JUST RELEASED! Milwaukee Gen 2 M18 FUEL Mid Torque Impact Review [2960 & 2962]
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- Smaller, lighter, and more powerful than the Gen 1. The Milwaukee Gen 2 2960 M18 FUEL Mid-Torque Impact Wrench delivers more than 550 ft-lbs of fastening torque and up to 650 ft-lbs of loosening torque or nut-busting torque. Model 2960 includes the 3/8" anvil, and model 2962 is fitted with the 1/2" anvil. Both models have the same 550 ft-lbs of fastening torque, but the 2962 has 650 ft-lbs of nut-busting torque while the 2960 only has 600.
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I have the 1/2” drive version of this and I love it. Great power to weight ratio. I use my M12 3/8 drive more but when I want more power this is the dawg.
If you want to buy your first impact wrench *buy this one* not the high torque. I started with a high torque, and then got this. You will struggle to find things the mid torque can’t do, but it is much lighter and much slimmer.
Would you recommend 1/2 in or 3/8 for suspension work?
@@CoyotePower5.0 you mean 1/2 or 3/8th mid torque? For me, I like the 1/2, my set goes down to 10mm and up to 24mm so it has everything covered. If i’m doing stuff smaller than 10, i’d use a ratchet since those fasteners are
Thanks! Was debating
I ordered this yesterday, before watching this video... now I'm even more certain of my decision.
This thing is a beast. I would get the 2962 1/2 version and just buy an 1/2 to 3/8 adapter I think that is more practical
Regarding the belt hook exactly as you said, I like your reaction to that : "These things do not belong on impact wrenches." 😄👍 You are absolutely right.
A follower from Europe
If you are a DIYer and only have to do mid-range work, this would make your life way easier. I have taken everything off from rusted caliper bolts to suspensions. I have a Dodge Charger, a Chevy Equinox and a Nissan Juke so that can tell you what kind of jobs this thing can handle. I had to change the ball bearings on the equinox and that was too much this gun, but I also have a high torque impact and that took it off like butter.
I love mine!
Interestingly, the thing I love most is the belt clip.
My old one didn't have that, and reaching down to the floor, across the lift, leaving it on the bench, or go forbid accidentally knocking it off my tool stand while holding parts in the air gets old when I can hang it on my pocket instead & have it instantly.
Awesome, that's great that you like the belt clip. It's a great impact. Thanks for watching.
Great tool, saved my bacon a few times in regards to time and headaches. This in the 1/2" and the Stubby in 3/8", two awesome tools that work hand in glove together.
Hold the phone! A torque gun! I didn't know of its existence.
Thats what im saying, im not even interested in the impact wrench lol i want a review on that
I’m looking for torque wrench myself anyone find
It’s like 7k. I’ll use the manual one 😂
@@theguimanruben its closer to $4k but still, thats a bit of a flex lol
Like Ruben said it's about 4 grand
I’ve heard that the auto stop mode is absolutely fantastic on this impact wrench.
By the way, I’ve seen it break free a nut torqued to 650 with a 6 amp battery.
I’m going to promote your channel this Friday. Love your channel bro
Hey brother, I really appreciate that. You're knocking out the videos. Keep up the great work.
@@Shoptoolreviews I thank you sir
As a mobile technician who has to work on rooftop/elevated equipment, the belt clip is definitely handy on impact guns.
Absolutely, the belt clips work great for certain scenario. I'm just having a little fun with that. Thanks for watching.
Can currently get the 2962 with (2) 6.0AH High Output batteries and charger for $269 at Home Depot for the July 4th sale! Just ordered it today. I know it's a Gen 2and a few years old now but they don't yet have a Gen-3 version for mid-torque. Still seems like a great gun though. I've used the crap out of my 1/4in M18 Fuel Impact Driver but I'm excited to finally be able to do wheels and brakes with a cordless gun!
