If you want to buy your first impact wrench *buy this one* not the high torque. I started with a high torque, and then got this. You will struggle to find things the mid torque can’t do, but it is much lighter and much slimmer.
@@CoyotePower5.0 you mean 1/2 or 3/8th mid torque? For me, I like the 1/2, my set goes down to 10mm and up to 24mm so it has everything covered. If i’m doing stuff smaller than 10, i’d use a ratchet since those fasteners are
I have the 1/2” drive version of this and I love it. Great power to weight ratio. I use my M12 3/8 drive more but when I want more power this is the dawg.
I’ve heard that the auto stop mode is absolutely fantastic on this impact wrench. By the way, I’ve seen it break free a nut torqued to 650 with a 6 amp battery.
I love mine! Interestingly, the thing I love most is the belt clip. My old one didn't have that, and reaching down to the floor, across the lift, leaving it on the bench, or go forbid accidentally knocking it off my tool stand while holding parts in the air gets old when I can hang it on my pocket instead & have it instantly.
If you are a DIYer and only have to do mid-range work, this would make your life way easier. I have taken everything off from rusted caliper bolts to suspensions. I have a Dodge Charger, a Chevy Equinox and a Nissan Juke so that can tell you what kind of jobs this thing can handle. I had to change the ball bearings on the equinox and that was too much this gun, but I also have a high torque impact and that took it off like butter.
I have the 1/2” drive version of this and absolutely love it. Perfect tool for when I’m working on my truck and my family vehicles. Yeah it might be a little overkill for what I’m using it for, but I’m the type of guy who likes to know that my tool is gonna get the job done and this does just that. Love Milwaukee!
Regarding the belt hook exactly as you said, I like your reaction to that : "These things do not belong on impact wrenches." 😄👍 You are absolutely right. A follower from Europe
Keep in mind folks - high output batteries should be used on fuel tools for the best performance possible. I run this tool with a high output 8.0. Very pleased with it so far.
I think your going to see more half inch impacts sold because of the practicality of the larger sockets. Instead of a larger socket with a adapter for 3/8s. No adapter and probably a stronger sockets for 1/2 inch. I would think a 21mm 3/8s would be a little thinner then a 21mm for a 1/2inch. I just ordered a 1/2 inch impact with 2 batteries ,charger and case. Mostly for lug nuts and some larger car nuts for like bumpers and suspension stuff. Its a bit overkill but, if you go easy on the stuff you loosening it should be ok. On the sockets and whatever your loosening/ tightening. To be realistic. Your doing a test. Not true to the real life conditions like rust and corrosion. Its a little different.. so results vary but, a great way to start.
Great tool, saved my bacon a few times in regards to time and headaches. This in the 1/2" and the Stubby in 3/8", two awesome tools that work hand in glove together.
Excellent channel and always comprehensive very well-presented reviews👍🏽 That LION torque gun is no joke, the Gen 2 Milwaukee Mid Torque is a really nice and versatile impact. The Gen 1 is still a good impact, my main peeve being it lacks a proper light. The precision wrench mode is another nice feature of the new model that saves time and prevents over-torquing, all in a smaller more powerful package. I have to think Milwaukee will be massaging their High Torque model soon.
Thank you very much. These LION guns are amazing, really. The Mid-Torque is very versatile and has a ton of power for the size. Yes, I agree, the Gen 1 is still a great gun as well, and you're right, the light is the weak point. We hope to see a new version of the High Torque soon, with the better lighting. Thanks for watching.
Can currently get the 2962 with (2) 6.0AH High Output batteries and charger for $269 at Home Depot for the July 4th sale! Just ordered it today. I know it's a Gen 2and a few years old now but they don't yet have a Gen-3 version for mid-torque. Still seems like a great gun though. I've used the crap out of my 1/4in M18 Fuel Impact Driver but I'm excited to finally be able to do wheels and brakes with a cordless gun!
I'm a dealership technician and I already have the 3/8 m12 stubby. Favorite cordless tool in the box. Problem I have found is that it doesn't have enough power to break loose 80% of the suspension and brake fasteners especially here in the rust belt. I was thinking a 3/8 in mid torque for that and 1/2 high torque for lug nuts and larger fasteners. Thoughts? My 3/8 impact sets go from 8 to 24mm and I already have mostly 3/8 impact swivels and sockets.
Yes, that would be a great choice for you. I couldn't recommend it any different. You'll probably use that Mid-Torque the most, once you have it. Thanks for watching.
The Mid-Torque is an awesome unit and it works for most jobs. The High Torque is great too, but not needed very much when you have the Mid-Torque. Thanks for watching.
I just don’t see a 3/8” drive socket sizes usually limited to around 19mm maybe sightly higher depending on brand going up to 650ft lbs. I’d rather have 1/2” drive since the tend to go from around 10mm up to 36mm.
@@Shoptoolreviews very happy with it. I'm use this milwaukee 3/8 impact 80% of the time when wrenching. So much nut busting to, I especially love the 4th setting for taking off wheel lug nuts. Now I just gotta figure what I'm gonna with the extra 3/8 's I have hahaha.
