Continental 5000 S TR is compatible with the wheels! I've been using them for 6 months now and everything works great. I asked Giant if I can use the tires and they replied YES, provided that - for my own safety - I do not exceed 5 bars. That is also what Continental recommends. To be honest, 5 bars is ideal pressure. Another thing is that if you load 5 bars your sealant will probably seal your punctured tire. On some occasions I load s little more, around 6 bars. 5 bars is perfect - I tran a lot, race a lot and even win a few races a year, always on 5 bars in my tires.
I own the same bike since March of this year. I have the exact feedback. I think you should replace the Giant tires to the Schwalbe pro one TLE 28mm. When I first got the bike, I switched out the Cadex to Giant 28mm Course 0 tires cause the sales rep said you won't get no puncture. Obviously, after
I can't believe the sales rep told you to switch from Cadex tire to the inferior Course 0 tire. I got almost 4.5k on my Cadex 25mm, so far so good, no punctures or cuts. (ofc this is heavily influenced by many factors. Maybe ill try the Schwalbe Pro One TLEs next, but also read that a few people had sidewall latex leaking.
Great video and great insight! I'm looking to get the same bike but hoping to get some sizing advice!! What size do you ride and what's your height/inseam?! I'm not sure if a small would fit me or if it would be too small. Thanks in advance!
did u switch cadex classic or pro ? the stock tires i feel r kinda slow compared to the gp500 almost night n day but not aproved list wich is wack for now
Thanks for your video, I have the same bike and here is what I like about it: Very responsive, comfortable and the general feeling of flawless rides, the fact that it comes with dual sided power meter, carbon rims, carbon handle bar, DI2 group set makes it very competitive on the market with good value! What I don’t like about it: Yes the choice of tubeless tires is very limited and I heard there will be more choice in a near future but that was almost a year ago and so far no more choices. Disk brake rubbing especially on hard braking on descent. The paint of the frame is beautiful however I found the finish not up to a good standard, and gets very easily scuffed and scratched, I’m not sure if it’s because of the paint or the clear coat quality.
I have the 2021 Advance Pro 1 disc. I swapped the tyres to schwalbe pro one TLE 28mm as I wanted to run lower pressures. This makes the feel of the bike buttery smooth and makes a fast bike feel so much quicker. The one thing I plan to change in the future is my mechanical groupset. I originally ordered the Pro 0 but this was unavailable so brought the pro 1 instead, and to be honest prefer the colour way. Don't get me wrong, ultegra mechanical is brilliant and incredibly crisp, but I just prefer electronic shifting.
I also have advanced pro 1 (because pro 0 was unavailable) and changed group set to Di2 the first day. Great bike but electronic gear is amazing. Especially full syncro mode
I totally agree with you about the limited tire selection for this TCR model. Although they're not light weight tires, I really like 28mm Gavia Fondo 0 tubeless tires in conjunction with Dyna plugs. After a couple of puncture holes fixed by Dyna plugs, I put down over 6,000 miles with no flat so far. I'm really impressed with them and that they're quite comfortable to ride, too.
The bulging tire you have described is a big issue for aerodynamics. Basically, if the tire is wider than the rim, all aero benefits of the rim are lost.
Giant is Giant in bicycles. No others can argue that! Gaint giving the best bang for the money what they offer from other top expensive brands. Always my fav Bike brand*
The frameset is quite soft and comfortable. My expectation is that th SL frameset does not share this softness try and hold the front brake and see how much the fork will move under you. Also: jerk the handlebar left to right and notice the flex in the top tube. It’s no worry and this is intended. It does mean that this bike is NOT an all out race bike although it will probably do fine in such settings.
I got the TCR Advanced 1 Pro Compact which comes without these flashy wheels and without a powermeter as I wanted to change the cranks to 165mm and not run Giants hookless rims. I bought some 35mm Hunt Aero Wide wheels to give me more tire options and less of a handful in windy conditions being a light weight rider. The bike is great and I got it at a very good price as most people want the powermeter and carbon wheels options. One thing I dislike is the rubber seal at the seatpost junction with the frame, it never seems to sit right.
Have a 2021 TCR Advanced upgraded to this Pro 0 spec! You could shrink wrap the Di2 cable and the rear hydraulic brake line together for a cleaner look.
I own TCR 2020 advanced with 105 groupset I hate the giant tubeless tire first ride i got flat already I replaced it with gp5000 big difference Overall great bike
Great, honest review, thanks. I went all in on tubeless a couple years ago, loved it, preached it until I fell out of love due to the mess and (in my opinion), upkeep hassle. That, and the hookless rims are kind of a turn off for me, even as I’m very close to making the decision to get this bike too.
Super nice bike, I love the color! I hope you get more tire choice in the future. I own a TCR advanced 1 from 2018 with a Scope r4c wheelset. After 10.000km, still like new. Luckily without hookles rims, so more tire choice. I love how it rides and the steering is super precise. But, the color of yours is so much better than my black/orange one. Enjoy it en don't sell unless you are very sure you make an upgrade. This bike is so much value for the money.
Shcwalbe pro 1 is on the list. I run 28mm pirelli p zero race SL tlr. It's not on the giant list but works great 👍 a lot of people run the gp5000 even though it's on the fail list. They work but just means if they fail it's on you not giant and the reason for failure is that the tire can come off with higher pressures. From giant's website: Please be aware that if you choose to use a tire with an indicated maximum pressure above 72.5psi (5 bar) that is not on the list of tires that have passed the Giant test protocol, YOU DO SO AT YOUR OWN RISK, as the tire may not function properly with the Giant hookless WheelSystem. Please note that if the maximum pressure indicated on the sidewall of a tire is below 72.5psi (5 bar), the tire is tubeless compatible, and is not indicated as being incompatible with hookless rims, it can be used with Giant hookless WheelSystems and does not have to appear on the ¨What Tires Can I Use" chart...