Excellent channel and always comprehensive very well-presented reviews👍🏽 That LION torque gun is no joke, the Gen 2 Milwaukee Mid Torque is a really nice and versatile impact. The Gen 1 is still a good impact, my main peeve being it lacks a proper light. The precision wrench mode is another nice feature of the new model that saves time and prevents over-torquing, all in a smaller more powerful package. I have to think Milwaukee will be massaging their High Torque model soon.
Thank you very much. These LION guns are amazing, really. The Mid-Torque is very versatile and has a ton of power for the size. Yes, I agree, the Gen 1 is still a great gun as well, and you're right, the light is the weak point. We hope to see a new version of the High Torque soon, with the better lighting. Thanks for watching.
Keep in mind folks - high output batteries should be used on fuel tools for the best performance possible. I run this tool with a high output 8.0. Very pleased with it so far.
That is very impressive !!! Wow, with adapters no less. Great video tim. 👍
I appreciate it. As always, thanks for watching and have a great week.
Thanks for the useful information to help me with my purchasing decision.😊
I work for Amazon, got this with employee discount, amazing, thanks for the reviews!
I saw the video and I fell in love with this, thanks I already have mine and it's worth it!
The first thing I did with my new mid torque was take out the clip also lol.
Great minds think alike.😉 Thanks for watching.
Hangs on everything
Same.
Can tell a carpenter from a mechanic by their tool setup lol
Imagine if it had a strong ass magnet instead 😎✌️
I think your going to see more half inch impacts sold because of the practicality of the larger sockets. Instead of a larger socket with a adapter for 3/8s. No adapter and probably a stronger sockets for 1/2 inch. I would think a 21mm 3/8s would be a little thinner then a 21mm for a 1/2inch. I just ordered a 1/2 inch impact with 2 batteries ,charger and case. Mostly for lug nuts and some larger car nuts for like bumpers and suspension stuff. Its a bit overkill but, if you go easy on the stuff you loosening it should be ok. On the sockets and whatever your loosening/ tightening. To be realistic. Your doing a test. Not true to the real life conditions like rust and corrosion. Its a little different.. so results vary but, a great way to start.
I just ordered this tool after your video, I got the combo kit with half inch drive friction ring and two 5 amp hour batteries.
You'll love this kit. This little mid-torque is a beast. Let us know what you think. Thanks for watching.
Those 5.0s gonna both last all day? Looking at either that set or just going with one 8.0
I just bought the 3/8 m18 for $140 bucks. Can’t wait to use it.
Great video..just got my 1/2” compact and mid torque...just waiting to buy the boots... thanks again 👍
Awesome, it's great to hear. Thanks for watching.
Great video straight to the point and keeping it simple and very informative .
Well thought out presentation. Answered all my questions so I can make the purchase.
Just bought me one today brand new off Facebook for 65 bucks lol I love it
If you bought one of these for $65, then you got a steal of a deal. Thanks for watching.
Just ordered 1/2 mid torque gen 2 with 5amp battery from home depot for $219 today sale ends tomorrow 👍
Solid, informative video on a fabulous tool.
Great review lighter and strong with a good light i gotta have it
Just got home with the 1/2 inch mid torque, the first thing I looked to see was what screw diver bit is required to remove the belt clip.
my 3/8 stubby makes sense at 3/8, but after that 1/2 for a tool with the capability as shown in the video.
That little stubby is a great little impact, and this new mid-torque is a beast. Thanks for watching.
Love my 3/8ths midtorque I've only needed my big high torque twice since getting it for torque reasons. For socket reasons four times I think
The Mid-Torque is an awesome unit and it works for most jobs. The High Torque is great too, but not needed very much when you have the Mid-Torque. Thanks for watching.
got the 2962 with a m18 5.0 battery for 160 on offerup, not bad. Got the charger for $15 on ebay so in total 175 for the 2962 with a good battery and charger.
Ended up buying this tool to replace my 3/8 cordless snap on impact.
Are you happy with it? Thanks for watching.
