Learn more about the Biomax at aferg.co/redlight and be sure to use the discount code you get on the screen to save Check my epic Facebook group on red light therapy and more: aferg.co/fb-group And if you want to skip to a specific section, consider: 0:32 Introduction into Joovv and Platinum Biomax 2:30 Metrics for comparison 4:04 Round 1: comparing price and shipping 5:18 Round 2: EMF and ELF levels 8:40 Round 3: power output 11:04 Round 4: flicker 12:30 Round 5: sound 13:58: Round 6: LEDs 14:48 Round 7: Wavelengths 16:45 Round 8: Warranty 18:00 Overall assessment
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Thanks for the informative video! How about the build quality between the 2 panels, or compared to other panels? These red light panels are interesting, but expensive so I'd want a high quality panel that will last through a lot of use in my office.
Alex, thank you for your reviews. I've been looking at Joovv Duo or Quad, and Mito Red MEGA. Came across your channel and am impressed with your reviews. Have you looked at the Mito Red MEGA vs the Platinum LED Biomax 900? Interested in your thoughts before I pull the trigger. Thank you in advance.
Thank you for review. I’d only heard of joovv but then stumbled upon platinum and wanted to make sure it was legit. Looks like it is! I will most likely be purchasing a small device for a foot injury that isn’t healing well. Though I can’t afford biomax will just go with the regular bio series.. Edit: Dang just bought it. A little freaked on the price/not knowing if it’ll work but gotta try something 😂😂😅 So many legit studies on infrared light therapy on sports injuries though. I’m sure it’s gotta help something
How did it work for you? I started using for an ankle injury, mostly tendonitis at this point, but it's a long time after the injury and following surgery. I have noticed noticeable results after a few uses, but haven't bought my own panel yet
Thank you very much for being honest about your reviews. A few days ago diagnosed with shingles--very, very painful! Thought light therapy might help the healing process.
Good luck with that! I know that shingles is horrible in terms of pain! Stay strong and keep in mind it will not last forever! -- Bart from team Alexfergus
Isn’t the power difference between the two due to the size & led difference of both? Meaning, it looks like 2 joovv solos would be equivalent in size and number of lights to the larger panel on the left...I’m not sure of this, genuinely interested
Can you post info on the spectrometer? To accurately measure the light output you need a setup like a glass coffee table where you have a fixed parallel distance. You also need to zero out the transparent top (glass/plexi) by using a known source. One per wavelength you're measuring.
The spectrometer: Hopoo Color 0HSP-350F - 380-1050nm. Can you explain a bit more about that measurement method or give me a link to it? -- Bart from team Alexfergus
As I understand it, more power isn't necessarily better. Correct dose in terms of power and duration is allegedly critical. Joovv also features something they call "recovery plus", which means that their near infrared light is pulsed at 10 hz. There are some studies that show a benefit of pulsed NIR light over continuous light, mainly in terms of penetration. This is not a feature I've seen in other red light panels, and makes me seriously consider joovv. Joovv explains the benefits of pulsed infrared light like this: "To understand why pulsed light and a cellular “quench period” are important, think about working out. If you do multiple strenuous workouts every single day, you’re more likely to get worn down and suffer an injury because you aren’t giving your body and cells the time they need to recover and regenerate. It’s a similar principle with pulsed light: short intervals between wavelengths gives your cells and tissues the time they need to adapt and respond better to the next interval of NIR light." I'd appreciate your perspective on this.
We will actually soon publish a review on this topic! One of our writers is working on red light therapy and pulsing article. If you want to read more on pulsing right now, the following article is highly recommended: gembared.com/blogs/musings/pulsed-red-light-therapy-what-is-it-good-for-and-where-to-get-it
Finally, it arrived today. The customer service is amazing, they responded to my email right away and even called me--very legit Company. The light has warm NIF plus RED makes it so wonderful and very relaxing. Oh, thanks for the Discount code, worked beautifully 👍🏼 Thank you 😘
How does the BioMax 900 compare to the new Joovv Solo 3.0. The low weight of the Solo 3.0 is very appealing to me since I’m coming off a back injury and I need to use it horizontally on the floor while I lie down - I’ll be moving it around my apartment a lot. But the higher cost is off putting.
Check the horizontal stand with Platinum LED, that you can use while you lay on a couch or on bed. That stand should fix your problem of not being to lay down! -- Bart from team Alexfergus
Hey thanks for your videos and reviews Alex. Just got the Bio 600 combo. Just because it will ship much sooner than the max. Used your discount code which basically cover the shipping. Thanks again. And keep at it. I think RLT will become huge in the health space this decade. So many advancements. Cheers!
I have been enjoying your extensive collection of very interesting videos. I have been using the Light Therapy Insiders Shopping tool and decided to purchase the Biomax 900. The 5% discount code worked fine, but there is a shipping charge of $46. The tool indicates free shipping. I'm located in the USA. I thought you would want to know about the discrepancy. Keep up the great work.
Excellent video Alex...very helpful in helping me decide between BioMax and Joovv. i know the score was BioMax 6 and Joovv 2. Just FYI: if you live in hawaii, the score is Biomax 7 and Joovv 2. The Joovv Quad system w stand would cost $900 to ship to hawaii (no joke!!!)...a Biomax System w 2 900s and 2 450s and stand cost $40 to ship to hawaii (again, no joke). again thx for great informative video.
Hi, does any one know if you can purchase a biomax 900 with afterpay or a payment plan outside of USA (im in Aust)? They offer 'Shop' but only in USA. thx
I just tore my hamstring 2 hours ago. I own a biomax. I was thinking of turning on only the “near infrared” lights and doing it for several hours. Would this be okay? I can’t find any information suggesting that it is bad to do multiple hours of NIR only.
