Thanks for the opportunity Brian! Spot on about bolts, real life use, testing and everything. The most we can each do is offer a small sliver of the pie to bring people info before making a purchase, which you're doing here! Whatever the case, the Milwaukee remains the standard to compare to in the category for a reason, it just performs. It's still my #1 most used cordless impact, and we have a few options around here haha
Thanks. I agree with the stretching of the bolt theory. Instead of using those tired longer bolts from the tractor. Why not get a couple hardened 7/8th fine thread bolts and drill a 1/2 inch bar stock. You can use the tractor as a counter to the torque by welding it somewhere on the frame or front-end components. As you know, the shorter the bolt, the less it will stretch. Or even simpler an old tractor-trailer hub and wheel.
I'm a Milwaukee fanboy though it has less power, I do prefer its smaller size for a mid torque. That Metabo water bucket test was impressive. Appreciate your honesty regarding a warm/hot bolt being easier to remove, many TH-cam reviewers don't disclose this fact 👍🏽
@@loucifer323 . China has done nothing to you. If you're American on the other hand you have long bought cheap Chinese goods made in sweat shops all over China.
@@loucifer323 . How many times has the USA interfered with sovereign countries? Its a miracle the rest of the world hasn't decided to team up and put us out of our misery once and for all.
That's what I like when you do real world testing because always watch TH-cam to help on my car and sometimes the car they are working on isn't rusted like my bolt is and won't budge and you have to hit it heat and oil
@@AntonioClaudioMichael The Milwaukee 5.0 and Multivolt 5ah/2.5ah are identical in shape and size, and use the same cells, and the Milwaukee 8.0 High output and Multivolt 8ah/4ah are also identical using the same larger cells.
@@histguy101 Milwaukee 5ah is larger then the 2.5/5 amp hour multivolt battery there is a Tiny few MM's difference in size in all directions same goes for the 8ah Milwaukee vs the Multivolt they are more Compact in all directions by a few MM's you can go back and forth with me all you like trying to prove your point but I actually measured them
@@AntonioClaudioMichael how about this: Next time you have time/opportunity, hold them up next to each other. If I am wrong, I will give you 100 internet points and an internet apology
Well it's bigger and rated for higher torque, I would hope it's stronger... With that said I always prefer the best balance between small size factor and power. That's why I run the stubby as much as possible and if I need more break out the M18 mid torque.
Hey Brian I just looked up this impact on Amazon. It’s only showing the kit for $399 and out of stock. However, the funny part is all of the product images are of you and we’re taken from this video. You should check it out if you don’t already know thought was interesting.
It is not a marketing agreement. But just like you guys, Metabo HPT and other companies like it to. They send tools our way and we give them suggestions as to what we would do to improve it. In this case, they sent me this tool when they had a final sample and said take some pics for us. We did and used it for some time. The rest of these are floating on a ship somewhere waiting to make shore.
Is it possible by using the Metabo on it first you loosened it up for the Milwaukee and made it easier? To really be fair you should have done another test under the exact same circumstances and pounded on it with the Milwaukee first and then used the Metabo. I don’t own either brand; just an observation. I don’t think your test was really fair in that respect.
It beats Milwaukee in total torque, not in the first part of the curve. The Milwaukee hitting harder at the beginning could be helpful in breaking things loose quicker. Also this thing is huge. Just out of curiosity, has anyone used the metabo warranty?
I have had 2 tools repaired. Didn't need to provide proof of purchase and had the tool back in about a week including shipping both ways (which they paid for). First tool, I ripped the plastic button cover off of a triple hammer impact driver, didn't want to compromise the IP56 rating. Second tool was a 23-ga pin nailer where it was jamming, couldn't figure out why. Works fine now.
I'm a Foreman for a heavy civil underground contractor doing big water lines, sewer and Storm drain. After having to change out/discard Makita batteries multiple times and being without the proper tools until I could do so, I went and bought Milwaukee tools to keep on my truck with my own money. My mid torque, sawzall, right angle impact and drill have all been submerged in water, covered in mud, buried in sand and dirt and splattered with concrete but keep on performing like the day I bought them. Milwaukee may not claim an IP rating but don't discount them (not saying you did, just in general) because they are some tough tools. They've kept my crew going under the worst conditions for any tool and I don't regret supplying my guys with them even if it did come out of my own pocket
Hi Brian, I saw that metabo on ttc and it’s very impressive as is your demonstration in water and it’s still kicking but, go easy on that torque wrench you can demonstrate that tool just don’t over do your body your point is received with out your getting hurt, you produce very quality video’s, ty, Bob,
Just looked up the price bare tool . $289 .00 that’s a bit higher than you said . Down side not available at my Lowe’s . A 4.0 battery and charger $149 bucks .
