Playing the Kingmaker crpg is what got me to start going down this pathfinder rabbit hole so the river kingdoms will always hold a special place in my heart
I thought the line about how only folks who invoke free speech are fools, the rest respect it and live accordingly was a great turn of phrase. I actually stopped the video to write that one down. I know it goes without saying at this point, but great job. This channel is quickly becoming one of the indispensable gems of Pathfinder resources
You need more recognition for this. I finished Kingmaker earlier this week and was curious on the greater lore of the region. Wasn’t expecting so much!
Great video on the region of Golarion that is dearest and near to my heart: the River Kingdoms or as they are called after my playthrough of Pathfinder Kingmaker for the PC in a bit of personal headcanon and extended lore based on the outcome of my playthrough the Kingdom of Asharniel Lornflame, ruled by the wise King Erasiel Darkar I from the city of Lornflame, I'm actually working on a fanfic detailing the story based on my gameplay. But yeah the River Kingdoms are dear to my heart mainly because they were where my first adventure in the World of Pathfinder happened. I will note there is one VERY ancient civilization that did establish itself in the River Kingdoms before Worldfall that you could have mentioned in the intro but that was only for a breif time historically speaking a kingdom established by Cyclops from the failing Empire of Ghol-Gon but it didn't last long, mainly because of the Lich Vordekai, but for a time they were a decent sized kingdom albiet for only a couple of centuries before Worldfall wrecked everything: granted their domain covered the eastern most end of the River Kingdoms in the Stolen Lands in the lands east Tors of Levenies mountains where Varnhold ends up being founded. But yeah they are a very interesting culture and I'd love to see a video on Ghol-Gon and Cyclopes in Golarian at a future date.
For me, the Stolen Lands are actually the nation of Agrivir, ruled by a wizard-king, his fey consort and his council of advisors from the capital of Stag's End.
@@jackakimbo5718 in our Prime Material plane, it is Thylicia, led by ranger elf King Ayrn, from the City of Stagfell, with his Founder's Council of the dwarf Paladin Grunder, gnome Druid, Miki, human Bard, Tarcil, and Human Sorcerer, Caleb.
@@jackakimbo5718 To each their own. Everyone's playthrough is always different, that's the beauty of this setting you can tell whatever story you want and still have fun.
Once again, you've combined an IMMENSE amount of lore and history into an informative, interesting and engaging video. Great work which I greatly appreciate. Thank you.
Thank you for this video. I'm about to run Kingmaker with my party and had troubles wraping my head around what exactly are The River Kingdoms. This is very helpful, especially since you highlighted the time at which the adventure takes place.
I really like the concept of Uringen. The unstuck portion, especially. Although I have no idea what it would be like to share a town with fey. I assume they would attempt to follow the laws of their hometown as well.
So basically we still do not have canonical ending for kingmaker ? Quite interesting. Also I can not believe you use GIMP for these maps, I thought it would be something more specialized :D But really great video overall, add lots of additional info for us who got into Pathfinder through kingmaker crpg.
I have just watched most of your Regional Deep Dives and I must say that this is some of the best Pathfinder lore content I have seen thus far. Great job!
I love this lore. It’s the little details in history that really fleshes out the setting. My only gripe with this region of Golarion is the names in this area are not consistent to show the believable ethnic lands. You’ve got the influence of Iobarian names, Kellid names and Taldan names.
Hey. Thank you for these videos. I'm looking to expand my knowledge on pathfinder lore and these videos are great "audiobooks" for while I'm out walking. Keep them coming. And again, thank you so much
Excellent content. The River Kingdoms seems absolutely ripe for adventure scenes and a good place for adventurers to carve out their own little base of operations if they want.
It is absolutely one of the most fun parts of the world. Its an excellent intro to the world and there's a good reason the first Owlcat video game was set here.
A great shame this video has so little likes. But then, 1 hour worth of lore is hard for anyone to sit through, but you have my respect for putting this together and so well too. I'm running Kingmaker and thought this would be informative. Turns out it was worlds beyond informative. Thank you so much for your hard work.