@@Shoptoolreviews very happy with it. I'm use this milwaukee 3/8 impact 80% of the time when wrenching. So much nut busting to, I especially love the 4th setting for taking off wheel lug nuts. Now I just gotta figure what I'm gonna with the extra 3/8 's I have hahaha.
Just purchased mine from homedepot should be here soon!!
You'll love this Mid-Torque. Let us know what you think. Thanks for watching.
Getting mine for Christmas. Went ahead and bought two 5.0 batteries for it.
Thanks for explaining mode 4
You're welcome. Thanks for watching.
My 1/2 has broken seized lug studs off but it took 110% and it had the Milwaukee deep well sockets
Thanks for the tests. I just bought the tools and a 2 pack of Batteries for 430$, including tax. XC 6.0 Batteries were on sale.
Great to hear, glad you got a deal on it. Great choice on the 6.0. Thanks for watching.
@@Shoptoolreviews Its here! Time to Play.
I'm a dealership technician and I already have the 3/8 m12 stubby. Favorite cordless tool in the box. Problem I have found is that it doesn't have enough power to break loose 80% of the suspension and brake fasteners especially here in the rust belt. I was thinking a 3/8 in mid torque for that and 1/2 high torque for lug nuts and larger fasteners. Thoughts? My 3/8 impact sets go from 8 to 24mm and I already have mostly 3/8 impact swivels and sockets.
Yes, that would be a great choice for you. I couldn't recommend it any different. You'll probably use that Mid-Torque the most, once you have it. Thanks for watching.
Great review, thanks
Thanks for watching! I really appreciate the comment.
I just don’t see a 3/8” drive socket sizes usually limited to around 19mm maybe sightly higher depending on brand going up to 650ft lbs. I’d rather have 1/2” drive since the tend to go from around 10mm up to 36mm.
Yes, that's probably a smarter choice. This 3/8" was the first Mid-Torque we received so that's what we used. Thanks for watching.
Nice video sir... You got yourself a new subscriber!! 😎
Welcome aboard! Thank you very much and thanks for watching.
I went over to Kobalt 24V system 2 years ago. Milwaukee has gotten to proud of their prices.
The Kobalt 24V tools are no slouch, that's for sure. Thanks for watching.
Well Milwaukee is definitely more expensive but they are definitely the best in most categories. The old saying of “you get what you pay for” rings true for this example.
I've got a very stubborn crankshaft and just came home from buying this. Well find out how it goes in the morning. Wish me luck.
Takes no prisoners with the adapter!
You should retest the M18 mid torque with a 6Ah HO battery with your new bolt and buy set up, just to see how high it can break.
Sick impact! Can't wait to purchase it
It's awesome, and you'll love it. Let us know what you think when you get it. I have the links in the desciption. Thanks for watching.
That’s my Christmas present this year. Just ordered me two 5.0 batteries to go with it.
@@whatfreedom7 Which did you purchase the 3/8" or 1/2" or both? How is it? If 1/2", how does the 5 amp bat hold up? Debating if I should get maybe 8 amp since it'll be heavy used. Thank you.
@@firstlast6566 I got the 1/2”. Honestly so far it’s only been occasional light use so I can’t really give a lot of feedback yet. My 5.0 battery I haven’t had to even swap it out yet. Depending on what your going to be doing idk that you would really need a battery that big plus it’s more weight. Sorry wish I could tell you more.
@@whatfreedom7 Thanks for the feedback, I'm a HD diesel mechanic but work on earth moving machinery to pick ups to class 8 and retired military trucks. I agree it might be overkill, I think the 5 should be fine it seems to be what most reviewers test with too, thanks again cheers.
Hey now us plumbers and sprinkler guys love those clips on the side
Yep, us maintenance guys also love the clips, wouldn’t dream of removing it.
There's another channel that has custom made 3/8" drive impact sockets to test these 3/8" impact wrenches, If I remember correctly I think it's 3/8" drive 33mm or 34mm impact sockets.