Tool Barn. 199 with a free 4/8ah battery and charger kit for free. I picked it up a month or so ago. Its a beast of an impact. Have yet to find something it wont zip right off with ease.
Some guy who was high rear ended that trailer behind it and pushed it up into the bed of the truck. We fixed it. There is a video of us straightening the bed. It got pretty sketchy.
The Milwaukee is still smaller than the Makita and Metabo mid-torques. I'm sure Milwaukee did their research before the Gen-2 came out and asked people if they would rather have smaller and lighter, but only slightly more power, or the same size and heavier but a lot more power. I'm sure most people responded "smaller and lighter." I have the M12 stubby 3/8 and the Gen-2 M18 Mid torque. But with the weight and size reduction they did on the Gen-2 Mid, you might be able to get away with just the Gen-2 Mid as your main workhorse.
I’m new to Milwaukee and highly impressed with the stubby and max torque, getting the mid torque after seeing it in action for a smaller but powerful work horse💯
About 95% had 2 4.0's get replaced but after 3 yrs of roto hammering, table sawing, grinding we all good for most of them I've had about same failure rate with Milwaukee and much worse with DeWalt Makita doesn't have the larger amp hour batteries so the 5.0's and 4.0's go bad due to more recharging cycles needed to get the job done
I had a DeWalt with a snap in front impact not the big one I was trying to get this boat out I lubricated it I hit it with a hammer and it just didn't want to come out so I come back the next day with a full battery beat on it to my gun started smoking then it broke loose and the gun locked up but then I noticed the nut was tack welded I said dumbass
I never try to get people to change, just to get out info for people to make informed choices. It was nice to have TTC to give us data as the data we got on the tractor still showed Milwaukee as king.
@@WorkshopAddict . I like the reviews even though I don't plan on investing in team green. Its nice to know what's out there. Just putting in my two cents also. Cheers!
@@MrSupernova111 I will very likely invest in Team Grass Green, just because of that bucket test alone ..... (already have Team Dark Green) Even though I am already heavily Team Navy Blue, I invested in Team Bright Red for the impact wrenches alone, very impressive.... No Team Dandelion Yellow on my end No reservations spending $$ on power tools
Umm, so not true. Milwaukee is not even American owned. While they have some assembly facilities in the US, most of the hand power tools (m12, m18, and FUEL variants) are made in China. Just like almost all the other popular brands. Exceptions are Festool and maybe some others. Perhaps that explains the $ difference???
Fart at 9:26? Hee hee..thank you for showing us the Metabo...I'm sticking with Milwaukee since i am fully invested into it..since the torque test channel shows that the metabo beats the Milwaukee Mid-Torque, i'm glad that i have the Milwaukee M18 High-torque, 2767.
I always appreciate the basic effort that ANYONE puts into producing a TH-cam video so, for that, thank you. That being said, the torque portion was totally useless to me. You assumed that the viewer can tell what exatly is going on with the gun & WE CAN'T. TH-cam VIEWERS ARE USUALLY LOOKING AT A TINY SCREEN!!! YOU NEED TO VERBALLY (AND CLEARLY) TELL EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENS AT EACH TRY WITH THE GUN (IF THE BOLT IS MOVING OR NOT) >>> OR
Damn son! I love my 18v metabo half inch cuz it just aint care about my 140ft lb truck lug nuts. I mean like they werent even tight. That 36v Metabo stuff is absolutely the shizzles yo.
It only beat Milwaukee with 5.0 and look the size of that thing naw ill keep my red if I need the few extra beans id grab one of my other Milwaukee hightorques only one led not tri beam and by the way you can dunk your Milwaukee fuel and have no problems 😊 the ip 64 is just a gimmic if you open the Milwaukee all the boards are incased in some kind of black substance water will not hurt brushless motors but regardless I rather the Milwaukee fuel
Great channel, always solid reviews. Not a fan of TTC. He uses one size bolt and adapters sometimes, wrong size batteries half the time. Stops the test while torque is still climbing and then makes claims and belittles the companies claims because he didn’t test like they did. Your test are real world and actually better. Plus the feel of the tool , the platform your into and price are all factors.