Hi Paul, I saw that too on the website. I ordered the same bike and I am used to riding Pirelli 28 mm tires at this time (i love the ridefeel and grip). I expect my giant to be delivered in October. I just wanted to ask if these tires at 28mm don't bulge too much from the rims of the slr1 wheels? I see that the 26mm tires are not hookless compatible.
Got mine about a year ago. Tires are the worst, got my first puncture within the first month and it won't seal. Just got serviced last week because the bb was creaking and I changed the rear tire to schwalbe pro. Can't wait for this weekend to try it. I really don't like hookless but manufacturers are pushing it for the new models, such as zipp 303s or enve AR series. Hope continental would update their tubeless to be compatible for hookless rims.
Nice review of the TCR, I recently picked up a second hand 2018 Propel Advanced Pro Disc, love it as well. Your review makes me want to get a TCR as well. Keep up the great content!
I bought this 2021 TCR Advanced pro 0 and and I love it. However, it didn't take me long to find that the Cadex tires are the worst tires I have ever owned. I have gone with the Continental 5000's and they are amazing.
Have the same bike as well, already switched to the schwalbe pro one's in 28mm as well. Another friend has the same bike and has done so as well, the stock tires are horrible and get punctured super easily. Nice seeing you at the bike event yesterday, hopefully you got some footage for your next video!
I'm running a Di2 DA SL 0. Giant tyres are ghastly and their tubeless rim tech is crap as it leaks air way too fast (my TCR, my wife's Liv and my Revolt). At the time of buying the bikes I had assumed buying top tier bikes would come with decent tyres .. so I bought a supply of them - HUGE mistake. I've never had any issues with my Specialised or Mavic tubeless systems so I didn't expect Giant's to be so bad. I'm about to fit Schwabs even though I still have some Gavias left and I hope the result retains air a bit better. Partly a Shimano issue but I'd like tidier cabling ... a TCR with the new 12speed wireless DA would be nice! I don't have an issue with the rim dimensions. Anything that gives you aero benefits would be a good thing but ofter that'll come with a weight penalty.
Thanks for the review and what a beautiful bike it is! You would not recommend tubeless for longer rides, say 100-150km when you are out in the wild? Can you easily put a tube in in case of malfunctions?
yea paint is nice, disc stop with less effort, electronic shifting shifter better, tires suck, free wheel sound i like, had a faster pinarello before this, make us glad to hear.
Nice Patt had this on Order since last October. It was firstly supposed to arrive last April then but back to July/August and now end of October. Asked my LBS if they can contact Giant and see if I can get anything with the new Ultegra 12Speed instead. If not Id still be cool getting this one. Might as well ask though. Good review man.
Yea GL GL I hope they upgrade you to the 12 sp. My buddy at his bike shop says that because of shortages of 11sp ultegra, they are shipping new bikes with the upgraded 12 Sp, so fingers crossed. You might have to pay the difference in price?? But that will depend on what your LBS says. Keep me posted :) thanks !
@@pattnwia hope so too man. I got in there with the question pretty quick and had a deposit down for a year and stuck with them. 12spd would be great along with that bike. I've got a bit more to spend if needed it will be worth it.
I'm a Giant fan, 1 thing that has stopped me from buying a TCR Disc are the cables, WHY WHY are they not internal such as the new Propel, so only 1 dislike, otherwise best looking bike on the road, I currently have 4 Giants in my house hold and loving them.
Hi, nice review and i like it! Probably it is better IMHO, to put a little flying texts when you mention the main point of like/dislike. Some people are in situation where you can access to TH-cam, but you have to have phone silent but too lazy to grab a headset. Anyhow, i owned also TCR the lower version with 105 groupset. Although it is different, for the 1 year usage, which part of the bike did you change / upgrade? Or you put the factory standard as it is? Thank you! 👍🏾
Thanks for the tip, I'll be sure to add text next time. My TCR is stock but they did give me a carbon handlebar instead of the aluminum one that was supposed to be spec ed
@@pattnwia great! I have used the TCR more than 2000 km with stock parts but so far so good. Just wondering why people around me like to ask about upgrade when the stock part is enough. Thanks for the response btw. Keep it up! 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Mine is so loud too!!!! I hate it.... I Have a 2021 but slightly different spec... It has the Ultegra but mechanical, and with a 105 cassette and an unnamed crank?!?!?! I think it rolls great straight out of the box, no real bike specific problems. Light enough, agile enough and strong enough, great all round bike for the money :-) I have only ridden a few thousand kms so far though but think it will last well....
Hi, I am 175cm tall. Bike is size 52 and stem length is 100mm I made a full review on this bike, you can check it out on my channel. Hope the info helps !
Thank you so much for the feedback. i have the very same bike but in size XS. I did not have the chance to try the size small (S) as it was not available at Giant Vancouver when I bought it a year ago. I just went ahead with XS being the only size left. I am exactly 164.5 cm. Do you think I should have ordered and waited for the size S or I've got the best fit? Thank you :)
I think you got a good fit :) I have a friend who is 169 cm and he just got a trek emonda in size 50cm. You can also check out the newest video on my channel. I rode his bike and it was too small for me.
I ended up getting this model but really wish giant offered the framset only option. My plan was to transfer the drivetrain/components to the TCR if the frame was available. The bike is still sweet though!
Thanks for the honest review. Because of the hookless wheel setup I’m guessing a regular clincher non tubeless tire, for backup, won’t work (if I have to swap out in an emergency as when the tubeless no longer sealing after a leak or puncture on a ride). Please advise.
@@pattnwia thanks, my experience with regular clincher tires is that it needs a rim hook to properly seal which hookless don’t provide, and that according to technical journals I just read now the tire can blow off the rim especially when enough pressure builds up either on a sweeping descent where the full weight of the rider with the high acceleration of the downhill speed come into play.