Nice review I might pickup the kit.
I think you'll be really happy. Thanks for watching.
Today September 1st 2021, the Milwaukee mid torque + 5ah battery is selling for (219 +tax at home depot). [The dewalt mid torque + tool bag + 5ah + 3/8 dcf890 150 ft/lb impact wrench + charger dcb107 ] is selling for 250 +tax at Lowe's...
Just got the set up with 2 5.0amp batteries and case and charger plus tool for $349
Good works, wondering could you do a torque comparison between new and old mid torque? Also a comparison between new compact and m12 stubby?
Great suggestion! In fact, we're already planning for this. We'll be comparing these and a lot more.😉 Thanks for watching.
I think you have it the other way around. According to the Milwaukee literature and website:
Fastening torque: 650 ft-lb
Nut busting torque: 550 ft-lb
I must admit I'm puzzled by this design decision... Normally you need more torque to loosen rather than tighten. Now I get that with impact wrenches (as they don't apply uniform torque) the advertised torque rating depends on various parameters; so, it may indeed be that the REAL-WORLD loosening torque exceeds the tightening torque depending on how the strikes are applied.
Sold. Thank you!
Awesome, thanks for watching.
Very impressive.
Great video, the way things are going I wouldn’t be surprised if you find a 3/8 drive 33mm socket. These impacts are getting stronger and stronger. I wonder if socket sets will get bigger for 3/8 drive also. Instead of seeing 8mm-19mm maybe 8mm- to 32mm
Or 3/8- 1 1/4 since they have so much torque
I know what you mean. We are really reaching a point to wear these impacts will start destroying sockets. We've already seen this in testing with our 1/2" High Torque models. After extensive use, the sockets were starting to fail where the anvil entered the socket. Thanks for watching
On sale right now for $299 at Home Depot. 2 Batteries and charger
And another clip hits the the road!
So Tim, this model or the Stubby?
I have the M12 3/8" stubby and I absolutely love it. I use it for working on cars and I appreciate the M12's CP battery for hard-to-reach. 250 ft/lbs of nut busting torque is enough for me in my opinion. Had a VERY rusty sway bar link (Canadian winters) and my stubby removed it no problem. Very impressed.
If you work on big, heavy-duty equipments (farm equipments or whatnot), the M18 Mid-Torque would be the better choice for sure.
I have to choose the Mid-Torque, if I could only choose one. I absolutely love the Stubby (M12) and Compact (M18), but there are many times that I have to get the big brother to accomplish the task. Especially, if you're dealing with lug nuts, the Stubby/Compact just don't have the ugga-duggas to break free what other tire shops have done. YES, another clip has bit the dust.😉 Thanks so much for watching and commenting.
Can we do this again with the new forge battery!??
Can you do a teardown on this impact? Can you swap anvils from a pin detent to a hog ring?
Doesn’t this one have a hog ring?
I ordered a 2962p which has a pin detent and i regret buying it haha
I have the 2962 and broke the plastic trigger.
Thanks for the great video! I just got the friction ring 2962 today. I found the anvil has some back-and-forth play. Quite noticeable when pulling/pushing the anvil or even when raising and lowering the tool. Is this normal? Or do you notice this on the model you tested? Is it possible that the teflon (or metallic) washer/bushing for the anvil is too thin?
Mine moves back and forth too
I noticed this also. Seems normal. Hopefully hahaha
That 1/2 " to 3/8 robs torque
So in theory it’s stronger than 600... on good clean nuts/bolts
It does rob a little torque, but not as much as you might think. We will produce a new video that will address this concern. Thanks for watching.
@@Shoptoolreviews love the channel
Just paid 133 for it. Cant wait for it to come in
Excellent video What is the specs of grey torque wrench you are using please
IDW but I'm more impressed with the utility of that $4k Hytorc LION brushless Torque Wrench Gun.