This is straight up awesome. I love the Rive Kingdom setting and this taught me so much more. I wonder, even though there is little published about it, if you could do a deep dive on Brevoy? I think it's a really cool concept for a country and would love to see a video like this about that place.
Outsea: "Why is kraken on the ecounter table for this forest?" Uringen: "The Pathfinders least favorite River Kingdom. Because screw those Cartography nerds, am I right?" Thanks for the video.
I was just starting to get into Pathfinder and wanted a lore primer before I started playing Owlcat Games's Kingmaker and then I found your channel. Gave me exactly want I wanted with just enough details to get started. Even better, there are more videos on Pathfinder for when I finally get a 2E game up and running, perfect!
I heard that makers of Pathfinder have given default name of Stolen Lands kingdom to be named Narland and the capital is called Shrikewall, if you take a look at Pathfinder wiki the kingdom is called Narland.
Yeah even the wikipedia entry notes "Other canon sources refer to an unnamed nation's existence in the Stolen Lands but leave details about it intentionally vague," so I wanted to steer clear of assumptions here.
Hi! I recently discovered your channel, and I appreciate all the effort that goes into it. I think your work collecting and pulling together all these different threads is fantastic, and the maps are really helpful. However one thing makes me very uncomfortable. You are quite often reading directly from sourcebooks, without attribution. I would suggest you at least mention these in your description, as the original writers of these texts do deserve recognition. Thanks.
@@jean-baptisteblanchet9856 - Hey check the updated Video Details - let me know if that works for you. I'll be updating previous videos to include a similar credit section.
Good - if possible, could you cite the art you use too? Even if it's just a small text at the bottom. There's some legit good stuff & I'd love to look at the artists' other work
@@grave6983 That's a much, much larger lift - especially on the longer videos, which already take a ton of time to produce. Plus some of the art comes from Pinterest, where correct attribution is difficult to find. In a few cases (like on the Tolkien video) I have credited artists, but in the broad strokes I've decided thats not something I can manage unfortunately. If you want to track down the art, its labrious, but if you're looking for the artist, you can screenshot the image, and 'search by image' in google. You should be able to find the source file. Or ask me about specific assets you like.
the part about the fishpeople war at 10:11 is why pathfinder is so insanely cool. where else are you going to find a world where the writers have thought about what a salt water fish people war in freshwater landscapes would look like and how that would go down and the consuqences of it.
I like your geopolitical maps. Super helpful for understanding. Can you share any purchase links, shared resources or advice for creating them? (like at 42:35)
Its super simple - I use all free software to make them. I use GIMP for windows. Step 1: Grab any official pathfinder region map for the base layer Step 2: Create a layer called 'borders' and draw the borders you need based on lore/history/your game needs. You can do this with a mouse if you're patient but this 1000% easier with a WACOM tablet or similar tool. Step 3: Create a new layer called 'color'; set it at 30% opacity so you can see through it and then fill in the various regions with a fill color so you can see the individual regions you've demarcated Step 4: Add labels - I tend to do the labels in black then merge all the text layers and select-by-color to get all the labels; grow the whole selection by 2-3 pts, feather the selection by 2-3 points and then fill that selection with white. This puts a white outline on all the text so it pops a little more to the eye. I also tend do this in a separate layer so I can lower the opacity if I need to (if the white is too poppy for the color grade of the map)
No, but eventually since I've run a bunch of campaigns with a number of my own player's characters, I could do adventure recaps featuring some details on the characters in my own games - if people would be interested. Not sure yet though. 😅
@@TheMythKeeper I'm personally a fan of adventure recaps, from the perspective of the dm especially. Thanks for all the killer content man! I'm sure whatever route you decide to go it will be done very well.
Great video, probably the most informative about the river kingdoms. I was wondering, wasn't the Kingdom of Pitax annexed by the Kingdom of the Stolen Land after the war ?
It depends on how that AP canonically ends. If you read the last section in the AP ("Continuing the adventure") they suggest about a half-dozen ways this thing could turn out. 2nd edition has yet to confirm the future of Pitax as far as I can tell. My assumption is that Irovetti is dead, imprisoned or exiled, and that someone else is in charge, but it remains a separate kingdom.