@@pattnwia this means if you encounter an irreparable flat (hole won’t get sealed because of size or sidewall placement) you’ll be stuck in the boonies cuz the backup clincher won’t be compatible with the hookless rim.
im guessing its 17lbs about? thats not too light. and tires have to be the most cost effective upgrade to a bike so that sux you cant get better ones to help you go faster. that pina with da was prolly closer to 15lbs
There is nothing wrong with the Schwalbe Pro One tires. They really are in the same league as the Conti GP5000 tires. About the tubeless tires. Giant does not do anything wrong. The tire manufactures should make the tires really good tubeless and in this case fit to be set on a hookless rim. Actually I think it's a good thing that Giant has a list of "approved" tubles tires. It's now up to the manufacturers to improve the tubeless tires. I think the Giant Advanced Pro 0 or 1 are excellent bikes. Maybe the best bikes that money could buy. In your review I miss the the remarks about how good this bikes rides and how good it steers. What about the new short nose saddle? These new Giant fleet saddels are quite good. So yeah, a good review, but it lacks quite many others aspects of quality bike. Maybe it's something you could emphasize in another review. A good bike is all about handling an steering and not the sound of the wheels.
I’ve got the pro disc 1, I run 26 Pirelli P zero tyres and they are so much better. I can run up to 30mm comfortably but yea after that the wheel runs a little narrow. Not a issue for me as I won’t run more than that anyway.
I am in the marketing getting a TCR or Propel....do you happened to have friends owned 2021/2022 Propel? would love to hear what you think between TCR vs Propel.
Hello! I am in MTB for almost 2 years and I am converting to road bikes....What do you think about Giant Tcr Advanced 2016 model? - Is it good for beginners? - What is the perfect size for 1.78 cm Height? - Can I do packaging with the bike
If that was mine I would’ve sold the wheels in the very beginning! Don’t want hookless and don’t like being forced to use Giant, maxxis or schwalbe tyres all of which I don’t rate at all! I do like the tcr platform though!
I would always recommend sizing down. A smaller size would allow more room for adjustments. I would try both and see which one you prefer, then get a second opinion from your local bike shop experts. Hope that helps :)
I have the same bike, the same color, etc. It's the best price for kind of equipment but I don't like in this bike many things: glossy frame can be easily scratched, I hit cables outside with my leg on uphills, noisy rear wheel, compatible tires only from Cadex (very expensive) or Schwalbe (I hate them), gray Giant logo instead of white, some knocking from bottom bracket or frame (PressFit is bad idea). I bought it only because it was available within 2 weeks in comparison to 4 months in another brands. Price also better and power meter included. So this choice saved my season 2021 because old bike has been broken but in general I would like to buy shortly something else. I forgot also to mention about noisy disc brakes especially in a rain (still fighting with that to make it silence).
@@abogdzie sorry to hear about your unhappiness with my favourite bike model. I have one but the advance model. Only the initial bite from the brakes made some noise from mine, apart from that, totally enjoying it. If you don’t mind sharing, why do you hate the schwable tires ? Hope your next bike will be better.
@@sktang7145 It was only cold analysis. I like this bike and I’m going to eliminate all negative aspects. It’s still great bike especially for this price in comparison to other brands.
I'm 175 cm tall with a 75 cm inseam. I can ride both the small and the medium frame. So it really depends on preference. I suggest trying both sizes in person and go from there.
I think the Pinarello is still the faster bike. I haven't been able to beat my mountain climb PRs with my TCR, set by the pinarello. :P The pinarello had better wheels, i would say. Overall everything is better/faster for the Pinarello.
Yeaa, with most modern bikes having internal cables or hidden ones. It's kinda weird to see the new TCR still have exposed cables. It's something I got used to after a while but it would be nice to have hidden cables :)
Canyon has also this problem. And Giant and Canyon are the only two brands with good price for bike with Ultegra Di2 and high carbon wheels with 7.2kg for entire bike. So if $500-1000 doesn't make any difference then I would go for Trek, Specialized or Scott but I preferred to save that amount of money. However I hit these cables with my leg on uphills and it makes more difficult to hang some bag on front for longer trips >300km. You cannot hang nothing on frame because it's glossy and easily scratchable.
There has been some chatter on the interwebs about some of the internally routes bikes having sluggish response/feel du to the cable housing being crammed into unnatural positions. Seems like perfect setup would be crucial. And when it's not, can you or your LBS handle the solution?
@@pattnwia Do you know your inseam or bb to saddle height? i tried an S size seems so small the fit compared to my other bike. Im 176cm tall with an inseam of 85/84. Saddle height from bb is 73-74
@@WMax-rm3ue yea I think you would be better with a M size. I have shorter legs but I can ride both M and S size , but I like the smaller frame more :)
I am the same height as you with 30" inseam without shoes. im thinking of getting a defy advanced.. looking into medium size but only small is available.. do you think it will be better for me to go small?
Its really hard to say, because it's also personal preference. You might need a longer stem if you were to go with the S size. I'd say, go try out the size S. See if it fits you first and decide if you need the size M
I asked a giant representative about this. They told me it is ok to run a tube if you need to, (maybe to get yourself home) but these wheelset is designed specifically for tubeless setup.
What size is your Giant TCR? I am considering getting one, my height is 165cm with an inseam of 77cm, should I be getting the S size or XS size? Thanks.
Im really confused between this bike vs scott addict rc 15. Need to buy it before monday. Hope someone can help me out. I like speed and climbing. Money isn’t a issue
OOO hard choice !!! Both are very nice bikes. I havent ridden an Scott before so I can't tell you how it rides. But Scott has integrated cockpit, but TCR will definitely be a great choice.
@@pattnwia noo mate, gaint called me today they said delivery is delayed end of this year. So now im going for SCOTT ADDICT RC 10. WHICH is $9400 here.
@@pattnwia you're right. I hit 41km/h yesterday and I was on the 2nd to fastest gear. I had a slight tailwind. If I used the fastest gear I would slow down cause its too hard to peddle. I Weigh 225 lbs. If I was 180 lbs would it be easier to use the fastest gear?
