-ql7mnshe's not quite objective though, that's the point of No One Is Alone. Yes, no one should die, no one should be blamed, but sacrificing a boy only becoming an adult is not going to bring back her daughter, sticking together and rebuilding is what needed to happen
The Athena one was such a banger and I fully understand why you cut it! Jiving whilst Odysseus is in despair and confronting Athena over the moral ambiguity of his choices probably isn't what you were going for 😂😂😂 Extra album with the cut songs would be .... EPIC
True but I love Athena's voice so much that I would kill for another song with her featured! I hope the cut songs are made and released as an extras album.
"someone tell me why instead of strength I've oceans in my eyes" OH MY GODDDDDD I'm almost glad you cut it so that i don't cry myself to death listening to it YOU TRULY NEVER MISS EVEN WITH CUTS AND EDITS !! SO EXCITED TO HEAR ALL THE REST !!
"Empathy makes you good, But it does not makes you right! Sometimes mercy desapears, Sometimes you're better of using fear, The world is insensere" PLEASE! Bring these lines back in SOME way! They're the best and actually help explaining the theme of ruthlessness. JAY! PLEASE!
@@thefoxcelotclub I believe Jorge shared a list of all the songs in order at one point (can't find it now though), and although there were a couple with secret/unknown titles, those were not at parts of the story that seem to fit for "Man of the House".
Jorge, you are already making history with the official EPIC albums, but I am BEGGING for a release of an album for full versions of the cut songs. They are TOO good from what I've heard from here ALONE!!💙💥
Ooooh that one with Telemachus hit me hard. I'm sure once the full story is released, we'll see why it was cut, but it had so much emotion and weight that honestly captures how it feels to grow up and turn off your emotions and betray your values in certain situations.
I've always wondered if the sirens were gonna make an appearance in Epic since the sirens are already singers so they'd be perfect for a musical depiction. I'd always assumed they'd been cut from the story since there were already so many other songs dedicated to various creatures and hostile encounters. If there was a siren song you could use the voice actresses for Athena, Penelope, Circe, and maybe even get a voice actress to play Odysseus's mom to try to lure him from the ship since lust isn't necessarily something he'd be lured by. Guilt is a much more overarching theme in Odysseus's character in this musical so I think the siren song being about his guilt over his mother's death, leaving Penelope for so long, losing Athena as an ally, and for sleeping with Circe would work for one of the main themes in the story. Such a combination of powerful voices edging towards the more sinister would be awesome too.
In the actual book, when Odysseus encounters the Siren's, they aren't trying flirt with him or anything like that. They're telling him about the wisdom he'll gain if he joins them. So it makes more sense that the women there aren't only romantic partners but friends and family too.
@@michellelopez2170 "We can give you pleasure beyond what you could ever imagine." "No, I'm good, thanks." "...We could tell you how static electricity works." *" I n t r i g u i n g "*
The first ones are like depressing but like- you wanna dance while you're having a breakdown 😂 like that post about "having a panic attack with a harmonica it's a banger" or smth like that
i actually NEED an album solely consisting of the cut songs because they’re all bangers omg. ESPECIALLY the one with telemachus because???? i was genuinely close to TEARS oh god
Turning “The blood on your hands is something you can’t lose” from Horse and the Infant into an absolute banger in that This Is The Way track certainly would’ve been a decision. While it’s a shame to lose it…it’s probably for the best, tone-wise.
Everything your write is an absolute masterpiece, Jay. What I enjoy about your work is that you still treasure the cut songs despite them not capturing the essence and the drama of the scenario. You are so talented and really portray emotion through music, It is a gift that makes me admire you more than ever before.
sometimes you have to cut out parts you like, to keep the integrity of a story, even if it’s really good. You’re so gifted in creating music that can feel so immersive to the listeners. counting down the days for your next albums release😄
Those last two in particular are AMAZING, with the third being especially beautiful. I hope that if we get a cut songs album someday that all 3 of these make it onto it
The way the music picks up after he starts speaking before the music almost overflows, overwhelms in that last song. Like someone terrified to ask or say something until those feelings spill over and force you to speak before you drown in them It would be cool to see the last song released maybe as an extras sort of album or standalone song
Please make another album with all the cut songs! They are so amazing and like if they weren't shared with the world it would almost be a crime. Keep up the great work❤
Ngl, the first cut song snippet was so darn good! I need him to release that first one as a full song, and the third song's intro was really good. Good job, Jay! Keep up the good work! Can't wait for EPIC to be on Broadway (when it gets there)!