Thanks for the opportunity Brian! Spot on about bolts, real life use, testing and everything. The most we can each do is offer a small sliver of the pie to bring people info before making a purchase, which you're doing here! Whatever the case, the Milwaukee remains the standard to compare to in the category for a reason, it just performs. It's still my #1 most used cordless impact, and we have a few options around here haha
Fancy seeing you here 🤣😂
I agree @Torque Test Channel
Thanks. I agree with the stretching of the bolt theory.
Instead of using those tired longer bolts from the tractor. Why not get a couple hardened 7/8th fine thread bolts and drill a 1/2 inch bar stock.
You can use the tractor as a counter to the torque by welding it somewhere on the frame or front-end components. As you know, the shorter the bolt, the less it will stretch.
Or even simpler an old tractor-trailer hub and wheel.
I'm a Milwaukee fanboy though it has less power, I do prefer its smaller size for a mid torque. That Metabo water bucket test was impressive. Appreciate your honesty regarding a warm/hot bolt being easier to remove, many TH-cam reviewers don't disclose this fact 👍🏽
I can't stand Milwaukee because they're a China owned tool company, but I agree I rather have the smaller tool if the power is close
@@loucifer323 . China has done nothing to you. If you're American on the other hand you have long bought cheap Chinese goods made in sweat shops all over China.
@@MrSupernova111 Yes they have who caused the bullshit pandemic
@@loucifer323 . How many times has the USA interfered with sovereign countries? Its a miracle the rest of the world hasn't decided to team up and put us out of our misery once and for all.
@@loucifer323 . Hypocrite.
That's what I like when you do real world testing because always watch TH-cam to help on my car and sometimes the car they are working on isn't rusted like my bolt is and won't budge and you have to hit it heat and oil
Thanks Bryan, since I do mobile mechanic so kind often here in the Midwest... I am sure I'll get one.
I defenitly like that the Multivolt batteries are a bit more compact then the Milwaukee High output 8ah
They're identical in size.
@@histguy101 no there not identical in size buddy I have videos showing there not
@@AntonioClaudioMichael The Milwaukee 5.0 and Multivolt 5ah/2.5ah are identical in shape and size, and use the same cells, and the Milwaukee 8.0 High output and Multivolt 8ah/4ah are also identical using the same larger cells.
@@histguy101 Milwaukee 5ah is larger then the 2.5/5 amp hour multivolt battery there is a Tiny few MM's difference in size in all directions same goes for the 8ah Milwaukee vs the Multivolt they are more Compact in all directions by a few MM's you can go back and forth with me all you like trying to prove your point but I actually measured them
@@AntonioClaudioMichael how about this: Next time you have time/opportunity, hold them up next to each other. If I am wrong, I will give you 100 internet points and an internet apology
Man Brian you worked hard on that bolt. Great review as always. I love my Milwaukee mid torque.
It pissed me off and I was not going to let it win.
Well it's bigger and rated for higher torque, I would hope it's stronger... With that said I always prefer the best balance between small size factor and power. That's why I run the stubby as much as possible and if I need more break out the M18 mid torque.
What youre seeing in the video IS the Milwaukee m18 mid torque, is it not?
Amazing video so happy to see my two of my favorite channels working together!
@torquetestchannel was great to work with.
Love the collab, TTC is going places I view them as a meta testing authority and it’s so valuable to the industry and
Next up Makita 3/4(40v) vs milwaukee 3/4 m18 ?
Hey Brian I just looked up this impact on Amazon. It’s only showing the kit for $399 and out of stock. However, the funny part is all of the product images are of you and we’re taken from this video. You should check it out if you don’t already know thought was interesting.
I think they probably have a marketing agreement set up with him to use photos/video stills.
It is not a marketing agreement. But just like you guys, Metabo HPT and other companies like it to. They send tools our way and we give them suggestions as to what we would do to improve it. In this case, they sent me this tool when they had a final sample and said take some pics for us. We did and used it for some time. The rest of these are floating on a ship somewhere waiting to make shore.
That you can stick this in a bucket and rev it up. Is absolutely insane!
Is it possible by using the Metabo on it first you loosened it up for the Milwaukee and made it easier? To really be fair you should have done another test under the exact same circumstances and pounded on it with the Milwaukee first and then used the Metabo. I don’t own either brand; just an observation. I don’t think your test was really fair in that respect.
That’s probably what happened
Great review
At least you are getting a decent workout doing youtube videos man. Great job!