@@jeffreykaufmann2867 Whoot, thats pretty fast !! must have been fun. Yes, if you are lighter you probably accelerate faster. Usually you will feel more of the effects of weight on a climb.
Continental 5000 S TR is compatible with the wheels! I've been using them for 6 months now and everything works great. I asked Giant if I can use the tires and they replied YES, provided that - for my own safety - I do not exceed 5 bars. That is also what Continental recommends. To be honest, 5 bars is ideal pressure. Another thing is that if you load 5 bars your sealant will probably seal your punctured tire. On some occasions I load s little more, around 6 bars. 5 bars is perfect - I tran a lot, race a lot and even win a few races a year, always on 5 bars in my tires.
I own the same bike since March of this year. I have the exact feedback. I think you should replace the Giant tires to the Schwalbe pro one TLE 28mm. When I first got the bike, I switched out the Cadex to Giant 28mm Course 0 tires cause the sales rep said you won't get no puncture. Obviously, after
Sounds like you know what you're talking about !
I too put pro one TLE’s on mine as well. Great tires so far and way lighter per tire vs the stock giant’s that came on mine.
I can't believe the sales rep told you to switch from Cadex tire to the inferior Course 0 tire. I got almost 4.5k on my Cadex 25mm, so far so good, no punctures or cuts. (ofc this is heavily influenced by many factors. Maybe ill try the Schwalbe Pro One TLEs next, but also read that a few people had sidewall latex leaking.
Great video and great insight! I'm looking to get the same bike but hoping to get some sizing advice!! What size do you ride and what's your height/inseam?! I'm not sure if a small would fit me or if it would be too small. Thanks in advance!
did u switch cadex classic or pro ? the stock tires i feel r kinda slow compared to the gp500 almost night n day but not aproved list wich is wack for now
I replaced stock tires with schwalbe pro one TLE 28mm, they’re rolling very smoothly :)
is the swab tle really that much smooth n faster?
Thanks for your video, I have the same bike and here is what I like about it:
Very responsive, comfortable and the general feeling of flawless rides, the fact that it comes with dual sided power meter, carbon rims, carbon handle bar, DI2 group set makes it very competitive on the market with good value!
What I don’t like about it:
Yes the choice of tubeless tires is very limited and I heard there will be more choice in a near future but that was almost a year ago and so far no more choices.
Disk brake rubbing especially on hard braking on descent.
The paint of the frame is beautiful however I found the finish not up to a good standard, and gets very easily scuffed and scratched, I’m not sure if it’s because of the paint or the clear coat quality.
Awesome, yea we share the same thoughts:)
I have the 2021 Advance Pro 1 disc. I swapped the tyres to schwalbe pro one TLE 28mm as I wanted to run lower pressures. This makes the feel of the bike buttery smooth and makes a fast bike feel so much quicker. The one thing I plan to change in the future is my mechanical groupset. I originally ordered the Pro 0 but this was unavailable so brought the pro 1 instead, and to be honest prefer the colour way. Don't get me wrong, ultegra mechanical is brilliant and incredibly crisp, but I just prefer electronic shifting.
Yea totally agree. Mechanical group sets, once they are dialed in. They shift so crisp, but i prefer electric too :D
I also have advanced pro 1 (because pro 0 was unavailable) and changed group set to Di2 the first day. Great bike but electronic gear is amazing. Especially full syncro mode
I totally agree with you about the limited tire selection for this TCR model. Although they're not light weight tires, I really like 28mm Gavia Fondo 0 tubeless tires in conjunction with Dyna plugs. After a couple of puncture holes fixed by Dyna plugs, I put down over 6,000 miles with no flat so far. I'm really impressed with them and that they're quite comfortable to ride, too.
GP5000 S TR tires were released earlier this week! Hookless compatible 🚴
whoot !!
The bulging tire you have described is a big issue for aerodynamics. Basically, if the tire is wider than the rim, all aero benefits of the rim are lost.
Yep!
Giant is Giant in bicycles. No others can argue that! Gaint giving the best bang for the money what they offer from other top expensive brands. Always my fav Bike brand*
Yep agreed !!!
The frameset is quite soft and comfortable. My expectation is that th SL frameset does not share this softness try and hold the front brake and see how much the fork will move under you. Also: jerk the handlebar left to right and notice the flex in the top tube. It’s no worry and this is intended. It does mean that this bike is NOT an all out race bike although it will probably do fine in such settings.
Ahh I see, good info !!
Thanks
I got the TCR Advanced 1 Pro Compact which comes without these flashy wheels and without a powermeter as I wanted to change the cranks to 165mm and not run Giants hookless rims. I bought some 35mm Hunt Aero Wide wheels to give me more tire options and less of a handful in windy conditions being a light weight rider. The bike is great and I got it at a very good price as most people want the powermeter and carbon wheels options. One thing I dislike is the rubber seal at the seatpost junction with the frame, it never seems to sit right.
Oh yeaaa I have that same problem too with the rubber part. It just kinda sits there and never seals tight, I have to constantly adjust it 🙃
Haha I constantly have the same problem on my Defy from 2015. Sometimes it fits for motnehs, sometimes it's a pain this rubber thingy.
Have a 2021 TCR Advanced upgraded to this Pro 0 spec! You could shrink wrap the Di2 cable and the rear hydraulic brake line together for a cleaner look.
Thanks for the tip!! I've actually seen ppl do that, and it looks much cleaner
Thanks !!
If you’re worried about scratches, just put on Paint protection films like Ridewraps or Invisframe.
I own TCR 2020 advanced with 105 groupset
I hate the giant tubeless tire first ride i got flat already
I replaced it with gp5000 big difference
Overall great bike
Great, honest review, thanks. I went all in on tubeless a couple years ago, loved it, preached it until I fell out of love due to the mess and (in my opinion), upkeep hassle. That, and the hookless rims are kind of a turn off for me, even as I’m very close to making the decision to get this bike too.
