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2021 Giant TCR advanced pro 0 disc review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ส.ค. 2024
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A overview and review on the all new 2021 Giant TCR advanced pro 0 disc
The all new TCR is stiffer, lighter and more aerodynamic than the outgoing model. It is a really beautiful bike, and I am very glad to share it with all of you guys :)
Specs:
Shimano Ultegra Di2 11-speed electronic R8050 groupset
Cassette: Shimano Ultegra, 11x30
Crankset: Shimano Ultegra, 36/52with Giant PowerPro power meter
Rims: Giant SLR-1 42 Carbon Disc WheelSystem
Shimano Ultegra hydraulic disc brakes
Advanced-grade composite frame with Variant composite seatpost
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I LOVE how you did a free hub sound check at the very beginning!
Yeah !!! Thats something that i always want to hear first so I did it for you guys too !!
I also have a longer freehub clip on my channel, feel free to check that one out too!!
Thank you, I just bought one and your review gave me that extra little incentive to do it. Had three races on it so far and I love it !!!
Wow ! congrats on your new bike !!
Im glad my video helped you out :)
Yes, my steerer tube needs to be chopped off!! Im still getting used to the fit of the bike, so i will chop it off within a week
Also i say "so" alot in this video, so please excuse that :)
other than that, please enjoy !!! and let me know if you guys have any questions about the bike.
steer tube*
@Steve King too late!! ahhaha
Hi
Im 178cm with 82cm inseam, should i gor S or M you reckon? Thanks before.
Gus
@@aguswahyudi710 Hey, maybe a M would be better. My legs are shorter so I went for the S size
@@pattnwia hi patt. Do you mind if i ask your measurement from bb to saddle is how many cm? I'm planning to get S instead of M. 😁
Patt I enjoy your bike reviews. Keep going man!
Patt nice review man. Do more if you can. I ordered one blind yesterday. I had a go on a 2020 version and loved it. New ones going to be even better. I'm currently riding a cube nu Road pro 2018 alloy cross bike with 105 so I know it's a huge step up. Can't wait to ride this, I have to wait till April though till I actually get it. Keep up the good work bro.
Thanks man,
congrats on your new bike !! April will be the perfect time to snag up some KOMs on your new bike !!
Dream bike😍hopefully I get it some times soon👍🏼great video as it’s just what I wanted to see!
thanks :)
Thank you so much for doing this review I had no idea the 2021 edition had all those updates!.
:D glad you found it helpful !
7,65kg with pedals, bottle cages, dual sided powermeter, GPS mount, specialized saddle (heavy) and a Wahoo (Can be seen at 6:54?)?!?! Very competitive I'd say. Thank you for the review. Btw. The flat back of the seatpost also increase the inherent ability for the post to flex too = better comfort.
Good observation. Yep you got it all correct :)
Thanks !! glad you found my review helpful. Good info on the seatpost as well, i didn't know that :)
I have the 2020 KOM version. Really like this bike a lot especially for the climbing work. Did swap the wheels and put them on my aero bike. Have put lightweight carbon 30 mm wheels on the bike now that really suit this bike.
Nice video dude, thanks for the heads up.
Best value high end bike out there. I just wish they had internal cable routing at the front and an aero bar. I think you will see the next generation do this as bike companies merge their aero and climbing bikes as Specialized did with the Tarmac.
Excellent review. Thanks!
I went tubeless 2 1/2 years ago on both my Cross and road bike.
Smooth as butter baby! I carry both Stan’s Dart and Dyna plugs and have yet to be stranded .
You're straightforward and honest , your good !
Thanks
Thanks. Useful review 👍
Just ordered this bad boy today. Got a good deal since my Emonda was delayed until December 2021. Can't wait!
Congrats !!!!
Where are you located? What deal did you get? Very surprised to hear any deal since all bikes for 2021 are practically sold out or in very short supply.
great review mate - cheers
Thank you! Cheers!
Hey patt, i really enjoyed your review. Very comprehensive and informative. Also well presented!
In regards to the aero performance, how would this bike compare to say, a propel? is it night and day or are the differences negligible?
i am going to visit my local giant shop and order this one on friday but i still worry about the aero differences....Do you think the current crop of models are ever gaining on their aero bike counterparts?
Hi, thanks :) im glad my video helped you out. To answer your question, newer bikes are becoming more aero. Before it was a clear difference between light weight climbing bikes and full aero bikes. Now the lightweights like the TCR are becoming more aero, but still wont be as aero as the full aero bikes (propel). The new Specialized tarmac is essentially a Venge. You will be able to tell the differences. On flats you can easily feel the propel will be faster, but the TCR will be better for climbing, so it really depends on what you ride more. I would suggest test riding both the TCR and the Propel to see which one you like more. I tried the propel and didnt really like it, so i went with the TCR. Congrats on your bike btw !!