Yeah, I was out of breath for a bit. LOL
Interesting testing wow both of them are impressive
It beats Milwaukee in total torque, not in the first part of the curve. The Milwaukee hitting harder at the beginning could be helpful in breaking things loose quicker. Also this thing is huge. Just out of curiosity, has anyone used the metabo warranty?
I have had 2 tools repaired. Didn't need to provide proof of purchase and had the tool back in about a week including shipping both ways (which they paid for).
First tool, I ripped the plastic button cover off of a triple hammer impact driver, didn't want to compromise the IP56 rating. Second tool was a 23-ga pin nailer where it was jamming, couldn't figure out why. Works fine now.
You’re going to have to clarify between Metabo and Metabo HPT on that question.
@@robertrada4783 The video is about a Metabo HPT tool
@@PhillyFixed I know. I know. I’m being cheeky.
@@PhillyFixed I have the same nailer (and a friend has the makita), we both found the 7/8" / 22mm pins dont agree with the tools.
Tested in the wild.👍
I'm a Foreman for a heavy civil underground contractor doing big water lines, sewer and Storm drain. After having to change out/discard Makita batteries multiple times and being without the proper tools until I could do so, I went and bought Milwaukee tools to keep on my truck with my own money. My mid torque, sawzall, right angle impact and drill have all been submerged in water, covered in mud, buried in sand and dirt and splattered with concrete but keep on performing like the day I bought them. Milwaukee may not claim an IP rating but don't discount them (not saying you did, just in general) because they are some tough tools. They've kept my crew going under the worst conditions for any tool and I don't regret supplying my guys with them even if it did come out of my own pocket
my Milwaukee 3rd gen and triple hammer have been used i same conditions--heavy rain has effected the Milwaukke but the triple hammer keeps o truckin
I've had a few of my 2nd and 3rd gen Fuel's have issues with water more than my triple hammers
Nice Sunex 3/4 Torque Wrench
Metabo weed trimmers are also great.
For around the house working on cars occasionally which one do you think is best
Hi Brian, I saw that metabo on ttc and it’s very impressive as is your demonstration in water and it’s still kicking but, go easy on that torque wrench you can demonstrate that tool just don’t over do your body your point is received with out your getting hurt, you produce very quality video’s, ty, Bob,
I was not going to let that bolt win!
I just wonder- if you have a tough nut to crack- might it be better to work at it longer with less torque than to just break it off straight away!
Just looked up the price bare tool . $289 .00 that’s a bit higher than you said . Down side not available at my Lowe’s . A 4.0 battery and charger $149 bucks .
Tool Barn. 199 with a free 4/8ah battery and charger kit for free. I picked it up a month or so ago. Its a beast of an impact. Have yet to find something it wont zip right off with ease.
Great collaboration! What happened to the pickup -- get rear ended, or back up into a tree?!
Some guy who was high rear ended that trailer behind it and pushed it up into the bed of the truck. We fixed it. There is a video of us straightening the bed. It got pretty sketchy.
@@WorkshopAddict Hmm, I'm guessing either a tree and a come along, or a 2nd truck with a winch....
@@PhillyFixed Tractor/loader and chains.
The Milwaukee is still smaller than the Makita and Metabo mid-torques. I'm sure Milwaukee did their research before the Gen-2 came out and asked people if they would rather have smaller and lighter, but only slightly more power, or the same size and heavier but a lot more power. I'm sure most people responded "smaller and lighter." I have the M12 stubby 3/8 and the Gen-2 M18 Mid torque. But with the weight and size reduction they did on the Gen-2 Mid, you might be able to get away with just the Gen-2 Mid as your main workhorse.
I’m new to Milwaukee and highly impressed with the stubby and max torque, getting the mid torque after seeing it in action for a smaller but powerful work horse💯
Stubby is good for M12 but I prefer my Metabo HPT mid over my Milwaukee for feel and bringing the beans for longer applications
To close to go buying into new plat form
Milwaukee good enough right know if u have it
That feelinf when righty-tighty becomes righty loose-y.
My opinion is get all 3 ranges and use what’s needed. Don’t just get the mid and expect it to do it all!
Got stubby and high torque, mid range is next I love Milwaukee 💯🔥
should be marketed for boat people !!!
Hey just wondering how peoples metabo hpt batteries are holding up. Anyone have a multivolt battery either the 4.0 or 2.5 last more than 2 years yet?