Yea tubeless is troublesome at times. It's a love hate relationship
Super nice bike, I love the color! I hope you get more tire choice in the future. I own a TCR advanced 1 from 2018 with a Scope r4c wheelset. After 10.000km, still like new. Luckily without hookles rims, so more tire choice. I love how it rides and the steering is super precise. But, the color of yours is so much better than my black/orange one. Enjoy it en don't sell unless you are very sure you make an upgrade. This bike is so much value for the money.
I got my giant tcr advanced pro 1 and upgraded the wheels to cadex 42 with schwalbe pro 25mm tubeless tire! Yes I love it
awesome :D
Cadex wheels are a blast to ride
Shcwalbe pro 1 is on the list. I run 28mm pirelli p zero race SL tlr. It's not on the giant list but works great 👍 a lot of people run the gp5000 even though it's on the fail list. They work but just means if they fail it's on you not giant and the reason for failure is that the tire can come off with higher pressures.
From giant's website: Please be aware that if you choose to use a tire with an indicated maximum pressure above 72.5psi (5 bar) that is not on the list of tires that have passed the Giant test protocol, YOU DO SO AT YOUR OWN RISK, as the tire may not function properly with the Giant hookless WheelSystem.
Please note that if the maximum pressure indicated on the sidewall of a tire is below 72.5psi (5 bar), the tire is tubeless compatible, and is not indicated as being incompatible with hookless rims, it can be used with Giant hookless WheelSystems and does not have to appear on the ¨What Tires Can I Use" chart...
Hi Paul, I saw that too on the website. I ordered the same bike and I am used to riding Pirelli 28 mm tires at this time (i love the ridefeel and grip). I expect my giant to be delivered in October. I just wanted to ask if these tires at 28mm don't bulge too much from the rims of the slr1 wheels? I see that the 26mm tires are not hookless compatible.
Got mine about a year ago. Tires are the worst, got my first puncture within the first month and it won't seal. Just got serviced last week because the bb was creaking and I changed the rear tire to schwalbe pro. Can't wait for this weekend to try it.
I really don't like hookless but manufacturers are pushing it for the new models, such as zipp 303s or enve AR series. Hope continental would update their tubeless to be compatible for hookless rims.
Yeaa!! My first puncture was like 3 weeks too... hookless seems dangerous but they are pushing it sooo hope they know what they are doing :/
Nice review of the TCR, I recently picked up a second hand 2018 Propel Advanced Pro Disc, love it as well. Your review makes me want to get a TCR as well. Keep up the great content!
Thank you :)
Yea the Propel is nice !! very fast !!
The new 2022 TCR looks nice, i love the new colors
@@pattnwia You have the best hub sound reaction.
@@creative907 hahah thanks~ !!
I bought this 2021 TCR Advanced pro 0 and and I love it. However, it didn't take me long to find that the Cadex tires are the worst tires I have ever owned. I have gone with the Continental 5000's and they are amazing.
yep totally agree with you on the Cadex.
huge disappointment
I'm watting for mine🙏🙏 3 weeks. Thanks for tour videos
3 weeks !!! almost here :D
bet your super excited !
You're lucky. I'm waiting on same bike since August last year 🤔
I just bought this bike. It’s amazing.
awesome !! Congrats on your new bike :D
Have the same bike as well, already switched to the schwalbe pro one's in 28mm as well.
Another friend has the same bike and has done so as well, the stock tires are horrible and get punctured super easily.
Nice seeing you at the bike event yesterday, hopefully you got some footage for your next video!
Hey nice seeing you too !!! The races were so epic !!
@@pattnwia how is the free hub so long? Is that Changable or is that from factory based on bike?
@@JitinMisra yep, that sound is all stock from factory
I'm running a Di2 DA SL 0. Giant tyres are ghastly and their tubeless rim tech is crap as it leaks air way too fast (my TCR, my wife's Liv and my Revolt). At the time of buying the bikes I had assumed buying top tier bikes would come with decent tyres .. so I bought a supply of them - HUGE mistake. I've never had any issues with my Specialised or Mavic tubeless systems so I didn't expect Giant's to be so bad. I'm about to fit Schwabs even though I still have some Gavias left and I hope the result retains air a bit better.
Partly a Shimano issue but I'd like tidier cabling ... a TCR with the new 12speed wireless DA would be nice!
I don't have an issue with the rim dimensions. Anything that gives you aero benefits would be a good thing but ofter that'll come with a weight penalty.
Scratches on your bike is the biggest compliment you can give it. In the end of the day its a tool to get u from point A to B.
Thanks for the review and what a beautiful bike it is! You would not recommend tubeless for longer rides, say 100-150km when you are out in the wild? Can you easily put a tube in in case of malfunctions?
Yes you can , but keep in mind sealant would be all over the place
Good review 👍 I'm glad you didn't just list off parts and manufacturers jargon and call it a review 😀👍👌
Thanks :) glad my content is helpful
yea paint is nice, disc stop with less effort, electronic shifting shifter better, tires suck, free wheel sound i like, had a faster pinarello before this, make us glad to hear.
Nice Patt had this on Order since last October. It was firstly supposed to arrive last April then but back to July/August and now end of October. Asked my LBS if they can contact Giant and see if I can get anything with the new Ultegra 12Speed instead. If not Id still be cool getting this one. Might as well ask though. Good review man.
Yea GL GL
I hope they upgrade you to the 12 sp. My buddy at his bike shop says that because of shortages of 11sp ultegra, they are shipping new bikes with the upgraded 12 Sp, so fingers crossed. You might have to pay the difference in price?? But that will depend on what your LBS says. Keep me posted :)
thanks !
@@pattnwia hope so too man. I got in there with the question pretty quick and had a deposit down for a year and stuck with them. 12spd would be great along with that bike. I've got a bit more to spend if needed it will be worth it.