Nice job!
Good review keep it up!
thanks :D
That’s the nicest of the disc TCRs for 2021!
Tremenda bicicleta... hermoso color, geometría polivalente, excelente máquina, saludos desde Colombia 🇨🇴
Thanks for the good explanation!
Glad it was helpful!
For bigger tubeless holes which the sealant does not fix try Stans Dart which plugs the holes and then forms new rubber. It actually works.
oh yes i saw that, I actually got it a few days ago too just in case of future punctures
thanks !
I had problems with my Giant Revolt Maxis tires not being robust enough. I’ve had two punctures and that latex spraying all over does make a hell of a mess.
Great job
I'm hoping for the Pro 0, but my budget might limit me to the Pro 1, although here in flat south Louisiana, I prefer rim brakes to disc. But that blue is so nice looking on that bike. Good review, thanks..
How had the bike held up? An issues?
Hey, thanks for the comments !
The Pro 1 is pretty nice in black too!!
The bike is good, no problems since the tubeless tire in my video
Muito top Giant e meu sonho de consumo!!
I have the same bike as yours on order, and I can't wait until it comes in. Great overview! Can you tell me if the rear derailleur that comes with the bike is the long cage (GS), or short cage version?
Thanks !!
It is short cage version
Great video, mine is also ordered and it's coming in october 😔
For your scratch if you don't feel it with your nail you can buff it out with polish compound.
Tip: ceramic coat the Paint: stronger and easier cleaning. More info see TH-cam videos or go to a local cardetailer 😉
Nice !! congrats :)
is it the same color and model as mine??
Ahh thanks for the tips, ill give it a try tomorrow
@@pattnwia
Yes exactly te same pro O ordered it 1 month ago but due Corona giant has a giant back order...
My first upgrade would be dura ace disc i like the black details 😎
For ceramic coatings brands: gyeon, cquartz uk, nanolex, igl, ...
@@brunobergs6401 yea !! the black discs look so much cooler !! fits the look of the bike
Great video bro. I have one on order that got delayed. Only difference is they bring the KOM version into my country, which I am quite happy about as where I ride is very hilly.
Ordered a size Small as well, 1.70m tall. Glad to see you are even taller than me on a Small as I ride Mediums in MTB and was a bit concerned about the size.
As has been mentioned I would like to change to Dura Ace discs.
Also every video of this bike I have seen has SLR bars so I guess it must indeed be listed incorrectly on the websites.
yea, at first i thought the bike shop made a mistake and gave me upgraded handlebars. haha, but turns out all the TCR pro 0 had them.
congrats on the bike, and hope you get lots of KOMS!!
About the size i'm 1,76 and the sales guy insisted i should get the M which streached me a little on the bike.. i noticed later on there weren't any size S i could try in the shop. Do they adjust the steem lenght or do i have to buy a new one myself? Thanks
@@Jamess92 Hi, they should be able to swap out an appropriate stem for you before you purchase for free. But this depends on the bike shop. Mine swapped it out for me :)
Very nice choice. I have a 2017 Specialize Roubaix Comp and just love the endurance geometry of it. I can ride it for hours. BUT!!! I been looking for a climbing bike and this 2021 Giant TCR might be it. How does it handles the hills?
Its amazing!! super stiff bike, im sure you will like it
I love this bike. I recently got a large. Its very snappy and great uphills. It also came with giants cadence/speed sensor which pairs with the wahoo element easily. It loves to go 40k/hr on the flats. I believe the electronic shifters can be set to automatically shift.
YEAH !! this bike is a blast to ride, I love cornering on this bike, its so direct and easy to handle
@@pattnwia what does automatically shift means?
@@Lautaro_Guindulain Hey, it is like when you shift the front chain into the big ring, the back will automatically shift down to make it similar gearing. It can all be adjusted in the DI2 App
@@pattnwia wow! Thanks for that. I think you already did a video on this. I’ll review your channel. Loved the videos !
@@Lautaro_Guindulain Really appreciate your comments and support, thanks :D
congrats on the new bike. comparison video with the new Emonda would be nice.
try nail polish for that scratch.
ah good idea !
ill give it a try, thanks.
ahh i havent seen one in person myself yet, but my friend test rode it and says it feels very similar to his current emonda
Or just some car wax will help cover the scratch cosmetically. If you want a more permanent fix, consider getting car polish (e.g. Meguiar's Scratch X). Nail polish might be overkill if the scratch doesn't penetrate all the way through the clear coat. Just a thought.