I just realised this, In the third song, "How do you do this", Thelemacus is talking to Athena ig, you can hear the quick thought clock ticking and Athena's tune in the background
People are going crazy for the songs and me in the background going crazy for his dance moves lol ........p.s I do really like the cut songs please make a separate album
My favorite cut song is Man of the House because I'm a shamless Odysseus and Penelope fangirl and the part where he sings about her is just **chef's kiss**
I wish you never would have posted this, because I will be wanting these songs forever. I wish I could go back to when I didn't know these songs existed.
As others have said, I would LOVE to see (and be happy to pay for) an album of cut songs from Epic somewhere down the lline, even just a "Jay cut" of you singing all the parts, like you do in these videos
Um yes that “something in the future” will be a concept album of every cut song that’s 2-3 times as long as the finalized album…..and it will be released all at once instead of in sections so we can all take the long way home from work for a few weeks……..
most people have to cut songs from projects because they don't think the songs are good enough meanwhile jay writes songs that have to be cut because they're too good 💀
FR 😂
I need these
Jay: I'm just TOO talented! (dramatic pose)
@@invadersel3025 I can actually see him doing that 😂
"Man of the house"😭😭😭
Odysseus being forced to question his life decisions: This can't be the way...!
Athena: 💃This 🎶is 🕺the 🎵way 👏
How is my brain both at once?
I need this as an animatic
THE WAY SHE BROUGHT BACK THE LAST LINE OF THE HORSE AND THE INFANT 😮
His eyes in this
BADASS SEÑORITA 💃💃
Petition to make an "EPIC the musical concept album: scrapped songs saga" so we can still hear them cause they're such bops
Update: Mr Jorgey georgey said that there was a big probability that scrapped songs could be released, depending on the state of the song itself when it was recorded. For more information you should look around for that video. We win these!
Agreed!!!
Agreeeee 🎉
Signed 🫡
Agree
Signed.
Odysseys: *getting close to a mental breakdown*
Athena: DIS🎶IS 🕺DA 🎵WAE
"Do you know da wae?"
Athena:
Yo can you PLEASEEEE release an extra album with all the cut songs????? I so wanna hear all these in full
Ditto on that
Holy yes, they are such bangers
Agreed
I would sacrifice my firstborn child for this to happen.
@@lamplightbeetle7759😂
Odysseus: sad, pleading, on his knees crying, even.
the gods: "THOU SHALT VIBE OR THOU SHALT DIE. CHOOSE!"
😂
0:27 Calypso Island Bop🌴
0:46 tHiS iS thE wAy!🕺💃
1:26 Telemachus’ Dilema🌊
Why tf did my brain read this as
"Telemachus' Dilemmachus"
@@mrs.samuel.L.jackson Aw dang! That’s a good one!
@@mrs.samuel.L.jacksonthat might be even better than the original
@@mrs.samuel.L.jacksonI am now calling every decision I have to make “Telemachus’ dilemmachus” 🤣
@@mrs.samuel.L.jacksonLMAOAO
The line "empathy may make you good, but it doesn't make you right" reminds me of Last Midnight from Into the Woods, when the witch says, "I'm not good, I'm not nice; I'm just RIGHT."
The Witch part of that scene is perfect, the way she's objective in trying to solve the problem instead of finding someone to blame, wish the world was a bit more like her.
And yes, it does sound similar!
@@Matheus-ql7mnshe's not quite objective though, that's the point of No One Is Alone.