I'm a Giant fan, 1 thing that has stopped me from buying a TCR Disc are the cables, WHY WHY are they not internal such as the new Propel, so only 1 dislike, otherwise best looking bike on the road, I currently have 4 Giants in my house hold and loving them.
I know right?! i 100% agree with you !!
May I ask which area are you living in? The place shown in your video is beautiful!
Thank you, I live in Vancouver Canada
I been wondering how much does this model weigh? Giant doesn’t have any weight on their websites. You have a great bike!!!
Thank you!
Thank you, I have the full review of this bike on my channel. I can't remember the exact weight but 7.XX KG if i remember correctly...
Cadex Race tiers are good for me 1700km no puncture, rolling very fast. BUT. Still waiting for first puncture, to buy Schwalbe Pro One 25mm. ;)
Hahaha hopefully you won't get a puncture too fast 😅
Thanks for this video. I have the same bike except i changed mine to SRAM FORCE AXS. Love the bike. 😊😊
Great review, thanks
Hi, nice review and i like it! Probably it is better IMHO, to put a little flying texts when you mention the main point of like/dislike. Some people are in situation where you can access to TH-cam, but you have to have phone silent but too lazy to grab a headset.
Anyhow, i owned also TCR the lower version with 105 groupset. Although it is different, for the 1 year usage, which part of the bike did you change / upgrade? Or you put the factory standard as it is? Thank you! 👍🏾
Thanks for the tip, I'll be sure to add text next time. My TCR is stock but they did give me a carbon handlebar instead of the aluminum one that was supposed to be spec ed
@@pattnwia great! I have used the TCR more than 2000 km with stock parts but so far so good. Just wondering why people around me like to ask about upgrade when the stock part is enough. Thanks for the response btw. Keep it up! 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
@@nibelungvalestiii yea giant does a really good job with the finishing kit. Nothing much to upgrade :)
Vancouver! Beautiful place to ride!
Yes !!! agreed :)
Mine is so loud too!!!! I hate it.... I Have a 2021 but slightly different spec... It has the Ultegra but mechanical, and with a 105 cassette and an unnamed crank?!?!?! I think it rolls great straight out of the box, no real bike specific problems. Light enough, agile enough and strong enough, great all round bike for the money :-) I have only ridden a few thousand kms so far though but think it will last well....
yep, TCR are great bikes :)
Amazing bike and awesome video. Would you mind sharing your height, size of the bike, stem length? Thanks in advance for the response.
Hi, I am 175cm tall. Bike is size 52 and stem length is 100mm
I made a full review on this bike, you can check it out on my channel. Hope the info helps !
@@pattnwia Small or medium size TCR??
@@83tripathysantosh small
Thank you so much for the feedback. i have the very same bike but in size XS. I did not have the chance to try the size small (S) as it was not available at Giant Vancouver when I bought it a year ago. I just went ahead with XS being the only size left. I am exactly 164.5 cm. Do you think I should have ordered and waited for the size S or I've got the best fit? Thank you :)
I think you got a good fit :) I have a friend who is 169 cm and he just got a trek emonda in size 50cm. You can also check out the newest video on my channel. I rode his bike and it was too small for me.
I am your height and bought the xs , I think is should have gone with a small. I recently swapped the stem out for a longer one it helped a lot
I ended up getting this model but really wish giant offered the framset only option. My plan was to transfer the drivetrain/components to the TCR if the frame was available. The bike is still sweet though!
🙋🏻♂️ Hello neighbor. Nice ride👍
I am ride tubeless from 2017 and my personal preference with my slr0 is Hutchinson tires I really recommend
Thanks for the honest review. Because of the hookless wheel setup I’m guessing a regular clincher non tubeless tire, for backup, won’t work (if I have to swap out in an emergency as when the tubeless no longer sealing after a leak or puncture on a ride). Please advise.
You can bring a regular tube, it will still work with the wheelset at least to get you home. After can switch back to tubeless
@@pattnwia thanks, my experience with regular clincher tires is that it needs a rim hook to properly seal which hookless don’t provide, and that according to technical journals I just read now the tire can blow off the rim especially when enough pressure builds up either on a sweeping descent where the full weight of the rider with the high acceleration of the downhill speed come into play.
@@noels8817 ahhh yes that is a possibility, kinda scary if you think about it 🤔
Giant says that they are safe to use.... but I donoooo loool
@@pattnwia this means if you encounter an irreparable flat (hole won’t get sealed because of size or sidewall placement) you’ll be stuck in the boonies cuz the backup clincher won’t be compatible with the hookless rim.
@@noels8817 well I've seen someone use the gp5000s which are not on the approved tire list
im guessing its 17lbs about? thats not too light. and tires have to be the most cost effective upgrade to a bike so that sux you cant get better ones to help you go faster. that pina with da was prolly closer to 15lbs
There is nothing wrong with the Schwalbe Pro One tires. They really are in the same league as the Conti GP5000 tires. About the tubeless tires. Giant does not do anything wrong. The tire manufactures should make the tires really good tubeless and in this case fit to be set on a hookless rim. Actually I think it's a good thing that Giant has a list of "approved" tubles tires. It's now up to the manufacturers to improve the tubeless tires. I think the Giant Advanced Pro 0 or 1 are excellent bikes. Maybe the best bikes that money could buy. In your review I miss the the remarks about how good this bikes rides and how good it steers. What about the new short nose saddle? These new Giant fleet saddels are quite good. So yeah, a good review, but it lacks quite many others aspects of quality bike. Maybe it's something you could emphasize in another review. A good bike is all about handling an steering and not the sound of the wheels.
What is the Frame size
size 52 (S)
I’ve got the pro disc 1, I run 26 Pirelli P zero tyres and they are so much better. I can run up to 30mm comfortably but yea after that the wheel runs a little narrow. Not a issue for me as I won’t run more than that anyway.