Nice bike mate!
Thanks !
Good review, I just purchased the same bike and absolutely love it. One question tho, I have the Wahoo element roam and I can't get it to see the wattage from the power meter. It's charged so I'm wondering if there is a step in missing.. any thoughts?
Add new sensor on Wahoo. After few crank spin, wahoo should find power meter sensor. Try with Giants phone app to find power meter via BT.
I'm also goint to buy this bike, but estimated delivery time in Europe is 4-10 week of 2021.
@@bartoszbruhn4577 ok thank you I'll try again tomorrow
The sound check was crazy
YEAHH !! love it !
My dream bike 😤
Planning to get 1 from spez sl6
Can you adjust the seat height? On older models you had to cut the seat tube and that is a non starter for me.
Yes you can, only the TCR advanced SL versions require you to cut the seat tube
😍 the sound at 0:20 *sends to John on replay*
Yo that looked like Whytecliff and UBC :-) Congrats on the bike! How long did it take from placing the order to you getting hold of the bike?
yep your right !! UBC and Whytecliff, good observation :)
They have this bike in stock right now, at both Giant vancouver, and at More bikes UBC
I got mine at more bikes UBC location, talk to Guilimo, just mention my name :)
Patts Bikes Thanks bud! Will check it out. Your review is really thorough, so keep it up!!
I love this bike and I really want to have it even though I already had one Cervelo R5 road bike,
Cervelo R5 is really good!!
i really like the S5 too
I rode one of these on a trainer today at the LBS. I think I'm in love.
awesome, are you getting one??
@@pattnwia yeah i think so
@@john_p congrats dude!
I’m trying to find one here in the UK..
Great review! Question though: why did you chose to go with a small sized frame given you are 175 cm? I’m that height as well as was thinking a medium would work best for me? Thanks!
Thanks, so.. i am kinda in a middle spot where both the S and M can fit me, so it comes down to preference. Before buying the bike, i tried both M and S sizes and found that i liked the Small size more. i like the more aggressive position from the shorter head stack on the S size. The smaller size will be lighter and more nimble compared to the M. So seeing that i fit on both sizes, the Small size will give me more performance. Oh i also swapped the stem to a 100mm stem (original one was 90mm for the S)
hope that helps!
Patts Bikes yep that makes sense! I wish I could test ride the bike before purchase but none of the bike shops in Calgary even have the 2021 model in stock. Oh well.
@@ericmagee9054 oh you can test ride the current 2020 models. the geometry of the bike didnt change :)
Patts Bikes good idea! Thanks!!
Hello, nice video, I going to buy Di2 version in near future. I have question about BT and ANT+ modul for Di2. Is it pre instaled by Ginat or have to buy it separately. I mean Shimano EW-WU111 module to connect to phone app or program shifter buttons to move Wahoo pages.
Mine didnt come with the BT module, but giant should install everything for you before you buy the bike. Maybe you can request it, and they can install it for you
Patts Bikes i know how to update. Just replice connectot under handlebar with this d-fly unit. Just plug and play and you get full info about your gears on wahoo/garmin.
Nice review. Love the color. My older Cervelo R3 is about the same size and 15 lbs. The Di2, disc brakes and wheels may be adding weight.
The R3 maxes out at 23mm front and 25mm rear so looking to upgrade so something that takes wider tires.
Wonder if the aero on the TCR would make up for the additional weight?
Uhhh it might, the TCR is still a climbing bike that is more aerodynamic. so depends on what your looking for, but the TCR is definitely fast and very stiff !!
The current Cervelo R3 Ultegra Di2 disc is 7.39kg with pedals. So very similar weight to this TCR. New aero frames with disc is generally heavier than older less aero frames on rim brakes in this category. (Note that the author of this video swapped in the Gravia tyres, which adds a total of 200g to the weight). This TCR weights 7.15kg stock, without pedals.
I'm seriously considering pulling the trigger on this bike. Have you had any issues with stem compatibility / OD2 steerer? I really wish Giant with drop the proprietary parts....
I haven't had any issues because i just use the Giant SL stem. Only issue i had was a steerer cap i got from the Trek cycling challenge, doesn't fit on the OD2 oversized steerer tube.
other than that, amazing bike :)
Wondering if your disc brakes ever made squeaky noise when braking? I don’t know how to get rid of it on my new giant
it does !! its just the nature of disc brakes. It gets better over time as you ride more.
is the carbon wheels hookless clincher compatible for other tire brand?