I wouldn't do multiple hours, would only use the parameters for deep tissue treatment, which is like ~10 minutes max, if you're at a medium distance. A higher dosage will almost certainly SLOW healing due to the hormetic effect. -- Bart from team Alexfergus
Alex' beard probably looks like it's another color due to all of the red light! The human brain might create that perception due to the abundance of red light, OR the video quality is not optimal in that regard! :) -- Bart from team Alexfergus
Do the body panels like BioMax help with cognitive and brain issues or is a more targeted device like vielight a better option? Also interested in the target device you use but could find much information on it. Could a panel be used for full body benefits and the target device be used specifically on the head for brain benefits (much more affordable than the vielight device). Thanks so much
I personally think the Vielight is not necessarily better, UNLESS, you specifically want to target your brain only. In the latter case the Vielight is superior. The Target device is from Redlightrising :) -- Bart from team Alexfergus
Very weird, that's maybe temporary? Platinum did deliver to the Netherlands in my case. I do see you're right though, because when I'm at their website currently, they don't have the German option. My recommendation is to check out Red Light Rising, a European-based company we've reviewed in the past as well. Check the following series for more information: th-cam.com/video/_f8ytSdOOC0/w-d-xo.html Unfortunately, we haven't tested the latest advantage series of Red Light Rising yet. -- Bart from team Alexfergus
@@LightTherapyInsiders I contacted them and they said they are unable to ship to Germany due to the unreliability of the customs department and they don't plan to ship to Germany in the near future. What a pity! The panel from Red Light Rising seems to be very big and I want to hang it at the door. Can you recommend another instead? Or do you know when you will be doing a review of the advantage series? Thank you so much!
@@LightTherapyInsiders That‘s annoying and to be honest seems a little unreasonable. Other American companys deliver to Germany, no problem whatsoever. Any chance you can take this up with them?
Hi AnnMarie! That's a great question! The answer is: a BIG "maybe". It's impossible to tell whether any intervention can help you with your condition without first knowing a lot more about you. For instance, I don't know anything about your nutrient status - potassium, calcium, and magnesium deficiencies or excesses can cause spacticity. Also, certian health conditions can alter muscular tone through the nervous system. So, unfortunately, I cannot say anything meaningful here. -- Bart from team Alexfergus
Thanks for the review! On the platinumLED webpage they claim the power output at 6" is 135mw/cm2 but according to your test is 48W/m2 so just 4.8mw/cm2. Why such a big difference?
@@LightTherapyInsiders so are you really saying that 4.8 mw/cm2 (or the equivalent 48W/m2 as stated in your video) is correct here ( Which would be a truly massive discrepancy from the manufacturers claims) or should it actually be 48 mw/cm2? ( seems more likely) Thanks
Alex Fergus Argh that's a shame. You should see if they'll sponsor you anyway. Can you share the details on the spectrometer you used? Make and model would be a start. I've been looking at a few.
Alex, i'm very interested in the BioMax900 BUT i'm also very confused as to how the "numbers" shake out. On the company website video, they do a side by side comparison of the BioMax600 to the Joovv Solo. They did the Irradiance test from 12" away and the Max600 had just over 100 while Joovv had 60. On the other hand, you did a test comparison of theBioMax900 vs Joovv from 6 inches away in this video and your numbers vastly differ and are much lower for a more powerful unit. Do solar power meters vary that much in testing? If the BioMax900 truely has only a top irradiance of 76 at 6 inches away, i'm not interested because those levels are much lower than what their website promises. Please help clarify why your test results are so underwhelmingly different from the video on the Platinum site. Thanks very much!
Your assessment is correct! Solar Power Meters read falsely high by a dramatic amount. We have been trying to re-educate this industry for a long time and are happy that Alex chose to use a better alternative. You can see an in-depth review of solar power meters in some of our videos and blogs. th-cam.com/video/nXnf5RJGLcM/w-d-xo.html gembared.com/blogs/musings/the-solar-power-lie-part-2-the-usual-suspects
Great input by GambaRed. Thanks a lot. I've shared that article a few times and we will discuss measurement methods if we ever decide to do another round of testing. -- Bart from team Alexfergus
Hi Alex! I purchased 2 BioMax 900's (stacked them to get full body) because of this review (used your coupon code too, thanks). Just curious if you are able to tell me what the best distance to stand from the devices would be if my goals are cosmetic issues like stretch mark reduction and increasing collagen production? I contacted the company and they were not able to tell me ideal distance or treatment times for this. You seem very knowledgable on the topic of red light therapy so I thought maybe you could help.
FYI: Been doing 10 min each front, sides, and back (40 min per day) at approximately 32" away from device. Noticing that my bruises and acne marks are actually taking longer to heal now... which is why I'm trying to figure out proper dosing... so any advice you (or anyone else) can offer would be welcome. Thanks.
Yeah, you're overdosing for your cosmetic goals. You really need a low dose for skin treatment, in fact. If you're standing close, at 6-inches, you only need 1 minute max for a 6J dose, which is close to the upper limit for skin treatment, if I remember correctly. So you're 10x'ing the optimal dose! -- Bart from team Alexfergus
For each region, you should be able to calculate the shipping cost on the website by adding the BioMAX 900 to your cart and then going to checkout! Platinum and other companies cannot always take import duties or other taxes into account though, as they don't have any control over that. -- Bart from team Alexfergus
Sauna Space offers a good product that's a little different. Lots of discussion can be found online about the merit of both approaches, with both proponents of the incandescent red bulbs as well as detractors. -- Bart from team Alexfergus
Looks reasonable! I know the owner of GambaRed personally. Have not reviewed that panel yet though. Whether you like the panel or not probably depends on your philosophy of whether higher power outputs are better or not. GambaRed panels tend to have lower power outputs.