Is it the pro 1 disc 2021 with hookless rims you got?
@@adsali03 yes it is
Awesome review! Thinking of getting this! Have you ever tried fitting some slim gravel/cross tires on this for fun? :D
Thanks!!
I have not, but sounds like a fun time, defos gonna try it out :)
Both your best and worst points were about the wheels, you know you can change them, you don't need to change the whole bike
Giant should launch a new tcr fork and spacers allowing cable integration
Totally agree!!! Maybe the next tcr will have
So that it weakens the fork/steerer and they have to do a recall like Specialized with the Tarmac SL7? Function and reliability before looks, for me.
I am in the marketing getting a TCR or Propel....do you happened to have friends owned 2021/2022 Propel? would love to hear what you think between TCR vs Propel.
Hey, I did a video on a propel as well, hope that helps you out !
@@pattnwia didn't know that! Gonna go check! Thank you!
When it goes internal cable routing.. I’ll buy it
Probably next gen. Maybe next year
@@pattnwia the frame set itself is great value for money
@@khairunsyazwin yes totally!! The SL version is sooo stiff, love it 😀
Hello!
I am in MTB for almost 2 years and I am converting to road bikes....What do you think about Giant Tcr Advanced 2016 model?
- Is it good for beginners?
- What is the perfect size for 1.78 cm Height?
- Can I do packaging with the bike
How high is your saddle from the BB ? Nice review btw :]
Thanks, it's around 70 cm
go for Schwabe Pro One, 25, 28c works
Between Emonda & TCR , which one you would choose. Thanks
I still prefer tcr :)
Hi! Great looking bike. What is your saddle height from center of bb to top of saddle? Thanks.
Best bike of all time
Very nice bike. I've been wanting to have one. What is your height? For reference.
Hey, im 175cm tall
@@pattnwia I'm 170, I would probably go for XS.
@@AriestocrataStudio ye, make sure to give it a test ride if possible. Everyones got different proportions and preferences.
Yup great bike
If that was mine I would’ve sold the wheels in the very beginning! Don’t want hookless and don’t like being forced to use Giant, maxxis or schwalbe tyres all of which I don’t rate at all! I do like the tcr platform though!
Schwable pro 1 evo tubeless tires are among the best tires available imo...
Hello, i am kind of in between sizes of medium and medium/large, would you recommend sizing up or sizing down?
I would always recommend sizing down.
A smaller size would allow more room for adjustments. I would try both and see which one you prefer, then get a second opinion from your local bike shop experts.
Hope that helps :)
Which Pinarello did you have? Thinking of upgrading to the Prince soon.
Is that a small size? What's your height and inseam?
Height is 175 and inseam Is 77cm
@@pattnwia did you consider M
@@brody5211 I did, my first TCR was a size M and I prefer the S size
@@pattnwia more flickable
Great vid
Thanks
You can polish the paint and the white stratches go away
sounds good :) thanks!
I have the same bike, the same color, etc. It's the best price for kind of equipment but I don't like in this bike many things: glossy frame can be easily scratched, I hit cables outside with my leg on uphills, noisy rear wheel, compatible tires only from Cadex (very expensive) or Schwalbe (I hate them), gray Giant logo instead of white, some knocking from bottom bracket or frame (PressFit is bad idea). I bought it only because it was available within 2 weeks in comparison to 4 months in another brands. Price also better and power meter included. So this choice saved my season 2021 because old bike has been broken but in general I would like to buy shortly something else. I forgot also to mention about noisy disc brakes especially in a rain (still fighting with that to make it silence).
Are you considering to selling it? 😅
@@sktang7145 Yes, I'm thinking about it but weak availability of another bikes stops me.
@@abogdzie sorry to hear about your unhappiness with my favourite bike model. I have one but the advance model. Only the initial bite from the brakes made some noise from mine, apart from that, totally enjoying it. If you don’t mind sharing, why do you hate the schwable tires ? Hope your next bike will be better.
@@sktang7145 It was only cold analysis. I like this bike and I’m going to eliminate all negative aspects. It’s still great bike especially for this price in comparison to other brands.
You are right about the value, guess no bike is perfect. Have a great weekend
GP5000 are the best tires, period!
What’s the colour of this bike?
its called Chameleon neptune, basically a shiny blue
Thanks for your video. May I ask how height are you and what is the size of this bike? Thanks
size small, i am 175 cm
How tall are u? I’m in between two sizes and would love your thoughts on high tabs size.
I'm 175 cm tall with a 75 cm inseam. I can ride both the small and the medium frame. So it really depends on preference. I suggest trying both sizes in person and go from there.
@@pattnwia you’re longer in torso substantially so ?
@@brody5211 ya I think so
im curious would u prefer the trek emonda or the giant tcr? just based on the ride feel and experience
Hey Marcus, I personally like the TCR more
The compact frame makes the ride feel more quick and snappy
@@pattnwia thanks bro
How do you compare the TCR to your old Pinarello in term of weight, stiffness, maintain top speed, etc. ?
I think the Pinarello is still the faster bike. I haven't been able to beat my mountain climb PRs with my TCR, set by the pinarello. :P
The pinarello had better wheels, i would say. Overall everything is better/faster for the Pinarello.
@@pattnwia Thanks for reply. I guess you get what you pay for. But TCR is a good bike nevertheless.
@@Saltydog547 Yes correct :D
Hi,
do you know if the new TCR advanced pro disc 0 2022 has the same rims ?
yep, same rims
do you still have the da pinarello? prolly a rim brake too, that bike is faster than your giant
Yea that bike is faster, but i dont have that bike anymore :/
@@pattnwia u shuda kept it and made this ur gravel bike
@@timtaylor9590 yeaaaaa... kinda sad now.. but owell :P
you are totally wrong about wider rims and tyres being more aero . they offer more comfort that"t it
Can you lend me 5k so i can get one?