So far its just giant tires and schwalbe
Bike review done right
Freehub soundcheck right off the start
Thanks :)
Have you had any problems with disc squeal/rub? Are hydraulic disc more maintenance?
Disc rub yes.. but it can be fixed with just a small adjustment. Compared to rim brakes, its more complicated when changing the fluid or brake pads. Rim brakes are super easy to maintain. Cable disk brakes are the worst tho, wouldnt recommend
had thought like this bike frame is to small for you is this frame smaller then recommended?
I feel this size is ok for me, I am 175, which is on the edge of a S and M. I went for small because I felt it was a better fit for me, i have shorter legs
Great review. What i’m very curious about is how 2022 trek emonda sl6 etap would compare to this bike. Not a single soul in the whole world reviewed that bike yet let alone a comparison with tcr advanced pro 0. You might be able to do that maybe:) thumbs up
*rubbing in the brakes, oh my:-o
sounds good, ill try to get my hands on one. Bike shortage is a real pain
Hey Patt, I have on order the same bike as you. I am in vancouver and I am wondering what tire you are using and where did you get them? would love to chat with you
yea sure, follow me on my IG @pattsbikes and shoot me a message :)
You think a 173 cm guy with 28" inseam is good for small or XS?
I think small will be good
Xs is really really small
Hey Patt, have you tried updating the Power Pro firmware via Giant's Ridelink app? Can't seem to connect to the bike with android or iphone. Is this necessary to connect to a bike computer?
Hey, yes to get power readings on your wahoo or garmin, you need to connect the wahoo/garmin to the power meter. I use an android and had no problems connecting and updating firmware via the ride link App. Try restarting your device or spin the cranks a few times to power it on :)
Hi. I watched video and i saw the 2020 giant tcr pro in red. Do you know which store it is? Do you know Size xs or s still available? Thanks.
Hi, the red TCR is in Giant Vancouver store, and i believe that one is a size M
Hi my Giant Gavia Race 25c tyres sit super narrow on these rims. Do you also find this? On my previous Reynolds wheels the same width tyres sit much wider. Thanks
Hey, just looked. The tires sit flush with the rims. But yes, these wheels make the tires narrower
Good that I found your channel. Thanks for the video. I am 1.71 cms. Would this Small size still be applicable to me ?
Yes, I think small would be perfect for you actually,
how do you find the SLR1 's performance ?
Is it worth the money if i buy it separately ?
They are a great wheelset, I'd say Yes, its really great for the money that you spend. My only complaint is that this wheelset is not as wide as other wheels (such as the Knot64), SLR1 is optimized for 25mm, so 28mm tires will have a mushroom effect.
What is your inseam and reach length? I am looking to buy a TCR but I'm not sure which size, I'm 1.78cm
My inseam is 76cm
You would probably be a M
Sorry i dont know my reach length
What is your saddle height?
Awesome video! Love the detailed review. Just wondering what type of water bottle holders your running and where to pick some up? Thank!
Hey thanks !!
www.arundelbike.com/product/mandible/
These are the ones that I use.
@@pattnwia thanks! I just bought this bike thanks to your review! Still lots to learn. Cheers.
@@HondaAtHeart Awesome !! Glad my vid helped :)
Hey @@pattnwia, I was just wondering if you have used the Giant RideLink app to upgrade your powermeter firmware or calibrate it? I can't seem to get mine to connect and Ive seen lots of negative comments on that RideLink app. Thanks
@@HondaAtHeart Hey, I remember trying that app as well and it was just a pain to do. So i dont think i ended up updating the firmware. For calibration I just use my wahoo unit to calibrate.
hey buddy - I think I am in between size (S and XS). I am currently using a Giant Contend 3 (S size) and am considering an XS TCR Advanced Pro. Any advice?
I am 168cm, 62kg, fairly flexible and looking to use the bike for HAM/quick rides and climbing.
Hey, Hmmmm
its rare to find a XS size for a mens TCR, you would have to special order it from bike shops because they rarely stock that size.
According to the Giant sizing guide, you are probably a S, but a XS would be very aggressive, suitable because your flexible and want to go fast. I would say to go try out a S size, and if it feels a bit big, then i would size down to a XS. I am 175 cm and my recommended size is M , i have ridden both sizes and i prefer the S size.
Hope that helps :)
what pedals are you using on the bike? do you know how much the bike weighed without pedals, cages or computer?
dura ace pedals. ummm probably low 7 kgs
4:32 should it be this loud when pedalling?
Maybeeee ??? It could also be from my friends bike. I dono haha
What water bottle cages are those? I want ones that hold larger bottles.