Are you supposed to see a thin coat of grease seen at the point the anvil meets the body? I didn't see it there until I used it for the first time so I'm not sure if my new impact has a bad oring or something. Looking at the video there aren't many close ups but it's like I can almost see the same on yours.
Yes, on just about any impact, the more you use them, especially if you use them for long periods, the more you will notice grease leaking around the anvil. That mechanism in the nose-cone is filled with grease to keep the impact mechanism lubricated. As it gets hot, it oozes everywhere, and part of it's job is to lubricate the anvil riding against the bushing on the nose-cone. Many mechanics will take these apart each year, clean them up and put more grease in them. Thanks for watching.
There's another channel that has custom made 3/8" drive impact sockets to test these 3/8" impact wrenches, If I remember correctly I think it's 3/8" drive 33mm or 34mm impact sockets.
Today September 1st 2021, the Milwaukee mid torque + 5ah battery is selling for (219 +tax at home depot). [The dewalt mid torque + tool bag + 5ah + 3/8 dcf890 150 ft/lb impact wrench + charger dcb107 ] is selling for 250 +tax at Lowe's...
got the 2962 with a m18 5.0 battery for 160 on offerup, not bad. Got the charger for $15 on ebay so in total 175 for the 2962 with a good battery and charger.
Got mine deliver today but wasn’t the 1/2 it was the 3/8 model needed a mid torque for lug nuts at Nissan dealership let’s see how it dose on Monday with adapter for 1/2 sockets
Everybody always tests these on the max speed setting... Why does nobody test the torque output on the lower speed settings as well? Is it because the torque output is the same on all speed settings and only the rpm changes? If the torque is also lower on the lower speed settings, it would be nice to know approximately what those lower torque figures are for each speed setting...
Thanks for the great video! I just got the friction ring 2962 today. I found the anvil has some back-and-forth play. Quite noticeable when pulling/pushing the anvil or even when raising and lowering the tool. Is this normal? Or do you notice this on the model you tested? Is it possible that the teflon (or metallic) washer/bushing for the anvil is too thin?
This or the new dewalt that does up to like 900 break away? I already have other tools in both platforms so only need the bare tool. I actually found this Milwaukee on FB (still new in box) for $160… or $200 plus tax for the Dewalt from Home Depot.
This video is incomplete because it only shows this instrument reproducing up to 500 units of torque, while previously we were able to see the maximum torque. Comparatively speaking, if someone were comparing that with a Kobalt 24 max tool that can handle 1000 units of torque, the Kobalt tool may be preferable, and it costs $90 less.
Well Milwaukee is definitely more expensive but they are definitely the best in most categories. The old saying of “you get what you pay for” rings true for this example.
I must have got a dud. Where I work, tried using this exact tool, now granted my battery is smaller, but it couldn't even break 450lbs torqued bolts. I've seen plenty of videos of them doing but for some reason mine couldn't. Now the machine I was working on applying around 4 tons of force apon itself so idk after a month of use, the bolts somehow got tighter. Idk
I think you have it the other way around. According to the Milwaukee literature and website: Fastening torque: 650 ft-lb Nut busting torque: 550 ft-lb I must admit I'm puzzled by this design decision... Normally you need more torque to loosen rather than tighten. Now I get that with impact wrenches (as they don't apply uniform torque) the advertised torque rating depends on various parameters; so, it may indeed be that the REAL-WORLD loosening torque exceeds the tightening torque depending on how the strikes are applied.
Question fellas .. I'm no mechanic but want one for at home automotive project. It would make more sense to just get the 3/8 right? If I need to use the 1/2 inch I can just buy an adapter right?
@@whatfreedom7 Which did you purchase the 3/8" or 1/2" or both? How is it? If 1/2", how does the 5 amp bat hold up? Debating if I should get maybe 8 amp since it'll be heavy used. Thank you.
@@firstlast6566 I got the 1/2”. Honestly so far it’s only been occasional light use so I can’t really give a lot of feedback yet. My 5.0 battery I haven’t had to even swap it out yet. Depending on what your going to be doing idk that you would really need a battery that big plus it’s more weight. Sorry wish I could tell you more.
@@whatfreedom7 Thanks for the feedback, I'm a HD diesel mechanic but work on earth moving machinery to pick ups to class 8 and retired military trucks. I agree it might be overkill, I think the 5 should be fine it seems to be what most reviewers test with too, thanks again cheers.
I have the M12 3/8" stubby and I absolutely love it. I use it for working on cars and I appreciate the M12's CP battery for hard-to-reach. 250 ft/lbs of nut busting torque is enough for me in my opinion. Had a VERY rusty sway bar link (Canadian winters) and my stubby removed it no problem. Very impressed. If you work on big, heavy-duty equipments (farm equipments or whatnot), the M18 Mid-Torque would be the better choice for sure.