Additionally, power outputs can also be measured in different ways, in GambaRed's defense. So GambaRed claims competitors overstate their power outputs through different measurement methodology / interpretation.
Don't know, it's best that you add the product on the website to your cart and then calculate shipping costs. You'll always see the shipping costs before you actually have to pay for the product. The reason it's better to look for these costs yourself is because they can fluctuate, and, it's also impossible for our team to keep track of shipping costs to different loctations on this planet! -- Bart from team Alexfergus
Thank you, for your honest reviews, it is tremendously helpful. I have a question is red light therapy good for stomach cancer pain or kidney problems? My mother is quite ill, and I wonder if red light would help with that.
Not medical advice and for educational purposes only: I don't recommend this. Cancer is one of the few contraindications where the science is not absolutely sure whether it may increase cancer growth. If you do use the panels with cancer, make sure to cover up the spots where the cancer is located. But, the danger is if you don't know whether the cancer has spread yet, so, I cannot affirm neither deny!
In theory, yes, no problem. For me, personally, the sweating has almost zero effect (in fact, an infinitesimally small effect) on the effectiveness of red light therapy. The risk, however, is getting humidity and water into the electronics of the panel, which is why I won't recommend using the panels inside a sauna anytime soon! -- Bart from team Alexfergus
I have a Joovv solo but I’ll be purchasing a platinum system for my office after watching this and reading all your reviews but just wanted to say there are podcasters that do have a discount code for the new 3.0 panels and all the 2.0’s are on clearance right now so my 2.0 solo was only $895 vs the original $1195 and the 3.0 solo is now $1345. Thanks for this comparison, I’m excited to try the platinum and to offer it to all my clients!
Very glad to hear! Also stay tuned for our 2021 review round, where we will compare these companies again. Alex is working on the preliminaries right now, but we're still waiting for some panels to come in. After that, we compare them all! :) -- Bart from team Alexfergus
I read in mitomax or mega (which I think you prefer now) that the pulley system isn't good. Someone asked if the platinum stand might work? Anyway who do you prefer now? Is it mito?
Hey, I haven't used the pulley systems much so can't comment on that from my own experience. As for your other question, it's hard to answer that, I recommend checking this out - th-cam.com/video/31Xu84lf4vY/w-d-xo.html&lc=UgzuyHArAzzkFzdVVdh4AaABAg and I will be doing more videos to help with this topic.
Hey, there's so many panels out there these days it's hard for me to test them all! But I'll see what I can do. I can say though - you can't really go wrong with any panel - they all do a great job of delivering therapeutic red light to the body. It just boils down to what is better suited to your needs/budget etc. I haven't used the LuminiousRed devices, so I can't comment on them, but I have used the Platinum panels for many years and really like them.
The panel is only bought through the original website that's linked in the video description and pinned comment. Hopefully, someday, the company will have departments all over the world! :) -- Bart from team Alexfergus
Check out all my reviews for red light panels, including this comparison series - th-cam.com/video/I0XZz4Hbs2U/w-d-xo.html You will see that my reviews are unbiased. I used to be affiliated with Joovv as well, but then I started using and recommending other panels as I found them to be better value / performance etc. So i joined the affiliate programs from those companies as well. But Joovv have an exclusivity agreement with their affiliate program - if I was affiliated with any other company I couldn't be on their program. I hope this makes sense. But yeah check out my other reviews and it's clear that there are better panels out there than the Joovv. Just look at the EMF levels on the new Joovv, or the sound levels, or the price per LED etc etc.
Hey, have a read of this article it will help - www.alexfergus.com/blog/light-flicker-health But pretty much it means the light dropoff is 29% - which isn't too bad. That article will help explain it all though :)
Hello, Alex, thanks for being such a great resource. My daughter has had severe TBI for the last 9 years from an auto accident. She can't intelligently communicate basically at all. All the studies about the effectiveness of Infrared lights seem to be on mild TBI. I would really appreciate some help with these questions: 1. Which model works best on severe TBI? (under 1000 dollars) 2. How close should the lights be to forehead? 3. Shouldn't she wear eye shades as the power from the lights surely would effect her eyes, right? 4. Some studies show that the infrared actually on the skin is the best way. Is that true for the head as well? 5. My daughter had a massive global bleed....so would the lights have any benefit on the sides of her head and on the back, or is it just on the forehead (and if it is just on the forehead, why)? 6. How long should each exposure last? This information would be of great help. Alex, thank you so much in advance!!!
Good question and I'll cover this in more detail in an upcoming video, but no I'm not going to rush out and change my setups - in fact still have some old 1st Gen Joovv panels from 2018 in one of my red light setups!!!
Not yet, not sure whether Alex will do so either. We will include more panels during this year's 2021 review round than the last time though! But, we cannot review every brand as there are now, on my estimate, 75-100 red light therapy brands on the market.