Hey , the cages are Arundel
www.arundelbike.com/product-category/bottle-cages/
i dont think they have the ones i have on the bike anymore :(
Good bike. Im planning to get one. I'm 169cm in height. Which size should I get, the XS or S?
probably a S , it depends on your inseam. I recommend trying them both before deciding
Can I ask what the connectivity is like to the Di2? As some bikes are equipped with the bluetooth module and others not I was wondering how easy it is for example to speed up shifting?
Yep, If the bike comes with the bluetooth module, then you can just connect to your smartphone and change settings there. If not, then you will have to connect via USB to a computer and make changes there. This TCR doesn't come with the bluetooth module, so I had to connect it to my computer and use the E-tube project application. Its fairly easy to do :) hope that helps.
@@pattnwia do you know if they do come with the blue tooth module and if they don't is there anything you can do new to di2
@@kye455 so my bike doesnt come with blue tooth module, but you can buy the module and install it on the bike. The current gen Di2, has synchro shift that you can configure, basically it shifts the rear for you when you shift the front big/small chainring
You will need to buy the D-Fly bluetooth module. Super easy to install. Then you can get the gears displaying on your Garmin head unit, if you have one of those. Heaps of internet posts around not messing with the factory settings via the mobile phone app - many saying it essentially bricks the Di2 unit. So I've never used this, and don't see a reason to. I use the auto shifting modes which changes the front derailleur as you go up the gears. There is a button on the charging port that allows you to manually change the shift modes. Easy.
Hey Patt! Thanks for the review.
I'm also 175cm tall but my inseam length is 78cm - i have short legs. My saddle height is 67.5cm. Should i go for small or extra Small size?
Thanks
Hi, thanks for the comment. In your case I am not too sure, since your proportions are a bit unstandard. The best way would still be going to bike shop to try on the bikes if possible. :)
@@pattnwia thanks for the reply. Can you please help me by telling me your saddle height in the tcr ?
@@rayvinthingnam9106 hey my saddle height is 70cm. So actually I think you should be good with a small, xs seems too small.
@@pattnwia thanks buddy for the reply. Going to go with small 👍
@@rayvinthingnam9106 awesome !! Congrats
Hi Patt,
Kudos on your you tube vids
Could I please ask why you chose small frame and not medium ? I’m same height as you
I James, I have shorter legs. So I find the small frame fits better and it is more aggressive/ nimble
@@pattnwia cheers, could I please ask what your inseam is? I’m curious as I may need to buy a small as well I’m riding a medium TCR but about to buy a new bike and want to make sure I get the right frame size
@@jamespham888 hey my inseam is around 75cm
Hopefully that helps
@@pattnwia cheers Patt
Yes it does help make my frame size decision
I have inseam of 82cms so my seat would be too high from the handle bars
So I’ll stick to medium 😊
@@jamespham888 awesome :)
Beautyful bike with a fantastic color. 😍
whats the differece between pro and SE version?
The Pro ones come with better wheels and power meter built in
Any idea if this is ready to connect to Di2 Etube app out of the box?
No, you will need a blue tooth dongle for that, I think thats going to be an additional 80$??
:(
How does it compare to your Dogma when climbing?
I feel like the TCR climbs better than the dogma, but that is just my feeling.
Any updates on the Gavia tires? I noticed Giant still hasn’t updated their list of approved tires for the new wheels... This is the only thing holding me back from this bike, I don’t want to be stuck with Giant branded tires.
Hey ! Both tires are doing well. No punctures !!!
Yea alot of my friends are running GP5000 TL on their bikes. I kinda want to switch, but the Giant tires are doing pretty well. no complaints
HEY!! I spoke too soon. My rear tire just blew out a hole from the sidewall... WTF how does that even happen.... I rode over a small bump on the road and BOOM. Tire burst and didnt seal..... Pretty mad !!!
Patts Bikes I’ve always had good luck with Schwalbe Pro One tires, hence my trepidation at being forced into relying on only Giant tires for the foreseeable future... If you try a different brand you should do an update video on how it went!
@@SNS1212 thanks will do !
Nice review. Well done. My only suggestion would be to comment on the built-in shift modes of Di2. When I first tried this on my 2020 TCR Adv Pro 1, I didn't like them at all. Couldn't understand how to change modes properly, and couldn't get used to front or rear derailleurs shifting by themselves. Now I leave it in auto and let the front shift by itself and really enjoy how it works. And the hoods have buttons that you can program to change the screens on your Garmin, which is really nice. I don't have sprint shifters, but I know you can get these as well.
Don't you need to upgrade to the Di2 wireless unit to change screens on the Garmin?
175cm on S, do you experience toe clipping/overlap?