I have to choose the Mid-Torque, if I could only choose one. I absolutely love the Stubby (M12) and Compact (M18), but there are many times that I have to get the big brother to accomplish the task. Especially, if you're dealing with lug nuts, the Stubby/Compact just don't have the ugga-duggas to break free what other tire shops have done. YES, another clip has bit the dust.😉 Thanks so much for watching and commenting.
Does the compact battery reduce the torque output available or just how much overall work it can do before needing to recharge? Also, I just watched a previous review that resulted in the torque of the 2960 was higher than the 2962. Have you found out why? Thanks, Steve
Will they come out with a ONE-KEY mid torque??? I want to buy one but I don't want to waste my money If they are coming out with a better version shortly.
Great video, the way things are going I wouldn’t be surprised if you find a 3/8 drive 33mm socket. These impacts are getting stronger and stronger. I wonder if socket sets will get bigger for 3/8 drive also. Instead of seeing 8mm-19mm maybe 8mm- to 32mm Or 3/8- 1 1/4 since they have so much torque
I know what you mean. We are really reaching a point to wear these impacts will start destroying sockets. We've already seen this in testing with our 1/2" High Torque models. After extensive use, the sockets were starting to fail where the anvil entered the socket. Thanks for watching
Why did they go down on torque specs , going into the gen3 ? Is there a mid torque 3/8 impact wrench gen3 ? , I'm definitely wanting the gen2 mid torque if not , ... I'm a milwaukee fan personally, but I'm in need of tool insight 😊
They didn't go down. The gen1 Mid-Torque (2860) was 450 ft-lbs Fastening torque and 600 ft-lbs Nut-Busting torque. That was a lot bigger physically as well. This is stronger and smaller, and has a much better LED light. Thanks for watching.
So I have the 2960 model and this weekend I was doing some CV axles and the 12mm bolts were only about 35 foot pounds and I went to remove one in mode 1 nothing so I selected mode 3 and it snapped the bolt off ! Lol like wow 😳 ended up doing the job by ratchet but what mode should I have had it in to not fear snapping off bolts ?? Mode 4 ?? Or just each mode up from 1 until it removes it ..cuz 3 was way to much beans
@@michaelwright1602 I've got the big bad ass 1/2 inch high torque and also the 3/8 mid torque ..idk about the stubby impact ..I've learned a lot since this happened anyways
I’m on the fence. I’m needing an impact for diy auto maintenance for a 3/4 ton truck and a couple of corollas. I have plans to rebuild an old mustang also. I’m considering the m18 1/2 mid torque and the Kobalt XTR which comes with their right angle impact for free right now. Any help deciding would be appreciated.
To be honest, it would be hard to pass up getting that right angle impact for free. That's a deal. As for the impact wrenches, I think the Milwaukee High Torque is more powerful than the XTR. However, the XTR is definitely more powerful than the M18 Mid-Torque. If you're working on a 3/4-ton truck, I would not get the mid-torque. You'll be better off with the M18 High Torque or the Kobalt XTR. Thanks for watching.
As you wish. We just made it, just for you. :) Just kidding, we already reviewed them. Video link is below. Thanks for watching. th-cam.com/video/yALFkJz0iSs/w-d-xo.html
@@N.Hodgson I don’t think they have the torque for it. My craftsman air impact is supposed to be good to 350 lb-ft and it has failed at knocking loose everything I’ve ever tried it out on. That 600 lb-ft sounds like plenty for anything I’d ever use it on.
I would definitely recommend the Mid-Torque. The M12 Stubby is an awesome impact, and it SHOULD be able to break lugs free, IF the lug nuts were put on properly. However, most tire shops install the wheels with their air tools jacked up as high as they'll go, and they drive the lug nuts home at 3x more than they're supposed to. Add some Florida storms or Northern Winters, and those lug nuts won't come off with the Stubby. The Mid-Torque is probably the best all-around impact of the bunch. Thanks for watching.
@@Shoptoolreviews it seems like this is a great around the house impact for weekend warriors like me. That big high torque seems like it’s way more tool than a guy like me needs. I want one for general automotive maintenance around the house but I’m not going to be knocking loose lug nuts from a big rig ever.
The links you have in the description aren't showing up as hyperlinks, they are only showing up as text so anyone on a mobile device won't be able to click them and people on pc will have to copy and paste them instead of just clicking it. Gotta fix those if they're affiliate links
I'm hearing that the 3.0 *High Output* batteries give the same performance as the larger batteries, just slightly less run time. But, yes, the regular 3.0 *CP* batteries probably wouldn't not perform as well.
Probably not. I'd recommend the High-Torque if you're changing tires all day and you could only choose one impact. However, if you could buy a second impact, then I'd recommend the Mid-Torque. The Mid will probably handle 90% of your work, then you'd have the heavier and stronger High-Torque to get you out of the jamb. Thanks for watching.
Depends what the tires are on. I have the gen 1 mid torque and I do suspensions all day and it'll handle most lugs for a car. Might struggle on semi tires, but your typical daily driver, yes it'll remove them all day.