Yes, no one should die, no one should be blamed, but sacrificing a boy only becoming an adult is not going to bring back her daughter, sticking together and rebuilding is what needed to happen
i love how odysseus is breaking down while athena is just VIBIN
THIS IS THE WAYYY
That second song with Athena is SO FREAKING GOOD! such a freaking bop!
Right I can’t stop looping it
Yeah I love it but like I feel it doesn't fit her charecter. Tho I hope he uses it in another project or maybe this project
Yeah and i love the lyrics.
This is the way
This cannot be the way…
tHiS iS tHe WaY
The Athena one was such a banger and I fully understand why you cut it! Jiving whilst Odysseus is in despair and confronting Athena over the moral ambiguity of his choices probably isn't what you were going for 😂😂😂 Extra album with the cut songs would be .... EPIC
True but I love Athena's voice so much that I would kill for another song with her featured! I hope the cut songs are made and released as an extras album.
Strategic Athena at her best. Proving she wasn't just being cold, but rather that there was true reason behind her decisions.
I disagree. Athena having a Hermes style dance party over Odysseus’s mental breakdown is peak storytelling
Jay’s melody: 🎶 😊
Jay’s lyrics: 🪦😢
How very j-pop of you, making wanna cry and dance at the same time.
"someone tell me why instead of strength I've oceans in my eyes" OH MY GODDDDDD I'm almost glad you cut it so that i don't cry myself to death listening to it YOU TRULY NEVER MISS EVEN WITH CUTS AND EDITS !! SO EXCITED TO HEAR ALL THE REST !!
Yea
Someone please tell me the old story
He needs to make a cut album I would buy it for this song
1:13 *odysseus' men getting violently slaughtered by the cyclops*
athena: THE BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS IS SOMETHING YOU CAN'T LOSE 🕺🎺🎹🎤✨
I'd buy an entire album of just the cut songs. Especially the one with "oceans in my eyes". I need that on my playlists.
Same
Fr
Its not a playlist without a bit of angst and crying in it
Odysseus, following Athena: This can't be the way.
Athena, completely lost while on the way to McDonalds: This is the way
The Telemachus song is definitely the one that breaks my heart not to hear in the official album the most
Same. That honestly has so much emotional impact and offers such a contrast with his Dad and the changes in morality through the war and voyage home.
"Empathy makes you good,
But it does not makes you right!
Sometimes mercy desapears,
Sometimes you're better of using fear,
The world is insensere"
PLEASE! Bring these lines back in SOME way! They're the best and actually help explaining the theme of ruthlessness. JAY! PLEASE!
So Athena doesn’t just vibe with Odysseus being a fanboy, she vibes with his existential crises too...
I love how Jay is just getting more comfortable talking to us, from the bottom of my heart, thank you for this musical
Why am I picturing Odysseus standing in the rain, head in hands looking off sadly contemplating life while Athena does taunt dances behind him? XD
I was waiting for “Man of the House” which I really love and miss!!! But these songs are so good too! Honestly all EPIC songs are just epic songs!✨
Me too! I adore "Man of the House" and still listen to/sing it regularly. Would have loved to hear the whole song, not just the two snippets we got.
I don’t think it’s cut. I think it got moved somewhere else.
@@thefoxcelotclubpart of it got into Penelope's song the challenge
@@thefoxcelotclub I believe Jorge shared a list of all the songs in order at one point (can't find it now though), and although there were a couple with secret/unknown titles, those were not at parts of the story that seem to fit for "Man of the House".
@@ViveMeorLeti I’ll see if I can find it
Jorge, you are already making history with the official EPIC albums, but I am BEGGING for a release of an album for full versions of the cut songs. They are TOO good from what I've heard from here ALONE!!💙💥
That would be amazing!!! All in favor say aye
Ooooh that one with Telemachus hit me hard. I'm sure once the full story is released, we'll see why it was cut, but it had so much emotion and weight that honestly captures how it feels to grow up and turn off your emotions and betray your values in certain situations.