My Stolen Lands is kingdom is ready to conquer all nations of the river kingdom, after conquering Pitax, stopping the first world invasion and siding with Surtova against the swordlords the kingdom is ready to invade Mivion
The cool thing about table top adventure is that _everything_ is on the table. Much more so than in a CRPG, the limits are only those the GM sets for you.
very true I was just wondering as the ending implied Nyrissa stayed on golarian, Assuming as no mention that the outcome wasnt considered cannon but would be interesting such a powerful fey would have upon the river kingdoms@@TheMythKeeper
@@fistimusmaximus6576 The 'default' ending is that the PCs defeat Nyrissa, but they do have a whole page of content on 'What if Nyrissa wins?' and about 2-3 pages of content on 'Beyond Kingmaker' which suggests up to 6 different ways to continue the campaign. They leave it pretty open-ended here. I suspect most playgroups will probably call it day and move onto something else once the threat Nyrissa represents is either defeated or dealt with in an alternate way but you could also just keep it going indefinitely. There are always new challenges for a new king to face.
Its hard to find. Page 13 of the River Kingdoms sourcebook. ;-) Its in the section on Daggermark, not on the River Freedoms itself, and even then its given as a relative date - "the year after Athanasius’s death [...], the Outlaw Council met for the first time and officially codified the Six River Freedoms". Then cross-reference the timeline and you find he died in 4618. Yeah I did some research for this!
from the hashtags its Pathfinder tabletop rpg. one of the major regions in Golarion (main world and setting) with alot of the places covered here is also in the Pathfinder: Kingmaker video game and recent 2nd edition update.
I'm playing through Rogue Trader right now, which is fun enough, but I really want Owlcat to keep making Pathfinder games. Fingers crossed for Skull & Shackles ;-)
I'm about to start rogue trader as a 40k fan sure it will be good but was really impressed with both kingmaker and wrath. Like yourself would love for them to do more adventure paths as for people like my self it's a great entrypoint to this world.
Playing the Kingmaker crpg is what got me to start going down this pathfinder rabbit hole so the river kingdoms will always hold a special place in my heart
Love getting posts from folks who have come to my channel through the crpgs!
Same!
In our Kingmaker game, we turned Irovetti into a Gerbil.
🤣🤣🤣
I thought the line about how only folks who invoke free speech are fools, the rest respect it and live accordingly was a great turn of phrase. I actually stopped the video to write that one down. I know it goes without saying at this point, but great job. This channel is quickly becoming one of the indispensable gems of Pathfinder resources
Thanks!
You are continuing to set the gold standard for RPG lore videos, imho. Immensely interesting, informative, and professional content.
You need more recognition for this. I finished Kingmaker earlier this week and was curious on the greater lore of the region. Wasn’t expecting so much!
You're welcome man! Thanks for visiting. 🙂
Great video on the region of Golarion that is dearest and near to my heart: the River Kingdoms or as they are called after my playthrough of Pathfinder Kingmaker for the PC in a bit of personal headcanon and extended lore based on the outcome of my playthrough the Kingdom of Asharniel Lornflame, ruled by the wise King Erasiel Darkar I from the city of Lornflame, I'm actually working on a fanfic detailing the story based on my gameplay. But yeah the River Kingdoms are dear to my heart mainly because they were where my first adventure in the World of Pathfinder happened. I will note there is one VERY ancient civilization that did establish itself in the River Kingdoms before Worldfall that you could have mentioned in the intro but that was only for a breif time historically speaking a kingdom established by Cyclops from the failing Empire of Ghol-Gon but it didn't last long, mainly because of the Lich Vordekai, but for a time they were a decent sized kingdom albiet for only a couple of centuries before Worldfall wrecked everything: granted their domain covered the eastern most end of the River Kingdoms in the Stolen Lands in the lands east Tors of Levenies mountains where Varnhold ends up being founded. But yeah they are a very interesting culture and I'd love to see a video on Ghol-Gon and Cyclopes in Golarian at a future date.
Curse Lornflame for killing my daughter
So many of us have Kingmaker memories
For me, the Stolen Lands are actually the nation of Agrivir, ruled by a wizard-king, his fey consort and his council of advisors from the capital of Stag's End.