If you want to buy your first impact wrench *buy this one* not the high torque. I started with a high torque, and then got this. You will struggle to find things the mid torque can’t do, but it is much lighter and much slimmer.
Would you recommend 1/2 in or 3/8 for suspension work?
@@CoyotePower5.0 you mean 1/2 or 3/8th mid torque? For me, I like the 1/2, my set goes down to 10mm and up to 24mm so it has everything covered. If i’m doing stuff smaller than 10, i’d use a ratchet since those fasteners are
Thanks! Was debating
I have the 1/2” drive version of this and I love it. Great power to weight ratio. I use my M12 3/8 drive more but when I want more power this is the dawg.
I ordered this yesterday, before watching this video... now I'm even more certain of my decision.
This thing is a beast. I would get the 2962 1/2 version and just buy an 1/2 to 3/8 adapter I think that is more practical
I’ve heard that the auto stop mode is absolutely fantastic on this impact wrench.
By the way, I’ve seen it break free a nut torqued to 650 with a 6 amp battery.
I love mine!
Interestingly, the thing I love most is the belt clip.
My old one didn't have that, and reaching down to the floor, across the lift, leaving it on the bench, or go forbid accidentally knocking it off my tool stand while holding parts in the air gets old when I can hang it on my pocket instead & have it instantly.
Awesome, that's great that you like the belt clip. It's a great impact. Thanks for watching.
If you are a DIYer and only have to do mid-range work, this would make your life way easier. I have taken everything off from rusted caliper bolts to suspensions. I have a Dodge Charger, a Chevy Equinox and a Nissan Juke so that can tell you what kind of jobs this thing can handle. I had to change the ball bearings on the equinox and that was too much this gun, but I also have a high torque impact and that took it off like butter.
I have the 1/2” drive version of this and absolutely love it. Perfect tool for when I’m working on my truck and my family vehicles. Yeah it might be a little overkill for what I’m using it for, but I’m the type of guy who likes to know that my tool is gonna get the job done and this does just that. Love Milwaukee!
Regarding the belt hook exactly as you said, I like your reaction to that : "These things do not belong on impact wrenches." 😄👍 You are absolutely right.
A follower from Europe
As a mobile technician who has to work on rooftop/elevated equipment, the belt clip is definitely handy on impact guns.
Absolutely, the belt clips work great for certain scenario. I'm just having a little fun with that. Thanks for watching.
Keep in mind folks - high output batteries should be used on fuel tools for the best performance possible. I run this tool with a high output 8.0. Very pleased with it so far.
I know it’s been a while but did you notice a power difference when using the high output compared to the regular 5.0 batteries
What about forge?
I’m going to promote your channel this Friday. Love your channel bro
Hey brother, I really appreciate that. You're knocking out the videos. Keep up the great work.
@@Shoptoolreviews I thank you sir
I think your going to see more half inch impacts sold because of the practicality of the larger sockets. Instead of a larger socket with a adapter for 3/8s. No adapter and probably a stronger sockets for 1/2 inch. I would think a 21mm 3/8s would be a little thinner then a 21mm for a 1/2inch. I just ordered a 1/2 inch impact with 2 batteries ,charger and case. Mostly for lug nuts and some larger car nuts for like bumpers and suspension stuff. Its a bit overkill but, if you go easy on the stuff you loosening it should be ok. On the sockets and whatever your loosening/ tightening. To be realistic. Your doing a test. Not true to the real life conditions like rust and corrosion. Its a little different.. so results vary but, a great way to start.
Great tool, saved my bacon a few times in regards to time and headaches. This in the 1/2" and the Stubby in 3/8", two awesome tools that work hand in glove together.
Excellent channel and always comprehensive very well-presented reviews👍🏽 That LION torque gun is no joke, the Gen 2 Milwaukee Mid Torque is a really nice and versatile impact. The Gen 1 is still a good impact, my main peeve being it lacks a proper light. The precision wrench mode is another nice feature of the new model that saves time and prevents over-torquing, all in a smaller more powerful package. I have to think Milwaukee will be massaging their High Torque model soon.
Thank you very much. These LION guns are amazing, really. The Mid-Torque is very versatile and has a ton of power for the size. Yes, I agree, the Gen 1 is still a great gun as well, and you're right, the light is the weak point. We hope to see a new version of the High Torque soon, with the better lighting. Thanks for watching.
That is very impressive !!! Wow, with adapters no less. Great video tim. 👍
I appreciate it. As always, thanks for watching and have a great week.
I work for Amazon, got this with employee discount, amazing, thanks for the reviews!
I saw the video and I fell in love with this, thanks I already have mine and it's worth it!
Hold the phone! A torque gun! I didn't know of its existence.
Thats what im saying, im not even interested in the impact wrench lol i want a review on that
I’m looking for torque wrench myself anyone find
It’s like 7k. I’ll use the manual one 😂
@@theguimanruben its closer to $4k but still, thats a bit of a flex lol
Like Ruben said it's about 4 grand
Can currently get the 2962 with (2) 6.0AH High Output batteries and charger for $269 at Home Depot for the July 4th sale! Just ordered it today. I know it's a Gen 2and a few years old now but they don't yet have a Gen-3 version for mid-torque. Still seems like a great gun though. I've used the crap out of my 1/4in M18 Fuel Impact Driver but I'm excited to finally be able to do wheels and brakes with a cordless gun!