Would have like to know what do you think about the fact that the cables cannot be internalized.
Yeaa, with most modern bikes having internal cables or hidden ones. It's kinda weird to see the new TCR still have exposed cables. It's something I got used to after a while but it would be nice to have hidden cables :)
Canyon has also this problem. And Giant and Canyon are the only two brands with good price for bike with Ultegra Di2 and high carbon wheels with 7.2kg for entire bike. So if $500-1000 doesn't make any difference then I would go for Trek, Specialized or Scott but I preferred to save that amount of money. However I hit these cables with my leg on uphills and it makes more difficult to hang some bag on front for longer trips >300km. You cannot hang nothing on frame because it's glossy and easily scratchable.
@@abogdzie agreed :)
There has been some chatter on the interwebs about some of the internally routes bikes having sluggish response/feel du to the cable housing being crammed into unnatural positions. Seems like perfect setup would be crucial. And when it's not, can you or your LBS handle the solution?
the only think I disk like it disk breaks on road bikes think its over kill and makes the road bike look less ataractic
What's the weight of your TCR?
7.65 kg
Is it size s? And whats the crank arm length?
Size S, and 170 for crank arms
Could the loudness in the hub be attributed to lesser grease in the FHB of the rear wheel after one year of riding ?
No, it is like this from day 1
Giant have a tendency to have insufficient grease on their bikes. Ive got 2, and both needed extra greasing of their hubs.
@@pattnwia yes, but you can service them or let them serviced. Loudness usually comes from less grease. Many people do it intentionally.
Try the cadex tyres a lot better than giant gavia 👍
Very expensive ~$100 for one and I used my own totally within 2600km only! The most expensive business I've ever had.
What size is your bike? and how tall are you if i may ask?
size 52 and I am 175 cm tall, you can check out the full review on my page
@@pattnwia Do you know your inseam or bb to saddle height? i tried an S size seems so small the fit compared to my other bike. Im 176cm tall with an inseam of 85/84. Saddle height from bb is 73-74
If I would be you I would get a bigger frame, you look a bit crammed in there
Squirtle is the best part
Thanks :)
3:22 hey UBC!
Yep thats right !!
May i ask what size is it and how tall are you? Thabks
Yea for sure, I'm 175 cm tall and this is a size small (52)
@@pattnwia thanks, did you do bike fitting for that? Coz i am 180cm tall, and i was told to get a size M (based on my inseam length only)
@@WMax-rm3ue yea I think you would be better with a M size. I have shorter legs but I can ride both M and S size , but I like the smaller frame more :)
@@pattnwia thanks a lot! Subbed :)
@@WMax-rm3ue thank youuu :)
what do you do to buy these expensive ass bikes man
Bearing noise !
I am the same height as you with 30" inseam without shoes. im thinking of getting a defy advanced.. looking into medium size but only small is available.. do you think it will be better for me to go small?
Its really hard to say, because it's also personal preference. You might need a longer stem if you were to go with the S size.
I'd say, go try out the size S. See if it fits you first and decide if you need the size M
Can you run with tubes (or clincher) with those hookless rim (using giant proved tubeless tyres) ?
Im just wondering if that is safe to do so…
I asked a giant representative about this. They told me it is ok to run a tube if you need to, (maybe to get yourself home) but these wheelset is designed specifically for tubeless setup.
What size is your Giant TCR? I am considering getting one, my height is 165cm with an inseam of 77cm, should I be getting the S size or XS size? Thanks.
Mine is size S and I am 175 cm tall. I think S should be ok
I'm as short as you with a slightly higher inseam (77.8 cm) and I'd take Size XS, Size S feels too long for me.
Hi. Is the frame the same with Advanced 2?
Hi yes it is. There is the SL frame and the non SL frame.
Im really confused between this bike vs scott addict rc 15. Need to buy it before monday. Hope someone can help me out. I like speed and climbing. Money isn’t a issue
OOO hard choice !!! Both are very nice bikes.
I havent ridden an Scott before so I can't tell you how it rides. But Scott has integrated cockpit, but TCR will definitely be a great choice.
@@pattnwia I’ve booked new giant tcr advanced 0 AR(2022). ITS COMING NEXT WEEK. 😀 thanks heaps for your reply.
@@parteek4313 congrats on your new bike !!!
@@pattnwia noo mate, gaint called me today they said delivery is delayed end of this year. So now im going for SCOTT ADDICT RC 10. WHICH is $9400 here.
@@parteek4313 o 0 Thats so expensive !!!! :(
Is there a purpose In it being so loud?
Some people like the sound. I think it is just by design. It can be quiet as well. I think it is similar to a sports car sounding loud.
@@pattnwia I own a 20.5lb Carbon Hybrid. How fast could you go on such a bike?
@@jeffreykaufmann2867 Hi i think on the flats you can probably hit 40km/h ??
@@pattnwia you're right. I hit 41km/h yesterday and I was on the 2nd to fastest gear. I had a slight tailwind. If I used the fastest gear I would slow down cause its too hard to peddle. I Weigh 225 lbs. If I was 180 lbs would it be easier to use the fastest gear?
@@jeffreykaufmann2867 Whoot, thats pretty fast !! must have been fun.
Yes, if you are lighter you probably accelerate faster. Usually you will feel more of the effects of weight on a climb.
Weight of bike?
7.65 Kg
@@pattnwia isn't your bodyweight a more important factor then the weight of the bike when cycling uphill?
@@jeffreykaufmann2867 Yes, that is correct. But its always good to know the weight of the bike too
How much did the bike cost you ?
What state do you live in ?
CAD 6700$
@@pattnwia Thank you !
May I ask the retail price you bought this at ? Thanks!
I think it is 6700$
We should ride sometime in Vancouver:)
@@pattnwia Yes, we should! Just completing the TLD registration now. Been busy pre-ordering my next bike lol
@@JC-pt2tw oh nice !!! Say hi to me when your on the slack chat :)