@@jackakimbo5718 in our Prime Material plane, it is Thylicia, led by ranger elf King Ayrn, from the City of Stagfell, with his Founder's Council of the dwarf Paladin Grunder, gnome Druid, Miki, human Bard, Tarcil, and Human Sorcerer, Caleb.
@@jackakimbo5718 To each their own. Everyone's playthrough is always different, that's the beauty of this setting you can tell whatever story you want and still have fun.
Once again, you've combined an IMMENSE amount of lore and history into an informative, interesting and engaging video. Great work which I greatly appreciate. Thank you.
This kind of content is incredibly useful and inspiring for my pathfinder group. You're doing incredible work!
These are very good
Agreed
Indeed
Thank you for this video. I'm about to run Kingmaker with my party and had troubles wraping my head around what exactly are The River Kingdoms. This is very helpful, especially since you highlighted the time at which the adventure takes place.
Glad I could help
I really like the concept of Uringen. The unstuck portion, especially. Although I have no idea what it would be like to share a town with fey. I assume they would attempt to follow the laws of their hometown as well.
So basically we still do not have canonical ending for kingmaker ? Quite interesting. Also I can not believe you use GIMP for these maps, I thought it would be something more specialized :D
But really great video overall, add lots of additional info for us who got into Pathfinder through kingmaker crpg.
Yeah, 2E sources have yet to confirm what kind of kingdom now exists in the Stolen Lands
Probably the most impressive video yet. Absolutely great work. Can't wait to see this channel grow because there's no way it doesn't.
I have just watched most of your Regional Deep Dives and I must say that this is some of the best Pathfinder lore content I have seen thus far. Great job!
Thank you sir!
I love this lore. It’s the little details in history that really fleshes out the setting. My only gripe with this region of Golarion is the names in this area are not consistent to show the believable ethnic lands. You’ve got the influence of Iobarian names, Kellid names and Taldan names.
I completely agree with you, names in Pathfinder are very much not linguistically consistent. Its a small detail, but it definitely irks me too.
Another great video!
Hey Kyle! Thank you so much for the Super Thanks! ❤❤❤
@@TheMythKeeper you deserve it my friend! 😁
@@TheMythKeeper also I really like the new Logo design!
@@RollingSoloRPG Thank you so much for noticing! I love it too!
Hey. Thank you for these videos. I'm looking to expand my knowledge on pathfinder lore and these videos are great "audiobooks" for while I'm out walking. Keep them coming. And again, thank you so much
Great video. This filled in some knowledge gaps present in the Pathfinder wiki. And nice use of maps to keep the info grounded and focused.
Thank you so much! Glad it was helpful!
Excellent content. The River Kingdoms seems absolutely ripe for adventure scenes and a good place for adventurers to carve out their own little base of operations if they want.
It is absolutely one of the most fun parts of the world. Its an excellent intro to the world and there's a good reason the first Owlcat video game was set here.
A great shame this video has so little likes. But then, 1 hour worth of lore is hard for anyone to sit through, but you have my respect for putting this together and so well too. I'm running Kingmaker and thought this would be informative. Turns out it was worlds beyond informative. Thank you so much for your hard work.
You're very welcome! And yes, my videos are not really for the casual fan >.> You have to be willing to invest the time!
Nice video
This is straight up awesome. I love the Rive Kingdom setting and this taught me so much more. I wonder, even though there is little published about it, if you could do a deep dive on Brevoy? I think it's a really cool concept for a country and would love to see a video like this about that place.
It’s coming!
Outsea: "Why is kraken on the ecounter table for this forest?"
Uringen: "The Pathfinders least favorite River Kingdom. Because screw those Cartography nerds, am I right?" Thanks for the video.
I was just starting to get into Pathfinder and wanted a lore primer before I started playing Owlcat Games's Kingmaker and then I found your channel. Gave me exactly want I wanted with just enough details to get started. Even better, there are more videos on Pathfinder for when I finally get a 2E game up and running, perfect!
Welcome aboard!
I heard that makers of Pathfinder have given default name of Stolen Lands kingdom to be named Narland and the capital is called Shrikewall, if you take a look at Pathfinder wiki the kingdom is called Narland.