I just ordered this tool after your video, I got the combo kit with half inch drive friction ring and two 5 amp hour batteries.
You'll love this kit. This little mid-torque is a beast. Let us know what you think. Thanks for watching.
Those 5.0s gonna both last all day? Looking at either that set or just going with one 8.0
The first thing I did with my new mid torque was take out the clip also lol.
Great minds think alike.😉 Thanks for watching.
Hangs on everything
Same.
Can tell a carpenter from a mechanic by their tool setup lol
Imagine if it had a strong ass magnet instead 😎✌️
Just got home with the 1/2 inch mid torque, the first thing I looked to see was what screw diver bit is required to remove the belt clip.
I removed it with a regular flat head screwdriver
Solid, informative video on a fabulous tool.
Well thought out presentation. Answered all my questions so I can make the purchase.
my 3/8 stubby makes sense at 3/8, but after that 1/2 for a tool with the capability as shown in the video.
That little stubby is a great little impact, and this new mid-torque is a beast. Thanks for watching.
Great video..just got my 1/2” compact and mid torque...just waiting to buy the boots... thanks again 👍
Awesome, it's great to hear. Thanks for watching.
Just ordered 1/2 mid torque gen 2 with 5amp battery from home depot for $219 today sale ends tomorrow 👍
I'm a dealership technician and I already have the 3/8 m12 stubby. Favorite cordless tool in the box. Problem I have found is that it doesn't have enough power to break loose 80% of the suspension and brake fasteners especially here in the rust belt. I was thinking a 3/8 in mid torque for that and 1/2 high torque for lug nuts and larger fasteners. Thoughts? My 3/8 impact sets go from 8 to 24mm and I already have mostly 3/8 impact swivels and sockets.
Yes, that would be a great choice for you. I couldn't recommend it any different. You'll probably use that Mid-Torque the most, once you have it. Thanks for watching.
Love my 3/8ths midtorque I've only needed my big high torque twice since getting it for torque reasons. For socket reasons four times I think
The Mid-Torque is an awesome unit and it works for most jobs. The High Torque is great too, but not needed very much when you have the Mid-Torque. Thanks for watching.
Great video straight to the point and keeping it simple and very informative .
Great review lighter and strong with a good light i gotta have it
I just don’t see a 3/8” drive socket sizes usually limited to around 19mm maybe sightly higher depending on brand going up to 650ft lbs. I’d rather have 1/2” drive since the tend to go from around 10mm up to 36mm.
Yes, that's probably a smarter choice. This 3/8" was the first Mid-Torque we received so that's what we used. Thanks for watching.
Just bought me one today brand new off Facebook for 65 bucks lol I love it
If you bought one of these for $65, then you got a steal of a deal. Thanks for watching.
Ended up buying this tool to replace my 3/8 cordless snap on impact.
Are you happy with it? Thanks for watching.
@@Shoptoolreviews very happy with it. I'm use this milwaukee 3/8 impact 80% of the time when wrenching. So much nut busting to, I especially love the 4th setting for taking off wheel lug nuts. Now I just gotta figure what I'm gonna with the extra 3/8 's I have hahaha.
I just bought the 3/8 m18 for $140 bucks. Can’t wait to use it.
Thanks for the useful information to help me with my purchasing decision.😊
My 1/2 has broken seized lug studs off but it took 110% and it had the Milwaukee deep well sockets
Thanks for the tests. I just bought the tools and a 2 pack of Batteries for 430$, including tax. XC 6.0 Batteries were on sale.
Great to hear, glad you got a deal on it. Great choice on the 6.0. Thanks for watching.
@@Shoptoolreviews Its here! Time to Play.
Watched a video on the torque test channel those 3/8 to 1/2 adapter account for about a 27 percent loss in torque numbers 😢
Are you supposed to see a thin coat of grease seen at the point the anvil meets the body?
I didn't see it there until I used it for the first time so I'm not sure if my new impact has a bad oring or something.
Looking at the video there aren't many close ups but it's like I can almost see the same on yours.
Yes, on just about any impact, the more you use them, especially if you use them for long periods, the more you will notice grease leaking around the anvil. That mechanism in the nose-cone is filled with grease to keep the impact mechanism lubricated. As it gets hot, it oozes everywhere, and part of it's job is to lubricate the anvil riding against the bushing on the nose-cone. Many mechanics will take these apart each year, clean them up and put more grease in them. Thanks for watching.
So what's the torque on 1-2-3 modes?? Wouldn't it be easier to just type the torque out?
There's another channel that has custom made 3/8" drive impact sockets to test these 3/8" impact wrenches, If I remember correctly I think it's 3/8" drive 33mm or 34mm impact sockets.