About 95% had 2 4.0's get replaced but after 3 yrs of roto hammering, table sawing, grinding we all good for most of them
I've had about same failure rate with Milwaukee and much worse with DeWalt
Makita doesn't have the larger amp hour batteries so the 5.0's and 4.0's go bad due to more recharging cycles needed to get the job done
The Milwaukee 3/8 seems to make more power then the 1/2 Milwaukee on Torque Test Channel Video that was also interesting Brian @WorkShopAddict
I had a DeWalt with a snap in front impact not the big one I was trying to get this boat out I lubricated it I hit it with a hammer and it just didn't want to come out so I come back the next day with a full battery beat on it to my gun started smoking then it broke loose and the gun locked up but then I noticed the nut was tack welded I said dumbass
That's nice. But people well established into team red aren't going to switch colors! Nice review! Thanks!
There was once a show called The Red Green Show"
I never try to get people to change, just to get out info for people to make informed choices. It was nice to have TTC to give us data as the data we got on the tractor still showed Milwaukee as king.
@@walterbrunswick lol
@@WorkshopAddict . I like the reviews even though I don't plan on investing in team green. Its nice to know what's out there. Just putting in my two cents also. Cheers!
@@MrSupernova111 I will very likely invest in Team Grass Green, just because of that bucket test alone ..... (already have Team Dark Green)
Even though I am already heavily Team Navy Blue, I invested in Team Bright Red for the impact wrenches alone, very impressive....
No Team Dandelion Yellow on my end
No reservations spending $$ on power tools
Anyone know the release date for this setup?
Do you use ear protection
Yes, you should see the orange in my ear and the blue line going to each ear. These dudes are loud.
Here’s my thought , I own both brands , I like both brands the numbers don’t matter cause I know that if one doesn’t do the job the other will lol
Metabo 👍👌👊
Milwaukee is the goat. American made, can't go wrong
Umm, so not true. Milwaukee is not even American owned. While they have some assembly facilities in the US, most of the hand power tools (m12, m18, and FUEL variants) are made in China. Just like almost all the other popular brands. Exceptions are Festool and maybe some others. Perhaps that explains the $ difference???
It looses its torque power with extension attached to it 🤔
Fart at 9:26? Hee hee..thank you for showing us the Metabo...I'm sticking with Milwaukee since i am fully invested into it..since the torque test channel shows that the metabo beats the Milwaukee Mid-Torque, i'm glad that i have the Milwaukee M18 High-torque, 2767.
I always appreciate the basic effort that ANYONE puts into producing a TH-cam video so, for that, thank you. That being said, the torque portion was totally useless to me. You assumed that the viewer can tell what exatly is going on with the gun & WE CAN'T. TH-cam VIEWERS ARE USUALLY LOOKING AT A TINY SCREEN!!! YOU NEED TO VERBALLY (AND CLEARLY) TELL EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENS AT EACH TRY WITH THE GUN (IF THE BOLT IS MOVING OR NOT) >>> OR
Milwaukee beast small size and powerfull !!!
Damn son!
I love my 18v metabo half inch cuz it just aint care about my 140ft lb truck lug nuts.
I mean like they werent even tight.
That 36v Metabo stuff is absolutely the shizzles yo.
It only beat Milwaukee with 5.0 and look the size of that thing naw ill keep my red if I need the few extra beans id grab one of my other Milwaukee hightorques only one led not tri beam and by the way you can dunk your Milwaukee fuel and have no problems 😊 the ip 64 is just a gimmic if you open the Milwaukee all the boards are incased in some kind of black substance water will not hurt brushless motors but regardless I rather the Milwaukee fuel
You are pain wrong about it only beating the Milwaukee with the 5.0.
That's against the mid torque..now face it against the the big boi 1/2 fuel impact.
Yeah Metabo HPT has that one also and it is as good if not better and is IP rated above Milly walky
My dog thinks he’s a high torque impact wrench
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Great channel, always solid reviews. Not a fan of TTC. He uses one size bolt and adapters sometimes, wrong size batteries half the time. Stops the test while torque is still climbing and then makes claims and belittles the companies claims because he didn’t test like they did.
Your test are real world and actually better. Plus the feel of the tool , the platform your into and price are all factors.
There is no longer a need for high torque impacts outside of heavy industries.
That's not necessarily true.
I needed one to fix my truck!
@@WorkshopAddict I stand corrected.
@@WorkshopAddict I’ve got them all from stubby to high torque lol …..I feel you💯