Mito Red has been reviewed by Alex in his red light review series. You can see the comparisons here: th-cam.com/play/PLL-dtCdqN20Yhm9BE1Uc1X7jxqrJWRHDA.html -- Bart from team Alexfergus
Hard to say, they're both really solid. Though two peices of feedback that may help: 1) The biomax has a 3 year warranty, & 60 day trial period. Joovv also has a 60 day trial peroid but only a 2 year warranty. 2) I've got a couple of Joovv's here and a couple of Biomax's. I have used the biomax's more than the Joovvs and to date I haven't had any issues with the Biomax. However two of my Joovv panels (one a generation 1 panel, the other generation 2 panel) have issues (the gen 1 panel has a bunch of leds that flicker randomly, the gen 2 panel has a bunch of LEDS that just stopped working)
Hey I've just kicked off my 2021 Body panel comparison series - th-cam.com/video/I0XZz4Hbs2U/w-d-xo.html where I compare the BioMax and the Joovv with the MitoRed panel :) Also - you can see my 2021 MitoPro review here - th-cam.com/video/iWoFXon6q-E/w-d-xo.html
@@LightTherapyInsiders Hi Alex, the MitoRed website states their technology includes something called ESPEO, supposedly covering the ENTIRE spectrum of Red and Near Infrared wavelengths. So, theoretically, includes more than 5 wavelengths in the Biomax? Both about the same price.
@@LightTherapyInsiders Spoke with Scott at MitoRed today, and he confirmed that the ESPEO is theoretical for the entire red, and NIR spectrum. They are actually coming out with a new product within a month to six weeks incorporating specific 630nm and 830nm, for a total of four wavelengths. New product will have the ability to be linked into a module on a stand. Thanks again for your informative videos.
Mostly eyes because the brain has to process the on/off switching of the light and therefore experiences more stress. It's more complicated than that though... -- Bart from team Alexfergus
Forgot to mention that Platinum's website says the BioMax900 puts out 135 mw/cm2 from 6 inches which is almost double of what your 76 peak output number came to. Can this unit actually put out the 135 number? Am i confused because you're using a completely different device than what's used on the website? Look forward to your answer ASAP as i really want to order a Red Light device. thanks for all your comparison videos Alex. Really appreciate it.
Different measurement devices have different readings. Consider this great article on the topic: gembared.com/blogs/musings/what-is-the-real-intensity-of-my-led-panel-the-dark-deception-of-red-light-therapy So the device you use to measure does matter. -- Bart from team Alexfergus
BioMAX 900 is enough for full body with me, if I turn around a few times. I'm a 220+ pound male, 175cm tall. Yes, 4 BioMAX 900 panels would be better for me, but, even with 1 panel I do great. -- Bart from team Alexfergus
Flicker is the turning off and on of a light source. Usually flicker is 50 or 300 times a second (Hz), and therefore invisible to the human eye. And yet, flicker DOES have a potential biological impact, both positive or negative. Check this article for more info: www.alexfergus.com/blog/light-flicker-health
Learn more about the Biomax at aferg.co/redlight and be sure to use the discount code you get on the screen to save
Check my epic Facebook group on red light therapy and more: aferg.co/fb-group
And if you want to skip to a specific section, consider:
0:32 Introduction into Joovv and Platinum Biomax
2:30 Metrics for comparison
4:04 Round 1: comparing price and shipping
5:18 Round 2: EMF and ELF levels
8:40 Round 3: power output
11:04 Round 4: flicker
12:30 Round 5: sound
13:58: Round 6: LEDs
14:48 Round 7: Wavelengths
16:45 Round 8: Warranty
18:00 Overall assessment
Wow they cut you for being honest. Glad I'm going with Platinum
Something like that, yes. -- Bart from team Alexfergus
Thomas delauer goes further in his paid sponsorship of Joovv and deletes all suggestions to look up comparison reviews and he deletes any comments mentioning Alex Fergus’ videos
instaBlaster...
@@rykercamden9155 what's that?
@@ormorphe Thomas is a sellout, all of his recent videos are paid promotions
Damn. I saw this after I purchased the solo. My friends got the platinum and they’re getting crazy results.
Buyers remorse
Really sorry to hear this Jacob!! -- Bart from team Alexfergus
what kind of results are they getting
@@danielremy7826 I believe he said crazy results. Now, If you want insane results you might want to check it the Mito Pro line.
Thanks for the informative video!
How about the build quality between the 2 panels, or compared to other panels?
These red light panels are interesting, but expensive so I'd want a high quality panel that will last through a lot of use in my office.
Go to Alexfergus.com and the topic of red light on the top of the screen and you'll find many other reviews!! -- Bart from team Alexfergus
Alex, thank you for your reviews. I've been looking at Joovv Duo or Quad, and Mito Red MEGA. Came across your channel and am impressed with your reviews. Have you looked at the Mito Red MEGA vs the Platinum LED Biomax 900? Interested in your thoughts before I pull the trigger. Thank you in advance.
I just saw your comment below, being that you've addressed these two units. Will probably pull the trigger on the Biomax using your affiliate link.
@@ds-io6bm thanks a lot! Good luck with your purchase! -- Bart from team Alexfergus
Just bought some based on your review, I also applied your discount code thank you very much.
Thanks a LOT! -- Bart from team Alexfergus
Thank you for review. I’d only heard of joovv but then stumbled upon platinum and wanted to make sure it was legit. Looks like it is! I will most likely be purchasing a small device for a foot injury that isn’t healing well. Though I can’t afford biomax will just go with the regular bio series..
Edit: Dang just bought it. A little freaked on the price/not knowing if it’ll work but gotta try something 😂😂😅 So many legit studies on infrared light therapy on sports injuries though. I’m sure it’s gotta help something
Smart move! The smaller units are perfect for your goal (not medical advice though!) -- Bart from team Alexfergus
How did it work for you? I started using for an ankle injury, mostly tendonitis at this point, but it's a long time after the injury and following surgery. I have noticed noticeable results after a few uses, but haven't bought my own panel yet
I was just thinking about buying a panel. Thanks for posting this
No problem 👍
Thank you very much for being honest about your reviews. A few days ago diagnosed with shingles--very, very painful! Thought light therapy might help the healing process.