*I NEED the last song to be somewhere to listen- It's so painfully beautiful.* It would be so cool if there was a playlist of the cut songs 😌
I've always wondered if the sirens were gonna make an appearance in Epic since the sirens are already singers so they'd be perfect for a musical depiction. I'd always assumed they'd been cut from the story since there were already so many other songs dedicated to various creatures and hostile encounters. If there was a siren song you could use the voice actresses for Athena, Penelope, Circe, and maybe even get a voice actress to play Odysseus's mom to try to lure him from the ship since lust isn't necessarily something he'd be lured by. Guilt is a much more overarching theme in Odysseus's character in this musical so I think the siren song being about his guilt over his mother's death, leaving Penelope for so long, losing Athena as an ally, and for sleeping with Circe would work for one of the main themes in the story. Such a combination of powerful voices edging towards the more sinister would be awesome too.
In the actual book, when Odysseus encounters the Siren's, they aren't trying flirt with him or anything like that. They're telling him about the wisdom he'll gain if he joins them. So it makes more sense that the women there aren't only romantic partners but friends and family too.
@@michellelopez2170 Great point! Thanks for adding on!
@@michellelopez2170
"We can give you pleasure beyond what you could ever imagine."
"No, I'm good, thanks."
"...We could tell you how static electricity works."
*" I n t r i g u i n g "*
This is such a great idea goddd
The first ones are like depressing but like- you wanna dance while you're having a breakdown 😂 like that post about "having a panic attack with a harmonica it's a banger" or smth like that
i actually NEED an album solely consisting of the cut songs because they’re all bangers omg. ESPECIALLY the one with telemachus because???? i was genuinely close to TEARS oh god
Oh now I'm SOO hoping for a cut songs albums/ep once the Main Album is done and everyone has had a break!!!!!!!!!!!!
The "this is the way" one was A BOP
Turning “The blood on your hands is something you can’t lose” from Horse and the Infant into an absolute banger in that This Is The Way track certainly would’ve been a decision. While it’s a shame to lose it…it’s probably for the best, tone-wise.
I'm absolutely living for the portrayal of Athena freaking breakin it down while Odysseus questions everything
jay is a gremlin... and we love him for that
Everything your write is an absolute masterpiece, Jay. What I enjoy about your work is that you still treasure the cut songs despite them not capturing the essence and the drama of the scenario. You are so talented and really portray emotion through music, It is a gift that makes me admire you more than ever before.
Not gonna lie, with the dancing and the lights it made it seem like Odysseus was at a disco.
Like instead of Athena it was Dionysus who mentored him.
@@tarniabook3076alternate timeline lmao
I NEED "oceans in my eyes" to be released, even if it's just a released album of cancelled songs 😭😭
The second song is what plays in the Mandalorian’s helmet all day XD
Honestly if you made "Epic the cut saga" i would be here for all of it. I have enjoyed so many of your song!!! keep up the great work! and thank you.
I need the Telemachus cut song just put out there. I don’t need it finished cause it’s already perfect.
You could make the cut songs into a side stories arc.❤❤❤
sometimes you have to cut out parts you like, to keep the integrity of a story, even if it’s really good. You’re so gifted in creating music that can feel so immersive to the listeners. counting down the days for your next albums release😄
Fitting or not, all the cut songs are slapping hard! We need a full album of these
Those last two in particular are AMAZING, with the third being especially beautiful. I hope that if we get a cut songs album someday that all 3 of these make it onto it
I absolutely want a bonus album with all the bops- these are killer!
When Athena sings 'this is the way," probably a Mandalorian in a far away galaxy sneezes.
I'm personally a major fan of Let Me Be Your Light and I sing it daily. Seconding the request for full versions of the cut songs too!
I really love that second one, but I get it, it’s *way* too fun....I love the sheer juxtaposition though
The way the music picks up after he starts speaking before the music almost overflows, overwhelms in that last song. Like someone terrified to ask or say something until those feelings spill over and force you to speak before you drown in them
It would be cool to see the last song released maybe as an extras sort of album or standalone song
That second song has been stuck in my head on loop for WEEKS.