Today September 1st 2021, the Milwaukee mid torque + 5ah battery is selling for (219 +tax at home depot). [The dewalt mid torque + tool bag + 5ah + 3/8 dcf890 150 ft/lb impact wrench + charger dcb107 ] is selling for 250 +tax at Lowe's...
got the 2962 with a m18 5.0 battery for 160 on offerup, not bad. Got the charger for $15 on ebay so in total 175 for the 2962 with a good battery and charger.
Great review, thanks
Thanks for watching! I really appreciate the comment.
Good works, wondering could you do a torque comparison between new and old mid torque? Also a comparison between new compact and m12 stubby?
Great suggestion! In fact, we're already planning for this. We'll be comparing these and a lot more.😉 Thanks for watching.
Got mine deliver today but wasn’t the 1/2 it was the 3/8 model needed a mid torque for lug nuts at Nissan dealership let’s see how it dose on Monday with adapter for 1/2 sockets
On sale right now for $299 at Home Depot. 2 Batteries and charger
I've got a very stubborn crankshaft and just came home from buying this. Well find out how it goes in the morning. Wish me luck.
Can u try the same test with the rigid Gen 5 mid torque,??
Excellent video What is the specs of grey torque wrench you are using please
Just purchased mine from homedepot should be here soon!!
You'll love this Mid-Torque. Let us know what you think. Thanks for watching.
Getting mine for Christmas. Went ahead and bought two 5.0 batteries for it.
Everybody always tests these on the max speed setting... Why does nobody test the torque output on the lower speed settings as well? Is it because the torque output is the same on all speed settings and only the rpm changes? If the torque is also lower on the lower speed settings, it would be nice to know approximately what those lower torque figures are for each speed setting...
Can you do a teardown on this impact? Can you swap anvils from a pin detent to a hog ring?
Doesn’t this one have a hog ring?
I ordered a 2962p which has a pin detent and i regret buying it haha
I have the 2962 and broke the plastic trigger.
Why did the torque go down on the 2854 gen3 model?
What do you mean? The torque for the 2854 is 250 lb-ft, which is up from the 2754 model that put out 210 lb-ft.
You should retest the M18 mid torque with a 6Ah HO battery with your new bolt and buy set up, just to see how high it can break.
Thanks for the great video! I just got the friction ring 2962 today. I found the anvil has some back-and-forth play. Quite noticeable when pulling/pushing the anvil or even when raising and lowering the tool. Is this normal? Or do you notice this on the model you tested? Is it possible that the teflon (or metallic) washer/bushing for the anvil is too thin?
Mine moves back and forth too
I noticed this also. Seems normal. Hopefully hahaha
How does it compare with Ridgid’s 1/2 mid torque that also has 600 ftlbs of loosening torque?
This or the new dewalt that does up to like 900 break away?
I already have other tools in both platforms so only need the bare tool. I actually found this Milwaukee on FB (still new in box) for $160… or $200 plus tax for the Dewalt from Home Depot.
This video is incomplete because it only shows this instrument reproducing up to 500 units of torque, while previously we were able to see the maximum torque. Comparatively speaking, if someone were comparing that with a Kobalt 24 max tool that can handle 1000 units of torque, the Kobalt tool may be preferable, and it costs $90 less.
Can you do a versus comparing it to the 12 volts stubby one .. talking difference on torque, price etc ..
The Stubby and Mid-Torque are not even close in power. The Mid-Torque has much more power. Thanks for watching.
Stubby is nice for 3/8” stuff and smaller 1/2” stuff and low torque/tight space applications other wise this one is superior.
I went over to Kobalt 24V system 2 years ago. Milwaukee has gotten to proud of their prices.
The Kobalt 24V tools are no slouch, that's for sure. Thanks for watching.
Well Milwaukee is definitely more expensive but they are definitely the best in most categories. The old saying of “you get what you pay for” rings true for this example.
I must have got a dud. Where I work, tried using this exact tool, now granted my battery is smaller, but it couldn't even break 450lbs torqued bolts. I've seen plenty of videos of them doing but for some reason mine couldn't. Now the machine I was working on applying around 4 tons of force apon itself so idk after a month of use, the bolts somehow got tighter. Idk
Can we do this again with the new forge battery!??
Greating s from Guatemala will ir remove the bolt from Honda Accord crv Odyssey..???
I’d be curious to the forward torque in each mode.
Nice video sir... You got yourself a new subscriber!! 😎
Welcome aboard! Thank you very much and thanks for watching.
can u do comparisson with the new dewalt? i seen u only do 600lbs loosening on this video..
Just got the set up with 2 5.0amp batteries and case and charger plus tool for $349
I think you have it the other way around. According to the Milwaukee literature and website:
Fastening torque: 650 ft-lb
Nut busting torque: 550 ft-lb
I must admit I'm puzzled by this design decision... Normally you need more torque to loosen rather than tighten. Now I get that with impact wrenches (as they don't apply uniform torque) the advertised torque rating depends on various parameters; so, it may indeed be that the REAL-WORLD loosening torque exceeds the tightening torque depending on how the strikes are applied.