Good luck with that! I know that shingles is horrible in terms of pain! Stay strong and keep in mind it will not last forever! -- Bart from team Alexfergus
@sunflower - did you find the red light helped your shingles? I hope you’re feeling well now! :)
Okay, I just bought a PL BioMax 900 :) Can't wait, delayed shipping until April 30th, oh well.
Great to hear!
How has the panel been?
Isn’t the power difference between the two due to the size & led difference of both? Meaning, it looks like 2 joovv solos would be equivalent in size and number of lights to the larger panel on the left...I’m not sure of this, genuinely interested
Yes, true, Joovv simply supplies you with less power output per $ due to the LEDs! Correct.
Can you post info on the spectrometer?
To accurately measure the light output you need a setup like a glass coffee table where you have a fixed parallel distance. You also need to zero out the transparent top (glass/plexi) by using a known source. One per wavelength you're measuring.
The spectrometer: Hopoo Color 0HSP-350F - 380-1050nm. Can you explain a bit more about that measurement method or give me a link to it? -- Bart from team Alexfergus
As I understand it, more power isn't necessarily better. Correct dose in terms of power and duration is allegedly critical. Joovv also features something they call "recovery plus", which means that their near infrared light is pulsed at 10 hz. There are some studies that show a benefit of pulsed NIR light over continuous light, mainly in terms of penetration. This is not a feature I've seen in other red light panels, and makes me seriously consider joovv.
Joovv explains the benefits of pulsed infrared light like this:
"To understand why pulsed light and a cellular “quench period” are important, think about working out. If you do multiple strenuous workouts every single day, you’re more likely to get worn down and suffer an injury because you aren’t giving your body and cells the time they need to recover and regenerate. It’s a similar principle with pulsed light: short intervals between wavelengths gives your cells and tissues the time they need to adapt and respond better to the next interval of NIR light."
I'd appreciate your perspective on this.
We will actually soon publish a review on this topic! One of our writers is working on red light therapy and pulsing article. If you want to read more on pulsing right now, the following article is highly recommended:
gembared.com/blogs/musings/pulsed-red-light-therapy-what-is-it-good-for-and-where-to-get-it
Finally, it arrived today. The customer service is amazing, they responded to my email right away and even called me--very legit Company.
The light has warm NIF plus RED makes it so wonderful and very relaxing.
Oh, thanks for the Discount code, worked beautifully 👍🏼
Thank you 😘
Great to hear that it's worked out perfectly! -- Bart from team Alexfergus
How does the BioMax 900 compare to the new Joovv Solo 3.0. The low weight of the Solo 3.0 is very appealing to me since I’m coming off a back injury and I need to use it horizontally on the floor while I lie down - I’ll be moving it around my apartment a lot. But the higher cost is off putting.
Check the horizontal stand with Platinum LED, that you can use while you lay on a couch or on bed. That stand should fix your problem of not being to lay down! -- Bart from team Alexfergus
Hey thanks for your videos and reviews Alex. Just got the Bio 600 combo. Just because it will ship much sooner than the max. Used your discount code which basically cover the shipping. Thanks again. And keep at it. I think RLT will become huge in the health space this decade. So many advancements. Cheers!
Thanks a LOT! Great choice, the double 600! I agree, RLT will be HUGE, and in a sense, it already is! -- Bart from team Alexfergus
I have been enjoying your extensive collection of very interesting videos. I have been using the Light Therapy Insiders Shopping tool and decided to purchase the Biomax 900. The 5% discount code worked fine, but there is a shipping charge of $46. The tool indicates free shipping. I'm located in the USA. I thought you would want to know about the discrepancy. Keep up the great work.
Hey thanks for your support. I will update the tool now that PlatinumLED have increased their shipping prices : )
Excellent video Alex...very helpful in helping me decide between BioMax and Joovv. i know the score was BioMax 6 and Joovv 2. Just FYI: if you live in hawaii, the score is Biomax 7 and Joovv 2.
The Joovv Quad system w stand would cost $900 to ship to hawaii (no joke!!!)...a Biomax System w 2 900s and 2 450s and stand cost $40 to ship to hawaii (again, no joke).
again thx for great informative video.
Oh wow!! Thanks for this update.
Hi, does any one know if you can purchase a biomax 900 with afterpay or a payment plan outside of USA (im in Aust)? They offer 'Shop' but only in USA. thx
Sorry I'm not sure about that. I see on the PlatinumLED website that they use ShopPay and Affirm for financing options. So maybe you can use them?
I just tore my hamstring 2 hours ago. I own a biomax. I was thinking of turning on only the “near infrared” lights and doing it for several hours. Would this be okay? I can’t find any information suggesting that it is bad to do multiple hours of NIR only.
I wouldn't do multiple hours, would only use the parameters for deep tissue treatment, which is like ~10 minutes max, if you're at a medium distance.
A higher dosage will almost certainly SLOW healing due to the hormetic effect.
-- Bart from team Alexfergus
Are my eyes deceiving me or does your beard look half blue during the video? I'm curious if this is the new look 😂
Alex' beard probably looks like it's another color due to all of the red light! The human brain might create that perception due to the abundance of red light, OR the video quality is not optimal in that regard! :) -- Bart from team Alexfergus
I totally see the blue on the bottom half before the red lights were turned on.