Yeah even the wikipedia entry notes "Other canon sources refer to an unnamed nation's existence in the Stolen Lands but leave details about it intentionally vague," so I wanted to steer clear of assumptions here.
You continue to provide amazing content! great!
Shippo out here living my power fantasies
These are great videos, and very enjoyable to watch. Thanks!
Thanks for the kind words
These regional videos are excellent!
Please do Qadira next!! I love your videos!
Hi! I recently discovered your channel, and I appreciate all the effort that goes into it. I think your work collecting and pulling together all these different threads is fantastic, and the maps are really helpful.
However one thing makes me very uncomfortable. You are quite often reading directly from sourcebooks, without attribution. I would suggest you at least mention these in your description, as the original writers of these texts do deserve recognition. Thanks.
Hey JB - thanks man, I do appreciate that feedback. I'll start including references to the source material in future videos.
@@TheMythKeeper appreciate it, sorry to add to your workload 😅
@@jean-baptisteblanchet9856 - Hey check the updated Video Details - let me know if that works for you. I'll be updating previous videos to include a similar credit section.
Good - if possible, could you cite the art you use too? Even if it's just a small text at the bottom. There's some legit good stuff & I'd love to look at the artists' other work
@@grave6983 That's a much, much larger lift - especially on the longer videos, which already take a ton of time to produce. Plus some of the art comes from Pinterest, where correct attribution is difficult to find. In a few cases (like on the Tolkien video) I have credited artists, but in the broad strokes I've decided thats not something I can manage unfortunately.
If you want to track down the art, its labrious, but if you're looking for the artist, you can screenshot the image, and 'search by image' in google. You should be able to find the source file. Or ask me about specific assets you like.
the part about the fishpeople war at 10:11 is why pathfinder is so insanely cool. where else are you going to find a world where the writers have thought about what a salt water fish people war in freshwater landscapes would look like and how that would go down and the consuqences of it.
Its bananas, right? I also really like Outsea and hope it pops up more in future materials
@@TheMythKeeper
I like your geopolitical maps. Super helpful for understanding. Can you share any purchase links, shared resources or advice for creating them? (like at 42:35)
Its super simple - I use all free software to make them. I use GIMP for windows.
Step 1: Grab any official pathfinder region map for the base layer
Step 2: Create a layer called 'borders' and draw the borders you need based on lore/history/your game needs. You can do this with a mouse if you're patient but this 1000% easier with a WACOM tablet or similar tool.
Step 3: Create a new layer called 'color'; set it at 30% opacity so you can see through it and then fill in the various regions with a fill color so you can see the individual regions you've demarcated
Step 4: Add labels - I tend to do the labels in black then merge all the text layers and select-by-color to get all the labels; grow the whole selection by 2-3 pts, feather the selection by 2-3 points and then fill that selection with white. This puts a white outline on all the text so it pops a little more to the eye. I also tend do this in a separate layer so I can lower the opacity if I need to (if the white is too poppy for the color grade of the map)
novels about the The River Kingdoms: Pathfinder Tales: The Crusader Road and Stalking the Beast(this one it´s a sequel of Plague of Shadows)
This was very informative, i'm building a character for king maker and this will be very useful for backstory
Sounds like the Balkans, fun place..
Great video! Would you ever consider doing a series on the Pathfinder Iconics?
No, but eventually since I've run a bunch of campaigns with a number of my own player's characters, I could do adventure recaps featuring some details on the characters in my own games - if people would be interested. Not sure yet though. 😅
@@TheMythKeeper I'm personally a fan of adventure recaps, from the perspective of the dm especially. Thanks for all the killer content man! I'm sure whatever route you decide to go it will be done very well.
I think I am starting to know more about golarions History than earths.
So I guess well done sir
🤣
Love the content, keep up the great vids
Genial video de lore, como siempre, muchas gracias! 🤘🤘
Starting Kingmaker tonight!
Excellent, hope this was useful to you as you get ready for a great campaign ;-)
This is amazing
Great video, probably the most informative about the river kingdoms. I was wondering, wasn't the Kingdom of Pitax annexed by the Kingdom of the Stolen Land after the war ?