Question fellas .. I'm no mechanic but want one for at home automotive project. It would make more sense to just get the 3/8 right? If I need to use the 1/2 inch I can just buy an adapter right?
If you just want it for a car or light truck, then yes. If you have a 3/4-ton or 1-ton truck, then I'd recommend the 1/2" impact. Thanks for watching.
@@Shoptoolreviews appreciate the feedback man. Thanks
Sick impact! Can't wait to purchase it
It's awesome, and you'll love it. Let us know what you think when you get it. I have the links in the desciption. Thanks for watching.
That’s my Christmas present this year. Just ordered me two 5.0 batteries to go with it.
@@whatfreedom7 Which did you purchase the 3/8" or 1/2" or both? How is it? If 1/2", how does the 5 amp bat hold up? Debating if I should get maybe 8 amp since it'll be heavy used. Thank you.
@@firstlast6566 I got the 1/2”. Honestly so far it’s only been occasional light use so I can’t really give a lot of feedback yet. My 5.0 battery I haven’t had to even swap it out yet. Depending on what your going to be doing idk that you would really need a battery that big plus it’s more weight. Sorry wish I could tell you more.
@@whatfreedom7 Thanks for the feedback, I'm a HD diesel mechanic but work on earth moving machinery to pick ups to class 8 and retired military trucks. I agree it might be overkill, I think the 5 should be fine it seems to be what most reviewers test with too, thanks again cheers.
Hi, can you make the test of this mid torque with the new fine threaded bolts - like the ones you tested the new makita mid torque? Thank you
Great suggestion! Thanks for watching.
And another clip hits the the road!
So Tim, this model or the Stubby?
I have the M12 3/8" stubby and I absolutely love it. I use it for working on cars and I appreciate the M12's CP battery for hard-to-reach. 250 ft/lbs of nut busting torque is enough for me in my opinion. Had a VERY rusty sway bar link (Canadian winters) and my stubby removed it no problem. Very impressed.
If you work on big, heavy-duty equipments (farm equipments or whatnot), the M18 Mid-Torque would be the better choice for sure.
I have to choose the Mid-Torque, if I could only choose one. I absolutely love the Stubby (M12) and Compact (M18), but there are many times that I have to get the big brother to accomplish the task. Especially, if you're dealing with lug nuts, the Stubby/Compact just don't have the ugga-duggas to break free what other tire shops have done. YES, another clip has bit the dust.😉 Thanks so much for watching and commenting.
Does the compact battery reduce the torque output available or just how much overall work it can do before needing to recharge? Also,
I just watched a previous review that resulted in the torque of the 2960 was higher than the 2962. Have you found out why?
Thanks,
Steve
CP 3.0 does not reduce the torque! 3/8th seems to be the magic size... Less mass to spin on the anvil is probably why
Is it like really loud? I haven’t used mine yet 😅😅😅
Will they come out with a ONE-KEY mid torque???
I want to buy one but I don't want to waste my money If they are coming out with a better version shortly.
Great video, the way things are going I wouldn’t be surprised if you find a 3/8 drive 33mm socket. These impacts are getting stronger and stronger. I wonder if socket sets will get bigger for 3/8 drive also. Instead of seeing 8mm-19mm maybe 8mm- to 32mm
Or 3/8- 1 1/4 since they have so much torque
I know what you mean. We are really reaching a point to wear these impacts will start destroying sockets. We've already seen this in testing with our 1/2" High Torque models. After extensive use, the sockets were starting to fail where the anvil entered the socket. Thanks for watching
Why did they go down on torque specs , going into the gen3 ? Is there a mid torque 3/8 impact wrench gen3 ? , I'm definitely wanting the gen2 mid torque if not , ... I'm a milwaukee fan personally, but I'm in need of tool insight 😊
They didn't go down. The gen1 Mid-Torque (2860) was 450 ft-lbs Fastening torque and 600 ft-lbs Nut-Busting torque. That was a lot bigger physically as well. This is stronger and smaller, and has a much better LED light. Thanks for watching.
So I have the 2960 model and this weekend I was doing some CV axles and the 12mm bolts were only about 35 foot pounds and I went to remove one in mode 1 nothing so I selected mode 3 and it snapped the bolt off ! Lol like wow 😳 ended up doing the job by ratchet but what mode should I have had it in to not fear snapping off bolts ?? Mode 4 ?? Or just each mode up from 1 until it removes it ..cuz 3 was way to much beans
Sounds like you need the Milwaukee Stubby... ;-)
@@michaelwright1602 I've got the big bad ass 1/2 inch high torque and also the 3/8 mid torque ..idk about the stubby impact ..I've learned a lot since this happened anyways
@@roger2276 The Stubby is incredible in power and in its compact size. Pretty much my go to impact for Class 8 diesel work.
Where you get that torque gun you used to tighten the bolts up??????
Nice review I might pickup the kit.
I think you'll be really happy. Thanks for watching.