I think my favorite cut song is that one where odysseus is seducing calypso to trick her
I just love the "wait for me precious!" It hits me everytime
man of the house 😭😭😭😭
I feel like we need a bonus album of just vibe songs
Please make another album with all the cut songs! They are so amazing and like if they weren't shared with the world it would almost be a crime. Keep up the great work❤
You know one I really liked? Your light. Masterpiece.
Those dance moves are fire and i will use them the next time i am at a party 😂🎉
Once everything is is over, you could put an album out of all the cut or scrapped songs!
I liked that you still kept “All you can choose is whose” in the horse and the infant!!!
Ngl, the first cut song snippet was so darn good! I need him to release that first one as a full song, and the third song's intro was really good. Good job, Jay! Keep up the good work! Can't wait for EPIC to be on Broadway (when it gets there)!
i really really really hope that jay will release that song of Telemachus, this is soooo good i want to listen to it 24/7
Oh man you are far too talented I can’t wait to see the completed work
I love the fact that Jay is so talented, the songs are too good for him to release. It's actually incredible! Love your work! ❤❤❤
We need a bonus album with all of these songs!!!
Jay is the only person who doesn't cut songs because they aren't good enough, but because they are to good
I can't with his dance moves 😂
✨SLAYYY✨ as previously stated in the Horse and the Infant
I am living for those dance moves
“Empathy makes you good but it does not make you right!” Is giving me big Into the Woods vibes in the best way
The Athena song needs a full version, I genuinely love it so much just based off the few seconds
I feel like he just needs to make a “EPIC:Cuts” playlist so we can hear the songs still
I just realised this, In the third song, "How do you do this", Thelemacus is talking to Athena ig, you can hear the quick thought clock ticking and Athena's tune in the background
People are going crazy for the songs and me in the background going crazy for his dance moves lol ........p.s I do really like the cut songs please make a separate album
My favorite cut song is Man of the House because I'm a shamless Odysseus and Penelope fangirl and the part where he sings about her is just **chef's kiss**
Can you please release all the cut songs in a separate thing!!! It would seriously be the most awesome thing!! You are so gifted with this!!
I love the first one, also his little dancy dance is funny and cute
It's so funny when you know the correct vibe
I wish you never would have posted this, because I will be wanting these songs forever. I wish I could go back to when I didn't know these songs existed.
We need an album of cut songs because those where fire!
Instead of strength there's oceans in my eyes 😮😭😍🤌
I felt that in my soul Jay!
Hector's son: *exists*
Ody: This is the way
Zeus: Nope
You weren't lying one bit when you mentioned they were such bops, I was jamming here
THIS CANNOT BE THE WAY!
How can you cut that bop of a song especially with Athena's voice! This can not be the way!
The first one tough, is amazing
Ah yes I want a bonus content disc because God damn that last one slaps.
I need mooore lol
Dude be groovin like it's the 80's with those cut Odysseus songs XD
As others have said, I would LOVE to see (and be happy to pay for) an album of cut songs from Epic somewhere down the lline, even just a "Jay cut" of you singing all the parts, like you do in these videos
I love his vibe 😂😂😂
I need a friend like this 😅
You ain't lying. Those were all bops.
You should release them as extra songs
Holy shit they're all fantastic but the Telemachus Song is outstanding for me! Wish I could hear more of it 😭❤️
PLEASE release them one day! They sound so great!!
the 1st and 2nd songs had me wigglin like a roach in my chair
Um yes that “something in the future” will be a concept album of every cut song that’s 2-3 times as long as the finalized album…..and it will be released all at once instead of in sections so we can all take the long way home from work for a few weeks……..
00:47 I'M TOTALLY IN LOVE LIKE- AAAAAA
That second example was so fire bro
all i need is a video party/live at the end of the musical with all the actrors singing the cuts songs and vibing
This man needs to drop a side soundtrack for the cut songs exclusively😂
okay why do these go SO HARD OML
Ocean in my eyes part gave me chills!!
He looks like he’s havin a good time! 😂
STOP IT! We’re gonna a whole “bonus” album of cut songs please!