Can you do a versus comparing it to the 12 volts stubby one .. talking difference on torque, price etc ..
The Stubby and Mid-Torque are not even close in power. The Mid-Torque has much more power. Thanks for watching.
Stubby is nice for 3/8” stuff and smaller 1/2” stuff and low torque/tight space applications other wise this one is superior.
Lol completely agree the clip isn’t made for mechanics to put on a belt lol i take those off and just leave the screw back in
That torque gun though...bad ass
Yes, the HYTORC torque gun is pretty legit. Thanks for watching.
@@Shoptoolreviews price? Thanks for sharing
$219 for the bare tool, or $419 with 2 5.0Ah batteries and charger.
@@Shoptoolreviews damn!!
Everybody always tests these on the max speed setting... Why does nobody test the torque output on the lower speed settings as well? Is it because the torque output is the same on all speed settings and only the rpm changes? If the torque is also lower on the lower speed settings, it would be nice to know approximately what those lower torque figures are for each speed setting...
Why did the torque go down on the 2854 gen3 model?
What do you mean? The torque for the 2854 is 250 lb-ft, which is up from the 2754 model that put out 210 lb-ft.
Just wish these videos were rust belt worthy I bought the thing and it doesn't remove newyork lugnuts
What adapter is that?
Gets the 3/8" anvil and then uses an adaptor to run 1/2" sockets. If only they came in 1/2" version..... lol
Yup! You dance with the one who brung ya. The 3/8" is what I received, so the 3/8" is what I used. AND, it still passed the marketing claims...even with the adapter. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Just sucks that the adaptor is frustrating when it pops off changing sockets. I need to find larger 3/8 sockets at least to a lug nut size
Can we get a review of that torque gun please. How accurate it it and such. That thing cool.
As you wish. We just made it, just for you. :) Just kidding, we already reviewed them. Video link is below. Thanks for watching.
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Getting a 1/2in for sure
Yeah, that's the right call. I'd definitely get the 1/2" if you only get one. Thanks for watching.
Are you supposed to see a thin coat of grease seen at the point the anvil meets the body?
I didn't see it there until I used it for the first time so I'm not sure if my new impact has a bad oring or something.
Looking at the video there aren't many close ups but it's like I can almost see the same on yours.
Yes, on just about any impact, the more you use them, especially if you use them for long periods, the more you will notice grease leaking around the anvil. That mechanism in the nose-cone is filled with grease to keep the impact mechanism lubricated. As it gets hot, it oozes everywhere, and part of it's job is to lubricate the anvil riding against the bushing on the nose-cone. Many mechanics will take these apart each year, clean them up and put more grease in them. Thanks for watching.
Love the review, my only question is does a 3.0 battery effect performance? I’ve been seeing reviews mostly with 5.0/higher for all these tests.
I can tell you with my lower torque impacts I can tell there is a difference between 2 Ah and 4 Ah batteries.
@@KM-os4be That’s what I figured, I just never seen review with lower with 2.0/3.0 batteries but I don’t hold much hopes on 2.0 anyway.
I'm hearing that the 3.0 *High Output* batteries give the same performance as the larger batteries, just slightly less run time. But, yes, the regular 3.0 *CP* batteries probably wouldn't not perform as well.
It really irks me that Milwaukee hasn't released a One-Key version of this tool, or any of their newest tools.
Will they come out with a ONE-KEY mid torque???
I want to buy one but I don't want to waste my money If they are coming out with a better version shortly.
Hi great video good information, is the 2960 same length as the 2962?
Thank you very much. Yes, these are the same length.
Can u try the same test with the rigid Gen 5 mid torque,??
I’m looking for a battery impact for when I put brakes on my cars. Looks like this might be just the ticket for that.
Stubby impact
@@nickhodgson5219 I don’t think they have the torque for it. My craftsman air impact is supposed to be good to 350 lb-ft and it has failed at knocking loose everything I’ve ever tried it out on. That 600 lb-ft sounds like plenty for anything I’d ever use it on.