A bit, only when my feet are in the 3 o clock position and the wheels are turned out. It hasn't affected my riding
How much does it weight without the pedals? Choosing between this and advance pro 1 , the pro 1 size m came in 7.4 without cage and Garmin Mount.
I haven't weighted it without pedals, but i guess it should be around 7.3kg
Weight is listed on Giant Japan website. Pro 0 M is 7.2kg. Pro 1 is 7.45kg. The bulk of the weight difference is in the tyres (200g more with the Gravia!).
I want this bike really bad but i have 0 knowledge on tubeless setup..
What do you do when you go flat on road that cant be fixed using sealant or plug?
Do your recommend this bike for someone who dont know how to do maintenance on tubeless setup?
Thats the scariest part for me to buy this bike right now.
Great question!! If you get a flat that can't be sealed. You will have to use a standard bike tube. Luckily all small punctures should be sealed by the sealant automatically, and larger nails would require a plug. Anything beyond that would be super unlucky, and would probably destroy any bike tire, regardless of tubeless or tubed setup. Hope that helps !!!
I personally haven't experienced a puncture where a plug didn't work.
@@pattnwia thanks for the reply. Does the tube work or (clincher) compatible with this slr 1 wheel though?
Just to use it to ride it back home…
@@user-vn9js9yn1j Yes it should, I asked a giant representative about this and he says that it is ok to use it to get home, but the wheel itself is designed for tubeless.
Can you install the cables inside so it’s fully internal ?
nooo :(
On the website it says it comes with the aluminum handle bar “contact sl” but yours came with the carbon slr? Or did you add that?
Apparently it was a bonus "freebie" that giant added for the Advance pro 0 models. I was pretty surprised too. But nice bonus from giant :)
Patts Bikes if that’s the case I’m ordering mine tomorrow they said XLs are coming in next week
@@lennythedog6544 Nice,!! It should have the SL carbon handlebar.
@@pattnwia SL is aluminum; SLR is carbon. Pro 0 comes with SL. On the video, the finish looks quite like aluminum. The carbon SLR looks quite different (see gallery from this review of the TCR SL: road.cc/content/review/giant-tcr-advanced-sl-0-disc-2021-274347 ). Update: I stand corrected. Another video also says the bar is SLR. So carbon. Nice!
@@Dee-Ell Yep !! I was pretty surprised when i found out my bars are carbon too !! Apparently its a special freebie from Giant for the Pro 0 models
i the ism seatpost really a pain? if it is, then I'm definitely getting the advanced pro instead of the sl.
Yes,
th-cam.com/video/PLmRvwb1KhY/w-d-xo.html
Also consider watching this video about ISP seatpost problems. I think the advanced Pro will be good enough.
@@pattnwia Yep just watched that about an hour ago, and i think im leaning more towards the advanced pro. Anyways great review and thanks for the reply!
If you do the comparison between Adv Pro and the equivalent SL - ensuring same Di2 drive train - you will see that there is little difference, except about 200 grams and $2-3k. I went with the Adv Pro.
@@auswi thanks for the info 👍
Great looking bike, but those seat tube decals need to come off PRONTO
Are you still using Tubeless on your TCR? If yes, same Cadex? If no, how long did you run them until you switched?
Yes still tubeless
I switched the rear to a Giant Granfondo tire with puncture protection. I swapped it shortly after i got a second puncture
Nice. How many km since you switched? Any experience like in your review about sealant spray after switch? Last.. Did you stay with 25’s? Looking at options. Good review
@@driftwood1752 The granfondo is 28mm. No punctures yet !! (lets keep it that way)
The cadex one wouldnt seal all the way and it sprayed on my friend haha. I dont remember how many KMs but its not alot.
Thanks!
I've ordered the exact same model in the same size, and I've got a Romin Evo S-work saddle waiting to be installed when i get the bike this coming Thursday. And I'm Asian too! Are you my evil twin?
By the way, your accent sounds oddly familiar. Are you from South East Asia by any chance? I'm guessing somewhere between Thailand and Indonesia (inclusive).
AHHH Copycat twin !! AHHA :P
Im from Taiwan , but i grew up in Canada, soo might have a weird mix of accents??
Congrats on your new bike btw, your going to love it !
@@pattnwia Ah, its the mix of the mandarin mother tongue and "standard" english. I thought you sounded a little like a Singaporean (with the same mix of english education in schools and mandarin at home... like myself actually.)
Yet another way you copied me, my mom's from Taiwan! (Pingtung girl.)
@@phoebetan7519 Ahhh thats so cool !!!