It depends on how that AP canonically ends. If you read the last section in the AP ("Continuing the adventure") they suggest about a half-dozen ways this thing could turn out. 2nd edition has yet to confirm the future of Pitax as far as I can tell. My assumption is that Irovetti is dead, imprisoned or exiled, and that someone else is in charge, but it remains a separate kingdom.
Ah yes. Time for Kingmaker! :D
My Stolen Lands is kingdom is ready to conquer all nations of the river kingdom, after conquering Pitax, stopping the first world invasion and siding with Surtova against the swordlords the kingdom is ready to invade Mivion
Nice! I love a campaign that keeps going after the books end.
@@TheMythKeeper Yeah my character is new Razmiran of the river kingdoms, but unlike Razmiran my character is actually able to conquer stuff.
My group is to play Kingmaker relativly soon, i am to be the lord in the game, The Dark Lord
Was the romance with nissa( the villain) a possible outcome in the table top?
The cool thing about table top adventure is that _everything_ is on the table. Much more so than in a CRPG, the limits are only those the GM sets for you.
very true I was just wondering as the ending implied Nyrissa stayed on golarian, Assuming as no mention that the outcome wasnt considered cannon but would be interesting such a powerful fey would have upon the river kingdoms@@TheMythKeeper
@@fistimusmaximus6576 The 'default' ending is that the PCs defeat Nyrissa, but they do have a whole page of content on 'What if Nyrissa wins?' and about 2-3 pages of content on 'Beyond Kingmaker' which suggests up to 6 different ways to continue the campaign. They leave it pretty open-ended here. I suspect most playgroups will probably call it day and move onto something else once the threat Nyrissa represents is either defeated or dealt with in an alternate way but you could also just keep it going indefinitely. There are always new challenges for a new king to face.
ahh thanks appreciate the info.@@TheMythKeeper
Doesn't one of the cities on the northern borders with Numeria have a leader who's secretly an alien?
Guess you'll have to wait for my Numeria deep dive and find out ;-)
Mythkeeper where did the date for the river freedoms (4619AR) come from? [Whats the source for that]
Its hard to find. Page 13 of the River Kingdoms sourcebook. ;-)
Its in the section on Daggermark, not on the River Freedoms itself, and even then its given as a relative date - "the year after Athanasius’s death [...], the Outlaw Council met for the first time and officially codified the Six River Freedoms". Then cross-reference the timeline and you find he died in 4618. Yeah I did some research for this!
I like Touvette, even if the General-worship is a little Stalin-coded.
Its very Stalin-coded
Oh right on cue, I'm a player in a Kingmaker game that just started session 1 today! Anything in this video that's a spoiler or can I watch it all?
There are Kingmaker spoilers but he says when he starts to talk about it. If you stop watching at 41:15 you should be safe.
Thanks Stephen! That's exactly right!
May I know where did you find the picture of general Porthmos? I was looking for it for the campaign I'm planning.
www.artstation.com/artwork/aRyqLR
@@TheMythKeeper Thanks! Though as I understand, it's not an official artwork, right? Still looks cool and I think it fits well.
liberthane, quite the ironic name tbh
What game does this come from? I don't rember it from D&D.
from the hashtags its Pathfinder tabletop rpg. one of the major regions in Golarion (main world and setting) with alot of the places covered here is also in the Pathfinder: Kingmaker video game and recent 2nd edition update.
Yeah the Pathfinder roleplaying game :-) paizo.com/ Come to the dark side, we've got cookies.
So is the history of a kitchen sink written along its sides?
I need this map… where is it? 😮
Check your comment on the Cheliax video ;-)
Soft spot for river kingdoms after playing kingmaker computer game. Pathfinders take on fey was interesting compared to dnd
I'm playing through Rogue Trader right now, which is fun enough, but I really want Owlcat to keep making Pathfinder games. Fingers crossed for Skull & Shackles ;-)
I'm about to start rogue trader as a 40k fan sure it will be good but was really impressed with both kingmaker and wrath. Like yourself would love for them to do more adventure paths as for people like my self it's a great entrypoint to this world.
not a single Cajun anywhere in the river kingdoms.....
Stolen lands be my home