Thank you for such a comprehensive review. If Joovv is so unprofessional and petty, I’m happy to NOT give them my business
Thanks! We've got a new review of Joovv coming up soon - their newest panels! Stay tuned. -- Bart from team Alexfergus
Do the body panels like BioMax help with cognitive and brain issues or is a more targeted device like vielight a better option? Also interested in the target device you use but could find much information on it. Could a panel be used for full body benefits and the target device be used specifically on the head for brain benefits (much more affordable than the vielight device). Thanks so much
I personally think the Vielight is not necessarily better, UNLESS, you specifically want to target your brain only. In the latter case the Vielight is superior. The Target device is from Redlightrising :) -- Bart from team Alexfergus
I just found out that Platinum don't deliver to Germany )-: Is there any red light you can compare instead?
Very weird, that's maybe temporary? Platinum did deliver to the Netherlands in my case. I do see you're right though, because when I'm at their website currently, they don't have the German option. My recommendation is to check out Red Light Rising, a European-based company we've reviewed in the past as well.
Check the following series for more information: th-cam.com/video/_f8ytSdOOC0/w-d-xo.html
Unfortunately, we haven't tested the latest advantage series of Red Light Rising yet.
-- Bart from team Alexfergus
@@LightTherapyInsiders I contacted them and they said they are unable to ship to Germany due to the unreliability of the customs department and they don't plan to ship to Germany in the near future. What a pity! The panel from Red Light Rising seems to be very big and I want to hang it at the door. Can you recommend another instead? Or do you know when you will be doing a review of the advantage series? Thank you so much!
@@LightTherapyInsiders That‘s annoying and to be honest seems a little unreasonable. Other American companys deliver to Germany, no problem whatsoever. Any chance you can take this up with them?
Alex- Excellent video. Any thoughts if this can help a condition called "spasticity"?
Hi AnnMarie! That's a great question! The answer is: a BIG "maybe". It's impossible to tell whether any intervention can help you with your condition without first knowing a lot more about you. For instance, I don't know anything about your nutrient status - potassium, calcium, and magnesium deficiencies or excesses can cause spacticity. Also, certian health conditions can alter muscular tone through the nervous system. So, unfortunately, I cannot say anything meaningful here. -- Bart from team Alexfergus
I need this for my skin. I am getting tried of makeup and want to go more bare.
Amazing choices, YES! -- Bart from team Alexfergus
Thanks for the review! On the platinumLED webpage they claim the power output at 6" is 135mw/cm2 but according to your test is 48W/m2 so just 4.8mw/cm2. Why such a big difference?
Different measuring tools, such as a solar meter. Different testing protocols. 3rd party testing, in our case. -- Bart from team Alexfergus
@@LightTherapyInsiders so are you really saying that 4.8 mw/cm2 (or the equivalent 48W/m2 as stated in your video) is correct here ( Which would be a truly massive discrepancy from the manufacturers claims) or should it actually be 48 mw/cm2? ( seems more likely)
Thanks
We just ordered ours. Thank you 🙏
Thanks a LOT! -- Bart from team Alexfergus
Does Biomax make a small one? I'm looking for something to use on my hand for a deep finger injury.
Yes, check out their website.
Yes, they do have a 300 version! -- Bart from team Alexfergus
Discount code for the EMF meter would be nice. International delivery outside the US.
Thanks a lot, I don't have a discount code for that meter right now! :)
Alex Fergus
Argh that's a shame. You should see if they'll sponsor you anyway.
Can you share the details on the spectrometer you used?
Make and model would be a start. I've been looking at a few.
Alex, i'm very interested in the BioMax900 BUT i'm also very confused as to how the "numbers" shake out. On the company website video, they do a side by side comparison of the BioMax600 to the Joovv Solo. They did the Irradiance test from 12" away and the Max600 had just over 100 while Joovv had 60. On the other hand, you did a test comparison of theBioMax900 vs Joovv from 6 inches away in this video and your numbers vastly differ and are much lower for a more powerful unit. Do solar power meters vary that much in testing? If the BioMax900 truely has only a top irradiance of 76 at 6 inches away, i'm not interested because those levels are much lower than what their website promises. Please help clarify why your test results are so underwhelmingly different from the video on the Platinum site. Thanks very much!
Following! 👍🏼
yeah I am interested in this as well!
Your assessment is correct! Solar Power Meters read falsely high by a dramatic amount. We have been trying to re-educate this industry for a long time and are happy that Alex chose to use a better alternative. You can see an in-depth review of solar power meters in some of our videos and blogs.
th-cam.com/video/nXnf5RJGLcM/w-d-xo.html
gembared.com/blogs/musings/the-solar-power-lie-part-2-the-usual-suspects
Great input by GambaRed. Thanks a lot. I've shared that article a few times and we will discuss measurement methods if we ever decide to do another round of testing. -- Bart from team Alexfergus
Hi Alex! I purchased 2 BioMax 900's (stacked them to get full body) because of this review (used your coupon code too, thanks). Just curious if you are able to tell me what the best distance to stand from the devices would be if my goals are cosmetic issues like stretch mark reduction and increasing collagen production? I contacted the company and they were not able to tell me ideal distance or treatment times for this. You seem very knowledgable on the topic of red light therapy so I thought maybe you could help.
FYI: Been doing 10 min each front, sides, and back (40 min per day) at approximately 32" away from device. Noticing that my bruises and acne marks are actually taking longer to heal now... which is why I'm trying to figure out proper dosing... so any advice you (or anyone else) can offer would be welcome. Thanks.
Yeah, you're overdosing for your cosmetic goals. You really need a low dose for skin treatment, in fact. If you're standing close, at 6-inches, you only need 1 minute max for a 6J dose, which is close to the upper limit for skin treatment, if I remember correctly. So you're 10x'ing the optimal dose!
-- Bart from team Alexfergus
@@LightTherapyInsiders Thank you! That helps a lot!
Alex what's the full cost to ship the biomax 900 to ontario canada
For each region, you should be able to calculate the shipping cost on the website by adding the BioMAX 900 to your cart and then going to checkout!