So nice to meet you, guess i found my new twin :P
too bad we can't ride together :(
@@pattnwia Well, if you ever get the chance to pop down to Brisbane, Australia (yet another thing you copied from me - living in another ex-British colony), let me know! I'll let you ride my (soon-to-be) old bike. :)
@@phoebetan7519 sounds good :) Maybe once covid is clear :S
what happened to the hidden cables stem cover thing from the previous year?
I dont think the TCR ever had that. Only the propel has it
And the Defy as well
New Defy ditched that as well. It's a big chunk of rubber that looks like an aircraft carrier perched on top of a head tube. Giant needs to design a better integration solution (see Argon 18's Krypton). It doesn't help with the weight saving either.
@@Dee-Ell hahah couldn't not agree more !! :D
Does that one have the giant pr2 hub of the tcr advanced 2/is that one as loud as this one? Can’t find anything about it
No the PR2 is significantly quieter. I have a video on a 2018 TCR, the hub sound will be similar to that one, you can check it out :)
@@pattnwia thx so much :))
@@pattnwia it’s still decent tho isnt it?
@@pattnwia because i probably am going to buy that one, change the wheels after a year or so for sure tho
@@friedrichkulms895 Yes still decent :) just not as loud
Does anyone with the Advanced Pro 0 know if it comes with Di2 Wireless unit?
The di2 bluetooth unit right? It doesn't
Great detailed review! I was debating between the Advanced Pro 0 and 1 - went with the 1 because its cheaper and the Rosewood looks great.
1) Yes the hubs are loud - great for letting people know you're behind
2) I'm pretty sure both models come with the aluminum Contact SL handlebars
3) what route is that @9:24?
Nice! congrats on the bike. !
Yes, on giants website they say the Pro 0 comes with SL aluminum handlebars, but I went to the Giant store in Vancouver and checked that the pro 0s on display all had the SLR carbon handlebar. hmmm , maybe a mistake on the website?
and the route is demo forest near lower seymour conservation reserve.
@@pattnwia A Giant store employee told me the carbon handlebar was a "little bonus" from Giant on the Pro0. So hopefully that will continue into 2022 onwards. Nice bike & helpful review BTW. I'm still trying to decide between the new TCR & Tarmac SL7. Have you climbed Cypress or Seymour yet, and if so, how does the Pro0 compare with your previous bike(s) on those climbs? Thanks!
@@sulfurlaw ahhh that makes sense, Yea i was pretty surprised when i noticed the carbon handlebar. thought the bike shop made a mistake :P really cool that giant included that for the Pro 0's :) happy !!!
Man both those are great bikes, hard to choose. I personally like the look of the tarmac more, its alot more aerodynamic, but it is more expensive.
Yep, climbed cypress and seymour already, TCR is amazing at climbs, the fame doesnt flex at all, basically no difference when compared to my pinarello F8, however on descents it handles better than the F8. im going to try my friends SL7 Tarmac next week, so ill let you know how that is. I tried the Tarmac SL6, and it basically feels identical to a TCR, but im pretty sure SL7 will be better o 0
@@pattnwia Agreed & many thanks for the reply! Please do post your impression once you have some hands on with the SL7. Actual user reviews on affordable models are SO MUCH better than the typical bike magazine's TCR ASL0 or SL7 S-Works reviews. :)
I've actually not tried either 2021 models. But I did test ride both outgoing models just before covid, so I am sure I'll be happy no matter which one I pick. Currently leaning towards the TCR due to the lower MSRP, but still a bit hesitant about the hookless rims. The SL7 does look better though. The Spesh CA site briefly had an SL7 Pro w/ Di2 (i.e. not the Force 1x) that I was drooling over, but they've since removed it from the site so I don't know what's going on. Don't think I'll be happy with the C$7K SL7 Expert with R470 wheels, but can't justify splurging for an S-Works. So perhaps the choice is already made for me. :)
@@sulfurlaw haha thanks :)
I recently test rode my friends 2021 Emonda , that bike is pretty good too !! Price point is a bit on the higher side, but it is something to consider. I feel the Tarmac, TCR, and Emonda all ride very similar and are very comparable to each other.
YEA!! the 1X Force was such a shocker to me too, so weird they chose that drivetrain. I think the shops here should still be able to get their hands on the PRO with Di2 versions. im not too sure though... MMM is it the hookless rims compatibility with tires?? I know the GP5000 TL isnt listed as a compatible tire, but i have seen people run it on their giant tcr's. So it works, but i just dont know about safety and stuff.
Anyways keep me updated on which bike you choose and if you have any other questions, feel free to ask :)
May I ask one question? How tall are you, cause I see you choose S size for your bike? I am a little worry about my choice of M size bike of TCR pro 0... I am 178cm tall. Thanks !