I would definitely recommend the Mid-Torque. The M12 Stubby is an awesome impact, and it SHOULD be able to break lugs free, IF the lug nuts were put on properly. However, most tire shops install the wheels with their air tools jacked up as high as they'll go, and they drive the lug nuts home at 3x more than they're supposed to. Add some Florida storms or Northern Winters, and those lug nuts won't come off with the Stubby. The Mid-Torque is probably the best all-around impact of the bunch. Thanks for watching.
@@Shoptoolreviews it seems like this is a great around the house impact for weekend warriors like me. That big high torque seems like it’s way more tool than a guy like me needs. I want one for general automotive maintenance around the house but I’m not going to be knocking loose lug nuts from a big rig ever.
@@mramseyISU my stubby hasn't failed me yet when doing brakes
This or the new dewalt that does up to like 900 break away?
I already have other tools in both platforms so only need the bare tool. I actually found this Milwaukee on FB (still new in box) for $160… or $200 plus tax for the Dewalt from Home Depot.
The links you have in the description aren't showing up as hyperlinks, they are only showing up as text so anyone on a mobile device won't be able to click them and people on pc will have to copy and paste them instead of just clicking it. Gotta fix those if they're affiliate links
So sorry about that. They should be fixed now. Thanks for watching.
@@Shoptoolreviews you're all good just trying to make sure you get paid for the work 👍
Impressive
Thanks for watching.
Is it like really loud? I haven’t used mine yet 😅😅😅
You could have had a socket made for this test. Also I could care less about Tightening torque, all fasteners have a specified torque but I want Reverse torque....
Hi, can you make the test of this mid torque with the new fine threaded bolts - like the ones you tested the new makita mid torque? Thank you
Great suggestion! Thanks for watching.
I’d be curious to the forward torque in each mode.
I must have got a dud. Where I work, tried using this exact tool, now granted my battery is smaller, but it couldn't even break 450lbs torqued bolts. I've seen plenty of videos of them doing but for some reason mine couldn't. Now the machine I was working on applying around 4 tons of force apon itself so idk after a month of use, the bolts somehow got tighter. Idk
Is it safe to use with smaller fasteners, especially with its 600 ft. lbs of torque.
Yes great for interior work
I wouldn't, for smaller stuff, look at the 3/8" Milwaukee M12 Stubby.
can u do comparisson with the new dewalt? i seen u only do 600lbs loosening on this video..
Milwaukee over here saving 2020
A 3/8" MID torque impact breaking away 1/2" numbers haha only Milwaukee!
These impacts are truly impressive. Thanks for watching.
Bahhaha dang lucky the milwhakee fan boyz aka "keyboard know it alls" don't attack you as they have me for speaking the truth about them...
How does it compare with Ridgid’s 1/2 mid torque that also has 600 ftlbs of loosening torque?
Can you do a video comparing this milwaukee and the XWT17Z makita?
We're waiting on our XWT17 to arrive any day now. Thanks for watching.
What torque wrench is that. I need something like that to measure the torque off the bolt? Just got the M18. Kicks ace
This is a Proto Electronic Torque Wrench. It's a great tool and works very well.
Greating s from Guatemala will ir remove the bolt from Honda Accord crv Odyssey..???
I'm wondering how it performs with the smaller batteries :-/
Glad I waited, I'm switching to Fuel soon! Bosch, you've been great but basically no innovation and no signs of coming out with new lines up updated tools for all the batteries and chargers i have
Hell, this will retire my blue-point 3/8 pneumatic for the most part. Of course the bluepoint will blow sparks off a nuts and heat it up before before breaking off the nut if it's really stuck on that much. But realistically even here in Chicago i'll only be breaking it out every once in a while and I mostly work on normal cars and trucks
You'll love the M18 FUEL Mid-Torque. You're right about Bosch. They have some great tools, but they let them collect dust for too long before updating or producing a new model. Thanks for watching.