Platinum and other companies cannot always take import duties or other taxes into account though, as they don't have any control over that. -- Bart from team Alexfergus
Joovv customer service are horrendous. Terrible company to deal with
Do these ever go on sale?
So far these panels have not been on sale, as far as I can tell. MAYBE at the end of the year but I'm not 100% sure. -- Bart from team Alexfergus
Do you know anything about the Exesas?
No sorry. I will look into it.
What do you think of something that uses incandescent does have to be this company but something like this? Sauna Space.
Sauna Space offers a good product that's a little different. Lots of discussion can be found online about the merit of both approaches, with both proponents of the incandescent red bulbs as well as detractors. -- Bart from team Alexfergus
Any experience with the GembaRed Reboot Body-Light LED Panel by Herifi Light?
Looks reasonable! I know the owner of GambaRed personally.
Have not reviewed that panel yet though. Whether you like the panel or not probably depends on your philosophy of whether higher power outputs are better or not. GambaRed panels tend to have lower power outputs.
Additionally, power outputs can also be measured in different ways, in GambaRed's defense. So GambaRed claims competitors overstate their power outputs through different measurement methodology / interpretation.
How much will the Biomax cost shipped to South Africa.
Don't know, it's best that you add the product on the website to your cart and then calculate shipping costs. You'll always see the shipping costs before you actually have to pay for the product. The reason it's better to look for these costs yourself is because they can fluctuate, and, it's also impossible for our team to keep track of shipping costs to different loctations on this planet! -- Bart from team Alexfergus
Thank you Bart🙏
Thank you, for your honest reviews, it is tremendously helpful. I have a question is red light therapy good for stomach cancer pain or kidney problems? My mother is quite ill, and I wonder if red light would help with that.
Not medical advice and for educational purposes only:
I don't recommend this. Cancer is one of the few contraindications where the science is not absolutely sure whether it may increase cancer growth.
If you do use the panels with cancer, make sure to cover up the spots where the cancer is located. But, the danger is if you don't know whether the cancer has spread yet, so, I cannot affirm neither deny!
@@LightTherapyInsiders Thanks for answering! That was very helpful information.
Can these panels be used inside an infrared sauna?
In theory, yes, no problem. For me, personally, the sweating has almost zero effect (in fact, an infinitesimally small effect) on the effectiveness of red light therapy. The risk, however, is getting humidity and water into the electronics of the panel, which is why I won't recommend using the panels inside a sauna anytime soon! -- Bart from team Alexfergus
I have a Joovv solo but I’ll be purchasing a platinum system for my office after watching this and reading all your reviews but just wanted to say there are podcasters that do have a discount code for the new 3.0 panels and all the 2.0’s are on clearance right now so my 2.0 solo was only $895 vs the original $1195 and the 3.0 solo is now $1345. Thanks for this comparison, I’m excited to try the platinum and to offer it to all my clients!
Very glad to hear! Also stay tuned for our 2021 review round, where we will compare these companies again. Alex is working on the preliminaries right now, but we're still waiting for some panels to come in. After that, we compare them all! :) -- Bart from team Alexfergus
I read in mitomax or mega (which I think you prefer now) that the pulley system isn't good. Someone asked if the platinum stand might work? Anyway who do you prefer now? Is it mito?
Hey, I haven't used the pulley systems much so can't comment on that from my own experience. As for your other question, it's hard to answer that, I recommend checking this out - th-cam.com/video/31Xu84lf4vY/w-d-xo.html&lc=UgzuyHArAzzkFzdVVdh4AaABAg and I will be doing more videos to help with this topic.
I'm really curious on biomax vs luminousred. Just overall comparison world help. I'm not sure what to purchase
Hey, there's so many panels out there these days it's hard for me to test them all! But I'll see what I can do.
I can say though - you can't really go wrong with any panel - they all do a great job of delivering therapeutic red light to the body.
It just boils down to what is better suited to your needs/budget etc.
I haven't used the LuminiousRed devices, so I can't comment on them, but I have used the Platinum panels for many years and really like them.
Where can i buy a Biomax 900 in Australia?
The panel is only bought through the original website that's linked in the video description and pinned comment. Hopefully, someday, the company will have departments all over the world! :) -- Bart from team Alexfergus
I ordered one and it arrived today. Love it
Lol....i took this video seriously until you advertised your discount code the for the biomax
Check out all my reviews for red light panels, including this comparison series - th-cam.com/video/I0XZz4Hbs2U/w-d-xo.html
You will see that my reviews are unbiased. I used to be affiliated with Joovv as well, but then I started using and recommending other panels as I found them to be better value / performance etc. So i joined the affiliate programs from those companies as well. But Joovv have an exclusivity agreement with their affiliate program - if I was affiliated with any other company I couldn't be on their program.
I hope this makes sense. But yeah check out my other reviews and it's clear that there are better panels out there than the Joovv. Just look at the EMF levels on the new Joovv, or the sound levels, or the price per LED etc etc.
Is flicker of 29% damaging? What exactly does it do?
Hey, have a read of this article it will help - www.alexfergus.com/blog/light-flicker-health
But pretty much it means the light dropoff is 29% - which isn't too bad.
That article will help explain it all though :)
Hello, Alex, thanks for being such a great resource. My daughter has had severe TBI for the last 9 years from an auto accident. She can't intelligently communicate basically at all. All the studies about the effectiveness of Infrared lights seem to be on mild TBI. I would really appreciate some help with these questions:
1. Which model works best on severe TBI? (under 1000 dollars)
2. How close should the lights be to forehead?
3. Shouldn't she wear eye shades as the power from the lights surely would effect her eyes, right?
4. Some studies show that the infrared actually on the skin is the best way. Is that true for the head as well?
5. My daughter had a massive global bleed....so would the lights have any benefit on the sides of her head and on the back, or is it just on the forehead (and if it is just on the forehead, why)?