Hey i am 175cm tall with 76 cm inseam
@@pattnwia I am 178 tall with 79 cm inseam, so similar. Interesting .. Any suggestion for new one like me?
@@ridges0315 I would say its best to try both bikes first. Because everyone is different. I like the smaller bike size because its more nimble and lighter. I can fit on both M and S tho, so it just comes to preference. size M will be more comfortable :)
keep me updated !
Hello!
I am in MTB for almost 2 years and I am converting to road bikes....What do you think about Giant Tcr Advanced 2016 model?
- Is it good for beginners?
- What is the perfect size for 1.78 cm Height?
- Can I do packaging with the bike
Hi, The TCR hasn't really changed much since 2016. The difference with the 2021 models were just small changes to the tube shapes for more aero.
I would recommend a giant defy or any endurance road bike for bike packing. The TCR is more of a race bike, but you can still put up to 32 mm tires on it.
@@pattnwia Hello I want to ask you what bike do you recommend....the Giant Tcr Composite with Fulcrum xero tyres or the Bianchi Interpida
@@morkeomorkei3540 Hey, I would go for the giant TCR. Never rode the bianchi before, but the TCR will not disappoint you for sure.
@@pattnwia Hello bro....Actually the Bianchi Intrepida is with Shimano 105 Groupset 7 kilos, Michelin copertoncino power endurance 700x25 at 1000 euro and on the other side the Giant has fulcrum tyres at 1200 euro..what would you choose?
@@morkeomorkei3540 Hows the condition on the bikes? Since they are similar price point, I would choose the one that is in better condition. I would say the Giant frame would be more popular over the bianchi. I would still choose the giant if it were me. Hope that helps :)
Nice video and bike! I recently got a 2021 TCR as well, but it did not come with the computer mount. If you're interested in selling yours let me know (you mentioned in the video you weren't using it)
right, are you in vancouver as well?
@@pattnwia unfortunately no, I'm in the US (Texas).
@@1992chevycheyenne sorry, it might be easier to ask your bike shop. They should be able to supply it to you for free because it should come with one :)
@@pattnwia ok sounds good I'll talk to them! Thank you.
Very informative video on the 21 TCR - great color choice btw! :)
Question: How did you decide to pick the Size S? I am 176cm (1cm more than you) and am deciding btwn S and M.
Yep, so I actually test rode both sizes for about 15 mins each. While both sizes fit me, riding a smaller size does have a weight advantage, so it should feel more nimble and faster accelerating when compared to the size M. Secondly, a smaller size gets me in a more aggressive position so thats why i chose it. Also the stock stem on the size S is 90mm, which i swapped out for a 100mm to fit me better.
hope that helps :)
@@pattnwia very helpful info, thanks! happy kom hunting
I am 180 and have M/L TCR (2019). The difference is only 5 cm and 2 sizes. I have just started thinking about visiting bike-fitter :D
@9:37 Wow. It almost looks like a cycling path. Is it?
yeaa !!
Wow! You are so lucky! It looks amazing.
@@AlexRochette yea i really like cycling there, its in Vancouver
What’s a pity that there is NO power meter included for 2022 TCR advanced Pro 0 Disc Shimano 12s group-set
Danggg !! i just checked the new 2022 TCR, i love the paint. But im pretty sure its built in powermeter no?? Its a real shame if it isnt :( especially on pro version
Hi, I am looking at buying this bike when they become available. How have you got on with it now you have had it a few months? Many thanks
Love it, Rides really great. 10/10 recommend this bike :)
@@pattnwia thanks. Did you find the paint work continued to scratch easy? Also any issues with DI2? Never had it before
@@eastlamb9949 Nope, paint is good, it was just that initial scratch.
And im loving Di2, its so much better than mechanical shifting. Wont go back to it :)
@@pattnwia thank you for the replies! Im going to go for it! If they ever come back in stock! 😭
@@eastlamb9949 Awesome !! Glad to help :)
This di2 have emissor Bluetooth?
no it doesnt, have to buy an additional bluetooth dongle
Hi, nice detailed review on Giant TCR, keep it up! Im 174cm high, leg inseam 80cm. In dilemma whether to go for size S or M. Did you try riding on size M before?
Hey, thanks !!!
I did. In fact i had a 2016 TCR that was size M. Fits me perfectly fine. I just prefer the smaller size because it is lighter and more nimble.
Its really down to personal preference, Id say give both a try. Some people like the bigger frame for more stability. And i personally liked the 40cm wide bar, so that's another reason why i went with size S. Hope that helps !!