I’m on the fence. I’m needing an impact for diy auto maintenance for a 3/4 ton truck and a couple of corollas. I have plans to rebuild an old mustang also. I’m considering the m18 1/2 mid torque and the Kobalt XTR which comes with their right angle impact for free right now. Any help deciding would be appreciated.
To be honest, it would be hard to pass up getting that right angle impact for free. That's a deal. As for the impact wrenches, I think the Milwaukee High Torque is more powerful than the XTR. However, the XTR is definitely more powerful than the M18 Mid-Torque. If you're working on a 3/4-ton truck, I would not get the mid-torque. You'll be better off with the M18 High Torque or the Kobalt XTR. Thanks for watching.
Can we get a review of that torque gun please. How accurate it it and such. That thing cool.
As you wish. We just made it, just for you. :) Just kidding, we already reviewed them. Video link is below. Thanks for watching.
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Is it safe to use with smaller fasteners, especially with its 600 ft. lbs of torque.
Yes great for interior work
I wouldn't, for smaller stuff, look at the 3/8" Milwaukee M12 Stubby.
What adapter is that?
Thanks for explaining mode 4
You're welcome. Thanks for watching.
can u do the old mid torque on this?
please thank you
We will have a video that compares the Gen1 to the Gen2. Thanks for watching.
@@Shoptoolreviews YES! cant wait haha Thank you
I’m looking for a battery impact for when I put brakes on my cars. Looks like this might be just the ticket for that.
Stubby impact
@@N.Hodgson I don’t think they have the torque for it. My craftsman air impact is supposed to be good to 350 lb-ft and it has failed at knocking loose everything I’ve ever tried it out on. That 600 lb-ft sounds like plenty for anything I’d ever use it on.
I would definitely recommend the Mid-Torque. The M12 Stubby is an awesome impact, and it SHOULD be able to break lugs free, IF the lug nuts were put on properly. However, most tire shops install the wheels with their air tools jacked up as high as they'll go, and they drive the lug nuts home at 3x more than they're supposed to. Add some Florida storms or Northern Winters, and those lug nuts won't come off with the Stubby. The Mid-Torque is probably the best all-around impact of the bunch. Thanks for watching.
@@Shoptoolreviews it seems like this is a great around the house impact for weekend warriors like me. That big high torque seems like it’s way more tool than a guy like me needs. I want one for general automotive maintenance around the house but I’m not going to be knocking loose lug nuts from a big rig ever.
@@mramseyISU my stubby hasn't failed me yet when doing brakes
The links you have in the description aren't showing up as hyperlinks, they are only showing up as text so anyone on a mobile device won't be able to click them and people on pc will have to copy and paste them instead of just clicking it. Gotta fix those if they're affiliate links
So sorry about that. They should be fixed now. Thanks for watching.
@@Shoptoolreviews you're all good just trying to make sure you get paid for the work 👍
What torque wrench is that. I need something like that to measure the torque off the bolt? Just got the M18. Kicks ace
This is a Proto Electronic Torque Wrench. It's a great tool and works very well.
Do they still offer one "mode free"?
Can you do a video comparing this milwaukee and the XWT17Z makita?
We're waiting on our XWT17 to arrive any day now. Thanks for watching.
Love the review, my only question is does a 3.0 battery effect performance? I’ve been seeing reviews mostly with 5.0/higher for all these tests.
I can tell you with my lower torque impacts I can tell there is a difference between 2 Ah and 4 Ah batteries.
@@KM-os4be That’s what I figured, I just never seen review with lower with 2.0/3.0 batteries but I don’t hold much hopes on 2.0 anyway.
I'm hearing that the 3.0 *High Output* batteries give the same performance as the larger batteries, just slightly less run time. But, yes, the regular 3.0 *CP* batteries probably wouldn't not perform as well.
Hi great video good information, is the 2960 same length as the 2962?
Thank you very much. Yes, these are the same length.
what brand is that adapter? hold the socket very well
Husky Tools from Home Depot. Thanks for watching.
@@Shoptoolreviews thanks to you for the answer.
That 1/2 " to 3/8 robs torque
So in theory it’s stronger than 600... on good clean nuts/bolts
It does rob a little torque, but not as much as you might think. We will produce a new video that will address this concern. Thanks for watching.
@@Shoptoolreviews love the channel
Would you recommend this for changing tires almost all day?
Probably not. I'd recommend the High-Torque if you're changing tires all day and you could only choose one impact. However, if you could buy a second impact, then I'd recommend the Mid-Torque. The Mid will probably handle 90% of your work, then you'd have the heavier and stronger High-Torque to get you out of the jamb. Thanks for watching.
Depends what the tires are on. I have the gen 1 mid torque and I do suspensions all day and it'll handle most lugs for a car. Might struggle on semi tires, but your typical daily driver, yes it'll remove them all day.
When you do review new dewalt Dcf 901? Thanks
Still waiting for it to get here. We're hoping very soon. Thanks for watching.
@@Shoptoolreviews thanks, good job👍