6. How long should each exposure last?
This information would be of great help. Alex, thank you so much in advance!!!
Would look more at hard chamber oxygen Therapy …
Coq10 helps me in tbi
Red light can help mitochondria tho
Wow! Thank you for the tests I just went with the BioMax 900/450. Can't wait to get it "shipping delays" are 4 to 6 weeks.
No worries :) Enjoy
After watching your 2021 red light review, would you switch from the BioMax 900 to the Mito Red light, just curious?
Good question and I'll cover this in more detail in an upcoming video, but no I'm not going to rush out and change my setups - in fact still have some old 1st Gen Joovv panels from 2018 in one of my red light setups!!!
@@LightTherapyInsiders Thank you for the feedback. I enjoy the content keep up. When will you be doing a sauna update?
Will i get the discount if i buy from South Africa
Yes you should!
Alex ... pretty interesting
Thanks a LOT Melody! -- Bart from team Alexfergus
Have you reviewed Hooga Health yet?
Not yet, not sure whether Alex will do so either. We will include more panels during this year's 2021 review round than the last time though! But, we cannot review every brand as there are now, on my estimate, 75-100 red light therapy brands on the market.
@@LightTherapyInsiders thank you. They’re all over my fb feed and pretty inexpensive by comparison to other brands
I want a BioMax 150 :(
Haha, not available! Why do you want a 150?
Why not Mito Red Light?
Mito Red has been reviewed by Alex in his red light review series. You can see the comparisons here: th-cam.com/play/PLL-dtCdqN20Yhm9BE1Uc1X7jxqrJWRHDA.html
-- Bart from team Alexfergus
Do you have a recent update to these products.
Yes - have a look at this - th-cam.com/video/31Xu84lf4vY/w-d-xo.html
Which one has the best quality build in your opinion?
Hard to say, they're both really solid. Though two peices of feedback that may help: 1) The biomax has a 3 year warranty, & 60 day trial period. Joovv also has a 60 day trial peroid but only a 2 year warranty. 2) I've got a couple of Joovv's here and a couple of Biomax's. I have used the biomax's more than the Joovvs and to date I haven't had any issues with the Biomax. However two of my Joovv panels (one a generation 1 panel, the other generation 2 panel) have issues (the gen 1 panel has a bunch of leds that flicker randomly, the gen 2 panel has a bunch of LEDS that just stopped working)
What about Mito Red?
Hey I've just kicked off my 2021 Body panel comparison series - th-cam.com/video/I0XZz4Hbs2U/w-d-xo.html where I compare the BioMax and the Joovv with the MitoRed panel :)
Also - you can see my 2021 MitoPro review here - th-cam.com/video/iWoFXon6q-E/w-d-xo.html
What about biomax900 vs. mito megA?
BioMAX is better due to additional wavelengths, BUT, Mito Mega is amazing as a budget deal!
@@LightTherapyInsiders Hi Alex, the MitoRed website states their technology includes something called ESPEO, supposedly covering the ENTIRE spectrum of Red and Near Infrared wavelengths. So, theoretically, includes more than 5 wavelengths in the Biomax? Both about the same price.
@@ds-io6bm , looks like Mitored are updating their technology! Will review those panels in the future! :)
@@LightTherapyInsiders Spoke with Scott at MitoRed today, and he confirmed that the ESPEO is theoretical for the entire red, and NIR spectrum. They are actually coming out with a new product within a month to six weeks incorporating specific 630nm and 830nm, for a total of four wavelengths. New product will have the ability to be linked into a module on a stand. Thanks again for your informative videos.
@@ds-io6bm you're welcome!
-- Bart of team Alexfergus.com
Is the flicker a concern for the eyes only ? Or body in general ? Perhaps that is why Platinum include the goggles ?
Mostly eyes because the brain has to process the on/off switching of the light and therefore experiences more stress. It's more complicated than that though... -- Bart from team Alexfergus
Forgot to mention that Platinum's website says the BioMax900 puts out 135 mw/cm2 from 6 inches which is almost double of what your 76 peak output number came to. Can this unit actually put out the 135 number? Am i confused because you're using a completely different device than what's used on the website? Look forward to your answer ASAP as i really want to order a Red Light device. thanks for all your comparison videos Alex. Really appreciate it.
interested in this as well!
Different measurement devices have different readings. Consider this great article on the topic: gembared.com/blogs/musings/what-is-the-real-intensity-of-my-led-panel-the-dark-deception-of-red-light-therapy
So the device you use to measure does matter. -- Bart from team Alexfergus
I've been wanting one of these for years. But the prices are so high. Full body is almost $5000!
BioMAX 900 is enough for full body with me, if I turn around a few times. I'm a 220+ pound male, 175cm tall. Yes, 4 BioMAX 900 panels would be better for me, but, even with 1 panel I do great. -- Bart from team Alexfergus
Any way to measure these wavelengths? Just taking the manufactures word?
Check this video on Alex' measurement of different wavelengths:
th-cam.com/video/HhnpyYxnl8Y/w-d-xo.html
-- Bart of Team Alexfergus.com
What’s flicker?
Flicker is the turning off and on of a light source. Usually flicker is 50 or 300 times a second (Hz), and therefore invisible to the human eye. And yet, flicker DOES have a potential biological impact, both positive or negative.
Check this article for more info: www.alexfergus.com/blog/light-flicker-health